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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is it Tuesday. We are really

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Speaker 1: really rolling today. Ryan Dale, Ohio State football coach Nick

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday. We're live. It's the Herd. Jmac

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Speaker 1: interesting story. The athletic kind of broke an interesting story,

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Speaker 1: John Hollinger where there were whispers in league circles that

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, and we talked about it on this show

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Speaker 1: was looking at Dallas as a landing spot. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this great frontline. Here comes Cooper flag better coach,

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Speaker 1: and you know, let's be honest, if he went to Dallas,

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Speaker 1: he would be the centerpiece, even though he's older. Lebron

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, every time he goes to a new team

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Speaker 1: for two years, it's like wow, whereas in LA it's

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Speaker 1: like Luca's team and everybody knows that new owners. It

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Speaker 1: kind of feels like it didn't have it against Lebron.

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Speaker 1: But he's not the future. But this is interesting, This

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Speaker 1: is really interesting. So the athletic does report. We've been

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Speaker 1: saying this now, I have been saying this for three

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Speaker 1: to four weeks. Dallas is a better place to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get Cooper Flag or Austin Reeves, I

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Speaker 1: get a d or DeAndre Ayton. But Lebron wasn't willing

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Speaker 1: and this is what killed it. According to John Hollingdry,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't willing to leave fifty two million on the

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Speaker 1: table for a mid level exemption. So think about that.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's a billionaire. He's a billionaire. And my take is

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Speaker 1: with Lebron Rich Paul told us it was all about winning,

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Speaker 1: it's not anymore. I think Michael Jordan's still in his head.

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Speaker 1: He knows in the basketball community, with basketball fans, he's

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Speaker 1: never going to catch MJ. MJ is six for six.

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Speaker 1: MJ is more memorable. MJ's got the logo, the brand,

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Speaker 1: and sells more shoes. He's more romanticized. Michael Jordan. There

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Speaker 1: are a dozen plays to this day that you close

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Speaker 1: your eyes and think about and you can see Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan do it unless you're driving with Lebron. There's one

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Speaker 1: that chase down block against the Warriors. That's it, and

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Speaker 1: so I think it Lebron at this point, he's never

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Speaker 1: going to catch him. He's never going to catch him

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Speaker 1: in net worth. MJ's networth is three point five billion dollars. Lebron,

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Speaker 1: even with the massive money he's paid, is one billion.

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Speaker 1: That's why you want throwing a basketball team. I think

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Speaker 1: he's chasing Michael. And here's the difference. Michael Jordan makes

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Speaker 1: high level salespeople will tell you you want to trigger emotion,

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Speaker 1: he makes you feel something and Lebron doesn't. Lebron has

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Speaker 1: I've never criticized him for that. I understand it. His

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Speaker 1: they couldn't get him another All Star. I was on

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Speaker 1: the bandwagon get to Miami me but my taking, you

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Speaker 1: probably should have stayed in Miami. In fact, I'd argue

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Speaker 1: the only time Lebron has ever made his feel something

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Speaker 1: that letter, I'm going back home. Major feel something. Then

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Speaker 1: but he's never made us feel anything. I said this

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Speaker 1: way works in politics works in sports. Michael Jordan still

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Lebron said it quote, my motivation is

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Speaker 1: The downside to wealth is that it starts to make

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Speaker 1: you feel you're great at everything. The Cowboys had a

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Speaker 1: great draft in twenty twenty. That's their last great one.

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Speaker 1: Six years ago was the greatest coach in the world,

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Speaker 1: Brad Stevens did with the Celtics. Very very good coach,

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Speaker 1: but he's like, you know, this coaching thing is hard

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Speaker 1: just gonna move upstairs be a GM. Eventually, a great

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Speaker 1: way to do it. You're seeing it in college football.

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Speaker 1: The smart coaches, they don't want to be GM. They

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk brilliant, dabbled in politics. Tesla stocks still down

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Speaker 1: Cowboys don't draft well. The Cowboys overpay for good players

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Speaker 1: and they're non existent last couple of years in free agency.

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Speaker 1: I said this a couple of years ago. How in

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Speaker 3: Pay for Saquon Barkley. How is that possible?

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is paying their quarterback, a receiver, tight ends, three

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Speaker 1: It feels like nobody's clapped in Dallas since Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: I was looking this morning. NFC Championship Game's most recent appearances.

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Speaker 1: The Bears, Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, Falcons, Saints, Bucks have all

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety five. And Jerry will never give up control.

