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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this episode. This is the Peters family

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Speaker 1: reunion episode. So it's my mom, my brother, and myself

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Speaker 1: sitting in my hotel room in Toronto, and we had

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Speaker 1: a good time. We tried to dig to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the family roots. We didn't get as far as

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Speaker 1: we wanted to, but it's fun. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: ever wanted to know what it's like sitting around with

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Speaker 1: my mom and my brother and myself and what we

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Speaker 1: talk about, this is your opportunity to eavesdrop on my family.

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Speaker 1: You know, zy bastards. What should we talk about? We

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Speaker 1: can talk about anything we want to talk about anyway.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to culturally canceled with Russell Peters. I'm Russell Peters

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Speaker 1: in the very slouchy position. Um, this is what I

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Speaker 1: decided to sit in and what I've decided to wear.

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Speaker 1: We're in my hotel room in Toronto. I got my mom,

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Speaker 1: Mama pe and my brother and we don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. We don't know whether this is going

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Speaker 1: to go. So you know, it could go sideways in

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Speaker 1: a matter of minutes. To be honest with you, I mean,

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Speaker 1: right mo, it could it could go up. Dog do

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Speaker 1: all right between the black mike and going up and

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Speaker 1: down anyway, will do backwards anyway, will do whatever you fancy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Some mom's here, guys. In case anybody's wondering

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Speaker 1: who the lute nick in the background is, that's Mom.

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Speaker 1: So my brother's here and I haven't seen him in

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Speaker 1: a year. Over a year. I've spent the last four

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Speaker 1: and a half months with my mom, so that's nice.

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Speaker 1: But usually my brother is the one that gets the

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Speaker 1: common dear Mom all the time, so it was nice

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Speaker 1: to have the old bag with us for a little while.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're and crazy Pants together again. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: are the same, the twins. We are the same. It's

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Speaker 1: a sad truth, folks. Well that's right. Did you have

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Speaker 1: fun back on the West Coast month? I did. I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed myself. I had a really good time, especially in Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know you were headlining at the Spearmint Rhino one weekend.

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Speaker 1: That was nice. Put your hands together, gentlemen, Alright, fellas,

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Speaker 1: twenty bucks is all it takes coming to the floor.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have two crazy sons, not

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Speaker 1: just one. So what do you do, mom? We quarantine

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Speaker 1: We both quarantined separately. Yes, And I did my neighbors

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Speaker 1: bring food to my door, leave it at my door

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Speaker 1: and run away. And I would sit all day in

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Speaker 1: the sun room during my needle point, which I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to finish for my crissy. So when I what happened

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Speaker 1: on the naddle point that you started in l A.

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Speaker 1: It's still there. It's waiting for me to come back

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Speaker 1: sometime in the future. Then I'll finish it. But there's

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Speaker 1: only like a little patch left, isn't there. No I

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Speaker 1: need thread. In the meantime, I'm doing a small one

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Speaker 1: for Christy, which you will be taking back, which I

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Speaker 1: will finish by maybe tomorrow or the day after. What's

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Speaker 1: the needle point of It's a cat sit. It's a

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Speaker 1: black cat with green eyes and all kinds of pretty

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Speaker 1: sayings around it. What kind of things like queen uh,

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Speaker 1: queen uh? No, I can't remember most of the times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you said all kinds, it's just one and then says

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Speaker 1: something like that's not really a saying, but those are

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Speaker 1: just those are just words. Yeah, but that's that's what

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Speaker 1: it says on the canvas. How was it staying with

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Speaker 1: brother all winter? It was much nicer than the other years,

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Speaker 1: especially nicer than last year. And I had a nice time.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed with Chrissie. I enjoyed it every little time

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Speaker 1: we had with Chumpy, even though Chumpy was clinging to

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Speaker 1: Daddy all the time. He misses me. But it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice four and a half month. But

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Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to get back home. It's true. She

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Speaker 1: And I are also off quarantine, off quarantine, but I

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Speaker 1: still can't go anyway because I don't drive. You say

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Speaker 1: it like that's new information. What did you stop driving?

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Speaker 1: You stopped writing, stopped driving, and they took my license away.

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Speaker 1: Mom has never driven, but Mom had a learner's permit,

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Speaker 1: sorry now that we have uber, well, I don't That

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Speaker 1: We also had dad. More important then seventeen years later,

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Speaker 1: I have all my friends around me who take me out. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean seventeen years after dad got you. It's been

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Speaker 1: seventeen years since our dad died? Yes, clear for the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise they didn't start driving my mom around in Well,

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Speaker 1: So that's seventeen years too. Oh, I thought you were

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Speaker 1: talking about ninety nine on now. No, no, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the problem. When we get together, we all

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Speaker 1: have our own conversations. All Mom. Mom will be literally

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Speaker 1: be like, you know, I got to go to Walmart

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Speaker 1: and get some baking soda. Oh, Russ, remember your friend

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell? So I got new information

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Speaker 1: from mom a few months ago about where our grandmother's from.

