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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: This he is hanging with the Boys, presented by wing

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Speaker 1: Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: Shooting Hume Day.

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Speaker 4: Looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at

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Speaker 4: the Star in Frisco, where it was really fall early

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Speaker 4: this morning, but.

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Speaker 5: It feels great right now.

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Speaker 4: Seventy degrees seventy two is the high, forty nine is

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Speaker 6: He is in Nate, This is Kurt, This is Shannon.

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Speaker 6: In the back is Chris. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 6: Together we make Hanging with the boys the sports talk

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Speaker 6: equipped on the Brew people feel when we speak.

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Speaker 3: Brought you eating every day by Wingstop where Flavor.

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Speaker 7: Gets his We.

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Speaker 6: And I was a little bit premature. Mark rented Cook

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Speaker 6: is not coming good quarting Mike McCarthy, he's rehabit well,

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Speaker 6: it's his window. Has it opened up?

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Speaker 3: What's the latest on dak is he and I are

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Speaker 3: they still taking it?

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Speaker 7: Day by day.

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Speaker 6: They're still still taking the day by day from what

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Speaker 6: I'm hearing, No official IR designation has been announced yet

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Speaker 6: from those But like we can all do like Dovin

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Speaker 6: Cook does. Wait to Jarry gets on the radio. He'll

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Speaker 6: tell us eventually, figure out.

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Speaker 5: What's going on. Figure out. Just listen to the flagship station.

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Speaker 5: So you gotta do Yep.

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Speaker 7: How you guys doing today?

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Speaker 5: Mentals and dental's good.

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Speaker 6: Dentals are good. Yeah, middles are okay.

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Speaker 5: Middles are okay. Nate, how you doing doing great? Natesan

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Speaker 5: study mode.

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Speaker 4: He's got a pen in his hand, he's got his notes,

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Speaker 4: he's got his iPad, he's got his.

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Speaker 7: Phone, and I've already broken it down.

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Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I just want to make sure

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Speaker 2: I say the right things and stay in the right

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Speaker 2: frame of mind.

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Speaker 5: All right, Kurt, you look very well put together today.

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Speaker 3: You don't look slouchy today.

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Speaker 8: That's nice.

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Speaker 3: Hair, collar's nice and.

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Speaker 5: Slouchy.

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Speaker 3: Taking how you want to.

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Speaker 6: Look slouchy?

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Speaker 3: Look comfortable?

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Speaker 9: You know what I can get Trying.

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Speaker 4: To see what's going to Christates for cleaning the hair,

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Speaker 4: the hair off the table.

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Speaker 7: I did yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Actually that was hair, wasn't it.

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Speaker 7: It was not okay, it.

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Speaker 3: Was the spider that's back here, Like, if you want.

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Speaker 6: Low key like you, you got a lot of domesticated,

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Speaker 6: like domesticated traits in you. He does, which I appreciate,

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Speaker 6: I do know. I hope I.

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Speaker 5: Didn't screw him up. On Halloween we met up.

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Speaker 4: He was gracious enough to let me bring bring the

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Speaker 4: kid over to his name walk around anytime you walk

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Speaker 4: around with and I bragged on his decorating skills to

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Speaker 4: his wife.

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Speaker 6: Oh he didn't do home.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Did you do the home?

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Speaker 10: Now that's her that's her spot though, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm I'm shouldn't listen to the show, so

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Speaker 10: this is a good time to do this, Okay, Before

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Speaker 10: you came over, She's like, man, I need to take

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Speaker 10: down the stuff that says hello.

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Speaker 7: Spring a wow.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, honey, Halloween was.

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Speaker 10: A long we got we got stuff from we have

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Speaker 10: all the seasons up right.

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Speaker 4: But no, she didn't take them down technically, though in

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Speaker 4: her defense, it has been spring weather.

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Speaker 5: Up until this week, so more like.

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Speaker 7: But I did.

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Speaker 3: About halfway through me getting that out, I.

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Speaker 4: Realized, like, oh no, I'm good, No, I'm good. A

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Speaker 4: screw she may expect him to decorate the house.

