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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Spencer new Art with Weird Hunt.

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Speaker 1: And this is the fourth week of our miniseries Radio

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Speaker 1: and it is November eight, election day. So Mark and

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Speaker 1: I are going to talk about politics for the next

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Speaker 1: half hour. I'm perfect. Yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. But Mark, I,

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what state you're in right now.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Well, it is a little

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Speaker 1: bit change up for me right now because instead of

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Speaker 1: me being recorded this in my computer like usual with

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Speaker 1: all the podcasts I do, I'm actually on a cell

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Speaker 1: phone right now in my truck driving to Ohio. So yeah, changing,

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Speaker 1: changing up. My scenery. Have been pounding at Heart in

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Speaker 1: Michigan and it's finally time to check out a new spot.

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Speaker 1: And so do we have a happy ending yet with

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Speaker 1: holy Field? Uh? No, no happy ending yet. Um. I

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Speaker 1: have been hunt seeing my tail off for him and Um.

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Speaker 1: In in this week's episode of the Wired Hunt podcast,

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Speaker 1: which will be out tomorrow, I go into excruciating detail

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Speaker 1: of everything I've been trying to do and it's just

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Speaker 1: been frustrating because of limitations with Um, with my property, UM,

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Speaker 1: the moral of the stories that I've seen him so

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Speaker 1: so many times, but he's always just a little bit

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Speaker 1: out of reach and most of the time on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the property line that I can't get

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Speaker 1: too obviously. So um so yeah, you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: really cool hunting this buck and getting to know him

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Speaker 1: and see him so often. But he has won this round,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah. Well, that's that's November for you.

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Speaker 1: It can be fun and it can be frustrating. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's we're just talking about. It could be the best

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Speaker 1: of times in the worst of times. But for you,

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Speaker 1: you have you've had some success, right, Yeah. So I'm

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Speaker 1: an opportunity hunter, not just specifically an archery hunter. That's

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Speaker 1: my passion. But if I can pick up a rifle

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Speaker 1: tag now and then I will, and I'll table to

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Speaker 1: draw a pretty easy rifle tag for western South Dakota. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it's a pretty tough haunt. There's a lot of orange,

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Speaker 1: and there isn't much public to go around. So I

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Speaker 1: went in with it with lowered expectations like if I

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Speaker 1: be happy. And and I was able to get a

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Speaker 1: how it went and Uh, it's a good way to

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Speaker 1: start the route for me. It Uh, it makes things

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Speaker 1: easier to come back home now and haunt archery there.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there's a little bit less pressure now

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Speaker 1: to take off that. I love that feeling when you've

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Speaker 1: So so this right, this podcast is all about right

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Speaker 1: activity and reporting on what we're seeing. So can we

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Speaker 1: maybe get our first rout report from you? What have

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Speaker 1: you been seen in South Dakota on that hunt or otherwise? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I'll start with the rifle hunt. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you get a rifle season opening like that with

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Speaker 1: heavily pressured public land, uh, the rut can basically just

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Speaker 1: But the first morning was when I shot this buck,

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Speaker 1: and it was a tough morning. Um, I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: but usually because it's kind of a travel quarter, they're there.

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Speaker 1: And it's just kind of a crime. Um. There's no fancy,

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Speaker 1: That's a tough problem to have, but this is a

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Speaker 1: doing what we love. Yeah. Absolutely, So We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: North American White Tailed TV. Excellent, Well should we should

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Speaker 1: we get right to it and stop our rambler? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We better you You enjoy your drive, Mark he thanks,

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Speaker 1: good luck coming you too, but quickly before we get

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Speaker 1: to our first update. As all Wired Hunt podcasts are,

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Speaker 1: now onto the show. Are joining us on the line.

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Speaker 1: First is Ben Harshine, the founder of Huntera Mapping. Now

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Speaker 1: Ben in Iowa, what would you say the buck activity

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Speaker 1: has been there on a scale of one to ten, Um, boy,

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Speaker 1: I probably put it at I would say, uh seven

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Speaker 1: five days to past week pre you know, really good

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Speaker 1: pre rut action leading into some classic heart for rut chasing. UM.

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Speaker 1: Mornings definitely seemed to be significantly better for movement. UM.

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Speaker 1: Here in the Midwest, we're dealing with UM midday highs

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Speaker 1: and probably the mid to high sixties, low seventies, but

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Speaker 1: the the lows in the mornings at first lighter in

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Speaker 1: have been super hot as far as dear movement and

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Speaker 1: seeing four or five six bucks every morning between first

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Speaker 1: light and UM I'd say nine, nine to ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: These past couple fits recently have been seeing more mature

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Speaker 1: a lot of my sits were I've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of cruising, but you know, uh, two

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Speaker 1: year olds, some three year olds. Um. And then these

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Speaker 1: that I haven't recognized, but definitely four year old plus

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Speaker 1: buck in there this year, and that's particular property that's

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00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more active or more dominant than than

428
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: there has been a year's passed. And um, that's you know,

429
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I can think of at this point. Um.

