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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, how's.

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Speaker 2: It going sculling? Good? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you? How long does you can

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Speaker 2: do this for?

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Speaker 4: Don't I don't want to do this game? This game

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Speaker 4: always gets boring.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, okay, that answers that question. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you just told it to me soon tell

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Speaker 2: me again.

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Speaker 4: I did not tell it to you yet, but my

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Speaker 4: name is Russ.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Russ. It says here that you're scared of the sun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, I know this is going to sound kind of ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: but like, I'm honestly kind of legit scared of the

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Speaker 4: sun and a few other things in regards to like space.

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Speaker 4: It gives me, honestly, like an existential dread.

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Speaker 2: Why do you tell me more? Tell me more about

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Speaker 2: why you're scared of the sun?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The first thing that I always say to my family

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Speaker 4: that kind of makes them think I'm crazy is that

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Speaker 4: like the like light speed, right, it's really fast, like

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Speaker 4: about three hundred thousand meters per second or something like that.

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Speaker 4: To go to the moon, if you're going light speed,

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Speaker 4: or take about four seconds. But to get to the

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Speaker 4: Sun they would take about eight minutes, but they look

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Speaker 4: the same size in the sky, like the sun is

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Speaker 4: just gigantic. Man, stars are terrifying, And I don't think

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Speaker 4: normal people realize that we just have this like massive

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Speaker 4: powering all life on earth. I don't know, man, It's

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Speaker 4: such a weird balance of like fuckery that I just

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Speaker 4: can't can't live with.

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Speaker 2: How how often are you thinking about the sun?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I I think I honestly think about this

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Speaker 4: type of shit every day. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: What's the what's the first thing you think about typically

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Speaker 2: when you wake up? Is it the sun?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I I no, definitely not. No.

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Speaker 2: I don't check your phone. Do you check your phone

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Speaker 2: and the when when you first wake up?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No? But I do check my laptop. I guess it's

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Speaker 4: kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 2: What do you first go to on your laptop with at?

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Speaker 4: What if I said rather it would that be a

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Speaker 4: terrible thing?

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Speaker 2: No, A terrible thing would be anything that's not the truth.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm being honest with you, so I guess read it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What subreddit do go on is check home?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: You know, just browsed popular brows the home brows. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you think Curble Space Program, I like that subreddit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so your so your you. The first thing you

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Speaker 2: go to your laptop. You go to Reddit, and you

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Speaker 2: try to find people talking about the sun on a

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Speaker 4: I mean Curbal Space Program is like a video game

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Speaker 4: where rock face and stuff. Yeah do, But like I,

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Speaker 4: I do have a telescope and I am like an

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Speaker 4: amateur astronomer and stuff too, so like this type of

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Speaker 4: but I don't know why, man, Like looking through my

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Speaker 4: telescope has been a thing I haven't been able to

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Speaker 4: do recently because like I just stare into the void

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Speaker 4: of space and I see all like the stars and shit,

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Speaker 4: and just like actually starts to freak me out.

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Speaker 2: I go ahead, I'll I'll save my shit for the end.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Okay. I was gonna say, like my friends and family

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Speaker 4: know that, like I loved space and shit, but they've

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Speaker 4: about to them, because like, how do you explain that

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Speaker 4: you're scared of basically the universe. No, I sound crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're an amateur astronomer, which, by the way, I've never

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Speaker 2: heard a single person ever describe themselves as that. I

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Speaker 2: find that very impressive. You are an amateur astronomer who

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Speaker 2: is ungraid of space. That's like if you were a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't get I don't get paid to

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Speaker 4: like look at the stars or anything though.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, but this is not about money. It's a

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Speaker 2: business what you do. You're an amateur. You describe yourself. No,

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Speaker 2: you describe yourself as an amateur astronomer. That's not a

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Speaker 2: you get from from what I'm hearing, from what I

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Speaker 2: what you're telling me. This is what I think.

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Speaker 4: You're maybe putting too much weight onto the onto the

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Speaker 4: two words amateur astronomer. I just kind of like use

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Speaker 4: that as like a descriptor for like people that like

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Speaker 4: to use telescopes and like your research on what they're

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Speaker 4: looking at and take pictures on a scale.

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Speaker 2: Well, Okay, well are you Are you an amateur astronomer

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Speaker 2: or are you a guy who owns a telescope.

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Speaker 4: To me, they're one and the same, because it's like

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Speaker 4: saying a musician is someone that can own a guitar.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Man, I'm really sad now, I'm sorry. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: disappointed me a lot. I thought you were an amateur

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Speaker 2: astronomers astronomer, no, I will.

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Speaker 4: I don't write down like numbers and do calculations and

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Speaker 4: like all that type of stuff, but like I I

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Speaker 4: everyone talks about how they're amateur astronomers and they just

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Speaker 4: like take pictures of stuff. I don't know, that's what

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Speaker 2: So, uh, at some point there was a little stretch

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Speaker 2: of time where you were really into space but not

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Speaker 4: Excitement? I guess like I would go out like every

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Speaker 4: clear night that I had the chance, you know, like

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Speaker 4: taking taking pictures of uh, like I don't know any

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Uh, some some of the terminologies escaping my brain. But

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Speaker 4: like I would take pictures of like I know that

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Speaker 4: Andromeda Galaxy is a great one. For example, it's one

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Speaker 4: don't know. I get excited about looking at the stars

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Speaker 2: You're nothing. You're nothing, You're nothing.

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Speaker 4: But it's like a tiny speck man floating on another

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Speaker 4: I think I spent too much time thinking about.

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Speaker 2: It, Like, imagine how small our brains are. We are nothing.

