1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: We're live on the radio from one until four. After 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: four o'clock, you can hear us on the iHeart app 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: in podcast form John and Ken on demand and catch 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: up what you missed. In fact, last hour, you missed 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: a lot. So as soon as we're done here, you 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: could start all over again. You have right now, and 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: it gets confusing. We have someone else that stole a 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: police car. They're finally hemmed him in in Orange County. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Looks like in Fullerton. Remember last week that guy stole 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: a HP Cruiser. Right now, he jumped out and then 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: he died. As you said, there was a splotch on 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: the ground from his brain. Yeah, this person um stole 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: also stole a police car and looks like an Elle 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's deputy's car. And they finally have boxed him 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: in and looks like they to take him into custody. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: But what is it just in the last six day, 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: two guys dealing police cars. I don't know, I don't know. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: It says here it's I'm trying to see uh East 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Commercial Street in northwest Anaheim is the exact spot. Oh, 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: that's where they are. Okay, that's four pegs. It at 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Fullerton's Channel seven in Anaheim. Well they're reasonably close together. Yes, yes, 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: East Commercial Street they have on the screen, but they 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: say Fullerton. But anyway, it looks like they are gonna 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: take them into Cushdy. They but it's also difficult for 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: the cops because they have to consider, well, do we 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: really want to damage one of our own cruisers? Do 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: we really want to smash it? And kind of you know, 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: do the pit river and do all the whole thing. 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: As they were following it, and it's confusing to watch 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: because they're like, oh, it's just a line of police cars. 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Where's the real chase? What's going on here? All right, 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to John Coopal now he's in studio. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: He is, of course, the president of the Howard Jarvis 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Taxpayers Association. Told us yea, he'd be in town for 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: an event and wanted to know if we want him 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: to stop by to talk about all things taxes, California budget, 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: stuff that really matters. That would be your your money 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: you're earning, John, welcome, How are you always good to 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: be here. It's it's been a wild I mean, pandemic happened, 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: and I guess we still haven't fixed California. So we 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: still got a lot of work to do. And wasn't 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: that the fastest disappear in the Act for it for 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: a big budget surplus that you've ever seen? Yeah, you 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: go from ninety eight billion down to negative two five. Well, 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: first of all, the budget figures are always totally fictional. 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: If the state, if the state budget was a bound 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: document for sailing a bookstore, it'd be in the fiction 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: section because it's always fiction. It's always fiction, and you 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: can't you can't estimate revenues. You can try to plan expenditures, 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: but all it takes is some little, you know, recession 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: and it blows up the whole thing. But they were 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: counting on, they were counting on a substantial surplus to 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: help sustain all these promises, all this spending that they promised, 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: all these special interest groups. And now that there's gone, 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: that's gone, you know, with all the high taxes we pay. 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Every time they say that there's a budget deficit, or 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: more accurately, according to the legislative analyst, a budget quote problem, 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: they're going to start talking tax increases, So just wait 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: for that, and that acceleration of people and businesses out 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: of the state of California is only going to get worse, 63 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: all right. Gavin Newsom's running a jihad against the oil industry, 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: and he's convened the legislature. He's convened these commissions, and 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: they want to penalize oil companies whose profits are too big. 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: And I guess they're going to decide what's what's too 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: big now, Kennon, I've talked about this at length, and 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: we're convinced this is a gas tax, because eventually, whatever 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: penalty the oil companies have to pay to Newsom's government, 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: we're going to pay with higher gas prices. Is that 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: the way you see it? Absolutely absolutely, And remember he 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: originally called it an excess profits tax, but then somebody 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: whispered in his ear and said, you know, if you 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: call it attack, it's going to take two thirds vote 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: of each house of the legislature. And there are some 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Democrats who don't want to vote for this thing because 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: they represent areas in the Central Valley. So they said, well, 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. Instead of directly imposing attacks, 79 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: we're going to authorize the California Energy Commission to create 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: a study and then create a new agency. Just what 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: California needs. A new agency with thirty five additional enforcement 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: bureaucrats to digest all the documents financial documents of the 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: oil companies to make sure that they're not unfairly treating us. 