1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. I guess the bigger part of this 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: job is to educate people. It's to explain to them 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: what happens and why. The car Doctor. My memory is 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: most of those trucks steered fairly well. They weren't They 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: weren't terrible out of the factory. There were ways to 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: make them better, but they weren't terrible to begin with. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: So this is my second one. This was my second one, 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: and all. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: the phone and call in the garage doors. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Are opening, but I am here to take your call 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred. 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: And now he running. 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: Are you paying enough for repair? Are you? I mean, 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: are you being fair to yourself? Do you when you 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: look at a bill, is it always gee that was cheap, 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: that's great? 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 5: Or gee? 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Did I pay enough to know that they did the 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: job right, that somebody competent was working on it and 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: they put all the parts back and it's gonna work, 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: and it's gonna last, and they didn't hurt the vehicle. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Weird question, right. We had a new customer in the 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: shop this week. She came to us from another state 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: and just over the line, as a matter of fact, 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: in New York and Rockland County, and the repair shop 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: she was going to was doing forty two dollars oil changes, 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: not forty two dollars labor and then materials. Forty two 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: dollars oil changes on a twenty thirteen Infinity. How do 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: they make any money? Can they? What are they doing? 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: The oil is the oil and filter? If you're buying 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: something decent, is twenty five thirty bucks for twelve dollars. 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: You're standing there, you're lifting a car, You're you're looking 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: at things, you're road testing it, you're checking brakes, tires, 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: you're doing all the normal due diligence that you do 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: in an oil change. How could you not look at 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: that bill and say I didn't pay enough? Because I do. 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: I look at I go into restaurants and think, gee, 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: they're doing that too cheap. Is what kind of chicken 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: is that really? Or where'd that veel come from? You know? 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Or what kind of steak. Is that that that right 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: around the track and get with by the jockey and 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: then they put it into the pan three hours later. 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that? 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Right? 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: So it's just just food for thought as we kick 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: off today, and thanks for joining me. By the way, 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: the answer was, you know, the forty two dollars oil 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: change car. It was time for service and we did 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: our service. We do it. We do a formal checklist. 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: It's an hour shop time, and we go through and 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: we look at everything and we came up with a 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: couple of service items that this vehicle needed at sixty 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: thousand miles and one of them was a cabin filter. Now, 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: a cabin filter most cars is pretty simple. It's a 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: pretty basic thing. It's you know, sometimes it's five minutes, 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: sometimes it's fifteen twenty minutes. It's a little longer in 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: our world because we will go through and look at 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: the base of the windshield, the cawl area, and we'll 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: vacuum out the pine needles and the leaves and the 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: debris and all the stuff that you're breathing that because 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: that's the ear intake for the cabin filter, and that 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: somehow gets you know that not somehow but it gets 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: transferred down to the filter and it will clog the 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: filter and you're breathing it and making everything work harder. 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: So we'll go through due diligence and clean everything up. 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I guess the forty two dollars oil change place just 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered putting back all the screws because there 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: was about there was eight, No, there was nine. There 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: was nine screws that were supposed to hold the facea in, 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to hold the glove box in, to hold the cover 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: over the cabin filter. They got four of them in. 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. You know, they got 77 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: most of them. That's almost fifty percent. And then a 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: little ear of the case that they broke off so 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: at the flap door because it was duct taped on. 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I guess that sort of counts. It's it worked. What 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: does that forty two dollars oil change get you? Are 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: you paying enough for order repair? I challenge you to 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: ask that question, because it shouldn't be how much, it 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: should be how right? And I've told you this for years, 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this for a very long time. 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: You know. 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: It's real possible. I'm not saying it happens a lot, 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: but it's real possible that there is incompetence and order repair, 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and you can hide it, just like an inefficient carpenter 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: or plumber hides defects in the way they put the 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: wall up, or they run the pipes through the house, 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: or you know all the different things that they do. 