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Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe

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Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm

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Speaker 1: playing along with Rouge Aftab.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long Weuy, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Playing a lone with you.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, I'm Nora. This is Sarah Oda. Welcome to our show.

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Speaker 5: Our guest today is a Grammy winning singer, composer.

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Speaker 4: Producer Rouge Aftab.

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Speaker 5: She made history as the first artist from Pakistan to

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Speaker 5: want a Grammy when she won in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 5: for Best Global Music Performance.

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Speaker 4: She has a.

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Speaker 5: Pretty storied path, which I feel she kind of pulls

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Speaker 5: from so many different places and it makes her sound

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Speaker 5: really unique.

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Speaker 1: She's got a beautiful voice. I've always loved it. I'm

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Speaker 1: I met her through my sister and Shikishankar. They have

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Speaker 1: done a few different collaborations together. I met her at

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Speaker 1: the Grammys when they performed together, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just cool. This was so fun She's really

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Speaker 3: It was funny.

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Speaker 5: I learned the new saying. I don't want to give

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Speaker 5: it away, so maybe we'll bleep it. But like when

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Speaker 5: you're really close to something that you're away from something,

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Speaker 5: you remember when she said that, Yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 5: what we're like, can we just go back a stuff?

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Speaker 4: I never thought about it before. Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: She's very funny and as always, there's incredible duets in

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Speaker 5: the episode, including a song in Urdu and a cover

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Speaker 5: of one of my one of my favorite pop hits.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited when she suggested the cover. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a little bit of a you know, like

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Speaker 4: Wanted to do that. I want to It's very special.

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Speaker 4: So stay tuned. I hope you enjoy the episode with

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Speaker 1: There is some spicy language in this episode, so listener

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Speaker 1: discretion is advised.

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Speaker 4: It's not that bad, but just so you know it's there.

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Speaker 6: It feels weird that you're doing all the accompaniment.

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Speaker 4: No, it's fun. It's actually really fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's literally the name of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun when somebody else plays and I don't

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Speaker 6: But I also it's kind of good for me. I've

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Speaker 6: only ever seen seen you play and sing live.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a couple of years where like I

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Speaker 1: would stand up and sing a couple of songs without playing.

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Speaker 1: But I don't really look good doing that.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen you do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with my hands, And

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Speaker 1: I think part of what makes my thing special is

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Speaker 1: the marriage of the piano and the singing.

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Speaker 6: All of it's special.

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Speaker 4: Do you play? What do you write on?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Cool?

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Speaker 6: I haven't sang someone else's song in a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do not usually do any covers?

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Speaker 6: No, it's just like I've been a brat.

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Speaker 4: And I was just like, I don't think that's brat.

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Speaker 6: God, it's actually really it's actually so great. I feel

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Speaker 6: like all of us should be regularly for no reason,

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Speaker 6: just like learning other people's songs because you learn so much.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like learning a new language. Yeah, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: everybody has different turns.

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Speaker 6: It must be so like you just through the podcast,

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Speaker 6: you're just you kind of are learning everybody else's music.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been good for me writing wise too,

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Speaker 1: But I probably end up writing a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: that sounds like other people's songs from the podcast, probably now,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I realized that I've just been so

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Speaker 1: I know, but this is freaking I'm also not in

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Speaker 1: be even if we're both not in our comfort zone, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean this is I'm comfortable knowing that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just can't even believe that you're going

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Speaker 4: I'm going to try.

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Speaker 8: Let's do it, okay, Moble.

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Speaker 9: Good in It, Come.

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Speaker 10: Diddy me Feld, Mack.

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Speaker 11: Home Home, Morbad Cotton Wally, The Money Hood, Cave.

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Speaker 12: He Cotedom, the Money Body, Cavenctedo.

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Speaker 13: Marble.

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Speaker 10: Gotten Evil, Come No.

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Speaker 3: Very feel.

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Speaker 13: Lick and.

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Speaker 3: Oh no Long.

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Speaker 6: That's really sweet. I thought that was gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: Oh your voice is so pretty.

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Speaker 3: You're just your norge. Oh my god, you're.

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Speaker 6: On the wave. Click, it's like that's you.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is crazy, dude, it's crazy. It's so fun.

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Speaker 6: Have you thank you yeahs for having Thanks for even

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Speaker 6: knowing and caring and inviting me.

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Speaker 4: No, you've been on our list actually for a really

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Speaker 6: Been on the list, been on the list, the good list,

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Speaker 6: the good one, Yeah, some bad ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a No No podcast. Guest list, don't

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Speaker 4: ever invite x. No, we met at the.

