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We have a problem, don't I know you're down. 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 5: I know you're biased to Penn State, But wouldn't you 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: like it to be a little bit easier to get there? 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 4: Yes? 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I've said this to you before. I 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: think people underestimate the power of a head football coach 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: of the major college football team in that state. I 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: would literally lobby the state to figure out that airport situation, 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: like you gotta you gotta get more flights in their 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: bigger plans in That. 61 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't James Franklin conversation. Wasn't Franklin trying to do that? 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Didn't he bring it up? 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: It's I don't know, ilive, I. 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: Don't know what he was trying to do. I just 65 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: know there's there's do or don't, and he was getting 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: it done. 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: So it's been brought up a few times. It's just 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: you know, it's uh yeah, it's one of it's one 69 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: of our one deals that I think we could certainly 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: improve on that that it would help be nice to Yeah, 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: it would be nice to be able to get in 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: there with one flight. I mean too, it's not that bad, 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: but it kind of is because it's just, I don't know, man, 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: walking walking these airports nowadays, they'll have you walk thirty 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: minutes to your gate. You'll be sitting at your gate 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 4: for like five minutes, and then they'll be like, oh yeah, 77 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: now it's a gate change. Da Da da, And it's 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: like it's no problem, there's a gate change. But then 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: when you start to go to the gate and then 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 4: you realize it's another twenty minute, thirty minute walk to 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: get to the new gate, it just, I don't know, man, 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: just seems a tap bit inconvenient. It makes the you know, 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: kind of the flight a little stressful because you don't 84 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: know if they're going to change your your gate number 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: on you. I've I've had that happen to me several 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: times where I almost missed my flight because I'm sitting 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: at the gate and I didn't realize there was a 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: gate change. So but anyways, that that's not just about. 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: When you realize there was a gate change. I don't know, 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 5: like or something. 91 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I zone out. I just I got 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 4: I find my gate. 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 5: You're looking at like, I G you're probably watching something, 94 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 5: you know. 95 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: I listen to my music and I people watch. I 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: am a classic people watcher. I watch people. Yeah. I 97 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: look at couples like what they're what they what they're 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: built not and not. 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: That's a sport. 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I like, how do these people love 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: each other? They look like they should love each other, like, wow, 102 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: good looking kids, but they're not looking you know. 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: It's like a serial killer, is he not? 104 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? This guy is this person? 105 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 5: Yes? 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? People watch man like okay, yeah, people watch and 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 4: I judge. I draw conclusions and that's fun for me. 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: That's better than like sitting on social or playing a 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: video game. I like to play people. 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: Judge from the far people right, that's correct. 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: Judge from a var Yeah there you go, well done, guys. 112 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, top that. You know. 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, what's fd up about the flight from l 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: A to State college, you leave at eight as there 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: is none you leave at eight am and you land 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: at six people. 117 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: At eight am. No, you land at eight am, at 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: eight am eight pm. 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Because the three hour difference in the connector flight, the 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: entire day is chewed up. 121 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: Literally literally a data to travel. I'll get in at 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: nine to nine pm tonight. Damn stupid man. 123 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Why why nine pm? 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: Because I have fly fly to Chicago and then I 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 4: have to layover from Chicago and that's what time I 126 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: get in and I'm flying to Harrisburg because there were 127 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: no he's gotta drive because there was what I'm talking 128 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: about to the State College and now I got to 129 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: drive an hour and a half. 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: It's not even about flying direct even even with a stop. 131 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 5: There's just not many options, like to even get into 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: the stop. Like it's just I don't know. I've said 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: that before. I'll sit it again. It holds back Penn 134 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: State from recruiting. And I've talked to Coach Meyer about this, 135 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: like every time we fly there, it's like, man, if 136 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: we're flying like this, but you know, think about recruits 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: thinking about their parents in comparison to other places where 138 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: they can fly direct or it's a much easier process. 139 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: It's people people will hold that against that school. They 140 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: will It sounds stupid, but if like everything's equal, they're 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: going to use things like that to say, well, it's 142 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: hard to get to I don't want my kid to 143 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: go there. If it's hard to get to. 