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Are you paying too much for order repair? Are you 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: paying enough for order repair? That's the question today as 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: we kick off this hour by the way, somewhere this 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: hour maybe next Formula one Drive to Survive. We're giving 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: away a book. It's written by Stuart Codling. It's the 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: un official Companion or so it's Slay. It's available on Amazon, 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, Old usual places, Formula one Drive to Survive. 100 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: We'll be giving away a copy of that today here 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: on the Car Doctor, so you can look forward to that. 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: But right now, let's get to the phones. Let's go 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: to a return call for Mexico City and talk to 104 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Danny sixty seven plumbths valiant. How are you, Daniel. Good 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: to hear from you. 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, good to hear from you again. Ron Hodsonton, I'm good, 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 6: I'm good. 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 7: What's going on? 109 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 5: Well? 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: I was just wondering if I'm supposed to connect the 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 6: ballast for sister to my car's ignition system, you got 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 6: a pointless distributor and then an altarnic ignition. I replaced 113 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 6: the engine coil because the previous one got burned and 114 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: I got shortened out because well, I didn't have a 115 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 6: ballast resistor in the first place. So I learned my 116 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 6: lesson and I put in a new one. 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: But it's supposed to. 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 6: Be like a reinforced coil, so to speak with the 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 6: build can resistance already with a one point four armed resistance, 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: And I was wondering if I'm supposed to, like I 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: still connect a ballast resistor, like you know, from the 122 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 6: ignition switch to the coil, and if it's not necessary, 123 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 6: like would you heard it to connect the ballast resistor 124 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 6: even if the has one to begin with. 125 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: It's a great question. You're asking the wrong guy, But 126 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, all right. So let's talk about 127 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: what that ballast resistor does or did back in the day, 128 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: all right, When you went to crank that sixty seven 129 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Plymouth Valiant back when it was new, when you were 130 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: in crank mode as the starter is cranking the engine, 131 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: that ballast resistor was bypassed, okay, And you apply to 132 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: full twelve vaults to the coil, and you gave it 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: that momentary hot spark to fire a cold, wet engine 134 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: so to speak, when it's harder, and then to lengthen 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: or have longevity of ignition points life. They cut down 136 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the voltage once the engine was running by then channeling 137 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: voltage to the positive side of the coil to the 138 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: ballast resistor or through the ballast resistor. All right, that's 139 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: its whole purpose. If you've got electronic ignition, the question 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: becomes whose electronic ignition is it? And how did they 141 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: design it? Do they want a full voltage coil feed 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: on the other side or are they looking for a 143 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: voltage reduction as well? And and that's a question for them. 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Is the coil? Is the coil rated for that electronic 145 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: ignition system or is it rated for the Plymouth Valiant. 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 6: Well, it's a generic coil so to speak. What I 147 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 6: can tell you is that the ignition module, uh is 148 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: a multi one. It's a it's a document, okay, So. 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: I would have to say that it's it's I don't 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: see where it's going to hurt anything, because you're going 151 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: to if it's if it's an internal resistance coil, you're 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: going to see a voltage reduction on the negative side, 153 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: which goes to the electronic control module. All Right, it 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: may not perform as well as it should, and that's 155 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: that's the next question. So what I would do is 156 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: if it's when you say Electric Chrysler electronic ignition, you're 157 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: talking about, it's the square box that was bolted to 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the firewall with the three wire pentastar plug with the 159 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: bolt down the center. 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's the mon Yeah, yeah, I got a 161 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 6: four PM a four pen harness. 162 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Okay, then I would I would simply go look up 163 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, there was a variety of those what after 164 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: seventy five, seventy six. I would go look up a 165 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: standard coil for that and see how it's rated. Did 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: they want resistance to it or not? And I would 167 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: just get a coil for that, and then at least 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: you match the coil to the ignition control module, because 169 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: that's that's the key, all right. You know, not having 170 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: that resistance there may overload the ignition control module. They 171 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: may have it set up, maybe they bypassed the resistance 172 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: value or alter the resistance value through the electronic ignition module. 