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Speaker 1: Did you know this? This is Mom's mom, Mom's mom

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Speaker 1: where's mom's mom from, Mom's grandma, mom's grandma. So our

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Speaker 1: great grandmother. So, who's from a sam? Not a sam? My?

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Speaker 1: My great grandmother apparently was from the tea gardens. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who she was, but that wasn't a SAM.

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Speaker 1: I think it was in a sam at the tea estate.

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Speaker 1: So that was your grandmother's mother, my great grandmother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so i'll be your grandmother's mother. You never met her,

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Speaker 1: never met her. I never met my grandmother's brother's. My

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Speaker 1: grandmother had two brothers. Really, you never met them? Were they?

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Speaker 1: One died and then one he's harder to meet. One

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Speaker 1: was going to become a priest, and then he left

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Speaker 1: I never saw them. Yeah, I don't know who they were.

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Speaker 1: So you never even met the priest. One became a priest. No,

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Speaker 1: he never became in Calcutta. Yeah, they were all in

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Speaker 1: very sick and he died, and that left my grannie

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Speaker 1: Auntie Gurty you met her too, Yeah, Uncle John's uncle

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Speaker 1: John's mother. Right, Oh, that's who Auntie Gertie was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my grandnie sister. You met Gertrude. That was anti Gertrude.

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Speaker 1: And what was grandma's name, Jessica? Jessica. It's a good name.

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Speaker 1: The name seems ahead of its time, then, yeah, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Gertrude's like right in line with that tid. Thank god.

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Speaker 1: Grandma got the good name. Grandma the name from marin Ohara,

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Speaker 1: did you Yeah, she looked one with the wind because

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Speaker 1: I got her name. My brother Morris got his name

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Speaker 1: from Morris Valley. Wow. What about Uncle Roger? I don't

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Speaker 1: a priest who died. Yeah, Uncle Roger, dear uncle Roger.

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Speaker 1: And what about on your dad's side, did you know

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Speaker 1: any of his No, I didn't meet my grandparents and

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Speaker 1: never met your dad's parents. Were they alive? When did

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Speaker 1: they croak? They broke when they had they gotta go? No,

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Speaker 1: but like they died before you were born. I guess so,

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Speaker 1: but you would like your dad. How much older was

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Speaker 1: your dad then grandma and thenana? Mm hmm six years?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, my mom, you're asking six years? Six years?

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Speaker 1: Six years? He was fifteen, daddy was twenty one. It's

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Speaker 1: illegal today. So by the time she was seventy and

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Speaker 1: Did she ever? Wo? How older she got? Fourteen? When

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Speaker 1: you got pregnant? Right, that's when she had Uncle Morris's

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Speaker 1: birthday December there, Oh wow, so and my mommy's birthday

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Speaker 1: the day before or day after he got yep born.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so she got knocked up a fifteen We

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Speaker 1: are some whiskey tango mother, We are wow, We're some

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Speaker 1: good hill billy star. Yeah, how did you na meet

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Speaker 1: your dad. You know my your mom, how did you

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Speaker 1: meet your dad? My grandmo father. They lived on the

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Speaker 1: years old, she fell in love with my father. Now

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Speaker 1: what eight year old girl knows about that, but she did,

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Speaker 1: and he was fourteen yep, and she was determined she

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Speaker 1: They married for seventeen years. That's not too bad. Sev

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Speaker 1: seventeen years, so she was like thirty two when they

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Speaker 1: broke up. It's not too bad. And he was not

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Speaker 1: a great guy. No, he wasn't that. He wasn't a

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Speaker 1: the street, no, everybody in the building, not street. By

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Speaker 1: on the same street. No, my mom, me and daddy

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Speaker 1: lived where I was born in Ghanish Gender Avenue, but

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Speaker 1: my granny lived in Temple Street. My mommy was brought

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Speaker 1: Temple Street. And you never met his parents. How old

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Speaker 1: have no idea, I have absolutely anything about this guy.

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Speaker 1: All I know is my grandfather was a chief boiler

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Speaker 1: maker on the railway. All I know Albert, Albert Albert Wick.

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Speaker 1: Now he was Anglodian. He was angry name like Albert wake,

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Speaker 1: I would think so. My grandmother's name was Ivy. But

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Speaker 1: your grandmother on your mom's side, her father was what English,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, English, Scottish white right, yea from from

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Speaker 1: the United Her maiden name was Robertson till he died.

