WEBVTT - “OUTER SPACE HAS RUINED MY LIFE”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hello, how's.

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<v Speaker 2>It going sculling? Good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? How are you? How long does you can

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<v Speaker 2>do this for?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't I don't want to do this game? This game

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<v Speaker 4>always gets boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, okay, okay, that answers that question. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you just told it to me soon tell

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<v Speaker 2>me again.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not tell it to you yet, but my

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<v Speaker 4>name is Russ.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Russ. It says here that you're scared of the sun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I know this is going to sound kind of ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, I'm honestly kind of legit scared of the

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<v Speaker 4>sun and a few other things in regards to like space.

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<v Speaker 4>It gives me, honestly, like an existential dread.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you tell me more? Tell me more about

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<v Speaker 2>why you're scared of the sun?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing that I always say to my family

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of makes them think I'm crazy is that

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<v Speaker 4>like the like light speed, right, it's really fast, like

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<v Speaker 4>about three hundred thousand meters per second or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>To go to the moon, if you're going light speed,

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<v Speaker 4>or take about four seconds. But to get to the

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<v Speaker 4>Sun they would take about eight minutes, but they look

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<v Speaker 4>the same size in the sky, like the sun is

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<v Speaker 4>just gigantic. Man, stars are terrifying, And I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>normal people realize that we just have this like massive

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<v Speaker 4>ball of fusion in the sky constantly doing this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>powering all life on earth. I don't know, man, It's

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<v Speaker 4>such a weird balance of like fuckery that I just

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<v Speaker 4>can't can't live with.

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<v Speaker 2>How how often are you thinking about the sun?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I I think I honestly think about this

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<v Speaker 4>type of shit every day. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the first thing you think about typically

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<v Speaker 2>when you wake up? Is it the sun?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I I no, definitely not. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't check your phone. Do you check your phone

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<v Speaker 2>and the when when you first wake up?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>No? But I do check my laptop. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you first go to on your laptop with at?

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<v Speaker 4>What if I said rather it would that be a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible thing?

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<v Speaker 2>No, A terrible thing would be anything that's not the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm being honest with you, so I guess read it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What subreddit do go on is check home?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just browsed popular brows the home brows. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you think Curble Space Program, I like that subreddit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your so your you. The first thing you

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<v Speaker 2>do when you wake up in the morning is you

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<v Speaker 2>go to your laptop. You go to Reddit, and you

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<v Speaker 2>try to find people talking about the sun on a

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<v Speaker 2>space reddit.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Curbal Space Program is like a video game

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<v Speaker 4>where rock face and stuff. Yeah do, But like I,

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<v Speaker 4>I do have a telescope and I am like an

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<v Speaker 4>amateur astronomer and stuff too, so like this type of

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know why, man, Like looking through my

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<v Speaker 4>telescope has been a thing I haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 4>do recently because like I just stare into the void

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<v Speaker 4>of space and I see all like the stars and shit,

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<v Speaker 4>and just like actually starts to freak me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I go ahead, I'll I'll save my shit for the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. I was gonna say, like my friends and family

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<v Speaker 4>know that, like I loved space and shit, but they've

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<v Speaker 4>all like realized that I haven't been going out with

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<v Speaker 4>my telescope and taking pictures recently, and it's been a

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<v Speaker 4>thing that I've been like too afraid to like talk

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<v Speaker 4>about to them, because like, how do you explain that

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<v Speaker 4>you're scared of basically the universe. No, I sound crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an amateur astronomer, which, by the way, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard a single person ever describe themselves as that. I

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<v Speaker 2>find that very impressive. You are an amateur astronomer who

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<v Speaker 2>is ungraid of space. That's like if you were a

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<v Speaker 2>hot air balloon conductor who was afraid of heights, or

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<v Speaker 2>an exterminator who was afraid of bugs, or a doctor blood.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I don't get I don't get paid to

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<v Speaker 4>like look at the stars or anything though.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, but this is not about money. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>business what you do. You're an amateur. You describe yourself. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you describe yourself as an amateur astronomer. That's not a

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<v Speaker 2>normal thing that people say about themselves. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>you get from from what I'm hearing, from what I

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<v Speaker 2>what you're telling me. This is what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>You're maybe putting too much weight onto the onto the

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<v Speaker 4>two words amateur astronomer. I just kind of like use

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<v Speaker 4>that as like a descriptor for like people that like

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<v Speaker 4>to use telescopes and like your research on what they're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at and take pictures on a scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Okay, well are you Are you an amateur astronomer

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<v Speaker 2>or are you a guy who owns a telescope.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, they're one and the same, because it's like

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<v Speaker 4>saying a musician is someone that can own a guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, Man, I'm really sad now, I'm sorry. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>disappointed me a lot. I thought you were an amateur

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<v Speaker 2>astronomers astronomer, no, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't write down like numbers and do calculations and

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<v Speaker 4>like all that type of stuff, but like I I

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<v Speaker 4>would have when you go on to like the subreddits,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone talks about how they're amateur astronomers and they just

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<v Speaker 4>like take pictures of stuff. I don't know, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I thought they were called.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, at some point there was a little stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of time where you were really into space but not

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<v Speaker 2>yet afraid of it. What did that look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Excitement? I guess like I would go out like every

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<v Speaker 4>clear night that I had the chance, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>taking taking pictures of uh, like I don't know any

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<v Speaker 4>names right now, man, I'm kind of nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, some some of the terminologies escaping my brain. But

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<v Speaker 4>like I would take pictures of like I know that

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<v Speaker 4>Andromeda Galaxy is a great one. For example, it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most stamous ones. Some of the nebulas, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I get excited about looking at the stars

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<v Speaker 4>and looking at the moon and things like that, but

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<v Speaker 4>over time it just started like creeping up on me,

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<v Speaker 4>like that the distances between these things and the sizes

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<v Speaker 4>of these things and compared to me, like I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>so tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>You're nothing. You're nothing, You're nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like a tiny speck man floating on another

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<v Speaker 4>tiny speck in the grand scheme of the universe. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think I spent too much time thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Like, imagine how small our brains are. We are nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We are tiny, insignificant little bugs. And if a giant

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<v Speaker 2>thing wanted to come down here and kill us all,

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<v Speaker 2>he would be well within his right to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>because whatever it would be, it would be bigger and smarter,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we're well within our right to kill

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<v Speaker 2>a little ant. You know, that's so much we suck

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<v Speaker 2>in our nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that, like I feel as a human

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<v Speaker 4>and being brought up in modern society, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>more humans need to kind of have like kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a similar feeling to me because I think it's I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not trying to say I'm anything special or like smart

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<v Speaker 4>or anything, but like I think, well, you hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>You described yourself as an amateur astrologist, astronomy astronomer, astrologist

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But you did that, and you need to

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<v Speaker 2>accept the fact that you did that. Anyway, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean to mislead. I didn't mean to mislead.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgive you, I forgive I forgive you. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. I kind of lost what I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to say. I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You were you were. Here's what you were. You were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say that everyone else should be as afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of space as you are. That's what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you feel some.