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I looked at one of those, truthfully, 174 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: but you know, it's they still might be looking for 175 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the same technology when the engine is cold or wet, 176 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: and then once it warms up or once it's they 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: they lower voltage to the control module or what to 178 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: what would have been the points in the condenser. So 179 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: I would just want to know the answer to that 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: question before you, you know, just continue to use it 181 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: because you may shorten the life of the control module. 182 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: Oh so it's not the engine coil that's as big 183 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 6: yourself of the thefinition module as well. 184 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: I would I would, I would believe. So I've seen 185 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: it where they bypassed and they ran and I don't 186 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: know how much the the You know, you could run 187 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: twelve vaults to a coil if the coil is rated 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: for it. Again, it depends on how that coil is 189 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: wound and what it's rated for. So, like I said, 190 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: great questions, you know it's it's it's got to be 191 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: geared based around the electronic ignition control module. What's the 192 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: correct module for that? And I don't think that's I 193 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be that hard to diet to 194 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: look up. I would think there's applications all over the 195 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: net talking about you know, if you're using this module, 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: here's the part number for the coil. Do you have 197 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,479 Speaker 1: a part number on that coil that you're using. 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 6: Well, actually I have it. I have the you know 199 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: the bus that that it came in eight one four 200 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 6: oh C by Axel. 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the name, yeah, the number in the name is 202 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: not familiar. I would is it a current Are they 203 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: a current company? Are they still in business? Uh? 204 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they are actually called up their customer 205 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 6: heard is hotline and ask them the same question, and 206 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: uh they answered that, well, it all depended on the distributor, 207 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: you know, whether it was a pointless distributor or you know, 208 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 6: the one with a point and condenser. Right, And well, 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 6: I've got I've got the pointless unit. I was to 210 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: create it because well it originally came out of the 211 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 6: factory with points and condenser. 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 7: Right. 213 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: So they're right there, Well, an electronic cognition. So they're 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: reading the script, all right, we want somebody that doesn't 215 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: read the script. We want somebody that sits there and says, hey, 216 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: we did an electronic ignition. Listen, my old office manager, 217 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Lou had a sixty three Valiant. I converted it to 218 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: electronic ignition, and if I'm not mistaken, we left the 219 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: ballast resistor in the vehicle. And I just don't remember 220 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: what coil we used. It was twenty years ago, you know. 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I took his points distributor and I converted it to 222 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: electronic ignition. I put a reluctor on it, and you know, 223 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I made the conversion myself, and I just don't remember 224 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: what coil I used, But I just remember going back 225 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: and making sure that I had a coil rated for 226 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: a Chrysler electronic ignition, because that's the key as long 227 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: as it has that. And I believe some of the 228 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: later model Chryslers in the mid to late seventies still 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: had ballast resistors on the firewall. So you may be 230 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: fine just like you are. But I would just look 231 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: at this as a the first year that particular module 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: showed up, and I'm going to say seventy five, seventy six, 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and just see what coil they rate that as, and 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: does that coil have a one point four OM resistor? 235 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Putting the ballast resistor inside as well, and I think you'll. 236 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 6: Be fine, yeah, yeah, but I think just to err 237 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 6: on the side of cause, and it wouldn't hurt to 238 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 6: put it on any ballast resist there just just for well. 239 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: You could, but then you're gonna then you're gonna drop 240 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: the voltage to the coil even more. No, if it's 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: a one point four, you're saying that the resistance is 242 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the resistor is already in the coil, or it's a 243 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: it's a resistor rated coil. Which is it. 244 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a resistance uh, embedded into the coil like 245 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 6: it's got the field in resistance one pint. 246 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you what, Danny. Sit tight, let me 247 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: pull over, take a pause. I'm running, lad I'll be 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: back right after this. 249 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 7: Don't go with. 250 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: God good time. 251 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Ride it on the wall so you don't forget to 252 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: call for car advice. 253 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: Done right? 