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Speaker 6: Grammys, you know, actually did we meet before that? So

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Speaker 6: we met in I don't know if it was two

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Speaker 6: thousand and six and seven, I uh, were in New

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Speaker 6: and I was completely having like a full meltdown.

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Speaker 4: Was it a total bit?

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Speaker 6: No, you were, I mean you obviously didn't know how

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Speaker 6: I was, but I was like, oh my god. And

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Speaker 6: then I was like, I like, I was like, hi,

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Speaker 6: I like easy listening. I was like so nervous, and

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Speaker 6: you were like, you mean easy because that was.

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Speaker 4: The song from her record that we did together.

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Speaker 6: Was it from her record?

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Speaker 3: Easy?

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Speaker 6: And I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, I meant easy,

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Speaker 4: That's funny.

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Speaker 6: I know it was great.

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Speaker 4: That's a great awkward moment.

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Speaker 6: I messed up. No, I called it easy listening. I

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Speaker 4: I do have a little bit of a like a

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Speaker 4: trigger for that easy listening. Oh smooth jazz, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, a cigarette lounge singer. Yeah, I get that

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Speaker 1: I used to get that a lot, and it used

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Speaker 1: to really Oh so I just made to no, no,

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure I knew.

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Speaker 4: I just said the most the without even knowing it

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Speaker 6: I mean the song was called easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was called easy.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so it's kind of leading it totally. But I

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Speaker 6: didn't ever think of you that way. I just said

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Speaker 4: Because I Toldally, that's funny. Sorry, No, it's fine.

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Speaker 14: I love you.

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Speaker 4: It's just funny. Because I used to get really bent

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Speaker 6: It was not even possible, because in two thousand and

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Speaker 6: massive the two albums back to back, like those those

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Speaker 6: like what's the word is it? Seminal?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't even want to try the English in that direction,

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Speaker 6: those like Epic Records had just come out and everyone

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Speaker 6: was obsessed with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I got a lot of airplay on

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Speaker 1: easy listening in smooth jazz stations, and I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you.

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Speaker 4: I am cool with it now.

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Speaker 13: Well, you are.

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Speaker 6: Still the number one. Come Away with Me is still

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Speaker 6: on Billboards number one Jazz Contemporary Jazz playlist.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: And I know this because one of my songs went

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Speaker 6: that's funny, so insane number. So yeah, you're still number one, baby.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, maybe that's crazy. So where did you grow up?

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Speaker 6: I grew up a little bit in Saudi Arabia. That's

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Speaker 6: was eleven, and then I moved to Boston when I

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Speaker 6: was nineteen, okay, and I went to Berkeley and I

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Speaker 6: studied you know, did you study?

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Speaker 1: I studied at North Texas for two years. Oh, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I studied piano and then I was in like the jazz. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: It was? It was I knew it was like engineering

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Speaker 4: But that's great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I didn't Yeah, I didn't know. The singing as

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Speaker 6: Mean I could have it, you can get better. But

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Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, I think there was something there was

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think if they'd had that when

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Speaker 1: it would have helped me a lot.

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Speaker 4: But they did not have that.

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Speaker 6: But you can play so well, oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know well, but I, Matt can tell you, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to do anything in there.

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Speaker 6: It's really helpful. I do feel that, like knowing learning

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Speaker 6: all of the mic stuff and all of it, it's

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Speaker 6: and you can kind of be the man in the studio.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that way of describing it.

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Speaker 6: You like, stop explaining this to me. I know how

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Speaker 6: EQ works, you know.

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Speaker 4: I've definitely had some moments where I was like, but

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know how to how to change it.

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Speaker 1: But not anymore because Matt listens to me. Thanks Matt,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Matt. But did you find that? I mean, I

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Speaker 6: Definitely. I think it's so important to just do the

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Speaker 4: How did your parents feel about you going to Berkeley?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a weird business to get into, it is.

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Speaker 6: To I've started to like just you know, we're just

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Speaker 6: Then I started, I mean, I've always written my little

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Speaker 6: We always have this, right, I'm sure you do too.

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Speaker 6: After you do an album or like you're like, here's

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Speaker 6: How did we do that? And how are we going

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Speaker 6: Then you're moving along, and so that moving along is like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: He yeah, let's do it.

449
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 4: Will you send me a new song? Yes, it's really pretty.

450
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 6: I appreciate you.

451
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: We should try it. Okay, So this has not been

452
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: released yet.

453
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 6: No, this hasn't been released. Yete.

454
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 9: We're outside on a summer night.

455
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 14: It's just us for a little while, and it's easy,

456
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 14: but not enough. There's a little corner in your smile

457
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 14: that will stay with me for quite a while.