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<v Speaker 4>Degree because it's very much humbled me in my day

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<v Speaker 4>to day life and not being so worried about the

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<v Speaker 4>small things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Keeped on the floor, like I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 4>like up set that I have to clean a puke

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's what's his name, uh god, Carl Sega. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't him. Did Carl Sagan do this or did

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<v Speaker 2>he just talk about it? Or it's the pale blue

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<v Speaker 2>dot that photo.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure, yeah, Carl. I think it was Carl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think who cares? But there's a famous

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<v Speaker 2>picture of a pale blue dot and it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>little it's like taking a telescope that was taken super

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<v Speaker 2>super far away and it took a took a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the Earth, and the Earth looks like a little

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<v Speaker 2>pale blue dot, and you're supposed to look at it

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<v Speaker 2>and go, damn, uh you know that girl not texting

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<v Speaker 2>me back is nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was like Voyager one or Voyager two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why, that's that's why, that's why Carl Sagan wanted

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<v Speaker 2>them to take the pictures because a girl wasn't texting

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<v Speaker 2>him back and he wanted to just realize how insignificant

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<v Speaker 2>that was. That's why he took the picture. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it took, if he asked someone to take it,

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<v Speaker 2>or if he did do anything. What were you going

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<v Speaker 2>to say?

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask if you knew that they

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<v Speaker 4>took pictures of all the planets and the solar system,

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<v Speaker 4>like the mejor.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones like at one point in time.

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<v Speaker 4>No, with a pailblue dot like in the same like

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<v Speaker 4>a like a panoramic type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not an amateur astrologist. So are you?

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<v Speaker 2>What was I going to ask you? Oh? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear more about how this has humbled you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear more about how do you live

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<v Speaker 2>your life differently now that you've internalized that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>matter in the grand scheme of the planets.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a very loaded question. I think that it's

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<v Speaker 4>made me honestly more reclusive, and it's made anxiety worse.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though I think that at the same time

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<v Speaker 4>people should have like a similar feeling to me about

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<v Speaker 4>being tiny, I think I go overboard on that and

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<v Speaker 4>just think about it all the time. So, like, if

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<v Speaker 4>the way it's affected my life, it's been, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>not very good. It's been a negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you're you came to the right conclusion, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that you don't matter and your incident it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really a true thing. But you're using that information

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong way. You're using it to be anxious. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why, why does that make you anxious that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so much that I don't matter, It's just that

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm at the whim of the universe, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like whatever, Like just as like stars and planets form

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<v Speaker 4>and galaxies form, just like through physics, I in life

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<v Speaker 4>has formed in my opinion, I'm not a religious person

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<v Speaker 4>through physics, and if God created physics, then God whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't want to get in that right

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<v Speaker 4>now anyways. But like I am just as natural as

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<v Speaker 4>the planets around me and like the atoms around me,

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, because I'm also aut so like I

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<v Speaker 4>just fundamentally feel as if I, like, just as the

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<v Speaker 4>universe got created, I could just be destroyed an instant

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<v Speaker 4>or like something else could happen. I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm being a squishy meatsack is like part of my

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<v Speaker 4>fear and the whole existential system of like planets and systems,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know, I'm just a squishy meatsack and

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't know how to describe it. It's I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's like a fear of

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<v Speaker 2>not being in control. You're at the Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>Swim Yeah, Like I'm just so small and human.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, that's it. You're you're, you're You've come to

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<v Speaker 2>the realization of your own fragility.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's scary, yes, I guess so that at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of it, it's like I'm I'm so fragile.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so fragile, yea, And.

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<v Speaker 4>It terrifies me because like anything could happen, like like anything,

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<v Speaker 4>and I like literally and why.

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<v Speaker 6>Not actually of death?

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<v Speaker 2>But why not look at it in a more positive

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<v Speaker 2>way of like, well, I'm fragile, but uh so is

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<v Speaker 2>everyone around me, even the most like how even whoever

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<v Speaker 2>we think is the most powerful person, there's just a

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<v Speaker 2>fleshy little means like nothing matters, there's no why not

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<v Speaker 2>why not just be like all right, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>chill out, I'm gonna eat my little food. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>eventually I'll return to the universe is some other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is my little time in the in the flash.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me hang out with people and eat stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>watch TV and like then it'll be over.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is though, that that sounds very nice, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've tried. I'm not gonna presentd like I'm in counseling,

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<v Speaker 4>gone for counseling, Like, I've definitely tried these things, and like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's that like every single time I go outside, I

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<v Speaker 4>look down at the ground and all I can imagine

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<v Speaker 4>is this huge, gigantic ball underneath me, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>like this tiny thing on top of it. And just

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<v Speaker 4>like if you were to go into the forest and

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<v Speaker 4>see a huge bear in front of you, you'd be scared.

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<v Speaker 4>That same fears applied to just looking down at the ground. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>or like looking up at the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>What did the counselors tell you? I'm curious what they

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<v Speaker 2>have to say. They're also fragile, little meat secks.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is is that I haven't even been able

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about this and counseling because of like so

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<v Speaker 4>many other anxieties that I have about other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do anything you do? You do anything that

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<v Speaker 2>makes you feel calm?

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<v Speaker 4>And okay, I'm a musician as well, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna lie about my attitude and musicians ship. I've taught

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<v Speaker 4>myself music theory over the past five years. I am

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<v Speaker 4>a musician. I am not and if you don't think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an amateur astronomer, I'm definitely musician. When I use

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<v Speaker 4>that term so respects respect and when you play music,

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<v Speaker 4>you feel okay, you feel like you're you're in the

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<v Speaker 4>flow state and you're not thinking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you're an ant. Yes, yes, yes, I am only focused

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<v Speaker 4>on the music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that's uh, you know, cherish that ship, dude, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff like that is the only it's really the

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<v Speaker 2>only stuff worth doing. I think there's stuff that gets

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<v Speaker 2>us in the flow where we're not thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>future of the past. We're just in the fucking zone.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But also there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know, there's a lot of bad stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that does that for you too, Like Caroin.