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: Central Pennsylvania isn't bad for driving driving states though, which 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: is that's probably always been kind of our saving grace 146 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: is like Pittsburgh it's an easy drive, Philly it's an 147 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: easy drive. Jersey it's an easy drive. New York is manageable. 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: It's not not bad. Virginia Eaton it's pretty easy drive. 149 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: So it's like that's the saving grace is if you're 150 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: able to do what you need to do locally, then 151 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: you know it's it's not so bad, but just economy wise, 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: just you know, the the way the city is ran 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: and the way it is. I mean, a bigger airport 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: would be advantageous for for State College, but you know, 155 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm not the decision maker there. I don't get paid 156 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: to figure that out or do the planning or the 157 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: zoning and all that stuff. I just try to fly 158 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: in there and hope I can get a flight in there. 159 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: And today I think it. 160 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: Assume if they, if they were trying to pay you, 161 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: you'd be like, Yep, I'm right there for you. I'll 162 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 5: figure this out. 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: I mean instead, I'm a just be eating some zombie 164 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: wings before I get onto about have a LeVar Allen. 165 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, now you guys, what up zombies? 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: No, man, I'm Jonas Knox. I do things better than that. Well, 167 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: you got Jonas? What what what are we doing today? Man? 168 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: What are we delivering to the people some of. 169 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: The Let's let's talk on the rundown first. 170 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: What you guys wanted to do? 171 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Uh, Week ten in the NFL is already here, believe 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: it or not, and we've got ourselves. 173 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: That's crazy, man, quick. 174 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Denver a nine and a half point favorite on 175 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: DraftKings coming up later on tonight. And you guys remember 176 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: that story we were hearing about how Tom Brady would 177 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: would give the Raiders a competitive advantage based on all 178 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: the games. Well, just you know that that was like 179 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the big talking point that hey. 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: This is not he's not coaching, he's not you know, playing. Yeah, 181 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: I don't get it. What advantages he getting? 182 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, well, upon further review. 183 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: Weren't people up in arms about it though, Like wasn't 184 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: like a real story, like he can't he shouldn't be 185 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: allowed to call guys. 186 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, well do you mean because he's getting information in 187 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: the meetings? You mean that sort of. 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: Information, like all that all that fun stuff. The Raiders 189 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: are way worse. 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: Than I thought they'd be. 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: I I did not. I thought I thought there would 192 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: be something better than this. 193 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: They haven't had Bowers though. I mean, look what happens 194 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 5: when they had him back last week. They take jacksfield 195 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 5: over time Bowers goes off. I mean, he completely changes 196 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: the complex of this offense. When you include like his 197 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: ability to be a mismatch in the pass game and 198 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: then Jent in the backfield, it is a nice they're 199 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: building blocks. It's a nice combination. Like I thought last 200 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: week was an example of like, all right, this is 201 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 5: what the offense can kind of look like. They're just 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 5: devoid of anything else outside of that on the end, 203 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: you know, on the perimeter, you know, they just trider 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 5: away Jacobe Myers, you know, so he's gone, He's went 205 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 5: to the team they played there, and there's really no 206 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 5: answers there. So if Bowers can stay healthy and Michael 207 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 5: Mayer can be there they can have that too tight 208 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 5: end set. That's how that offense is built, Like, that's 209 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 5: how Chip Kelly has built this offense to run the football, 210 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 5: play action, you know, use Bowers as a mismatch, but 211 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: they just don't have enough firepower in my opinion, to 212 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 5: be able to consistently compete. Did you think are competitive 213 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: but that was it? 214 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: Did you think Gino would struggle this much? 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: Again, I don't. I don't think Gino struggles when they're healthy. 216 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: Like you look at this past week. He didn't struggle. 217 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: He played great. Is arguably one of his best games 218 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: as a Raider. They just they like they literally when 219 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: when Bowers isn't there, they don't there's nothing. And that's 220 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: the toughest spot to being as a quarterback. And I 221 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: don't mean to say that, like in as disrespect to 222 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: the players who are there, Like I played with you 223 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: know a lot of different players, a lot of different teams. 