458
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 6: So easily, but it's not enough.

459
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: If this is love, I'll take it.

460
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 10: It's a quiet one, a simple one, just as for

461
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 10: a little while, but not in.

462
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: No, outside on a summer night, it's just us for

463
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: a little WHI.

464
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 16: Sozy but not enough. Your eyes are catching street light.

465
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 16: I'm an old and I'm a little surprised, and I

466
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 16: don't know, well homemaids.

467
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Anymore.

468
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 9: If this is love.

469
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: Take case. It's just quiet work, a simple one, just.

470
00:26:22,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 13: For a little word ninety yeah, do that, Norah first rite.

471
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know, no, No, I think that's that's

472
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 6: as far as I got.

473
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: Oh, so it's a work in progress.

474
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I kind of feel like the story

475
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 6: is done, but maybe I have to write more. Maybe

476
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: there's something Yeah.

477
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I love that you've brought in a work

478
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: in progress.

479
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 13: I know.

480
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 6: I mean I wanted. I thought it would be something

481
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: that sounded like we could do together. Yeah, it sounds

482
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: like a song. Maybe it sounds like something that. Yeah,

483
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 6: is your song? Also, let's go outside on a summer night.

484
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 11: Yeah.

485
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: And when I was Upstate a few years ago, every

486
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: time I would listen to this one radio station, a

487
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: song of yours will come on, and every time I

488
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: was like, what is this?

489
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 9: I love that?

490
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

491
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it made me so happy.

492
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 6: That's so crazy. That's beautiful.

493
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. It was maybe happy.

494
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 6: I'm not played on the radio, but maybe upstairs.

495
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like a woodstock radio exactly.

496
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: And then then they played you a lot because I

497
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 4: heard it many many times.

498
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

499
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah made me happy.

500
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 6: That's beautiful.

501
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first time I was truly aware of

502
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And though you've know my sister for

503
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: a really long time, yeah, I mean I she came

504
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: to Berkeley to perform her album Rise.

505
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: Oh that was so long ago, a long time ago.

506
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: And she also played with these the percussion, the three

507
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 6: I don't know. There was something she played at the

508
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 6: theater and I saw it, and then a friend of

509
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: mine knew her bassist and school was able to introduce

510
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: me to her. That's how we met. And that was

511
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: definitely like a very long time ago, and you became friends.

512
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: Then she was nice and have to become friends with

513
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 6: just some rando, which was me. She was completely okay.

514
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 6: I was not vetted at all, and I had so

515
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 6: funny and I didn't have anything to show for like

516
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 6: my musicianship, because I was just starts. But she was

517
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: nice and kind and became friends. Instead of like that's

518
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 6: a fan, We're never seeing that person.

519
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't give that person my personal she was like

520
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: like here and then oh that's cool. She probably felt

521
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: a kinship with you as she said, and you guys

522
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: have collaborated a.

523
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 6: Lot now, right, Yeah. Yeah, And that's kind of a

524
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 6: similar feeling that I got from from hanging out with her.

525
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 6: She she played, she did a solo, she took a

526
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: she took a like bitch and s our solo on

527
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 6: one of my songs. And then I produced one of

528
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 6: her chapters. You know how she's got these.

529
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 9: I didn't know that.

530
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I did the first one.

531
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: So is that the one you did? You guys perform

532
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: at the Grammys?

533
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 6: We did perform in the Grammy.

534
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: Well what did you perform?

535
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 6: That was the song that she had takes that she

536
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 6: features on those.

537
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 13: That she featured on.

538
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, it was great.

539
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 6: No, it was so important to see someone like in Nushka,

540
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: like when you know, back in the day, just seeing

541
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 6: somebody who looks like me and is kind of a

542
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 6: badass and isn't just like either in the yoga meditation

543
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 6: world or like the complete classical world. She was doing

544
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 6: something really really bold and innovative, right, Like with her instrument,

545
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 6: which is such a classical, like the gitar is like.

546
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: It's a hard instrument to fit, Like you see.

547
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: That thing and you're just instantly in the taj mahal

548
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 6: or you know it's crazy, but yeah, she was being daring,

549
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 6: I think with rise and I was, and it really

550
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: struck me. It was so important to have her to

551
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: see that, you know, and then that she was nice

552
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 6: and you know, let me be her friend.

553
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: That's great.

554
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I remember that time and I think it was a

555
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: really special moment for her to sort of step out

556
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: of where she had been brought up in that Indian

557
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: classical world. And I remember it was really I felt

558
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: like she was dying to do stuff because she always

559
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: listened to other kinds of music.

560
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: She was always into like crazy music, yeah, all.