430
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: But otherwise I've been I've been trying to figure it

431
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: out myself. Sure. And and so you're saying you're seeing

432
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes right now, do you think that's

433
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: typical for this time of year two there or not? Yeah, definitely,

434
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: this is usually when we see him, Uh, first part

435
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: of November for sure. And uh, you know we're out

436
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: of the woods and Vermont. I like to hunt in

437
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: there too. We're not usually in Vermont this time of

438
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: year because there's no seasons open, but that season open Saturday,

439
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: and typically when the rifle season open Saturday, typically when

440
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: I get out there for opening day on on Saturday,

441
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: I see scrapes that are a week older. So so

442
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the first week or two in

443
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: November when we see these scrapes. And what about with

444
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: the doughs that you've been seeing, have you noticed them

445
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: acting any differently or no? I wouldn't say that I

446
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: been looking for it, but I haven't seen it. Um,

447
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean deer sightings. My deer sightings have been pretty

448
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: low as it is, um, just hunting big woods, you

449
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: just don't see a lot of deer. But the ones

450
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: I have seen haven't really been acting any different than

451
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: than what I would expect this type of year. Sure,

452
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: in the in the deer are you see? Are you

453
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Speaker 1: are seeing? Would you say they're from more of morning

454
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: sits or evening sits? Evening for me? Um? You know,

455
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: the last week I tried to sneak out a little

456
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: bit before work. Um got out for an hour or

457
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: two each morning, But so I haven't been able to

458
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: put in a lot of time in the mornings. Um,

459
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: So most of my longer sits have been in the evenings,

460
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: and that's when I'm definitely seeing deer. Um. They just

461
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: seemed to be on their feet just an hour before

462
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: dark or so, working their way out of their bedding

463
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: areas and back up. You know, two oaks that are

464
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: loaded with acorns and and just on the feet to

465
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: go feed. Sure, and so what sort of an area

466
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: have you found this big bucket? I know you told

467
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: me you have a bigger buck maybe like five and

468
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: a half years old, that you've been targeting. What's the area? Yeah,

469
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: you've had encounters with him in Yeah, he's pretty cool

470
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: looking buck. Um. I just got him on camera last week. Honestly,

471
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: I didn't didn't know he was still in the area.

472
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: I have him on camera, um, three years ago, I

473
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: believe as a two and a half year old. He's

474
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: gotta he's gotta messed up right side his right pedicles,

475
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of been off of the side, so it's

476
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: right angler grows funny. So he's pretty recognizable. But um,

477
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, he's he's following roots along

478
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: the top of a probably a mile long ridge. Um,

479
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: he's just cutting across it. And from what I can tell,

480
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: he's of course doing it in the middle of the

481
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: night when I'm not there. But um, he's coming up

482
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: from his betting area, which I think is down in

483
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: the valley, deep valley and up on a hillside across

484
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: a swamp on the other side pretty hard to get to,

485
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: but it's a mixture of hardwoods and pines, and uh,

486
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: he's following the edges of these oaks where they meet

487
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: up with thick pine stands. And then uh, as he

488
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: goes down over over the ridge back to his bedding area,

489
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: he's just following the slight rises in uh, you know,

490
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: in the hardwoods where he can see both directions as

491
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: he heads back down the hill. And pretty neat to

492
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: find that bucks on there. I mean, it's right where

493
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: you'd expect to see it, but oftentimes you just don't

494
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: know you're you're standing in that spot un till you

495
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: until you're there. Um, you know, twenty yards to the

496
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: right or left, you wouldn't know any different. But once

497
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you're there, he realized why a buck's traveling where's traveling?

498
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: He can just see he's got good visuals, um, and

499
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: he can use the wind in the evening and in

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00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: the mornings to travel back and forth. But so far

501
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: I just haven't been able to catch up with him.

502
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: But hoping that changes tomorrow. Sure, And what about going

503
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: forward to the next week or so, what do you

504
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: think the Buck ACTV is going to be? Then? On

505
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten. No, I'm gonna keep

506
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: it pretty high. I mean seven or eight, I would

507
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: think definitely. Hearing you know, stories of people seeing bucks

508
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: chasing now, um, you know, and I'm hoping that's the

509
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: way that this guy is gonna mess up. I think

510
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: he's just got to make a mistake and and I

511
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: think for the most part just comes down to me

512
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: being there, you know, just having the time to actually

513
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: be there and wait him out to make that mistake

514
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: and chase a dough through the area. I just think

515
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: he's he's old and smart, and that's probably the only

516
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: way he's gonna get get killed. So yeah, i'd keep

517
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: it pretty high, seven or eight for sure. Well, that's

518
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: exciting to hear, and I hope that all comes together

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00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: for you. Tim. Thanks for your time. Yeah, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it very much, Talk too soon. And joining us on

