1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to almost Famous The Ogs, the Podcast of 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: the Stars. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 3: I just added that part. I don't know where that 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: came from. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Day two, Day two of the Pebble Beach Extravaganza with 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: my beautiful and handsome co host Andrew Firestone. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: Standing in for Trista standing in for Trista early on 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: for Dear Life. 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: You're doing a fantastic job, buddy. Let's recap our final 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: interview of last night. Just to bring you guys up 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: to speed. We got a chance to speak with Tim, Keith, 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: Keith and uh. Keith was sitting where I was sitting 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: where you are, and Andrew was there, and Keith was here, 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: and I believe the interview opened with Keith going, I 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: just got to tell you, guys, I don't even remember 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: who the hell you are, and I thought you were 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: a dick. 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: So Keith, I think he had had a couple of 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: glasses of Hawaii from dinner, I remember. 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: So, I think. 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: I think interviewing Keith is not dissimilar to drinking out 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: of a fire host. 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 5: No, he did not have anything to say. 25 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: No, No, we didn't hear and listen super reserved took 26 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: a while to get him out of his show. 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: But you know, once once we once we got him out, 28 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: we scratched the surface. 29 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: A little boy came out. My goodness. Yeah, we learned 30 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: a lot though. 31 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: You could see why I kept him around for so long. 32 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: He's so entertaining, he's such a great guy. 33 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: He's a party and party in a pocket that I know. 34 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: The party centers on Keith. 35 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, they broke the mold on them. They 36 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: sure did, buddy, they shared it. 37 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: Well. 38 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: Welcome to show you, guys. 39 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: We've got Joan and Chock here, of course, the golden 40 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: Bachelorette couple that came off the show, which we're very, 41 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: very proud of, you guys. And I was thinking about 42 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: it earlier today and I even brought it up to Joan, 43 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, we didn't do these things 44 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: when Andrew and I were the Bachelor. We didn't do 45 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: like organized events where we got together with our discarded 46 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're saying like I was a 47 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: lovable loser for trist this season. Probably in no wife a. 48 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Cell phone back then. 49 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, wagons would have taken forever hot assembly pigeons. 50 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, by telegraph. 51 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: But but you know, it's it's nice that we get 52 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: to get to together like this and get to see 53 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: you like I love to seeing Chalk inter you know, 54 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: interact with all of his guys from this from your season. 55 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: Is it nice for you? 56 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, is it nice to get together and see 57 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: the guys Chalk and absolutely? 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 5: Yet yesterday we had a couple of ranks just reminisced 59 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: about the Bachelor Mansion, the journey that we all had, 60 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: just catch it up. 61 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be. 62 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun because I know I like 63 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: to get together with the guys from Trista's season. She 64 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: wasn't there necessarily, so it's it could be a blessing 65 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: and a curse for you, I would guess. But it's 66 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: about to be really nice for you to get to 67 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: see see of those guys too. 68 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: So I love seeing it because you know, you give 69 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: up a lot of your life to be on that show. 70 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: So you know, sending somebody home is really hard, and 71 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: like those Rose ceremonies were like torture for me. I 72 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: hated it. I hated it because even if you don't 73 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: have a love connection with them, you have a friendship, 74 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: your form friendships no matter what. So to see that 75 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: they came out whole and like really good and at 76 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: least got friendships out of this. And you know, like 77 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: they all said, they all kind of had this therapy. 78 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: They had these moments that they were in this weird place, 79 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, in their life in their sixties and fifties 80 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: and sixties, we didn't have many seven year olds, but 81 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: and found themselves single and found this tribe of people 82 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: that were experiencing the same thing, and then got to 83 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: like work through some of their issues that they had 84 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: kind of been holding in because there aren't a lot 85 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: of people like us. I mean, like I had almost 86 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: no friends that were my age and single, and I'm 87 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: sure these guys didn't either. So they came off this 88 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: journey kind of whole and with this great group of friends, 89 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: even if they didn't get a love connection. 