1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. We've got Jack Smith hearings on 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill. Bring you some highlights of that. I'm not 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: expecting much to come of it, but it's causing fireworks 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: in our nation's capital sort of, so we will get 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: into it in a little bit. Trump on the Greenland deal, 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: very interesting stuff happening there. He's talking Golden Dome, mineral rights, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: and all kinds of goodies that he believes he has 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: lined up for US via Greenland and Trump speaking with 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Maria Bartoromo this morning. Some highlights from that. JD Vance 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: is in Toledo, Ohio. Gavin Newsom. We'll talk to our 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: friend Katie Zachariah, a California political and legal analyst, about Newsom. 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: He got a little bit of a wampwomp because they 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: canceled his DeVos speech at the last minute. He's saying 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: it's pressure from Trump World. We shall see more and 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: more on all of that in the meantime, my friends. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: The big big news today coming out of Yes you 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: guessed It, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minnesota. We have the following from 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Attorney General Pam Bondi this on Twitter or x minutes ago. 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: At my direction, FBI agents executed and arrested in Minnesota. 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: So far, we have arrested Nikima Levi Armstrong, who allegedly 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: played a key role in organizing the coordinated attack on 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota. We will share more 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: updates as they become available. Listen loud and clear all 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: caps now, Clay, we do not tolerate attacks on places 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: of worship. This, I think is what many of you 28 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: have been calling for. And this is it's a pretty 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: quick turnaround for DOJ, at least on this kind of 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: an arrest. I have to say they wanted to make 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: sure they get all this lined up, and this is 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: now I think the beginning. 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Of more arrests like this. 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: Although Clay, now there's gonna be a lot of rewriting 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: of history. 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: It was peaceful protest. We were just hanging out in 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: the church. We were asking for directions. You know, it 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: was no big deal. 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: Anti ice church protester organizer Levi Armstrong was on CNN 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: last night. This has cut one. Here's her claim. This 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: is pre arrest. By the way hit it. 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: We did not rush into that church. 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: We actually went and sat down and participated in the service, 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: and after their pastor. 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: Prayed, that is when I stood up and. 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: Asked him a question in response to his prayer, and 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: then and he responded to me. And then I proceeded 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: to ask him about Pastor David Easterwood and how is 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: it possible for him to serve as both the pastor 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: and the. 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: Director of ICE from Minnesota. 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: And instead of responding to me, as soon as he 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: said the name David Easterwood, the pastor says. 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: Shame, shame. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: And that is when I let us enchants justice for 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: Renee Good and he ends up, don't shoot. So I 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: want to clarify that we didn't Russian, we didn't bust in. 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: Okay Clay, Now it's the big meme. 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Pastor was the one who caused the problem in his church, 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: by the way, trying to celebrate with his congregants and 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: enjoy their connection with God. These lunatics show up once again, 62 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: whether it's be Alum with the cops or it's just 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: the leftist agitators with ICE their main enemy. 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Video footage, video footage. We saw. 65 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: We've all seen what happened, you know, And yes, so 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: credit to the Department of Justice for getting these arrests 67 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 6: done in Minneapolis. I've actually seen, which I think speaks 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: to even Democrats being like, yeah, this is probably inappropriate. 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 6: I've actually seen so far a fairly muted response from 70 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 6: Democrats in terms of being opposed to these arrests going on. 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure that there's going to be the 72 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 6: usual suspects lining up, but it doesn't feel to me 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 6: like this is some sort of cross the rubicon moment 74 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: for them. And you knew that these activists were aware 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 6: that they had potentially created an issue, because they very 76 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: rapidly started trying to recharacterize what actually happened, even though 77 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 6: we could all see it on video ourselves. And for 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 6: those of you out there that are not familiar with 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 6: the Face Act, for instance, it was actually designed to 80 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 6: stop If you're wondering where did this law having to 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 6: do with protecting church services come from, you know what 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 6: it was actually designed to do for church's buck. It 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 6: was designed to stop white supremacists. This is their thesis 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 6: when they asked it. It was designed to stop white supremacists, 85 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 6: they said, from interrupting black churches. So ah, you've got 86 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: to be careful sometimes with the laws that you put 87 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: on the books, because the precedent that is applied for 88 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 6: them can shift as the world changes. Because Democrats today 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 6: Buck we all know, would never pass a law that 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 6: prohibited protests from taking place in churches. In fact, they 91 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 6: would probably pass a law saying we need more protests 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 6: inside of churches if you had to ask them to 93 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 6: make a choice. Now, but this law is on the books, 94 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: and Attorney General Pambondi traveled to Minneapolis, and this is 95 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 6: what we SOMEONHAET talked about yesterday. It's one thing to say, 96 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 6: arrest people, but you have to tangibly connect the arrest 97 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 6: to a crime and the work that has been done here. 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 6: I think it's kind of an open and shut case. 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 6: Pretty clearly demonstrates that these individuals broke the law, and 100 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 6: now we'll see whether a jury is willing to convict 101 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 6: them in Minneapolis, which I think is an entire iarly 102 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 6: different process. But these warrants, these arrests were signed off 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 6: on probable cause, based on the evidence, and it's pretty significant. 104 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 6: I think that we've already seen a result. I think 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 6: Pam Bondi deserves credit. I think the Minnesota lawyers deserve 106 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 6: credit and the Department of Justice overall. 107 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Now here's jd Vance, by the way, speaking to this 108 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: was this morning. He's in Ohio, but he was talking 109 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: about the situation in Minneapolis and just how he's making 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: the point Clay that we've been hammering here for days, 111 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: which is this could all be made so much easier. 112 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: This could be on, this could be unnecessary. It is 113 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: necessary because of the decisions of Democrats have made. But 114 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: if they were willing to just give the slightest assistance 115 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: to federal law enforcement on these issues, by just allowing 116 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: access into their jails, for example, by just giving a 117 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: heads up, a phone call, an email. Hey you know 118 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: that in a three time violent felon that suppose that 119 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: has an order of deportation, we got them. We just 120 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: picked them up on something. They could do that and 121 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: this wouldn't be necessary. They refuse. Here's JdE This is 122 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: cut seventeen, and he is speaking the truth about what's 123 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: really going on here. 124 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 7: I'm headed from here to many Apps where we're going 125 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 7: to talk with some of our isations, talk with local 126 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 7: officials about how we can turn down the chaos. And 127 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 7: my simple piece of advice to them is going to 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 7: be Look, if you want to turn down the chaos 129 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 7: in Minneapolis, stop fighting immigration enforcement, and except that we 130 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 7: have to have a border in this country, it's. 131 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: Not that hard. 