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: First of all, the pricing of oil is extremely complicated. 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: We don't need to get into that. But and it's 86 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: a worldwide oil price. It is a worldwide oil price. 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Now California's market is different because we're kind of what 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: they call a gasoline island because we have a special 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: blend and it's hard to import stuff in. But we 90 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: have enough oil here in California that we should not 91 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: be importing it from Venezuela, which is number one dirty 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: or oil number two. It's a maligned state. So all 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: these things, and really all that Gavin is doing, this 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: is all posing and posturing. You know, It's like, if 95 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: you really want to see why gas prices are so high, 96 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: mister governor, look in the mirror. You guys push the 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: highest gas tax in the nation. You divert all that 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: gas tax revenue to things having nothing to do with 99 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: road construction. Or road maintenance, and the stuff that is 100 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: spent on that is wasted. So again, California highest income 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: tax rate in America, thirteen point three percent, highest state 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: sales tax rate in America, highest gas tax, and we're 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: now seeing those demographic figures of people moving out. I 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, California is not yet in a 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: death spiral, but the city of San Francisco is. There 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: was an article written in the San Francisco Chronicle where 107 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: they said things are so bad and people have abandoned 108 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: downtown that if something doesn't happen, And what they mean 109 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: by that is that we hope the state comes in 110 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: and bails us out. State should not bail out the 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: city of San Francisco. They voted for these people over 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: and over and over again. Rampant homelessness, crime, people are 113 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: bailing out, and pretty soon people are gonna even start 114 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: moving out in greater numbers out of the state of 115 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: California in San Francisco. Just like the state has this 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: big reparations idea that's suddenly popped up in the news, 117 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: many billions, billions of dollars. Yeah, oh, come on, it's 118 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: only five million of pop Come on, she I mean 119 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: it's absolutely ridiculous. Well, that's another example of another bureaucracy 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and all this wasted effort for something that's never gonna happen. 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot of African American friends, and they 122 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: are embarrassed by this. They're going, this is the dumbest 123 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. And number one, it's very damaging 124 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: to the African American community because you know, a lot 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: of them just say, just leave me alone, let me 126 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: live my life, let me succeed in America on my 127 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: own merits. And the vast majority of them communicate that message. 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: But these people are on some weird tangent. Let me 129 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: ask you a little more about his oil scheme. Sure, 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: is it legal? I understand you you could pass attacks 131 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: right right on profits beyond a certain point. But I 132 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: have trouble understanding what the criteria is going to be 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that they can level a penalty, because a penalty, by 134 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: its definition, is for something bad that someone did. If 135 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: somebody makes a lot of money, how can you penalize 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: them and call it a penalty and then take their money. 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound constitutional to me. It doesn't. It's probably 138 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: legal because if you look at the way state government 139 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: regulates utilities like electricity and gas. They can set prices 140 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: you like PG and E has to go to the 141 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: PUC and go to ask for a rate increase. So 142 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: that's the direction we're heading on oil, but regrettably it's 143 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: far more complicated than that. But here's some good news. 144 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: You know. Our organization has qualified an initiative for twenty 145 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty four called the Taxpayer Protection Act, and we've already qualified. 146 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: It was very expensive to qualify and it's going to 147 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: be on the battot in twenty twenty four. But it 148 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: has a reachback provision for certain taxes and fees that 149 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: were passed since January first, twenty twenty two. So I 150 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: believe that whatever they do, and we don't know what 151 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna do, it's going to be up to these 152 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: bureaucrats to decide what is an excessive profit. But whatever 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: they do, if we can characterize that as a penalty, 154 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: a tax, or a fee, I think it would be 155 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: subsumed under our Taxpayer Protection Act and would have to 156 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: go to the voters. It would have to go to 157 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: the vote, All right, Hang on, John Coopaul is our guest. 158 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: He's the president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association stopping 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: by today to talk about the California budget and all 160 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: of the tax issues that we have at the highest 161 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: taxes in the country. Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty, 162 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: and Ken on demand from KFI AM six forty. The 164 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: tax avalanche continues. John Coopaul's in town. We're talking to him. 165 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: He's the president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, and 166 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: we just went through what's going to become another gas 167 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: tax soon once Newsom gets his little oversight board to 168 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: get her together filled with these bureaucrats who are going 169 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: to magically determine what is an excess profit by the 170 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: oil companies and then penalize them for the profit and 171 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: take the money. Of course, the oil companies will pass 172 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that cost on to us, so it's a backdoor gas tax, yeah, 173 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: they describe it. I also want to go back to 174 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: the budget, and of course, amazingly we went from a 175 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: huge one hundred billion dollar budget surplus to now projections 176 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: of like a twenty five billion dollar budget deficit. And John, 177 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: it's it's it's this broken record. First of all, They 178 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: got a hell of a lot of money from the 179 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: federal government, didn't they during the pandemic, which helped them 180 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: kind of fill up the coffers. Sure that build back better. 181 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Money really really injected into the national economy. Helped a 182 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of states, including California. But again, unlike other states, 183 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: California promptly misspend it. Let me just give you one example. 184 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Many states used a lot of that federal money to 185 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: pay down their obligations to pay the federal Unemployment Insurance Fund. 186 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: California didn't. California had with a ninety nine billion dollars surplus, 187 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: could easily have paid down the debt it owes to 188 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the federal government in the unemployment insurance which would have 189 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: reduced the premiums to the business community and it makes 190 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: them a little bit healthier. And we signed onto a 191 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: letter with a business community. Hey, this is a good 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: way to use excess money pay down debt. It's what 193 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: just about every other state did, and they didn't. And 194 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: now they don't have the money. So now not only 195 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: do the businesses have to pay their unemployment insurance premium, 196 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: but there's a federal penalty on top of it. Because 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: California has not paid off its debt. This is just 198 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: one example of how California has totally misdirected the federal 199 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: money that they received, money that could have been used 200 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: for some good things, good jobs, but it just went 201 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: right into the pockets of their special interest groups, and 202 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: instead they locked us into more long term spending, such 203 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: as expanding healthcare coverage for illegal immigrants. We know about 204 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that mandatory what is it pre kindergarten? These programmed and 205 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: they never learned because they act like, well, the markets 206 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: are doing well, the markets will keep doing well. We 207 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: saw last year and now this year that chaos on 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the stock market that the wealthy people that hold up 209 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: this state and did pretty well in twenty twenty and 210 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It started to dwindle on. But they 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: never let me put this way. They just ignored. They 212 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: try to pretend it's just going to go on. I mean, 213 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: we saw this in nineteen ninety nine. I know we've 214 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: talked about this story with you famously many times before, 215 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: when we had the dot com boom, sure, and we 216 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: had Great Davis as governor, and they acted like, oh, 217 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: this will go on forever. All of these stock market 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: indexes will continue to grow, the wealthy people continue to 219 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: hand over tax money, and we'll be set for decades 220 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: to come. It's like the same thing is happening again. 221 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: They thought that the last couple of years would continue 222 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: on and suddenly they hit a big lump in the road. Yeah, 223 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: you know. They have The only silver line to some 224 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: of this is that because of a change in the 225 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: state constitution, they have had to dedicate and direct substantial 226 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: money into the Rainy Day Fund. And they said, well, 227 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: that rainy day fund can last two or three years. 228 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: If we hit a recession. That rainy day Fund's going 229 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: to be gone on a few months if things go 230 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: continue on the trajectory that they're on. So do they 231 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: really have a defissary? Is there any day fund going 232 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: to cover it? No, it's it's it's a tool. It 233 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: depends on whether it depends on whether or not they're 234 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna try to keep all those promises that can just mention, 235 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: for example, universal PreK. They may come to the realization, yeah, yeah, 236 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, We're gonna do this, and all 237 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, somebody comes to them, like the state controller, 238 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: and say, you can say you're gonna do it, but 239 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: if we don't have money in the bank. You're not 240 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna do it. So all these promises and this is 241 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: the tragedy. This is just one tragedy. You've promised all 242 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: these benefits to these groups, some of them are marginalized, 243 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: and then after a year you pull the rug out 244 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: from underneath them in programs that never should have been 245 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: adopted in the first place. Because other states aren't doing this, 246 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: we just the mentality of government largesse in California is 247 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: is uncontrollable. And um, you know, can these people do math? Sometimes? 