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Speaker 1: We'll explain shortly elsewhere in the AFC North the Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. It's time to make that step

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Speaker 1: down and Bryce Young he improved within the season last year.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to stack on that improvement from twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty twenty five. In his second year

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Speaker 1: here with you today. We've got Greg Rosenthal joining the

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Speaker 1: the next hour. I mentioned Aaron Rodgers, he was on

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Speaker 1: you know what, Rogers, is this the last year you

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this is it. You know. That's why

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Speaker 2: So you know, this was really about finishing with a

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Speaker 2: like it's been a.

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Speaker 3: Long, long run and I've enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: And what better place to finish than in one of

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Speaker 2: I don't want the attention. I know that's a narrative

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Speaker 2: out there when this is all done. It's kaiser So said,

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Speaker 2: why it's so strange what's going on right now with

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Speaker 1: And like that, he's gone, well not yet, not like

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Speaker 1: the movies anyway, moving on, Yes, before he is gone,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Brian Baldinger. Rosenthal, I am going to

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Speaker 1: start with you, my friend. Look, it wasn't a great

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Speaker 4: The last season of Aaron Rodgers, I absolutely will and

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Speaker 5: But it's not surprising to me that he says this

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Speaker 5: He says it would be probably, and I would have

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Speaker 1: Right now, these Steelers do have a lot of draft

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Speaker 1: one day we'll be talking about Drake May the way

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Speaker 1: This is Josh Allen to a Sports Illustrated saying, Drake

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Josh Allen looks at Drake May and

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Speaker 6: We were told this guy.

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Speaker 5: and what I saw involved You can.

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Speaker 5: I saw a guy who made a mistake and then

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Speaker 5: A lot of it was the plays that he didn't make,

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Speaker 7: I tell you, Greg, I thought he showed a lot

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Speaker 7: I expect Drake May to make a big jump this year.

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Speaker 3: It's going to start up front, and it's gonna start

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Speaker 7: And look, Josh Daniels, Josh mcgaiels has done a great

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Speaker 7: But it won't surprise me to see a big jump

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Speaker 1: That last line from Josh Allen that I read, where

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen clearly is seeing that from Drake May now

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Speaker 1: that need to see him elevate his play with some

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter not going anywhere. He's going to be there

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Bengals and Shamar Stewart are still at an impass. Look.

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Speaker 6: Last year, the Bengals on their first round pick in

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Speaker 1: Great breakdown from Cam basically Shamar Stewart and his agent

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Speaker 3: Here's a shotguned snap four man rush yunk with time

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Speaker 8: The figs of food young backpedals, rolling to his right.

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Speaker 1: Young, it'll make What is that look on Bryce Young's

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Speaker 1: Cam Wolf. So let's start with you, Sarah, on Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young's development. You see plenty of him with as much

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Speaker 9: Well, the thing about Bryce Young, he's entering year three,

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Speaker 1: The first time he's going back.

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Speaker 3: Into the same system.

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Speaker 9: and we saw that growth unfold late last year after

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Speaker 9: He wants the offense to look like Bryce Young, and

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Speaker 9: I talked to his offensive lineman Robert Hunt recently, and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Sarah, a much more confident Bryce Young. He's been

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Speaker 1: Yeap, hopefully from wire to wire. If you're the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Let's go defense here. You're like Travis Hunter. You're two

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Speaker 9: Well, Mike, for all the spotlight on Bryce Young, we

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Speaker 9: It was really the Panthers defense that struggled. If you

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Speaker 9: But help is on the way, Mike, in the form

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Speaker 1: Mike great, great stuff. You see that big man move

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Speaker 3: They do they do. Mike and Sarah hit on a

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Speaker 7: And really they don't have any excuses because they've upgraded

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Speaker 6: Mike is roasting.

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Speaker 9: I'll take the air conditioner, but you do you there.

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Speaker 7: Keeping keep hydrating, you know, to fluids it and keep

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: It's probably not enough. Yeah, but thank you. Very much, Larah.