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 5: What you realize as a quarterback is there's some receivers 225 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 5: who can get separation. There's some who can consistently make 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: a contested catch at the NFL level, and there's others 227 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 5: who they're just that's that's not really they're not capable 228 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 5: of that, and that's okay, Like, you know, there's ways 229 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 5: of scheming things up and ways of getting guys open. 230 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, like there's the extraordinary guys, and 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 5: there's guys who are difference makers like Bowers, and then 232 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 5: there's you know, other guys who are are just playing 233 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: those roles, and like, if you don't have one of 234 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 5: those guys or two of those guys in the perimeter, 235 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna struggle. And that's where their offense has been 236 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: largely without Brock Bowers there. So I just I looked 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: at it and said that there was always going to 238 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 5: be a rebuilding year, and once Bowers went out, you 239 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: kind of looked at it and just go, I don't 240 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: know what the identity of this offense is because they 241 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: don't really have anything without Bowers being a pass catcher 242 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: for them, even with gent in the backfield, like they like, 243 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: you can only run the football so much, So I 244 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 5: don't I don't. 245 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: Like. 246 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: Again, I look at Gino, I think, yeah, he's struggled. 247 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: But because they don't have anyone else who can separate, 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 5: who can do anything, I mean, they're gonna have to 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 5: strap together. Ten twelve play drives just to score, just 250 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: to even get a field goal attempt, because they don't 251 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: have enough big playmakers and people who could do something 252 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: outside of ours. 253 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: And how does Tom Brady exactly improve what Brady just 254 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: said by being in those team meetings. I don't know. 255 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: That's perplexing to me as to how that would impact 256 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 4: their team anyway positively. But you know, I look at 257 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: this this game and I find it to be way 258 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: more intriguing to see what Denver does in this game 259 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 4: versus the Raiders. I think we know who the Raiders are. 260 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: It's a team that isn't going to be a good team. 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a safe conclusion. And I 262 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: think that there's really no other meat on that bone 263 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: other than you know there they stink. 264 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: They're devoid of meat, their. 265 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: Devo met think. But I do wonder about this Broncos team. 266 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: I wonder, you know, what direction that they will end 267 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: up in as the season wears on. They have they 268 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: have proven that they're they're a legit team, like they have. 269 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: They have proven that that they can win, and and 270 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: it just makes you wonder, Like, you know, Bo Nix 271 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: has had his moments, but Bo Knicks has also had 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: low moments. What is Boonix going to be? Can can 273 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: he get to that next level? You know? JK. Dobbins 274 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: looks good now that he's healthy. I just I look 275 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: at this Broncos team. Their defense plays some really really 276 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: good defense. It's showing the traits of a classic Sean 277 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 4: Payton lad team. What does this game look like? It's 278 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: a it's a divisional opponent. We all know, even when 279 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 4: teams stink, divisional divisional opponents play each other pretty hard. 280 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: And you'll see, you know, the Raiders make a game 281 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: of it here and there against the Chiefs or against 282 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: the Broncos. You just's that's just how that's the nature 283 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: of the beast. That's how it goes. So I'm curious 284 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: to see, can can Denver have an impressive showing in 285 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: this game tonight? And what does that look like? I mean, 286 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't think you take much more from it other 287 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: than it's at least a team that we know can 288 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: win the games they're supposed to win. And it's getting 289 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: to that time of the year where you shouldn't lose 290 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: games that you should win if you're a team that 291 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: is actually going to be a contender. As the year, 292 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: wears on. 293 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Defense is really good and they get after the quarterback 294 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: really good, and I just I don't know if they're good. 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: It just feels like there's something off about bow Knicks 296 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: this year and the offense as opposed to last year. 297 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: And Justin Cooper gets his trousers all tight in the 298 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: front every time they're on TV and every time they're 299 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: just us because he thinks this is a legitimate team 300 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and so you know he's staring through the glass. But look, man, 301 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they struggled against Houston after C. J. Stroud 302 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: got knocked out last week. They've just they've struggled in 303 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: these moments and you're looking at these games going, well, 304 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that close, should it. So I just 305 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're good yet. Here they are 306 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: halfway point of the season and they're they're going to 307 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: be battling down the stretch for the one seed in 308 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: the AFC, like they might get the buy based on 309 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: how things finish up, and they're leading that division. So 310 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I'm trying to figure out 311 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: what the hell they are. So maybe this is their 312 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: coming out party, but I'm actually surprised the line wasn't bigger. 