561
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Over the map, and so it was it was nice

562
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: to see her sort of step out and find her

563
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: own thing outside of that world which is very traditional,

564
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: you know.

565
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like we were in the studio and

566
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know what happened. I was

567
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 6: thinking of some sort of line, like some sort of melody,

568
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: and you know, I was like, okay, and play this,

569
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: and then she played it on the sitar and she

570
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 6: it's like she didn't just play the melody, she played

571
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 6: it as inshka and knowing her repertoire like by heart

572
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 6: in my seat. I was just like, oh, yeah, it's

573
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: her that she's playing the sitar, and that's something really

574
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: unique and beautiful. And and you, I just feel like

575
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 6: when you when you, when we first heard your voice,

576
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: collectively as humans, we'd never heard that before, and it's

577
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: shocked everybody. And now and you created a wave of

578
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 6: this style, this tone, like you know, your tone is

579
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: so unique, and now there's like an army of people

580
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 6: who sing like Nah Jones, you know, like there it's

581
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 6: literally it's become like a tonal stut. You know what

582
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: I'm talking about, right?

583
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: I guess.

584
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I think you're sort of a blueprint.

585
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what I am.

586
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: But I went to the doctor a few years ago

587
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: and I realized have a deviated septum and I was like,

588
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: oh is that?

589
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: And she's like, I think maybe.

590
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: You shouldn't do anything about it, because what if it

591
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: changed your voice?

592
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: You can't do that?

593
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Is that where I get my tone from? From my deviatedcept?

594
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: How do you feel about music right now?

595
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 4: In general? I don't really think about it much.

596
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: Are you Are you on a new album? Are you

597
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 6: always writing?

598
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm kind of always dabbling and stuff, But yeah, I

599
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: am working on something new right now.

600
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: Isn't funny Like any time you ask a musician, hey,

601
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: what's new the they're always they're just gonna be like, well,

602
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 6: I'm working on my new album.

603
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

604
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 6: Always it's just like, don't tell me. I don't want

605
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 6: to hear about your new album anything else. Just say

606
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 6: anything else.

607
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, I'm working on a musical.

608
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh really?

609
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 9: Yes?

610
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: What? Yeah, it's been pretty wid no way.

611
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: And I'm working on a movie soundtrack, which i've is

612
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: something I've never done. Yeah, I've never done a score

613
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully it works out unless they scrap it all.

614
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: But it's been really fun and no way to you know,

615
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: work at home and not be on tour. You though,

616
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: I love touring, but you know you don't want to

617
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: do too much of it.

618
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, what about you?

619
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: Are you between things? What are you up to right now?

620
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: Are you always touring or do you wait and do

621
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: album cycle stuff?

622
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: I toured a lot this last four years because I

623
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 6: didn't I didn't get my break, my big break. I

624
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 6: got my break finally four years ago or something, and

625
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: so then I've just been like kind of going deep

626
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 6: and riding the wave and just like enjoying tour, like

627
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: touring heavily and just being a full time musician. I

628
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: didn't get to have that for all this whole while.

629
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 6: But now it's been two years since I put out

630
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: a record. I can't believe that that's true. Yeah, and

631
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 6: so it's I guess it's it's time to put out

632
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 6: another one. And so I'm touring less this year so

633
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 6: that I can actually make a record that does the

634
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 6: things shows the passage of time. I can catch up

635
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 6: with how I'm feeling blah blah blah, you know, like

636
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 6: the feelings. The articulation of feeling is kind of important

637
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: and all the new if you want to do something.

638
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: I could make another record on the same way that

639
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 6: I have, but I want to see what's next a

640
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 6: little bit without breaking it completely. So yeah, I'm gonna

641
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna play least, which is sad because I like it.

642
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: Do you ever play locally because you live in New York?

643
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? I just did a Blue Note residency. Yeah, Blue Note.

644
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 6: It was four nights.

645
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: Were you exhausted because it's two shows night?

646
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 11: Right?

647
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 6: Yeah? It was really exhausting. I had come off I

648
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: had come off like an eleven or twelve shows with

649
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 6: the Metropol Orchestra in the Netherlands and just like landed

650
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: in New York after that, and those were back to

651
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 6: back and then just like got here and then the

652
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 6: next day was the Blue Note stuff. So yeah, I

653
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: was like really tired, but it was so fun. It's

654
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 6: Blue Note, It's New York. It's like it's where we're

655
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: it's where we are, it's where we are from.

656
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: You get to go home at night and.

657
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: You can go home.

658
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 6: The two shows thing is pretty intense.

659
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: Though it is.

660
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: I did it.