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Speaker 6: Are your work wife? But you for you?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 12: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 10: My wife calls me the house husband.

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Speaker 6: So okay, So yeah you got that, You got that

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Speaker 6: vibe to you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: My mom raised me that way.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Mom? So do you cook?

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Speaker 7: I do?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I'm not like Gal. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: If you look at you being a top tier man,

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Speaker 5: All right, that's enough making us look bad. Moving on,

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Speaker 5: all right?

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Speaker 3: You coming home for dinner tonight?

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Speaker 5: Are you decorating?

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Speaker 3: Yeh Is there going to be candies? The left has

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Speaker 4: I hope so, because y'all had about twelve pounds in

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Dak, Cooper Rush will be at the Helm

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Speaker 4: this week. How much or what? What?

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Speaker 5: Will we see anything different with this offense?

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Speaker 4: Dak hasn't actually hasn't really been a mobile quarterback, so

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Speaker 4: that not a lot is going to change there. But

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Speaker 4: Cooper Rush has been around forever, right, so he knows

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Speaker 4: the offense. He knows, you know, he's ready for this.

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Speaker 4: He's proven it, you know in his in his previous

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Speaker 4: you know, emergency duty. Will we see much different? Will

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Speaker 4: they maybe be a little take.

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Speaker 7: A less risk more risks.

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Speaker 5: Is it kind of like, Hey, what do we got

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Speaker 5: to lose?

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Speaker 3: Let's just he has a deep, pretty deep ball.

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Speaker 5: Let's just fling it around a little bit, see what happens.

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Speaker 6: I think, inspect, I don't want us to mistake this

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Speaker 6: Those are two distinctly different teams, way better offensive line

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Speaker 6: that he played behind in that team. Uh, there was

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Speaker 6: the turnovers. So I think in this iteration of what

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys are offensively, there has to be a different

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Speaker 6: things that I was when I was looking on a

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Speaker 6: come out quick. Ball has to come out quick. And

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Speaker 6: you know, I know a lot of people are going

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Speaker 6: to say, well, I seen this particular offense and that

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Speaker 6: And I say to you, don't do just because they

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Speaker 6: look a certain way. You have to be a real

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Speaker 6: think about what your team and who your team is

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Speaker 6: right now. And like the fully term that I use,

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Speaker 6: you know, when you're a kid and you're like, mom,

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Speaker 6: mom Ma, could I get McDonald's and mongos? We got

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Speaker 6: McDonald's at home. The Cowboys currently right now are the

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Speaker 6: McDonald's at home, right They're not the fancy restaurant, the

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Speaker 6: good stuff. They're the McDonald's at home that you kind

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Speaker 6: of got to just deal with and settle for. So yes,

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Speaker 6: it will look different, but the name of the game

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Speaker 6: for the Cowboys has to be quick right now. Whatever

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Speaker 6: whatever he can do to get the ball out of

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Speaker 4: The fastest, Nate, do you do anything from an offensive

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Speaker 5: Different with oh, this quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it's more of the same guys. These

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Speaker 2: guys are gonna have to just continue to work on

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Speaker 2: their technique, continue to work together five that find them

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Speaker 2: four or five running plays that they feel great about.

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Speaker 2: Give yourselves a different formation, different looks. But run these

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Speaker 2: plays that you know you can run and give yourself

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Speaker 2: a chance. I'm with jesse Man. Three and five step

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't put the extra pressure on Cooper to

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Speaker 2: because in looking at the film, you don't know they

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Speaker 2: ninety eight Jalen Jalen nice.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to find us five or six

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Speaker 2: run plays that we can do and cut out no gadgets,

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Speaker 2: no gadget plays this week. I mean, just come out

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Speaker 6: The thing that we've heard for a long time, right

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Speaker 6: Kurt with this team has been getting back to the basics, right,

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Speaker 6: doing the simple things. I think with this current situation,

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Speaker 6: to go basic and offensively, it's gonna be paramount upfront

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Speaker 6: you're always because they don't blitch much, they're gonna play

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Speaker 6: a lot of coverage. There's always gonna be an extra

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Speaker 7: Tell them what coverage is. Yes, when we get.

