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And um, you know, from 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: a personal side, the next gentleman that we're gonna have 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: on for a conversation, he has been my uncle. Well 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: he's been my uncle for all sixty one years and 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm here on the planet, and um, he's just been 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: a great uncle and a great inspiration. And I've got 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: to say he's more of an inspiration. Uh. You know, 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: the older I get, the more I realize what he 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: and his generation like him and those that have gone 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: before him have accomplished and given us. And as they say, 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: freedom isn't free, and listening to him, you'll understand why 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: as we step out from being the Car Doctor talking 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: about fixing cars and we talk about Memorial Day and 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: all that that entails. Let's welcome aboard First Lieutenant Stephen 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and Nanny in three thirty ninth Fighter Group, fell Mer England. 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve, how are you today, God love you. I'm 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: doing great. I'm doing well, sir, I'm really doing well 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: and glad to be here with you talking about once 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: again Memorial Day and what it's all about. Me I 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: thought we'd coax a little couple of stories out of 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: he is. I'm sure you have them. Um, you know 67 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Memorial Day, Uncle Steve, I think it's important. You know, 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: this is the weekend everybody around goes around saying, hey, 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: have a happy Memorial Day. That's really not correct, is it. No. No, 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: it's a kind of date buddies and all the things 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: that we went through. But you said something that made 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: me checko. And I don't know if you know it, 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: but I have a great Greg shover now and my 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: great Greg Odana asked me, Grandpa, what did you do 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: during the war. And I used to tell them, well, 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: I climb into my rose voice about five o'clock in 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: the morning far over Germany and chase a bunch of 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Germans and the full swaggers. But that's in effect what 79 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: it was. Well, you know, as they get older, Uncle Steve, 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: the older they get, the smarter you will become, you know, 81 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: because that's that's really how it works. Because I think 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: for your great grandchildren at their age, they it's hard 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: to comprehend. I mean, listen, I'm sixty one. It's hard 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: for me to comprehend what your generation and what all 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: the generations that march off to war do uh you 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: know to put it all on the line. Well, you 87 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: know you just said it that it's hard for anybody, 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: no matter whether they were in a war or not 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: unless you you don't know what it's like, unless you 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: follower or feel and shoot, has the flock coming up 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: back there? Now this is in a picture, this is 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: a podcast. Us still being flowed thrown up here from 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the ground. And why were you flo over that everything 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: in your body fuckoes up? You know you needed the 95 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: care follicles on your arms, co ops, because you know, 96 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I get hurt, and uh yeah, it's a it's a 97 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: different feeling. And uh, I'm very fortunate, you know, we 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: we still have our reunions. In fact, I think we're 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: the only World War two Alfred that's still meets every 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: year and we have our reunions. This year will be 101 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: in uh Milwaukee, and uh we we have an air show. 102 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: We would have a couple of P fifty ones, a 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: couple of PT seventeens and uh the fellows come up 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: in a biotics. Last year I flew in the back 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: seat of P fifty one again, which was a thrill. 106 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: What was that? What was that like? To be back 107 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: in a what was that the World War Two Museum 108 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: in the New Orleans and brought me down there. World 109 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: War Two Air Show every year abound September October, and 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: I was invited down there and they invited me to 111 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: at the back seat of a fifty one and we 112 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: did a couple of slow rolls and that was nice 113 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: hanging by a seat and I'm sure you wanted to 114 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: grab the stick, Oh of course, yeah, well we all 115 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: the things they didn't have one for prospected. I'm sure 116 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to. I remember a couple of years ago, 117 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: you were back up here in North Jersey, down at 118 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Teterborough Airport when they had the you know, uh B 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: seventeen there and um, they realized, you know, you had 120 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: flown and they took you up into the cockpit and 121 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: you were explaining the cockpit to them, and it was 122 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: it was it was a great conversational exchange about you know, 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: from from old to new so to speak, about here's 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: how this plane worked and here's what it did. And 125 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: they listened very very intently to each and every word 126 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: as you dispensed it. You know, you're talking about the 127 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: mechanics and you know, airplanes. When we were you know, 128 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: World War two over twenty years old, we were a 129 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: little about costs. You know, when I threw in combat, uh, 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: three months before I wanted to combat. I flew fully reconnaissance, 131 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: few practice, every airplane, you can imagine, every plane, but 132 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: the P fifty one. When I got us a conbat 133 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I had one hour flying time in the P fifty one, 134 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's when I got hit by anti aircraft fire 135 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: and had a ball out into the north sea. So 136 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I threw that ailplane, which they say you can't five 137 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: more than five minutes with our oil. Well I was 138 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: forty five forty five minutes losing oil away and my 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: buddy who was escorting me, he saw me violently rocking 140 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: in the wings and he says, what are you doing. 141 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm lubricating the engine. I was trying to 142 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: get the oil from the sump upon other engine war 143 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: a side walls, so you know, and it worked. I mean, 144 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: so when you when you went on that first combat mission, 145 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: you had one hour of flying time and off you went. Yeah. No, 146 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: The result was we did survive because of my ability 147 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: to handily airplane. And I was in a war for 148 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: an hour and a half. They have freezing water. The 149 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: week before we lost one product. He was down in 150 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: that water for six minutes and he said to come 151 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: to the cold temperatures. When I was there was right 152 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: because when I went into the water, I just did 153 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: nothing but exercise. It moved my arms and legs and 154 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: kept going. And that's what kept me going. How did 155 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: you have the fourthought, Uncle Steve? Oh my gosh, you're 156 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: your ninety years old, your first combat mission, You've been 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: shot down, You're in the English Channel, freezing cold, there's 158 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: there's there's high seas, right what was a ten foot seas? 159 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: They weren't going to send out and arc rescue And 160 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: here you are hanging onto a donut like a mouse, 161 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: onto a life preserver, like a mouse hanging onto a donut. 162 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: And and you know what what was going through your 163 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: mind at that moment, I was playing You never hers 164 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a guy who plays the hard in his life. But 165 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: what the other part of that story is what I 166 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: was rescued by the AIRFC rescued flying boat. The pilot 167 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: so what my situation was, and he knew I couldn't survive, 168 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: and so even though there was ten foot season, he 169 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: landed his airplane or not. War came over. They pulled 170 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: me up to the sign of the plane. They couldn't 171 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: be prew me into the airplane because I was a 172 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: war A log and a mind sleeper that was there 173 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: in the area came over and they took me aboard. 174 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: And these guys when they took off, they crashed the plane. 175 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: The pontoon came off, and they had to be rescued themselves. 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, you know, everybody was risking 177 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: their law for each other without even thinking about it, 178 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: because that's the situation we were in. We had to 179 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: do that, and this is this is what's wrong. Now. 180 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: What we do is what we had of a war. 181 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: We don't resolve it. We have a cease fire. Everybody says, okay, 182 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: it's over, but it's not right. So what you're saying is, 183 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: let's go finish it and get it over with. You know, 184 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: you'll have to go to the end. My rast vision 185 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: I had of Berlin were smoke coming up from the 186 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: rubble up to twenty five feet, flames were up to 187 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: five thou and the blare was nothing but a sea 188 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: of rubble, and the only thing that you can see 189 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: was it was rules Valley and that was where the subway, 190 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: the the under the lion and that corrupts and you 191 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: could see that. And that was my revision that I 192 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: still have to this day of Berlin, of that's how, 193 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: that's how we've got to finish it. Let's finish it 194 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: happening when you have that kind of devastation. When the 195 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: war was over, who is who are our best friends now? 196 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: The Germans? Because they wanted us to rebuild them? Well, 197 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: because we went in and after we deceded them, we 198 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: helped the economy and we helped them to go. Yea, 199 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve, it's it's it's you know, true words are 200 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: never spoken. We we enjoy you each and every year. 201 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I've got a minute left. What would you like to 202 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: tell the listeners to remind them of what this weekends about. Well, 203 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: just remember one thing. Freedom is not free, and someone 204 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: made a sacrifice for us to be here today and 205 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: we should appreciate it absolutely, Uncle Steve, God love you, 206 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: keep you safe, and we have to talk to you 207 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: again next year, same time. Years. Yeah, twenty six years 208 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: on radio. Yeah, remember when I started. It just seems 209 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: like yesterday. Yeah. So um, I'll have some stories of 210 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: my own Uncle Steve. I'll talk to you during the 211 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: week and you take good care of yourself. Thank you, everybody, 212 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: take care. You're welcome, Ron and any in the card 213 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: Doctor five five zero nine zero zero. We're coming back 214 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: right after this card Doctor five zero nine nine zero zero. 215 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking around and enjoying us with and joining 216 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: with us this hour. And once again thanks to Uncle Steve. 