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Speaker 1: And then your grandmother raised you because my grandmother so young, Yes,

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Speaker 1: she raised me till I had you. Wait, how old

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Speaker 1: was your grandmother when she had anna then I have

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Speaker 1: no idea how old. We never we never discussed those

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Speaker 1: things at home. Well, let's do the math. How old

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Speaker 1: was she when she passed? I don't know because I

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Speaker 1: was here. Yeah, really, yeah, Daddy went home in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty seven and my grandmother I think my grandmother died

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty sixty seven or sixty eight sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: But she got to meet brother. My grandmother, Oh yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: oh yes, she spoiled him. Rotten and that's the reason

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Speaker 1: And use the mic. No he's not Mike in front

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Speaker 1: We're gonna caught up with mom. Okay, got to work,

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Speaker 1: all right, for prosperity or posterity. Posterity is post to prosperity, prosperous.

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Speaker 1: I have no recollection. I actually have no memories of childhood.

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here. And I walked down the street

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Speaker 1: with me? And then that became like the first kid.

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00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: I remember. My brother looked at him and said, funk off,

422
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. You know you never used it.

423
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: A little boy? Do you want to come play? And

424
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, he's a little boy too. That was

425
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: called that. Okay, I said, you can go across and play.

426
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: And then we became friends. And that's when she became

427
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: your godmother, correct lady. She was very nice, very nice

428
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: family act and yeah, Mr de Stacy was cool too.

429
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: The whole family was nice. I always thought I was

430
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: named after him because my middle name is Dominic and

431
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: he was Dominic. He was Dominic, but was Dominic, I

432
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: should think. So I don't think you would change his

433
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: name at this stage. I don't even know if he's

434
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: still alive. I haven't seen him all right, So why

435
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: is he Dominic? Man? Because I wanted a girl and

436
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: I wanted to call it Dominick, and your father said, oh, no,

437
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: no no. I said we'll call it Erica, and he

438
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: said no, no, no, no no. So then I said, okay,

439
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Dominic and that left it. And then uh, grandfather made

440
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: a vow to Saint Dominic. And then when he was

441
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: as soon as he was born, he went to wherever

442
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: he made the vow, which grandfather and then got the

443
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: second name Dominic. How did you come up with Russell?

444
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: They looking for a bunch of papers, and I worked.

445
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I worked with this English lady, pat and I asked

446
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: it to be godmother for Russell. For him, I said,

447
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: for my baby, and she said, if it's a boy

448
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: and you call him Russell, I'll be godmother. So I said, okay.

449
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: But something came up some emergency came up, she went

450
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: back to England. She never came back. So I just

451
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: stuck with the name Russell interesting and Clayton, and I

452
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: know Clayton. I know the backstory. Dad, you wanted Clint

453
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Clint after Clint Walker, cowboy actor, but then Clint Walker

454
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: was over six ft tall, and Dad surmised that I

455
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: would not be that tall. So then he thought it

456
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: would look weird that I would be named after Clint

457
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Walker and not be as tall as Clint Walker, who

458
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: nobody remembers. And then he moughtifed. Then they modified it

459
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: to Clayton, and then Edward. Where did Edward come from?

460
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Edward is grandfather? Which James Edward grandfather? At least I

461
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: got named after some loan low level saint St. Dominic. Yeah,

462
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: it was St. Dominic, Right, Why do you call him?

463
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not one of the better known ones.

464
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: You don't know anything, quite, It's not like my high

465
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: ranking saints. Okay, that's okay, that's not I got the

466
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: discount one, Okay, here in Toronto, Yes, I was born

467
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: here Mount Sinai Hospital. But Dad wanted a girl that

468
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: wanted to go badly, so he was disappointed. Well, here

469
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: I am. He was. He wouldn't come, he wouldn't dint

470
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: to the phone. And then yeah he was. So he

471
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: just wouldn't talk when I told him. And then they didn't.

472
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: They didn't tell you what you were getting back then, right,

473
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know. That was a surprise. It was I

474
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't even want. I knew. I knew. I told him

475
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: from the beginning. I said, it's another boy. And he said,

476
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
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477
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: having it. I know. So when he came in the

478
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: evening and they cleaned him up and they was all

479
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: round face and pudgy looking and all that, I said,

480
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: to that see and then Dad looked at him and

481
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: he said, I said, well, I can't put him back now.

482
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: Well then that then he was okay. Once he saw him,

483
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: he was okay. I feel great about this story. He

484
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: was okay. So I had to earn my dad's love.