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Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, believe him.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I gave every frigging thing in my life and then

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Speaker 5: doing what I want to do, You're wrong. It's just

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Speaker 1: That's the downside to wealth. You convince yourself you're great

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Speaker 1: at everything. And I mean think about this, justin coaching,

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Speaker 1: forget personnel. They let Dan Quinn walk to retain Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: A year later, McCarthy walks off out of Dallas, and

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Speaker 3: J mac. I am so fired up.

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Speaker 1: I saw a quote today somebody recently got an extension,

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Speaker 1: a contract extension in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It feels a little like Jordan Love and Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: Well. I feel like in the same division.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, we saw him in college and then he

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Speaker 1: it's great, but then there's other reports that are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this thing may not work out.

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Speaker 3: JM. J McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Almost ended up on another team in his division, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll never forget.

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Speaker 8: My parents would tell me, you know, I would read

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Speaker 8: While their first round pick is not signed. They drafted

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Speaker 4: But we had TJ.

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Speaker 4: Forty six years. The guy just keeps doing really cool,

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Speaker 1: where USC is located at, if La County was a country,

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Speaker 1: just La County, not Orange County, not Ventura County, La

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Speaker 1: County was a country, nineteenth biggest economy in the world.

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Speaker 1: And they drive less football revenue than Utah. And this

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Speaker 1: goes to something that for years and years people always

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Speaker 1: worry about market size and sports passion. Trump's market size.

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Speaker 1: Us SE is an incredibly distracted market.

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Speaker 3: Even in the.

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Speaker 1: NFL, Packers great franchise, the Chicago's, the Atlantas, the two

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Speaker 1: New York franchises mostly last twenty years, but been a mess.

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Speaker 1: Go to Nashville on a Saturday morning, I've been there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go to the Gate Meansville on Wednesday, people

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Speaker 1: are already parking and tailgaming. So and it's also, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's an old saying in politics. It's an interesting saying.

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Speaker 1: Democrats fall in love. Conservatives fall in line. They don't

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Speaker 1: get distracted, They find their candidate and they defend them.

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Speaker 1: They get in line. Democrats, guy has a great speech.

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Speaker 1: They fall in love. They don't agree with everything, they

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Speaker 1: fall out of love. Very emotional and I've said this

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Speaker 1: with college football got to be more like a Republican

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Speaker 1: fall in line. Don't worry about the rowing team, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about who else is doing well. If you want

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Speaker 1: to be a college football power, it's all football.

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Speaker 3: You gotta lean in.

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Speaker 1: And USC is highly political and highly distracted, and is

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Speaker 1: very concerned about all the programs getting theirs.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't drive revenue.

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Speaker 1: Utah, Iowa and Minnesota drive more football revenue than USC.

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Speaker 1: And here's and people are talking about their twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six recruiting class. Those guys aren't even on campus yet.

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Speaker 1: You can buy high school players and tweak your ratings

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Speaker 1: right now. The preseason All Big Ten teams came out

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Speaker 1: this morning. The first team All Big Ten offense, Indiana guy,

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Speaker 1: to Iowa guys, a Northwestern guy, No Trojans.

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Speaker 3: The defense.

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Speaker 1: Another Indiana guy, and another Indiana guy, and another Indiana guy,

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Speaker 1: and to Iowa guys and a Minnesota guy and an

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Speaker 1: Illinois player.

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Speaker 3: No USC trojans.

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Speaker 1: California economy fourth biggest in the world, new facility. When

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Speaker 1: you're donors and your boosters have a lot of agendas

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Speaker 1: and a lot of egos, and they're very distract that

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Speaker 1: is the great thing about college football New York Chicago

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Speaker 1: and right now LA don't have a power. Utah drives

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Speaker 1: more revenue. Madison, Wisconsin drives more revenue for their football program.

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Speaker 1: So and it's just really interesting is that we keep

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Speaker 1: waiting for this program to rebound and Lincoln Riley's been there.

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Speaker 3: What now this will be year four? They don't have

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Speaker 3: a single player.

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Speaker 1: And I think Camari Ramsey the safety is a really

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Speaker 1: good player. Elijah Page left tackle, really good player. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they can buy for Big ten honors. Year four. Not

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Speaker 1: a single player offense or defense, all Big ten Indiana,

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Speaker 1: It's got four. I always got four.

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Speaker 3: No Trojans.

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Speaker 1: So again it's this always this fear about big market passion,

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Speaker 1: Trump's passion, Trump's market size, passion, Trump's money. By the way, Texas,

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of They don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of national championships.

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Speaker 3: Take out vinj.