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Speaker 2: We are tiny, insignificant little bugs. And if a giant

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Speaker 2: he would be well within his right to do that,

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Speaker 2: because whatever it would be, it would be bigger and smarter,

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Speaker 2: as much as we're well within our right to kill

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Speaker 4: I just think that, like I feel as a human

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Speaker 4: more humans need to kind of have like kind of

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Speaker 4: not trying to say I'm anything special or like smart

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Speaker 2: You described yourself as an amateur astrologist, astronomy astronomer, astrologist

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Speaker 2: or whatever. But you did that, and you need to

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Speaker 2: accept the fact that you did that. Anyway, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 4: mean to mislead. I didn't mean to mislead.

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Speaker 2: I forgive you, I forgive I forgive you. It's okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I kind of lost what I was going

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Speaker 4: to say. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You were you were. Here's what you were. You were

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Speaker 2: trying to say that everyone else should be as afraid

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Speaker 2: Why do you feel some.

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Speaker 4: Degree because it's very much humbled me in my day

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what's his name, uh god, Carl Sega. No,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't him. Did Carl Sagan do this or did

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Speaker 2: and go, damn, uh you know that girl not texting

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think it was like Voyager one or Voyager two.

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Speaker 2: That's why, that's that's why, that's why Carl Sagan wanted

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Speaker 2: them to take the pictures because a girl wasn't texting

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Speaker 2: know if it took, if he asked someone to take it,

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Speaker 2: or if he did do anything. What were you going

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Speaker 4: I was going to ask if you knew that they

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Speaker 4: took pictures of all the planets and the solar system,

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Speaker 2: Ones like at one point in time.

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Speaker 4: No, with a pailblue dot like in the same like

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Speaker 4: a like a panoramic type thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not an amateur astrologist. So are you?

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Speaker 2: What was I going to ask you? Oh? Okay, I

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Speaker 2: want to hear more about how this has humbled you.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear more about how do you live

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Speaker 2: your life differently now that you've internalized that you don't

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Speaker 2: matter in the grand scheme of the planets.

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Speaker 4: That is a very loaded question. I think that it's

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Speaker 4: made me honestly more reclusive, and it's made anxiety worse.

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Speaker 4: And even though I think that at the same time

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Speaker 4: being tiny, I think I go overboard on that and

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Speaker 4: just think about it all the time. So, like, if

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Speaker 4: the way it's affected my life, it's been, I guess

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Speaker 4: not very good. It's been a negative.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you're you came to the right conclusion, which

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Speaker 2: is that you don't matter and your incident it's true,

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Speaker 2: it's really a true thing. But you're using that information

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Speaker 2: in the wrong way. You're using it to be anxious. Well,

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Speaker 2: tell me why, why does that make you anxious that

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Speaker 2: you don't matter.

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Speaker 4: Not so much that I don't matter, It's just that

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Speaker 4: like I'm at the whim of the universe, you know,

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying about the Sun.

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Speaker 2: Think about how small an extra large McDonald's fry is.

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Speaker 4: Nothing, like are you talking about in the grand scale

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Speaker 2: And no, you're wrong, no way, are you serious? Is

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Speaker 2: single adam? Is that true?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I I feel like that was something I've maybe

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's true. I feel like it's true.

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Speaker 2: Someone in the comments section can answer this question.

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Speaker 4: And comment or chat. If I'm totally wrong, you just

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Speaker 2: It is, yes realm ream the amateur astrologer astronomer. I

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Speaker 4: Astrology is like star signs, like I'm a Pisces or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I am sorry.

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Speaker 2: Are you in a relationship of any kind?

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Speaker 4: No, unfortunately, not.

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Speaker 4: So it's been difficult to actually form a bunch of relationships.

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Speaker 2: Brother. What's your name again?

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Speaker 4: My name is Russ.

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Speaker 2: Russ. You're a good guy. Russ. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Is anyone ever played the ant Bully video game? That's

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Speaker 2: episode description. These are really fun shows. They're always wild

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Speaker 2: They're always unpredictable, and I hope to see you guys there.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: To whom do I have the pleasure to whom do

446
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Speaker 2: I have the pleasure of speaking?

447
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Speaker 1: This is Brian. I got a speakerphone for you.

448
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Speaker 2: By the way, it makes me. I've been okay. I've

449
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: been feeling calm. I've been feeling calm. I've been managing anxiety.

450
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: I drank a melted TwixT bar in a bottle. They

451
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Speaker 2: sell that. Now. That was my blunder of the day.

452
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Speaker 2: But I did do that, and I'm glad I did,

453
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Speaker 2: just so that. It's one of those things where you

454
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Speaker 2: walk I walk. There's a little place I go to

455
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Speaker 2: every day for the path. I've been going there every

456
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Speaker 2: day for a week, and every time I go in there,

457
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Speaker 2: I pass by the liquified twist in a bottle. And

458
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Speaker 2: I knew the second I saw it that one day

459
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Speaker 2: I would have to find out what that tastes like.

460
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Speaker 2: And today was the day. And I almost feel like

461
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Speaker 2: it was a healthy thing to do because I I

462
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Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna have it again, and I just

463
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: satisfied my curiosity and that felt like enough. Hopefully that's enough.

464
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Speaker 2: Hopefully I'm not if I come back here tomorrow and

465
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Speaker 2: I said I got another one, then that's you. Then

466
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Speaker 2: call call someone, Call someone. I need help. Yeah, it's

467
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: like a TwixT drink. It's like a fucking they have

468
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Speaker 2: them in Twigs, Snickers Bounty. That's fucking crazy. I don't

469
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Speaker 2: know who. I don't know who's drinking these. I see

470
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: so many things at the grocery store and I'm like,

471
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Speaker 2: who the fuck has this as a regular part of

472
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Speaker 2: their of diet. But I mean it might it might

473
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Speaker 2: be me one day. But I'm gonna we're gonna stop

474
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Speaker 2: talking about this. I'm gonna put a pin in this

475
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: what is your name? One of more time, and I

476
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Speaker 2: promise I won't ever forget it ever in my life.

477
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Speaker 1: I'll just go by bruh. But uh, I wanted to

478
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about your e bike interest.