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Speaker 1: raven Derek Henry. Here comes another one, Lamar Jackson. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking Ravens after the break. One of the

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Speaker 1: teams is easy to talk about this time of year

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Speaker 1: because you could say, hey, they're gonna be good, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be competitive, because they always are. But can they

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Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl? Can they get to the

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Speaker 1: Promised Land? Talking that with Greg Rose and Don Cameron

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Speaker 1: Wolf coming up next, Kenny Pickett getting some work in

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Speaker 1: with Jerry Judy. And if I told you that a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, when Pickett got drafted, you'd say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Judy got traded to the Steelers. No, you mean Pickets

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Speaker 1: in Denver. Wrong again, both guys together in Cleveland where

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's trying to win a starting job, and another

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Speaker 1: guy that did a new place in Cleveland. The Aantae

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Speaker 1: Johnson thinks that Pickets got the inside track.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to put you on the spot, but

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Speaker 6: who do you think who you think is gonna be

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Speaker 6: the start?

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Speaker 1: I know we talked about it off camera, but.

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Speaker 10: I mean, then they don't roll with Kenny for right now.

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Speaker 1: Just so you just had Rookie meunic camp right doing

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Speaker 1: with them and did all that stuff.

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Speaker 10: Who looks saying Kenny going on like right now with

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Speaker 10: the ones, and then Joe would come in. I think

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Speaker 10: they're probably gonna roll with him, just like to see,

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Speaker 10: like just coming off the season he was with Philly

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Speaker 10: right right and having the Super Bowl, so I'll really see.

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Speaker 10: I think they don't stick with him through pre season

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Speaker 10: and then you know they can live with with Joe

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Speaker 10: come with brands at the table.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Sports and suits two things I liked, just

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Speaker 1: not in the dead of summer. Here are the Browns

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Speaker 1: starting court. I mean, I like sports in the summer,

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Speaker 1: but suit it's a little hot. Twenty twenty one, the

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Speaker 1: Browns starting. We can't go back any further. If we did,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't fit on the screen. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: how it is when it comes to the Browns and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that jersey with all the names on it,

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Speaker 1: got all these names, including a really long one and

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Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson. So who's it going to be in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? Who's going to be beyond that? Let's

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Speaker 1: just focus on this upcoming season. Let's start with Cameron

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Speaker 1: Wolf alongside Greg russdal Camp. Start with you on Deontay

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Speaker 1: thinking that Kenny Pickett's got the inside track past some

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Speaker 1: of these veterans. You think he's right on or now.

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Speaker 6: I think it's interesting that he's given that perspective as

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Speaker 6: a receiver on the team. From what I understand, how

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Speaker 6: to handicap Joe Flacco as the favorite going into training camp,

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Speaker 6: but Kenny Pickett's going to have a chance to steal

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Speaker 6: that job from him. I think it's more likely that

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Speaker 6: it's Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco than Shador Sanders or

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Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel. And I spent Draft week in Brea with

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Speaker 6: the Browns, and I talked to Kevin Stefanski on draft day.

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Speaker 6: I had a good idea they weren't taking a first

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Speaker 6: round quarterback. Said, are you comfortable with Joe Flats or

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Speaker 6: Knnie pick At, a shardened quarterback? Without hesitation, he said yes,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like why. He's like, Joe has an immense

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Speaker 6: knowledge of my scheme. Remember twenty twenty three came off

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Speaker 6: the couch four and one played really well. We know

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Speaker 6: that we're going to have a very high forward Joe

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Speaker 6: and he talked about Kenny Pickett and his talent and

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Speaker 6: feeling like they can develop more out of him as well.

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Speaker 6: We've seen in the past Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold sort

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Speaker 6: of get career resurgence, and there's a belief they can

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Speaker 6: do some of that with Kevin Stefanski. But the reality

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Speaker 6: is this Browns team not a high chance people think

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Speaker 6: of making the playoffs. There's a good chance we probably

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Speaker 6: see multiple quarterbacks start throughout the season, and even if

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Speaker 6: it is one of the vets earlier, maybe we still

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Speaker 6: see Shador and Dylan Gabriel later in the season as

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Speaker 6: his team continues to build and develop. I know one

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Speaker 6: thing is clear. There's four quarterbacks on the roster. There

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Speaker 6: may be a question at the end of August, is

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Speaker 6: there one out? Is one getting traded? From what I understand,

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Speaker 6: not planning to move on on either rookie, So maybe

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Speaker 6: whichever vet lose the job, maybe on the trading block.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, I think Deontay Johnson is right that the Browns

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Speaker 5: want Kenny Pickett to win the job, But I think

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco will win the job. And my main reason

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Speaker 5: is just watching how Kenny Pickett has handled his last

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Speaker 5: two opportunities. The film does not lie, and you look

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Speaker 5: at two organizations in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia who both need quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: who essentially gave up on Kenny Pickett. So we know

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Speaker 5: what Joe Flacco can do. He can play at a

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Speaker 5: credible level. He went four and one with the Browns before.