90 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kind of a like Andrew was saying yesterday, 91 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: you said it a few times, there's a positive value 92 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: that comes out of doing something like Yes. 93 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: I think one thing that I noticed just from talking 94 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: to some of the crew last night and watching them 95 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: all interact, and I was thinking of the dichotomy of 96 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: when I was on the show when I was twenty 97 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: six versus doing the show now at a more mature age, 98 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: where you have confidence that's not bravado, meaning you're not cocky, 99 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: but you have a confidence because you've you've done things, 100 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: you've raised kids, you've had a career, and you come 101 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: in with a with an experience and a perspective that's 102 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: completely different than some of the that the young you know, 103 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: quote unquote younger bachelors, because they're just starting their life off. 104 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: They don't know what they. 105 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Like right, they don't know where they're going, they don't 106 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: have an experience, and I mean they have, you know, 107 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: kind of this optimism and kind of a doe look 108 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: in their eyes. But I think that the perspective that 109 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: this gives is like, no, no, no, I have you know, 110 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: I have done this, I've been there, and this is 111 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: actually what I want. Yeah, And that's that's a confidence 112 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: that's earned as opposed to taken. 113 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: Sure. 114 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that that plays a little bit 115 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: into the drama that happens in the younger of acheloues 116 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: because I don't think that they have, like you said, 117 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence that they're just trying to figure 118 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: themselves out and they are. I think that their backstories 119 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: aren't big enough to carry a season of making them interesting. 120 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: So what makes the season interesting is the drama. 121 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 122 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: So they just don't have enough. They haven't lived enough life. 123 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: And when you're younger, too, everything offends you. 124 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean when you're funny, like, yeah, 125 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: you know, I watched Shock last night, and you handle 126 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: it so well. You know, you have this this kind 127 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: of quiet confidence about you which I really admire. And 128 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: you're in the restaurant there and you know, someone comes 129 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: over and you know they you know, I mean and 130 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: Andrew and I have talked about this and laughed about 131 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: this over the years because people will come up and 132 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: they go, I've never watched your show, but I want 133 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: to get a picture with you. And you have to 134 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: determine in that moment. Okay, am I going to be like, 135 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: well then why do you want to picture with me? 136 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: Or do I just go all what the HELLP? 137 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: And so what the hell? 138 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 5: Got right? 139 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: I mean, I watched you do it. I watch you know, 140 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: and it's kind of funny. I got to that point 141 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: probably later in the beginning. 142 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: I was probably like, if you didn't watch the show, 143 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: why you interrupted dinner. 144 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 145 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: Has a lot of men that go, well, I want 146 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: to take a picture with you so I can get 147 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 5: it to my wife. 148 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Share, I'm curious. 149 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: So, you know, on your path or your journey. I 150 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: hate using those words, but what were what were the 151 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: anxiety points? What were the things? Was it a career, 152 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: was it family? Was it your own you know, worried 153 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: about getting your own heart broken? Was there anything that 154 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: was kind of stuck out as an anxiety point as 155 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: you went through for those you know, those months where 156 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: you're like kind of on an island, like you don't 157 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 4: have that support around you for a little while, So 158 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: don't you're all you're all alone and like in the 159 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, in the and when it gets dark and 160 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: you're you're sitting in bed, you're like, this. 161 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Is what and you get it so well because you 162 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: did it and yeah. 163 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: Well, the only people you didn't talk to are these 164 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: producers who then you're the whole time you're thinking they 165 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: have agenda? Are they working their agenda? Do I have 166 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 2: to rethink everything I say to these people? 167 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. That's such a good question, 168 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: because you are so alone, you don't have your friend, 169 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: you don't have your family, You have nobody to balance 170 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: any ideas off of it, and you also have nobody 171 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: to meet the people, so you are completely in charge 172 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: of making the judgment, and you don't ever know if 173 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: everybody is really showing their true selves. Are they showing 174 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: their Bachelor TV shelves or selves or are they showing 175 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: you who they really really are? So and you have 176 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to spend with 177 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: people unless they have an individual date, which you'll only 178 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: have what I think I had. I think I had seven, yeah, and. 179 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: I think that's more actually than a normal season. I 180 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: think normally you have four individual dates and then the 181 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: rest are group dates. 