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<v Speaker 4>I think even anxiety itself is a flow state, but

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just one that you can't control, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why people get addict it to heroin is

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<v Speaker 2>because it puts them in the moment, and that's it's

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<v Speaker 2>such an attractive feeling, and that's why we chase it

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<v Speaker 2>with heroin and music sometimes in the same time chasing

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<v Speaker 2>the dragon. What's your favorite planet?

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite planet, I guess I would say Jupiter. Honestly, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you all right, so you're terrified of Earth, but

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<v Speaker 2>Jupiter is like Jupiter is like, dude, isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Think about how big the Earth is and Jupiter's like,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking how many times bigger than the Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying about the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's crazy. Yeah, And you look.

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<v Speaker 4>At the moon. The Moon's tinier than the Earth, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Sun and the Moon look the same size

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky, even though like the Sun is like

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many times further away, Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's so much bigger. And that's why I'm terrified, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I wow, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about how small an extra large McDonald's fry is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's so tiny, like the super size extra

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<v Speaker 2>large McDonald's fries. You are getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing, like are you talking about in the grand scale

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<v Speaker 4>of the universe, In.

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<v Speaker 2>The grand scale of the universe, you're getting You're literally

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<v Speaker 2>getting nothing compared to Jupiter. It's so small.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the Way should advertise their next sub

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<v Speaker 4>as closer to the size of planets and the size

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<v Speaker 4>of atoms, because technically, I think even though we are

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<v Speaker 4>very small, we're still like closer to the size of

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<v Speaker 4>the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, you're wrong, no way, are you serious? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that true? I think so five is a five dollar

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<v Speaker 2>foot long. I don't know if they still do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a foot long sandwich at subway. I know they

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<v Speaker 2>still don't do that. I go to subway. I like

0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 2>subway is a foot long sandwich at subway closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the size of the Earth than the size of a

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<v Speaker 2>single adam? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I I feel like that was something I've maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I pulled out my ass, but I'm curious. Now I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's true. I feel like it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone in the comments section can answer this question.

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<v Speaker 4>And comment or chat. If I'm totally wrong, you just

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<v Speaker 4>can bring my ass and yeah, I'm stupid because.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, yes realm ream the amateur astrologer astronomer. I

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<v Speaker 2>keep saying astrologer. I I don't know if that's a word.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I mean astronomer.

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<v Speaker 4>Astrology is like star signs, like I'm a Pisces or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know what's your star sign.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly, I don't. I don't follow that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I don't know. I don't believe in astrology. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe in astronomy, so I don't follow any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I am sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you in a relationship of any kind?

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<v Speaker 4>No, unfortunately, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Do your What are your friends and family think about

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<v Speaker 2>how terrified you are of the sun?

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<v Speaker 4>So I haven't like expressed my like total anxiety about it,

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<v Speaker 4>but like they know, I have some like existential dread,

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<v Speaker 4>but like not so specific about like this, like the

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<v Speaker 4>scale of the universe and planets. But they've all been

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<v Speaker 4>pretty supportive. It's just it's been it's been difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>like go outside every day. And I'm not even joking,

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<v Speaker 4>like I know that that might sound like an overstatement,

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<v Speaker 4>but like sometimes it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to go outside.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's been difficult to actually form a bunch of relationships.

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<v Speaker 4>I only have like a few friends, and most of

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<v Speaker 4>them I only communicate nowadays through the Internet, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bit difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother. What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Russ.

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<v Speaker 2>Russ. You're a good guy. Russ. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you seem like, uh, you have a you have

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<v Speaker 2>what I would call a respect for life. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a respect for life, for life. You have a respect

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<v Speaker 2>for life, and uh, you seem like a cool guy, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>doing your music thing, looking through your telescope, doing your

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<v Speaker 2>amateur astronomy. Hang in there, try your best to not

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<v Speaker 2>have an existential crisis every time you look at grass.

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<v Speaker 2>What like, next time you look at grass, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>having an existential crisis, why don't you just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>look how beautiful this fucking grass is? You can and

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<v Speaker 2>you can make that decision.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been honestly while now that you say that, like

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<v Speaker 4>the past like a couple of weeks, it's been really

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<v Speaker 4>nice weather. I've been sitting outside a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been looking at like butterflies and like caterpillars

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<v Speaker 4>and shit, and like it's It's honestly didn't blow in

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<v Speaker 4>my mind a little bit because I've been spending so

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<v Speaker 4>much time inside looking at like TV screens and ship

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<v Speaker 4>for the past like two years or so, i'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like looking at grass and looking at trees

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<v Speaker 4>and looking at like insects. It's just such a beautiful experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna lie, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. My final message tall the people at home, if

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<v Speaker 2>I could say one thing, it's get off your computer

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<v Speaker 2>and go outside and look at bugs.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree you're gonna I know how at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of every phone call you asked, like people their last thing,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't even you say a last thing that's

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you meant, that's the last thing I

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<v Speaker 4>would say. Have a good night, Russ, have a good night, Lie,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I killed an ant? Oh? I uh, there wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>was at my desk and there's an ant, and just instinctively,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about it, but I killed the ant,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt bad because I I'll think about the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that me and Russ we're talking about, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that ant is comparatively as big as I am,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's not that much difference between me and the ants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I killed it because for no reason. Really. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if the ant was like another person, I probably wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if there's an intruder in my home, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I would. I mean, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>would have killed them, But it's an ants. Why would

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know? I'm gonna try to kill less ants.

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<v Speaker 2>Is anyone ever played the ant Bully video game? That's

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<v Speaker 2>like Grand Theft Auto, but instead of killing people, you

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<v Speaker 2>kill ants. All Right, that's it for my post. Call thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>To whom do I have the pleasure to whom do

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<v Speaker 2>I have the pleasure of speaking?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brian. I got a speakerphone for you.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it makes me. I've been okay. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been feeling calm. I've been feeling calm. I've been managing anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>I drank a melted TwixT bar in a bottle. They

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<v Speaker 2>sell that. Now. That was my blunder of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did do that, and I'm glad I did,

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<v Speaker 2>just so that. It's one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 2>walk I walk. There's a little place I go to

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<v Speaker 2>every day for the path. I've been going there every

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<v Speaker 2>day for a week, and every time I go in there,

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<v Speaker 2>I pass by the liquified twist in a bottle. And

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<v Speaker 2>I knew the second I saw it that one day

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to find out what that tastes like.