485
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: What about Clayton. Clayton used to cry every time I

486
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Speaker 1: went to babysitt something somebody's house. He used to cry

487
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: and cry and cry. And Dad used to call me

488
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: and say, can you can I bring this child over

489
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: to you. He won't stop crying and I got to

490
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: get up for work in the morning, so Dad would

491
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: bring him over with the diapers and the bottom, and

492
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: then it stayed with me and it stopped crying. And

493
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: then all day long he would sleep, and all night

494
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: long he would make me walk up and down with

495
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: him because he didn't want to sleep. I see, Hill,

496
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: I still have separation anxiety. If that makes you feel

497
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: only better, I still have that. I still get really faked.

498
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Russell Russell used to lie and when he used to

499
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: wake up, used to lie in his crib and used

500
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: to do over and the moment he would see me,

501
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: big smile on his face, and he would be so happy.

502
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: He just had to see me, and he would be

503
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: so happy. Was the happy kids When I wouldn't be sitting,

504
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: when I would be cooking and put him in his

505
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: little lounge chain while I'm cooking, and he'd be then

506
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: he'd be looking at me and he'd be smiling and gurgling.

507
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Was he a good baby? See? Yeah? He never sleep

508
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: at night? Was I a good baby? You were a

509
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: good baby in the daytime, you would sleep all day,

510
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: But at nighttime you were a bad baby because you

511
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400
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512
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513
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514
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Speaker 1: meal kid. Now you, um, you never experienced much racism,

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Speaker 1: did you? No? No, because you're very fair skin. That's

581
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: why no. One lady and Simpson said to me, if

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583
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586
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588
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Speaker 1: don't do in this country, leave her alone. She can

589
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Speaker 1: come here, Gray school, she can come here. Yeah, she

590
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Speaker 1: I know, I did too, but not until we moved

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Speaker 1: to Brampton. I never knew that it was in the city. Nothing,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know if mine was racism, but

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Speaker 1: I remember being getting scolded by that one babysitter. Remember

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Speaker 1: there was I remember the house clearly. It had a

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Speaker 1: fence in the signs or something. Their names, I don't

600
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Speaker 1: know what they were, but those people the dog, because

601
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: there was that dog that bit me. Yeah, yeah, I remember.

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00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: It was like I was like three or four and

603
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: i've five were because he used to bring you home

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00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: there and she was on the couch making out with

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend, and I'd just be sitting there, so I'd

607
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: be like look, and you would say stop staring. So

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Speaker 1: you know, when that song came out about I don't

609
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Speaker 1: know who made a sunny or somebody said something. I

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: used to think it used to say, I stopped sharing,

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Speaker 1: I shot the sheriff. I thought it kept saying ice

612
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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable because it just felt like she was so

615
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: shitty to me. Yeah, she was so shipped to me.

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00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: But that but that experienced racism right when right when

617
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: he first came here, well kind of, but you know

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00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: that how he was, he was very self conscious about

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Speaker 1: this color and you know, and then they asked him

620
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622
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Speaker 1: be speaking such good English? But they said, because you

623
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Speaker 1: don't speak good English. That's why Dad would say, I garls,

624
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Speaker 1: we speak the Queen's English. We speak the Queen's English.

625
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Speaker 1: And they asked him how he learned to speak English.

626
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: He said, when we were coming over on the plane,

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Speaker 1: to learn how to speak English. And that's and then

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Speaker 1: talk to people. That's how we learned English. Because they

632
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: were so dumb they couldn't figure out, just for the backstory,

633
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: if everybody they spoke English first is their first I

634
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: told him my first language is English, and I'm just

635
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: letting the listeners know so they don't think that you

636
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: actually learned it on the flight over. As Angloian is

637
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: the first language in India was English in the house.

638
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Outside the house, it was always English first and then

639
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: whatever local language they needed to be your Bengali second

640
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: in Calcutta. Um so English is an international language anyway,

641
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: so they come they were trying to do There were

642
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: some countries were asking to do away with it, and

643
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: they said, with English, how could we how could we

644
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: do how could we communicate with you? If we don't

645
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: if it's not in English, not everybody knows your language.

646
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: So they just left it interesting. What kind of them

647
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: if you go down south, if you go down south

648
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and down south where your mouth is when you're not

649
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: on the mic, they you hear them speak English with

650
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: such an accent. You can't understand that. No, down south

651
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: in Carolina and India. Down south in India, you know,

652
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: because you're talking about English in the house. But a

653
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: lot of the a lot of them didn't know how

654
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: to speaking and now, of course a lot of them

655
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: speak English well. But I think the thing there is

656
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: that they're the most literate ones in India. So I

657
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: don't know that to be true. I don't know because

658
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: excuse me, I have a lot of Molly Alley friends

659
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: and their parents don't speak English, That's what I'm saying.