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Speaker 5: When the Steelers traded Kenny Pickett just a few years ago,

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Speaker 5: they moved all they had to do was move down

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Speaker 5: from the third to the fourth round in order to

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Speaker 5: do so. Last year, the Eagles essentially gave Kenny Pickett away.

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Speaker 5: So if we're going to spend this whole offseason saying

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Speaker 5: Howie Roseman is the best general manager in the game,

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Speaker 5: and they could certainly use a good backup at a

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Speaker 5: low price, and he basically decided to give Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 5: away because Tanner McKee is a better quarterback than him.

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Speaker 5: And ultimately, I think Joe Flacco is going to be

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Speaker 5: a better quarterback than him and should her. Sanders will

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Speaker 5: wind up being a backup or third string quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Flacco late in the season with Cleveland looking good,

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Speaker 1: not so much in India there. I think that Indy

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Speaker 1: season just didn't work for a variety reasons. I expect

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Speaker 1: to see a better Joe Flacco sort of what we

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Speaker 1: saw in twenty twenty three this upcoming season, which should

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Speaker 1: be able to win him the job. Elsewhere in the

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Speaker 1: AFC North, you've got Lamar Jackson making the play for

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Speaker 1: Jay or Alexander to become a Raven And that is

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened when your franchise quarterback speaks a lot

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Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, listen, here's another veteran in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey talking about what the Ravens defense could be

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Speaker 1: with Jaiyir.

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Speaker 11: I feel that when I first came to the Ravens,

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Speaker 11: it was all about the Ravens defense. It was all

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Speaker 11: about the Ravens defense. It was all about the Ravens defense,

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Speaker 11: and I feel like I've let that standard be in here.

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Speaker 11: I think the longest defensive guy, I've let that standard

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Speaker 11: kind of slip and that's something that I want to

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Speaker 11: get back. I want it. Obviously, we love Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 11: it's a great, great player, but I want the Ravens

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Speaker 11: identity to be defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smart, especially when you got a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: like Zach Orr so cam. How good can this Ravens

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Speaker 1: defense with with JayR Alexander added be?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Ravens can be special. They can be one

570
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Speaker 6: of those elite defenses we talk about again, But a

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Speaker 6: lot of it's going to depend on help. Jay R

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Speaker 6: Alexander has been a number one cornerback for most of

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Speaker 6: his career, only played fourteen combined games the last two years.

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Speaker 6: That's why they got them on a little bit of

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Speaker 6: a discount. But I love what it can do for

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Speaker 6: Zach ore in this defense. Look last year, from week

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Speaker 6: eleven to week eighteen, the Ravens had the number one

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Speaker 6: defensive football and yards and points after an abysmal starts

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Speaker 6: the season, and a big reason why was they just

580
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Speaker 6: didn't have that depth earlier in the year, so Kyle

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Speaker 6: Hamilton was spread too thin. Zach Owor removed Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 6: free safety. He locked things down. This year, They're going

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Speaker 6: to have a little bit more creativity because Malachai Starks,

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Speaker 6: who they drafted in the first round, can play free safety.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Hamilton go about being that chess piece again. You

586
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Speaker 6: got Jiyure, Alexander and Nate Wiggins on the inside, allowing

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Speaker 6: Marlon Humphrey to play in the slot where he played

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Speaker 6: his best last year. I think this Ravens team can

589
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Speaker 6: be really special because of these improvements.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that secondary. I love that Marlon Humphrey

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Speaker 5: is a good quote. I love the versatility they have

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Speaker 5: up front. But let's be real, this team is about

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. They are hoping on the Ravens defense to

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Speaker 5: just be the supporting actors to one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks of the last twenty five years. I'm doing a

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Speaker 5: podcast series, the best twenty five players the last twenty

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Speaker 5: five years.

