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Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? How are you all right?

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Speaker 1: go away, welcome back. We're on an anying in the

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Speaker 1: car doctorate. You know, when it comes to tires, tires, tires, tires, tire,

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Speaker 1: is really simple. Run your index finger across the lanker

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00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: tire and between the tread groups and find that wear bar.

426
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: That wear bar represents two thirty seconds of tread. Okay,

427
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: when you get down to that wear bar. You need

428
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Speaker 1: to immediately replace your tires. So what I like to

429
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: you you start thinking about shopping tires at four or

430
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: five thirty seconds. This allows for enough time to make

431
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Speaker 1: sure I'm getting a good deal, what kind of tires

432
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy, et cetera. And then also what you

433
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Speaker 1: can do is trying the penny tests. You've heard about

434
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: the penny test wrong? Sure, absolutely, Okay, you stick a penny,

435
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: You look at Lincoln's face, he turnt towards you, and

436
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: stick that penny down in the tread. If you can

437
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: see any part of Lincoln's head, okay, you need to

438
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: start looking at tires. Because you can see the top

439
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: of his head, you need to immediately replace your tires. Okay.

440
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Speaker 1: The other thing I want to suggest this is so easy.

441
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Speaker 1: Let's pick up a tread depth gage. Okay, any a

442
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Speaker 1: lot of parts stories gonna have a tread depth gage.

443
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Speaker 1: Only will be a couple of bucks, and you can

444
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Speaker 1: actually see where your tires are, and you give a

445
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: point of time sticking in between the grooves. Simple as that.

446
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: Now you know, and I'm gonna put you on the

447
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: spot here, Kurt If if they're driving Cooper tires. All

448
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: they have to do is look at the built in

449
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: treadwear indicator. How's that for a segue for you? That

450
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: is the best segue I could ever ask. Well, you know,

451
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: listen indicator you and I know I sell Cooper tires

452
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: and I like my Cooper tires. But you guys have

453
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: a treadwear indicator built right into the outer edge of

454
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: the tire to you look at it or the tires

455
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: good or bad? Right, Yeah, it's a little square box

456
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: that's on the tread on the tread block. You look

457
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: at it then from the ground you don't have to

458
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: have lifted up in the air, and it can show

459
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: you where in the life your your tires are today. Yeah.

460
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Speaker 1: I love that. You were one of the first guys

461
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Speaker 1: to come out with that a couple of years ago,

462
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Speaker 1: and I've loved it ever since. It's just the easiest

463
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Speaker 1: thing in the world. Yeah, it's pretty awesome, it really is.

464
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Speaker 1: Um talk a little bit about temperature right that. You know,

465
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Speaker 1: temperature plays a lot entire wear. And then you know,

466
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Speaker 1: not just not just hot weather, but cold weather, right,

467
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: cooler temps in the winter. How does that affect you know,

468
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: tire wear overall? And actually it's like tire is a

469
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Speaker 1: great deal, um, and it's important stuffing to kind of

470
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Speaker 1: brush over. But I will tell you dropping temperatures can

471
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: lead to uh decrease tire pressure. We know that ten

472
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Speaker 1: degrees of temperature drop can be one p s I

473
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Speaker 1: down in UM. So it's important that you regularly inspect

474
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: your tire pressure with a tire gage. If you're unsure

475
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: about how to do so, we recommend that you do

476
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: to your tire service specialists to make sure that you're

477
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: in good shape, right perfect, And then number I've got

478
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Speaker 1: two more before we're gonna run out of time. Um.

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00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: There's so much information on the sidewall of a tire,

480
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Speaker 1: and you know what, we could get you back and

481
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Speaker 1: we could talk about this in depth, but some of

482
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Speaker 1: those numbers and the manufacturers ratings, what's the important things?

483
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Speaker 1: What's the takeaway for the listeners to understand the great question?

484
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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot on the sidewall. One thing I

485
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Speaker 1: would recommend is a good at Cooper Tire dot com

486
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: type in sideball and in the search bar. It will

487
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: give you a really accurate representation of every single thing

488
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: on that sidewall. But I'll just give you a small example,

489
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: real quick run a P two sixty five seventy seven team, okay,

490
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, an LP seventy sevent team. You're gonna have

491
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: a light truck rating, okay, is going to be two

492
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five million meters wide, have a seventies

493
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Speaker 1: aspect ratio, which is the percentage of the wheel diamere,

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Speaker 1: and of course the set of teams speaks to it's

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00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: uh the overall wheel wheel diameter itself. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of different examples that you can you can speak towards,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a light truck or a P metric, a

498
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: key to six real popular tire. Of course, that just

499
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Speaker 1: means that it's for a passenger vehicle. One thing that

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00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: you want to look at in addition to the size

501
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: is the speed rating. It's really important that you never

502
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: go down in speed rating. We sometimes see a manufacturer

503
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Speaker 1: required an H or a B rated where people will

504
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: want to go ahead and go down to a T.