313 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: I thought it would be more. 314 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: Really, yeah, and that's a big line for an NFL game, 315 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: you know. Like the thing that concerns me with them 316 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: is they're what four to zh when trailing going into 317 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and saying, well, why are they trailing 318 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: for about half their games going to the fourth quarter? 319 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: I mean, is that signaling that they're closer to a 320 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: five hundred team then most people realize it, or maybe 321 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: a losing team in that sense, like like why are 322 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: they having so many issues worth getting their offense going 323 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: in the first three quarters of games where they've constantly 324 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: got to make these heroic comebacks. I mean there's something 325 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: to that being able to have to resolved to be 326 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: able to win enough games to be seven to two 327 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: and a team that's looked at as a. 328 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: Playoff you mean like the Giants game where they scored 329 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: thirty three in the fourth like that game? 330 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like something like that, Like, like what is the 331 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: need or why do they have this issue with trying 332 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: to score points earlier in games? I Mean, Sean Payne's 333 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 5: one of the best offensive minds I would think, like 334 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: his scripting for the beginning of the game and then 335 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: even come out halftime. Like a lot of people don't 336 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: talk about this, but you know, most coaches have a script, 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: you know, so you're not practicing quite as much as 338 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: you go into to a game necessarily, but you've got 339 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: a pretty good idea of what those first five, six, seven, 340 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: eight plays are going to be coming out of halftime, 341 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: and that and that next drive because you just have 342 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: a little bit more time to all be together and talk. 343 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 5: You're always evolving and changing, but with each drive, it's 344 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 5: not like, you know, everyone's, oh, they're gonna make adjustments 345 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: at halftime. It's like, dude, every drive, you're making adjustments. 346 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: You know, You're not. You're not like waiting until you 347 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: all get into the locker room, have your juice box 348 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 5: and sit down and like talk about it. It's like 349 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 5: you're you're constantly making adjustments. It's just at halftime you 350 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 5: have the ability to say, all right, let's reset here. 351 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: This is what we're doing. This is what we're doing here. 352 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: All the coaches are together, we're all good. We're on 353 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: the saying okay, good good. What's the injury situation? All right? 354 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: You know where guys at can you go? Can you 355 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 5: not go? You know, those things are a little bit 356 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: more deeply discussed than what you get on headsets, kind 357 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 5: of dispersed across the sideline, it up in the box. 358 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: So that's that's the biggest difference. But I just I 359 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: wonder why they've been such a slow starting team, you know, 360 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 5: when you look at their their scores this season. 361 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been Nevertheless, they've been an impressive team, though, 362 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: I mean in terms of for me, what I thought 363 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: they would be and what they are. 364 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: I mean, are they another one you thought wouldn't be 365 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 5: very good? 366 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: I thought the Broncos would be Okay, I didn't. I 367 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 4: didn't think that they would be a too a two 368 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: lost team. 369 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Where did I happen? 370 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 5: I thought they'd be third in the division and that 371 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: they're obviously better than that. 372 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: Right now? 373 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: Did I have them? 374 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: They are? 375 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: I think I don't know a card team. 376 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: I don't think so. You missed too many picks. You 377 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 5: missed too many picks to be uh to be claiming 378 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 5: them as anything. 379 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, until there's proof, I can say whatever 380 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: I want. I mean, I had them at seven and two. 381 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 5: That's usually what you do. 382 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, it's correct what you do. 383 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need proof, by the way the little fine 384 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: system tally that we've got going on the Google doc. 385 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: You're not you're not even in it, Like what do 386 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 5: you care? 387 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, who's judging the fines? Like, who's who's handing out these? 388 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: Well, here's one for you, just like you would like 389 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 5: we're all judging Jonas. That way, we can all make 390 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: the decision, right. 391 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Jonas, Hey, I wish that were the case on this show. Yeah, 392 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: that's ten dollars. 393 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: That's ten dollars right now. It was direct, that was one. 394 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Direct shot. 395 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was to the fine ban again. 396 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: Son of a bitch. This is like, this whole thing is. 397 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: Readying fine for it because to your point, it wasn't passive. 398 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: This is so that was super passive aggressive. 399 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: Aggressive. 