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Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Is on it.

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Speaker 5: Over the last two seasons, he hasn't just been the

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Speaker 5: best quarterback on balance in the league. They have been

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Speaker 5: the best offense the way that Derek Henry helped to

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Speaker 5: unlock that running game and what they have in terms

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Speaker 5: of the continuity and the depth of weapons that Lamar

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Speaker 5: Jackson has. They are by far the favorite to be

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Speaker 5: the best offense in the league. Defense is up and down,

607
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Speaker 5: it comes and goes offenses forever. Offense wins championships and

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Speaker 5: I don't care how good they are on defense. The

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Speaker 5: identity is going to be this man number eight, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you Cameron Wolf. Appreciate you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to hearing from you as The Insiders rolls

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Speaker 1: on later this week. Greg, you ain't going anywhere. You

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Speaker 1: want to know why, because you just teased it your

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Speaker 1: top twenty five players in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be talking about that when the Insiders

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Speaker 1: comes back with you and Baldi.

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Speaker 6: Rosted new Sammarama Avenue new Today.

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Speaker 1: They're in downtown Mobile, Yes, a fresh new look the

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Speaker 1: to our first trip down to Mobile for the Panini

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Coming up in a couple of months. Greg Roosevelt,

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Speaker 1: Brian Bouldingerer back with us. Rosie, you talked about it

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Speaker 1: before the break, NFL Daily's top twenty five players of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. We get started any position,

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Speaker 1: but we've got an offensive lineman with us in Brian Baldinger,

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Speaker 1: So you know where we're starting to give us some

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Speaker 1: old linement on the list.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted to hear Baldy tell me I'm dumb.

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Speaker 5: And this is a list where I had to leave

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Speaker 5: off so many great players Hall of famers. I wanted

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Speaker 5: to pick guys who were the very best of the

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Speaker 5: best at their peak, and so Baldy, I went with

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Speaker 5: Joe Thomas as my top tackle, and Walter Jones is

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Speaker 5: also on the list. I stuck in Zach Martin two.

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Speaker 5: We had to get a good interior alignment. Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 5: of course, known for the consecutive snaps streak, known for

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Speaker 5: just repeating what he does on a play to play

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Speaker 5: basis on such a high level a technician, a nice

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Speaker 5: guy shows you don't have to be a mean dude

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Speaker 5: to be one of the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 5: And then as I went through the list, the second

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Speaker 5: tackle spot was really tough for me. But Walter Jones

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Speaker 5: was a player. When he was playing, a lot of

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Speaker 5: people just thought he was the best football player period,

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Speaker 5: forget about just tackle at any position, and so I

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Speaker 5: had to get him on the list as well, you know,

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Speaker 5: more than I do. I mean, I'm just a plebeian.

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Speaker 5: So tell me what you think about my offensive lineman

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Speaker 5: choices and maybe who I might have missed in this list.

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Speaker 7: Well, Greg, first of all, I mean you're spot on here.

653
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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a difficult assignment. Okay, So there's

654
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Speaker 7: gonna be some guys that are gonna be left off,

655
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Speaker 7: and I don't really want to speak too much about

656
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 7: the guys left off, but the two guys you spoke of,

657
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 7: Joe Thomas and Walter Jones. Joe Thomas, when you say technician,

658
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Speaker 7: I mean the level of technicality that he played the

659
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Speaker 7: game with, from his stands to his set, which was

660
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 7: straight out of he was a shot putter in high school.

661
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Speaker 3: It's a shot put stance.

662
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Speaker 7: Lane Johnson copied it, you know, Jason Peters copied his stance,

663
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 7: and they copied his set, his vertical set, and this

664
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 7: stuff is what transcended some of the game, his ability

665
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 7: to keep one hand inside, one hand outside, to kill hand,

666
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: the guide hand. I mean he played differently than a

667
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 7: lot of people. Hit the hit and move the body.

668
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 7: I mean, just sitting down with Joe Thomas, things just

669
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 7: come to my mind, Greg, about how the game is played,

670
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Speaker 7: how you described the game, how you have to well,

671
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Speaker 7: how you have to play.

672
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Speaker 3: To be effective.