182 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 183 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Because I don't remember, but I mean there's a lot 184 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 2: of time and several vodkas I go, but I don't remember, 185 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: But I think it's I think your season had more. 186 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really lucky. I asked for more, Like 187 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: they said, what do you want? And I was like, 188 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: I think you need more time with people. Like those 189 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: group dates. They're fun, but and you see like little 190 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: things about people, but you never get to have like 191 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: serious conversations. So I think my anxiety came exactly from 192 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: what you guys are talking about those late nights where 193 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: you're wondering, am I seeing the true person? Like I 194 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: need somebody that I can trust to talk to, and 195 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: you have nobody, and you're just you're out on an island. 196 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: You're making the decisions all by yourself. And I'll said 197 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: some guilt about like moving on and that myke, you 198 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this before. About my kids 199 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of thought, Okay, well, this is like Mom's new life. 200 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: She's going to be kind of ours and maybe a 201 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: little at our service because we have my grandchildren now. 202 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: And I think that it was a little hard for 203 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: them to accept that. You know, I had in my mind, 204 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: like thirty two, I had thirty two great years of John. 205 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: I thought I have thirty two more years possibly that 206 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I could have another great love in my life and 207 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I was going to find that. And they kind of 208 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: had to like adjust to that that thought. So I 209 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: had a little guilt I was dealing with while it 210 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: was air. 211 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: It's something mother's guilt is so interesting, it's so difful, 212 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: it's awful. 213 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: So what about you, Chuck, Like, what was what was 214 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: your you know, because you're you're obviously your professional. You 215 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: have your job, you have all you you have your 216 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: life there and now you're kind of removing you you're 217 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 4: taking a hiatus from that. And was there anything that 218 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: it was keeping you up at night? Was there anything 219 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: that was that was worrying you about about this? 220 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: I mean you also had the option to leave, but like, 221 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: what what was your what was your anxiety? 222 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 5: Very fair question and my best answer on that is, 223 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 5: I really don't have anxiety. Been through a lot of 224 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: my life and you just deal with it. It's life. 225 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: That's the journey of life. In these chapters what I'm 226 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 5: a guy that sits it. I'll get nervous or anxious. 227 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 5: Where do I put my car keys? It's the little stuff. Yeah, 228 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: stuff going, you know, I've got to deal with it. 229 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 5: And so with Joan, I just knew right away, and 230 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: people asked, they go, when was the moment? There was 231 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 5: a lot of moments. We got along very well in 232 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: the Disneyland day, but I watched her handle these other 233 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: men and we're both very social and guys friends, and 234 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: I go, I need somebody. I want somebody in my 235 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: life like that that's eloquent, that's caring for other people. 236 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: And so that anxiety you just never existed, because I go, 237 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: I do right away within a couple of just times 238 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 5: that we had together. As far as the other guys, 239 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: there were some really good guys and I knew there 240 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: was two of them that really cared for Joan. And again, 241 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: I think when you're older, you're going It was Joan's 242 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 5: decision of who she took to the end, and you 243 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: just have to say, that's fate. Whatever happens happened. Yeah, 244 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 5: and we've all had loves in her life and it 245 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: wouldn't worked out. I would have been hurt, but I 246 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: wasn't going to be anxious about it going. She needs 247 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: to make the decision, the right decision for her, sure, 248 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: because she was the lead, right one of us could 249 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: have said, hey we're out. Yeah, and I respect somebody. 250 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: I had a conversation no names with somebody yesterday and 251 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: they go it just wasn't you know, it wasn't going 252 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: to work with the two of it. That's okay. 253 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's certain people that like kind of end up 254 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: in friend zone pretty early. And can you guys get 255 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: like you and the man get it and you can 256 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: see it and you can feel it. And I certainly 257 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: was in friend zone with some people, but like I 258 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: needed the friends too. Sure, So you know, sometimes you 259 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: keep friends along on the journey because you need them, 260 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Like you can't just have all, you know, possible love interests. 261 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: I was trist as friend zone. Yeah, I know, I know, 262 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: but I felt it too. 263 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: You knew it? 264 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Like I literally started advocating for Ryan. 265 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: And She'll tell you this that I literally was like, 266 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: got that guy, man, you know, because she I think 267 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: I told Andrew the story last night. I thought someone 268 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: She comes home from a date that I was not 269 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: on and it was like a one on one date 270 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: or whatever. And she comes home and I'm there with 271 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, the other fifteen guys in the mansion, and 272 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: it's it's a frat party. 