479
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Speaker 2: My e bike interest. When did I talk about being

480
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Speaker 2: interested in? I am here's I am interested in being

481
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: I am interested in e bikes? But when did I

482
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Speaker 2: When did I mention that?

483
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: So I was watching Sorry, let me get back off

484
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Speaker 1: the speaker. I was watching some of the clips. I

485
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Speaker 1: think it's from a video posted like two days ago, okay,

486
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: and I I saw you talking to somebody about them

487
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: like loving their e bikes, and you're like, I'm interested

488
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Speaker 1: in an e bike, But dude, I've been riding my

489
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Speaker 1: e bike. I traded a fucking guitar for an e

490
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Speaker 1: bike and it's been the greatest trade in my life.

491
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Speaker 1: Like ship on my e bike. But I got a

492
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Speaker 1: scar now, so that's kind of cool.

493
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Speaker 2: But uh, oh okay, hold on, let's stop right there,

494
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Speaker 2: because I am very interested in e bikes. I just

495
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: moved to New York. I don't have a car. I'm

496
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Speaker 2: trying to get around zipping around with the e bike now,

497
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Speaker 2: so I've been looking into those. But the one issue

498
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: I have is that I'm very afraid I'm going to

499
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: die and get hit by so a car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're afraid you're gonna die. If you know

501
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Speaker 1: what a suran is, do not buy one of those.

502
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Speaker 2: Uh.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't have a siron. I just I research them

504
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: because I want one in the future. I know I

505
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Speaker 1: kill myself on one. Those get up to like fifty

506
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Speaker 1: miles an hour.

507
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Speaker 2: Oh fuck that, I don't need that.

508
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's like death trap extreme. But I've got

509
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Speaker 1: a Super seventy three. It's like a Z one I

510
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Speaker 1: think it is, and it gets up to like twenty eight.

511
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Speaker 2: I have I have had no idea. What you I

512
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Speaker 2: don't know what you just said. You said it was

513
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Speaker 2: what the fuck did you just say? You said a

514
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Speaker 2: bunch of random numbers?

515
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Speaker 1: Three? Okay, yeah, so it's a it's like a class

516
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Speaker 1: too to where it only gets up to like twenty

517
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Speaker 1: eight miles an hour to where.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, nice. I know. I was, I was,

519
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Speaker 2: I was. I was on all the websites and stuff,

520
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Speaker 2: and I researched the little class classes. I saw Class

521
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: two is the one where it's not it's not too crazy.

522
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Speaker 2: So I'm looking for a class so like.

523
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Speaker 1: Class three, you get pulled over and they'll take it, like,

524
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: they'll take it and you won't see it again. Class

525
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: two it's like, I don't even know if they'd even

526
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Speaker 1: pull you over for it.

527
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: Do you need a This is so funny people who

528
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: are listening to this podcast for the first time and

529
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: tuning in and then here he bike. Well, all right,

530
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: well tell me about your life. Where do you ride

531
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: the sea bike arounds?

532
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: So I live in the mountains. I'm in like western

533
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. So I got I'm at like three thousand elevation,

534
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of hills, like up and down.

535
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: So I got to work on my brakes a lot.

536
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Speaker 1: But if you're in a flat area wherever you're at,

537
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: and you're one to the e bike around, it is one

538
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: worth it because that's even less mainlance than I'm doing.

539
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Speaker 2: What do you what's your life like in Western North Carolin?

540
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Speaker 2: How do you pass the time as you as you

541
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: slowly die? Uh?

542
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: Mostly just doing shit that interests me. I'm probably going

543
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: camping on Friday, Okay. Uh, I don't know. Man, if

544
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: you get in that thought loop in like western North Carolina,

545
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: like what do I do today? You aren't getting to

546
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: ship because you will just get in that loop of

547
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: This town is empty, But I find shit to do.

548
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: I guess, tell me what a lot did you find

549
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: to do in in western North Carolina?

550
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: So?

551
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: Uh, mainly I've been getting into like mycology, like studying

552
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: mushroom shit cool, and that's been so awesome. I just

553
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: did so I don't even want to explain it. It's

554
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: way too much. I did like some genetics on a

555
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: piece of goop and then put that into a jar.

556
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: And now that can grow into mushrooms eventually. But I've

557
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: got some lines name going on my fridge right now.

558
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: It's about the rude again.

559
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: That's cool that you can turn street come into a

560
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: psychedelic drug.

561
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's incredible. I don't understand. They just ship

562
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: it all around everywhere, Like I could buy like gallons

563
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: of that shit and it's legal. But whenever I make

564
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: it go freaky fruit, then it's illegal. So it's weird.

565
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: So is that is that how you make a living?

566
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: Is selling mushrooms?

567
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: No? I I do like a personal thing. I don't

568
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Speaker 1: really want to do wholesale or anything like that because

569
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: unless it's like a legal one, it's not very fun

570
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: And I don't really want to go to jail. But

571
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: that'd be sick as fuck to have like a trailer

572
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: going eventually where it's just like all legal mushrooms.

573
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool. Well what's the I'm you

574
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: seem all right, let's get into this part. Let's get

575
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: into this. You seem like a pretty chill guy. Is

576
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: there anything wrong with you?

577
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

578
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, oh you don't have

579
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Speaker 2: you don't you don't have to tell you no, no, no,

580
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: you know I was okay, I was gonna say, if

581
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: you you don't have to dig deep to find something

582
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: if there's nothing, but oh no, sorry, I don't even

583
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: tell me. Go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry. I have

584
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: the left a little bit, dude, I'm sorry.

585
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: Bathroom, a whole bathroom downstairs in my apartment full of clowns.

586
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Like if I counted, I think last time we counted.

587
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: Where eighty eight.