248 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: I wonder about their basic intelligence that sometimes I always 249 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: wonder about their basic intelligence and their basic training, going 250 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: back to elementary school, because a lot of budgeting is 251 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: just addition and subtraction. Why can't they do that well? 252 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Because because their supporters are the same people that put 253 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: all their money in Silicon Valley Bank people to tech people, 254 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: it's like, we're so smarter than everybody else, you know, 255 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're gold. You know, Silicon Valley Bank 256 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: had its own ski shellet, you know, did it really 257 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: it did? It did? And it's like, uh, now I'm 258 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: fortunately the depositors, you know, the stockholders and the bondholders 259 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: are going to take a bath on that, some of 260 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: the but the depositors, particularly for some of those high 261 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: tech companies, why would you put six billion dollars in 262 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: a bank when you're only insured up to two hundred 263 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars without divesting it open up accounts. Well, 264 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: but it turned out it didn't matter because they got 265 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: bailed out anyway. They read one of the depositors had 266 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: a billion dollars cash in the bank. Well, the limits 267 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: to fifty, this guy or his company went to a billion. 268 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: So I guess it's all. It's all facade, it's it's 269 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a fake regulation. They don't really enforce it. They don't. Now, 270 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: there are people who argue that the alternative to helping 271 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: out would have been a lot of bank runs, and 272 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: we don't want that. But here's the question. Do you 273 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: think some community bank in the rural area of Maine 274 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: or Oklahoma or or or Texas you think the federal 275 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: government would come in and bail those people out? Because 276 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: I remember, I just I think it was someone in 277 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the Silicon Valley Bank. One of their HR compliance people 278 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: was in Europe when this whole thing unfolded. Uh, teaching 279 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: a ESG seminar about vote vokeism and said, why don't 280 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: you study accounting before? Why don't you before you study 281 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: this up? They didn't even have like a risk officer 282 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: or something for months, they had the position unfilled to 283 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: figure out their investment for risking. They yeah, yeah, they had, 284 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: they had a risk offer an officer for uh, environmental 285 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: governance and social But it's like, I don't know if 286 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: we if we don't do this stuff, then people might 287 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: be mad if we don't. You know, you're based you know, 288 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you're based up in Sacramento, right, Yeah, we've got less 289 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: You're not only run into a lot of these whack 290 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: job politicians, also a lot of these whack job tech people. Yeah. 291 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine the conversations you've had with 292 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: these people. Do they seem like aliens from another planet? Well, 293 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: you assume that some of these left wing tech people 294 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: talk to the Howard Jervis tagers. There there are a few. Honestly, 295 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: there are a few of the libertarian bent people in 296 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley who do see this. But my experience with 297 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley is this is that they're CFOs, the ones 298 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: who actually do the accounting do a pretty good job, 299 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: and they understand how bad California is. But their government 300 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: affairs people, the people who go to the cocktail parties 301 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: and rub elbows, who actually have the contact with the politicians, 302 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: they do not want to rock the boat. They do 303 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: not want to rock the boat. Their CFOs can go 304 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: to them and say, you know, the state's about ready 305 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: to crash, our company is about ready to crash, and 306 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: they get ignored. So it is an incestuous culture up 307 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: there in Sacramento. Certainly. So if we see I think 308 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: next month there's going to be a budget refise, we 309 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: see this deficit growing even larger, will there be tax 310 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: talk in Sacramento or with the Rainy Day Fund and 311 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: other maneuvers, will they back off that? Do you do 312 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: you have any I ain't cling here hard to project. 313 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be very nervous about doing 314 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: that because they can read those demographic reports as well 315 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: as anybody else. Are the people moving out of state 316 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: and they and they have some so called moderate Dems 317 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: if you want to call Yeah, but they denied that 318 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: was ever going to happen. Yeah, And now we've had 319 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: literally millions moved that wealthy people leaving, or even the 320 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: upper middle class people. They used to say nobody would 321 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: move out, and then they said, well, the rich people 322 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: are never moving out. Now everybody's moving out. Every the wealthy. 