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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will own you on the

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Speaker 1: dance floor. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. Then I

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Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosen. Thought, what's up? Boys? Hey Dan?

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Speaker 1: Are we low on money tags again? We are? We

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Speaker 1: should consult the subreddit board, which has a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: Do they have a whole thread? They do have a

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Speaker 1: whole time. I'll set a tweet, put together a list.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we didn't hear all the last largely

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Speaker 1: because you don't choose to visit the subreddit board. Well,

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Speaker 1: am I right? There's a cornucopia of of tags they're

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Speaker 1: just waiting for us to dig into. Take that offline,

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Speaker 1: Take that offline, yeah, be fairly turnkey. Come up with

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Speaker 1: a few new pretty turnkey. We were just in a

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Speaker 1: corporal meeting with some shadowy league figures, and we like

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Speaker 1: to now take notes of all corporo phrases. Let's keep

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Speaker 1: it about the tree top stand keep it drove the

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Speaker 1: also as to ask to speak to a higher up offline,

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Speaker 1: which is an old one, but it continues to make

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Speaker 1: no sense. You aren't online, You're just on our clock.

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Speaker 1: Get off our clock. Listen. Mark Sessler laying down the

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Speaker 1: law in a big spot. Uh. This is the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, sponsored by no One, feared by a few,

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Speaker 1: loved by thousands, holding to no One. Absolutely. Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: nice show today, pre grade show. I love the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the show. B minus pre games. Dan. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we are going to you know, we did this last

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Speaker 1: year and it's not it's not an easy exercise. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you want to cycle back to the written content

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Speaker 1: on the site, uh from last year to get right,

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Speaker 1: you can end up looking foolish. But uh. The Superstar Club,

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Speaker 1: You're the only one in I know who it is,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's Uh, I can't think of that that

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Speaker 1: zero sum game, one man in, one man out. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so each of us we're adding four new superstars to

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Speaker 1: I think Dan Helly we said on Monday was supposed

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Speaker 1: And if he cancels again, well, hell he can go

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Speaker 1: Have you ever got that before? That would that's not

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Speaker 1: Uh yes, so yes, Superstar Club. This is our pendultimate

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Speaker 1: I know you're away next week? Yes, another vacation. Huh,

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Speaker 1: same is everyone else. Well, I think it's we all

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Speaker 1: do them at different times. I think Greg, you probably

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Speaker 1: great and welcome back mark you. I don't know, let's

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Speaker 1: people all day long, every day with the people. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Dallas Cowboys. Bad news in Dallas. UH

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Speaker 1: Good news for Ezekiel Elliott, bad news for down McFadden west.

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Speaker 1: It's just accelerating the inevitable. Elliott was gonna take this

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Speaker 1: But Dan raised the and I'm trying to build a

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Speaker 1: bridge here with my friends Dan. But he asked the

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Speaker 1: have to say. We talked about this on the last

426
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Speaker 1: well and it's all relative. If if you're really positive

427
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: that this surgery for your player that hasn't suited up

428
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: in a regular season game may not prevent him, you know,

429
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: make you know, not keep out for the season like that.

430
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: That's great, but he's still a huge injury risk. And

431
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: don't don't you find it interesting the area that stem

432
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: cells could help athletes. To me, that was the most

433
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: interesting part of this. He's getting a stem cell injection.

434
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: If that rebuilds his A c L, I mean, what's

435
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: the future of that. By by the way, they announced

436
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: Elvis Dumerville underwent preventative surgery, just kind of slid that

437
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: into that press conference. Preventative surgery is the most i

438
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: are some phrase of the off season. Everyone's that just

439
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: getting thirdery, like it's going to get to go to

440
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: the dentist. It's like, there's no such thing as preventative surgery.

441
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: They're not open you up. That's just like the new

442
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: buzzword among coaches. Ravens already banged up, Ravens got some problems.

443
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith is not healthy. That their number one cornerback

444
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: Doomerville U Joe Flacco, by the way, is not practiced

445
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: this offseason. No one seems to be talking about himself

446
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: so far. This is the number one team from from

447
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: the time the off season started until now. To me,

448
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: that has declined the most in my own estimation of

449
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: their two thousand six chances. I mean, if you want

450
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: an argument, not on paper, but probably on the field

451
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: potentially this season to dissemble that franchise, put the money

452
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: into what we talked about and across country all round

453
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: train the old Mouse of the takes west straight from

454
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: southern California to the island. Uh. The Ravens are setting

455
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: the table for this. Can I just I'll just on

456
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: the other side of this, and I'd love for that

457
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: to one day be built. Uh, all the we don't

458
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: want to completely count out the Baltimore Room once again

459
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: as an NFL entity. No, No, that's marks thing. I'm

460
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: just talking about their season. I just think that's a

461
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: boom er Bus type of team. They got a lot

462
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: of things. They're hoping. They have more ifs than any team.