400 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, all right, I think we can. 401 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: All agree though, we're all on the same page with this. 402 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: I mean, there's only twenty bucks in the pod. 403 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I said, I'm throwing an initial ten, 404 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 4: initial twenty. I don't have a problem with that. 405 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: No, no, no, you're not can find twenty for that. We're 406 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: really doing ten bucks. 407 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 4: For it, all right, you know, but if we're going 408 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: out to eat with it, you know, you know, I 409 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: can contribute. 410 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: Trust me, we'll get there quick with Jonas. He's not 411 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: on the board yet, but he will. 412 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: I just don't know what how Transylvania dollars work. 413 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what is the currency? I don't know there. 414 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's US dollars, Jonas. You have to pay up 415 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 5: at some point. 416 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: Don't vampires have gold? Though? 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I think he's maybe a little older 480 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: than Harper, but I recall him coming in into the 481 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: city with another big, big name player from a different sport. 482 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 4: But Ovechkin has has delivered man like talk about a 483 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: guy who came in with a ton of hype, you know, 484 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 4: obviously the whole him and Sidney Crosby, you know conversation 485 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: has always been like the Wayne Gretzky Mary o Lemieux conversation. 486 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: But Ovechkin has I got my Like I said, I 487 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: got my career started off of covering him, and it 488 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: was it was pretty cool because we were the official station, 489 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 4: so I was always at the games. We were the 490 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: official station for the Caps and for the Nats, so 491 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: I was always at the games, and it was it 492 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 4: was just he's fun to watch, man. That's a fun 493 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: team too, And they've they've kept you know, some core 494 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: group guys in play for quite some time, like it's 495 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: for like over like a decade. So good for him. Congratulations. 496 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: Can you imagine LeVar playing hockey. 497 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: Though, see, it's crazy, you know it was big in Pittsburgh, 498 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: so a lot of our time was spent playing street hockey. Yeah, 499 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: and then we graduated to online or inline inline roller blading, 500 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: so we would roller blade hockey. Did you real games 501 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: like we go to, like basketball courts? 502 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: You use those Coho Revolution sticks? Remember those the east 503 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: of the Mario mu tom Barrasso cohoed Revolution sticks. I 504 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: still have those things. 505 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: I had a rich stick. I wasn't into the names, 506 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: the the brand names of hockey sticks. But what's interesting 507 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 4: is I'm I'm I'm ambidexterous. So I guess I was 508 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: forced to learn how to write wrighty. So I write 509 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: with my right hand, but I do a lot of 510 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: things with my left hand, and one I played hockey 511 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: with a left handed stick, and so it was pretty interesting. Man, 512 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: I'll put right in your mouth, right in your. 513 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 5: Mouth, aggressive. 514 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 515 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 5: You shuffle cards with your with your right. 516 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: Hand, with my right hand, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is true. Yeah, 517 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: and I shoot pool with my left stick class with Yeah. 518 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: Well that's why they called me sticks. 519 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask you one quick question about d C 520 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: sports because I was talking to uh Olivia Garvey about this. 521 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: She covered d C sports for a while. She told 522 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: me that the Capitals are second to the Commanders and 523 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: that the Wizards are way down the list of what 524 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: people are interested in in the city. Is that true? 525 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: Like the Wizards, some people would argue that DC United, 526 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the soccer team, is more popular than the Wizards. Nobody 527 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: cares about it. 528 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: That's true. The Zarts are the Arts are a team. 529 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: I would say when they were the Bullets, which I 530 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: wasn't there when they were the Bullets, but the stories 531 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: I heard, like Wes on Sale walks around like, well, 532 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think he's still around. I'm precious. 533 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: Let me make sure he's still around. I haven't been 534 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: around in a while. That's that's how long I've been gone. 535 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure. Yeah, dang, you look it up. Wes unse Anyway, 536 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: he was the guy. Yeah he got up out of here. 537 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah I knew he got up at it. He was 538 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: the guy that was like the star like he was 539 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: almost like the Doug Williams of the basketball team. And 540 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: so he walked around and people were like, oh, there's 541 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: wes unselled da da d this that and the other. 542 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: So as the Wizards, you know, I came in the 543 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: same time. Michael Jordan came to the team, so popularity wise, 544 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 4: it was definitely the Skins back then, and then the 545 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: Tzards and we didn't even have a baseball team, right, 546 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: so so and the hockey team wasn't you know they 547 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: I believe they were still at US Arena. I could 548 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: be wrong, but I believe early two thousands they might 549 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: have still been in the US air but they weren't 550 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: popular at all, Like, people didn't talk about them at all. 551 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: So if you think about now where they're at, I 552 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: would say, I honestly would say the hysteria that has 553 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: surrounded the hockey team may have overtaken all pretty much 554 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: all the sports commanders. I think. So I think that 555 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 4: the kind of the disappointment. 