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Speaker 6: More deef, I'll get to that, But offensively for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 6: like uh with BB. When you're looking at having to

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Speaker 6: in time where you're gonna have You're supposedly you're gonna

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Speaker 6: that's BB and Smith on Carter or BB and Martin

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Speaker 6: then when you come to the point where okay, BB's

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Speaker 2: Let me add a libit to what Jesse was saying.

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Speaker 2: They say a base three four I've seen it twice,

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Speaker 2: will rotate. Every one of these numbers can possibly play.

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Speaker 2: You don't have but three sacks, but you'll see him

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Speaker 7: Jesse, you hit it.

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Speaker 2: You should be Dolphins coordinator for this game because we cannot.

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Speaker 2: I don't think hold up man for man, just each

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to go with the two tight ends.

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Speaker 2: You call that twelve personnel.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so we're gonna have to do that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to chip these guys and keep this

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Speaker 7: This is what you have to do. And back to it.

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Speaker 2: I know you hate the wall theory, sometime you're gonna

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Speaker 2: in Jalen Carter. Oh my god, what did what round?

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Speaker 2: Did they draft him in the first round? What tenth

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Speaker 5: And when you chip, chip, yeah, don't throw a wing

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Speaker 2: Round and let these boys and more importantly in that

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Speaker 7: It's gonna hit Cooper. We cannot Cooper case.

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Speaker 2: It's not as big as dak Like you said, Jess,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and he ain't black.

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Speaker 4: and then we go back to what we did with Dak.

447
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Speaker 4: Could have put some good some tape out there that

448
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Speaker 4: proves some things that you should be doing things different again.

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Speaker 6: I think what we saw before, like that team, like

450
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Speaker 6: if you just pull up that roster, it was so

451
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Speaker 6: different than what this roster is. This league is so advanced,

452
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Speaker 6: it's so smart, and to be basic in the sense

453
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Speaker 6: of what you're talking about, you need to have superior talent.

454
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Speaker 6: Our reference Nate and his offensive line back in the day.

455
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Speaker 6: You knew it was coming. Hey, we low right, low left.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do about it because we had

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Speaker 6: the biggest, the baddest, the meanest old foes around this talent,

458
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Speaker 6: and we're gonna maul you down down after down after down,

459
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Speaker 6: So you can do that, just.

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Speaker 9: To back up your points that twenty twenty two offense

461
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Speaker 9: ranked fourth and points eleventh, and yards. The defense ranked

462
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Speaker 9: fifth in points allowed, twelfth in yards. The running game

463
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Speaker 9: was ninth and yards second in touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was just a difference of top ten

465
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Speaker 6: across the board. Yeah, pretty much everything. And if you're

466
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Speaker 6: going to be basic, you, in my opinion, you need

467
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Speaker 6: superior talent. You need the talent that go, we're going

468
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Speaker 6: right there. I'm telling you, we're running the ball right here,

469
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Speaker 6: and those guys on the other side, No, I'm just

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Speaker 6: gonna hold on for dear life and hope that we

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Speaker 6: can stop them. And I don't think this team currently

472
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Speaker 6: constructed have the Jimmies and Joe's to allow true basics

473
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Speaker 6: to win over. I just don't believe the talent is there.

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Speaker 6: And when you're talking about now taking and police feel

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Speaker 6: how you feel about quarterbacks, some people will be on

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Speaker 6: the page and say that Rush is better than DAK,

477
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Speaker 6: or DAK is better than Rush, whatever. There's a reason

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Speaker 6: why Dak is a starter in sixty million dollars a

479
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Speaker 6: year and Rush is a glorified backup. There's a reason

480
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Speaker 6: to that. That's not that's not a bout mistake. So

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Speaker 6: you lose talent there. And now you add that to

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Speaker 6: the mix of an already overall bad offense, bad offensive line,

483
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Speaker 6: bad running game, no juice, bad you know, the blocking

484
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Speaker 6: isn't there. So to go basic lends to the belief

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Speaker 6: that we can win down for down without any other creativity.