273 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: It's going off, and she's like. 274 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: Pulls me aside because I'm the leader of the party. 275 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, She's like, why would I go 276 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: on a date with you? I come back and everyone's 277 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: reading the Bible and meditating, but I go on a 278 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: date without you, and I come back to this, I'm 279 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: not for the record ryants and they're writing poetry for you. 280 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think you're right. 281 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: People know kind of where they're at right from the beginning, 282 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, And there might be a reason I was 283 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: going to ask you as this too, because you do 284 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: navigate this stuff very well and very similarly, you know, 285 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: very you guys have a nice energy about you. 286 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: Do you ever get tired of feeling like you have 287 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: to defend your relationship? Do you know what I mean? 288 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: Like you you come off of a TV show and 289 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, this can't be real. 290 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 291 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the couples from The Bachelor, 292 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: uh franchise prior to the Golden failed as a result 293 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: of always feeling like they had to defend that relationship 294 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: because it's an additional pressure. 295 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: Feel like our body language when we're we're in public, 296 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: work together. Yeah, just tells everyone. It's the Internet where 297 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 5: people just want to pick you apart in everything. So 298 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: the solution of that, like Joe Rogan says, don't read it. Yeah, 299 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: just stay away and you don't have any of those 300 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 5: problems because we could. I mean, it could be absolutely 301 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 5: perfect and somebody out there in this world's going to 302 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: go it's not. Yeah, but we have a great time together. 303 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: We were It's like we've said this numerous times. It's 304 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: like we've been married five or ten years. Yeah, there 305 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: was a reason we ended up together, and we just 306 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 5: compliment each other or we just go okay, you. 307 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, he's super easy. Yeah, I mean I have 308 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: to I'm probably not the easy part of this relationship. 309 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: So he goes with the flow, which is thank you 310 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: very much, because I have a lot of other stuff, 311 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: as he knows, with the family and stuff. You know, 312 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm like the matriarch, so I have a lot of. 313 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: Close to our hotel room here. You know, we need 314 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 5: one three times. 315 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But I do feel like I do 316 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: feel a little responsible for making people think or know 317 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that this is real and first and I don't know 318 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: why I feel this responsibility, but like I want them, 319 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: I want people to know that this can really work. 320 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: And then it does work with a lot of people, 321 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: and especially. 322 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: When it's working for you, because it's people are going 323 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: to always have that sort of judgmental skepticism. Yeah, that immediately, 324 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: and you know, I think, you know, I I remember 325 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: feeling that kind of pressure. 326 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 327 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: And we obviously we didn't make it to the end clearly, 328 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: but I remember feeling that kind of pressure and thinking, 329 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, God, how do these other people deal with it, 330 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: you know, and it was kind of interesting, you know, 331 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: and I wondered if you guys, if you guys felt. 332 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: That definitely, and especially like on the heels of Gary 333 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: and Traesa not working out, like I feel I actually 334 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: going into the season, I felt like maybe I was 335 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: responsible for like this, like this golden continuing. If I 336 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: didn't make it and then they didn't make it, They're 337 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, it doesn't work for the stage group. 338 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: So I did feel a little bit of pressure, but 339 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna let that detect my decision because this 340 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: is still my life. 341 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: So I wasn't a letter. 342 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: So I happily found my person. So I feel responsible. 343 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: I want that to be out there. And we've even 344 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: done we did an Instagram post one time when I 345 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: was just sick of it and we were we were 346 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: in California and we were in LA for something, I 347 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: don't remember what it was for, and we came home 348 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: from being out dinner and I was like, let's just 349 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: like talk and so we laid in bed and I'm like, 350 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand why people don't think we're not real 351 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Like here we are. We're in California, we were together 352 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: all the time, we were together like every other week. 353 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we make efforts to each other and they 354 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: still don't believe it. And we post, and then the 355 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: other thing happens is you post and people like, oh, 356 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: you're just in it for the fame. I'm like, well, 357 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't win here, Yeah, you can't. 358 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: Wait, you can't win because if you show them the proof, Well, 359 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: why do you feel like you have to show us? 360 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly the same. 361 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: I can't win here. So what does life look like 362 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: for you guys? Now? 363 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: What I mean not looking down the road, but like 364 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: right now, what is what what's life for for you guys? 365 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Now? 366 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: A lot of travel, a lot of you you're off 367 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: to a little vacation and we'll give it away. But 368 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: you guys, so this is the fun part. 369 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Is the fun part, you know, this is the part 370 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: that so when you're our age, you've spent your whole 371 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: life like planning for this time in your life. You know, 372 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: you've raised your family, you've built your careers, you've you know, 373 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: maybe got made a little money, so you have some 374 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: resources where you can finally kind of just have fun. 375 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: And we are finally at that point in our life. 376 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, like I didn't have 377 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: anybody to have that fun with and and you didn't either. 378 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: So we found each other and now we can start 379 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: that part of our life. And so we really are. 380 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: We've traveled a lot. We go to New York City 381 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: all the time. He's come to Maryland a bunch of times. 382 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: I've been to Kansas, planned to go back, of course, 383 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: and then we're going to we're finally going on a 384 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: vacation just the two of us. We haven't been able 385 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: to do this. 386 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the batchel of captures like kind 387 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: of these different chapters, like kind of four chapters. I 388 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: think in life, there's like, you know, adolescence, then there's 389 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: that kind of young period, and then child raising and 390 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: family and career building, and then this chapter and Bacheler 391 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: catches chapter two in chapter four and that the chapter three, 392 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: which is where where I am and what is It's like, 393 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's you know, it's a lot of work, 394 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: it's a lot of responsibility, and it's not you know, 395 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: it's not as exciting as where you guys are. It's 396 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: not as exciting where chapter two was, which is a 397 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: kind of like optimistic, the world's you know, my oyster 398 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: whatever else. But I think it's really cool that you 399 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: guys have had those three chapters individually, that perspective, that 400 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: confidence that you know, that that life experience, and now 401 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: you're like, both, yes, this is what we want to do. 402 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: I want to do it. Do you want to do it? 403 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: I want to do it when together? And if you 404 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: don't total that's okay, that's fine, and you don't, and so. 405 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: I think that's that's like this this kind of bond 406 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: that you guys have, that that the younger bachelors don't 407 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: have yet. 408 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do want to do this on your podcast. 409 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: I want to announce we are going to adopt a baby. 410 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: You heard it here first anybody. 411 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 5: My father, my father and my mother both adopted people. 412 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: So I've been through that. 413 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: Yes, jo I'll die. 414 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 5: I love. 415 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: Like guys this one f y were getting married tomorrow night. 416 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: He's doing this. 417 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: We also so part of the podcast, we're actually we 418 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: have a baby Labrador Retriever, a little puppy. 419 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna give you would your voyage. 420 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: I already have a dog. I don't need another dog. 421 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: But he is like an adopted dog. 422 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: So we're going to speak to that point too that 423 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, be remiss if we don't mention that. Obviously 424 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: the The Golden Bachelor they divorced, they kind of and 425 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: we've talked about this. They had rushed into the marriage 426 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: scenario and and you guys seem to have your own timeline. 427 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: About it, which which is no timeline. 428 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: It's just like, you know what, we're just riding with it. 429 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: And I I had actually even said at that time 430 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: and I and I did not know either those those 431 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: people there, Gary or. 432 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah I think I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. 433 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, so I didn't want to judge, 434 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: Like everyone's like, what do you think? And I'm like, 435 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't know them, So I don't know, I said, 436 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: but I I don't know why there would be a 437 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: rush at this stage in the game two to do 438 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: that when you have family where you're where you're at, 439 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: and you have family where you're at in Kansa, It's like, 440 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 2: why would you try and up end everything? 