660
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how was your own maybe with their

661
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: own language, that's fair. No, No, that children are really

662
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: educated though, so they speak they speak a lot of

663
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: English all the time. People Tamil people, Maliali's people thrown

664
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: people to me. I didn't know that, didn't She didn't

665
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: corn to give you some guidelines or some guidance or

666
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: something that she just wants to Now we want to

667
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: get into our childhoods and stuff. Okay, So there I

668
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: was poor. I was born a poor black child. In

669
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: your mind, you were born a poor black shop well

670
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: not my mind now in my mind, but not then

671
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: I grew into it. Well, I mean from when I

672
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: when we moved to Brampton was Yeah, then there were

673
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: the black kids were the only ones not picking on me.

674
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: So that's why I hung out with them. We also

675
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: had the Tams down the street. There were Chinese, there's Filipinos,

676
00:40:53,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: there's the Purloses, but that wasn't until many years later. Yeah,

677
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: the Paris is Mark and kirk Um. But that was interesting,

678
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: wasn't it funny? Like they lived on our street and uh,

679
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: their father was Anglo Indian and their mother was from Denmark.

680
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: And then it turns out that their father worked in

681
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: India with our grandfather what is that company? And my

682
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: father was in the shipping department, shipping and they knew

683
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: each other. They were like friends. Mr Parris was a

684
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: witness for my father's wedding second marriage m oh after

685
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: he bounced? Yeah, did he got married in India the

686
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: second time? Did he get divorced at least? Okay? I

687
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: was never really clear on what happened to that guy.

688
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: You never ever actually told me about my grandfather and Australia.

689
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: You know, he moved to England and they to Australia.

690
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: And then what year did he leave India? Then? Must

691
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: be sixty sixty four, So right when Toots was born?

692
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Did he meet Toots? Yeah, he met him once only

693
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: when he was a baby. He was passing by. He

694
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: lived down the road from me, actually he lived down

695
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: the road from us. But after your parents got divorced,

696
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: you never we were strange from him, right, You didn't

697
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: really know him see him. He didn't come visit you once. No,

698
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: we would see see each other in church or something

699
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: like that. We would go to church and see each other,

700
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: but that was it. And then then when then I

701
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: got married. I never invited him. Then when you were born,

702
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him. He found out from the newspaper

703
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: big headlines when I was born, big headlined, now sing

704
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: he's got a big head My mother put it in

705
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: the paper because people, So why didn't you tell him?

706
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: And why didn't you invite him? Because he was so

707
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: strange from us? Okay, okay, like I said, he was

708
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: a yeah, a dick. I remember he sent us all

709
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: that stuff in like seventy seven. Yeah, you guys reconnected

710
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: after how many years did you reconnect? Know? How many

711
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: years have been? About fourteen, fifteen years, thirteen years, what

712
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: seventeen years? I think it was seventy seven? Yeah, And

713
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: then how did you guys reconnect? What frontier? And Auntie

714
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: gave him my address and said, oh, your father wanted

715
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: to as Darren's grandmother. Ruh, right, okay, so she connected

716
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: you too. And then he sent us those boomerangs, which

717
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: is ironic because unlike him, they came back. And I

718
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: remember he sent us that little Koala bear with the

719
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: wind up thing in the belly. But I remember how

720
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff smelled. Yeah, it's remember things by smell

721
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: that knows man, I know, look at this thing. I mean,

722
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. I remember the way Mr

723
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Garbage's house smell that it's very specific smell. It didn't stink,

724
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: it was just a different, specific smell. And I remember

725
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: how that Koala bear smells. I remember going, what is

726
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: this freaking weird smell? This thing has? Probably he sent

727
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: your T shirts from Australia coasters. That's in case we

728
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: had a drinking problem at seven, Yeah he did. Did

729
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: he drink opaciently? It wasn't an alcoholic And I think

730
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: just because you haven't drink, doesn't I drink and problem

731
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: especially the real way people real way, mean, the people

732
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: that Angling has worked on the real way, they like

733
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: their drinks every night. They had to have. Remember Dad

734
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: telling me though that after after the partition, after forty seven,

735
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: when the British left, but it was hard for Angling

736
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: and men to get work, and so it was easier

737
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: for the women to get work because they get secretary

738
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: of work, but for the men there was really nothing

739
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: to do, so they just sit around all day and

740
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: kind of drink, and then alcoholism became a problem within

741
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: the community. I just want to say I don't have

742
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: a problem not. My name is Russell. I don't have

743
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: a problem. I don't swear ll. I know when Russell

744
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: is drunk, you call me him drunk just a little