556 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: That Daniels arm falls off and all of a sudden 557 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: they're going hockey over football. 558 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's always been. Football is 559 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: popular in DC. And what's crazy is DC Maryland, Virginia 560 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: is actually there. It's basketball heavy, it's a basketball place, 561 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: but they love they love the football team. But I 562 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: think the baseball team and the hockey team definitely closed 563 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: the gap on on relevance of popularity and what you're 564 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: looking for. I mean, think about it each of them, 565 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: each of them have gotten a championship during this this 566 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: this time, this time frame, you know, except the football team, 567 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: right and the basketball team. So I don't know. I 568 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: look at it like the hockey team is clearly they 569 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: got the most swag in in DC, like they go out. 570 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: If you saw OV and jayde Daniels, there would be 571 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: no drop off on the excitement. In fact, there'll probably 572 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: be more excitement to see Ovechkin just because he has 573 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: like this character like type of vibe to him. Like 574 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: you see him, it's like, dang, like that's Ov right there. 575 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: You know, like when you're a grown person doing that, 576 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: you know you've like you've done some pretty special stuff 577 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: for people to kind of look at you and like 578 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: revere you that way like Ovechkin. Ovechkin has that aura 579 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: in DC. He's probably the most beloved, most popular athlete 580 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: in DC. For certain, I think he's number one. 581 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a nine hundred goals man. Historical last night 582 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: for him. 583 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: Man. 584 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Now we are going to have in case you missed it, 585 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: coming up here in about ten minutes from now, some 586 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: updates quarterback health wise, Kyler Murray is going to go 587 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: on IR so he's got his foot injury, Jonathan Ganna made. 588 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: Is it a real foot injury or is it a 589 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: I got Ben's footed in the well? Like that's it? 590 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: So he heard it. I think it was against the 591 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Titans in that collapse against Tennessee earlier this year, and 592 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: nobody could really figure out what it was. And I 593 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: don't remember if it was like another turf toe or 594 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: somebody said it was kind of Liz Frankish. I just 595 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't like there's been sort of kind of a 596 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: mystery about it. But Jonathan Gannon basically said, like, look, 597 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: he's a mobile quarterback, so it's going to affect him 598 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more and it's going to take maybe 599 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: more time to come back. But so he's going on 600 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: ir so he's not going to be back early at 601 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: he'll be back as week fourteen. And I'm just looking 602 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: at the timelines, you know, like he may have played 603 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: his last snap in Arizona like that, like you know, 604 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: we may have seen the end of Kyler Murray already 605 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: in Arizona, And I just wonder if they do if 606 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: he is ready to come back. 607 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah crazy, how quick stuff? 608 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: If he's ready to come back, if you were Kyler 609 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Murray and they're out of the playoffs. Are you risking 610 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: knowing that that you're probably going to be on the 611 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: outs after the year anyways, based on how they've handled this. 612 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: Whole That's why I asked the foot injury. 613 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's got a mid foot sprain which would 614 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: coincide with probably a Liz Frank sprain or injury, and 615 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: it's looking like he's seen multiple specialists for this, and 616 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: he's the recovery periods and were from four to eight weeks, 617 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 5: which it happened on October fifth, so he'd be about 618 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: it the full week mark now, and you can understand 619 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: why then they put him on IR because he probably 620 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: needs another four weeks, which we'll get into that eight 621 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 5: week number. So that's assume there's not a setback, which 622 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: is better. 623 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: In the state. No over, I have to say that 624 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: he's getting he's he's actually getting the rest that he 625 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: needs versus he's losing his job because he can't play. 626 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I mean, look, I'm not a doctor. There 627 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 5: was a show called Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman, but I 628 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: have no affiliation of that Quinn. So the only expertise 629 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 5: I can give on this whole matter is probably saying 630 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: that I've had a list. Frank. My understanding of my 631 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 5: understanding of that injury is it's a ligament, right, it 632 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 5: goes across your mid foot, it connects your metatarsals, and 633 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: when you sprain it, we're really talking about like small tears, right, 634 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 5: there could be micro tears in that ligment, which, as 635 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 5: we know, ligments don't heal themselves, So I don't know 636 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 5: that it's going to get better. There's not really much 637 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 5: you can do if you don't surgically go back in 638 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 5: and reattach it. You know, my injury came with a 639 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: fracture as well because it was tore and it ripped 640 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: off some of the bone. So what happens in that 641 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: case is, you know, the bone will you know, heal itself, 642 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: that will recalcify and it kind of builds in scar 643 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: tissue to create stability. Right. The body is an amazing thing. 