323 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: We can afford to lose them because the top forty 324 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: percent of income earners, I'm sorry, the top one percent 325 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: of income earners in California pay forty percent of the 326 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: income tax, and they are moving out because they have alternatives. Miami, Awesome, Texas, 327 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: all kinds of places that they can go zero percent 328 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: income tax, zero percent versus thirteen point three. Can you do? 329 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Can they do the math on that one. That's a 330 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: nice raise you just gave yourself. Haul all right, John, John, 331 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to talk to you. You appreciate it. 332 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: John Coopol, President the Howard Jarvis Tax Based Association. Johnny 333 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere the 334 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 335 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: demand from kf I AM sixty live on the radio 336 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: from one till four. Then we're on the iHeart app 337 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: and a podcast Johnny Ken on demand after four o'clock 338 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: you could hear whatever you missed. A lot has gone 339 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: on today, so far. Yeah, well, we're gonna recap something 340 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: after three o'clock. One of our big stories of the 341 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: day concerning the Board of Supervisors and decarcerating people. These 342 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: dangerous La County Board of Supervisors want to get rid 343 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: of thousands of prisoners who have committed felonies and are 344 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: in jail on bail awaiting their trials, and a lot 345 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: of them are really violent. And hild Us A. Lease 346 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: and Lindsey Horvath are the primary movers of this plan. 347 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: Got linked last night by Bill Bill mulugion on Fox 348 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: and they withdrew the plan today, but this is this 349 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: is where they want to go. So we'll have to 350 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: fight very hard against this because this would really destroy 351 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: the county. Yeah, we'll recap all of that. And as 352 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: far as the inflation compensation cash contest, that'll be at 353 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: three twenty, so not too confusing, But it's every other 354 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: hour the Johnny Ken Show. We'll have a word for 355 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: you at one twenty and then again at three twenty. Well, 356 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: this contest goes on this time around. Well, this is it. 357 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Today was the last snowpack measurement officially for the state 358 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: of California, and it is the deepest in more than 359 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: seventy years. The snowpack is so deep it currently contains 360 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: roughly thirty million acre feet of water, more water than's 361 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: Lake Mead, which is the nation's largest reservoir. There's enough 362 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: water to cover the surface of California to a depth 363 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: of three and a half feet. So, of course, the 364 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: Alsagundo Times headline is California snowpack is among the deepest ever. 365 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: Now get ready for the perilous big melt. If they've 366 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: been pushing that story for weeks now, because they was 367 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: going to get very warm this weekend to see some 368 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: of the nice temperatures. Because their readership stinks, you know, 369 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: and they don't want to go all tabloid, but they 370 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: push it in that direction with certain stories. And one 371 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: of them is the weather stories. Is they go kind 372 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: of tabloid to try to get your your juices falling 373 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: because they're not make they're losing ten millions of dollars. 374 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: The poor, the poor thing. The statewide snowpack today was 375 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven percent of normal for the date. 376 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: That's the deepest on record since the state's network of 377 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: snow sensors was established back in the mid eighties. It 378 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: also is deeper than the previous record set in nineteen 379 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: eighty three and tied with the record from nineteen fifty two. 380 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: The snow water equivalent is now sixty one point one inches. 381 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Time for us to once again remind you this was 382 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be a La Nina Winter's right, ninety one 383 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: percent chance of it being drier according to all the 384 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: weather experts, the same people who bring you all the 385 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: fake global warming climate change scares. In fact, they believe 386 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: that nineteen fifty two, nineteen sixty nine in nineteen eighty 387 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: three were the only other years since the early nineteen 388 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: hundreds with the snowpack rather than two hundred percent of average. 389 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: When we're in April, you know what, I immersed myself 390 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: in the weather statistics for a while all the weekend 391 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: because I was wondering, when was the last time California 392 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: had both a cold and wet winter like this? Yes, 393 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: And what I found is it was slightly colder and 394 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean fractionally in nineteen seventy nine. But when you 395 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: take both categories cold and wet, we haven't had a 396 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: winner like this since nineteen sixty nine. That's the most 397 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: recent comparable year. And yeah, so if you feel like 398 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: you haven't felt this in your life. You were right. 