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Speaker 6: And I just don't think that we can do that.

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Speaker 2: We can and that's why you got You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to give a lot of different formations.

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Speaker 7: And I'm telling you who is.

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Speaker 2: Great at that is the coach for the Rams. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: he give you multiple looks and basically run the same play.

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Speaker 2: And now coach has to steal a little bit of

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Speaker 2: that coach has.

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Speaker 4: So you almost have to be more creative because Cooper's

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Speaker 4: back there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you're doing the back to the basics, how

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Speaker 9: are you also being The.

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Speaker 7: Thing is you can run. You can have ten.

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Speaker 2: Plays that you basically run, but the formations who's doing it?

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Speaker 2: Like you may have a say, excuse, you may have

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Speaker 2: a tight end whoman down this time on your defensive end.

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Speaker 2: Next time you may be running somebody out of the

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Speaker 2: formation and have a little one of your receivers got

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Speaker 2: to give up his body and you'll see that with

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Speaker 2: his team, and this is what our team has to

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Speaker 2: be more conscious of. Okay, they're going to ask me

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Speaker 2: to do something that's a little bit different as a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. So I got, I got to give it

509
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Speaker 2: all I got, you know, because they're they're asking me.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna run basically the same little outside play, but

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Speaker 2: it's somebody else doing the women. This time it's somebody

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Speaker 2: else blocking down. Or we may put a trap in

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Speaker 2: this where we cut the defense. You know, because I'm

514
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Speaker 2: telling you the Kobe Dean and this Zach Bond is unpronouncing. Yes,

515
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Speaker 2: these dudes can fill gaps like no, I ain't seen it, brother,

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Speaker 2: They can fill gaps like I thought.

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Speaker 3: The Kobe Dean was too small in the draft.

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Speaker 5: Don't nobody wanted him.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: He coming downhill for them, and he can get out

521
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Speaker 2: and coverage. I seen him a couple of times out

522
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Speaker 2: well well running back took him out there on the

523
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Speaker 2: out on the outside, and he handled his business. We

524
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Speaker 2: just have to play with a purpose, and we have

525
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Speaker 2: to play for sixty minutes when you're not it's talented

526
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Speaker 2: do the injury, do the whatever. And I've been in

527
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Speaker 2: that situation before. You just have to it's no rest,

528
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Speaker 2: It's no, it's no from Monday to Sunday, there's no rest.

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Speaker 2: You gotta overtax yourself, you know, as Jason would say,

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Speaker 2: you gotta know what you know what you know and

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Speaker 2: you and it's got to be second nature.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, this this, this team can be beat. I mean

534
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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay got him, uh and who else got him another?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I know Tampa Bay got him well in that same

537
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Speaker 2: division I think got him too.

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Speaker 7: So they Atlanta the same. Yeah, so they can be had.

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Speaker 2: They can be had, but you're gonna have to be

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Speaker 2: precise and you have to be good and you can't.

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Speaker 2: This is a mistake free game. Yes, this is a

542
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Speaker 2: mistake free game because you jump off Yeah, because you

543
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Speaker 2: jump offside, it's gonna hurt you. They they and even

544
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Speaker 2: though explain that coverage you was talking about my brother.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so when you when you look at what they

546
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Speaker 6: do on the back end, they're gonna play, uh, they're

547
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Speaker 6: gonna play quarters coverage. They're gonna play some cover two

548
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Speaker 6: and basically quarters coverage is when you when you look

549
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Speaker 6: at the field right. The field is broken down into

550
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Speaker 6: four quarters, right, you know what I'm saying. So you'll

551
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Speaker 6: have some coverages. They'll play cover five. They'll play one

552
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Speaker 6: side will be a Cover two, the other side will

553
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Speaker 6: be Cover three. This side, that's a Cover two. That

554
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Speaker 6: safety will have over the top. That cornerback's gonna have

555
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Speaker 6: the flat the other side, that safety will have the

556
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Speaker 6: third of that field. The corner will have the third.