588
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I swear to God him at a hundred towns, yeah,

589
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: eachat like in that yeah, oh yeah, what like little

590
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: little figure dudes like you ever go to Goodwill and

591
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: you see like Grandma died and they took everything in

592
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: her house and put it on the shelf. I'd buy

593
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: the clown ship.

594
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: Because the way that you were describing this was not

595
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: as if you were collecting them. It was if they

596
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: were in your house, multiplying of their own volition.

597
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know that the collect once haunted. I'm

598
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: not even like, I'm not paranormal none of that. I

599
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: have videos of that shit making noise on its own

600
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: multiple times. It makes no sense.

601
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: What made you want to start collecting clowns?

602
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: They started appearing at my Goodwill a lot, and I

603
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: was just like, who's gonna collect these? So I know

604
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: there's someone else that had them. But I just started

605
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: seeing them like fucking everywhere, and I was like, well,

606
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: there's got to be something behind this. So I just

607
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: started getting them and I was like, this is a joke,

608
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: but it started filling up my bathroom kind of like

609
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: some crazy maniac thing. But I mean, they're on the walls,

610
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: they're on the floor. I can send a picture if

611
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: you want. If you don't believe me, I mean, I'm

612
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: a clown maniac now. I don't even know how this happened.

613
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: What is it you like about the clowns that compels you,

614
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: that draws you into them?

615
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

616
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Man.

617
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: I was looking at them today, like just staring at

618
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: the wall because there's one pictured on the wall where

619
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: it's just like a ton of clowns they're looking at you.

620
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: But I was just kind of looking at it and

621
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: thinking they're looking at me, like I'm the clown, but

622
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: they're the clown on the wall. I don't know. I

623
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: feel like there's supposed to be some kind of deep

624
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: thing with all the clown shit, and that's what a

625
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of people expect. But I swear to god, I

626
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: don't even know why I started collecting it. It was just like, oh,

627
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: there's that.

628
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: Well, tell me, tell me more. What you mean when

629
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: you say that they look at you as though you

630
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: were the clown?

631
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just feel like that's what

632
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, is they look like I'm looking

633
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: at the one it's above the toilet. I try to

634
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: face them to where they're all looking at you, like

635
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: if I had a friend come over and take a shit,

636
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: Like they're all looking at you while you're taking a shit.

637
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: But there's one in particular on the wall that's like pointing,

638
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: like he's in full makeup and a painting and he's

639
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: pointing at you, and it's just kind of like I

640
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: was just kind of getting the idea like, hey, this

641
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: is you, but it's actually, dude, you're the clown on

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: the wall.

643
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like a clown?

644
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's been getting better, though, it's like it's like

645
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: off and on.

646
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: What what are the times in which you feel like

647
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: a clown?

648
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I guess whenever I'm in the

649
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: clown bathroom gotta bend in?

650
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: Are you so you believe that these clouds. Sorry, my

651
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: throat is it's covered in Twis you believe that you're

652
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: in danger of as some kind? Do you believe you're

653
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: in danger?

654
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

655
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: Do you believe in haunted things?

656
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe in them until it like looked at

657
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: me straight in the face. Whenever one was just like,

658
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: it's one of them's a music box snow globe mixed

659
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: and it's just sitting like on the ground next to

660
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: a couple of other ones that look just like it,

661
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: but like just different music boxes. And that one's just

662
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: made noises and I haven't fucked with it at all,

663
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and I've just gotten home, walked around. I was like,

664
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: what the hell is that? And it's like just eerily

665
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: quietly playing. I opened the bathroom door and it's just

666
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: singing at me, and I'm freaking out. But I don't know.

667
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: Do you know someone's not possessing that?

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: No, I have a roommate, What do they think of

669
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: the clowns?

670
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know. It was it's not even what

671
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: he thinks about the clowns. It was like the first

672
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: time his girlfriend went to the clown bathroom because she

673
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: was like, do you have some deeper psychological issues, and

674
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, no, I just I just think

675
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: they look funny.

676
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: But do you do you think you have deeper psychological

677
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: issues that have drawn you to clowns?

678
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: Maybe, but they're so deep they're not showing themselves. M

679
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: you want to dig it out for me?

680
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, I can try to do that in five minutes. Well,

681
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: I had no I I asked you, I asked you

682
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: if there's anything wrong with you, and it doesn't seem

683
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: like there is. It seems like you actually live a

684
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: pretty a pretty beautiful existence in western North Carolina. I'm

685
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: I I like your life. I think I think your

686
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: life likes you.

687
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: Dude.

688
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so excited to meet too. I'm seeing you.

689
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I think it's in September or October, whenever you're coming.

690
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm coming to Charlotte. Fuck yeah. Now

691
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: when you see me, you can be like, I'm the

692
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: guy with the clown bathroom.

693
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: That's what dream was like.

694
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wake up in a second.

695
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: But well, what do you do? How do you make money?

696
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: How do you live?

697
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm uh, I work on computers at my job, so

698
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: I fixed like MacBooks and ship.

699
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a girlfriends. Yep, how'd you guys meet?

700
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I met her kind of after high school because I

701
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: was talking to her while I was talking to the

702
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: girl that I was dating before. But I just thought

703
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: that i'd just be friendly with her, and then eventually

704
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: I just saw that she was a lot of green

705
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: flags and not many red flags. So I just started

706
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: dating her. But it's been two years now and it's

707
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: been amazing. I mean, did she crusade me a fucking clown?

708
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: If that tells you anything, that's how deep she is

709
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: in this.

710
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: That's very nice. Oh so she's she's supportive of the clowns.

711
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there's no.

712
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: That's really nice. M Well, what's your name? Agin the

713
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: whole way? I promise I told you I would never

714
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: forget your name, and I'm not going to. It's Brah.

715
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: You gave me you said bruh. But I think before

716
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: that you said Brian or Bryant. Yes, sir, Okay, Well Brian,

717
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what I think. I actually think you

718
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: might be the first person to whom I could ever

719
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: say the clowns are keeping you sane? Could I wouldn't be?