661
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: I did it with Robert Glasper. Yeah, years ago.

662
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: I did five nights I think because you guys went

663
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 6: to band camp we did We were.

664
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: Actually and you know he does it every year. He

665
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: does like a month there.

666
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't know how he does a month.

667
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: He's like how many I was like, how many days

668
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: do you want me to do?

669
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, the whole week would be great,

670
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, right, how about five days?

671
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 6: Did you do that?

672
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: When I did it a couple of years ago?

673
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 16: Maybe?

674
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like where was I if you were like

675
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: five twenty maybe twenty twenty four. And by the second night,

676
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: I was like, what did I sign up for? I'm

677
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: so tired. This is insane.

678
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like not used to it.

679
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 6: It's kind of the weight in between the sets is

680
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 6: also insane.

681
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: It's hard to wait between the sets. And then by

682
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: the fourth night, I was having a ball and I

683
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: was totally in the groove.

684
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, we're just going to be very

685
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 6: straight about this and we're going to do this perfectly beautifully,

686
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 6: and it's just going to be like just super professional

687
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 6: and amazing, even though we're tired. And the blue note,

688
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 6: you know, it's like old and blah blah blah like

689
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: sound is. It's just kind of like a wildcat.

690
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: Situation change setting like Rectangle.

691
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 6: At some point, the ten thirty shows were definitely like

692
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 6: a little looser and more fun. And then like third

693
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 6: night ten thirty show, I was like, you know what,

694
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 6: just give me the tequila. I never drink, like I

695
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 6: can barely. You're not suppose you're gonna get drunk on stage.

696
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: It's terrible, you know, it's like not not the vibe.

697
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 6: But yeah, it was like, Okay, I don't care, just

698
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 6: give me the tequila.

699
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think at a club show like that, if

700
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: you if you drink, it's really hard to not drink

701
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: on the second set a little bit.

702
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, like between the set totally, it's like there's so

703
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: much not saying so much.

704
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody should do that. Please drink responsibly.

705
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 13: But yeah.

706
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: And then at some point I found myself talking about

707
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 6: my cat in between songs and I was like, you

708
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 6: are drunk. I was like, what am I sick?

709
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: Was like, was it your favorite show?

710
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 6: I think so?

711
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, did you record these shows?

713
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 6: The shows I recorded?

714
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: Did you hear it back?

715
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 9: And no?

716
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 4: Was it still your favorite?

717
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: You listen back?

718
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 6: I can't listen to them all. It's too crazy, I know.

719
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: I listened to like Yeah. I scrubbed through one taping

720
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 6: and I was like, okay, I've had enough. We're not

721
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 6: releasing this.

722
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, somebody else.

723
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: If somebody else goes through it and picks the best stuff,

724
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier.

725
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

726
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 6: I feel like I saw you play with Robert in

727
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 6: La one of these.

728
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Grammy Oh yeahah, and I knew she goes there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

729
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: yeah we were together to that. Yes, that was fun.

730
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 6: That was the year that it was funny because you

731
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 6: I think you had spoken to me in the elevator

732
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 6: in two thousand and six, and then the three of

733
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 6: us were backstage at the Grammys and then and we

734
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 6: kind of had shared dressing rooms. And then all three

735
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 6: of us came back to the dressing room. We had

736
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: all lost all three of us had lost our categories.

737
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: And I said, what's up, losers? And you were like,

738
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: you're cool, And that was it, you.

739
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: Said, that's the only thing we said. We didn't go

740
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: out neat or anything.

741
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: No, I ran away, you know, I was like, I've

742
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: become kind of like, I just what do you think?

743
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: Do you like music right now?

744
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 6: I like, I like some music right now?

745
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: What are you into right?

746
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: I think? Isn't it?

747
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 6: Hasn't it gone?

748
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 9: Like?

749
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: Really pop?

750
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the only music I'm aware

751
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: of lately is pop music because it's maybe because I

752
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: have kids and they listen to some stuff, but they

753
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: don't really all the time. But yeah, I feel like

754
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: pop music is huge right now and it's really good and.

755
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 6: It's really good. Yeah. Doing like having to prepare a

756
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 6: song that isn't mine or yours that I know by

757
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: heart and just someone else's that is more current has

758
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: made me realize that, like I should pay more attention

759
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: and not be such a little grouch, you know. I'm

760
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 6: just like, I'm not I don't listen to music when

761
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 6: I'm writing my own album and I don't. I don't

762
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: listen to this.

763
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh you don't.

764
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: I try to know. Yeah, it's because you know, you

765
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 6: can get confused.

766
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 15: With what you like.

767
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: I feel like make but like during yeah, like.