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<v Speaker 2>And today was the day. And I almost feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a healthy thing to do because I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm gonna have it again, and I just

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 2>satisfied my curiosity and that felt like enough. Hopefully that's enough.

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully I'm not if I come back here tomorrow and

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I said I got another one, then that's you. Then

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 2>call call someone, Call someone. I need help. Yeah, it's

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>like a TwixT drink. It's like a fucking they have

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>them in Twigs, Snickers Bounty. That's fucking crazy. I don't

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>know who. I don't know who's drinking these. I see

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>so many things at the grocery store and I'm like,

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck has this as a regular part of

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>their of diet. But I mean it might it might

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>be me one day. But I'm gonna we're gonna stop

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about this. I'm gonna put a pin in this

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 2>what is your name? One of more time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>promise I won't ever forget it ever in my life.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go by bruh. But uh, I wanted to

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about your e bike interest.

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>My e bike interest. When did I talk about being

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>interested in? I am here's I am interested in being

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I am interested in e bikes? But when did I

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>When did I mention that?

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>So I was watching Sorry, let me get back off

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the speaker. I was watching some of the clips. I

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's from a video posted like two days ago, okay,

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and I I saw you talking to somebody about them

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>like loving their e bikes, and you're like, I'm interested

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in an e bike, But dude, I've been riding my

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>e bike. I traded a fucking guitar for an e

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>bike and it's been the greatest trade in my life.

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Like ship on my e bike. But I got a

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>scar now, so that's kind of cool.

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>But uh, oh okay, hold on, let's stop right there,

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>because I am very interested in e bikes. I just

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>moved to New York. I don't have a car. I'm

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to get around zipping around with the e bike now,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been looking into those. But the one issue

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I have is that I'm very afraid I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>die and get hit by so a car.

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're afraid you're gonna die. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>what a suran is, do not buy one of those.

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a siron. I just I research them

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>because I want one in the future. I know I

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>kill myself on one. Those get up to like fifty

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>miles an hour.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck that, I don't need that.

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's like death trap extreme. But I've got

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>a Super seventy three. It's like a Z one I

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>think it is, and it gets up to like twenty eight.

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I have I have had no idea. What you I

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you just said. You said it was

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck did you just say? You said a

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>bunch of random numbers?

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Three? Okay, yeah, so it's a it's like a class

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>too to where it only gets up to like twenty

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>eight miles an hour to where.

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, nice. I know. I was, I was,

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was on all the websites and stuff,

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and I researched the little class classes. I saw Class

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>two is the one where it's not it's not too crazy.

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking for a class so like.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Class three, you get pulled over and they'll take it, like,

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll take it and you won't see it again. Class

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>two it's like, I don't even know if they'd even

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>pull you over for it.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you need a This is so funny people who

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>are listening to this podcast for the first time and

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>tuning in and then here he bike. Well, all right,

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 2>well tell me about your life. Where do you ride

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the sea bike arounds?

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So I live in the mountains. I'm in like western

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. So I got I'm at like three thousand elevation,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of hills, like up and down.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So I got to work on my brakes a lot.

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you're in a flat area wherever you're at,

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're one to the e bike around, it is one

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>worth it because that's even less mainlance than I'm doing.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you what's your life like in Western North Carolin?

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>How do you pass the time as you as you

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>slowly die? Uh?

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Mostly just doing shit that interests me. I'm probably going

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>camping on Friday, Okay. Uh, I don't know. Man, if

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you get in that thought loop in like western North Carolina,

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like what do I do today? You aren't getting to

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ship because you will just get in that loop of

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>This town is empty, But I find shit to do.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess, tell me what a lot did you find

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>to do in in western North Carolina?

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 3>So?

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh, mainly I've been getting into like mycology, like studying

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>mushroom shit cool, and that's been so awesome. I just

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>did so I don't even want to explain it. It's

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>way too much. I did like some genetics on a

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>piece of goop and then put that into a jar.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And now that can grow into mushrooms eventually. But I've

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>got some lines name going on my fridge right now.

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's about the rude again.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 2>That's cool that you can turn street come into a

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>psychedelic drug.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's incredible. I don't understand. They just ship

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it all around everywhere, Like I could buy like gallons

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of that shit and it's legal. But whenever I make

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it go freaky fruit, then it's illegal. So it's weird.

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>So is that is that how you make a living?

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Is selling mushrooms?

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>No? I I do like a personal thing. I don't

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>really want to do wholesale or anything like that because

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>unless it's like a legal one, it's not very fun

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And I don't really want to go to jail. But

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that'd be sick as fuck to have like a trailer

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>going eventually where it's just like all legal mushrooms.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool. Well what's the I'm you

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>seem all right, let's get into this part. Let's get

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>into this. You seem like a pretty chill guy. Is

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>there anything wrong with you?

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>By the way, by the way, oh you don't have

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't have to tell you no, no, no,

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you know I was okay, I was gonna say, if

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you you don't have to dig deep to find something

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>if there's nothing, but oh no, sorry, I don't even

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>tell me. Go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry. I have

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the left a little bit, dude, I'm sorry.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Bathroom, a whole bathroom downstairs in my apartment full of clowns.

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if I counted, I think last time we counted.

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Where eighty eight.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God him at a hundred towns, yeah,

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>eachat like in that yeah, oh yeah, what like little

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>little figure dudes like you ever go to Goodwill and

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you see like Grandma died and they took everything in

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>her house and put it on the shelf. I'd buy

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the clown ship.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Because the way that you were describing this was not

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>as if you were collecting them. It was if they

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>were in your house, multiplying of their own volition.

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know that the collect once haunted. I'm

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>not even like, I'm not paranormal none of that. I

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>have videos of that shit making noise on its own

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>multiple times. It makes no sense.

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>What made you want to start collecting clowns?