720
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I really, I really mean this, Brian, I wouldn't touch

721
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: a single variable of your life, like you're you're living

722
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: a solved Rubic's cube right now. And part of that

723
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: solved Rubik's clute cube involves having one hundred clowns in

724
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: your bathroom, and so don't touch anything. Just don't, don't.

725
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: Just keep on the wall what you just said, I've

726
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: got okay, So right now on the wall, we've got

727
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: one clown that says, I know if you wash your

728
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: I didn't write these either, I know if you washed

729
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: your hands or not. That's one clown who hold on

730
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: the other one says who wrote them? My friend Gabe.

731
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you were gonna be like they wrote

732
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: them themselves during the night.

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. Uh yeah. One of them says

734
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: uh or the second one says, I stay busting and gushing.

735
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: And then the third one's facing you like as a

736
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: toilet while you're taking a piss, and it says, maybe

737
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: it is small, and.

738
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: Hey, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that, Briant.

739
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Is there anything you want to say to the people

740
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go?

741
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

742
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: I love you.

743
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: That's really sweet of you to say, Brian. Don't don't

744
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: don't change anything about your life. You're living exactly perfectly. Okay,

745
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: thank you, Lyle, Bye, Brian.

746
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I'll see you soon, see a baby, see you.

747
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: Well.

748
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Hi?

749
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: Who is this?

750
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 2: Uh? What's your name?

751
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: My name is Timmy? What's yours? Whoos list?

752
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Uh? My name is Lyle?

753
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: Oh, this is Lyle the Gecko?

754
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Well, Lyle the Gecko? What's up? Timmy? Timmy Turner? Timmy

755
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: was an average kid? What a sad first line of

756
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: a song? Timmy was an average kid that no one

757
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: could understand. It's crazy, isn't that?

758
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: Like?

759
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: That's like a contradiction, being like, how can how can

760
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: you be both an average person but also be someone

761
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: that no one can understand? You know what I mean?

762
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I get it?

763
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, how.

764
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

765
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: But what do you? How do you get it? Because

766
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: it's it's directly competent because if if somebody is really average,

767
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: you would think like their average that means that they

768
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: have so much in common with ever they experience, the

769
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: average person's experience, and thus they would be easy to understand.

770
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: But how in this situation you're both easy. You're both

771
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: difficult to understand and average, which doesn't make sense. Timmy,

772
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: what's up? How's life you doing, what's up? What's going

773
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: on my life?

774
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: So my life is doing great. Actually now up until

775
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: you know, up until very recently started this year, I

776
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 5: was massively suicidal, but I had ketamine therapy and therapy

777
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 5: doing just great.

778
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: Oh okay, slow, slow your role real quick. So you're

779
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: doing you did ketamine. I had a buddy of mine

780
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: do do ketamine therapy, and he told me it was

781
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: like like life changing, like restored his will to live

782
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: type of shit. And I thought that was incredible because

783
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: I've never done. I've like I've kind of pussy footed, uh,

784
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: you know back when I was in college in the

785
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: universe of like antidepressants, but I haven't dove back into

786
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: anything like that recently. Tell me about your ketemine therapy experience.

787
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: Sure, so, just a little bit history on me.

788
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: I had.

789
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: I had major an undiagnosed major depressive disorder from basically

790
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: from high school onward. When I got onto college, I

791
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: became massively depressed suicidal, in fact, remained that way for

792
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: about six years. Tried all kinds of antidepressants, exceeded the

793
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 5: FDA recommended outpatient DOSAH john one by like thirty three

794
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: percent something like that. So, you know, I've been through

795
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: the ringer and therapists were useless. I had taken multiple

796
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 5: you know, had experimented with drugs, taken multiple psychedelic drugs, dmt, LSD,

797
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 5: you name it. I mean I was like, oh yeah,

798
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: life is cool, but didn't really help me then, I,

799
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 5: you know, just recently was try. My parents found ketymine

800
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 5: therapy for me, and that did the trick. I'm no

801
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: longer suicidal at all. I am no longer I no

802
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 5: longer considerent. I do still take a daily antidepressant en I

803
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: get that out there, but it really only mildly helped.

804
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: I was very and a bit anxious. I now no

805
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: longer consider myself either one of those things.

806
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Wow, that's fascinating. Tell So here's what I want to know.

807
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: Watch my my my main curiosity. I'll get to that.

808
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: But what what what did you actually do? How long

809
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: did you do the treatment for? Well? What was it like?

810
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: Right?

811
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 5: So initially, so the initial treatment was across two weeks,

812
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: six treatments. It was intravenous ketamine therapy. So you go

813
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 5: into their office, it's a you know, impatient. They have

814
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: medical professionals there to make sure you know, you don't die.

815
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 5: They get you hooked up to all these different vitals

816
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: and then they say, okay, we're going to stick a

817
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 5: needle in you and then you know, an IV drip

818
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: and basically for forty minutes you're given intravenous ketamine. Uh

819
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 5: you know about a dosage per weight, you know, and

820
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: they try and they would generally would bring it up

821
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 5: if they thought, you know, you benefit from it. And

822
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 5: you kind of trip for forty minutes. Then you have

823
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: about twenty minutes of kind of cool down basically just

824
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: kind of you know, being less nauxious to give the

825
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: anti nausea drugs two. Then you're out in like an

826
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: hour and a half, less than two hours. You can't

827
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 5: drive yourself, you know, there and back because you know

828
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: you're all loopy after. But so that initial treatment I

829
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: think really changed my life for me. Now, the effects

830
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: of a kenemy are you know, like antidepressants, they're transient, so

831
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: the effects were off after some time. I currently get

832
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 5: boosters every eight weeks, but I've never had any depressive

833
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 5: like major depressive symptoms in the meantime.

834
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: So sele slow down real quick. So you did this

835
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: one intravenous h session, and that was it. Did you

836
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: do any other intervenous sessions?