399 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: Not only that it was much cloudier than normal, this 400 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: was one of the cloudiest years in recent times, and 401 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: one of the rainiest in terms of most days it 402 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: that the rain fell. Yes. In fact, the Times did 403 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the story over the weekend about the gloomy winter. Downtown 404 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles gets on average twenty nine rainy days in 405 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: the six months between October and March, but this time around, 406 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: between October twenty twenty two and March of this year, 407 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: there were forty six days yeah when it rained. Yeah. 408 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: I think there's only been four occasions when La has 409 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: had more rainy days between October and March. The one 410 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: was nineteen forty and forty one where it rained on 411 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: fifty one days during that period. So it was lots 412 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: of rainy days, lots of rain, lots of cloud cover, 413 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: and lots of cold. Do you think that throughout is over? 414 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: But it's been cold too, that's been underreported. It's been rainy, 415 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: but it was cold this winter. Right. It seems like 416 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: every day I got up it was somewhere in the 417 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: forties And I'm like, that's that seems unusual to me. Yes, 418 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: it was it's it's the coldest winter since sixty nine 419 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: now and the one of the coldest wettests I could 420 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: find on the list because the records go back to 421 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: the eighteen seventies. Was like nineteen forty one. That's how 422 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: far back you'd have to go to get another one. 423 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what's the time said here with the 424 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: rain days, it was nineteen forty one. Yeah, what are 425 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: you at? An exciting weekend? Then? So weather spent all well, 426 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: you know why, Ever, since I was a kid, I 427 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: have always noticed that media hypes storms and cold waves 428 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: and heat waves and whatever. They just hype all this stuff. 429 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: And I when I was a little kid, I would 430 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: I ordered an almanac from the local newspaper, right, and 431 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: they had like a hundred years worth of weather records. 432 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: And I started looking, and I saw these patterns, and 433 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: I saw these records that you know, heat records, cold records, 434 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, even in the eighteen hundreds, and that hadn't 435 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: been broken. And I thought, well, so this isn't unusual. 436 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it's unusual for this day, or maybe this is 437 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: above normal or below normal, but this happens frequently in 438 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: waves sometimes and and so and still to this day. 439 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot more money riding on hype. Right. 440 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: They charge a lot more for commercials on television. The 441 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: newspaper industry is much more desperate than it used to be. 442 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: I sometimes I go through old newspapers and what I 443 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: noticed is years ago, you know, you know what the 444 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: weather would be in a newspaper. It'd be one little 445 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: paragraph at them. But by the way, this is before 446 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: the internet. Right. If you go back to papers like 447 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, and it would be one small 448 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: paragraph at the very bottom of the page, and it 449 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: would say today's weather, rain likely later clearing tonight and 450 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: sunshine tomorrow, and that'd be the whole forecast. And now 451 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: you turn on the television. Look what you see for 452 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: about eight minutes. Oh yeah, they'll give you every little 453 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: detailed temperature highs and lows and wind gusts and yeah, 454 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: and it's all hype and warnings and atmospheric rivers and 455 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: bomb cyclones. That's because the people that program these news 456 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: stations have done these studies that show that people want 457 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: more weather detail than they want to be scared. They 458 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: want to hear something really crazy it's going to happen. 459 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I understand everybody, but a percentage of folks I understand 460 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: why they do it. But what I have found in 461 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: going through the records, like all my life, is that 462 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: there's unusual days or occasionally an unusual season, but most 463 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: of this is just the normal swirl of the weather. 464 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: That's all. This is what happened. Yes, every twenty years, 465 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: every forty years, you might have a heavy rainfall, you 466 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: might have a drought streak or whatever, but it's all 467 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: comes and goes and comes and goes, and there's no 468 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: reason for hysteria. And I realized all the hysteria is 469 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: solely to grab viewers, to get hits and to make money. 