463
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: And this was annoyed about the whole preventative surgery. No one,

464
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: none of us are going for preventative surgery this weekend,

465
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: just for fun. Let's just do it. Get out of

466
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: the way. Greg down on doctors, who is Dick Mahoney,

467
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: Wes Walter Thurman, former Eagles safety. Absolutely. So the story goes,

468
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: and this popped up on a couple of Philly sports blogs.

469
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: One of the best stories of the off season. Uh

470
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: that there is a bar in Philadelphia that mysteriously had

471
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: this guy that started coming to their games as a

472
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: friend of a friend. Uh. He was a black man

473
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: with a Jerry Curl hairstyle, wearing an l A Dodgers cap.

474
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: Looked like easy. Looked like easy circa nineteen eight eight

475
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: was the way he was described. And Uh he his

476
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: first two games he had seven home runs. He would

477
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: have had eight, but he overran one of his own teammates.

478
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Let's just give him. Yeah, so we'll give him eight

479
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: softball rules. So one of the most dominating forces in

480
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: the history of Delco amateur sports. And then it turns out,

481
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: uh that he disappears one day, saying that he had

482
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: he was pursuing a filmmaking career in l A. And oh, yes,

483
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: he is a former NFL player, Walter Thurman, who was

484
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: pretty good for the Eagles last season. Uh. And uh

485
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: Thurman's girlfriend, alleged girlfriend posted a shot of of uh

486
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: Dick Mahoney or Walter Thurman looking out upon a softball field,

487
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: and so that's one smoking gun. But then the second

488
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: smoking gun came via hardcore journal work from Chris Wesling,

489
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: who um tweeted at Thurman's handle that he really hoped

490
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: that this was true with a link to the story

491
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and uh. Thurman retweeted it from his account, the only uh,

492
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: which seemed to me that he was saying, yes, this

493
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: is true. It seemed like verification to me. I have

494
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: since subsequently reached out to him on direct message, but

495
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: I have not heard back. We'll see. I want to

496
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: try to get him on the podcast since he's going

497
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: to be in l A. Take him one step further

498
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: and maybe we have a pretty nice platform here. Walter Thurman,

499
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: if you're listening and you want Dick mohoney, I know

500
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: you're in l A. You want to get into the filmmaking. Now,

501
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: our softball team, the Shield three and three at the

502
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: midway point of the season and missing that popper to

503
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: really uh solidify our lineup. Come play for us. I'm

504
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: not even joking you come play for us. We will

505
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: provide you with a companionship, uh, light beer, a really

506
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 1: cushy spot in the middle of our lineup, and what

507
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: else can you want about plugs for his upcoming documentary.

508
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: He's a director, He's directing a documentary. He has produced

509
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: a couple of films. I mean he's legit. I mean

510
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: I see this, Dan, Are you gonna push your best

511
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: hitter down to number seven? If Walter Thurman gets on

512
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: this team? Stop? Let's see this is West is like

513
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: the old Reggie Jackson on the straw that starts the drink.

514
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: If I do sign, I'll tell you right now what

515
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: I do if I signed. If I was able to

516
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: sign Thurman, because you're an amazing on base percentage guy

517
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: and you hit to the gaps, you're my new leadoff

518
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: hitter who gets cut putting Thurman at um. I have

519
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: to talk to Walter and find out what position he's playing,

520
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: but he would be back Garcia batting fifth. Uh, maybe

521
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Irish batting seventh. I'm gonna move myself down to the

522
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: lineup because I am about winning and getting into the playoffs.

523
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: Just throwing this out there. If you're basically looking to

524
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: add NFL players to your softball team, there's no company

525
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: in the entire world that has more access to l

526
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: A based football players just looking for something to do.

527
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: At dusk. Yes, but I mean we you know, the

528
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: Walter Thurmott thing. That makes sense. But you could you

529
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: could just walk, you know, fourteen feet across in the

530
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: office and had a multiple NFL players and do you

531
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: think they'd all be as dominant as Dick mahoney? Right,

532
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: And that that's a completely different case. Dick is listening,

533
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want it. He doesn't want this all

534
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: blown ups. He was trying to do it, you know,

535
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: under a name. You know, we could, you guys could

536
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: keep it a little more low profile. I mean when

537
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: he showed up in his Porsche Cayenne in outside of Philadelphia,

538
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: people started whispering, what's up with this guy in l

539
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: A that's not even gonna stand out West Drive. It's

540
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: a perfect situation if you're really looking for a leadoff hitter.

541
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we stay within the company here

542
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: and get former Major league great Dion Sanders. I mean exactly,

543
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: it's that would cost you that talent right in front

544
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: of us. That would be one of his days. Maybe

545
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: he could bring back to Jerry Curls from Florida State days.