441 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: You know? 442 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: It's like, let's just roll with it to be a 443 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: part of each other's lives. Yeah, I mean I think 444 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: it's pretty I think that speaks volumes as well, because 445 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: I think that the pressure for the younger bachelor people 446 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: are Okay, now you're now you're engaged, Now you gotta 447 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: ge married, married, let's go. 448 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: You know. 449 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: I didn't have the whole thing getting married, but but Jen, 450 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 4: who I was with my season, lived in Chicago and 451 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: I was in San Francisco, and so I felt where 452 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: we both felt this compulsion were like she needed to 453 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 4: be with me or I need to be with her, 454 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 4: and we decided to San Francisco. But I didn't realize, 455 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 4: or we didn't realize, we're upending her entire life. So 456 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: not only were we making this transition to now we're 457 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 4: going to be together, but her job, her house, like 458 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: all this stuff, her friends, and I didn't have the 459 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: perspective on it, probably to be cautious enough about it, 460 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: or be or be mindful enough about it, like look 461 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: at all of this stuff for giving up. 462 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: All I thought was we're together, this is fun, and 463 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: we're gonna go. 464 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: Do this and this, And you know what, I did 465 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: not give the consideration that she had just basically just 466 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: kind of pulled the ripcord on everything that she had 467 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: done up until that point, which was hers on her 468 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: own and now it's just like now we're together. And 469 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: that was you know, I mean the press and the 470 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 4: I'll put that aside. It was just two people that 471 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: all of a sudden were like instantly without you know, 472 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: kind of leaning into it, without speeding up into it, 473 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: which is like you know, we're at we're at max 474 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: capacity right away. 475 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And a huge responsibility for you because all of 476 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: a sudden you have like this dependent yeah, like like 477 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: she's not your equal anymore. Like she didn't have her 478 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: life and you had your life. Now you have your 479 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: life and she has nothing. 480 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I didn't and I didn't put that. 481 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: I didn't give that enough care, I think, and in 482 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: hindsight now you know, with you know, looking back, of course, 483 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: I see that. 484 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: But I just don't think that I was careful enough 485 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: with that. And I regret. 486 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: That's amazing that the canyon and we've gone through that 487 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: the region our marriage recently, you know. But I upended 488 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: us and moved us to Michigan. Yeah, she gave up everything, 489 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: and it was like and I wasn't as thoughtful as 490 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: I should have been about it either, because I was 491 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: thinking about, oh, my dad's health and you know, I 492 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: had these other things that were motivating us and motivating me, 493 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: I guess, and uh, yeah, you don't realize that's that's 494 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: really thoughtful of you to think like that because. 495 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: And even you know, with my my wife, we've been 496 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: married now seventeen years in July, and but she to 497 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: raise kids, you know, like she gave up all of 498 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: her life there as well. And I'm thinking, you know, 499 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 4: this is what you need to do, and this is 500 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: you know, she wants to do it. 501 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: I want to do it. 502 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: But now you like think of all of the sacrifices 503 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: that she made in order to give us this happy life, 504 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: which is amazing. But there's a part of it that 505 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: she had to sacrifice way more than I did. Sure, Yeah, Kevin, 506 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: the moment, in the moment, I'm like, no, this is 507 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: what we both want, right, this is what we want. Okay, 508 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Never thought about 509 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: what the sacrifice was. 510 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, even if you like don't move or you don't 511 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know, make any big changes like as 512 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: far as location, you know, when you have kids, there 513 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: are sacrifices at that point. And so like I gave 514 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: up my career, I was a I was a computer programmer. 515 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: I wrote code, and I gave it my career to 516 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: like raise my kids. But when the kids are raised, 517 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: that's when it really hits you, because then all of 518 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, wow, my kids are out of 519 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: the house. 520 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: Am I going to do? 521 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: Just getting a really weird place to be as a 522 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: woman when you give up everything and all of a sudden, 523 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: like do I go like buy tennis outfits and start 524 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: playing tennis? Like there's this weird like what do I 525 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: do now with myself? I actually went back and I 526 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: got my interior design degree, but it was like kind 527 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: of out of the blue, all of a sudden, I 528 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: felt very useless. Yeah, so you do degree. 529 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 5: I have new pillows. Yeah, bedrooms been. 530 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: Coffee table will create h you know, coffee table tapestries. 531 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: Ye, posters off the wall. That's a shame. I used 532 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: to love that Cali brock post. 533 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 4: I think that whatever you know, I mean, you know 534 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 4: for seventeen years, what you can be is additive to 535 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: the other person's life, you know, and and and recognizing 536 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: like them independently, not just as a couple. And this 537 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: is a you know, something that I'm going through right now. 538 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: It's like recognizing not only the importance of a couple, 539 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: but recognizing the importance of that individual, And how can. 540 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: I be additive to their life? How can I how 541 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: can I be supportive? 