768
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 6: When you're locked in, you're listening to other stuff.

769
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: I don't ever feel that locked in.

770
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm like a compartmentalized mouse, always looking for cheese in

771
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: different corners. I mean, I'm like, you know, kid drop

772
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: off and then meditation and then you know, I gotta

773
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: go work on this, and then I got to go

774
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: work on this.

775
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: I'm always completely all over the place.

776
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 6: That makes sense you that's cool, you can do that.

777
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: That's not great.

778
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 6: Well, there's been a lot of there's like you know

779
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 6: how people are like, well, what's your reference for the

780
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: song you want that we haven't written yet? And I

781
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 6: hate that. I'm just like that. I don't know.

782
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: That's a real, like song collaboration thing that I've never

783
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: experienced until recently.

784
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, that's how people do stuff. I know.

785
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: I was reading that's why all these songs sound like yeah.

786
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: I was like, no, way, absolutely, we're not doing that.

787
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just play.

788
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 6: Let's just play.

789
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 13: Yeah.

790
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: Do you write a lot with other people?

791
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 13: I have like my sort of.

792
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 6: Collaborators that I've known for a long time, and now

793
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: I am branching out a little bit and collaborating with

794
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 6: people that I don't know at all, and so things

795
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 6: like this are coming out. Producers that I, you know,

796
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 6: just walk into the room with because the publisher set

797
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 6: it up, or musicians that I've just heard of and

798
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 6: I haven't spent any time with. So it's a little scary,

799
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: but it's been kind of cool. It's been mostly kind

800
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 6: of great good because it's reminding me a lot of

801
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 6: the fact that I know what I want. You can

802
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 6: forget that, yes, because you're just with the same og

803
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: homies that you play with, and we all kind of

804
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 6: know we can read each other's minds because we've been

805
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 6: playing together for like decades. But then you walk in

806
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 6: a room with somebody who doesn't know at all what

807
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: you want, and then you're telling them and you've got

808
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 6: the language and you've got the groove going, and you're like, oh, yeah, okay,

809
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 6: we know how to do this.

810
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: You're still speaking the same language. You just have different jingles.

811
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 17: Right.

812
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 6: It's a little reassuring, and it's a little scary. It's

813
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: it's a little bit scary to see like like industry

814
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: songwriting tech, like whatever people are doing, like the reference

815
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 6: track thing, and yeah, it's cool, it's good. It's we

816
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: just keep learning.

817
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 9: We do.

818
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: But so often I feel like if you have a reference,

819
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: once you're to the finish line of your song, it's

820
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: it's like, it's totally different what the reference was, you know,

821
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: it's more like just a diving off point.

822
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: Sometimes yeah, for some people.

823
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 6: But I like, I like Billie Eilish. Her songwriting is cool,

824
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 6: I think, and I and like learning her song. I

825
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 6: was like because I was like, yeah, we can do

826
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 6: that one. It's just piano and singing and it's gonna

827
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 6: be fine. It's so easy. And then when I like

828
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 6: started to sing it, I was like, oh, this is

829
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: actually complicated.

830
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: It's a great song.

831
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: It's so good.

832
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: I was so excited when you said this song.

833
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, did you watch the movie?

834
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 13: Did you like it?

835
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 4: The Barbie movie?

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

837
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched it with my daughter had already seen it,

838
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: and she asked me to watch it with her.

839
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: One night, just the two of us. It was so cute,

840
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 4: it was great, and when the song came on, I.

841
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: Was just like whoa.

842
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: But I already knew the song because it had already

843
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: been out for a while, Okay, but I couldn't believe

844
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: how beautiful it worked with the film.

845
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: Nice. Yeah. I also felt that it was so great

846
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 6: that they did that as opposed to just some barbie like.

847
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: A pop song. Yeah, like a fast song, a fast.

848
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 6: A fast pop, plasticly literally song. It was this emotional,

849
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: sort of introspective, kind of depressing, so.

850
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: Sad, and they were like such a sad and it's

851
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: so beautiful. It's still like universal, yeah, and I feel like.

852
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 6: Like how women really feel. Yeah, let's go there.

853
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: And I also was reading.

854
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true, but I feel

855
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: like I remember seeing an article or something with Billie

856
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Eilish and she was saying how she was, you know,

857
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: not really writing in a zone where she wasn't writing

858
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: so much and not sure what she was going to do.

859
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: And then the song just kind of fell out, as

860
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, the movie had inspired it so much that

861
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: it just sort of fell out. And that's just you

862
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: can just feel it when a song is truly from

863
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: the heart, right, Yeah, I feel like.