557
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Speaker 7: Of that field.

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Speaker 6: That's Cover five, right, three and two.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: If you just have straight quarters coverage, that means everybody

561
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Speaker 6: has a quarter. Break the four down into four quadrants.

562
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Speaker 6: The cornerback has from where he stands all the way back,

563
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Speaker 6: safety from where he stands all the way back, safety

564
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Speaker 6: all the way back, corner all the way back, and

565
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Speaker 6: they'll mix their coverage up. You'll see some man coverage.

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Speaker 6: You'll watch, Uh the I was about to say something

567
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Speaker 6: I shouldn't say, but you'll see the quarter back Nikobe Dean,

568
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, coop it the jong he's he'll see him

569
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Speaker 6: running across with what you know with some players, and

570
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Speaker 6: they'll go some man and man coverage. So they're gonna

571
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Speaker 6: mix their coverages up, but they're gonna make you have

572
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Speaker 6: to fight and play through coverage. They used to go

573
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Speaker 6: to that a lot if you watch back early in

574
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Speaker 6: the year, and even some of the thing they did

575
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Speaker 6: in the past, they would go to the more man

576
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Speaker 6: and man coverage and they just couldn't hold up anymore.

577
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Speaker 6: They just, uh, Darius Slay couldn't hold up anymore. They

578
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Speaker 6: had some some other guys out that they just couldn't

579
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Speaker 6: hold up. Quintin Mitchell, they just couldn't hold up in

580
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Speaker 6: that particular coverage. So now they're playing more of the

581
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Speaker 6: own coverage, basically saying we're gonna we're gonna just have

582
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Speaker 6: our front four rush, play our zones, play our space,

583
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Speaker 6: and hopefully we get home. Or you make a mistake

584
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Speaker 6: and we say play the percentages that you can't walk

585
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Speaker 6: the ball all the way down the field, uh for

586
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Speaker 6: uh you know, for a touchdown. So they're gonna give

587
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Speaker 6: you multiple coverages. The big thing is and and who

588
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Speaker 6: knows this could change because you're playing the Cowboys, but

589
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Speaker 6: it's just not a team that blitz. I haven't seen

590
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Speaker 6: them blitz a lot. But they may look at this

591
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Speaker 6: offensive line and go, let's go get us some let's

592
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Speaker 6: go get us A couple they like I said, they'll

593
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Speaker 6: send the blitz every now and again. Or what they'll

594
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Speaker 6: do is they'll send a linebacker and then they'll drop

595
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Speaker 6: Sweat or you know what I'm saying. So it looks

596
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Speaker 6: like pressure, but they'll have their normal You'll see that

597
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Speaker 6: they're three four, but there are four guys up front,

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Speaker 6: and then at the snap you'll see a linebacker come,

599
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Speaker 9: They're twenty fifth and all.

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Speaker 4: back right.

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00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Can you pick just one guy that.

666
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna keep your eye on on Sunday and the Jesse,

667
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you the same thing about the secondary.

668
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 7: I wanted to what Jalen Carter gonna do? Ninety eight.

669
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: He's slippery man. He's a big man and he's slippery.

670
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: He got kind of that Fletcher Cox to him that

671
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: he's gonna take some years for me to believe in that.

672
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: But he's slippery, bro, Jayleen ninety eight, it's nice.

673
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 7: What about you, Jess?

674
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: In the secondary, they got some.

675
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: Names for the first time ever.

676
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: And I don't know ifout, I don't know if I'll

677
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 6: ever say this again. I don't know ifout ever again.

678
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: I don't know if we'll ever see this again. In

679
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 6: the National Football League they don't have one, but they

680
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 6: got two starting white dudes in the secondary. You know

681
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 6: yet that just ain't the position happens, that just doesn't happen.

682
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: You may see a white you know white.

683
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: With this leak over into the first show with the

684
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: same way the whole segment not often Seahorns.

685
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 6: Name came up to roll over in his great if

686
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: he's not dead, but you know, not often did you see?