837
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

838
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 5: I started with six across two weeks.

839
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Six across six across the course of two weeks or

840
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: two weeks six and then two weeks and then wow,

841
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: six across across of two weeks. That's extensive.

842
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah it was.

843
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: It was great though.

844
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: I had one bad trip, but I recovered from it

845
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: on the next one, So.

846
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: So it did. It did six, It did six across

847
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: two weeks, and then uh, a booster every eight weeks

848
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: after that.

849
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: Yes, and you still take a day and I get depressed.

850
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: Though, and uh, how long is there? Is it a

851
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: thing where it's like six across two weeks and then

852
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: you're done or do you go back?

853
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: Uh?

854
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: So you could be done after Some people do it

855
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 5: six across two weeks and they're and you know, Kenemy

856
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: doesn't work for everybody, but some people they take it

857
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 5: and they're done after their first successions.

858
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

859
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 5: Some people do finish.

860
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

861
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: Now for me, I had the you know, basically honestly

862
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 5: the resources continue to do it, and you know, I

863
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: enjoy drugs, so I keep on. I like doing it

864
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: and helps me help some mentally, but so you know,

865
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of downsides to wh and I

866
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: could talk.

867
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: So let me get let me, let me, let me

868
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: get to here's my main curios, here's what I really

869
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: want to know, and here's kind of like it feeds

870
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: into a battle that I have, uh, in terms of

871
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: a battle of like what contributes to a human beings

872
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: happiness and how much of that is internal versus external?

873
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: So tell me, having found a new lease on life

874
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: in your in this change in your brain chemistry, what

875
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: sort of external changes have you been able to make

876
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: to to your external life as a results.

877
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: Sure, that's a great question. So external changes are made

878
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: as a result of my ketamine usage. So because I'm

879
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: no longer depressed, and now I've realized that I really

880
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: wasn't enjoying my job as an engineer. I have a

881
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: degree mechanical engineering. I realized I was making me miserable.

882
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: And now I'm going back to school to become a

883
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 5: high school mass teacher.

884
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Cool, very cool, And you feel as though ketamine helped

885
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: you make that decision or come to that conclusion.

886
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps me view It allowed me to view

887
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 5: my life in a much more detached way. In the

888
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 5: association is one of the symptoms of ketamine. And it's like, oh,

889
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 5: you know, sort of things in life happen to you

890
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: and you react to them a certain way and allows

891
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: me to have a new perspective on life where oh,

892
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 5: you know, bad weather or not bad climate. You know,

893
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 5: sometimes it rains when I get all wet, but I

894
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 5: know I'll be war and dry again. But the differences

895
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: no longer have the permanent clouds over my head, like

896
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 5: you or that never seemed to part?

897
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: You know? And what other external changes? What about relationships?

898
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Things like that.

899
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 5: I have made an effort to make more friends. I

900
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: definitely believe that when I was at my lowest, I

901
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: didn't have any friends. Now I have friends and a

902
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 5: support network, and that really helps too.

903
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: Has it has it helped you be better in your

904
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: existing relationships or find new ones?

905
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: I would say it has helped. I don't know if

906
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 5: i'd say it helped me find new ones. I say

907
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: it's gotten me more proactive and trying to make myself

908
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: more available to meet new people.

909
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Uh.

910
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: But I'd say my relationship is definitely healthier with my

911
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 5: whole family because it used to be several times a

912
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 5: week i'd call my mom or my dad and say, hey,

913
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 5: I want to kill myself. I think about this all

914
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: the time every day helped me more or less. And

915
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 5: you know they can't do anything because you know, several

916
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 5: states away. And now we actually get to talk about

917
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: fun stuff because you're not constantly worried. All am I

918
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: gonna offer myself?

919
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: It's cool. That's cool, man. What a crazy fucking time

920
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: we live in. I wonder, I do, I really do wonder,

921
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: like what the statistics are on like depression and anxiety,

922
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: like one hundred years ago, like because I don't know,

923
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: back then, it was like everyone had everyone just worked

924
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: out in I'm so stupid. Everyone like worked in fields

925
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: and shit and fucking factories, and it's like when you're

926
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: assembling bottles of tooth paste, like I don't do you

927
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: even have time to be depressed or or are you

928
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: more depressed? I don't know. But where you live at

929
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: a crazy time, where you can fucking where you can

930
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: fucking take some ketamine and make your life better. But

931
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: by the way, which I'm I guess I'm a fan of.

932
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we we use a lot of modern medicine

933
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: to make our physical bodies and minds better. So you know,

934
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: go crazy, take all the take, take all the cocaine

935
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 2: and ketamine you want.

936
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: Oh maybe that's that's careful though, because cocaine and ketamine

937
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: are not the same.

938
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: I was, Timmy, Timmy, I was, I was, I was joking.

939
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: I was joking.

940
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: No, fine, but people at home, ke ket can be addictive.

941
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 5: Don't source it yourself and do it yourself, because it's

942
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 5: what killed Matthew Perry. So be careful out there. Don't

943
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: be like, oh I should go out and do what's academy. No,

944
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 5: it's addictive and it can kill me.

945
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: Oh yes, h yeah you know what. Yes yet, No, Timmy,

946
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: you're right, uh fucking yes. A disclaimer for the folks

947
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: at home. Timmy is talking about uh medically induced ketamine therapy.

948
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: He didn't buy it from a guy in an alleyway,

949
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 2: and now he's cured. So, uh, if you're gonna do this, ship,

950
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: if you're if you listen to this call and you're like,

951
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: oh fuck yeah, because my brother was telling about ketamine

952
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: therapy and I was like, oh fuck, I should give

953
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: that a try. So if you if you hear this

954
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh fuck, I should give that a try,

955
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: don't uh don't don't text a guy on WhatsApp about it.

956
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: If called call a call a fucking doctor. What's your

957
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: well before we go, Timmy, what's uh? What's your dream?