505
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: That's not good. We can talk more about this at

506
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Speaker 1: a later time, but we definitely want to underline the

507
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: vehicle manufacturer specifications are really important to adhere to. I see,

508
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, if I can just jump in, I see.

509
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: What I see going on is the person will have

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Speaker 1: a quote for a tire that is substantially cheaper than

511
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Speaker 1: another quote. And the difference is the first person quoted

512
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: them correctly a v R an AH, but the other

513
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: tire shop might be putting a t on which is

514
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of cases is substantially cheaper and that's how

515
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: they get the sale. And actually the vehicle is on

516
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: the incorrect tire. Absolutely, and please to your audience, don't

517
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: ever do that. You need to have the right tire

518
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: for your vehicle right, there's a reason for it. Once again, Kurt,

519
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: where can the listeners go get more information? Oh, I'd

520
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: love for you to go to Cooper Tire dot com

521
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: check out all of our information facts. If you are

522
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: struggly and finding the right fix your vehicle, you can

523
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: go ahead and use these Vehicles indicator. It gives you

524
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Speaker 1: a lot of information about your products and the products

525
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: that we carry today. Good deal. Hey listen, Kurt, thanks

526
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: for taking the time. I know you've got another meeting

527
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: you've got to run into, and I just we really

528
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here and thanks for being part of

529
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: the car doctor family today. Take good care is a

530
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: pleasure thanks so much. You're very welcome. I'm running Any

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Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. We are back right after this.

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00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Welcome back, run Any of the Car Doctor once again,

533
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: thanks the courtesy from Cooper Tire taking his time out today. Um,

534
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: just a lot of information on tires. I'll have to

535
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: get Curtis back again because there's just the tire information

536
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: just continues to evolve, so I just always need to

537
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: be updated on it. Let's get over and talk to

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00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Frank and Delaware. Frank, thanks for calling in. You're on

539
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: the Car Doctor today. How can I help you with

540
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: your sixteen Silverado? Hey wrong, that's good afternoon. I bought it,

541
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: used to head. It was twenty thou miles on it,

542
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: and I love the truck. Been just you know, getting

543
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: the field over the last nine thousand miles. This they call,

544
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I guess they call it a shutter, but um, it's

545
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: um it's like lugging if the engine uh, if you're

546
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: in the wrong transmission, the wrong gear. It's while it's

547
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: cruising and you've got your you're at fifty five or

548
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: fifty whatever the speed limit is, and it has a

549
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: tendency to just shake like it should down shift gear

550
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: and it just won't um And I don't know if

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00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: you know about I've I've read some things online thinking

552
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: it might if they said it might be the torque converter,

553
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I call it. It's not synchronized. Well,

554
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: is it? Is it? You know? Is it usually? You know,

555
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: forty and above highway speed. You're cruising along and all

556
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden you go to accelerate and it feels

557
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: like you're running over a rough strip of road, like

558
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: a rumble strip on the road. Yes, so you know,

559
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Speaker 1: can you duplicate it? Can you create the condition where

560
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: it happens on a regular basis or is it hard

561
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Speaker 1: to reproduce? Well, what I've noticed in addition to that,

562
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: while you're while it's cold, I have used the hall

563
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: mode UH to limit the number of changes in the

564
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: gears until it gets warmed up. But it yes, I

565
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: mean it does it' it's you're an overdrive and it

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Speaker 1: feels like it should down at one gear and it

567
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: could be at fifty, it could be at sixty. It's

568
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: even when I hauled my trailer by a trailer, it's

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Speaker 1: just a shake in the engine and if I could,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the car, the truck well enough, is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it a shake in the engine, do you think, Frank,

572
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: or is it a shutter in the truck? If if

573
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Speaker 1: the shake was, if the shake was in the engine,

574
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Speaker 1: let's just talk about this a second. If the shake

575
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Speaker 1: was in the engine such that the engine was misfiring,

576
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: you would be talking to me about a flashing check

577
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: engine light. And you haven't said that yet. Now, there's

578
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: no no, no warnings, no lights swing off or codes

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Speaker 1: or anything. The next time this happens, try and stay

580
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: in the moment with it, you know, be conscious of it.

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Speaker 1: And while you're applying the gas with your right foot,

582
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Speaker 1: maintained steady speed with the right foot, tap the brake pedal,

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Speaker 1: all right, Just tap the brake pedal enough to turn

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Speaker 1: on the lights. Not necessarily stop the truck, but enough

585
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: to turn on the lights if you can turn out,

586
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: which obviously you can't see you're driving, but if you can,

587
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: if if you understand what I'm saying, you want to

588
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: tap him enough to break the circuit. You turn the

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00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: lights on. The computer will see that as a brake

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00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: request and it will disengage the converter. And if the

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00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: shutter goes away, then yeah, I get it. Then the

592
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: converter might be the converter has an issue. Now, if

593
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't go away, it still doesn't rule out the converter.