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 7: If you look all across our country, what's happened in 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 7: Minneapolis is happening almost nowhere else in the United States 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 7: of America. And that's because whether it's in Texas or Tennessee, 135 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 7: it's in red states, it's in blue cities. Even within 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 7: our country, most people are cooperating with the simple principle 137 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 7: that we ought to be able to enforce our immigration 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 7: laws and get illegal criminals the hell out of the 139 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 7: United States of America. It's really not that complim. 140 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: I think it's very important that he puts it into 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: that context because it's a very big country. People in Minneapolis, 142 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: including the mayor and the governor and the attorney general 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: of the state of Minnesota, they have decided the law 144 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: does not count in their city. They've decided they're going 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: to stop people from enforcing the law. They don't have 146 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: that right. They're wrong, and the rest of the country 147 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: isn't going through this. The people are saying, oh, that's. 148 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 8: The thuggish tactics, and it's so all this stuff the 149 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 8: checkpoints and all of this. Do they have those in Nashville? 150 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 8: Like are their checkpoints in Franklin? I mean, you know, 151 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 8: you sit here, I'm seeing none of this in Miami 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 8: because they don't have the same processes of obstruction in place. Yeah, 153 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 8: they've made they're making this happen, is the point. 154 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: No. 155 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 6: I think that's really important because if you're in a 156 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 6: state like you are Florida or a state like I 157 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 6: am Tennessee, by and large, there is not this obstruction 158 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 6: constantly that is occurring of ICE's ability to do their jobs. 159 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 6: And I would say this is one thing you could 160 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 6: look at, and maybe Pambondi and her team are looking 161 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 6: at it in Minneapolis and in Minnesota writ large. Right now, 162 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 6: if there is tangible evidence of Mayor Fry saying in 163 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 6: some way or Tim Walls providing instruction in some way 164 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 6: to state or city employees to obstruct ICE's ability to 165 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 6: do their jobs, potentially you could have an obstruction charge 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: that could be brought against Mayor Fry or Governor Walls. 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 6: This to me is one of the great questions that 168 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 6: is out there in general, which is to what extent 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 6: is their direct evidence of behavior that would constitute a 170 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 6: crime on behalf of these individuals who are obstructing ice. 171 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: In particular, as I said yesterday, I still think it's 172 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 6: one of the great unexamined aspects of the entirety of 173 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 6: the immigration era. How in the world have we allowed 174 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 6: the possibility of a sanctuary city to exist at all? 175 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 6: Federal laws supreme, So when the President of the United 176 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 6: States on immigration related issues, when the President of the 177 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 6: United States says, the law of the land is this 178 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 6: on immigration, it is undisputedly in his province of authority. 179 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: And Buck, do you remember how frustrating this was. 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 6: We talked about it a lot when Biden had the 181 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 6: open borders and Governor Greg Abbott in Texas and so 182 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 6: many other individuals in Texas said we've got to have 183 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: the power to control ingress and egress in our state, 184 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 6: and they kept getting slapped down by judges who said, well, 185 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 6: it's really more of a federal than a state issue 186 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: if that principle applies, which it does for Biden and 187 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 6: for Trump, sanctuary cities are not permissible under federal law, 188 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: and anyone who is allowing them to occur, in theory, 189 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 6: is violating federal law and their state and local laws 190 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: are covered by the supremacy clause, and so you could 191 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 6: bring charges in that aspect which would be up applicable 192 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: whether it's California, Minnesota, New York, anywhere in the country. 193 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: And this is where we got into the discussion yesterday. 194 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure we still have some talkbacks about it for 195 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: those who just want charges to be filed versus the hey, 196 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: let's know why we're bringing the charge approach to these things, 197 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: which I think is good because if you bring a 198 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: charge that is frivolous, especially in a place like Minnesota. 199 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: They're just going to show. 200 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna have lawyers show up in a court and 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: the judge is going to dismiss it. Guys, this notion 202 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: the process is the punishment. Let me tell you something 203 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: about this. If you're really being grasping and you're on 204 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: enemy territory politically, there really is no process. You're going 205 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: to show up the court and a judge is gonna say, yeah, 206 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: these are garbage, see you later. And then if you 207 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: try it again, you might get a judge who says, Okay, 208 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: you're doing something here. I might file, you might get 209 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: a contempt order. So it's not as simple, is just 210 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: prosecute them. That's not a thing. Okay, you have to 211 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: have some basis for it if you want, now bring 212 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: to clays point about this. Yesterday you get an indictment. Okay, 213 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Now there's a process. Now someone's got to go through 214 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: discovery and a trial and all these different things. But 215 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: just bringing a charge, bringing a charge, I mean, if 216 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: let's say we brought a charge against Don Now, Don 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: Lemon's a bad example in the sense that I think 218 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: he actually could be in trouble for the same reason 219 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: this organizer is. But you bring a charge against someone 220 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: like Don Lemon and he shows up with his high 221 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: priced lawyers, Guy's got millions of dollars, and he gets 222 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: a judge to slap away the charge, just throw it out. 223 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: So it's over what process do you think that is 224 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: other than Don Lemon walking out of the courthouse saying 225 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm a hero, I'm a martyr for you know Ice 226 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: and you know the or you know anti Ice and 227 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: all the illegals and everything else. So this is what 228 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: this is what we're trying to say. Yes, what Pam 229 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Bondi is doing is the right way. Here is the charge, 230 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: here's the evidence of violation, that's why we have arrested. 231 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: Now you have a reasonable chance of a judge seeing 232 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: this and at least allowing this to go to an 233 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: indictment phase instead of just it's gonna get now it 234 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: might get tossed out, but I mean, you're ensuring it's 235 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: gonna get tossed out if you're showing up with like, 236 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 2: we just arrested this person because we don't like. 237 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Them, which, by the way, we actually don't want that happening. 238 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: I understand that this is where there's a little bit 239 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: of you don't want to be in a country where 240 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: you just get arrested because people don't like you. I 241 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: know the other side has done this with Trump to 242 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: some extent, but it failed. It failed, and if you 243 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: want any more proof of that, you can see the 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: mug shot. But should you ever get a mugshot T shirt? 