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But then you start to see 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.280 some of the fractured relationships there, the petty jealousies, the 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.840 ego that comes in workplace politics, between Phil Jackson and 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.520 the GM, Jerry Krause. You got a glimpse into how undervalued, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.800 underappreciated Scottie pippenfelt. You know, Jordan tearing up watching his 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.720 mother read a letter that he wrote to her in 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.320 college when he was homesick at North Carolina. People think 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.480 winning cures everything, money cures everything, but you can see 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.559 early on in the last Dance that's not the case 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.600 at all. As great as the nineteen ninety seven Bulls were, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.440 you can see the championship team falling apart right before 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.280 your very eyes. And it started before the season started 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.920 because you had a GM say to the coach, I 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.720 don't care if you go eighty two, and oh you're 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:03.080 not coming back. It's a story about ambition, competitiveness, and 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.840 the ego. And we're only two episodes in and with 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.160 no live sports on right now. It's going to be 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.640 a lot of fun to see the story unfold in 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.280 eight more episodes. I thought the first two episodes were 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.359 really interesting. It's just a reminder for a generation that 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.440 grew up with Jordan, but the new generation that I'm 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.360 curious how the new generation consuming Jordan is going to 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.680 feel about this. If you're under the age of twenty 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.360 five and you're watching this, when it's all said and done, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.320 how do you feel about Jordan? Now? To me, it's 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.480 just that reminder of who he was, that personality. Then 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.520 you'd start to find out what was going on with 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.239 a team that started out I think eight and seven 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.840 that last year they were together, and Jerry Krouse gets 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.440 a lot of blame. Jerry Kraus is probably the villain 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.720 in the first two episodes, but understand this, and Jerry 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.480 Krause is not alive. Jerry Krause has no one speaking 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:04.880 for him. But Jerry Krause did do his job. You 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.880 can say, how could you break up the bulls? Okay, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.560 he probably looked at this economically and said, Michael's gonna 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.760 want thirty three million Scotty in the last year of 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.000 his deal. Now he's going to want a new deal. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.520 He's gonna want to get twenty million, and he got injured. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.720 He missed the first thirty five games with the foot injury. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.640 He was actually right in some ways on can I 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.440 keep this team together? You never knew about Dennis Rodden. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.920 You knew Ku Coach was a real talent. You knew 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.200 Pippen had a problem, that Ku Coach had become maybe 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.760 the Coach's pet, the GM's pet. But Jerry Krause found 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.280 all of these guys. Michael Jordan falls into their lap. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:58.000 He on draft day swaps Olden Polonies for Scottie Pippen, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:02.720 who was out of Central Arkansas. He makes a trade 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.200 where he says, I'm going to send Will Purdue a 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.400 way to get Dennis Rodman in return. But he also 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.720 drafted Ku Coach, and he waited for Ku Coach to 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.839 come over to the United States. He brought in Phil Jackson. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.440 Phil Jackson was with the Albany Patroons of the CBA. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.120 I don't I met Jerry Krause, and if we had conversations, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:35.520 I don't remember anything. He wasn't somebody that you gravitated towards. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.880 I think that there was an ego of I've always 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.320 picked on you know, your star player is calling you 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.720 crumbs because you always had crumbs from your lunch on 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.120 your jacket or your pants. He was not well liked, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.919 but he was respected by the owner, Jerry Reinsdorf. But 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.760 he had to make a decision. And at the time, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.200 I remember going, how is the owners siding with the 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.839 GM over the coach. I got the greatest player and 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.680 great maybe the greatest coach of all time certainly in 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.400 the conversation, but he's going to side with one over 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:18.560 twelve fourteen players coaches because that's what they did. He 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 was going to take the wrecking ball to this and 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.200 it wasn't going to be something where you sort of 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.840 ease out of being the greatest team or a dynasty. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.839 They took the wrecking ball to it, like it was done. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.800 I loved Jordan's loyalty to Phil Jackson. I loved it 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.320 because it's rare where you have that reciprocation, you have 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.359 that respect. And Mike said, hey, I'm not playing for 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.000 anybody other than Phil Jackson. But there are a lot 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.720 of different pieces there and you're just getting you're you're 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.839 dipping your toes into this. Wait till you get to 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:59.000 around six, maybe six or seven that those episodes, then 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.280 you're going to get the four old storm here. You're 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.320 gonna understand the magnitude. You're gonna understand the competitiveness, you 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.479 understand the greatness there. I saw where ESPN had a 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.960 poll question today and it was greatest basketball player of 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.280 all time Michael Jordan or Lebron James. I go, no, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.680 I don't think you do that today. That might not 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.640 be fair to Lebron today or the next couple of weeks, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.120 the next couple of mondays after this. Don't do that. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.320 Not fair to Lebron. I'm watching this and I'm thinking 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:34.200 one thing, and it'll surprise you. Michael Jordan is still 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.920 ghosting Lebron James. Lebron should be playing in the playoffs, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.320 maybe get another championship. Then he's got four. Now, all 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.919 of a sudden, we have a little bit more of 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.560 a conversation. Lebron's got to sit there just like us 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.640 and watch this. As you know, we want to make 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.520 sure that we rub it in. You're seeing somebody who 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:01.159 is unlike anybody else we've ever seen. You have the 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.560 timing with this which makes it so interesting. They moved 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.480 this up now, they were going to have it in June. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.360 Imagine if you had this in June while Lebron is 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.600 trying to play for a championship. This documentary is not 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.080 even done yet, and we talked to the director last week. 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 He said, I got a couple of them on the 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.000 two yard line and a couple in the red zone here, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.440 but we're going to get it all done. You know. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.800 They sped it up to get it out in front 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:31.600 of us. And Michael legacy will grow because of this 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.720 because all it does is reinforce what we already knew. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.880 But the new generation who and I don't know. I 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.480 was also wondering about this. Is there going to be 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:46.440 a documentary on a team and or player twenty years 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.760 from now, twenty two years from now? Where you go? Yeah, 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.720 they were fascinating. God, I love them. Man, that was amazing. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.840 Oh you had all that in fighting. They still do. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.760 Now you're gonna say, maybe the Patriots. I don't think 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.520 the Patriots are interesting to people because I got a 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.559 coach who doesn't talk. I have a quarterback who doesn't 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.800 want to say anything negative. The only people would be 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.760 interesting are the people behind the scenes or secondary players 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.440 who might give you some cracks in the armor here, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.120 but I don't find that. I don't think the Patriots 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:27.880 are interesting. The Bulls were fascinating. Fascinating because I had 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:33.360 a zen Master is the coach who's six ten. I 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.440 had Rodman, who I didn't know what he was going 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.560 to dress like. I didn't know if he was going 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:43.080 to go crazy again. I had Jordan, who we didn't 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.720 know how great Mike could be. We knew he wanted 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.240 to be the best player of all time, and he 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.760 said that, hey, I want to be the great. There 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.319 was never where Michael goes. Yeah, I'm okay with being 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.000 a top five player. He wanted to be the greatest. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.400 I've always found Scotty interesting because I found that he 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:05.720 was really shy, incredibly talented, but I also thought that 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:12.280 he felt like he was undervalued, underappreciated because he was 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.000 in Mike shadow. But because of Michael, Scotty became one 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.920 of the great players of all time. If Scotty is 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.480 on his own, I don't think Scottie Pippens one of 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.560 the fifty greatest players of all time. Just don't wonderful player. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.840 But when he went on his own to Houston in Portland, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.760 and he wasn't healthy, he wasn't great, but what he 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.120 did when he was there with Michael was incredible. They 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.760 were a great tandem, unbelievable tandem there. So you start 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.640 to look at these players, the relationships there. I think 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.040 Jerry Reinsdorff comes out of this with no blood on 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.040 his hands. The owner. It's almost like he's going like 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:55.120 Robert Kraft with Tom Brady. Hey, we wanted Tommy to stay. Okay, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:10:00.439 the blood's on Belichick and not Robert Kraft. But it 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.120 brought me back into a sweet spot when I was 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.960 thrilled doing Sports Center. Got to cover the Chicago Bulls, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.360 got to be there for Sports Center, got to interview 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.199 these guys after they were winning championships. Went to management 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.560 to say to my boss, I am going to do 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.480 those interviews next year because I was witnessing something that 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.240 I'd never seen before. I wanted to be part of history. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.480 That's what it came down to. And Mark Jones love him, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.680 but I went to management and said, I want Mark 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.520 Jones's job interviewing Michael Jordan after he wins these championships. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.080 I voted on all these awards, I voted for Jordan 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.920 I think six or seven consecutive years for MVP, even 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.040 when others had a better regular season and full transparency, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.199 I should have voted for Carl Malone or Charles Barkley 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.840 because they did have better seasons regular seasons. It always 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.319 came down to one question, who's going to win the idol. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.920 Mike went through Barkley, went through Malone when they won MVPs. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.840 In fact, I think Michael loved the fact that Charles 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.080 won an MVP and Malone won an MVP so he 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.560 could say, oh, you think they're the MVPs, watch me. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:20.240 He was motivated by everything anybody and the fact that 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.520 you're going to go into a situation where you go, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.680 what's my motivation here? I don't know if I have 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.720 a motivation. He just waited. He wanted to be told 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.200 you can't do it, the odds aren't in your favor, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.439 and of course, being a gambler, he loved that. But 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.040 it was wonderful, you know, it really was. It was 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:44.600 a magical time. And I said this last week. Nobody 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.400 criticized Jordan. I mean, they had they whispered about Mike, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.079 you know, off the court with things he was doing. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.040 But but you really didn't have You didn't have social media. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.280 Even now, you don't find people who criticized Michael Jordan. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.880 You know, basketball ability. You don't find anybody who says 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.679 anything bunny right Lebron. It's it's always been day to day, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.040 game to game, almost quarter to quarter. But this is 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.800 a whole different world when it comes to the media, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.440 how we approach what we can say, say it in 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.559 real time. Other people can chime in on this, go viral. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.680 But I know that I said my piece about Lebron, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.480 although I do want to edit what I said. I 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:31.320 said better score than Michael all around, I should have 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.440 said better offensive force. From the standpoint of he can 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.400 play five positions on offense and he can be I mean, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.320 he's going to finish second in the MVP race this 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.520 year at his age, and he's going to lead the 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:50.520 league and assist. So I think, you know, Lebron's ability 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.200 to be able to create offense for everybody is better 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.320 than Michael's. Michael, as far as a cold bloody score, yes, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.560 better than Lebron. But an offensive force, Lebron is able 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.320 to do a variety of things. And I know what 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.280 happens is you take something away from somebody or give 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.839 somebody a little bit more credit than they deserve. And 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:19.360 that's always dangerous because people record these things. People remind 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.880 you of things that you say, as I had some 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.120 people who reminded me over the weekend. Wait, you think 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:28.600 Lebron's a better score like people just walking around? Yeah, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.040 well six feet away right? Hey, hey, talking hair? Do 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.319 you think that what Lebron I'd be like? He's a 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.760 better offensive force from what he does. He makes people better. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.640 Michael made you better by scaring the bleep out of you. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.600 You get the look, and that meant you weren't getting 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.920 the ball. Judd Bushler, Steve Kerr, those guys would always say, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.560 you never wanted to look. If you got the look, 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.200 you're in trouble. But I can't wait for people, a 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.120 new generation to consume this and then what are their 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.480 feelings on Mike After that, it's only gonna it's only 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.440 gonna raise his you know, the the awareness of being 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.079 the greatest player of all time, and there's a certain 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.320 quality of you know, there's a mythological field towards Michael 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.080 because if you're younger, you're going, yeah, I see the video, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.680 but when you see all of this and NFL Film 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.840 or NBA Films did a wonderful NBA Entertainment did a 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.720 wonderful job getting access to all of this and stuff 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.720 that I didn't see. It's it's uh, it'll be a 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.000 fun ride. And of course we're, you know, chewing this 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.200 up because there's nothing else and it kind of put 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.920 the draft on pause just a little bit. But we'll 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.720 talk about that coming up, because the career assassination of 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.280 two a tongue of ioloa continues and is it a 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:51.040 conspiracy theory? Conspiracy theory, We're gonna know in a couple 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.000 of days here, all right, we'll come up with a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.200 poll question. I got a stat of the day, Play 0:14:55.240 --> 0:15:00.480 of the day, Jimmy, and Chicago joins us. Hey, Jimmy, Hey, 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.360 Then you were talking to the younger generation. Um looking 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.760 at Jordan, and I think that you have you would 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.680 have to be growing up in that time, the time 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.560 that he played, watching the games, being able to go 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.240 to one of the games that I was fortunate to 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.280 go in ninety eight, and the funny thing is watching 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.720 at the United Center. The one play that I remember 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.640 from that entire game was a breakaway dunk that he did. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.560 He literally did the Jumpman logo for the Dune, but 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.240 that's just that, just sixs with me um. But the 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.480 way he did it in the nineties, the physicality of 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.680 that decade, just the way he played. You would have 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.360 to grow up in that time. So I think that 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.560 the younger generation will get something out of this documentary. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.040 But being able to live that time and the way 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.480 the time that he was playing, I think that's when 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.000 that's when you really understood Tom the greatness of them. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.160 So right, well, thanks for the phone called Jimmy. Yeah, 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:52.560 I think you're going to watch a game and you're 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.600 not going to recognize how the game is played back 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.920 then because it's completely different. Now we know that they 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.320 weren't reliant on the three it was it was really 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.400 a physical game and centers played a large role. Understand this. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.880 The Bulls would have taken a chem Elige one instead 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.160 of Michael Jordan. They said it in the documentary. Everybody 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.520 can say what they want about Michael Jordan. Oh, we 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.720 all knew. Rod Thorne, who drafted him, didn't know. You 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.720 could see the embryonic stages of greatness when you watched Michael. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.600 But you know Portland doesn't take Michael Jordan because they 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.160 had Clyde Drexeler. Back then you were you were drafting 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:37.720 for position. Nowadays you'd go, yeah, Clyde Direxeler and Michael 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.720 Jordan together. Hell yeah, Hey, we're not going to take 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.960 Clay Thompson. We have a shooter in Steph Curry. That 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.360 might be the logic back then, but certainly not the 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.600 logic now. Michael was there, A Keem was the one, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.840 and then Sam Booie, but a chem was the real deal. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.240 Like a came to I would have taken a number 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:06.159 one over Michael and then Michael. You know, Sam Booie 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.360 had injury issue. You know he was a little bit 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.520 you know, he was frail and yah, hey but we 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.400 got our big man. You don't think that way now, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.480 you take you take Michael. Well, if we redrafted, you 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.160 would take Mike, but it keeps the first ballot Hall 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.400 of Famer and one of the great centers, great players 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.960 of all time. You know, it'd be interesting, But obviously 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.640 you take Mike. 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And they capped him at 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:42.119 seven minutes a half and I'd never heard that that 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.959 the management a quarter of a quarter was I think 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.879 it was seven a quarter? Okay. They told stan Albeck 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:50.840 that if you play him more than that seven minutes. 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.600 When it hit seven, like almost a buzzer would go off, 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.160 and someone was told to stand outBut to pull him 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.320 and they told him you'll be fired. The next day 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.200 there was a game where there was fourteen seconds left, 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.520 they were down one and they took Michael Jordan out 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.159 with fourteen secon of stuff and they show the footage. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.320 It's unbelievable footge of him on the bench. He looks 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:10.960 like he's going to have a fit. He really is 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.199 having a fit. And they and somehow Paxson gets a 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.840 game winner. But he says they locked the door and 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.440 they were really mad. He said Michael never got over 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.639 that with management. Well, they were trying to protect Michael 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.840 from Michael with his foot and you know, looking at 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.600 this with the long haul, you know, Michael talks about 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.960 when he and Jerry reinsdor If, the owner, sat down 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.840 and they were telling him, look, you got a broken foot, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.600 coming back from a broken foot. Here are the odds. 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.240 Here's what both of those parties had to say. Michael asked, well, 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.720 if I play, what percentage is there I'm going to 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.800 get hurt again. Doctors said ten percent, and I just 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.080 lost it. I said, look, it's ten percent chance, but 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.360 it's ninety percent chance that I won't. And then I've 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.320 chimed in the doctors what happens if the ten percent 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.720 kicks in? And they said, well, then his career would 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.200 be all well, everybody's just thinking about the negative. Well, 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.080 I think the glasses half full. Everybody think it is 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.080 half empty. So I said to Michael, you're not understanding 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.400 the risk reward ratio. If you had a terrible headache 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.840 and I gave you a bottle of pills and nine 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:18.560 of the pills would kure you and one of the 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.880 pills would kill you, would you take a pill? Look 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.440 at him, I said, it depends on how bad headaches. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.320 It's not a glass half four, glass half empty. It's 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.280 a glass that's ninety percent full or ninety percent empty. 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.240 In his mind setan what stood out to you, Well, 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.760 you know, sort of to echo a little bit what 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.080 you said in the first segment, but just how much 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:48.639