644 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 5: But I don't know that that's his specific injury or situation, 645 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 5: so I can't speak to that. What I do know 646 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: is that this time frame is probably about right for 647 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: him to get a sense of if he can eventually 648 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 5: go or not. But I would imagine at the end 649 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: of this four weeks, there might have to be a 650 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: decision made on surgery. And if that's the case, obviously 651 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: the season's over. And to your point about as he 652 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 5: played this last game in Arizona, probably it's most likely 653 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: trending towards that given a skill set, how he plays, 654 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 5: but also just the type of injury. Like if he 655 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 5: wants any future, whether it's in football at quarterback or 656 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 5: you know we talked about throughout even going back playing baseball, 657 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: if he wants any of that, he's probably gonna have 658 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: to get that thing fixed. Otherwise it's gonna nag him forever. 659 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 5: I've told you guys, like I was told initially back 660 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine, all you could cast it, 661 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: let it heal a stuff, and like it never felt 662 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: the same after that. I mean, it never was able. 663 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 5: It was always an issue, always a problem that I 664 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 5: was getting, you know, treatment for and different things for 665 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: the rest of my career. So until you get that surgery, 666 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: it's not really ever gonna feel stabilized and you're gonna 667 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: be dealing with issues. 668 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: I just wonder, do you know, are we are we 669 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: overstating that Kyler Murray is done? Like That's what I 670 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: wonder Is it just that the injury is the injury, 671 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: get healthy from the injury, get back, and then you'll 672 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: see Kyler Murray play. Is it as simple as that 673 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: or is it as complex as this injury has served 674 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: noticed that actually there's there's a player on the roster 675 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: and Jacoby Brissett that they feel more comfortable with that 676 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: they can unlock more of their offense with because of 677 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: his style of play. And now this is the end 678 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: for Kyler Murray. Like, does there have to be a 679 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: conspiracy theory connected to a real injury? Is what I'm wonder? 680 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: Is it overstated? 681 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: Well, when the coach says, yeah, I think it's pretty 682 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: safe to assume even if you were healthy, we're gonna 683 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: we would continue to go with Jacoby Brissett, Like I mean, 684 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: he said that's you know specifically about the and it's like, 685 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: all right, well, if that's the case, if I'm Kyler 686 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: Murray and I know that, I'll take my sweet ass 687 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: time getting ready knowing that if the coach has already 688 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: made that decision and has already spoken publicly about that, 689 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: it's it's run its course here and I'm just gonna 690 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. 691 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: It's possible. But what if Jacoby Brissette falls on his face? 692 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: You know, what if he what if he has one 693 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: good game, you know, a decent game here, and then 694 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 4: it's it's not so. I mean, it's it's a long season. Still. 695 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: I just don't know that you make that definitive of 696 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 4: a decision, even if you say it right now, if 697 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 4: if Kyler is healthy, we're going with Jacoby. I don't 698 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 4: know that it's all the way. Oh yeah, it's over. 699 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 4: Never mind, Yeah it's over. I guess if you've benched 700 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 4: your high draft pick for and sit that outright, I 701 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 4: don't know. That's to me. I don't know that that's 702 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: a good decision as a coach to make that declaration. 703 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: I don't because you don't have to. You don't have 704 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 4: to sit there and say, if Kyler Murray he was healthy, 705 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: we'd still be playing Jacobe Brissett. You don't have to. 706 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: You don't have to take that strong of a stance. 707 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 4: But since he did, I mean, maybe it does sound 708 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 4: like maybe that is what it is. Maybe you know 709 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: he's over Kyler Murray. 710 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Not great by the way. 711 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 5: Also, C J. 712 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: Stroud is going to miss Sunday's game versus Jags. He's 713 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: got a concussion, so old long neck, Davis Mills is 714 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: going to get the start. 