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>They started appearing at my Goodwill a lot, and I

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>was just like, who's gonna collect these? So I know

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>there's someone else that had them. But I just started

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>seeing them like fucking everywhere, and I was like, well,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be something behind this. So I just

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>started getting them and I was like, this is a joke,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>but it started filling up my bathroom kind of like

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>some crazy maniac thing. But I mean, they're on the walls,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they're on the floor. I can send a picture if

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you want. If you don't believe me, I mean, I'm

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a clown maniac now. I don't even know how this happened.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>What is it you like about the clowns that compels you,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that draws you into them?

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at them today, like just staring at

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the wall because there's one pictured on the wall where

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a ton of clowns they're looking at you.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But I was just kind of looking at it and

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking they're looking at me, like I'm the clown, but

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they're the clown on the wall. I don't know. I

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's supposed to be some kind of deep

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>thing with all the clown shit, and that's what a

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people expect. But I swear to god, I

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't even know why I started collecting it. It was just like, oh,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>there's that.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, tell me, tell me more. What you mean when

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>you say that they look at you as though you

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>were the clown?

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like I just feel like that's what

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to say, is they look like I'm looking

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>at the one it's above the toilet. I try to

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>face them to where they're all looking at you, like

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>if I had a friend come over and take a shit,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Like they're all looking at you while you're taking a shit.

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But there's one in particular on the wall that's like pointing,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>like he's in full makeup and a painting and he's

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>pointing at you, and it's just kind of like I

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>was just kind of getting the idea like, hey, this

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>is you, but it's actually, dude, you're the clown on

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the wall.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever feel like a clown?

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's been getting better, though, it's like it's like

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>off and on.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>What what are the times in which you feel like

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>a clown?

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I guess whenever I'm in the

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>clown bathroom gotta bend in?

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you so you believe that these clouds. Sorry, my

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>throat is it's covered in Twis you believe that you're

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>in danger of as some kind? Do you believe you're

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>in danger?

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe in haunted things?

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in them until it like looked at

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.959
<v Speaker 1>me straight in the face. Whenever one was just like,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it's one of them's a music box snow globe mixed

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's just sitting like on the ground next to

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other ones that look just like it,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but like just different music boxes. And that one's just

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>made noises and I haven't fucked with it at all,

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and I've just gotten home, walked around. I was like,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is that? And it's like just eerily

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>quietly playing. I opened the bathroom door and it's just

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>singing at me, and I'm freaking out. But I don't know.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you know someone's not possessing that?

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I have a roommate, What do they think of

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the clowns?

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. It was it's not even what

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>he thinks about the clowns. It was like the first

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>time his girlfriend went to the clown bathroom because she

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, do you have some deeper psychological issues, and

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like, no, I just I just think

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they look funny.

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>But do you do you think you have deeper psychological

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>issues that have drawn you to clowns?

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but they're so deep they're not showing themselves. M

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to dig it out for me?

0:34:54.560 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yeah, I can try to do that in five minutes. Well,

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I had no I I asked you, I asked you

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>if there's anything wrong with you, and it doesn't seem

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>like there is. It seems like you actually live a

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty a pretty beautiful existence in western North Carolina. I'm

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I I like your life. I think I think your

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>life likes you.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm so excited to meet too. I'm seeing you.

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's in September or October, whenever you're coming.

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm coming to Charlotte. Fuck yeah. Now

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>when you see me, you can be like, I'm the

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.240
<v Speaker 2>guy with the clown bathroom.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 3>That's what dream was like.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna wake up in a second.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>But well, what do you do? How do you make money?

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>How do you live?

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm uh, I work on computers at my job, so

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I fixed like MacBooks and ship.

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a girlfriends. Yep, how'd you guys meet?

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I met her kind of after high school because I

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was talking to her while I was talking to the

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>girl that I was dating before. But I just thought

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that i'd just be friendly with her, and then eventually

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I just saw that she was a lot of green

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>flags and not many red flags. So I just started

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>dating her. But it's been two years now and it's

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>been amazing. I mean, did she crusade me a fucking clown?

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>If that tells you anything, that's how deep she is

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in this.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>That's very nice. Oh so she's she's supportive of the clowns.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean there's no.

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>That's really nice. M Well, what's your name? Agin the

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>whole way? I promise I told you I would never

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>forget your name, and I'm not going to. It's Brah.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You gave me you said bruh. But I think before

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that you said Brian or Bryant. Yes, sir, Okay, Well Brian,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I think. I actually think you

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>might be the first person to whom I could ever

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>say the clowns are keeping you sane? Could I wouldn't be?

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I really, I really mean this, Brian, I wouldn't touch

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a single variable of your life, like you're you're living

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>a solved Rubic's cube right now. And part of that

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>solved Rubik's clute cube involves having one hundred clowns in

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>your bathroom, and so don't touch anything. Just don't, don't.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Just keep on the wall what you just said, I've

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>got okay, So right now on the wall, we've got

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>one clown that says, I know if you wash your

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't write these either, I know if you washed

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>your hands or not. That's one clown who hold on

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the other one says who wrote them? My friend Gabe.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I thought you were gonna be like they wrote

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 2>them themselves during the night.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be great. Uh yeah. One of them says

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>uh or the second one says, I stay busting and gushing.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And then the third one's facing you like as a

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>toilet while you're taking a piss, and it says, maybe

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>it is small, and.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that, Briant.

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you want to say to the people

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 2>of the computer before we go?

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I love you.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>That's really sweet of you to say, Brian. Don't don't

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>don't change anything about your life. You're living exactly perfectly. Okay,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Lyle, Bye, Brian.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you soon, see a baby, see you.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Hi?

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 6>Who is this?

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Uh? What's your name?

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 3>My name is Timmy? What's yours? Whoos list?

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh? My name is Lyle?

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is Lyle the Gecko?

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, Lyle the Gecko? What's up? Timmy? Timmy Turner? Timmy

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 2>was an average kid? What a sad first line of

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a song? Timmy was an average kid that no one

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 2>could understand. It's crazy, isn't that?

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>That's like a contradiction, being like, how can how can

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you be both an average person but also be someone

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that no one can understand? You know what I mean?

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No, I get it?

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, how.

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But what do you? How do you get it? Because

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's directly competent because if if somebody is really average,

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you would think like their average that means that they

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 2>have so much in common with ever they experience, the

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 2>average person's experience, and thus they would be easy to understand.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But how in this situation you're both easy. You're both

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>difficult to understand and average, which doesn't make sense. Timmy,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 2>what's up? How's life you doing, what's up? What's going

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>on my life?