546
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: Uh that by the way, that Philly Blogg there had

547
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: learned this was crossing broad moving on Carlos Williams, Bills

548
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: running back Uh had an interesting um reason or explanation

549
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: why he came to minicamp overweight. Was actually overweight to

550
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: the extent that the team opted to hold him out

551
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: of all practices. Uh, you know, to to protect him

552
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: from himself himself essentially. Uh. He's When he was asked

553
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: what the injury was that has held him back the spring,

554
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: he replied, the injury of pregnancy, I'd say, and then

555
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: a reporter I was like, no, really though, what part

556
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: of your body? Said nothing really, just pretty much just

557
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: trying to make sure pregnancy went well for my fiance.

558
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: But since that's over with, she knows what time it is.

559
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: It's football time again, so getting back into football shape

560
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: and getting ready for training camp. He went on to

561
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: say when a reporter said he's never heard anybody blame

562
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: pregnancy on the weight game for a football player, it's

563
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: definitely a first. But I'd like, I'd like to eat,

564
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: and then her being pregnant gave me an excuse to eat,

565
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: so eating anything and everything. She'd wake up one or

566
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning, I want a snack. Well,

567
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and watch you eat because

568
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel bad. But it's back

569
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: to football. Um. First of all, a couple of funny things.

570
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I immediately, uh, my wife is with child right now.

571
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's been shared. That might be

572
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: breaking news. Emily hands it's a big spot comes through

573
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: once again. Congratulations Emily. I mean, you, of course are

574
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: the hero in this situation, but Emily also, nice job.

575
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Emily is doing all the work. I did initial work

576
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: and now she's taken over. And I also did your

577
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: job and not one of those people back where pregnant?

578
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: No now you just say it in front of an

579
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: international audience on that podcast. No, no, like I don't

580
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: use the expression we're pregnant wife your you are recording her,

581
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: you're respecting the physical you know, birden that she's taking

582
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: compared to yours, which was rather quick on your part,

583
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I would imagine. I mean, I'm just saying it in comparison.

584
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: She's got to go ten months. You had one night

585
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: of work, if you want to even call it one night.

586
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: I burden and work even seems it seems strange. You're right,

587
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in behind. I'm not

588
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm not reflecting on him back for the opening, I'm

589
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: not reflecting on anything else. I mean anyway, I was

590
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: just I I get I caused people are gonna bury

591
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Carlos Williams. Oh, come on, this is funny. Yeah, it's

592
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of a funny thing. And Dune he was

593
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: honest for once. Yeah. The people that get on and

594
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure he gets killed in Twitter for it. It's like,

595
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: do you want these guys to be honest and be

596
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: human beings or do you want them to be from

597
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning school of professional jock speak. He's gonna

598
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: be in shape by uh, you know, the end of July.

599
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: So Carlos Williams is sneaky awesome. Last year too when

600
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I went back and I couldn't believe how good he was.

601
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: They they might have the best one of the better

602
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: running back groups in the league with those two like

603
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. I give him credit. I mean, who's gonna

604
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: be around longer Rex Ryan and the Bills in his

605
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: life or his wife. I mean, he's showing support to

606
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: the core. So are you are you you know, midnight

607
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: snacks or anything going on in his No, In fact,

608
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: when I reached out to my wife to tell her

609
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: about the story, so I knew she would find it funny.

610
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: I I found it really funny that Carlos Williams, the

611
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: poor guy, is laying in bed at two am and

612
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: his wife rolls over, apps on the shoulder, and and

613
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: and says, I'm hungry, you know, go get me a snack.

614
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: It's like, if she ever did that with me, I

615
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: don't know what. I would just start laughing. I was like, no,

616
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: and I go to sleep. But my wife doesn't have

617
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: the like middle of the night cravings that that come

618
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: with pregnancy for some women. But maybe it's a real thing.

619
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mark and Greg and West, some of

620
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: the women that you left behind. I can say I

621
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: was not up in the middle of the night cooking dishes.

622
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: There were very few instances of that. None. Yeah, not

623
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: just a regular. This is a super tropler. If you

624
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: read NFL dot com, you'll know that my latest end around,

625
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I gave a list of tropes that we've been building

626
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: through the offseason, and back to back. I talked about

627
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: uh two lines that are used often that ended up

628
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: getting used in the same comment from Todd Bowls on

629
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Wednesday or on Tuesday. This is what the Jets coach

630
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: had to say. Gino Smith is light years ahead of

631
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: where he was last year. He's night and day. Oh

632
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: my goodness, Maron light years ahead, which we talked about

633
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: on the show, Like that's never used in any other

634
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: uh aspect of society anymore, but in football training camps

635
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: and night and day uh, which also trope, trope, trope.