864
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: That, and they kept it that way also, I think

865
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 6: you Yeah, like she was just kind of went to

866
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 6: the piano and just was doing this thing.

867
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty. Do you want to sing the song?

868
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 6: Should we do it?

869
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: Should we try it?

870
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 7: Yeah?

871
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: I used to float. No, I just falled down. I

872
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: used to know.

873
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 9: I'm not sure what A was made for? What was

874
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 9: I made for?

875
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 18: Taken and try? I was an idya looked so like

876
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 18: turns out a lot real just something you paid for?

877
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 9: What was I made for?

878
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: Because I I don't know how to fee, but I

879
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: want to try. I don't know how a fee.

880
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 10: But some day.

881
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: Mind, but a day mind when dad it ends.

882
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: All the enjoyn.

883
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm sad again, don't have my more friend.

884
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: It's not what he's made for?

885
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: What was I made for? Because I.

886
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 19: I I don't know how to feed, but I tid

887
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 19: I don't know how to feed sidea ha man.

888
00:47:46,719 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Sid man, Thank I for God. How to be happy?

889
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 20: Something I'm not, but something I can be. Something I

890
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 20: wait for, something.

891
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 4: I made for, something I have made for. I love

892
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: that song. That was pretty.

893
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: You I know and your voice is perfect for this song,

894
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I feel like, but I feel like I still thought

895
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: it sounded like you. That's the trick with covering a song,

896
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: especially one that's so popular, so you just want to

897
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: kind of copy the person covering it, but you also

898
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: want to make it your own.

899
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: So I think we did.

900
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 13: We did our job.

901
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 6: I think I think we have really distinct We've kind

902
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 6: of we know what we sound like in a way.

903
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's so hard to not just want to

904
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: sound like her.

905
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: She's so pretty. But I'm glad we put it down

906
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: a little bit so that it's not in the same range.

907
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Billy, you're crazy, Billy, you're so gys.

908
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: She's also very young, and I feel like her voice

909
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: hasn't Yeah, it.

910
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 6: Hasn't dropped drop. It's like, I feel like we're just becoming.

911
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: This is why I say things in interviews and then

912
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 6: my people are like, oh my god, she's just like

913
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 6: a bees dick away from getting canceled all the time.

914
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: Wait, I was going to say, did you say a

915
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: bees dick?

916
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 9: Yes?

917
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 6: And I shouldn't have.

918
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: I never heard that expression before, but.

919
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, it's like so close.

920
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 4: No, I get it, but I just had had to

921
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: make sure I heard you right, are we Yeah?

922
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 6: But what I was I was going to I was

923
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: going to say, like, as we get older, we're just

924
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 6: like sort of morphing into becoming men. You know, Yeah,

925
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 6: I know our voice, which I don't mind. I feel

926
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 6: like maybe that's the ultimate like for being a woman

927
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 6: for all of our lives. And in the end, it's like, okay,

928
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 6: now you get to be a man.

929
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 4: In the end, you get to be man. You get

930
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 4: to grow mustache and weird, weird.

931
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 6: It's like invasion. Yeah, this is just so nice on

932
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 6: you and being here and jamming with you. What a

933
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 6: what a gift. You're also like you invite people to

934
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 6: come over and hang out with you, which is a gift.

935
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for joining me. You asked if we could

936
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: do one of my songs. Yes, Sunrise. Yeah, it's so

937
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: awesome and this And I.

938
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: Woke up this morning like I was having a dream

939
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 6: that I was looking at all the old episodes of

940
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: your podcast and that you had done Sunrise with every

941
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 6: single artist, and I was like, oh my god, this

942
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 6: is literally what I was dreaming.

943
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 13: Is very funny.

944
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, you know, because that's

945
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 6: a lot of pressure and then I thought, did you

946
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 6: know that a rouge aftab literally means sunrise?

947
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: No?

948
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 4: I didn't know that really, So that's cool. That is cool.

949
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

950
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: So when that song, Okay, when you first heard that song,

951
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: did you think it was for you?

952
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 6: I just thought about it today after the traumatic dream

953
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 6: about Sunrise in the po was like, oh positive, what's positive?

954
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh no.

955
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 6: When Sunrise came out, we were like I was listening

956
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: to it obsessively all the time, you know, and I'm like,

957
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: there's a lot of nostalgia lately for like, where did

958
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 6: my discman go? I know, you know, we never said goodbye.

959
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 6: It's just one day. I know where it's now.

960
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 16: Yeah.

961
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: And then you have to like check your text to

962
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: before you play a song, and then you forget that

963
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: you just want to play music, and then you get

964
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: lost in your phone. Yeah.

965
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this song has been my friend for a

966
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 6: really long time.