245 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: Was that you that got that. 246 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 6: Or I got enough mugshot T shirt? Autographed by President Trump? 247 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 6: It is in my house as a I mean, I 248 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 6: think that is an all timer, maybe the greatest mugshot's 249 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 6: ever been taken. 250 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: By the point here is, as far as I see 251 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: at Pamboni's making the right move. This arrest, this charging 252 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: of this organizer violation of law. It's there, it's real, 253 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: it's clear. Let's go. If you find out that buffoon 254 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Walls was doing something illegal, great, But we have to 255 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: find that there's a thing that we can we can 256 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: credibly say he was doing that's illegally. 257 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: He can arrest people. I don't know. I think I 258 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: think that's a pretty self evident truth. 259 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: All right, this is the month that many of us 260 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: cut back on expenses, because look, things got a little 261 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: crazy in December. 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Find it on the 283 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 9: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 284 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 6: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis Bock Sexton Show. 285 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Okay, we got a lot going on. 286 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 6: As has been the case for the last several weeks, 287 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: breaking news Minneapolis church protesters have been arrested, several of them. 288 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 6: There have been charges brought or attempted to be brought 289 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 6: against Don Lemon, among others. Their reports from CBS News 290 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 6: confirmed by The Day Wire that a judge refused to 291 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: sign the complaint allowing Don Lemon to be arrested. Jack 292 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 6: Smith has been testifying. All three news networks have been 293 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 6: covering his testimony. We will play some of it for you, 294 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: But again the Minneapolis News I think has taken precedence. 295 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 6: And maybe the most surprising thing to me about this 296 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 6: at all, Buck, is no one is out there really 297 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 6: defending these individuals who were arrested, In fact, the opposite, 298 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 6: and even Mayor Fry who weighed in and said this 299 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 6: is a completely inappropriate arrest. It's the first comment that 300 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 6: he has made at all about the protest inside of 301 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 6: the church. But it feels like there has been a 302 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: sort of code read ordered on behalf of Democrats to 303 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: throw this crew to the wolves and not defend them, 304 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: because I think they recognize the optics were so bad. 305 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 6: In fact, yesterday, whether we believe him or not, remember 306 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 6: Don Lemon said he hadn't even seen the video of 307 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 6: the protest from inside of Minneapolis, and when he was asked, 308 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom was at Davos about this incident. So it 309 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: feels like maybe the politics on this are so bad 310 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 6: that everybody is running from it. 311 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: And I'm stunned, frankly. 312 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 6: That there are no coverage on MSNBC of these arrests, 313 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: no coverage on CNN, because if you remember, Buck, remember 314 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 6: when that judge in Milwaukee got arrested for interfering with 315 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 6: the ice proceeding, and immediately it was everywhere and they said, 316 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 6: oh my goodness, this is fascism and Trump. And then 317 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: the video came out of the judge and everybody stopped 318 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 6: defending her, and she was later convicted and she's no 319 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 6: longer a judge. 320 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: I do think this. 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: Is maybe that where the video came out and Democrats 322 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: just said, this is such a bad look for us. 323 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 6: We're not even going to fight on this ground. Mayor 324 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 6: Fry has But I haven't seen anything of any significant 325 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 6: nature from any sort of outspoken national Democrats on it. 326 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they've recognized this is a very 327 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: tough one because, like I said, of the video and 328 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: the fact that there are specific laws, and do they 329 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: want to say that those laws shouldn't exist? You know, 330 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: this is the next level of it is, do we 331 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: want to be in a country where keep in mind, 332 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: if a church isn't protected, neither is a synagogue, Neither 333 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: is a mosque, Neither is a you know, a Hindu 334 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: tempolga go down the list. Any time you want to 335 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: get attention for yourself and your lunatic cause you can 336 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: interrupt a house of worship and cause a riot and 337 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: shout at everybody and ruin their religious service because you 338 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: feel like it. But by the way, a black church, 339 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: same thing. You know, if you're if you're in this, 340 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: if you're in the South, then you're in a black church. 341 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Should some maniac you know, uh, right wing, left wing 342 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, be able to just shout down everybody in 343 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: that black church and intimidate them. 344 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: Of course not. 345 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: So the law is actually a good law because we 346 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: don't want what these morons did. 347 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: Clay. 348 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: This was a huge tactical error on the part of 349 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: the street communists, and they're paying the price because the 350 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: Trump administration isn't playing games. 351 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 6: Third arrest in the last minute. Attorney General Pam Bondi 352 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: has said that a third individual is now in custody again. 353 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 6: Politico has reported that there are seven arrest, seven charges, 354 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 6: seven people charged, and that process is underway. We'll go 355 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 6: to some of your calls here in a moment, But 356 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 6: I did want to hit this too off the second 357 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 6: top of the second hour, because I don't think it's 358 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 6: going to be talked about very much, and I actually 359 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 6: think it is a tremendous accomplishment, one of the best 360 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 6: accomplishments so far of Trump two point zero. I'm reading 361 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: from Axios buck US murder rate hits lowest level since 362 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 6: night teen hundred. I want to repeat that because it 363 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 6: should be everywhere. Everybody should be talking about this. The 364 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 6: murder rate in Trump two point zero year one just 365 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 6: hit the lowest level since nineteen hundred. Murders fell twenty 366 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 6: one percent last year, UH, the biggest one year drop ever, 367 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: likely the lowest rate since the year nineteen hundred. Axios 368 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 6: data says the decline signals a complete reversal of the 369 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 6: COVID era crime wave. Here are a couple of data 370 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 6: points inside of this. Aggravated assaults fell by nine percent, 371 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 6: gun assaults and robbery down twenty two percent and twenty 372 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 6: three percent, respectively. 373 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: And in some cities. 374 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 6: Listen to this, Buck, Murders fell forty percent in Washington, DC. 375 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 6: Do you remember when they told us that Trump so 376 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 6: urging resources in Washington, d C Was going to have 377 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 6: no impact? Forty percent in DC and in Omaha, Nebraska. 378 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 6: Murder down forty one percent. In Denver and in general, 379 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 6: the national murder rate is down to four per one 380 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 6: hundred thousand people, the lowest level it has been at 381 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: since nineteen hundred. This is a big deal, is a 382 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 6: really big deal, and I think it's the sign of 383 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 6: Trump's endorsement of law and order, and it's having real 384 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 6: impact already. 