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Speaker 1: I'd be a little word, Fitzpatrick. We got Gina Smith

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Speaker 1: and a whole another dimension right now. To paraphrase the

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Speaker 1: managing editor of NFL dot coms around the NFL, none

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Speaker 1: of the stuff from O t A s means any

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Speaker 1: You're better off not even paying attention and take a

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Speaker 1: dirt nap. Well, there's there's one exception that we just

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Speaker 1: take a long one exception for that when when a

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Speaker 1: trope is absolutely true and Gina Smith is I like

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Speaker 1: the way Rhoda World after Rhoto World read what you

645
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Speaker 1: just read. They basically said, in other words, come home,

646
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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick exactly. We're waiting, uh. And we'll close out

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Speaker 1: news with the quote of the week. This from Gary

648
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Speaker 1: will be Act via the Denver Post on the quarterback

649
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Speaker 1: battle in Denver between Trevor Simeon and Mark Sanchez. Here's

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Speaker 1: the quote. Trevor and Mark have looked each other in

651
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Speaker 1: the eyes the whole offseason. When I sit there and

652
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: I watched them practice, I think they're right there banging

653
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Speaker 1: on each other. That's what's happening in the news. I

654
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Speaker 1: forgot that. Not only is there that line at the

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Speaker 1: end that they're looking at that trope lady is on

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Speaker 1: the top ten favorite uh people ever? Oh you find her?

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Speaker 1: Saucy who the trope robot? She has a name. Actually

658
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a burden with her Irish? You know the

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Speaker 1: name when we made the what was that all right?

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you're not watching Archer clean it up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's on Netflix. It's on Amazon. Go watch Archer come

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Speaker 1: back to us Irish they're they actually won't. We created

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Speaker 1: the trope alerb Drop. I found one of those like

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Speaker 1: text to voice translations, and then you could choose some

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Speaker 1: different women in different parts of the world. I think

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Speaker 1: her name was like Bridget from UK. Bridget from UK.

667
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Dan just nailed it, so did you? Is she on bumble? Well,

668
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Speaker 1: it's it's time for you to start narrowing down the women.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been active, and that's fine, and we

670
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Speaker 1: applaud you. But now it's time to take that group.

671
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Speaker 1: It's like in my my favorite the euro Euro. You

672
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Speaker 1: don't even believe this. No, listen, you know there's the

673
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Speaker 1: group stage. All right, let's advance out of the group

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Speaker 1: stage into the knockout stage. You don't know what I'm

675
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: doing behind the scenes. I've already begun the narrowing, the

676
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Speaker 1: winnowing process. Okay, so then we're on the same page. Yeah,

677
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Speaker 1: but you don't even believe it. It seems like you

678
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Speaker 1: were still. It's like a group B, group C, group Y,

679
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Speaker 1: e X, Like, let's get onto the next stage. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. Well this is probably better.

681
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Speaker 1: Let's take this offline. Largely applaud the effort in general.

682
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of action going on, a lot of

683
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Speaker 1: progress and trade in actions with Right, he's got one,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much turnkey. Right, he's got yu O going,

685
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Speaker 1: he's got COPA America over here, he's the world top

686
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: the MLS finals. Well, I don't his bank account no

687
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Speaker 1: longer exists. I don't think never mind, it's I think

688
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: you guys are overstated. We'll save it for the West

689
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: Love Life podcast coming later in the off season. All right,

690
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: let's move on. That's what's happening in the news. Now

691
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: it's time for Superstar Club. Alright, Greg, first one, you

692
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Speaker 1: failed fiasco, I need the artist and the featuring well

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Speaker 1: Prizes is featured. That's correct, the only single of merit

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Speaker 1: from the lost Fuji. Yeah, this one. This woman is

695
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Speaker 1: a Maryland native. My brain is just terrible. It was maya.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, whenn't have gotten that? All right? Who is

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Speaker 1: I think in callis for a second, but I just

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Speaker 1: knew that wasn't right? Who else has a guest verse

699
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Speaker 1: on that? Of course the late Big Baby Jesus in

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go, uh Superstar Club sixteen. One

701
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Speaker 1: man enters, one man must leave. And this is when

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Speaker 1: it gets a little bit, you know, gets a little

703
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Speaker 1: tricky here because we respect all the men in in

704
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the NFL that have become all pros and Pro bowlers.

705
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: But uh, father time is undefeated. Tom Brady will learn

706
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: that this year. I will not. He's not included in mind,

707
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: I stayed away from that. But just an example of

708
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Speaker 1: how age gets everyone. So we gotta kick somebody out.