470 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean the dynamics of the of the 471 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: weather has changed all that much. This l Signdo Times 472 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: article on the cold, wet winter we had, they talked 473 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: to a guy who moved here from Seattle a couple 474 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: of years ago, and he says, well, the difference is, 475 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, obviously comes from a place where they had 476 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of rain, but LA seems to break down 477 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: during the downpours. It's just there's too much flooding and 478 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: all the potholes. Everything just kind of help. Yeah, because 479 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: we're not used to this. Then there's no sort of 480 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: infrastructure in place to take care of this immediately when 481 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: it happens. If you were in a place like Seattle, 482 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: where it rains so much mostly every winter, they're always 483 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: ready to go to fix things. If they don't. They 484 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: have not built good infrastructure for many decades. So now 485 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: it's crumbling the way Rome crumbled, and this will crumble too, 486 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: And it's happening right in front of our eyes, just 487 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: just chunk by chunk, pothole by pothole. Things you're deteriorating, 488 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: and there's absolutely no desire to spend the money on 489 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: fixing it, so you'll continue to watch la collapse and 490 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: rot and eventually fall into the sea, and then they're sad. 491 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: Seasonal effective disorder. Some people more than most winters were 492 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: affected by it because they were enough sunny days in 493 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: southern California. It can lead to a form of depression 494 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: related to a change in seasons. As I like to 495 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: tell famously, when I first met John cold Belt years ago, 496 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: he had this affliction and he could get very depressed 497 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: during the dark February days. Oh I felt I felt 498 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of down last few months over this. Yeah, I could. 499 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I could tell because there's there's nothing to look forward to. 500 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: Every day. I wake up and it's thirty seven degrees 501 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: and it's raining, and it's going to rain the next 502 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: day and the next day, and it just takes away 503 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: what you look forward to do. Right, the weekend stuff, right, Yeah, 504 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: because I like being outside. I spent the whole weekend 505 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: outside on Saturday and Sunday because it was the first 506 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: time in a while, you know, that the weather was 507 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: warm enough and it was dry. I'd rather live outdoors. Well, 508 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be getting some I think Ken was 509 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: mentioning this some low eighties this weekend. Yeah, Easter is 510 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: going to be quite warm. It could hit eighties. So 511 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: that's great and danced on go do all right, I 512 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: will all right when we come back. We think you'll 513 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: enjoy this story. It's a allegedly America's most inbred family. Um, 514 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: they're from Wow, this is a real shock West Virginia. 515 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken kf I M six forty. We're live everywhere 516 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken 517 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: on demand from kf I AM sixty. Yeah, we have 518 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: a lot to get to. The three o'clock hour, the 519 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: latest on Trump. He is in New York City. He 520 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: has arrived in Manhattan, he waved to the crowd. He's 521 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: preparing for his appearance tomorrow in court on this grand 522 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: jury indictment. Also, he does not want cameras in the courtroom. 523 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: We'll give you more as New York City prepares overwhelmingly 524 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: security wise for what may happen tomorrow. Trump wants to 525 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: put on a bit of a show, but maybe not 526 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: too much. But we'll explain what his plan is and 527 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: what the court plan is coming up in the three 528 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. Now, we're going to talk about what is 529 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: allegedly the most inbred family in the United States. There 530 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: is a man, a producer by the name of Mark 531 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: A Lata who's got a YouTube channel. There is a 532 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: YouTube channel called Soft White Underbelly. He is releasing a 533 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: short twelve minute film on this extended family in a 534 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: place called Odd, West Virginia. That really is about eight 535 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: hundred people. That really is the name of the village Odd. 536 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Seventy five miles south of Charleston, West Virginia, is a 537 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: place called Odd, and the people he profiles are the 538 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: extended family known as the Whittakers. The three siblings parents 539 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: were first cousins twice because they share both sets of grandparents. 540 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: So you're already confused, so am I. But that's what 541 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: inbreeding does. And you have to see the photos of 542 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: the Whittakers. That first photo is really chilling. It appears 543 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: to be two older men with the younger man in between. 544 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: But I mean the one in between. He's literally drooling 545 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: and his teeth are like bloody looking. Yes, his eyes 546 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: are all misshapen. They had a huge protruding forehead. They 547 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: have bizarre expressions on their face, and their faces are 548 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: just out of alignment. I don't know how to describe it. 549 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: It's just there's something wrong, and it's like everything's wrong. 