254 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 255 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: Now back to raw, Danny. Are you still there in 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Mexico City? 257 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still here. 258 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's what I want you to do. Let's 259 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: cut to the chase. You ever hear a standard motor 260 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: products not really standard motor products in the States was 261 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: one of the bigger ignition providers August since the twenties, 262 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: all right, and I know they have a great online catalog. 263 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: I use it in the shop, you know, just look 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: up standard motor products and it will bring you to 265 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: their online catalog. Pick out a I don't know, let's 266 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: make it. Let's make it a seventy seven Chrysler New 267 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: Yorker with a V eight and electronic ignition. They're probably 268 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: going to tell you, if I remember right, the coil 269 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: part number was United Charlie. You see twelve or you 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: see twelve x X being the heavy duty version, And 271 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct, you're gonna see stamped all 272 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: right on the outside of that coil used with external resistor, 273 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: meaning the one point four OAM resistor. All right. The 274 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: fact that your coil says one point four OM resistor 275 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: on the inside. And again it's just a little bit 276 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: of a gray area because I'm not familiar with the brand. 277 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: But if they're saying it has the resistor built in, 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: then that has the ballast register already in the system. 279 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: They've eliminated that part. So the question goes back to 280 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the to the coil provider. Does this have the ballast 281 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: resistor built in? Is that what you're saying to us? 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 6: All right, yeah, yes, that's what I'm saying. That's what 283 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 6: I was by the manufacturing, right, So just put on 284 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 6: their website. 285 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: As well, right, put a put a, put a uh 286 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: an a meter across. It doesn't register one point four oms? Right, 287 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: what's the resistance of the coil and then compare that. 288 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a standard coil and non the ballast 289 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: resistor built in coil around? Compare that to that resistance value? 290 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 291 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a spare one here. 292 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, if if they both read the same, then 293 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: how do they get that one point four OM rating? 294 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I would ask that question, but I don't think this 295 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: is that complicated. I think I think I think you're 296 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: overthinking this yet. A second question? What was it? 297 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? What are your thoughts on a possible cause to 298 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 6: the passenger rear wheel side I'm sorry, the passenger side 299 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 6: rear wheel overheating on me. I don't think it's the brakes. 300 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: I don't think they're dragging because when I when I 301 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 6: lifted the car up on the jack, I spun the 302 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 6: wheel and it and it turned a couple of turns. 303 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's the bearing and they just 304 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: replaced the bearing because I took the car to the 305 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 6: shop just to have the axle seel replaced because it 306 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 6: was leaking oil, your oil. But then they told me 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 6: that they actually replaced ended up replacing the wheel bearing 308 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 6: as well, because they, according to them, I can have 309 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 6: like the the you know, the right bearing installed. So 310 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 6: they changed out the bearing and the next thing I 311 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 6: know that you know, the wheels overheating quite a bit, 312 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: you know, after like you know, ten twenty miles of 313 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 6: driving it. 314 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, is that a is that a tapered style bearing, Danny? 315 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Or was that a square rolling? 316 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: I think it was the this that's quare a little type. 317 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Okay. So the bearing, the bearing is the bearing is 318 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: pressed into the housing and then the axle goes in 319 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: after that, or the bearing is pressed onto the axle 320 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: and then slid in. 321 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 6: To the second the second scenario, it did the bearing 322 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: pressed into the axle and then the axle just leading 323 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 6: into the housing. 324 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Okay. So if when you say it's overheating, how do 325 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you know it's overheating because the wheel doesn't want to turn? Wow? 326 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 6: Because it's hot to the touch. It actually burned my 327 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 6: hand a little bit. 328 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Where were you touched Where were you touching? 329 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: I was actually touching the wheel, and I also touched 330 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 6: the peep up the axle, which is actually well which 331 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: actually comes out of the wheel. It was actually a 332 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 6: little bit hotter than the wheel itself. 333 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: What if you put the car up on jack stands, 334 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: took the wheel and the drum off on that side, 335 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and put it in gear and just let it run 336 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: for twenty miles? What gets hot? Right? 337 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 6: Oh? Oh yeah, that sounds smarty. I haven't thought of that. 338 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: Just let's let's let's break it down. You know, we 339 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: do we have or do we have a break that's dragging? 