542 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 4: And it's challenging because you know, so much of life 543 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: is me, me, me, Like, like what do I do? 544 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: Even if I'm thinking that I'm being generous, it's a 545 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: lot of it's in my own head. 546 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: Sure what am I? 547 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: You know? 548 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking about at least. I mean, you guys are 549 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: like such mature husbands and father is way more mature 550 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: than anybody I knew, Like when I was raising my kids. 551 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that the I don't even know what, like 552 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: the like this family intelligence you have and like awareness 553 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: of your family situation is like really impressive. I just 554 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: have to say that. 555 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: Wow, it's a curve though, I mean, like it's such 556 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 4: a learning curve. And you know, turning fifty this year. 557 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: Like I look back when I was twenty six doing 558 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: the show or twenty seven, whoever it was, and I'm like, 559 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: I was such a baby. 560 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 5: Oh I was. 561 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: I was. I was such a kid. I didn't know you, No, 562 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know it. 563 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: But it takes a lot of living to get this mature. 564 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 4: Yes, but also it also takes a lot of talking 565 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: about it, right, I mean a little like through the 566 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: show and we were talking with the Gentleman last night, 567 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: to Guy and Gary, it's like they learned a little bit. 568 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: They learned a little bit about themselves, and like this 569 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 4: next chapter that they're in right now, maybe they have 570 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: sharpened like what it is that they want and by 571 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: by going having to sit on a couch like this 572 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: and talk to us and say it over and over again, 573 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: it's important to you. What are your priorities and how 574 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: do you want to spend your life? Yeah, I think 575 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 4: it's I think it's good to talk it through. 576 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 577 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: It makes you think about the things that are important 578 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: instead of just like y're in your head and then 579 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: you forget about them when you know something comes up. 580 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: The child raising years of the toughest you guys will 581 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: ever go through. Yeah yeah, and then you know health 582 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: comes at that period or later with yourself, with your parents, 583 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: with your loved ones. But it's just, I mean, you're 584 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 5: so active. I think you said three kids, yeah, yeah, 585 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: and you've got two too. I mean you're just active. 586 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 5: And men have this is my opinion. Men have evaulved 587 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 5: back in my dad's generation, there's a lot more divorce 588 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 5: and men are so much more active and raising kids 589 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 5: now than what they did. I trust me. I'm with 590 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: your psychotherapy on this. 591 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 592 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: And it's just you are because I bet you guys 593 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: go to the soccer games, you go, you know, you 594 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 5: might even go to practice, but you're involved so much more. 595 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's keeping people together. 596 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's tough. 597 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: I mean, can we do it again? 598 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: Raise babies I love? 599 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, great, but it's just so much work. 600 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: I mean, could possibly be like I could probably honestly 601 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: say that those were the best times of my life. 602 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean I felt such love and we had such 603 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: close friend groups. Because you're with your kids, friends, parents, 604 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: like all the time. You like, you formed these really 605 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: really close connections, so you feel very supportive and you're 606 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: all doing it together, which is really fun. But I 607 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, I had zero time for myself. 608 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: I don't think. 609 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I got a facial or a massage 610 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: or like, I only think I got my nails done 611 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: for like ten years. 612 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: All the time. 613 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: She literally just said this morning she went to the 614 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: gym at six am, and I'm like, what are you doing. 615 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: You have a chance to sleep. 616 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: In now, granted, like you we got because and she's like, 617 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't have a chance to do this at home. 618 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: No, you know, I'm going to I'm going to go 619 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: to the. 620 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Gym and when you guys go to golf, I'm gonna 621 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: lay in my bed until Hannah tells me not to. 622 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: I love that. 623 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: So two nights ago, or sorry, a few nights ago, 624 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: is driving my son back from soccer practice, like nine 625 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: thirty at night, and I'm enting, I'm like, it's dark 626 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 4: and late and I'm tired of work in the morning, 627 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And then he just said to me, 628 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 4: just nonchalantly, just said, well, dad, you know in two 629 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 4: months I get my license. 630 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: And I literally like teared up and I couldn't breathe 631 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: for a second. 