217 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's ninety five now, I you know, 218 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: and he's still got it, um, you know, as sharp 219 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: as a tech. God love him, he um uh, you know. 220 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: And I never heard him describe Berlin like that. So 221 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: I have to talk to him more because I think 222 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: there's things inside of him that time is bringing out, 223 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: you know. He um. He's just just just amazing. What 224 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: a generation that was. And all our troops not to 225 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: minimize any of the efforts of any of them, from 226 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: current to the to the to the you know, the 227 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: oldest God love him, keep them safe. Let's get over 228 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: to Dave and Maine. Some comments and questions about oil, 229 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: oil and oil conditioners. Hey, Dave, welcome to the car doctor, sir, 230 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: how can I help? Yes, I'm I'm calling to ask 231 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: you about conditionerer with syntheticals. Well, let me ask you this, 232 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: whose synthetic oil is it. Well, it might be something 233 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: like mobile one. Okay. My feeling is that I'll tell 234 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I'll answer your question like this, Dave. Years ago, when 235 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: it was more conventional oil we were using, you know, 236 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: five thirty conventional mix, we would put a bottle of 237 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: t P, good old fashioned STP in that little blue 238 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: bottle into probably each and every oil chain. I'm going 239 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: back ten fifteen years. Yeah, and you know, then the 240 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: industry started to really use more and more synthetic. We're 241 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: now Synthetic is really the oil of choice. It's where 242 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: we we we we self synthetic by by requirement now 243 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: probably two thirds, if not more, during the course of 244 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the year. It's two thirds one third instead of the 245 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: other way around. The The issue is synthetic oils by 246 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: themselves are so well engineered, all right, that I tend 247 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: to leave them alone. I don't put additives in a 248 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: synthetic oil, because the synthetic already has some form of 249 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: an additive package in it. I'll speak from Penn's oil, 250 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: all right. All oils start with a base stock, all right. 251 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: And for the record, I think Penn's oil is a 252 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: better oil than Mobile one because I think they start 253 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: with a better base stock. I really do, all right, 254 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: They're using a natural gas derivative, which is a leaner 255 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: based stock oil to start from. And because well, Royal 256 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Purple is a whole another story. Tell me, tell me 257 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: you know where Royal Purple is on engineering and development. 258 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: And I think Royal Purple, in my mind, is more 259 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: of a racing oil. I think that's always been their 260 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: market as far as street cars. Uh if if if 261 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Royal Purple was in such demand in my mind, then 262 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: why aren't they more predominant in the everyday car market 263 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: so to speak. And I'm not saying I'm not I'm 264 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: not saying it's a bad oil. I'm just you know, 265 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: based on what I see. Sometimes when you go to 266 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: the supermarket, you always buy if you don't know what 267 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you want to buy, what brand, you always buy the 268 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: brand that's being used the most. More people are using 269 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: Pens oil than Mobile one and Oil Purple from what 270 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I think there's a reason for that. 271 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Um And my point is that the engineering that goes 272 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: into these oils such as pens oil, the synthetic and 273 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: the way they come up with it, and the the 274 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: the engineering and the studies and the data that supports said, 275 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't believe you need to put an editive in 276 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: on an everyday driving application. That being said, if your 277 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: vehicle has a specific problem and you're thinking, well, this 278 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: additive is going to cure that, that's a different conversation. 