340 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Do we have a wheel cylinder that's expanding from heat 341 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: for some reason? Do we have a break cable that's 342 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: that's somehow applying the parking break, You know, there's a 343 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of factors here. But try that. 344 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Just obviously make sure you secure and get it up 345 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: on jack stand Do you want to take the wheel 346 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: off the other side, secure the drum on the other 347 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: side with a lug nut, just to make sure. But 348 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: a bad bearing, a bad bearing getting too hot should 349 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: make some noise. And I'm not hearing you say that. 350 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: So you got some homework to dude, Daniel, you need more. 351 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: You know where I'm at. I'll be here for you, kiddo, 352 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: and good luck. Keep me posted eight by five five 353 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero running any of the 354 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: car Doctor, I'll be back right after this. 355 00:17:47,720 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 7: Don't go away. 356 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back running the car Doctor. Here, let's get over 357 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: to Gus and Miami twenty one Toyota Highland or Hybrid. Gus, 358 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. How can I help? 359 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, how are you. 360 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: Good? 361 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 5: I had a question about fuel system cleaning, and I 362 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 5: wanted to get your advice on fuel system cleaning for 363 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: both standard port you know, induction engines and for engines 364 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: that are direct injection. The twenty twenty one Highlander actually 365 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: has both systems direct and for infections. So I'd like 366 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: to know. I want to be able to ask the 367 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: right questions because I also have another Prius that's regular 368 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: you know, on not direct induction, and I want to 369 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 5: ask the right questions about fuel system cleanings, fessional fuel 370 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 5: system cleaning. That uh, I'm a mechanic, gotcha? 371 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, let me let's talk port fuel first. So 372 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: traditional port fuel injection as defined has the fuel injector 373 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: shooting fuel behind the intake valve, so it's it's always 374 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: sprits in the valve. The valve opens and goes the cleaner, 375 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: all right, the combustion process takes place, so forth and 376 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: so on, like it's like it has for so many years. 377 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: The great thing about that style is that you're you're 378 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: always spraying fuel cleaner on the back of the valve, 379 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: so you're always washing the valve as well as the seat, 380 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: you know, the whole valve area there as well as 381 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: you're running cleaner through the injector to help cut down 382 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: any varnishing contabinant that's built up in there. And then 383 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: it goes into the cylinder to clean piston top and 384 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: then take tract and so on. In recent years, most 385 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: of the manufacturers went to a and I'm giving it 386 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: the you know with my finger, yeah right, the you 387 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: know clog free or clog resistance style fuel injector. They 388 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: claim they don't build up or you know, they've changed 389 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: the style, ball and seat design, they've changed the penttal design. 390 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: They've put a lot of you know, man hours into 391 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: changing how it's you know, sprits and fuel such that 392 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: we're not so worried about that anymore clogging injectors, as 393 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: we just want to get the cleaner through it. So 394 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: you could take instead of hooking to the fuel rail, 395 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: you could do and a fuel system fogging fogg I 396 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: n G. Where you would on a port fuel injected 397 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: vehicle you would get some sort of a spray tapped 398 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: into a main vacuum source such as the PC vehos 399 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: such as the purge port from evapp something like that, 400 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: where it will take and it will spread that cleaner 401 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: throughout the intake. It will fog through the intake all right, 402 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and then be drawn into the engine, you know, pass 403 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the valve and clean. Obviously in that process you're missing 404 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: the injector. Then they came along with you. Direct injection, 405 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: all right. Direct injection, just like its name implies, The 406 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: injector sprays fuel right into the cylinder. It bypasses the 407 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: intake valve and it goes into the cylinder at the 408 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: right moment. And one of the nice advantages of direct fuel, 409 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: and there's a few of them, is they can now 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: just the way they alter ignition timing by cylinder, they 411 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: can alter fuel delivery timing by cylinder. They have that 412 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: control the disadvantage to this is it never hits the 413 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: back of the intake valve, so and in some cases 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: it'll never really get to the crud that's building up 415 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: on top of the piston because they've extended a studies show, 416 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: they've extended oil change intervals, and what happens is the 417 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: oil gets thinner and breaks down from mileage, it seeps 418 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: its way past the rings, it collects on top of 419 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the piston. Heat and fire and combustion process tends