632 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, it is encompassing. It does take all 633 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: your time. I you know, you know all those things, 634 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: but man, what it's gone. I'm gonna miss it because 635 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: it doesn't come back. 636 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: Because those car conversations are so valuable. You get the 637 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: best conversations because you're not eyed eye with them. You're 638 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: looking at the road and you can and they say 639 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: things to you that they would never say if you 640 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: were sitting across from them. 641 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: Right, offer some advice, yes, drivers, and then pay for extrat. 642 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: Make it, make it long, because. 643 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 5: Sons don't want to listen to you. They don't let 644 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: somebody else teach them how to drive. 645 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: Yes, but that's a captive audience in the car is 646 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: you know, driving to tournaments and doing whatever else like, 647 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 4: and it's just you know, they're they're there and I 648 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: don't let them use their phone when in the car. 649 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: And it's so incredibly valuable. And when he said that, 650 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, this is a chapter that's closing. Yeah, 651 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: that child raising for you know, for him in that 652 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: period is that chapter is closing and it's not opening 653 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: back up against. 654 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: Chapters. And I went through that, especially with my son. 655 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: What was really neat is when he turned twenty one, 656 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: he and I went to a stake place and he 657 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: ordered to drink. Yeah, and it was just he's a man, 658 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: you know. And then he was in college and then 659 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 5: he just recently graduated and moved to North Carolina and 660 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: you miss him. But it's you know, they've got to 661 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: go live their life. They spread their wings and find 662 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 5: out who and what they want. 663 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't dread like like that. I hated, you know, 664 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: my kids learning how to drive and growing up and 665 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: going to college. But when they come back, like like 666 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: great humans and adults, they are really fun too to 667 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: have around. So like, like, my kids are my favorite 668 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: people to be around. So like, there'll be some like 669 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: sad moments for you when you take them off to college, 670 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: but they come back and it's really really fun. 671 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: Then Yeah, well you're actually very optimistic that my kids 672 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: are going to get into cold. 673 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: With the brains on both of those parents, I'm not 674 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: worried about you. 675 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: Well, you guys, thank you so much for joining us 676 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: at the Pebble Beach, the almost famous Pebble Beach outing. 677 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Like we said, it's the seventeenth to Andrew, it's the 678 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: third for me. But we've had such a good time 679 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: with you guys, and I love you all be in here. 680 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: I've love getting to know you. I'm a big fan 681 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: of the two of you guys, and I just feel 682 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: like you're what you've done I think for this franchise 683 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: is next level because I think the authenticity of what 684 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: you guys do together is it speaks volumes way more 685 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: than you know, somebody else's track record of just rushing 686 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: to something and and you know, not getting there in. 687 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: The proper way. 688 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I have no advice to 689 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: give other than you know, enjoy the ride because it's 690 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: always a fun one. And clearly if Andrew and I 691 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: are any indication, it'll go on for the next twenty 692 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: some years for you. 693 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: So you made it. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. 694 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: But if I can ask one favor of your listeners, yes, 695 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: would you guys send me socks? I don't have socks. 696 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: You guys take it away. You got you got Amy Sugarman, 697 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: Amy Sugar Talks. 698 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you guys seen Jones post about my sock. 699 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: No I didn't see it. Oh my god. 700 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: So I go to his house for the first time 701 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: in Kansas, and he's like, I have like the this 702 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: sock issue. He goes, I hate like parrying my socks 703 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: after I wash them, so I just throw them into 704 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: a big container. He's actually like two containers, and I go, well, 705 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: bring them up, I'll do them. I spent two days, 706 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: like probably four or five hours each day pairing his socks, 707 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: and there were three hundred and forty six pairs. 708 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm a sock man too. I've 709 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: got a ton. 710 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you pair them after you? 711 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: Watch you for the most part. But we also have 712 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: a bin where you know the driving socks. 713 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I know where do they go. 714 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: It's a pretty good sized bin. I'm not gonna lie. 715 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: I need you to come to our house. Well, I 716 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: do it. 717 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: It seems it's kind of therapeutic. 718 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm shure. We thanks you guys. Thank you so much. 719 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: You guys, thank you for when to talk to us. 720 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: That's too like, that's all right again you as well. 721 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: Almost famous d o g. We're going golfing. 722 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Hm.