279 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: And I've seen some of the things that Lucas has 280 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: where they'll have seal restorers or stop smoke, and you know, 281 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: now we're into a different conversation. We're not using the 282 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: editor to help promote the life of the engine as 283 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: much as to try and fix something that we don't 284 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: want to take the engine apart four to fix. Does 285 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: that make sense what I'm looking at most? You know, 286 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the synthetic goal or the old conditioners, cut 287 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: down on the friction that's in the engine and stop 288 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: and go driving. You know, I don't think it's I 289 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna matter, because if it's, if it's 290 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna matter, I'll answer your question this way. All right, Uh, 291 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: you're concerned about friction and wearing out the engines, it 292 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: still comes down to here. Well, I'll answer it like this. 293 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: We pour synthetic at the shop all the time. We 294 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: pour a house brand synthetic, we pour a Penn's oil synthetic, 295 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and we pour a few others, all right, regardless of 296 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: what we pour, Okay, and it depends on what we 297 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: pour as far as what oil change and we'll put 298 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: somebody on. But we haven't lost an engine yet as 299 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: a result is that synthetic. Usually the engine will outlast 300 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: the car to the two thousand mile mark. I don't 301 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: see where an additive because you think so, we'll make 302 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: that much of a difference. I talked to the oil 303 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: manufacture and get some specifics from them before we start 304 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: making changes. Good luck to you, Dave. I appreciate the call. 305 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Ronina in the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. 306 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're not needing of the Car Doctor E 307 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero Car Doctor show 308 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: dot com for more information and tune in dot com. 309 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, where did I put that piece 310 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: of paper for all my brothers? I wanted to had 311 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: a couple of questions people were writing in talking about Yeah, 312 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: coming up, it's this Wednesday. 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First, thank 331 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: you for taking my call especial. Then on holiday weekend 332 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: you're welcome, welcome to do it for you. UM, it's 333 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a story here about fifty Ego Blues 334 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: two point five leader December at one owner got it 335 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: from a dealership that there. They have the same name, 336 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: but they're owned by two different people, and they played 337 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the middleman. Um. They brought the vehicle up for me 338 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to you know, take it for a test drive and whatnot. 339 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: UM drove it. They had a little drive ability issues. UM. 340 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: They put in writing that they would take care of it, 341 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: and then for the next two months they had it 342 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: longer than I did. By far. Um it it would 343 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: it would died out. Um that you don't need to 344 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: come up to the light. It would chug out and die. Um. 345 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Then the idol would come up a bit. Um. It 346 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: would end up with going up a ramp. You do 347 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: end up with a terrible loss of power. You know, 348 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: you could put the pedal to the floor and you 349 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: weren't getting anything more than fifty five out of it. 350 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: It was an intermittent problem. Brought it back to them. Um. 351 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: They dove into it for about fifteen hours. I couldn't 352 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: figure anything out. Had me take it to a Ford dealership. 353 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: They looked at it for about seven hours. UM found 354 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: a crack spark plug and some wires. You know a 355 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: little bit about vehicles. They told him that it's got 356 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: to be more than that. Uh. They changed that. The 357 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: two days later, still the same problem. Um, took it 358 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: back to the dealership. They said, take it back to Ford. Um. 359 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: They came up with both waste gates on the turbo. 360 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: The turbos were stuck open. So they went ahead and 361 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: changed both turbos. Um, they've looked in the throttle position 362 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: censor they had. They claimed that a typical eco boost 363 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: problem with the multiple cylinder misfire. Yet it would throw 364 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: a code and then sometimes you'd have it and it 365 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't throw a code. Um they went through they then 366 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: they got through everything. It ran okay, this intermittent thing. Um. 367 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: After the turbos, it ran good for a few days. 368 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I started having coming up to the light. It will 369 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: drop down into the way low hundreds, just just right 370 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: before it's gonna die out, um, and then come back 371 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: up again, which is then it also has a hesitation 372 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: when I go to start off. And it's when it's 373 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: running good, no problems. When it's acting up, there's all 374 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: this yeah, right, and it's good luck. You know, it's 375 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: the you know you bring it in it's gonna run fine, 376 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: Um ahead, and a mechanic. Actually tell the service guy 377 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: and we'll tell him maybe he's not used to having 378 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: a newer vehicle. And I'll tell you what. My roommate 379 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: has one year newer, and will my truck was in 380 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: the up with them for so long. I went test 381 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: ro a bunch of these, and it's there's no comparison 382 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: to what I'm dealing with. And had seventy thousand miles 383 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: on when I got it. Um they did, uh whatever, 384 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: so to say flash the computer because they said, you 385 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: know what, learned the previous driver, he was a retired guy. 386 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't ever got on it much, and I not. 387 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: I think you've got some serious problems with this truck, Dave, 388 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: And I say that in all seriousness. I don't think 389 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: this is I don't think this doesn't sound like a 390 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: crack spark plug. This doesn't sound like a relearn. This 391 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: doesn't sound, you know, but a turble thing, right right, 392 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't sound like it's just a turble thing. 