745
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: bit I do. I call mom when I'm when I'm drunk,

746
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: when I get I listen. I get drunk, not very

747
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: often anymore, but when I do it, it takes a

748
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: lot now. So that's why I've even stopped. I'm like,

749
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: still not stuff doesn't work anymore? Wow, Yes, I'm like,

750
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I drunk is funny looking, smelly looking things. You know, cigar? Yeah,

751
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: I know what they are, but I have other things

752
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: in my mind. But you even said to me I'd

753
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: rather sit there and smoke a cigar than drink some alcohol. No,

754
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: I rather use smoke that take drugs. Well, it was

755
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: never a rather person do that than do drugs. Do

756
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: you remember this? When I was like, I know you

757
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: always deny this, but I remember it clearly. I must

758
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: have been nineteen nineteen, nineteen or twenty, and I said him,

759
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: what if I dad an Indian girl? Yeah, that's fine,

760
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: just no bloody goings GOSD because they were very prejudiced

761
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: against Sangre Indians. I don't know that to be true. Yes,

762
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: maybe in India. Now. When she was getting married, the

763
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: guy said, don't tell my tell my parents that your

764
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: mother's angle Indian. She said, but why I came from

765
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: two parents. My father's going, my mother's are Indian. No,

766
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: because you know, they they were that prejudiced. They didn't

767
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: like her. They didn't like even when he died. They

768
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: didn't like her because he died. They just didn't even

769
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, because she was half i Indian. That's very stupid.

770
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: It's very stupid. Yeah, and go on, now the goings.

771
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm marrying Indian Christian girls, Hindu girls. What it supposed

772
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: to be going people? A verything about you have to

773
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: be going, you have to be going, makes no sense.

774
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: If you're coming, you gotta be going, coming and going,

775
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: be coming in, come in going. And then I remember

776
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: like I dated a couple of going girls. But and

777
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't tell my mom what they dated.

778
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean you coming and coming? Sure was going and

779
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: coming and going. Good times, good times. A lot of

780
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: people can listen to. Is that really your mother? You're

781
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: talking like that in front of you. We're pretty open

782
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: with our mom. Yeah, we don't. We don't. We're not

783
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: a family and a family of secrets. Somebody said to me,

784
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: when you go to you go to Russell's show, how

785
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: can you sit there and listen to him swearing and

786
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: saying all those things. I said, well, that's fine. He

787
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: can go on stage and he can do anything and

788
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: say anything. When he comes home he doesn't say and

789
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: do those things. I said, that's what the people want.

790
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: That's what they get. I don't know that that's what

791
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: they want, but that's what they got. Definitely what's what

792
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: they get. So do you remember me dealing with a

793
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of racism when I was a kid? Mo No,

794
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: and I'm I was shocked to hear that. You guys,

795
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: how are you shocked? I would come home crying all

796
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: the time. I remember one time you came home from

797
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: George Vanie school and you were crying and I asked

798
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: you what happened. You said, you're not going back to

799
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: school and I said why because the kids called you

800
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: chocolate face. And I said, now you'll go back to school.

801
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: And if the kid calls the chocolate face, call him

802
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: aside and say do you eat chocolate? You like chocolate?

803
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: And if he says yes, then why are you calling

804
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: me chop? My face, you should like me. And then

805
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: so then you get your asks. What they're dain? What

806
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: you doing? Chocolate chocolate face? And that's when I don't

807
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: remember that one. Yeah, I remember remember patty being thrown

808
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: around a whole bunch chocolates. And then I remember when

809
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: Billy Blackburn gave you a bloody nose. Well, he didn't

810
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: really give me a bloody nose. I ran into his fist.

811
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what you did, but he didn't want to.

812
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: He was like, come on, come on. Then he threw

813
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: his fist down, and then I ran right into it

814
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: because I'm an idiot. It was like, come on, stop

815
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: chasing me, and he put his fist out. He didn't

816
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: throw a punch, he'd put his fist down. I ran

817
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: right into it. Why, I don't know, I'm an idiot. Well,

818
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got these little fights when

819
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: you were kids. Such a chocolate face, Me and my

820
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: chocolatey goodness, chocolate in my peanut butter. Out of all

821
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: the things that happened to me, trauma ties me and

822
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: my life. Mom remembers chocolate face. Never forget it. How

823
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: you came home crying, saying that the child called you

824
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: chocolate trace. And then remember the time Mr josephic somebody

825
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: was throwing snowballs at you, and he he caught you

826
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: throwing a snowball at the guy, and he called Daddy

827
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: and he said he could have hurt that kid in

828
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: the eye. I said to Daddy, go to school and

829
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: confront Mr Joseph, and that he asked him that why

830
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: did you pick on my son? Why didn't you see

831
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: what the other boy did? His eye saw what your

832
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: son did. He said, yeah, but the other boy threw

833
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: it at him first, so then he threw it back,

834
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: and he just he was the fool that got caught.