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Speaker 1: Young, they don't have a lot of natties. By the way, Texas, Austin,

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Speaker 1: Texas music scene, food scene, football a little bit distracted

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of billionaire big donors, pulling, pushing,

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Speaker 1: grabbing agendas. Yeah, Clemson didn't have a lot of those

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Speaker 1: Alabama didn't have a lot of those. Georgia didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of those. That is really interesting the ten

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Speaker 1: most valuable programs. Look at how little the average revenue

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Speaker 1: at usc IS. Isn't that crazy? By the way, they

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Speaker 1: could have three hundred million average revenue. But it's a

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Speaker 1: I think one of the really of all the positions

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Speaker 1: in football, the hardest position to draft in the first

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Speaker 1: round is wide receiver. Statistically over the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: there's more busts. I have a theory on that that

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Speaker 1: wide receiver is a it's an ego position, and it's

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Speaker 1: hard to ego before somebody's in the building, even if

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Speaker 1: you have sources. And so there are more first round

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Speaker 1: wide receiver busts over the last twenty years than any position.

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Speaker 1: And I've told GM friends this, I would almost never

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Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver in the first round, very few exceptions.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson was just Randy Moss just look different because

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Speaker 1: it's an ego position, and I'd rather they have to

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Speaker 1: fight their way to impress people. Amor On Saint Brown

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Speaker 1: fourth round, Pokin Nakoupa fifth round, Cooper Cup third round.

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Speaker 1: There's so many great receivers, second, third, fourth, fifth round.

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Speaker 1: I mean Jennings, Juwan Jennings for the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: is they're only receiver that's overachieved. Wasn't he a six

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Speaker 1: or a seventh round pick? So it's an ego position.

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Speaker 1: There are certain positions I would always draft in the

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Speaker 1: first round. Offensive tackle almost all, probably twenty eight of

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Speaker 1: thirty five of the great tackles of all time have

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Speaker 1: been drafted in the first round. The latest is Tristan Wurks,

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Speaker 1: who will go down as an all timer. Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 1: It's just that just generally where you get, there's only

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Speaker 1: so many people are six seven three point thirty with

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Speaker 1: great feet. But I always think it's interesting with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: More and more quarterbacks. It's always been about a fifty

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Speaker 1: percent hit rate in the first round. I think it's

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Speaker 1: getting to be a little bit higher than that. But

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Speaker 1: when you bail on a guy, because quarterback is so valuable,

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Speaker 1: I can see giving a running back another year, or

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher or a or a tight end. But

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Speaker 1: if you're wrong at quarterback, shouldn't you just bail? Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson's a great example. Now he's only twenty three years

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Speaker 1: old and he only started one year at Florida, so

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Speaker 1: it's very inexperienced.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't work at all.

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Speaker 1: He has had a top ten run game, better than

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Speaker 1: average O line, excellent offensive coach. He's getting worse, like

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Speaker 1: it's it's again. Josh Allen started slow, got really interesting, popped.

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Speaker 1: You can't go backwards, so it's interesting. Arizona moved off

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen after one year.

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Speaker 3: They were right. Pittsburgh moved off Kenny Pickett after two.

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Speaker 3: They were right. Niners moved off Trey Lance very early.

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Speaker 3: They were right.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland moved off Johnny Manziel eight starts, they were right.

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Speaker 1: Eagles signed Carson Wentz, then moved off him quickly.

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Speaker 3: They were right.

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Speaker 1: When you try to validate your draft pick, like the

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Speaker 1: Jags with Lake Bortles or the Giants with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: that is when you get into trouble.

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Speaker 3: You're lying to yourself, right, You're like trying to validate

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Speaker 3: your pick.

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Speaker 1: And I look at Anthony Richardson and he went from

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Speaker 1: fifty nine percent completion percentage. Then the NFL defensive coordinator's

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Speaker 1: got video on him. He's down to forty seven percent.

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Speaker 1: That's the lost of any quarterback in twenty five years

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Speaker 1: with fifteen starts. Right, So call the lawyers, get the

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Speaker 1: paperwork ready. It's divorced time. Like, I just don't think

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Speaker 1: it works. I know he's young, but I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it works. There was a game last year against

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Speaker 1: Houston one he hit his best throw as a pro,

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Speaker 1: seventy yards over the top. He stumbled, he was and

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Speaker 1: the kids got to By all accounts, he's a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: He kind of he got in the pressure. You see

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Speaker 1: it here, he stumbled out, he let it, let it

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Speaker 1: go right on the money. But it's not that he

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Speaker 1: misses on throws. Same game against Houston, he misses short

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Speaker 1: throws badly, like he's not remotely close. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: one of those things where you know a movie can't

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Speaker 1: just be about one great scene. You know you gotta

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Speaker 1: have even in the middle. You can be slow for

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Speaker 1: about ten minutes, but you got to make the story

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Speaker 1: arcs connect. When you see that seventy yard throw, you

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Speaker 1: could argue that Drew Brees couldn't make that throw in Peyton,

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Speaker 1: Manning and Tom Brady aren't making that throw, but they're consistent.