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be aged by the way. Maybe circumstance

710
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: kicks them out of the uh superstar club, because what

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Speaker 1: is greg What is the definition of a superstar? Let's

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00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: let's start there. Well, that's a great question. I think

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Speaker 1: someone that is a household name to football fans and

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Speaker 1: is playing at a level where they are one of

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Speaker 1: the very best players at their position, a game changer,

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Speaker 1: if you will. Yeah, because you could be a superstar

717
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: not playing particularly well. But for this, for this purpose,

718
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't really make sense. It's it's someone even if

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Speaker 1: you're on a bad team, people by now people know

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Speaker 1: about you. You put the meat in the seats. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Darrell Casey is a great player. He's not He's not

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Speaker 1: been in the superstar club yet, right, you know what

723
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Cam Newton's a superstar just because we'd rather

724
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Speaker 1: write on Victor Cruze. No, because he never acknowledged Drell

725
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: care now, because he'd have to do it year after year,

726
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: and he'd have to get to a level where he

727
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: did not play well. Nobody in the national media. We'll talk.

728
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Speaker 1: He talked about that he had a bad two thousand fourteen.

729
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: The second point was gonna be just he would have

730
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Speaker 1: to be in the top five defensive Player of the

731
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Speaker 1: year type of guy. I think you know. I was

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: asking for a simple but it was a lot of emotions.

733
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Speaker 1: Outside the Superstar Club, people want to get in and out.

734
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Speaker 1: It's people get hurt. It's like the scene and knocked

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Speaker 1: up outside the bar and uh seen him knocked up

736
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Speaker 1: outside the bar. I'm trying to get the ref what

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00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: happened in that scene, you know when Leslie Man is

738
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: trying to get into the bar and he says, you too.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was a brutal um. Okay, So it's a

740
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: good movie. It's been a while. Tarll Casey's been great

741
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Speaker 1: for three years. Greg sticking all right, He's not in

742
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Speaker 1: the Superstar Club though, right, I would agree that you

743
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Speaker 1: step it up, all right. This is a tough game

744
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: and uh, showing what a big person I am. I

745
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: I wrote a piece last year, last June at this

746
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Speaker 1: time where I added the likes of c. J. Spiller,

747
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: uh and Randall Cobb and Cleil mac That worked out okay,

748
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Speaker 1: but kicked out the likes of Brandon Marshall who had

749
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Speaker 1: the best season ever, Larry Fitzgerald who stuck as father

750
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Speaker 1: Time in a big spot, and Jimmy Graham, that was fine. Uh,

751
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you kicked out Greg last year. Uh so

752
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: this is not an easy game, so we're gonna try

753
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: it again. Mark Sessler get us going, Uh, well, this

754
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: is not going to help on a show when I've

755
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: been at odds with the host the entire time. But

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Speaker 1: I am uh. This will involve in New York Jet.

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00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: It will also involve a Jacksonville Jaguar. Allen Robinson. I

758
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: am locating him for superstar status. I think he's in

759
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: a great situation in a young offense where he last

760
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: year on a bad team at fourteen hundred yards. I

761
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: understand garbage, tell him, you know, please, but fourteen touchdowns.

762
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Speaker 1: The guy makes plays. He's the number one target for

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, and for me, it's a no brainer. Allen

764
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Speaker 1: Robinson was not a flash in the pan. Everything about

765
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Speaker 1: him suggests that he's around for the long term. He

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Speaker 1: gets my vote in place of I'm sorry, Dan, you

767
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: just mentioned him. Brandon Marshall a cheap shot against a jet,

768
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Speaker 1: A shocker. I think we have to pick someone. It's not.

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Speaker 1: I rather like Brandon Marshall, but thirty two years old,

770
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: and I think part of it is also situational, especially

771
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Speaker 1: if that offense is not with its quarterback. I get that. Wait, no,

772
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: Jan Gilly still there, and Marshall is still Brandon Marshall.

773
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: He's not. I mean he's thirty two, he's not thirty six.

774
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: And again, people forget how good this guy was. A

775
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: hundred and nine catches yards fourteen touchdowns a career high.

776
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: He carried that offense all season long. Uh ripe to

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Speaker 1: come back to earth. But you know he could still

778
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Speaker 1: be a superstar. I mean, I just I mean, I

779
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: don't think the game is worth much if I'm picking

780
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Speaker 1: someone that started to fade me. Hang on, I get it.

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: He's a guy who when he was twenty six twenty

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Speaker 1: seven years old, everyone thought would not have a lasting

783
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: career because he's had more surgeries than anyone in the

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Speaker 1: Superstar club probably. I mean, he has had a million

785
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: surgeries and he plays such a physical style. People thought

786
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: he would break down, and we thought that was starting

787
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: to happen a couple of years ago in Chicago. And yeah,

788
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: last season he was better than ever six years, six years,

789
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Speaker 1: including last season with at least twelve hundred receiving yards.

790
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: So he's been remarkably productive. All right, so in Allen

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00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Robinson of the Jaguars out Brandon Marshall of the Jets.

792
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: That would be very bad news for the Jets if

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00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: he uh steps down. I gonna say, if Robinson was

794
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: on another team, he might already be in the superst

795
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: For the Jaguars kind of just kept him under the radar.