to 420 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: create carbon, and we now have carbon deposit issues. You know. 421 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: It's it's It's funny. The more we try to escape 422 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: from it, the more predominant the problem has become. So 423 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: what's the best way to solve all this? I'm going 424 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: to tell you right off the bat, A good tank 425 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: additive on a regular basis is sort of like taking 426 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that vitamin shot every day. 427 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 5: And I do. I do that, and I do run 428 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 5: certified top tier. You know, I'm just kind of I've 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 5: heard horror stories of GDI, So I do run you know, 430 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: certified top tier, and I do run you know, the 431 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: tank right added it. But I'd like to, you know, 432 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: eventually down the road. I mean, it's still only got 433 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 5: twenty thousand miles. But down the road I will get 434 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: a professional field cleaning, but I just don't want to 435 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: get railroaded it. 436 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: And you know, tell me right. 437 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: To me if I have the option. It's also it's 438 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: also about accessibility. I'll say it like this, And I 439 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: went through this, and I developed this on a twenty 440 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: fourteen Escape because it was one of the first vehicles 441 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: in the family direct injection, and I could play with 442 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: it a little bit on my own time. When I 443 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: do a fuel system cleaning on a fourteen Escaper, I 444 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: should say on the Escapes because they are GDI direct injection. 445 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: It was a two step process. I ran cleaner through 446 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: the fuel rail, all right, just to go through the injector, 447 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: even though I'm not convinced I was really helping the 448 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: injector per se, because Ford's one of the one of 449 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: the many that claim, you know, clog free injectors. But 450 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: then I also fog the intake. I would take off 451 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: the purge line going down by the throttle body. That's 452 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: a two step process. I figured it out go ahead. 453 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: That would get fogging, would get the back of the vale. 454 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: I guess right, right, yeah, you know, I figured it 455 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: out you know, to do it right at a retail 456 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: level for a customer, it's about five hundred bucks, you know, 457 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: just just time and material because you think about it, 458 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: you're using two cans of a detergent cleaner, all right, 459 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: You're using you're using it takes twice as much time, 460 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: if you know, if a typical fuel system retails one 461 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred bucks, now you're doing 462 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: it twice. So yeah, you know it's it's but nobody's 463 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: yeah now. So now in your case, I don't know 464 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: because I haven't played with a twenty one with with 465 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: PFI and direct injection yet, right, you know, I'd have 466 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: to think about how I would want to do it. 467 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: You know, when I do a fuel system cleaning, the 468 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: other thing I will do is I will hook up 469 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: a scan tool and I will watch cat temperature, and 470 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: I will look at some of the other indicators. I 471 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: will look at fuel trim, I will look at some 472 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: of the other items that are going to be affected 473 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: by a more efficient engine to decide, you know, is 474 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: what I did working? All right? I just don't want 475 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: to take it as a blanket result until I know 476 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: for sure what the effects are. So I would always 477 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: do it that way. I think my concern would be 478 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: what I would try to do is to get into 479 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: the port fuel side of your system, not so much 480 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: for cleaning the injectors, but to have direct spray on 481 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: the intake valves. And then I know that that would 482 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: get to the piston top. And I would also want 483 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: to point out, because we tend to forget this, that 484 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: on modern engines, to make sure the PCB the crank 485 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: case ventilation system is working properly, because you know, if 486 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: there's an error, by the time we find that, it's 487 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles later and the damage has done, the 488 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: carbon build up is there, and you know we've got 489 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: the issue. And for the record, before I before I 490 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: forget gus, you got twenty thousand on this car. I'd 491 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: definitely do a fuel system cleaning by thirty. 