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Speaker 1: And I think with Anthony richardson every other position in football,

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Speaker 1: I am more than willing to give outside of maybe

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Speaker 1: left tackle, the guy can play or he can't, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you another year. But at quarterback, you're everybody's kind

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Speaker 1: of tied to it, and I think you get into

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Speaker 1: a situation right now in Indianapolis with Jonathan Taylor, Shane

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Speaker 1: Steikn good old line, weak division, it's getting worse. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even mentioning the incident last year when he took

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Speaker 1: himself out of a game, which I've never seen anything

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Speaker 1: like that in the history of the NFL for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't even I didn't even have a strong opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that doesn't work. That's not going to

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Speaker 1: engender yourself to your teammates. So, I mean, the Colts

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Speaker 1: ended the season last year, the offensive line was twelfth.

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Speaker 1: They were given him protection. You've got a good run game,

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Speaker 1: You've got a brilliant offensive guy who made Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: an MVP level quarterback, who had Justin Herbert as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and he broke every rookie quarterback mark, and his kid's

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Speaker 1: going backwards.

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Speaker 3: So I think at some point you got to ask

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Speaker 3: yourself that question.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the story that we

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Speaker 1: started the show where Lebron James was not willing to

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Speaker 1: take a mid level exception, but John Hollinger said there

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Speaker 1: were whispers around the league that he should strongly consider,

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Speaker 1: and he did going to Dallas. Now, I've said before,

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Speaker 1: I think Dallas is a much better situation going forward

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Speaker 1: than the Lakers. Who's your best young player for the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: It's Austin Reeves. For the Mavericks. It's Cooper Flag not close.

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Speaker 1: Who's your best big? DeAndre Ayton or Anthony Davis. Better

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Speaker 1: coach Dallas, better bench Dallas, more size Dallas. Not to

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Speaker 1: mention Lebron has played with Kyrie Irving and a d

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Speaker 1: And I said this, You could make a move to

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Speaker 1: get Lebron in Dallas. You could give up three first

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Speaker 1: round picks, which the Lakers would take. They may not

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Speaker 1: be great first round picks. They want draft capital. You

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Speaker 1: could give him two different bigs Gafford, PJ Washington, throwing,

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson, maybe a Max Christie. You got a real team.

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Speaker 1: So and I think it comes back, and it's funny

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Speaker 1: with Lebron and Rich Paul keeps saying it's about winning.

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Speaker 1: But to me, there's a reason Brady took pay cuts

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Speaker 1: and Tim Duncan took pay cuts. They just wanted to

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Speaker 1: win more. They told you by what they were taking,

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Speaker 1: they were willing they wanted to win more. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating that Lebron's made almost as much as anybody

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Speaker 1: in league history. I don't begrudge him one second, but

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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five. I mean, you could argue from

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Speaker 1: business standpoint, it doesn't matter. Lebron was going to come

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Speaker 1: to California. He was going to do all the Hollywood stuff.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't meant anything. I mean Hollywood, Chevron's left, in

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Speaker 1: and Out, Burgers left, Tesla's left, Hollywood's left, Oracles left.

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Speaker 1: If business in Texas right now is hummon, it's just

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Speaker 1: fine because part of the reason he came to LA.

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Speaker 1: Remember when he came to LA, it was not a

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Speaker 1: good roster, it was not a good organization. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Genie Buss was one of the least wealthy owners. Kobe's

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Speaker 1: last five years, it was the worst record in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: worse than Carolina, worse than Washington. So there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk He's going there for business, Well what business?

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Speaker 1: How many movies he in? I mean, they've got businesses

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Speaker 1: all over California leaving. So I just think it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: There's an executive that came out in Hoops Wire is

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Speaker 1: reporting one NBA exec said why didn't he join Cleveland?

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Speaker 1: He made quote, he made a mistake. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to sit here and tell somebody not to take fifty million.

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Speaker 1: But Lebron's a billionaire man, said the NBA exec. I'll

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Speaker 1: argue Cleveland and Dallas are championship teams with Lebron. And

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Yes, you get Luca in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: He's a great offensive player. Let me repeat that, he's

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Speaker 1: a great offensive player. There is a caveat with Luca.