385 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it's coming. 386 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: Minneapolis right now is the focus, as is Greenland and 387 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: the negotiations at Davos. But I think this White House 388 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: is probably going to have a press conference in the 389 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: days ahead where the first thing we hear from Caroline 390 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: Levitt is going to be all these stats that you 391 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: just shared. If they haven't done this already, maybe I've 392 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: missed some of this, but they should do that because 393 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: a few things. One, they deserve the administration deserves the 394 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: it for making a decision in the face of tremendous pushback. 395 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: And also, this really matters. 396 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: This isn't adjusting the marginal tax rate for a twelve 397 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: month period until we figure out what the next appropriations 398 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: bill is. This is saving people's lives, and so it's 399 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: important that everyone understands the old way of sorry, we 400 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: just have to have X one hundred number of murders 401 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: in this city or that city, because that's the way 402 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: it is. Should no longer apply. What's even more, what's 403 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: the word shocking, but maybe it shouldn't be shocking. 404 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: Is clay. 405 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: All the people that were opposed to this should now 406 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: be saying, Wow, murders are way down. Trump was right, 407 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: We should do more of this. But they won't because 408 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: they would rather I don't know how else you could 409 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: frame this. They would rather more people get shot and 410 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: killed in DC, in Memphis and all these different cities 411 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: we're talking about. They'd rather more people get shot and 412 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: killed because they don't have to see that and deal 413 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: with it if they don't live there, or they don't 414 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: live in one of the bad neighborhoods. That admit that 415 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: Trump was right and that he's saving lives. Think about that. 416 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: Imagine that's your moral calculation, because that's the calculation democrats 417 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: all across the country are making. 418 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 6: And buck this is just going to be one hundred 419 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 6: percent true based on the data. Do you know, as 420 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: we hit the lowest murder rate since nineteen hundred, do 421 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 6: you know what Donald Trump has done. He's actually proved 422 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: black lives matter because overwhelmingly the people whose lives were 423 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: saved were black. 424 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: Because you got to get that on a T shirt Clay. 425 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: We got to sell Clay Travis. Trump has proven black 426 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: lives matter. 427 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 6: No one has saved more black lives than Donald Trump. 428 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 6: I mean in the history of the presidency. I don't 429 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 6: know who was president back in nineteen hundred, but when 430 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 6: you look, I mean, in all seriousness, it's it's it's 431 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 6: unfortunate truth that the black murder rate, that is, people 432 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 6: who are black who are murdered, is I think it's 433 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 6: twenty x the white murder rate. I think that number 434 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: is correct. In other words, you are the victims, not perpetrator. 435 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: Shock right, it's I think it's it's ten x perpetrator, 436 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 6: twenty x victim rate, something like that. That's you're about 437 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 6: I think that's about right. Well we'll have a well, 438 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 6: we'll grock it. But I think you are twenty times 439 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 6: as likely to be murdered if you are black as 440 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 6: if you are white. So my point on that is 441 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 6: when murder rates come down, they overwhelmingly are leading to 442 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 6: fewer black murders because the numbers are statistically what they are. 443 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: So if you truly believe that black lives matter, and 444 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 6: you've been focused on it since George Floyd, no one 445 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: has done more to save black lives as a president 446 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 6: than President Trump has. Uh and and the reality is 447 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 6: what I what I love about this. In addition to 448 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 6: the fact that way more people are alive, which is 449 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 6: a good thing, the DC numbers buck. 450 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: We got lectured. 451 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 6: So many journals came out and they said they wagged 452 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 6: their fingers and they either said it's not actually that dangerous, 453 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 6: because that's one of the things. 454 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: They would say, Well, the National you're right about this. 455 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting, Clay, because remember we talked 456 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: about it. Journals who didn't live in d c RLL 457 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: DC's great. I went there on a school trip and 458 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: it was really nice. You know that they're super safe. 459 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, I went 460 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: to a cocktail party once in Georgetown and didn't get shot. 461 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: What a surprise. Uh. 462 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: The actual journals in DC, though, including some libs. You remember, 463 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: there were cracks. There were breaks in the ranks on 464 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: this where they were like, yeah, I know, it's really dangerous. 465 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: They were the ones who lived there. Some of them 466 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: started speaking up because they were sick of being worried 467 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 2: about getting robbed for their phone on their street corner 468 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: in nice neighborhoods, so that was real. 469 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: The numbers have plummeted. DC murders overwhelmingly saved black lives 470 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 6: in DC because almost everyone who dies of murder in 471 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 6: DC is black. I mean, that is what the data 472 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 6: actually reflects. Also, Buck this ties in what we're talking 473 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 6: about in Minneapolis. Do you think that just maybe letting 474 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 6: ice go arrest violent criminals in the United States and 475 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: put people on notice that they're coming for them might 476 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 6: also have impacted in a significant way the overall murder 477 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 6: rate that. 478 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: We saw happen in this country. 479 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: I just think if if you just objectively step back 480 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 6: and just said, hey, let's look at what the data 481 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 6: actually reflects, this is where I think President Trump is correct. 482 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 6: He's not getting credit for having a transformative first year 483 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 6: of his presidency when it comes to border security, when 484 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 6: it comes to actual murder rates nationwide, when. 485 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: It comes to Locke looking bad guys up. 486 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 6: Think about this. No one alive listening to us today. 487 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 6: This is pretty incredible. No one alive listening to us 488 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 6: today has ever lived in a United States safer than 489 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 6: last year in the United States. That's a pretty remarkable 490 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 6: stat unless you were Unless you're I don't think anybody's 491 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five years old or one hundred 492 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 6: and twenty six years old right now. Then none of 493 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 6: us have ever been alive in a United States that 494 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 6: was safer than President Trump's first year in twenty twenty five. 495 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: And it's a remarkable turnaround since twenty twenty when the 496 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 6: murder rate skyrocketed, that we now have gone to a 497 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 6: level of safety that no one living today has ever 498 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 6: seen before. You know what, I might call that book 499 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 6: making America Great Again. In fact, it's not America safe again, 500 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 6: for sure, making America safer than it's ever been before. 