550 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: The foreheads are too big, the eyes are pointing in 551 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: different directions. Their smiles are really creepy. If you have 552 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: a chance to look at this, either the YouTube channel 553 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: or the news stories that the Daily Mail the New 554 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: York Post is just posted a version late to first 555 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: went there in two thousand and four, he took pictures 556 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: of them. He decided to return in twenty twenty to 557 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: get to know them better, but he said when he 558 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: was with the family was out of control. There's these 559 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: people walking around. Their eyes are going in different directions 560 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: and they're barking at us. Yeah. Yeah, human beings walking 561 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: around barking. This one guy, you'd look him in the 562 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: eye or say something or say anything, and he would 563 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: just scream and go running away and his pants would 564 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: fall down around his ankles. The family didn't get a 565 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: surgeon interest as he took first took the photographs. Now 566 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: did you think of Canton, Pennsylvania when you saw them? 567 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I guess so. Yeah, the first town, Kennon I worked, 568 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: and this is worse. They can't There were signs of inviting. Yeah, 569 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: but I saw some of this and in the town 570 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: down the road to Wanda, Yes, to Wanda. Yeah. What 571 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: was the name of the family. The Vanderpools, the Vols, 572 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: the Vanderpools. They all known because there was a lot 573 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: of them in the phone books. Yes, And they had 574 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: huge foreheads, like three story foreheads, three times the sizes 575 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: of a normal forehead. And if you looked in the 576 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: local paper, the police blotter for all the weekend crimes, 577 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: it was all Vanderpools. They spent the whole weekend getting 578 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: drunk each other with bottles stabbed each other breaking into 579 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: each other's homes fishing. They live in very poor conditions. 580 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: I guess what do they just get government money? You suppose? 581 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Or do they Yeah? I mean they're probably all disabled. 582 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but the videos show him asking about their 583 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: education and their schooling. Only one appeared to have graduated 584 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: high school. His name is Tibby. Lorraine and Ray appeared 585 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: to Ray appeared to not be able to talk, and 586 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: only grunt. Jimmy's the one who's drawing on himself. He 587 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: graduated high school. He's the one who made it throat. 588 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't think that space has scared me. 589 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a horror movie. The family doesn't 590 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: really seem to know that they have genetic issues due 591 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: to inbreeding. Some of them think it's from long history 592 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: of coal mining. Well none of them went to school. 593 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think any of them understand the 594 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: genetic science. Oh look, he's got to go fund me 595 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: for them. He's raised forty six thousand dollars to try 596 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: to improve their living conditions and provide home improvements, right 597 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to be Yeah, like a freak 598 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: circus freaks stuff about this. That's what I thought it too. 599 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: These look like what I remember would show up as 600 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: circus freaks the sideshow. You go into the side show room. 601 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: You ever go into one of those rooms. They had 602 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: one in Venice, like bearded ladies stuff or something. Yeah, 603 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: sword swallowers and people that can bend in all different directions. 604 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: People just had unusual bodies and faces. The village of 605 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Odd has about eight hundred residents. In West Virginia, of course, 606 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: is one of the poorest states in the nation. Seventeen 607 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: percent its residents live in poverty. This is what happens though, 608 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: to small towns. People start inbreeding with each other over 609 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: and over again, and they can't get out of the 610 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: town because where's this crowd going to go to school? 611 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: And if by chance you're halfway intelligent, you're getting the 612 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: first bus out of there. I mean, can you imagine 613 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: growing up in Odd? Would you stay there past the 614 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: age of fourteen? I'd run away from home. Doesn't seem 615 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: real that it's called Odd. It seems like that was purpose. 616 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: After people realize what was going on, we need to 617 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: rename this town. It's pretty odd here. I mean, if 618 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: you got family members and they're barking at you, okay, hi, 619 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: when we return and around with their pants down down 620 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: by their ankles. It looks like they tried to pull 621 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: a fast one. Quietly. Over the weekend, a couple of 622 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: La County supervisors introduced a motion to pretty much empty 623 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: all the county jails, reduced bail to zero, make sure 624 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: that nobody ends up in any county jail. They did 625 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: withdraw the motion, but we'll give you the update that 626 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: more coming up. Johnny Ken, caf i AM six forty 627 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the i Heart Radio app. Deborah Mark 628 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: live in the twenty four our Cafe newsroom. Hey, you've 629 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: been listening to the John and Ken Show. You can 630 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: always hear us live on caf i AM sixty one 631 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of 632 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: course anytime on demand on the iHeart Radio app.