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 5>So my life is doing great. Actually now up until

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, up until very recently started this year, I

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 5>was massively suicidal, but I had ketamine therapy and therapy

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 5>doing just great.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, slow, slow your role real quick. So you're

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 2>doing you did ketamine. I had a buddy of mine

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>do do ketamine therapy, and he told me it was

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>like like life changing, like restored his will to live

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>type of shit. And I thought that was incredible because

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I've never done. I've like I've kind of pussy footed, uh,

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know back when I was in college in the

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>universe of like antidepressants, but I haven't dove back into

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 2>anything like that recently. Tell me about your ketemine therapy experience.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 5>Sure, so, just a little bit history on me.

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I had.

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I had major an undiagnosed major depressive disorder from basically

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 5>from high school onward. When I got onto college, I

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 5>became massively depressed suicidal, in fact, remained that way for

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 5>about six years. Tried all kinds of antidepressants, exceeded the

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 5>FDA recommended outpatient DOSAH john one by like thirty three

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 5>percent something like that. So, you know, I've been through

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 5>the ringer and therapists were useless. I had taken multiple

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, had experimented with drugs, taken multiple psychedelic drugs, dmt, LSD,

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 5>you name it. I mean I was like, oh yeah,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 5>life is cool, but didn't really help me then, I,

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, just recently was try. My parents found ketymine

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 5>therapy for me, and that did the trick. I'm no

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 5>longer suicidal at all. I am no longer I no

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 5>longer considerent. I do still take a daily antidepressant en I

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 5>get that out there, but it really only mildly helped.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 5>I was very and a bit anxious. I now no

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.720
<v Speaker 5>longer consider myself either one of those things.

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's fascinating. Tell So here's what I want to know.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Watch my my my main curiosity. I'll get to that.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>But what what what did you actually do? How long

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 2>did you do the treatment for? Well? What was it like?

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 5>So initially, so the initial treatment was across two weeks,

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 5>six treatments. It was intravenous ketamine therapy. So you go

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 5>into their office, it's a you know, impatient. They have

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 5>medical professionals there to make sure you know, you don't die.

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 5>They get you hooked up to all these different vitals

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 5>and then they say, okay, we're going to stick a

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 5>needle in you and then you know, an IV drip

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 5>and basically for forty minutes you're given intravenous ketamine. Uh

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 5>you know about a dosage per weight, you know, and

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 5>they try and they would generally would bring it up

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 5>if they thought, you know, you benefit from it. And

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 5>you kind of trip for forty minutes. Then you have

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 5>about twenty minutes of kind of cool down basically just

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 5>kind of you know, being less nauxious to give the

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 5>anti nausea drugs two. Then you're out in like an

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 5>hour and a half, less than two hours. You can't

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 5>drive yourself, you know, there and back because you know

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 5>you're all loopy after. But so that initial treatment I

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 5>think really changed my life for me. Now, the effects

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 5>of a kenemy are you know, like antidepressants, they're transient, so

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 5>the effects were off after some time. I currently get

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 5>boosters every eight weeks, but I've never had any depressive

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 5>like major depressive symptoms in the meantime.

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>So sele slow down real quick. So you did this

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 2>one intravenous h session, and that was it. Did you

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>do any other intervenous sessions?

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 5>I started with six across two weeks.

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Six across six across the course of two weeks or

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 2>two weeks six and then two weeks and then wow,

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 2>six across across of two weeks. That's extensive.

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, yeah it was.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>It was great though.

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 5>I had one bad trip, but I recovered from it

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 5>on the next one, So.

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 2>So it did. It did six, It did six across

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 2>two weeks, and then uh, a booster every eight weeks

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>after that.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and you still take a day and I get depressed.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Though, and uh, how long is there? Is it a

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>thing where it's like six across two weeks and then

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you're done or do you go back?

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 5>So you could be done after Some people do it

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 5>six across two weeks and they're and you know, Kenemy

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 5>doesn't work for everybody, but some people they take it

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 5>and they're done after their first successions.

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 5>Some people do finish.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 5>Now for me, I had the you know, basically honestly

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 5>the resources continue to do it, and you know, I

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 5>enjoy drugs, so I keep on. I like doing it

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 5>and helps me help some mentally, but so you know,

0:44:58.480 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 5>and there's a lot of downsides to wh and I

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 5>could talk.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 2>So let me get let me, let me, let me

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 2>get to here's my main curios, here's what I really

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>want to know, and here's kind of like it feeds

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>into a battle that I have, uh, in terms of

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 2>a battle of like what contributes to a human beings

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 2>happiness and how much of that is internal versus external?

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So tell me, having found a new lease on life

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>in your in this change in your brain chemistry, what

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of external changes have you been able to make

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>to to your external life as a results.

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 5>Sure, that's a great question. So external changes are made

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 5>as a result of my ketamine usage. So because I'm

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 5>no longer depressed, and now I've realized that I really

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 5>wasn't enjoying my job as an engineer. I have a

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 5>degree mechanical engineering. I realized I was making me miserable.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 5>And now I'm going back to school to become a

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 5>high school mass teacher.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Cool, very cool, And you feel as though ketamine helped

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 2>you make that decision or come to that conclusion.

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it helps me view It allowed me to view

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 5>my life in a much more detached way. In the

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 5>association is one of the symptoms of ketamine. And it's like, oh,

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, sort of things in life happen to you

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 5>and you react to them a certain way and allows

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 5>me to have a new perspective on life where oh,

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, bad weather or not bad climate. You know,

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 5>sometimes it rains when I get all wet, but I

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 5>know I'll be war and dry again. But the differences

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 5>no longer have the permanent clouds over my head, like

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:34.479
<v Speaker 5>you or that never seemed to part?

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 2>You know? And what other external changes? What about relationships?

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Things like that.

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 5>I have made an effort to make more friends. I

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 5>definitely believe that when I was at my lowest, I

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 5>didn't have any friends. Now I have friends and a

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:49.919
<v Speaker 5>support network, and that really helps too.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Has it has it helped you be better in your

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>existing relationships or find new ones?

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 5>I would say it has helped. I don't know if

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 5>i'd say it helped me find new ones. I say

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 5>it's gotten me more proactive and trying to make myself

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 5>more available to meet new people.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 5>But I'd say my relationship is definitely healthier with my

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 5>whole family because it used to be several times a

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 5>week i'd call my mom or my dad and say, hey,

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 5>I want to kill myself. I think about this all

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 5>the time every day helped me more or less. And

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.439
<v Speaker 5>you know they can't do anything because you know, several

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 5>states away. And now we actually get to talk about

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 5>fun stuff because you're not constantly worried. All am I

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna offer myself?