393 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: There's there's there's more going on here than meets the 394 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: I So I've got a couple of questions and and 395 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: and you know, some observations. Was this vehicle Do you 396 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: think this vehicle was ever in an accident? No, no, 397 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I know what its car facs aren't always they don't 398 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: tell the truth. You never know what people hide. But uh, no, 399 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: I some I know a lot of people in the industry, 400 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: and uh had a really knowledgeable lead body guy for 401 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: a very reputable dealership around here look at it, and 402 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: you know he's seen he's seen nothing. And I you 403 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: know the gentlemen before me. You know, he's just retired guy. 404 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: You know there was nothing there either. At work where 405 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm at right now, is there there's still I mean, 406 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate what they're doing. They're certainly standing behind it 407 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: with labor and parts right now. They're at about thirteen 408 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: thous dollars into this vehicle and they're still standing behind it. 409 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: What I what I'm currently having is is when you 410 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: when you started up, it's more when it's cold, but 411 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: that it just the idol is not right. I mean, 412 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: it jumps down, it jumps up, and it just it 413 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: doesn't die now. But it is so close to broken 414 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: out and they're still willing to stand behind it. But 415 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: it's not throwing any codes. And it was very intermittent 416 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: when it had all these problems that they have fixed 417 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: with throwing codes, and I'm just a little hesitant about 418 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: them saying stand behind it. They put it in writing, 419 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: stand behind it, But you know how long before I 420 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: end up with a code? How much time is going 421 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: to pass before it does red? It's ugly head And Okay, 422 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: now now they see it, and now we're not willing 423 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: to stand all the time they passed. So you just 424 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: walked into the emergency room. You didn't feel good on Tuesday. 425 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: You're you're feeling okay today, but you're not quite right. 426 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: So I'm the doctor, and I've got to know what's 427 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: going on, right, same same kind of a scenario. There's 428 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: something up, but I can't really put my finger on 429 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: it because you're not You're just not right. I'm going 430 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: to run a battery attests, and in the case of 431 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: the car UM, I'm gonna start to look at all 432 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: critical grounds. I'm gonna make sure bad and I mean, 433 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: some of this might be redundant, and some of this 434 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: sounds real basic and simple, but solving hard problems. In 435 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: order to solve hard problems, I've got to eliminate the obvious. 436 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I've got to eliminate what's good. And if I eliminate 437 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: all that's good, eventually I'll find what's bad. And and 438 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: that's That's one way to approach something like this. What 439 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: what you're describing to in the back of my mind, 440 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: and not to be emotional about it, but sounds like 441 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: a vehicle with a bad ground freight wires, broken ground, 442 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: poor connection, something along those lines. So I'm gonna start 443 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: to look at some of the critical pieces of the 444 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: wiring harness, some of the main engine grounds. I'm gonna 445 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: voltage drop everything and and just try and go through. 446 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe I'll come back and say, hey, Dave, 447 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: I know it's not this, but I can take that 448 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: off the list. Okay. Second thing I want to do 449 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: is I'd like to look at mode six. And we 450 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: lean a lot on mode six. And what it is 451 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: in English is mode six is the reference that the 452 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: computer uses to know when it's broken, all right. You 453 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: ever think about what makes a check engine light come on? 454 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: And you can say, well, the car is broken, but 455 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: how does the car know it's broken? All right? It's 456 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: it's the same way that a desktop computer gives you 457 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the blue screen of death, and it tells you that 458 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: the checksum error is this, or it's out of volatile 459 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: memory or some such because it runs a self test. 460 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: Car computers, desktop computers, they're always running self tests on 461 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: their electronics. When they see a problem, reach a threshold 462 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: bingo and the check engine light turns on, or in 463 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: the case of the desktop computer, blue screen of death 464 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: and the desk and the computer shuts off. In your case, 465 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: I'd want to go into mode six, which any decent 466 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: scan tool will have, and give me the ability to 467 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: look at things like what's the misfire rate? Is it 468 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: reporting any misfires? Is it reporting any issues in any 469 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: areas of fuel trim? What's it losing here? All right, 470 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: it's losing something to make the idle surge like that. 471 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: Has Has anybody thought about the possibility of a defective processor? 