835
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: Now go tell that kid about Tell called his parents

836
00:50:46,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: and tell them he died, you know, Mr Joseph. To

837
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: Mr Vick's family, we send our warmest regards and ours

838
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: on his passing. On his untimely passing, and my mom's

839
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: even more untimely stories. But that's how I remember, like,

840
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm dying. No, I only hear that. So

841
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I just took all this abuse by myself and then

842
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: share with nobody with me. I would share with my

843
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: brother with me, and then I came to you rate

844
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: as much as I could. Yeah, I was just talking

845
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: about this the other day, and I still feel guilty.

846
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons I'm so overprotective

847
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: now is because I still feel like I didn't protect

848
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: you enough from that when you were a kid, because

849
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I know how it traumatized you, and I know I

850
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: know that, and people don't realize this. When you know people,

851
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's sometimes people who are critical of your

852
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: comedy or critical of the style of comedy that you

853
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: do on bout race and culture, and especially in the

854
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: States where they've got a whole they've got all kinds

855
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: of issues with it, where people don't realize that the

856
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: racism you encountered at the age of four or five, six,

857
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: in those really really early years, and I have a

858
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: seven year old son, so I can't even imagine, Well,

859
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: you gotta understand what was from four it was those

860
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: it was that, it was it was the defining element

861
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: of your life. That that that's where all of your

862
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: exploration of race and cultural exploration through comedy, trying to

863
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: understand what the funk happened to you during that time,

864
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: like why, and and people don't realize that. They just

865
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: think you've sort of taken some like oh, I'm gonna

866
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: make fun of Indians or whatever, but really what you're

867
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: doing is you're you're trying to You're still coming to

868
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: terms with the trauma that you dealt with at that time.

869
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: And so one of the reasons that I'm still over

870
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: protective of you to this day is because I know

871
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: what you went through, and there's a part of me

872
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: that feels like I should have protected you more during

873
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: that time. Although yeah, and you were live in your life.

874
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: And that's the thing though, people like you know, people

875
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: like um, like you know, were you there with him,

876
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: but you were a very active child, like you were

877
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: out playing, and those are in the days and people

878
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: now who have a tough time understanding because those are

879
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: in the days where you could play outside until the

880
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: lights came on, and that's literally what you did. When

881
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: did this wave of kidnappings and molestations started? Because I

882
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: don't remember that when I was a kid, it was there,

883
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't And even now, it's not as much

884
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: as people think it is. It's they they talk about

885
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: it on you know, about children being abductive and all

886
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's it's nowhere near the way it's perceived.

887
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: It's maybe it's more reported because we live on a

888
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: twenty for hour news cycle now, But the the actual

889
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: I read an article about this, The actual rate of

890
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: these type of things happening is no, is not as

891
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: high as as people would think it is based on

892
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: the news reporting of it. So one of the reasons

893
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Dad moved out of the city too, aside from the

894
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: fact that he got that job in Brampton, was because

895
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: that shoeshine boy was killed, remember, right, and he he

896
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of turned his back on Toronto at that time

897
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I'm done with the city, um,

898
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: when that little kid was killed, and I think we'd

899
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: already moved, but he said, I'm not. I'm never going

900
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: back to live in the city again after that. But yeah,

901
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, you were, you were out a lot. So

902
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: you were playing with your friends, You're riding your bike,

903
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: you're playing with Marlon, You're playing with all those kids

904
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: on the street that accepted you. Um and um. Yeah.

905
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: And I and I was six years older, so I

906
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: was also at a different stage in my life too.

907
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: You were always in the house to Brampton. When we

908
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: moved to Brampton and we started to experience that racism

909
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: and it was also I was eleven twelve years old,

910
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: so that's also a formative age two and and you're

911
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: being told that you're different all of a sudden, and

912
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: you're like, well, in the city, we weren't different. Now

913
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm different. Plus you're going through

914
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: puberty and the funny thing in the city. It wasn't

915
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: like it was this big melting pot in the city

916
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: back then either. Do you remember that lady on Indian Road,

917
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: you that that had that boy who was who called

918
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: him packy and told him and his and his mother

919
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: said should go back where you came from. And daddy

920
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: went over Indian Road. No, it's no, no, he called

921
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: you packy. He called you a package. You yeah, said,

922
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: And then Daddy went over to her mm hmm and

923
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: told her, how dare you? He told the boy said,

924
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: don't you have a dad came and she came out

925
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: and she started fighting with daddy and said you people

926
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: should go back, and and when Daddy started talking and

927
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: he let her have it, and he told her he said, yeah,

928
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: we the cream of the crop comes here to Canada

929
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: and not the scum. So take a look. After that,

930
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: After that, those girls never spoke to anybody. They all

931
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: was in their house. Ronnie Ronnie. His name was Ronnie

932
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: the little Boy. Okay, I remember his name is Ronnie Cox.