687
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 6: But I gotta give a little credit like Cooper Dijon

688
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 6: or Degene like it's a little bit of a player.

689
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 6: But I think I think in this in this game,

690
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 6: the guy that you have to watch is gonna be

691
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 6: it's gonna be re blanking ship in that secondary read

692
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 6: blanking Ship is gonna be in that secondary. He's gonna

693
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: be watching and lurking and looking at the eyes of

694
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 6: of Cooper rush and float around the scene where if

695
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 6: he can't pick something off and that back end, so

696
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 6: you know, he's the he's a signal caller in that

697
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 6: back end for that for that secondary. So uh, we'll

698
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 6: see read blanking ship.

699
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 5: You like you like any of the other guys.

700
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Nick Hoby Dean is my sas your second i'mb seventeen.

701
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: This little dude, it's like a little spark plug man

702
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: with some pit bull in him.

703
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 7: He's nice man.

704
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 6: And he's coming on because it was it was a

705
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 6: little bit of kind of like little bust action going

706
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 6: on for him. Yeah, he wasn't pre and projected the

707
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 6: way they wanted him too early on. But he's coming on.

708
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 6: But like you know, Darius Slay, I mean he's more

709
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: name than his player now like his his he is,

710
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 6: he's not. He's not the same.

711
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: He's not big place slas make a place.

712
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 6: No right if he makes a players because we did something,

713
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 6: remember that guy Santana Boss never did until they played

714
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 6: the Cowboys touchdown.

715
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: He single handedly revived Chris Jones' career. Don't do that

716
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: to him. Just don't tell him that.

717
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying like right now, like he is

718
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: one of those guys that like his name and his

719
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: reputation kind of is still carrying him. But he's not

720
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: the player that he once was. He's not that guy

721
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 6: that you remember in Detroit. You're not that guy you

722
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 6: remember early and you know when he first got.

723
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: Can't come back from so many injuries. He had some

724
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: injuries in Detroit. Now as he getting older, it's just

725
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: hard from the you know, the injuries kind of ride

726
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: on you a little bit.

727
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 10: Man, And.

728
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 9: Had another question finished.

729
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 6: I was going to say, and Gardia Johnson, he's another

730
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 6: one of those guys that's a little bit more barke

731
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 6: than bite. Like he he's gonna talk like he's a talker.

732
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 6: He's gonna talk a lot. It don't matter whether he

733
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: get beat one time or two times. He gonna he

734
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 6: gonna he gonna talk a little bit, and it's gonna

735
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 6: be interesting because if you remember, a couple of weeks ago,

736
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: maybe about three or four weeks ago, he and Michael

737
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 6: Parsons had a little back and forth via social media,

738
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 6: So that that that'll be interesting because he might have

739
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 6: a little bit more motivation, not that those two faced

740
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: each other, but to go out there and try to

741
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 6: make a play on Micah's team so that he can

742
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 6: go on uh and and micaeh. You know, one of

743
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: the guests on his podcast is Darius Slaty. He's had

744
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 6: on a couple of times too, So I mean it's

745
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 6: a little couple of backstory things that may happen in

746
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 6: that one. But he's a Guardia Johnson. He's a guy

747
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: that's a lot more barked than bike.

748
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 9: So I had just kind of change the direction here.

749
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 9: Earlier in the show, you had talked about all these

750
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 9: four nations they should do than one to two personnel

751
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 9: personnel personnel. We're not getting much out of our second

752
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 9: tight ends. I think Scoomaker only had three snaps the

753
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 9: last two games on offense.

754
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 6: It's not he's in the doghouse with shoddy company.

755
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 7: I guess.

756
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 9: So how much is that not having a solid tight end?

757
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 9: Is that hurting what the offense?

758
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 7: Sometimes you have to take the sometime you have to.

759
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: Get out of the dog house, whether they I'm talking

760
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: up with the coaches for the sake of the team,

761
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, you just have to go to the kids

762
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: say man, look here, we need more and we're gonna

763
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: put you out there.