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: It's in the Drill Casey category where he's already a

797
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: superstar by talent, but the rest of the country doesn't know.

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00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: There are yeah, multiple uh boxes the check to become

799
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: a true superstar fourteen last year, all right, Wes, who's

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Speaker 1: coming into the Superstar Club? Well, I considered Marcus Mariota

801
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: and out goes Tony Romo like that stick with that.

802
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: I considered David Johnson and out goes Matt Porte, another

803
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: Jets stunner. Yeah, shocking that a thirty ye old running

804
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: back switching teams might not work out with But I

805
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: ended up going Amari Cooper Is into the Superstar Club.

806
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Steve Smith hurts me to do it. Oh and I

807
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: know you can say Steve Smith no longer a superstar,

808
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: but before he got injured last year, right in line

809
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown, and Julio Jones in production fast too

810
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: before the injury. Yes, Amari Cooper, I think people forget

811
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Speaker 1: if his if the Radar season would have ended in

812
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: like week nine or ten. This is right about the

813
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: time that Daniel Jeremiah on the Move the Sticks podcast

814
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: was saying, I'd rather have a Mare Cooper than Odell Beckham.

815
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: He was that impressive early in the season, battled an

816
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: injury down the stretch, Derek Carr's play fell off, and

817
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: we kind of have this impression of Amari Cooper not

818
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: not being as impressive in December because he dropped a

819
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: ton of passage. I totally agree, but he did drop

820
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: more and in the lack of concentration that comes from

821
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: I think he had more. Yeah, it could be wrong way.

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00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I think he had more drops, you know, per throw

823
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: by far than any receiving leagues. It was a problem

824
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: for him last year that he would love to correct

825
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: because his production would get even higher to superstar level

826
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: if he cuts those out. He had one hundred and

827
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: thirty targets last year that has been near the top

828
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Speaker 1: of the league. Would have been in the one seventies

829
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: or eighty. Yeah, he's insane. Marshall last season had a

830
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three targets. Um so he yeah, so

831
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: that's wrong but me but uh yeah, that seems like

832
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: a fair one. Especially the quarterback is so important that

833
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: in terms of a component to whether the wide receiver

834
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Speaker 1: makes leap. We're all big fans of car. Now there's

835
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: logic there. I kind of look at it the other way.

836
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: The wide receiver is important to the quarterback making the

837
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: leap in the same way that Randy Moss gave people

838
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: career years. Mary Cooper can make Derek Carr look like

839
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than he is. Interesting. Interesting if Steve

840
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: you know Steve Smith, you could argue at this point,

841
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: but it's hard for West to say that that's absolutely

842
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: a superstar a household name. I mean, you're waffling all

843
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: over the place on your definition of a superstar. Who

844
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: is well he he might not even like there is

845
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: at least a twenty I feel like there's a chance

846
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: Steve Smith never played another down in the NFL. Again,

847
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: it may not be a big chance, but there's at

848
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: least a chance. Well, in our June podcast, he qualifies

849
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: what who were your other ones? Mary Yoda and Romo

850
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: and Guy would have remember with this to give to

851
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: the social team, David Johnson and Mett for take Mariotta

852
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Romo is say that's what you title a podcast with

853
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley and Tony Romo out Mariota in. Uh moving on,

854
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: I am going the backfield. I am and welcoming in.

855
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: I know Greg, you're gonna be excited to hear this.

856
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: His names, he's a coming back from n C. I'm

857
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: not sure if he's ready to be UH All Pro

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: this year. And David Johnson was a great option by West.

859
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I thought about David Johnson, Bruce Arians pleased him to

860
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: be the future of the running back position, but I

861
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: went with a young tale back that just got a

862
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: brand new deal operating deep in the heart attacks Lamar Miller.

863
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: Come on in, baby, you're going to the superstar club.

864
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: You're getting called up to the big club. Because an

865
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: explosive young back playing in an offense with a game

866
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: changing wide receiver in a new quarterback that's gonna be

867
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: not be has to do too much. So Lamar is

868
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna have a major role a guy that catches the

869
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: football out of the backfield. Uh So it'll be a

870
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: safety blanket to Rock Oswiler, a guy that breaks big runs,

871
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: Maro and this guy has explosive playmaking ability. And this

872
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be egg all over your face. Uh, scientists,

873
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: when this guy is going to the Pro Bowl? Uh

874
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: in January or February. Well you you mean not after

875
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: seven other players drop out of the Pro Bowl. No,

876
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: he a legit Pro bowler. He will have you know,

877
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: close to I would say, fourteen hundred total yards. He's

878
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: had twelve hundred before, so he's gotta juice it uPAR

879
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: total that's not even that good. Might not even get

880
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: him to the Pro Bowl. You mean rushing yards, Yeah,

881
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: because last year there's a ton of rushing yards in

882
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm just saying, looky, he's that thirteen seventy

883
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: four two years ago. He's got it. You gotta you

884
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: get to the Superstar cub. You gotta be sniffing. I

885
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: don't appreciate anything by the scientists. Here's the thing, Mark,

886
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: and thank you. I appreciate your supper because you're getting

887
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: undred maybe receiving that that. I don't fear you beaker

888
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: next downstairs at the basement. I believe in Lamar Miller, right,

889
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: So hang some monions don't say it. Well, I think

890
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be so much better. He's twenty six yards.