958
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: What's next? What are you gonna achieve with your life

959
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: now that you don't want to kill yourself?

960
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: Right?

961
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: So?

962
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: My, uh my, more, my most realistic dream is that

963
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and be high school math teacher.

964
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: Want to for the next thirty forty years. There's some

965
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: other spice of your stuff we want.

966
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: To that though, spicier, So what kind of I mean

967
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: you by the way, you by the way, by the way,

968
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: that was quite a bait that you just pulled right there.

969
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: There's some spicier stuff, but we don't have to get

970
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: into it, right.

971
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's it's more or less political. I'm very

972
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: upset with the current political network, and I'm like, oh,

973
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: I want to go out and try.

974
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: To fix that.

975
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: But I don't know if you're show needs to dive

976
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 5: into the political stuff. But I'm very passionate. So you

977
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: might be hearing more from me and about me in

978
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 5: my ten years, but we'll see.

979
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: That'd be so crazy if you were the president in

980
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: ten years and I and then this, this phone call

981
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: makes its way around the internet and it's just me

982
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: in the video version of this. I'm shirtless. So I

983
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: hope you become president so that this clip can go

984
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: viral and everyone can I guess see what my shoulders

985
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: look like, Timmy's anything else? I say to the people

986
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: of oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

987
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: No, sorry, yeah, the people at home be kind to you.

988
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: Get I didn't pop into the stream. But and there

989
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: are some people in my life. You've been having some

990
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: you know, difficulties right now with self worth, and I

991
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: just want to make sure that you get We're very

992
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: aware that you know, you had a positive impact on

993
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 5: many different people, and no matter if anyone ever says

994
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 5: anything mean to you or about you, you should definitely

995
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 5: take that with a grain of folk because you're going

996
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 5: to gonna focus on the next lot more than the positive.

997
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 5: So you realize how much you've helped me and other people.

998
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, Timmy. That's really really really nice of you

999
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: to say. I'm gonna I'm going to try to take

1000
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: that into account and and uh and uh not not

1001
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: hate myself. That is very very excited, tim I appreciate

1002
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate you man.

1003
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, if you hate yourself, you're in

1004
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: a small company, because I don't think a lot of

1005
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: people hate you.

1006
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: Thanks man, So thanks man, thank you, thank you very much, Timmy, Timmy. Bye,

1007
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: congratulations man, uh, congratulations on a new lease on life.

1008
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: I know, uh, there's a lot of people out there

1009
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: who are like, oh God, is this it is this life?

1010
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: If this is life, then I don't know.

1011
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

1012
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: So it's it's glad to hear a story from somebody

1013
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: who felt that way and now seems seems to be

1014
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: doing pretty good. So I'm I'm proud of you, Timmy.

1015
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1016
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 5: If you can't get Kennmy, get friends, They're almost If you.

1017
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: Can't get Kennymy and get friends, I like that. Take

1018
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: care of Timmy YouTube.

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 5: Thanks for the call.

1020
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Good bye. Hello.

1021
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up is this?

1022
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: Style?

1023
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is this?

1024
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 6: Holy shit?

1025
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: My name is Travis.

1026
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: Well, Travis, what's going on? How can I get you today?

1027
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Hour's life?

1028
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 3: Well?

1029
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 6: Life is pretty great?

1030
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: I think.

1031
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: Holy fuck, I'm so much more nervous than I expected.

1032
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: Don't be If you saw the where I'm recording this

1033
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: right now, you would actually think that I am on

1034
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: the run from the law. So this is a lot

1035
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: of pressure stream for a little bit.

1036
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 6: I popped in the stream for a little bit at first,

1037
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 6: and I saw you were half naked there.

1038
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: I am. I am half naked, the top half, the

1039
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: top half. So you texted me something I thought was interesting.

1040
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: You said that this podcast helped you join the Pokemon

1041
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: card community. How the fuck did that happen? What does

1042
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: that mean?

1043
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 6: I recently moved out of my house, well out of

1044
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: my parents' house, into a pretty well, pretty big city,

1045
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 6: and I found myself in the same problem that a

1046
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 6: lot of people on the podcast are, which is how

1047
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 6: to fuck do I make friends? And I kind of

1048
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 6: was trying to think of all the hobbies and all

1049
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 6: the things I like, and something I'm really into right

1050
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 6: now is Pokemon cards. So I went on to Facebook

1051
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 6: group and I found a community that hosts markets once

1052
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 6: a month, and yeah, so now once a month or

1053
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 6: now twice actually, I head out there and trade and

1054
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 6: sell and buy Pokemon cards and I made quite a

1055
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 6: few buddies.

1056
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: Ah ah ah, that's fucking awesome. That's so sick, dude.

1057
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 6: I hear I hear a lot of people.

1058
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1059
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 6: Saying it a lot on the podcast, because I've been

1060
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 6: been listening binge listening to them at work, and yeah,

1061
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: I was like, fuck, I gotta do something about this.

1062
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 6: I can't just sit at home play video games and

1063
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 6: wonder why I'm not why I'm not going out, or

1064
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 6: where's all the people at BRO.

1065
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: I love that. I think that's awesome. I think that

1066
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: because that's what you need, is like uh, is to

1067
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: be a part of some kind of community of people,

1068
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: some ship, and it could be anything.

1069
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: Right.

1070
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's that's what you've been repeating right there.

1071
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 6: If there's not already a community, then to create one.

1072
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 6: And I thought about that too, but I guess that's

1073
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 6: a much larger step to build something.

1074
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I want you host, watch, host tournaments.

1075
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 6: So I don't even play the game. Funny enough, I

1076
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 6: never even tried. I only like them for the collectible

1077
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 6: side of it, you know what I mean?

1078
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Well, I mean you could host uh,

1079
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't know galleries. I guess, well there's this.