764
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 7: And that goes for the other kid to.

765
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: Uh brothers span Ford.

766
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like coach Johnson would do, he like

767
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: you would get in his doghouse.

768
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 7: But don't let that game pop up that Oh Son,

769
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: you out of the dog house. We're going to give

770
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: you another chance. See what you can do. Hey, that's

771
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 7: it's no dog house. It's no room for that.

772
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: You you press players to the grind you press their

773
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: nose to the grindstone, and you just got to go.

774
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: You got to go.

775
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 9: But does it affect the offense that much when you're

776
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 9: you don't have that at least a yeah.

777
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: A good options, a second tight end.

778
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: Yeah it does, I mean it limits.

779
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: Span four was his key is supposed to be a

780
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: help a blocker.

781
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 7: So we.

782
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: When do you start believing I'm going to give you

783
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: the opportunity And I'm talking from a coach.

784
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 7: Hey, hey, brother, sham, I'm finna give you opportunity. Man.

785
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 7: They say we need to put you out in space

786
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: because you don't need to be running up in the middle.

787
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you out in space. I'm giving you opportunity.

788
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: It comes to a point where coach has to give

789
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: you a second chance and a third chance.

790
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 7: Because this is not college. You don't have one.

791
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty guys. So you you, whether you want

792
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: to or not, you have to get to the third

793
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: and fourth ten. That's where they at on the Stevens's mind.

794
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: That's where you're gonna be at. On the offense. You

795
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to keep giving guys chances, whether you want

796
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: to or not.

797
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 7: It's a bad place to be, it is, but you

798
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 7: gotta give him a chance.

799
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, who can we get Do we.

800
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 7: Have a gun practice squad?

801
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 8: No?

802
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 7: Ain't Stevens hurt? Yeah?

803
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: Speak speaking of hurt, what's the latest on CD?

804
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 6: Is he week to week?

805
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's working out on the side, you know, rehabbing

806
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 9: and possibly won't practice this week, but so possible.

807
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 4: Could play Jesse from a receiver standpoint, having a bad shoulder,

808
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: obviously you need to raise your hands to be.

809
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: Able to catch a football.

810
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 7: Hit it right there?

811
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: Is that one of those depends on you know, they

812
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: got the good stuff in the locker room they do,

813
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: and and.

814
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 6: The pain tolerance, like like you know what I mean,

815
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 6: like because I'll tell you it's one thing when you

816
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 6: have an injury that happened in game, right, because now

817
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 6: my drem is going. I'm already up here, right, so

818
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 6: when it happens, I can kind of fight through. But

819
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 6: now when you got to start from nothing and build

820
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 6: up to that, that's when sometimes.

821
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: That even happens with non professional athletes. You in the gym,

822
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: you roll an ankle, You're like, I'm good, I'm good.

823
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: You finish the game and you get home, it's like

824
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: I can't get off the couch. Yeah, imagine trying to

825
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: ramp back up for you know, to perform at your peak.

826
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 6: And so it's it's part of Okay, will I be

827
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: able to raise my arm if a pass is extended?

828
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 7: Right?

829
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 6: When will I find that out? When will I find

830
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: that out that I'm able to go up and go

831
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 6: get a pass, because what I don't want to find

832
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 6: out is, oh, the ball is coming and now it's

833
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 6: a tip and it's an interception. Or now I'm thinking

834
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: in my head because I can't forget the last couple

835
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: of plays in that game where he catches the two

836
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 6: point was a two way conversion or whatever it was,

837
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 6: and the dB just need to show down and he

838
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 6: was like it didn't even.

839
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 7: Hit him hard. You want to cross over? Yeah? Yeah?

840
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 6: And so now what happens when he comes across the

841
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 6: middle and it's jammed up? Am I thinking about it?

842
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: Or now in his mind? Because CD to me is

843
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 6: a as a hand catcher. So what if he tries

844
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 6: to go to the body now and that throws you

845
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 6: off because I'm so used to doing this Now I'm

846
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 6: not used to catching it. I'm not used to catching it,

847
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 6: so it's ricocheting off and I'm not getting the timing right.