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>It's cool. That's cool, man. What a crazy fucking time

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 2>we live in. I wonder, I do, I really do wonder,

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>like what the statistics are on like depression and anxiety,

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred years ago, like because I don't know,

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 2>back then, it was like everyone had everyone just worked

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 2>out in I'm so stupid. Everyone like worked in fields

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and shit and fucking factories, and it's like when you're

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 2>assembling bottles of tooth paste, like I don't do you

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 2>even have time to be depressed or or are you

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 2>more depressed? I don't know. But where you live at

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 2>a crazy time, where you can fucking where you can

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking take some ketamine and make your life better. But

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 2>by the way, which I'm I guess I'm a fan of.

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we we use a lot of modern medicine

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>to make our physical bodies and minds better. So you know,

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>go crazy, take all the take, take all the cocaine

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and ketamine you want.

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh maybe that's that's careful though, because cocaine and ketamine

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 5>are not the same.

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I was, Timmy, Timmy, I was, I was, I was joking.

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I was joking.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 5>No, fine, but people at home, ke ket can be addictive.

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.359
<v Speaker 5>Don't source it yourself and do it yourself, because it's

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 5>what killed Matthew Perry. So be careful out there. Don't

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 5>be like, oh I should go out and do what's academy. No,

0:48:58.920 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 5>it's addictive and it can kill me.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, h yeah you know what. Yes yet, No, Timmy,

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you're right, uh fucking yes. A disclaimer for the folks

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>at home. Timmy is talking about uh medically induced ketamine therapy.

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 2>He didn't buy it from a guy in an alleyway,

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.479
<v Speaker 2>and now he's cured. So, uh, if you're gonna do this, ship,

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 2>if you're if you listen to this call and you're like,

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>oh fuck yeah, because my brother was telling about ketamine

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 2>therapy and I was like, oh fuck, I should give

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 2>that a try. So if you if you hear this

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh fuck, I should give that a try,

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 2>don't uh don't don't text a guy on WhatsApp about it.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 2>If called call a call a fucking doctor. What's your

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 2>well before we go, Timmy, what's uh? What's your dream?

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>What's next? What are you gonna achieve with your life

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 2>now that you don't want to kill yourself?

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 4>So?

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 5>My, uh my, more, my most realistic dream is that

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go ahead and be high school math teacher.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Want to for the next thirty forty years. There's some

0:49:58.760 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 5>other spice of your stuff we want.

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 2>To that though, spicier, So what kind of I mean

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 2>you by the way, you by the way, by the way,

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>that was quite a bait that you just pulled right there.

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 2>There's some spicier stuff, but we don't have to get

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>into it, right.

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, it's it's more or less political. I'm very

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 5>upset with the current political network, and I'm like, oh,

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 5>I want to go out and try.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 3>To fix that.

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 5>But I don't know if you're show needs to dive

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 5>into the political stuff. But I'm very passionate. So you

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 5>might be hearing more from me and about me in

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:28.959
<v Speaker 5>my ten years, but we'll see.

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>That'd be so crazy if you were the president in

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>ten years and I and then this, this phone call

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>makes its way around the internet and it's just me

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 2>in the video version of this. I'm shirtless. So I

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 2>hope you become president so that this clip can go

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.800
<v Speaker 2>viral and everyone can I guess see what my shoulders

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>look like, Timmy's anything else? I say to the people

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 5>No, sorry, yeah, the people at home be kind to you.

0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 5>Get I didn't pop into the stream. But and there

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 5>are some people in my life. You've been having some

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, difficulties right now with self worth, and I

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 5>just want to make sure that you get We're very

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 5>aware that you know, you had a positive impact on

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 5>many different people, and no matter if anyone ever says

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 5>anything mean to you or about you, you should definitely

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 5>take that with a grain of folk because you're going

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 5>to gonna focus on the next lot more than the positive.

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 5>So you realize how much you've helped me and other people.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Timmy. That's really really really nice of you

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.919
<v Speaker 2>to say. I'm gonna I'm going to try to take

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 2>that into account and and uh and uh not not

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.760
<v Speaker 2>hate myself. That is very very excited, tim I appreciate

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you man.

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I mean, if you hate yourself, you're in

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 5>a small company, because I don't think a lot of

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 5>people hate you.

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, So thanks man, thank you, thank you very much, Timmy, Timmy. Bye,

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 2>congratulations man, uh, congratulations on a new lease on life.

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I know, uh, there's a lot of people out there

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>who are like, oh God, is this it is this life?

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>If this is life, then I don't know.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's glad to hear a story from somebody

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 2>who felt that way and now seems seems to be

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>doing pretty good. So I'm I'm proud of you, Timmy.

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:15.919
<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 5>If you can't get Kennmy, get friends, They're almost If you.

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 2>Can't get Kennymy and get friends, I like that. Take

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 2>care of Timmy YouTube.

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for the call.

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Good bye. Hello.

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's up is this?

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Style?

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Who is this?

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Holy shit?

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 1>My name is Travis.

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, Travis, what's going on? How can I get you today?

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Hour's life?

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 6>Life is pretty great?

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.840
<v Speaker 6>Holy fuck, I'm so much more nervous than I expected.

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't be If you saw the where I'm recording this

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 2>right now, you would actually think that I am on

0:52:55.480 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the run from the law. So this is a lot

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 2>of pressure stream for a little bit.

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 6>I popped in the stream for a little bit at first,

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 6>and I saw you were half naked there.

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I am. I am half naked, the top half, the

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 2>top half. So you texted me something I thought was interesting.

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 2>You said that this podcast helped you join the Pokemon

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 2>card community. How the fuck did that happen? What does

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 2>that mean?

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 6>I recently moved out of my house, well out of

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 6>my parents' house, into a pretty well, pretty big city,

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 6>and I found myself in the same problem that a

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:37.879
<v Speaker 6>lot of people on the podcast are, which is how

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 6>to fuck do I make friends? And I kind of

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 6>was trying to think of all the hobbies and all

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 6>the things I like, and something I'm really into right

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 6>now is Pokemon cards. So I went on to Facebook

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 6>group and I found a community that hosts markets once

0:53:55.280 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 6>a month, and yeah, so now once a month or

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 6>now twice actually, I head out there and trade and

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 6>sell and buy Pokemon cards and I made quite a

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 6>few buddies.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Ah ah ah, that's fucking awesome. That's so sick, dude.