492 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 7: And I wouldn't. 493 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. You wouldn't have to twist my arm. They 494 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: get me to do it at twenty five. 495 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: Okay, So I'll take that overay and let me let 496 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: me let me just tag tag back on what frequency 497 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 5: would you use tank additive every tank, every other tank 498 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 5: once you know ten tanks, and and do you have 499 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: a recommendation on brand or you know, if. 500 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: You can find it, if you can find it. I 501 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: really like the stuff from Berryman, all right. Not not 502 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: because they're a sponsor, all right. Listen, we were using 503 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Berriman before they became a sponsor. You know, it's it's 504 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: and I always say it like this, you know, tank editor, 505 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaner is you're buying the company's attack and 506 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: current state of technology, what they're prepared to deal with. 507 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, A lot a lot of a lot of 508 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: the companies I think have state status quo over time. Berryman, 509 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: to me is always exploring everything I read. They're always 510 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: trying harder. You can go to their website Berrimanproducts dot 511 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: com and they've got this really great video where they 512 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: they line up all the current fuel system cleaners in 513 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: the marketplace and they pour them into a styrofoam cup. 514 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it in a while. I think 515 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: it's still there and it's kind of funny, right Berryman 516 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: with hest will actually dissolve the styrofoam cup where everybody 517 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: else doesn't. So you know, if it can dissolve styrofoam, 518 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: I think it can dissolve carbon and uh, you know 519 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: you're you're paying for that technology. I have had some 520 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: excess as far as distribution finding Berryman either at an 521 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: Advanced Auto parts or online at Amazon, and both of 522 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: those seem to have a real good distribution. But you know, yeah, 523 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: I like I like Berryman. Berryman is a great product. 524 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate I appreciate the vice, and I'll definitely, I 525 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 5: definitely will be doing that field system cleaning. You know, 526 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: not a huge fan of the g d I and 527 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: not a huge fan of having two systems complicating. 528 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: It, but it just it just mean and and you 529 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: know what if you if you can't find Berryman, tech 530 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Ron is good too. T E C H R O N. 531 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Tech Ron is a good stand in. I still use 532 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: that when I can't find Berryman. It's a it's a 533 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: good product as well. So yeah, yep, so but you're 534 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: on the right track, Hitter, You're doing the right things, 535 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: You're asking the right questions top tier and how to 536 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: do it. So I think if you follow that advice, 537 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: you'll be just fine. If you got more, you can 538 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: give me a call back. I'm on an ady in 539 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll return right after this. M welcome back. 540 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Running in the car doctor here. Let's uh, let's go 541 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: over and talk to Steve and Maryland. Steve, welcome back, sir. 542 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: How are you today? 543 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing five? 544 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: So what's going on today? 545 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a a Toyota Tacoma twenty thirteen truck 546 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: that has a four cylinder engine. It's ten years and 547 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: seven months old, and the manual says change the anti 548 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: freeze at one hundred thousand miles or ten years. Well, 549 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I've got thirty eight thousand miles on it, but I've 550 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: got I've got ten years seven months, so it's time 551 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: to change the anti freeze. 552 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Correct. 553 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: My question is I'll probably get the Toyota top of 554 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: the line anti freeze to put in, and I guess 555 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: I'll flush it with distilled water. Please tell me after 556 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: we're after I describe my situation, please tell me if 557 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: you you think I should flush it with distilled water 558 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: or whatever. And the second thing is, I'm thinking I've 559 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: got hoses and belts that are ten years old on 560 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: the cooling system. Should I also replace those? And I've 561 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: squeezed the hoses. They all seem like they're okay, and 562 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: they're all original. I've never had any any trouble with 563 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: anything on the truck. But I'm just trying to perform 564 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: the PMCs on it like I should. And what do 565 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: you think I should do? 566 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: So let's let's start with the cool on first, Stevie, 567 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: I think that you know what you want to do 568 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: with distilled water and all. You're not going to do 569 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: as effect of a job as someone that's hooking up 570 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: a coolant exchange machine, all right, because well, first of all, 571 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: where are're gonna where you're gonna put it all? You're 572 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna take the distilled water out of it and let 573 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: it run down the street, And you can't really put 574 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: coolant out into the environment. It's got to get recycled, 575 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: so that's bad for the environment. Number one. 576 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: Okay, well I would capture all the coolant. I have 577 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: no problem with that. And also on in decades past, 578 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: at least on my small block chevalets, there's a drain 579 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: plug on each side of the block. I don't know 580 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: if I have a drain plug on a four cylinder. 