501 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 6: We're not even going back to the word again. We're 502 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: going to a new standard of excellence when it comes 503 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 6: to safety in the country. This should be the number 504 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: one story everywhere in the nation right now, and I 505 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 6: bet many of you will not hear it, but for 506 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 6: having heard us talk about it, and we'll take some 507 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 6: of your calls. We got loaded lines, by the way, 508 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 6: everybody wants to weigh in. We'll take your calls and 509 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: we come back. Stick with us if you would, and 510 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 6: we'll continue to update you on that Minneapolis situation. 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Pricepicks dot Com Code Clay. 529 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 9: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you 530 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 9: unite us. 531 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: All each day. 532 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 9: Spend time with Clay and find them on the free 533 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 9: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 534 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 6: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Politico has 535 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 6: now updated their story to say Don Lemon was not charged. 536 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: We told you. 537 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 6: CBS News reported and Daily Wire confirmed that a judge 538 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: had refused to sign off on the complaint to allow. 539 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Don Lemon to be arrested. 540 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: To be arrested, but Attorney General Pambondy just posted the 541 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: last few minutes that a man named William Kelly had 542 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 6: been arrested. He is the third individual arrested for going 543 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: into this church. And I believe we have the audio. 544 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: I'm just trying to make sure that I get the 545 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 6: number right here. Here is cut thirty six, one of 546 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 6: the Minnesota church protesters. Yesterday. He taunted Attorney General Pambondi 547 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 6: and dared her to come arrest him thirty six. 548 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 10: So you know, Pambondy, you want to come and arrest me, 549 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 10: you want to come and get me charges. 550 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: So be it. 551 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 10: And for all the people getting you know, giving me 552 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 10: death threats, threatening my life, kill me, go ahead, kill me, 553 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 10: because you know what as Fred Hampton said, you can 554 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 10: kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill. 555 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: The revolution. 556 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: All right, I think you want to be saying about 557 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 6: the ag right now. There's a couple of other clips 558 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 6: of him taunting, taunting, Pambondy. I don't think that went 559 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 6: very well for him. Bobby Charles running for governor in Maine. 560 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 6: He's been waiting a while to come on with us. 561 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 562 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: And I think you have a big legal background, if 563 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 6: I remember from our last conversation. Have you heard of 564 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 6: a judge like in Minneapolis, as reported by CBS and 565 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 6: Daily Wire, refusing to sign off on a complaint for 566 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 6: charges to be brought. Do you have you experienced that 567 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 6: in your career? 568 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 11: Actually no, I never have. I you know, politics has 569 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 11: infused itself into the judiciary now in ways that it 570 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 11: never was before. And I was a litigator in New 571 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 11: York and in Maine and in you know, DC, and 572 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 11: I clerked on the Ninth Circuit Us Court Appeals. I 573 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 11: never saw a judge not sign off on a valid complaint, 574 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 11: and particularly complaint from the Attorney General of the United States. 575 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 11: I just, you know, to be honest, I called in 576 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 11: with just two simple points and I just leave your 577 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 11: listenership with him, and I don't want to take up 578 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 11: your line. In addition to the fact that we are 579 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 11: up by double digits and state and very likely to 580 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 11: become the next governor, the first point is that we 581 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 11: are living Maine is the next Minnesota. A spoiler alert, 582 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 11: We are living in a state here in Maine where 583 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 11: the governor, the Secretary of State, and others, including down 584 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 11: to the mayor level, are provoking, in my opinion, violence. 585 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 11: Our Secretary of State blocked the issuance of undercover license 586 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 11: plates for ICE last week. She directed that anybody who 587 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 11: sees ICE that is a government employee needs to let 588 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 11: her know, presumably so if you stalk, and then she 589 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 11: can tell the so called nonprofits that are involved in 590 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 11: fraud and illegal immigration up here that they can harbor 591 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 11: those people get them out of the way. And the 592 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 11: thirche thing she did is she directed our DMV employees, 593 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 11: even though there's a federal statute saying that they should 594 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 11: and can report illegal aliens to ICE, that they not 595 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 11: do so. So you know, the second big thing I'm 596 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 11: just going to say, and it's very simple, is we're 597 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 11: living in an environment nationwide Minneapolis happens to be the 598 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 11: current flash point. It may well be that Lewiston, Maine 599 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 11: or Portland, Maine become the next flash point, in which 600 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 11: you have leftist groups and leftist officials who are who 601 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 11: are literally in the business of trying to incite without 602 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 11: appearing that they're inciting. And I will tell you that 603 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 11: as a former litigator and as a former federal investigator, 604 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 11: I did the Waco hearings. I was one of newt 605 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 11: Gingrich's top investigators for five years. We have a statute, 606 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 11: it's an obstruction statute eighteen Usc. Fifteen oh one, fifteen 607 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 11: oh five, fifteen ten, which is interference with the criminal 608 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 11: investigations that I think were at the moment where the 609 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 11: federal government should look at these not just private individuals 610 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 11: and not just these nonprofits pushing illegal aliens, but look 611 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 11: at people like the Secretary of State Maine, who incidentally 612 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 11: is leading on the left to become the governor. And 613 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 11: I think she hasn't got a chance. But on the 614 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 11: other hand, the machine is strong here. She is provoking 615 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 11: people in such a way that I think it violates 616 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 11: eighteen Usc. Fifteen ten. And I think you know, at 617 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 11: a certain point you have to at least alert people 618 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 11: that if you are obstructing justice intentionally out there trying 619 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 11: to rile people up, that there are federal consequences. 620 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the call. I love this. 621 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: How can people who are in Maine right now listening 622 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 6: to you and saying, boy, that sounds good, what can 623 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 6: they do to help? 624 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 11: Well, we are, I mean, we are just charging ahead. 625 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 11: This campaign has gone vertical. It's the first time since 626 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 11: nineteen sixty two that it looks like we could even 627 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 11: get a majority rather than a plurality victory and win 628 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 11: the House and Senate, so this state could turn red. 629 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 11: I encourage them all go to bobbyfour Maine dot com. 630 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 11: Every dollar counts. I'm the Jimmy Stewart guy in this, 631 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 11: not the mister Potter. So every dollar counts. And again 632 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 11: it's just bobbyfmaine dot com. 633 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, good luck. We want you to continue 634 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: to fight the good fight up there. Larry and o'kalla 635 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 6: he's not happy. Okayala is a great place in Florida. 636 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 6: You spend any time there, Buck, I've never been to o'calla. 637 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 6: It's a good spot. What do you got for us? 638 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Larry Man? Is great? 