673
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Speaker 7: And then for Walter Jones, I remember when they went

674
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Speaker 7: to a Super Bowl that year and lost to the Steelers,

675
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Speaker 7: and you know, Hutchinson's the left guard and Walter Jones

676
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Speaker 7: left tackle. They were a left handed team, and I said,

677
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Speaker 7: I can build the entire game plan around that left

678
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 7: side of the offense line, but specifically Walter Jones. Matt

679
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 7: Hasselback is going to throw slants right by the aarhold

680
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 7: of Walter Jones. His de mand's not getting to him.

681
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Speaker 7: And then you know, you watch Shawn Alexander run and

682
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Speaker 7: how we ran and the year that we ran for

683
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Speaker 7: over four hundred carrys.

684
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Speaker 3: They're a team. He ran behind Walter Jones.

685
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Speaker 7: I mean the guy pushed trucks around the parking lot

686
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Speaker 7: for fun. Greg, Like this is real stuff, like moving trucks, because.

687
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Speaker 3: That's the kind of power that he had. He walked

688
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Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame rightfully.

689
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Speaker 7: So I think you got two really good players at

690
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Speaker 7: that position. You can argue others, but you can't argue

691
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Speaker 7: those two don't belong in your top twenty five.

692
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna be wrong with any of these.

693
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Speaker 1: It's the question of the guys that you left off

694
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Speaker 1: and the heartache of leaving them up. But twenty five

695
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: doesn't leave you a lot of wiggle rooms. So outside

696
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Speaker 1: of offensive lines, give us some notable names on your

697
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Speaker 1: list of twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One of the most fun parts of the exercise was

700
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Speaker 5: kind of going through position by position and making these decisions.

701
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Speaker 5: And one of the positions that was easy for me

702
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: was actually running back because I thought there was two

703
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 5: above the pack, Ladanian Thomlinson and Adrian Peterson. Tomlinson to me,

704
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: was just the most complete running back that you could

705
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Speaker 5: possibly create, an elab not a great on the goal

706
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: line and get me extra yards and him get small

707
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: in the hole and tougher than I think he gets

708
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: credit for, you know, going through those tackles that you

709
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: see there, but just an absolute dynamo on third downs,

710
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Speaker 5: whether you want him to block or as a receiver

711
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 5: to be He was my number one guy because I

712
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 5: think he's better on all three downs. But Peterson was

713
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Speaker 5: absolutely fantastic too. Another debate, and these two guys are

714
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Speaker 5: both very high on the list to me, was JJ

715
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Speaker 5: Watt or Aaron Donald as the greatest defensive player of

716
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Speaker 5: the last twenty five years. I won't give it away here,

717
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: but Wat is high on the list. I think what

718
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Speaker 5: he did in that three year run where they robbed

719
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Speaker 5: him of an MVP and he won those Defensive Players

720
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Speaker 5: of the Year was the best I've ever seen any

721
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: defensive player. He helped me and my friend Chris Wesley.

722
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Speaker 5: He helped us see the game differently because I didn't

723
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Speaker 5: used to watch a defensive player snap after snap after snap,

724
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Speaker 5: and he made it so entertaining, so fun that you

725
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: actually started to understand the game better just watching him.

726
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Speaker 5: And then of course finishes with a big year in

727
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen with the Cardinals two. And then I will

728
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Speaker 5: mention a guy who didn't make the list and Baldy.

729
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Speaker 5: You can talk about any three of these guys you want,

730
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Speaker 5: but I struggle that safety Ed Reid is high on

731
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Speaker 5: the list for me. Palamolo didn't quite make it, and

732
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Speaker 5: he was one of the players that hurt the most

733
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Speaker 5: to leave off the list. And it wasn't that he's

734
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: not a great player, but just comparing him to some

735
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: other players at different positions and the value of safety

736
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 5: and the All pros and some of the consistency, he

737
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: didn't quite make the cut. So I think it's it's

738
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 5: a big debate between Ravens fans and Steelers fans, Ed

739
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 5: Reed or Troy Polamalu.

740
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Speaker 3: I made the.

741
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Speaker 1: Choice of Ed Reid.

742
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you feel about it, Baldi or

743
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: the other players I just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look LT. You go back and look

745
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Speaker 3: at his numbers.