891
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Open up the door of the scientist lab. Open that

892
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: door up, irish, I thought, way it was closed? Okay,

893
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: open on the get the keys. Wait. I want to read, uh,

894
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: I want to read. An email sent from Hansas commed

895
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: Dan Tuesday, June fourteenth, at three pm. Dan was the

896
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: final around the NFL writer to respond to my plea

897
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: for making the leap candidates this year. And so I'm

898
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna read from the top of his list, Lamar Miller,

899
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. I asked for five to seven names. Lamar Miller,

900
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, Lamar Miller, Lamar Miller, Lamar Miller, Lamar Miller

901
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: was and the two years and then I'm not gonna

902
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal his other names, but there was

903
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: I remember writing it up. Well, now he's truly ready

904
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: to make the Leap two superstar. Can we open that

905
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: door yet? You know what my thought is, you don't

906
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: need to go downstairs. You're making your own lab. Excellent adjustment.

907
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: I also had a beautiful picture in Lamar Milliar with

908
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: it we're in the lab. What you got? I was

909
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: just gonna open the door and throw stink bomb down

910
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: there and close them up. You make them come to

911
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: your lab now. Um, all right, so I gotta send

912
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: somebody out, and the person I will send out, you know,

913
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: have fun. You know, have fun, Lamar, You're now a

914
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: superstar and you're gonna get the sticking in the signs

915
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: of his face out the door. Well, Shawn McCoy, nice run, really,

916
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: nice run. You. Uh, you should be a superstar. Still.

917
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: You still have age on your side. I think you're

918
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight now and no serious knee injury or anything

919
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, you don't feel like the same guy anymore.

920
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Last year you seem to come down to earth. You

921
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: had all those hamstring issues. I don't like what's going

922
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: on up in Buffalo. I've been very vocal about my

923
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: feelings about the Bills in the season and that regime.

924
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: Uh So I believe after a second straight subpar season,

925
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, well, while still useful back, perhaps no longer superstar.

926
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: We look on the bright side. Now he has more

927
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: time to concentrate on being a better human being. In

928
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: a related story, you must believe that Carlos Williams sheds

929
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: the baby fat then because you have a much bigger

930
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: role than well. I my I still think Lashawan McCoy

931
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: will be used as a focal point. I just think

932
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe the days of him being a monster two thousand

933
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: yard all purpose back with twenty plus touchdowns, I think

934
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: those are over. He goes, he's going down, he's trending downward.

935
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: A lot of another Doug Whaley home run out of

936
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: the park you make, you make a strong Ireland I

937
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: think he was better down the stretch last season than

938
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: west Ad for instance. But you make a pretty strong

939
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: argument from McCoy also that maybe he's not a player

940
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: that stays in peak form as he gets older. I

941
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: think that could make some sense, don't get me wrong,

942
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: And this could blow uphim my face and he could

943
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: lead the league in rushing next year. But I really

944
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: do believe they're going to go in the other direction

945
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and Lashawn McCoy's prime is behind him. Sorry, buddy, this

946
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: is you gotta hang Greg close us out all right? Well,

947
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I I think of the superstar club as you know,

948
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: you can be a good player, but you're not in

949
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: the superstar club. T Y Hilton has been a very

950
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: good player, certainly two years ago Uh, he was recognized

951
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: as being a great receiver, but I think he is

952
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: ready to take a step to the Stuperstar club and

953
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: contend for the league lead in in yards, be like

954
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: a fifteen six hundred yard plus receiver in that system.

955
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: And him and Luck both so motivated, and I think

956
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: he's just reaching that point in his career where he's

957
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: ready to start making some arguments about what a great player.

958
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: He is a top three or four receiver in the

959
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: entire NFL. And so I believe t Y Hilton enters

960
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: the Superstar club this year, even in a year off

961
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: and off year, That's that's kind of what I'm going

962
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: Even in a law season in Indianapolis, he still had

963
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: sixty nine for D and five, which most receivers would

964
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: die for, if you if if we believe that the

965
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Colts getting back together, something in line with his eight

966
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: and seven. But he's I'm saying, I'm saying he takes

967
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: it to another level to leven maybe kind of like

968
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown took it to one level, then he took

969
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: it to another level, and then he took it to another.