967
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: Good.

968
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 4: Yes, I have a question.

969
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: It's a selfish question. Can you tell me what you

970
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: think of this song? No, do you think of this

971
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: song as a country song? Because I always kind of

972
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: thought of as a little bit of a country song.

973
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: I was just wondering if that registered at all no,

974
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: not at all.

975
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 6: Not at all. I never thought of it as a

976
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 6: country song. Yeah, I thought it was like a really

977
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 6: sexy song. And then today, for the first time, also

978
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 6: in my life, I saw the music video.

979
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 4: Oh it's so dorky.

980
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 13: What is going on?

981
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: Dark town?

982
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 6: How are you guys fishing for?

983
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay, I don't know.

984
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: It was just because this is like a in bed

985
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: after the situation, oh.

986
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Kind of, I don't know.

987
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: That was my second record, and I just had a

988
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: bunch of video treatments and I picked one that I

989
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: thought was fine and it's cool. Yeah, and all my

990
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: friends weren't it my band and friends and my friends

991
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: were in the tree with brown paint on their face.

992
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: Probably not a good thing in hindsight. I liked it

993
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: very weird.

994
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: I liked the video a lot. Yeah, yeah, but it

995
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 6: was I was like, oh, is this like not it's

996
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 6: not a playful sexy song. I don't know, but you

997
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 6: know it's whatever you wanted to be. Well, it's not.

998
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 6: It didn't give me country. I really like that. The

999
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 6: way it starts, the intro is amazing, the bassline is amazing.

1000
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: Oh cool. Yeah, I had this great guitar player back then.

1001
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: His name is Kevin Bright, He's Canadian, and anything he

1002
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: played just sounded cool.

1003
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 6: So yeah. And then my selfish question is have you

1004
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 6: played this with other people a lot?

1005
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: I don't think I played this one. I wanted anyone

1006
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: that I can think of.

1007
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 6: Actually, that's so yeah.

1008
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: I usually I played come away with me or don't

1009
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: know why with other people if they want to play something.

1010
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: So you're the first. Maybe that's what I wanted to hear.

1011
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: It's you in the sunrise.

1012
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 17: Sunrise Sunrise looks like morning in Unis, but the Courtail

1013
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 17: nine fifteen four hours.

1014
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 15: Sunrise Sunrise couldn't enter surf try because the afternoons already

1015
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 15: come and gone.

1016
00:54:53,320 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: Yes, who.

1017
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 7: To you? Surprise surprise, couldn't find it in your bout

1018
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 7: of shorts written up along on my face?

1019
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 15: Surprise surprise never something I could have.

1020
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 10: When I see we made it through another day, and

1021
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 10: I said.

1022
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: Who.

1023
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: Now the NYE.

1024
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: Toys cover down.

1025
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 13: On me again?

1026
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 10: Oh?

1027
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: I fright. It's the only way to bring me back.

1028
00:57:48,280 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: To you. Awesome sick yay, thanks for listening to the show.

1029
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love her. She's so funny. She's

1030
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: really a bas dick.

1031
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 5: She is like unsuspectingly hilarious. Never thought about a beast dick.

1032
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 5: Now it's part of my everyday conversation I'm thinking about.

1033
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. If you want to

1034
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: know what songs we played in today's episode, the first

1035
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: song we did was called Mohabat and it's an urdu

1036
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: gazzel written by Heavy Lease Hashia Pori I'm recorded by

1037
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Rouge on.

1038
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: Her album Vulture Prints from twenty twenty one.

1039
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: The second song we did was called so Easy and

1040
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: it is unreleased but will be coming out soon maybe.

1041
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: The third song we did was what Was I Made

1042
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: for the Billie Eilish classic song from the Motion Picture

1043
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: of Barbie released in twenty twenty three. The fourth song

1044
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: we did was one of mine called Sunrise from Feels

1045
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Like Calm, which came out in two thousand and four,

1046
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: and it was written by myself and my bass player

1047
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: Lee Alexander. Special thanks to Arujevtab for joining us today.

1048
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Will be back next week with Ron Carter and Bill Frizelle.

1049
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Norah Jones is playing along as a production of iHeart Podcasts.

1050
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: Visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while

1051
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: you're there.

1052
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: I'm your host Nora Jones.

1053
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: This episode was recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry.

1054
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Audio post production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by

1055
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Eliza fr Photography by Shervin Linez and Sam Balaban.

1056
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 4: Produced by Norah Jones and Sarah Ora.

1057
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Executive producers Aaron Wan Kaufman and Jordan Montagu.

1058
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: Marketing lead Alison Kant Graber,