746
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 7: Great, he's the only back in NFL history that went

747
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 7: four hundred plus touches eight years in a row and

748
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 7: didn't miss games, still lined up coda hunter ball in

749
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 7: a season. You know, you're trying to differentiate him with

750
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Speaker 7: Adrian Peterson, but LT's volume of Carring's volume of touches.

751
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 7: You watch guys now, whether it's McCaffrey or going back

752
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 7: to Deuce mccows or Shawn Alexander.

753
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 3: You go back, you.

754
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 7: Know, in the history and looking guys that touched the

755
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 7: ball four hundred times what they did the next year.

756
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 7: All LT did was just consistently produce four hundred plus

757
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 7: touches receiving rushing eight years in a row.

758
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Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody.

759
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 7: And then thirty one touchdowns in two thousand and six

760
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 7: still hasn't really been challenged yet. Maybe somebody will with

761
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 7: seventeen game schedule, but nobody really has challenged thirty one touchdowns.

762
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Speaker 3: And then look you get.

763
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Speaker 7: To JJ Watt that run between twenty twelve twenty fifteen.

764
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Speaker 7: You know where he led the league in tackle for

765
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Speaker 7: losses three different times.

766
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Speaker 3: He had seventy combined sacks in that run. And he played.

767
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Speaker 3: He was the piano man. He played up and down

768
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, every position.

769
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Speaker 7: He let everybody in the offensive line feel his punch

770
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Speaker 7: and they felt it. He just changed the game. Ed

771
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 7: reads the greatest safety of all time, just flat out.

772
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Speaker 7: I mean, there's nothing against anybody else. It's the numbers,

773
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 7: punt returns, game changing plays, How he picked quarterbacks pockets,

774
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: how he took Peyton Manning to you know, behind the

775
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 7: woodshed and picked him off. I mean, Ed Reid is

776
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Speaker 7: one of the greatest players of all time.

777
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, attendees of the Sack Summit, this

778
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: guy might be a double agent. You might be getting

779
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: all that information and bringing it back to the offensive lineman.

780
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Bryan Baldinger at the twenty twenty five

781
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I guess this with twenty twenty four. I assume Baldi

782
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five coming up. I don't mean you know,

783
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot at your character there, Baldy.

784
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, an offensive lineman coming in there.

785
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Speaker 1: They got to be looking at you like this a

786
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's talk about this year's Sack Summit.

787
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I tell.

788
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 7: You I went last year and was invited, and it's

789
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 7: really run by Von Miller, Max Crosby, Cam Jordan, three

790
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 7: of the best out there in the league right now,

791
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 7: and it really it's really kind of an open forum

792
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 7: to talk about pass rush, to talk about defense, every

793
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: nuance of it, whether it's the moves, whether it's stunts,

794
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 7: how to set guys up. And so we're at UNLV

795
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 7: out there in the desert heat.

796
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: Of Las Vegas.

797
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 7: We're outside, we're on the field for her, you know,

798
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: three four hours out there walking through things with Von Miller.

799
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: Right there, we come into the.

800
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 7: Film room, Mike, I start showing a bunch of different

801
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 7: film Brian Burns is in the background right there, different players,

802
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 7: And it's interesting because we're now it's now really kind

803
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: of filtering down to a lot of younger players, Like

804
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 7: for example, last year and the rookie Braydon Fisk was

805
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 7: in the front row with a notepad taking notes, asking questions.

806
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: He also just so happened to lead all defensive linemen

807
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: with eight and a half.

808
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 7: Sacks a year ago. So the young guys are starting

809
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 7: to show up now.

810
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of those young guys, what rookies could be

811
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: this year's Braden Fisks, Guys that could learn some stuff

812
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: and carried on the playing field twenty five.

813
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mike, it's pretty exciting. The list right now is

814
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 7: at least fifty guys and seven of them a rookies,

815
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 7: including the forty nine ers first round pick mikel Williams,

816
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 7: the eleventh pick in the draft.

817
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: You know, from Georgia.