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 6>I hear I hear a lot of people.

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:19.839
<v Speaker 6>Saying it a lot on the podcast, because I've been

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 6>been listening binge listening to them at work, and yeah,

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 6>I was like, fuck, I gotta do something about this.

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.359
<v Speaker 6>I can't just sit at home play video games and

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 6>wonder why I'm not why I'm not going out, or

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 6>where's all the people at BRO.

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I think that's awesome. I think that

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 2>because that's what you need, is like uh, is to

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>be a part of some kind of community of people,

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>some ship, and it could be anything.

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well that's that's what you've been repeating right there.

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.879
<v Speaker 6>If there's not already a community, then to create one.

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 6>And I thought about that too, but I guess that's

0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 6>a much larger step to build something.

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I want you host, watch, host tournaments.

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 6>So I don't even play the game. Funny enough, I

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.799
<v Speaker 6>never even tried. I only like them for the collectible

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:13.399
<v Speaker 6>side of it, you know what I mean?

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, Well, I mean you could host uh,

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know galleries. I guess, well there's this.

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 6>There's this one guy that now they pretty much all

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 6>know me pretty good now, and he holds like monthly

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 6>markets where it's just like a bunch of people getting

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:32.799
<v Speaker 6>together and like selling, buying, trading, whatever, and then they

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 6>have other like meat. Yes, I guess, and it's it's

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 6>it's fun.

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:39.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a fun time.

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 6>It's a pretty good way to spend your Sunday afternoon.

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm actually inspired hearing you say this. I got

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to go to more Melee tournaments.

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 1>That was right. Yeah, I hear you.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 6>I hear you talking about it a lot. I really

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 6>like Smash Ultimate, but I've never really played the older

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 6>versions of the game.

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh you should, I mean Smash Ultimate is is? Uh

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:01.400
<v Speaker 2>is for pussies.

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 6>I also, like a few years back, I really wanted

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 6>to get into tournaments, but like I was not in

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 6>my head, I wasn't good enough, I guess, So I

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 6>never I never went out there.

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>No, you're oh, what good enough for for Ultimate or

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 2>for for Melee?

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 6>No, for Ultimate back when it came out like a

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 6>few years Yeah.

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately you can go to an isn't You can

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 2>go to an Ultimate tournament and just like fuck around,

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? You can't. You can't go

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:33.879
<v Speaker 2>to a Melee tournament and fucking around because you'll just

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it won't be fun, you won't like.

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 6>Be able to play because what people playing Melee are

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 6>extremely serious about it.

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're trying to do well, because I

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm gonna get granular about Melee because this is

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 2>my fucking podcast and I can do whatever I want

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and so well. In Melee, it's like there was literally

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like the skill gap between people who know how to

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 2>play the game and people who don't is like huge,

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Like there's literally like a tech skill that if you

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know, oh, you just can't play the fucking game.

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 2>And an ultimately there's not I mean there's still strategy

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and ship, but there's not as much have that hardcore

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.720
<v Speaker 2>uh you know what, you don't tech skill that Melee has. Yes,

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>but you can I mean whatever you can go. You

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 2>can show up, you can jump around as curb, but

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:18.479
<v Speaker 2>you can have a good time.

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm happy to hear that you you made some friends. Bro,

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 2>this is great, This is so cool. I'm inspired by this.

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I gotta take my own advice. I gotta run out.

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I got to do something.

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 6>Who knows And there's there's a bunch of other things

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 6>that I want to do that like not only you,

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 6>but people on this on this podcast inspired me to

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 6>like like I want to keep I want to start

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 6>to play piano again because I was taking lessons when

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I don't know, twelve thirteen or something

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.959
<v Speaker 6>like that, and I should really pick it up again.

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 6>And I really want to go play badminton again because

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 6>I had a good thing going where it was a

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 6>bunch of tournaments and again you make a bunch of

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 6>buddies and you know, it's a community. So that that

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 6>that was also pretty cool. But after that kind of

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 6>died down and never ended up doing it again. But

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 6>now that I'm in the city, it's much easier. There's

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 6>people everywhere willing to do anything.

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, what's your name again, cowboy Travis?

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 6>That's right, who you remembered?

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Who's Who's your favorite Pokemon?

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 6>My favorite Pokemon? I really like Noyburn. You are you

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 6>into Pokemon at all? Like you know Pokemon?

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Dude? What the fuck is Noyburn?

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like a.

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 6>Bat with the ears and it's like kind of detects

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 6>noise or something. I think it's pretty cool.

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like a dragon bat.

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 2>A dragon bat saying, when do.

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<v Speaker 6>You expect Pikachu?

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<v Speaker 2>I I guess, uh, I don't know. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>last time I looked into Pokemon, they're they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>fucking uh like they were making chairs into Pokemon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like chair chair Mond or they made they made a

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<v Speaker 2>chandelier and do a Pokemon and I was like, all right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a Pokemon.

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<v Speaker 6>CHANDELOUI is stick though, CHANDELOUI is stick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is. Travis. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>else you want to say to the people of the

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<v Speaker 2>computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I think everybody you you also, and everybody listening.

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<v Speaker 6>I think everybody should have a more more positive mindset

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<v Speaker 6>when going out there and just you know, of everything,

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<v Speaker 6>because there's I feel like people are just people sound

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<v Speaker 6>sad and sound you know, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta you.

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<v Speaker 6>Gotta be be grateful, I guess for being alive. And

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<v Speaker 6>I always tell myself that it could always be worse,

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<v Speaker 6>And whenever I had a I had a ship day,

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<v Speaker 6>I just tell myself, well, I could be in a

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<v Speaker 6>car crash right now, and I think it helps me

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<v Speaker 6>go through the day a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who's the therapy gecko today? Good luck, Travis, take

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<v Speaker 2>care man? Yeah you doing Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just at the end of my room, took

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and I woke up stomach pumped, no idea

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<v Speaker 3>where I was. Man. Three months of recovery turned into

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<v Speaker 2>See it's very interesting to me because if I died

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<v Speaker 2>and then I got like a second chance, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's almost like you're living on like bonus mode.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing else to say. Goes on the line

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