1080
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 6: There's this one guy that now they pretty much all

1081
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 6: know me pretty good now, and he holds like monthly

1082
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: markets where it's just like a bunch of people getting

1083
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 6: together and like selling, buying, trading, whatever, and then they

1084
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 6: have other like meat. Yes, I guess, and it's it's

1085
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 6: it's fun.

1086
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: It's a fun time.

1087
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 6: It's a pretty good way to spend your Sunday afternoon.

1088
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually inspired hearing you say this. I got

1089
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: to go to more Melee tournaments.

1090
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: That was right. Yeah, I hear you.

1091
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 6: I hear you talking about it a lot. I really

1092
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 6: like Smash Ultimate, but I've never really played the older

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00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 6: versions of the game.

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Speaker 2: Oh you should, I mean Smash Ultimate is is? Uh

1095
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: is for pussies.

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Speaker 6: I also, like a few years back, I really wanted

1097
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 6: to get into tournaments, but like I was not in

1098
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 6: my head, I wasn't good enough, I guess, So I

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00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 6: never I never went out there.

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: No, you're oh, what good enough for for Ultimate or

1101
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: for for Melee?

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00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 6: No, for Ultimate back when it came out like a

1103
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 6: few years Yeah.

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00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: But ultimately you can go to an isn't You can

1105
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: go to an Ultimate tournament and just like fuck around,

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00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You can't. You can't go

1107
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 2: to a Melee tournament and fucking around because you'll just

1108
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: it won't be fun, you won't like.

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 6: Be able to play because what people playing Melee are

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00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 6: extremely serious about it.

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: Is that what you're trying to do well, because I

1112
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: mean I'm gonna get granular about Melee because this is

1113
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: my fucking podcast and I can do whatever I want

1114
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: and so well. In Melee, it's like there was literally

1115
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: like the skill gap between people who know how to

1116
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: play the game and people who don't is like huge,

1117
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: Like there's literally like a tech skill that if you

1118
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: don't know, oh, you just can't play the fucking game.

1119
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: And an ultimately there's not I mean there's still strategy

1120
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: and ship, but there's not as much have that hardcore

1121
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 2: uh you know what, you don't tech skill that Melee has. Yes,

1122
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: but you can I mean whatever you can go. You

1123
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: can show up, you can jump around as curb, but

1124
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 2: you can have a good time.

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: Well I'm happy to hear that you you made some friends. Bro,

1127
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: this is great, This is so cool. I'm inspired by this.

1128
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: I gotta take my own advice. I gotta run out.

1129
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: I got to do something.

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 6: Who knows And there's there's a bunch of other things

1131
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 6: that I want to do that like not only you,

1132
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: but people on this on this podcast inspired me to

1133
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: like like I want to keep I want to start

1134
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 6: to play piano again because I was taking lessons when

1135
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, twelve thirteen or something

1136
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 6: like that, and I should really pick it up again.

1137
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: And I really want to go play badminton again because

1138
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 6: I had a good thing going where it was a

1139
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 6: bunch of tournaments and again you make a bunch of

1140
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 6: buddies and you know, it's a community. So that that

1141
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 6: that was also pretty cool. But after that kind of

1142
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 6: died down and never ended up doing it again. But

1143
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 6: now that I'm in the city, it's much easier. There's

1144
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 6: people everywhere willing to do anything.

1145
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: I guess, well, what's your name again, cowboy Travis?

1146
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 6: That's right, who you remembered?

1147
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: Who's Who's your favorite Pokemon?

1148
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 6: My favorite Pokemon? I really like Noyburn. You are you

1149
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 6: into Pokemon at all? Like you know Pokemon?

1150
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: Dude? What the fuck is Noyburn?

1151
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: It's like a.

1152
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 6: Bat with the ears and it's like kind of detects

1153
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 6: noise or something. I think it's pretty cool.

1154
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: It's like a dragon bat.

1155
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: A dragon bat saying, when do.

1156
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 6: You expect Pikachu?

1157
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: I I guess, uh, I don't know. I mean the

1158
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: last time I looked into Pokemon, they're they were doing

1159
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: fucking uh like they were making chairs into Pokemon. Yeah,

1160
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: like chair chair Mond or they made they made a

1161
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: chandelier and do a Pokemon and I was like, all right, yes,

1162
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: a Pokemon.

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 6: CHANDELOUI is stick though, CHANDELOUI is stick.

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is. Travis. Anything

1165
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: else you want to say to the people of the

1166
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: computer before we go?

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think everybody you you also, and everybody listening.

1168
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 6: I think everybody should have a more more positive mindset

1169
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: when going out there and just you know, of everything,

1170
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 6: because there's I feel like people are just people sound

1171
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 6: sad and sound you know, you know what I mean.

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: You gotta you.

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 6: Gotta be be grateful, I guess for being alive. And

1174
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 6: I always tell myself that it could always be worse,

1175
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 6: And whenever I had a I had a ship day,

1176
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 6: I just tell myself, well, I could be in a

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 6: car crash right now, and I think it helps me

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00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: go through the day a little bit better.

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00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: Well, who's the therapy gecko today? Good luck, Travis, take

1180
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: care man? Yeah you doing Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.

1181
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,400
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1182
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,240
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1187
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,280
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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,960
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1189
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: ability to continue doing this podcast. So here's a clip

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01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,080
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Speaker 3: I was just at the end of my room, took

1192
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: a bottle of ambience to the face, decided to fade out.

1193
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I woke up stomach pumped, no idea

1194
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: where I was. Man. Three months of recovery turned into

1195
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: six months of recovery turned into a year, and every

1196
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: year around this time, I do something unexpected.

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01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: See it's very interesting to me because if I died

1198
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: and then I got like a second chance, I don't know,

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: I guess it's almost like you're living on like bonus mode.

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: It's exactly the new game Plus.

1201
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1202
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,000
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1203
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,240
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Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say. Goes on the line

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Speaker 2: ever goes

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Speaker 1: In the movie line.