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Speaker 1: the line next is Haynes Schillon, associate editor of North

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Speaker 1: American Whitetail. Now. Haynes has been doing some filming in

523
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Speaker 1: Kansas and Haynes, on a scale of one to ten,

524
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been there

525
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: in the last week or so, Hi Spencer as go

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00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: man Um Well, I'll tell you. We came into uh,

527
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Kansas on November three, UH first afternoon sit. I saw

528
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a big hundred and sixty inch tank of a buck

529
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: out there tending two does, and had a hundred forty

530
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: inch buck come in right after him, and we thought

531
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: it was on fire, you know. Uh. The next day

532
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: had another shooter come in, um dog and two does,

533
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: and you know, things were looking really hot. And you know,

534
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: if you'd asked me after our first two days here,

535
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I would have told you man eight or nine, you know,

536
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: we had We've been using a doe decoy and a

537
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: buck decoy, switching them out, you know, day by day,

538
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: and it's had tremendous response to both. At the start

539
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: of our hunt, I had three bucks right at one

540
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: thirty young deer three year old uh, come right into

541
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: both the buck and a doe DKI. I had bucks

542
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: blowing up on it. I didn't have any knock them over,

543
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: but I had them you know how they get all

544
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: bristle back, hair stands up, they lay those ears back.

545
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: I had them circling the buck, and I had bucks

546
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: coming in looking like they were going to breathe my dodecoy.

547
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean just sniffing the butt on that thing, looking

548
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: like they're getting ready to hop on it and mount.

549
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: And uh. Ever since then the past three days and

550
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: then really slow. You know, you know, if I had

551
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: to give you one to ten today, I might tell

552
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you four or five. You know, it's almost, uh, it's

553
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: almost varying day by day so much that it's hard

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: to say. Now. Yeah, well that sounds like the rut um.

555
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: And with that decoying, let's go into a little more

556
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Speaker 1: on what techniques have been using there. Have you've been

557
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: using any sense or calling and what type in the

558
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: area are you sitting those decoys up in? Yeah? Yeah, well,

559
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty wide open here in the part

560
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: of Kansas I'm at. We're hunting uh two big agg

561
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: fields milo and a corn field that are split apart

562
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: by the slough. We call it a plum thicket, and

563
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, it's a great travel corridor slash

564
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: bedding area combo. And you know, we hunt right on

565
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: the edge of that thing, and the bucks and does

566
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: can pile out. It's almost like a wind break too.

567
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: They can pile out from there into these agg fields.

568
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: And that's where we're setting up our decoy. And like

569
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I said, basically, they've got a flambeau boss buck decoy.

570
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: It looks like a great, big, mature buck. You take

571
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: the horns off, it looks like a big like a

572
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: nanny dough and uh, you know, been trying both and

573
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: you know when it's the dough. I got a piece

574
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: of white uh fabric that I cut out looks like

575
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: a tail, and I'll put that thing on there and

576
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: I might apply some you know Estra sent to it.

577
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: And that's where I've had my bucks coming in checking

578
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: that and you know, send checking or smelling around. So

579
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's awesome when you use the decoy

580
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: and it's working. It's some of the most fun hunting

581
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: you can do, you know, to see those great big

582
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: bucks or those you know, young bucks or or whatever

583
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: coming in to check it out. It's just at the rush, Matt. Yeah.

584
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: And what about for your seats on morning versus evening?

585
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Are you seeing more activity on on one or the other.

586
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: It's variable, you know, it's seeing good deer movement on

587
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: both um. But the mornings is where I'm getting. You know,

588
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: that good rut activity that I saw the first two days,

589
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: that was both mornings were we're really on fire. You know.

590
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: The evenings are more more travel you know, if I

591
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: can catch them traveling. We've had them come in and react.

592
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: But I'd say mornings, if I had to lean one

593
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: way or another, probably mournings a little hotter right now. Yeah,

594
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: and what about going forward? What do you think the

595
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: bucket activity is gonna be then on a scale of

596
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: one to ten in this next week or so. Well,

597
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: and I'm in a good part of Kansas, um during

598
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the darn right time of year, you know that could

599
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I could go in in the morning and it's full throttle.

600
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, it could be a teen. You know, we've

601
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: got a big coal front coming in to night. There's

602
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: a frost advisory for the morning. It's gonna hang around

603
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty six degrees. I think it will

604
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: have them wrapped up. But you know they gotta rut.

605
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it. They only get one chance a year,

606
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: you know. I'd say in the next week it could

607
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: be an eight or nine. Man. Yeah, well, I hope

608
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: the timing works out for you there. Thanks for your time, Hains.

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00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Yeah, absolutely, thank you, Spencer. And

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Speaker 1: that concludes that this week's episode of Where To Hunt's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Spencer new Heart. Thanks for listening and I hope you're

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Speaker 1: having an awesome November