933
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: To Mom's point about me staying in, I mean that

934
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: was true. I was a quiet, lonely loner. I was

935
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: an artist. I used to draw and lormal the artistic

936
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: one of those duds. That's what teacher wanted us to

937
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: pursue him with his art, but he didn't want to. Well,

938
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I mean, I remember you

939
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: drawing a lot. I remember the drawing is being really good.

940
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: I remember how many times you used to write aliens. Though,

941
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh because of the style of the font you were

942
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: you were obsessed with the extended piece on it. Yeah,

943
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: it was. It went straight up, came down, and then

944
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: it didn't attach to the other the other vertical. I

945
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: found it quite fascinating because I remember you drawing it

946
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: all the time. It was it was, And also because

947
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: within the comic book they incorporated all the images of

948
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: the aliens, all the geigers, Aliens nerd alert and so

949
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I was quite fascinated by that. Yeah. So most of

950
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: the comic book, it's knew how to draw really well.

951
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: I find Spinbad was a really good Remember Spinbad? It

952
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: drew so well. It wasn't a comic book kid too,

953
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean a lot of guys who

954
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: grew up in the seventies and the eighties, the comic

955
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: books were huge. There was a huge boom. You remember them.

956
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: I just never got into them. I never The seventies

957
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge boom in comic books, and like

958
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: the racks that like W. H. Smith at the mall,

959
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: like it was, it was like the thing. And it

960
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: was right around the time Star Wars and all that stuff,

961
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: all of that stuff that really permeates pop culture now

962
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: all came out. I remember you drawing Space. Was still

963
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: fixated on Space nineteen. You have the way you were drawn.

964
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, it looks exactly like the poster. Yeah,

965
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: to this day, I'm still fixated on that show. What

966
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: did you draw? Nothing? Yeah, what did you draw? I

967
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: drew and I was horrible. That's horrible with it. I

968
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: couldn't draw a ship, I couldn't draw anything. So you

969
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: went out to play your friends and I went worked

970
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: on my personality. If you had, if you had to withdraw,

971
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: it would have been okay, pull out. Oh, your withdrawal

972
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: games week, apparently my withdrawal my deposit games on point. Anyway,

973
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: this was interesting and never really accomplished much, but you know,

974
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: this kind of gives you an insight as to what

975
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: my mom, my brother, and myself are like together. It

976
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: doesn't get any more interesting than this, which is sad.

977
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Really well, No, I think we talked more than most

978
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: I know. I asked a lot of questions because I'm like,

979
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions that I have that only

980
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Dad could have answered. And I'm like, damn it, I

981
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: should have asked it. Then I don't know, just stuff

982
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: about the family back, you know. And uh, and I remember, Dad,

983
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: I was something you should ask me on any questions

984
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: you want to ask me now while I'm here, And

985
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: I never really understood that. Anyway, I'm gonna wrap this up.

986
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: Anything else, No, I hang on, is there anything else

987
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk to mom about? Let's talk about

988
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: how I'm your favorite child. It's true, no child number one,

989
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: number one three. That's the joke. That's the joke is

990
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: that he's number three. I'm not even don't hold it

991
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: up like a chalice or a fellows. Um, yeah, I'm

992
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: number three. That's the joke. Because I'm number one, then

993
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: there's number I lost number two, so you will be

994
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: number three. Year. There you have it, folks. Um, so

995
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: anyone knows a good shrink? Good times. Anyway, thanks to

996
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: my mom and my brother Mo and Toots. This was

997
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: a memorable moment. Yes, that's what it was. It's something

998
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: we'll enjoy listening to. Yeah. I mean, this is probably

999
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: more for us than it is for you. But if

1000
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: you enjoy it, let us know. And if you didn't, um,

1001
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: we're aware of that. We know where the holes are,

1002
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: we know, we know. We don't think this is a

1003
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: phenomenal episode, but it was good for us. It was

1004
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: very cathartic. And uh, thanks for listening to Culturally Canceled

1005
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: with me Russell Peters And with that, I bid you, Hey,

1006
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. I hope you enjoyed the conversation and

1007
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,720
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1008
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,760
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1009
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,560
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1010
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1011
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1012
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1013
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1014
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,080
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1015
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