581 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: You should should, you should, and you could. But the 582 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: advantage of using a machine is it'll push it through 583 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: under moderate pressure and swirl up and pick up the crud. 584 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Whereas draining it, it's you know, you don't necessarily get 585 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: everything out. Even then, even doing a machine exchange, you're 586 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: never going to get one hundred percent contamin it out, 587 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: but you know you'll get up to ninety eight percent 588 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: or so. The average system does. Uh, the average machine does. 589 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm I mean you could try it your way, as 590 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: long as you're going to capture it. I don't want 591 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: to worry about the stilled water. I think that's a 592 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: little over the top. Frankly. Their concern is they're worried 593 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: about acidity. You know, if we wanted to measure it 594 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: and test it, I would tell you to get down 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: to your local Loto Parts store and ask them for 596 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: a coolant dip strip or a coolant acidity test strip, 597 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: which is nothing more than it's going to be three 598 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: little pieces of colored paper on a strip and it'll 599 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: show you the litmus content, or it might be two 600 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: at this point where it'll show you the acidity content 601 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: of the coolant. Because coolant, when it goes bad, it's 602 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: like apple cider. It turns hard, so to speak. So 603 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: you know that's what you're after. You want to try 604 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: and catch it before it turns hard. But the most 605 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: effective way to do it is with a machine. Doing 606 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: it with distilled water and capturing it. You could, but 607 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: you're never going to quite have the same result. But 608 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good second step method. I 609 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: want to point out I'm a small block Chevrolet guy 610 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: too from years gone by. You'll ever get it as 611 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: clean as you will with the machine as you're doing 612 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: draining everything. When I do the hot rod, I actually 613 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: hook the machine up and I do it that way, 614 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: which looks kind of weird because it's modern technology hooked 615 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: up to a seventy year old car. So that being set, 616 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: second question, hoses, You know, hoses are a funny thing 617 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: thirty eight thousand miles. You won't see it on the outside, 618 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: it's on the inside. I think the answer to the 619 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: second question comes about how much acidity does the coolant have? 620 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: For the first part, if you show the coolant is clean, 621 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: chances are you can get by another five years with 622 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: the hoses. But the question then becomes in five years, 623 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, I'm sorry, fifteen years old? Will you 624 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: be able to get hoses from Toyota for that anymore? 625 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: So you know it's a double edged sword. I get 626 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: it ten years. It's not the worst idea to change 627 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: all the belts and hoses. I absolutely agree with you, 628 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: But you know, can you get to it all? And 629 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: what do you have to take a part to do it? 630 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: This is a four cylinder, so it's in the back. 631 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Tell you what, stay put me. We'll ever take a pause. 632 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll finish up. I'm running aiding 633 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll return right after this. Welcome back, Steve. 634 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: You're still there, Yes, sir, I got another way to 635 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: attack this. Yeah, let's do all the hoses, all right, 636 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: I sat here thinking about it. You know what, Let's 637 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: do all the hoses first. I'll first find out and 638 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: maybe I misunderstood you. You want to combine if the 639 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Toyota coolant you purchase over the counter is straight and 640 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: you have to mix it, you want to use distilled water. 641 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: Correct, right, But I'll go ahead and get the pre deluded. 642 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: But I wanted to flush the engine with distilled water. 643 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: If you think I should do that or just use regular, 644 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: I got a well. 645 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: Because I think it's going to be too hard. You know, 646 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: you want to run it through a hose and run 647 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: some pressure through it. So I think it's going to 648 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: be too hard to get the stilled water to come 649 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: out at the end of a hose. I'm not sure 650 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: how you would do that. 651 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, set up a s at the end of hose. 652 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean. 653 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, in other words, when you say flush it, how 654 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: are you going to flush it? Right? Put some distilled 655 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: water in the system and run it that. Yeah, that, 656 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: you know what. Open up all the drains, open up 657 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: the heater core, disconnect all the hoses, take a hose, 658 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: set up a tap, and run city water pressure through 659 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: the system and you should be fine. All right, that'll 660 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: work for you. And then and then you know, new hoses, 661 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: fresh cooling. You're good to go, because five years from now, fifteen, 662 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty years from now, right, at least it's done once. 663 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm not an ady in the car doctor reminding you. 664 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive. They're priceless. 665 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 7: See you