715 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: So so. 716 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Davis will be back under center for 717 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. He did sign an extension, by the way, 718 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: in the offseason, so they like him there. So now 719 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: that he'll be basically a must win game for Houston 720 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: at this point because the way the season's gone. So 721 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: no CJ. Stroud based on the concussion, and now you 722 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: know the way we go with Davis Mills getting the 723 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: start in a big division matchup against the Jags. So 724 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: a couple of quarterback updates for you guys. Some spicy 725 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: news out of the quarterback position in the NFL. 726 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 4: You know, is it spicy or just like a little spicy, 727 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: Because if it's a little spicy, well, you're gonna want 728 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: to go with some Louisiana hot. And if it's a 729 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 4: lot of spicy, you're gonna want to go with some 730 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: Louisiana He dig what I'm saying, So think about it right. 731 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 4: It's the original Louisiana hot sauce. It's the perfect balance 732 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: of peppery peppers and vinegar and salt. 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That's Louisiana Hot. 736 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 4: Make sure you bay you soon. 737 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 738 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next, we're gonna have 739 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: another edition of In Case You missed It right here 740 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: on FSR. 741 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 742 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 743 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 744 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio. 745 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 746 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: up top of next hour a little over ten minutes 747 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: from now, We're going to try something new on the show. 748 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to try something new. You've heard 749 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: coaches talk in the NFL, but what do they actually mean. 750 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into that for you again. Coming up here 751 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: a little over ten minutes from now. Before we get 752 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: to another edition of In Case You missed It, though, 753 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: I want to remind you this show sponsored by DraftKings 754 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL and 755 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: the NBA. And right now use the promo code two 756 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: pros to claim your special offer at DraftKings. Again, that's 757 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: Promo Code two pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours. 758 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 6: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 759 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 6: sports or entertainment. Good thing. The guys are here to 760 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 6: bring you in case you missed it. 761 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: And for that we turned it over to our executive producer, 762 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: the one and only Ryan Berschinger. Yeah, dude, what's up guys? 763 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 4: Good morning? 764 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 9: All right, Well, as we know, the NFL trade deadline 765 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 9: was real wild this year. In fact, maybe a little 766 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 9: too wild for brand In Bean's liking the GM of 767 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 9: the Bills. Brandon Bean had some thoughts as to why 768 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 9: it was such an active deadline. 769 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 10: And I think there's there's definitely a faction of you know, 770 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 10: the gms are coming in younger and there's more of 771 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 10: played true fantasy football and stuff like that, and they're 772 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 10: growing up in a world of trades. 773 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 4: So oh wow, that was like, that was shade. That 774 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: was definitely shade. Yeah, it's a sha grenade, but it 775 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 4: was a shade grenade. But I mean he's not. He's 776 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 4: not incorrect. It mean people are more acclimator. 777 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 5: It was different, it was. But can we acknowledge a 778 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 5: couple of things. Howie Roseman always makes deals. I'm pretty 779 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 5: sure he's older than Brandon Bean. I mean, we don't. 780 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 5: We never say that about Philly I mean John lynch Older. 781 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 5: We don't say that about the forty nine ers when 782 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 5: they're making deals of trying to figure stuff out. I 783 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 5: just I feel like it's convenient to say that when 784 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 5: in reality, you know, maybe there's some truth. But I 785 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 5: also think you're getting a new wave of general managers 786 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 5: who are more aggressive and they want to take an 787 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 5: active approach, like they're going forward on fourth down. As 788 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: a general manager, they're not the type that's gonna say 789 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna kick a field goal and that's okay, Like, 790 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 5: let those guys be be aggressive in this league. I 791 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 5: don't know that you get rewarded for choosing to punt 792 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 5: or choosing to go for the field goal. It feels 793 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 5: like you've got to be aggressive in order to make 794 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 5: something happen. 795 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 4: I feel like in older times people had more of 796 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: a relationship with the players, like have more of a bond, 797 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 4: like they meant something. I don't know that it's like 798 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 4: that anymore. I think I think players are more disposable 799 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 4: than what they've ever been. I think that it's just 800 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 4: it's easier to get rid of a guy. There's not 801 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 4: as much sentimental connection to there's not as many superstars, 802 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, and I wouldn't even say superstars, just developed 803 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: developed brands. I think that's just easier to get rid 804 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 4: of guys anymore. 805 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: But is that Are you closer to coaches back in 806 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: the day or gms? 807 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 4: It just the whole thing. I think everybody was closer 808 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 4: back then. I think that. I just think that it's 809 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 4: just different now, you know. And he might be right. 810 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 4: It might because some of these kids grew up on 811 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: Fantasy football and Madden. You know, he might be could 812 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 4: he be, could be onto something