472 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: That's the third thing on my mind, You know, whenever 473 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: I get a vehicle that's haunted, I start thinking about computers, 474 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: because there's almost no way to test it um except 475 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: for powers and grounds, and then maybe I'll create a problem. 476 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Has anybody tried to create a false code? You know, 477 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: unplug the mass airflow sensor, the truck will die or 478 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: the truck will run. Funny, does the computer recognize that? 479 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: If the computer can't recognize a condition that I created, 480 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: guess what I'm waiting around for a coat to set 481 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: from something that's broken in the first place. Yeah, that's 482 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Matt. When I was when they got when 483 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: I got it back and it was still lightle and 484 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: messed up. I actually took a couple of wires off 485 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: and died. I didn't get a code to throw. It's 486 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, right it should, yeah, it should, it 487 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: should have something right And and that's a very you know, 488 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: it's a very intermittent thing there. When you when you 489 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: talk about the threshold, you can, uh could I don't 490 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: know what you know fully what thresholds are, pilo whatever? 491 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: If what? Could this be doing something where it's just 492 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: not quite hitting that threshold? Absolutely absolutely here, So a 493 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: misfire threshold, A misfire threshold might be sixty four thousand, 494 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy. So the computer will records sixty 495 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: four thousand, two hundred and sixty nine, it won't set 496 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: a code. It gets to seventy bang the light comes on, 497 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: but it's got to go sixty four thousand, two hundred 498 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: and sixty nine misfires before it sets the fall all right, 499 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: so you know whatever the number is now, you know, 500 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: and I can't prove this, and you know, I don't 501 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: want anybody to really think I'm being negative against car companies, 502 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: but I often wonder do they set thresholds higher on 503 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: certain cars because that way they see less check engine 504 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: lights and we sell more cars because our cars never break. 505 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: We never have check engine light issues. Think about it, 506 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: you know. So, um they started, they kind of got 507 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: you to the out of the point to where it's 508 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't when the mechanics telling me that maybe I'm just 509 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: not used to it, I go on and test drive 510 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of you got quite that way. It's just 511 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: not right. You got you got the wrong mechanic. Listen, 512 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I gotta go. The clock is gonna take me. But 513 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: do me a favorite, and you know, stay in touch 514 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: with us, let us know what they find. Asked them 515 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: about Mode six. I would take it to a Ford 516 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: dealer and have them go through it piece by piece. 517 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: If it's still under warranty, let them resolve it and 518 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: get back to us and let us know what the 519 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: end result is. And uh, if you get stuck again. 520 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: We'll be glad to do what we can for you. 521 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: From marn eight five five five six zero nine nine 522 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: zero zero. We're coming right back right after this. Don't 523 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: go away dead Man's Curve? Hey, Ronan any of the 524 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: card doctor five five five eight five five five six 525 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Hey like that? I almost 526 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: said that mark because the show over yet. Ten minutes 527 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: to go. Let's go and talk to Ashley in North Carolina, 528 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine Chevy Suburban. Ashley, Welcome to the car Doctor. 529 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Thank? What's going on? I 530 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: got as in the classics that I bold that may 531 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: be worried. And ever since I fall, ever since I've 532 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: had it, every time i'll fill up a game, I 533 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: gotta I can smell it in on the cab and 534 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: it'll and it goes away when it gets about three 535 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: quarters of the time. I checked all my line and 536 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, the vents and everything, and everything seems to 537 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: be okay, and maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you could 538 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: help me. Well, yeah, I mean I would think you've 539 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: got a leak somewhere, all right. Obviously, Uh, this should 540 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: be a metal gas tank or is this plastic? It's metal? 541 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: So what makes you think that you and well, and 542 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: here's the weird part, all right, I'm gonna contradict myself. 