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00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: This may be a mechanical lock of the TORU converter

595
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: that can't be commanded off until the vehicle slows down

596
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: and power drops the idle and and you know we're

597
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: basically then it just releases. But either that, what does

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00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: the gearshift position look like on this truck, Frank? Is

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: it drive three to one? No, it's just drive and

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00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: then the manual? Okay, so oh yeah, all right, and

601
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: I want you to do that all right now never mind. Um,

602
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I think what you've got is a sticking converter. I

603
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: think the converter is thing stuck on. And this is

604
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Speaker 1: this is the only way there's a sixteen is a

605
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Speaker 1: four year old vehicle with twenty thousand miles on it. Yes, yes,

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: it's got twenty nine now near thirty. I wouldn't. I

607
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: would inquire the dealer because yeah, I have you taken

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00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: it to the dealer to have it diagnosed or to

609
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: look at to be looked at. I wanted to talk

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00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: to you first, and then that's what I'm planning to do. Okay,

611
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: because I could be wrong, but I'm thinking. I'm thinking

612
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: this has five years, sixty thousand mile coverage on it,

613
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: so you know the powertrain warranty is about to go

614
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: away at I'm sorry, it might be three five thirty six.

615
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Get it into the dealer right away, but I bet

616
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: you this is going to be a converter issue. I

617
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Frank, and let us know what happens.

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Speaker 1: Please follow up. I'm running any of the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back, any of the

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Speaker 1: car doctorate. Let's real quick. Get over to Robin Big

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Speaker 1: him to New York. Rob. I got about three minutes, Baby,

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00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: what's going on? Here's my question. Will two studded tires

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Speaker 1: mount to down an all wheel drive vehicle? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you want. I don't

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00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: think you want to do that. I can envision. I

626
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: can envision it working right. I don't have any proof

627
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: positive here, Rob, but I can envision it working right

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00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: because tire diameter, adherence to the road traction, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way it grips, it's all going to be affected,

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Speaker 1: and that's what affects the all wheel drive operation. I

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Speaker 1: would check with Ford, what is this an echo sport?

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00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: The little car? I would check with Ford, but I

633
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: bet you they're gonna give you the same answer as me.

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00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know that you need to put studs on,

635
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: not with the way tire technology has come so far.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I keep hearing. But I'm old

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Speaker 1: old school. I love there, No, I know, and listen,

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Speaker 1: I you know what on ice nothing they work, They

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Speaker 1: flat out work. So at that point, at that point,

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Speaker 1: do you put four studded snows on? That's what I'm thinking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate it. Thank you very much. You're

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Speaker 1: very welcome. You're very welcome. Robert, you know it's well

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Speaker 1: and hey, Rob always gone, okay, you know. The the

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Speaker 1: issue is what I was gonna tell Rob, is you know,

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Speaker 1: the stud and how it affects the electronics becomes an

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Speaker 1: issue and couldn't have the potential. I'm old school tool, Robert,

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Speaker 1: and I think about studded snows from time to time.

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Speaker 1: Studded snows to me always belong on the back of

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Speaker 1: like a um, well, I don't know, a seventy eight

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Speaker 1: Chevy k Appre station wagon with kids in them. On

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Speaker 1: the way up to the mountains because back then there

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Speaker 1: wasn't anything that could affect it. Uh, the way the

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Speaker 1: technology is today, what I would what I would tell

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Speaker 1: you to do is get out the Cooper Tires dot

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Speaker 1: Com and take a look at we just we just

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Speaker 1: went through this for a customer, the Evolution Winter tire.

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Speaker 1: The Cooper Evolution Winter is a studdable snow but if

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Speaker 1: you don't put studs in it, it's It's probably one

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Speaker 1: of the best tires on the market today for for

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Speaker 1: plowing through snow. The way it grips, the treadwaar and

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Speaker 1: the compound of the rubber manufactured specifically for dealing with

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Speaker 1: cold and snow and ice. You know what, It's the

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Speaker 1: closest thing to a non studded tire that works like

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Speaker 1: a studded tire that works really well. More information at

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Speaker 1: Cooper Tire dot Com. Thanks Robbie. I appreciate the phone call. Um.

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Speaker 1: Well that's all I can say about this hour. Hey Tom,

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Speaker 1: we made it through on a computer that was kind

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Speaker 1: of limping. We'll fix it after the show today. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody being here with us. You saw the drama, folks.

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Speaker 1: We made it work. I'm ringading in the car. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you