639 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: Good weather getting a little too big. But you know, 640 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 5: everywhere everywhere is I guess especially in Florida. Man, I 641 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 5: think people are missing why we voted for Donald Trump 642 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 5: the first time. In the first place. We had been 643 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: lied to over and over about repealing Obamacare. We're gonna 644 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 5: shrink the size of government, We're gonna reduce spending. The 645 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: Republicans lied to us and lied to us and lied 646 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 5: to us. And then they give us, you know, Ted Cruz, 647 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 5: they gave us Marco Rubio. They gave us all these 648 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 5: other candidates that we you know that that we were 649 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: gonna pick from that, our conservatives, and we said no, 650 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 5: and we said, the only way that we can stick 651 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 5: our finger in the eye of the Republican Party is 652 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 5: to vote for Donald Trump, the guy who acted like 653 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 5: a Democrat, but it was a closetive conservative, which was okay. 654 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you this. I got you, Larry. 655 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: You're not happy with Trump first year. 656 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 5: Uh no, not at all, not even a little bit. 657 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 5: Now you have to take out all the things about 658 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 5: the border and all this kind of stuff. Those are 659 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 5: easy problems that we. 660 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 6: Have, Hilarry, hold on, hold on, Larry, let me pause 661 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 6: you here for a sec I would suggest shutting down 662 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 6: the border and making it the most secure it's ever 663 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 6: been in the history of our country. And also, if 664 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 6: you were listening earlier, having the lowest murder rate in 665 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 6: the country since nineteen hundred, record high stock prices, I 666 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 6: would suggest those are pretty good accomplishments in general, and 667 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: not that easy to do, or else we would have 668 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 6: done them before, easily done. 669 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 5: Trump did it in less than a year, very easily done. 670 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 5: The difference is the Republican Party don't want it, they 671 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 5: don't have the stummach for it. They just won't do 672 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 5: what's required to be done. And also, whenever they pass 673 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: the tax cut, they make it permanent for the corporate 674 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 5: class and then make it temporary for the taxpayer. And 675 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 5: then then they come back and say, well, in order 676 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 5: to keep the tax cuts, we got to make this big, 677 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 5: massive spending bill. 678 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 6: So you would so, okay, let me ask you this, Larry, 679 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 6: if it were twenty twenty four all over again, you 680 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 6: would not vote for Trump based on what you've seen 681 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 6: so far in year one. 682 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you answer, Larry, who would you 683 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: vote for? 684 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: Are you a white dude for Harris? Do you think 685 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: Kamalo would have done a better job. 686 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: Your argument, the argument for the two party system is 687 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 5: old and outdated. We can no longer say that, Oh well, 688 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 5: if you can't vote Republican, who are you going to 689 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: vote for? 690 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm just asking you if you could go back 691 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 6: in time. You're unhappy, But I'm just saying, if you 692 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 6: go back in time, you would not vote for Trump 693 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 6: because you're so unhappy with this year. 694 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: I would not vote for Trump for this reason. I'm 695 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 5: a service technician by trade. I diagnosed problems and then 696 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: create solutions to fix them. That's what I do for 697 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 5: a living. The first thing we have to do is 698 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 5: diagnose the problem, and the Republican Party not listening to 699 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 5: its voters is the problem. 700 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 6: And once we have that, thank you Larry, Larry, Thank 701 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 6: you Larry. I appreciate you diagnosing the problem. I live 702 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 6: with Larry's passion. I do like Larry's passion. 703 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: I think he's not the guy you want to call 704 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: at two am if your HVAC goes down, though, I 705 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: feel like he might be pretty ticked off. 706 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 6: I would just say, look, there is a segment. I 707 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 6: looked at what's the number. There's something like Trump has 708 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 6: the highest approval rating. Among the Republicans I think that 709 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 6: he's ever had in his entire political career. 710 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 1: Right now. 711 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 6: That doesn't mean that everybody is in the still Trump camp, 712 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 6: but I really think I mean, again, the lowest murder 713 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 6: rate since nineteen hundred, a completely secure border, a record 714 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 6: high stock prices, rapidly accelerating growth rate in the country, 715 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 6: and inflation that has come down. I think it's hard 716 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 6: to If you had told me a year ago that 717 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 6: we were going to have the lowest murder rate since 718 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 6: nineteen hundred and that we would have zero people crossing 719 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 6: illegally into the country, I would have thought that was very, 720 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 6: very difficult to accomplish. And Trump has done it. In fact, 721 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 6: I would have said, there's no way that's gonna happen. 722 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: Ransom in Columbus, Ohio. 723 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 12: Ransom, you guys got the golden microphone, and Rush would 724 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 12: be proud of you. 725 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 726 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 12: Just a couple of comments. As far as Minnesota goes, 727 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 12: they're doing the hearings in Washington. All the state politicians 728 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 12: are testifying with you know, being sworn in for perjury 729 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 12: if they lie, and every one of them have come 730 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 12: out and said that they believe the walls and the 731 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 12: ag knew that all this frog is going on. So 732 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 12: I would say that I would like Pam Body to 733 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 12: do conspiracy charge against both of those guys, and then 734 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 12: she should take on a French fry mayor there in Minneapolis, 735 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 12: because once one politician goes down, guess what, they're the 736 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 12: president And Clay, you're a lawyer. Do you know that 737 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 12: if you have a president for one thing, then it's 738 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 12: easier to trying the next case. And I would like 739 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 12: them to come and get my mayor in Columbus, Ohio 740 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 12: because he's labeled to a sanctuary. I'm sitting and the 741 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 12: chief of police and they said fully on the video 742 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 12: and you can check it out that they sit it 743 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 12: in no living shape or form. They want to help 744 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 12: ice and we just got a big raide there. So 745 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 12: all these little people that think that they're great fault, 746 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 12: they need to be accountable to the voters who gave 747 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 12: them their trust. And I appreciate you guys. And the 748 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 12: last thing I want to say is can you beat 749 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 12: the band on the bud light thing that you did 750 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 12: about a year ago, because you guys, caw, you hammered 751 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 12: that thing and next thing you know, bud Light conformed 752 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 12: to the will of the people. We need to get 753 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 12: our federal judgment in there. Trump can have a great 754 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 12: eating three years here and then you want to have 755 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 12: these problems with these magistrates not signing off of the 756 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 12: right thing. And I appreciate you guys, thank you. 757 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for calling. He had a lot of 758 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: things there. 759 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 6: I do think in the years ahead, what he pointed 760 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 6: out about bud Light, I think it was one of 761 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 6: the most transformative of consequential anti woke responses that we've 762 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 6: seen on any level. And I think it changed fundamentally 763 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 6: the way that most not all, but most companies in 764 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 6: America do business and dragged everybody back to the middle 765 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 6: part of the country and sanity as opposed to insanity. 