543 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: You would you would think that if it had a 544 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: leaky gas tank, it would set in the EVAP fault code. 545 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: You know it would it would it would show a 546 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: leak of twenty or less or whatever the number is 547 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna be. But you would think it'd be set in 548 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: four or four two or four fifty six or something. 549 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: But that being said, Um, you know, if you have access, 550 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: if you gotta buddy it with a repair shop, maybe 551 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: with a smoke machine. I'd love. I'd love to plug 552 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: into the neck going through the top of the fuel 553 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: tank neck and smoke it. Does it? Does it? Does 554 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: it continue to smoke? Does it? Does it? Does the 555 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: ball drop? Does it continue to show flow? All right? 556 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: And what I'm trying, what I'm trying to do, and 557 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: I would do that with half a tank of fuel 558 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: or less. What I'm trying to do so you don't 559 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: have to drop the tank to look at the top 560 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: of it is eliminate good all right. If if you 561 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: get the smoke to stop smoking or stop flowing, um, 562 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and you're smoking the tank and it's coming out and 563 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to plug the ventline. Then you know 564 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: it's not the tank. Then let's focus on the canister. 565 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Do we have a canister problem? Did the person before 566 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: you continually pack the tank did did they did they 567 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: shut up the tank? You know when the pump click, 568 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: did they round it off to the nearest dollar and 569 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: or did they try to squeeze another two dollars in it? 570 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: And that that has now spilled over into the canister 571 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: and the canister is so saturated that it just can't 572 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: it can't old anymore. So then we get into the conversation. 573 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: Do we pull the canister down? Listen, sometimes weighing the canister, 574 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: get a new canister away it, get an old canister way, 575 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: see what the difference is. If it's extreme, maybe that 576 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: canisters loaded. I've also I've also seen cases where we've 577 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: got a problem with the vent. The vent isn't working correctly. Again, 578 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: we should see a fault code, you would think, but 579 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: just be mindful. Do we could we have event canister 580 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: area related problem? Last thought, even though I don't think 581 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: this is it, just check the fuel pressure regulator. They're 582 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: very common to fails that model, year, that series. But 583 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: you would be telling me you smelled fuel all the time, 584 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: not just after a fill up. All right, so go 585 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: do those things. I'm up against the clock this segment nationally, 586 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: and if you need more, to give me a call 587 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: back and we'll go from there. Zero nine zero the 588 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: car Doctors coming back right after this. He went to 589 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: the home stretch here on any of the card doctor 590 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: zero tull Car Doctor show dot com. Get out there, 591 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: get some podcasts and click subscribe at iTunes and I 592 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: heart we appreciate it. Read the want adds. You know what, 593 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: sometimes your board you need a good laugh. You're not 594 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: the one is, but the new car ads and used 595 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: car ads I found ave Listen to this a Subaru 596 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: Forester limited moon roof leather with a van with this 597 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: you know stock number all we'll drive auto four cylinder 598 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: boxer engine. I gotta tell you all Subarus or boxer engines, 599 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: that's nothing to advertise. I don't understand why that's such 600 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: a big deal. Electronic stability control, power, windows, locks, mirrors, tilt, 601 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: ninety six thousand miles, a hundred thousand mile five year 602 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: old Subreu. You want to know what the asking price 603 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: for this car is? Thirteen thousand, eight hundred and eighty 604 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: six dollars. This is this is this week's paper. We're 605 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: asking fourteen grand for a five year old car with 606 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on it. A. Does that mean 607 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: that it's war worth while to fix the hundred thousand 608 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: mile car you've got that needs three to five thousand 609 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: dollars worth of work and continue to drive that because 610 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: you know the history on it. Or B Are these 611 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: guys just flat out out of their mind on that note, 612 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: Then there's an article in the paper today off lease 613 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: cars shift market Detroit Infinity least more than thousand Q 614 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: fifty sedans blah blah blah blah blah. And now they're 615 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: talking about there's a glut of lease vehicles coming off 616 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: lease in the marketplace. That means that there's more used 617 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: cars for people to buy than they previously fought. But 618 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: yet we're asking fourteen thousand dollars for a car that, 619 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: my opinion is overpriced and overvalued. I don't get it. 620 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: Be careful when you go out there car shopping this weekend, folks. 621 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: It's Memorial Day, and um just just be careful. Crimeating 622 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: of the car doctor, the mechanics aren't expensive good price, 623 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's see it.