848
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: So all of those things. And if he's not practicing,

849
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: you don't test that pain tolerance in practice. No, he

850
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 6: does some good drugs that they give you.

851
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: Now, do coaches on game day? Do you worry as

852
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: a coach about a roster spot like that, would you

853
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: rather like just say CD goes out there and he's like,

854
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: I want to try it. As a coach, are you like,

855
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 4: I'd rather you try and me be short at wide receiver.

856
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 5: No way, The risk reward is greater if you can go.

857
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: But maybe you go play one play and then you're out.

858
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: I know that's a possibility, and then I'm short handed

859
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: on wide receivers.

860
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 7: Do coaches think like.

861
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: No, No, he's gonna try it ninety minutes before before

862
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: they make that decision, and they're gonna have.

863
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 7: All the guys. They are all the possible wide receivers.

864
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Because if you go out there one receiver short, like

865
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: we did a couple of weeks ago, with one one

866
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: cornerback short, it's gonna be even worse. So you don't

867
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: have enough receivers at that game to make that decision

868
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: ninety minutes before that inactive list come out.

869
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 7: You don't play those games.

870
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: But as a coach, do you think of it like that, Like,

871
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 4: I know you're telling me you can go and you

872
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: want to try it, but Britt come over.

873
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 7: It will help you. Britt will help you make that

874
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: decision as.

875
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: You're going they have a meeting every day, So as

876
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: they're going throughout the week, they're gonna ask when Jim

877
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 6: Miwa was sitting and not meeting. They're gonna say, all right,

878
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: city lamb, what's going on? Jim. He's been working with

879
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 6: Britt and we think, you know, he's he's looking good.

880
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 6: He's like, it's gonna be a game time. But you

881
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 6: know they're gonna be like, it's touch and go. We'll see,

882
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: like we're gonna see how it responds tomorrow. But right now,

883
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Speaker 6: that's not you know what I'm saying. So you gotta

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Speaker 6: have a you gauze it a little bit. But like

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Speaker 6: tonight's point, there's gonna be you're gonna you're gonna prepare

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Speaker 6: for the worst, Yes you are, and hope for the best.

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Speaker 6: I'd rather have, well, I'd rather have a receiver in

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Speaker 6: uniform and never touch the field, yes, right, because I'm

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Speaker 6: preparing for him out to play, then saying he's gonna play,

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Speaker 6: don't give that receiver a jersey. And then now after

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Speaker 6: a play or two plays, he can't go because he

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Speaker 6: hits the ground and it hurts again. Now now that guy,

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Speaker 6: you're like, shoot we or he he does that and

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Speaker 6: someone rolls their ankle. Now you really short?

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Speaker 5: So what cornerback are we on? By the way, on

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Speaker 5: the depth chart, we down the.

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Speaker 9: Uh oh. Kaitlyn Carson was back in the lineup last week.

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Speaker 9: He was the fourth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the fifth, the fifth, and the sixth of

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Speaker 4: gotten the games right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's kind of touch and go who that is?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I can see shadow, Shannon.

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Speaker 2: Due to the fact that you just can't even line

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Speaker 2: up enough players on the field, We're gonna ask you.

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Speaker 4: To leave, all right, fellas, good show. We will be

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Speaker 4: back tomorrow. Cowboys defense. We're gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 4: this Eagles offense because on paper, it's like if they're healthy,

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Speaker 4: like and on field, what do you know?

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Speaker 7: What do you what do you I see of getting

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Speaker 7: these guys?

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Speaker 3: Oh, tune in tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Let's hear this.

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Speaker 3: Is it reasonable? Is it asked?

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Speaker 4: Nine eight nine eleven, Jesse, good seeing the good seeing you, Kurt.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for not being a schlup today than yourself together. Yes,

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Speaker 4: thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh and Jazz,

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Speaker 4: thanks for keeping him company. We will be back tomorrow Thursday.

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Speaker 5: On Hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 7: This has been up for Duck.

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