766 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,479 Speaker 6: Look what he's hitting at is I think a real 767 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 6: question that is very valid, and that is how in 768 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 6: the world can mayors and governors defy federal law and 769 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 6: do the sanctuary city aspects. And it was one thing 770 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 6: when Biden was in office, and you could then say 771 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 6: the immigration policy somewhat signed off and agreed on those 772 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 6: I think it's a real question that's valid across the 773 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 6: country and we will see. I will just say buck 774 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 6: as we go to break here and you take us out. 775 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 6: One of the most interesting things about these arrests in Minneapolis, 776 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 6: Democrats are on the back heels and they're not fighting 777 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 6: these arrests at all. I think the protests in Minneapolis, 778 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 6: which they thought initially were going to benefit them quite significantly, 779 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 6: maybe the numbers they're seeing nationwide aren't reflecting that most 780 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 6: Americans agree that these protesters are making the Democrat Party 781 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 6: look better. And now that it's starting to get super 782 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 6: cold in Minneapolis, I wonder whether the word is going 783 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 6: to go out, hey, guys, that this is not the 784 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 6: win that we thought it was going to be because 785 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 6: they're not standing up for these guys getting arrested right 786 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 6: now at all. Look, home break ins occur twice every 787 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 6: minute on average nationwide. Now, Trump's done a lot to 788 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 6: bring down the murder rate nation why, which is fantastic, 789 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 6: but unfortunate. There's still a lot of burglary, a lot 790 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 6: of home invasions that happen, and that's just the reality 791 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 6: of the country we're in for the foreseeables. So you 792 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 6: need to tend your own defense, that of your family, 793 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 6: your household, and Saber has the best non lethal products 794 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 6: on the market for this. 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Gavin 814 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: Newsom aka Evil Keanu, reeves he is coming back, I 815 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: assume shortly, if he's not already from Davos, where he, 816 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: as I understand it, did not actually get to give 817 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: a speech last minute. 818 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: Very upset about this. 819 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 2: Gavin is no surprise I hear he's flying his shirt 820 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: at half masked play He's only got it buttoned halfway right. 821 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: Now, which is this is this is funny. 822 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 6: You know, our friend Alexi Wallace ridiculed me recently for 823 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 6: buttoning my shirts too tall, too high up. Alexi's like 824 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom, also a California and he's like, basically, you 825 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 6: should be unbuttoned down to the navel. But it is 826 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 6: funny with Gavin Newsom. He he is the he's got 827 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 6: multiple different buttons undone. 828 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 2: We have a we have a California expert who's joining 829 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: us now, Katie Zacharii, a political legal commentator out on 830 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: the West Coast. And Katie, thanks for being with us 831 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: with us again you can way in on this. First 832 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: of all, Gavin Newsom, is he just doing what Californians 833 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: do by having his shirt on button to his navel 834 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: or is this. 835 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: Specific to Gavin? 836 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: Also, what happened to his Davos speech and why is 837 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: he in Davos in the first place. 838 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 13: Well, he's in Davos as everyone has said, to troll 839 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 13: President Trump, and extremely unsuccessfully. He was there ahead of 840 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 13: him and then just absolutely got eviscerated and left in 841 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 13: the corner as we all saw in the little kid's 842 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 13: table when President Trump walked in the room, and he 843 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 13: should have been disinvited from the US House when he 844 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 13: was going to give this interview with Fortune after denigrating 845 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 13: the President who's working. 846 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 3: A historic, historic national. 847 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 13: Security deal with Greenland of which our children, grandchildren and 848 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 13: their grandchildren will reap the benefits of Gavin Newsom has 849 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 13: nothing better to do, although I could find some things 850 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 13: out in California than to go and criticize President Trump. 851 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: For a Board of Peace and uh, you know. 852 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 13: Greenland acquiring Greenland and will do so without any military force. 853 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 3: So he doesn't deserve a seat at the big kids table. 854 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Honestly, it is funny. Did you see I think he 855 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: was called sparkle Kin or something like that. 856 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 6: Now, Buck, you watched the Barb movie, right, if I 857 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 6: recall and said it was trash, I never watched it. 858 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: I couldn't even I couldn't even get through it. Couldn't 859 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 2: even get through it tried. It was garbage. I don't 860 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: care if anybody says the only reason I anyone watched 861 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: it was nostalgia. 862 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 6: It's a garbage movie. So Katie, is that inaccurate? I'm 863 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 6: betting that you This may be typecasting, but my wife 864 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 6: saw it. I bet most women saw it. I'm betting 865 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 6: you saw the Barbie movie. Is sparkle Kin a good 866 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 6: description of Gavin Newsom? 867 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 3: Definitely type casting? I did not watch it, Oh I am, 868 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,959 Speaker 3: I am. I'm not much of a movie buff. 869 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 13: And if I do watch a movie, it's gonna be 870 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 13: like a Brave Heart or a Gladiator type of movie. 871 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's Clay's wife's favorite movie. Wherever. Welcome on 872 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: the program. 873 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 13: Yeah, great movie, one of the best, and honestly, Secretary 874 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 13: beston put up the meme of this or someone did 875 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 13: on X and that's where I saw sparkle Ken And 876 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 13: it does represent Gavin Newsom. But I also think, and 877 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 13: I keep repeating this, the severity of a governor of 878 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 13: a second tier governor, low rate governor going out against 879 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 13: President Trump needs to be taken seriously because he is the. 880 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,479 Speaker 3: Democrat front runner. 881 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 13: I watched a call she do this entire platform on 882 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom is the not just preferred, but has soared 883 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 13: after this trip to Davos to basically troll President Trump 884 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 13: as the front runner for the Democrat Party. 885 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: And so here we land. The Democrat Party now has no. 886 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 13: Platform except to troll President Trump, to have wide open borders, 887 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 13: to defy ice, and to allow criminals to run rampant, 888 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 13: and to not build and rebuild a city after a 889 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 13: year of a two hundred and fifty billion dollars of 890 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 13: wildfire damage and leave, as Secretary Besson said, the residents 891 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 13: of California homeless while you're trolling President Trump. That's what 892 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 13: we have from the Democrat Party. And it's actually a 893 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 13: pretty serious indictment on all of the people in their 894 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 13: party and no policy positions, Katie. 895 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: To hit what you just said. 896 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 6: Cals's favorites to be nominated as the Democrat nominee in 897 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight, Gavin Newsom has a thirty five percent chance. 