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Speaker 1: He'll never be committed to defense. He'll never be an

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Speaker 1: elite defensive player or even very good. And he is

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Speaker 1: much more ball centric than anybody on Dallas, including Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 1: Luca needs the ball. He's not nearly as an effective

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Speaker 1: player off ball. He needs the ball and should have

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Speaker 1: it at this point Lebron's career. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: really it's just an interesting story that John Hollinger, who's

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Speaker 1: somebody that is tied into the league, said there were

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Speaker 1: whispers around the league about Lebron. He was looking at

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Speaker 1: Dallas and he decided against it. And the reasoning here

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Speaker 1: is he would not take a mid level.

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Speaker 3: Exception.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, Michael Jordan was underpaid the first

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Speaker 1: nine years of his career. He's making a really bad

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Speaker 1: contract early. So not to mention Texas no state tax,

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Speaker 1: California's thirteen three. If you care about that stuff, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, Lebron. I'm sure cares someone about it, but

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Speaker 1: most billionaires do. Lebron has made five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: eight million in just NBA contracts. That's got to be tops, right,

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Speaker 1: That tops all time, has to be tops. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you add this year's contract, that has to be

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Speaker 1: tops in NBA history. So the Dallas thing, it is tops.

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Speaker 8: Yah.

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Speaker 1: For a while, it was Kevin Garnett that then it

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Speaker 1: was Kobe Bryant. Now it's Lebron. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I've don't you. Jmck think that is like the idea.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm not here to mess with the guy's money.

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Speaker 1: But when you're the highest paid guy in the history

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Speaker 1: of a sport and you can move to your hometown

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Speaker 1: or an incredibly business friendly state where you could play

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Speaker 1: with Kyrie ad a better coach and the great domestic star.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing with Lebron. Whenever Lebron goes somewhere,

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Speaker 1: even though Cooper Flagg is we're all very excited when

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Speaker 1: Lebron moves to a team. For the first two years,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he's the best player or not.

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Speaker 1: He's the most interesting part of the team. Dwayne Wade

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Speaker 1: May had the keys of the city. It was Lebron's team.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be conspiracy theory guys. So I

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Speaker 4: did read the article this morning.

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Speaker 8: I saw it, so then I just went back to

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Speaker 8: it about three minutes ago, and the article has been

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Speaker 8: wiped off the internet.

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Speaker 4: Now, that could just be my phone and my computer.

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Speaker 8: But I wonder, I mean, Colin, the idea of Lebron

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Speaker 8: going from fifty two to a mid level exception kind

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Speaker 8: of sort of lunacy. There's zero chance he was doing that, right,

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Speaker 8: Why on earth would he take that much money less?

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Speaker 8: I mean, Michael Jordan remember at the end, demanded to

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Speaker 8: be the highest paid player in the league. I'm sure

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Speaker 8: you remember those days. He was like making like thirty something, which.

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Speaker 3: The Lebron is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael made ninety three million playing. Yeah, Lebron's made

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Speaker 1: almost six hundred.

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Speaker 8: Again, it's ninety three million in nineteen ninety was, you know,

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Speaker 8: a metric ton of money.

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Speaker 1: But I.

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Speaker 4: Colin, you're not as competitive as me.

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Speaker 8: You know, I do sports and I like try to

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Speaker 8: stack my teams and win all these championships. There, No,

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Speaker 8: that's not me, right now, Why would Lebron not want

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Speaker 8: to play with a friends and.

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Speaker 4: Be on a sack team. Why would you want to

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Speaker 4: be on a bad team.

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Speaker 8: Like the idea that, yeah, you got Cooper Flag and

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Speaker 8: my guy Kyrie and my guy.

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Speaker 4: Ady, can we link up? How can I get over there?

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Speaker 8: I'm sure that crossed his mind, But the reality is

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Speaker 8: there was no chance that was ever happening, right none.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just these new owners were the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: They got their eye on re signing Luca.

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Speaker 3: It's very odd.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron's made a lot of business decisions. He

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Speaker 1: is the ultimate NBA opportunist and I will defend that

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Speaker 1: to the ends of the earth. I have no problem

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Speaker 1: with mobility. Cleveland couldn't get him good players. Miami got

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Speaker 1: old really fast. He went to the Lakers. They that

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Speaker 1: was a business move because they weren't the best. They

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Speaker 1: didn't have the best roster. There were were many able.

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Speaker 1: They were horrible. But I don't think LA's paid him off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, where all the movies would

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Speaker 1: have been done?

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Speaker 4: Is it yet to hand pick the coach and his

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Speaker 4: sons on the team.

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Speaker 3: How's that worked?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. They were third seed in the West,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Bronni's in the NBA. That's exciting.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have done that in plea one couldn't do that

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Speaker 1: Dallas really, Nick Wright, Ryan Day both Next

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Speaker 2: Hour mm hmm