970
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: I think t Y Hilton can start sneaking up into

971
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: that into that territory. This is it's probably the best

972
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: receiver group. Has there ever been this many unbelievable receivers

973
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, this is a great era

974
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: right now for receivers to the crack into that Julio

975
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: I'd throw DeAndre in there, Odell Beckham group. I mean,

976
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, you gotta be you gotta be incredible. So

977
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: that's that's probably more receivers playing than at any other

978
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: time in the history of the sport. Out on the field,

979
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: there's more three four wide receiver sets, younger players advancing quicker,

980
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: and I think that Colts team is just gonna put

981
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: up crazy art. I believe the Cardinals will too. And

982
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: yet it pains me. Uh, someone's got to come out

983
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: of the superstar club. And Larry Fitzgerald is one of

984
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: the greatest receivers ever. Is doing it to him again?

985
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I never did it to him before. Uh, But he's

986
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: in a system and a team where I think the

987
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: ball is gonna get passed around a lot. He's not

988
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: as as much juice as he showed at times last year.

989
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: He is getting up there in years. He's been in

990
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: the NFL a long time and and there's been various

991
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: points of his career where even the Cardinals thought he

992
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: was taking a little bit of a step back. Obviously,

993
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: he's coming off a strong year. But I think with

994
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: John Brown and Floyd and Nelson and David Johnson and

995
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson and everyone else getting the ball here, I

996
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: think Larry Fitzjoe can start segueing into a solid starter.

997
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: So is it more about where he's at physically and

998
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: his talent or that they have to both both. That

999
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: he is not gonna because last year there was a

1000
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: lot of mouth defeed and he's still excelled. But I

1001
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: think if you look late in the season, our friend

1002
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon had this tweet. I remember just yesterday looking

1003
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: at when all three receivers were healthy together. He was

1004
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: the third receiver in terms of production compared to Floyd

1005
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: and Brown at the end of the season, and they

1006
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: were all healthy. Here's what to Gregg's point, Larry fits

1007
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: from December on and don't forget about an incredible playoff

1008
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: game against Green Bay. But oh yeah, don't forget about

1009
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: the most important game on the schedule. Oh no, I wouldn't.

1010
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: But this is this, is this something to say to

1011
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: the last five games after that amazing start to the

1012
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: last season eight for fifty five, five forty one, three

1013
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: for forty three, four nine six for fifty five. The

1014
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: game after that Green Bay game against Carolina four for

1015
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: thirty uh was, you know, one of his best games

1016
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: ever against Green Bay. So he's hardly shot, But I would.

1017
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: I really just expected better out of Greg. Oh. Please, look,

1018
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: we all can't disrespect a man who has disrespect. You gotta,

1019
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: you gotta it's something bold. You already took the thirty

1020
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: seven year old coming off Achilles surgery, so I couldn't.

1021
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't take that easy pickets. I had to go

1022
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: with someone that's a legit superstar age thirty three uh

1023
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: by week one Lara Fitz, Yeah, that's fair West. That

1024
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: was maybe the easiest guy to kick off this list

1025
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: was the old man with the bad a kid. I

1026
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: can't keep track of Greg's definition of a superstar. It

1027
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: goes it's all over there, all right, all right, Peyton Manning.

1028
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go West style Peyton Manning. He's out of

1029
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: the superstar Banton Manning the worst quarterback in the NFL

1030
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: last year. Steve Smith played like an All Pro before

1031
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: the injury um alrights like Larry's he's out of the club.

1032
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: He's done. I can't believe he did. Larry Fitzgerald dirty

1033
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: like that, He's he's earned more respect. Well, it's not

1034
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: an easy game. That's that is the Superstar Club. And

1035
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure um our listeners will remind us of our failures,

1036
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: because there will be failures. Uh, there always are, and

1037
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: perhaps this is the year we now don't go four

1038
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: for four. We will be back on Thursday with our

1039
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: third show of the week, Dan Helly. Like I said,

1040
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: we'll sit in uh with the group for the news,

1041
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: which will be fun. The face of Total Access, at

1042
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: least the masculine face of Total Access. Lindsay Rhodes co

1043
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: hosts that program, uh famously. Uh So that is what's

1044
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow. We'll map out I don't know what

1045
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, but I'll tell you what. There's

1046
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot to dig into. Mini camps wrapping

1047
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: up twenty four teams wrapping up the off season. It's

1048
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: over tomorrow, six week dark period for the NFL. UH

1049
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: where the teams actually say to their players, get out

1050
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: of here, stay out of trouble, go on vacation. Be

1051
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: with your families. They'll stop, We'll keep going. That's what

1052
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: we do. We're pros until Thursday. This Dan Hanzas signing

1053
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: off for Quiet star Mark. Just joking about the vacation.

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Speaker 1: We're friends. Don't worry about it. I'm not gonna take it,

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Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. The mail man, the boss,

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Speaker 1: the big Irish behind the glass. It's out Thursday. None

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Speaker 1: of that garbage. H