898 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 6: Second place is AOC at a ten percent chance, So 899 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 6: he has not only got the lead, he's got a 900 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 6: pretty crazy significantly Josh Shapiro eight percent chance, Kamala Harris 901 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 6: six percent chance. So you're right, California Governor Gavin Newsom 902 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 6: has soared do you think he is electable. Now, I 903 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 6: know he's awful, and I know he's been a disaster 904 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 6: for California, But take that away, is he could he 905 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 6: beat JD Vance, could he beat Marco Rubio? He I 906 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,919 Speaker 6: think is an adroit politician, sadly, and Democrats have shown, 907 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 6: I mean, they almost elected Kamala Harris. I can't imagine 908 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom would be a worse candidate than her. 909 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 13: Right, So you look at those seven swing states that 910 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 13: President Trump dominated against Kamala Harris, and he can't win 911 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 13: a Pennsylvania and a Michigan and Wisconsin. 912 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 11: Right. 913 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 13: The first place he went was North Carolina to announce 914 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 13: his kind of soft campaign, but not really. He did 915 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 13: this squishy thing because he knows his state's a dumpster fire. 916 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 13: But he's basically gone to North Carolina to soft campaign 917 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 13: for the presidential And you look at these swing states 918 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 13: and I don't think it's my assessment he cannot win 919 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 13: those swing states against a JD. 920 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 4: Vance. 921 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't work for Middle America. 922 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 13: The greasy kind of slick back hair in California, button 923 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 13: down shirt and no paulis see, it works for the media, 924 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 13: it works for ex hype and to have this press 925 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 13: room troll President Trump, but he's not running against President Trump, 926 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 13: as you just said, would it be JD. Vance Er, 927 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 13: Marco Rubio? And then he's going to have to start 928 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 13: falling on his policies when he's not trolling President Trump anymore? 929 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 3: And what does he have to stand on? And Middle America? 930 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 13: I think sees this in Gavin Newsom? So is he electable? 931 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 13: In my opinion he's not. And if the Democrat Party 932 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 13: continues going on with Gavin Newsom, maybe we're going to 933 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 13: get another clean sweep of those seven swing states with 934 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 13: JD or Marco. 935 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: So what's going on, Katie with I can't I can't 936 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 2: even believe I'm saying this that Swalwell has been considered 937 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 2: the front runner to take over Gavin's seat, because, first 938 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 2: of all, that means Clay, now you're gonna have Swallwell. 939 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 6: Six words down, Buck. I actually think Swalwell is worse 940 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 6: than Gavin Newsom. Like I don't think Gavin Newsom is 941 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 6: a moron. I think Swalwell is actually stupid and really 942 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 6: kind of diabolical in his stupidity. 943 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: All true, yes, but now there's some problem. There's some 944 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 2: problem with he doesn't even live in California. Do Californians 945 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 2: care what's going on. 946 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 3: California? 947 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 13: Well, look you have what you have, the situation of 948 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,399 Speaker 13: the mortgage fraud with Letitia James. And now you look 949 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 13: at Swallwell, who wants to run for governor of California. 950 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 13: And he's not even a resident of California. 951 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 3: So no, he can't run. And that's that's real. And 952 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 3: as he was trained. 953 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 13: But even go back before they expose where his residency is, 954 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 13: he was trying to say that he was going to 955 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 13: revoke the driver's licenses for ICE agents. Now why are 956 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 13: ICE agents in California to begin with? Because Gavin Newsom 957 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 13: and Kamala Harris left the border wide open and we're 958 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 13: having to depourt criminals in our quote sanctuary state and 959 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 13: sanctuary jurisdiction, which all just got noticed by President Trump. 960 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: They are going to have federal. 961 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 13: Funding revoked every sanctuary jurisdiction across the country because they 962 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 13: are in violation of. 963 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 3: Our supremacy clause. 964 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 13: So Swallwell already is just falling flat on his face 965 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 13: because he cannot revoke the driver's licenses of ICE agency 966 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 13: in California. 967 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 3: So it's hot air. And then to see actually you're 968 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 3: not even a California resident. You can't run. 969 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 13: So now they have Swallall's out, Katie Porter and the 970 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 13: disastrous launch of her campaign. 971 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: She's out. So you're looking at this kind of who 972 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 3: is it? It's are we going to get a Republican 973 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: because again. 974 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 13: The Democrats are just not bringing forth candidates that are electable. 975 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's a really super interesting question 976 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 6: that you are asking about. At what point do you 977 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 6: think and are we there Californians might finally throw up 978 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 6: their hands and be willing to change directions Because we've 979 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 6: had Steve Hilton on this program a lot. I know 980 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 6: he's running an aggressive campaign all over the state of California. 981 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 6: What would it take for a Republican to be able 982 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 6: to win in your mind, a statewide elective office again 983 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 6: in the state of California. 984 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 13: The first thing, and I'm going to go really quickly federal, 985 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 13: we're starting to see an uptick of the Save Act 986 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 13: and this is absolutely necessary for the security of our 987 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 13: elections going forward and for our win of the twenty 988 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 13: six midterms, and then to go back to California, voter ID. 989 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 13: We have to have voter IDA in California we now 990 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 13: have it right. Currently, we have a law that was 991 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 13: passed in the Senate and signed by Gavin Newsom that 992 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 13: pole workers it is illegal to ask for a driver's 993 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 13: license and proof of ID. 994 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 3: It is illegal in California. So Carl Demayo, our. 995 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 13: Assemblyman, an assemblyman, led an initiative that's getting a lot 996 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 13: of steam, including support, verbal support and ex support from 997 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 13: Elon Musk on voter ID in California that is going 998 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 13: to be on the ballot in twenty six this this 999 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 13: election cycle. And once that happens, I think we're going 1000 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 13: to see, including with voter rolls and new conservative and 1001 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 13: common sense and Republican voter registration, I think we will see. 1002 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 3: A turnaround in California. 1003 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 13: I may be too optimistic and having lived in California 1004 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 13: my whole life, but people are sick and tired of 1005 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 13: these policies. They're sick and tired of the gas prices 1006 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 13: that are still high fours, low fives. And when we 1007 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 13: have voter ID and we regulate who goes to the 1008 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 13: ballot box to vote and you have to be a citizen, 1009 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 13: it's a game changer. And that's an eighty twenty issue, 1010 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 13: Believe it or not in California. Once that's on the ballot, 1011 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 13: it's an easy yes for people, and we're going to see, 1012 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 13: in my mind, a big shift in the electorate, big 1013 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 13: shift in politicians, but not in tell then not in 1014 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 13: I don't think twenty six is winnable right now for 1015 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 13: a Republican without voter ID. 1016 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: What's the status, Katie A, Sorry, Steve Hilton? What's the 1017 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: status of the wealth tax on the billionaires? Got a 1018 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 2: lot of media attention last few weeks. 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