818
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Speaker 7: He started as an eighteen year old freshman for the Bulldogs,

819
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: won a national championship there. You know, last year played

820
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 7: with the high ankles brain he didn't have the same

821
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 7: production he had his sophomore year, but he's a guy

822
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 7: that can really play anywhere on the defensive line because

823
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 7: he's six y five's two hundred and seventy five pounds

824
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 7: and he's really strong, and so I think he's a

825
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 7: guy that has a chance to really develop and make

826
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: an impact opposite Nick Bosa year one. And then there's

827
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Speaker 7: Jalen Walker, also from Georgia. He went to Atlanta the

828
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: fifteenth pick. He was an off the ball inside linebacker,

829
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 7: but he showed great promise coming off the edge, speed

830
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 7: off the edge, and really good size and power as well.

831
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Speaker 3: And so the Falcons have been in search of a.

832
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 7: Pass rusher to get after Baker Mayfield of bryce young

833
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 7: guys in their own division, I'm anxious to see Jalen

834
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 7: Walker his movement and how he takes to some of

835
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 7: the coaching. And then the last guy I want to

836
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: mention this guy from Arkansas who the Buffalo Bills took

837
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Speaker 7: in a third round. You know, the top five picks

838
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 7: we're all defense, is this land In Jackson. Because when

839
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 7: you looked at him and he studied him number forty

840
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 7: right here, he's six foot six, he's got long arms,

841
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 7: he had great production here he is playing over the

842
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 7: guard on a twist stunt with the end right there.

843
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 7: He's a good long on player. He's got natural moves already.

844
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 7: I'm kind of anxious to see his movement and how

845
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 7: he performs out there. They do a number of drills

846
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: on Thursday morning out there on the field before we

847
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 7: start breaking out into groups and sessions and just talking

848
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 7: about different positions. A guy like Kalais Campbell, ageless Kalayis

849
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Speaker 7: campbellill be out there. I'm sure a guy like Landon Jackson,

850
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 7: Jalen Walker, Mikel Williams could learn a lot from a

851
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 7: guy like Kalais, who's back playing again this year with

852
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 7: the Arizona Cardinals.

853
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Speaker 3: I will at last year. I'm looking forward to learning

854
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: a lot this year and beating a lot of the

855
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Speaker 3: younger guys.

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Speaker 1: Just seeing that there with land and Jackson, that wasn't

857
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Speaker 1: just speed or power or a combination of both. That

858
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: was technique that he already has in his arsenal. So yeah,

859
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Speaker 1: adding a little bit more is going to make him

860
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Speaker 1: University is underway. George Kittle, Jeremy Shockey's still apparently yoked

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Speaker 1: these days. Travis Kelcey, Greg Olsen, that's Brock Powers on

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Speaker 1: the right, all of them professors at tight End University,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of folks taking in what Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: had to say. Yeah, they're not just there to see Taylor,

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Speaker 1: who's there for some reason. But Travis Kelsey not ready

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Speaker 1: to hang it up for himself, but making sure that

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Speaker 1: the next generation of tight Ends has all the information

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Speaker 1: that they need. And then speaking of people for some

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Speaker 1: reason that they're there for some reason. This guy is

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Speaker 1: there now, don't quit on them. Brian Baldinger, because the

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Speaker 1: first half is ugly, but he made some halftime adjustments.

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Speaker 1: Give us a bald breakdown of this.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, Mike, I mean, obviously he's not bending his

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Speaker 7: knees at all to start with, and it looks like

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Speaker 7: he's got a blindfold on.

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Speaker 3: He's got no periphery whatsoever. And so it was an

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Speaker 3: ugly start. It was a bad first half.

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Speaker 7: Come in the locker room, get you show someonere in

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Speaker 7: slices right, really, refocus and once he started bending his

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Speaker 7: knees like an athlete. Okay, and then really you look

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Speaker 7: at him right here, watch him start to bend his

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Speaker 7: knees here, all right, take the blindfold off. Now, now

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Speaker 7: he's got confidence. It's all about growing confidence. You can

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Speaker 7: see rab Sheet got his.

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Speaker 3: Confidence those last three you know flags that he that

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Speaker 3: he caught right there. But I saw a good neepend

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Speaker 3: at the end night. He was way too stiff to

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Speaker 3: start this drill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It is an ugly shirt. Oh you

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Speaker 1: said ugly start. Oh I'm sorry. Sorry the shirt was great, hey,

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Speaker 1: but you don't want to give him cryst He hung

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Speaker 1: in there. He didn't will maybe he'll be on the

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Now he's not on the show tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: I'll be Brian Baldier, see you later. Join us tomorrow