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Speaker 2: No, Leo can play I would love to see him

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Speaker 3: That would actually be like amazing as.

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Speaker 1: As Jim Jones.

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Speaker 1: I can play Duels. It's probably a terrible black face

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Speaker 3: In this, you know, because you wouldn't put on a

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Speaker 1: I would be I would just be white yeah and

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Speaker 1: play jewels yeah, and Leo would be Jim Jones.

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Speaker 3: I like that for y'all.

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Speaker 2: I think that that helped bridge the racial gap in elecntry.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Michael Rappaport could play cam.

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Speaker 2: No, I see what's going very very productive, very productive,

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Speaker 2: and you played Freaky Yes, okay, I'm down with that.

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Speaker 2: I can do that all day.

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Speaker 1: We got someone authentic, yeah, exactly, someone that's really from

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Speaker 2: I see those memes going around people on and have

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Speaker 1: But I love it that. It did cause some some

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Speaker 3: Why did they kill you for that?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just a funny joke. And on

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Speaker 3: People are just don't know whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well, I fully support. I do want to see a movie, though.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that story?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim Jones, he was a cult leader. They all

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Speaker 1: went to uh, Guyana and did a mass suicide. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: wearing some Cortez nikes. I think that was the same one.

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Speaker 2: And but you know, whatever, is it a difference? What

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Speaker 1: To do so?

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Speaker 3: But whatever, you ain't got no cortezans on. Now you

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Speaker 1: And once you kill yourself, how are you going to

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying like, what do we what

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Speaker 1: It's funny we're joking about suicide already and we have

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Speaker 2: I think in some ways though, you know, the whole

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Speaker 1: I have make a career out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of hostages and cults, did you see the Kanye

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Speaker 1: I don't see the importance of the Larry Hoover case,

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Speaker 2: Two of our biggest artists ever really be beefing about

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Speaker 1: Like then if you did beat, all right, let me

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Speaker 2: Okay, I missed that track, but okay, and it's one

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Speaker 2: But yeah, if it's anything outside of that, I think that,

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Speaker 1: You have a problem if let's say he did be

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Speaker 3: Speak, before they got together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like I understand if he don't want to,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: I do actually hope that leads to whatever this concert is.

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Speaker 1: not making any assumptions about it. I am very curious

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Speaker 2: I think that that they, you know, maybe build some

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Speaker 3: I think that whatever they do, it will cause change.

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Speaker 3: Though I think I think it almost has.

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Speaker 2: Remember when everyone was doing a mannequin challenge, where were

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Speaker 3: Where were we going with that?

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Speaker 1: Oh we did every palsa with the entire crowd every time.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, nobody can fit down this.

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Speaker 1: This is not And how many people have fireplaces?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well a lot of people have fireplaces.

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, they should have. They should have redid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my nephew the other day he faced Timmy. His

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Speaker 3: Already know that the tooth fairy isn't real.

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Speaker 1: But wait, no, he's not under the mat mom.

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Speaker 2: So he grew up with so many bullshit stories. Man,

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Speaker 1: The twoth fairy one might be the craziestuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like when you think about it, it's like,

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Speaker 1: And you always like cash grow up Catholic with Easter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And rabbits don't lay eggs.

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Speaker 1: And it just taught me.

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Speaker 4: Rabbits don't lay eggs.

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Speaker 2: Rabbit fucking lay no eggs, man, Rabbits don't lay eggs.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just ship that we grew up in our childhood.

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Speaker 2: Man, Like somebody was definitely on acid when they created

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Speaker 1: I just think parents are fucking lazy. I see it

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you're married and you're on

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Speaker 1: And instead of like, hey, maybe you should just teach

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Speaker 3: Okay, was going with that.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna be I'm gonna be an amazing father.

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Speaker 1: I see it.

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Speaker 2: No, you have like you have like father, energy, you

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Speaker 2: have like father, But your aesthetic is like a dad aesthetic.

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Speaker 1: See I have a dad bought it's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying you seem like you would have like

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Speaker 1: We gotta change that because I feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: Like it's a weird dynamic that is in our society

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: You're setting up an environment of some weird transactions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no you are, but I mean more so for me,

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Speaker 2: of course, you give her the tools to be dependent

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Speaker 2: got to protect your morals and protect your your womanhood

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Speaker 2: because you know that's what a lot of these guys

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Speaker 2: And sometimes, you know, they get to age where they

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Speaker 6: I agree, never we never get to that age. I'm

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Speaker 3: Stop asking Daddy.

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well do you think with the son shit like?

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Speaker 1: Because I agree that is how you should raise your daughter.

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Speaker 1: She shouldn't always be dependent on her father. That will

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Speaker 1: That'll be a good example. But having that mentality. The

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Speaker 1: You're going to create a time. That predator that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, you're raising them from, not raising your son.

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Speaker 2: No, you you raise your son with the same You know,

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Speaker 3: Don't hide nothing if you want to. You know, smoke weed.

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Speaker 2: I would rather be smoking it here in the house

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Speaker 2: than to be hiding behind seven eleven somewhere getting in trouble.

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Speaker 1: For me, that's where you learn life. Find that seven eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's seven eleven is dangerous now, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? It's yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's like you.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather the kids be home, you know, in the basement. Listen,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like I'm that type of parent,

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Speaker 4: You can smell if they got some trash too.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I'll bring the loud down like yo, y'are

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Speaker 2: smoking bunk, throw that ship out, flush that I got

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Speaker 2: the I got the za here you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you sound like an old day.

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Speaker 2: Right upstairs, like fellas, Like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to be smoking his bunk down here

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Speaker 2: like that, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean?

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Speaker 1: I guess just raise your sons too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love your sons, Raise your sons please, cause if not,

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Speaker 2: if somebody says something like yo, if you don't raise

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Speaker 1: I need Meg thee Stallion to make to keep your

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Speaker 4: Meg did not ask you to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, why did you throw? We need to raise

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Speaker 3: Okay, but why Meg?

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Speaker 1: Though I just thought of the first female rapper I

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, see that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Lotto killed that. Uh No, Lotto is that that freestyle?

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Speaker 1: She's l Leakers, La Leakers.

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Speaker 3: They've been on a run Loto is and I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I always knew she could rap, Like after seeing that

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Speaker 3: Listening to a joints. I'm like, okay, she can really go.

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Speaker 1: No. I sat in on two sessions when I went

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Speaker 1: and I was blown away, like she can really rap

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Speaker 1: for real, for real, and the music she had was

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Speaker 2: And I used to be on that that that side

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Speaker 2: some words, but you still have to bring life to

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Speaker 3: So you know a lot of female mcs and be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: It's like, I get it because hip hop is supposed

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Speaker 2: and I'll culture that's just what it was built on.

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Speaker 2: But for a lot of these female mcs out here

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Speaker 1: Was kind of my thing. To backtrack to our conversation

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Speaker 1: I would have never heard that Energy record and said,

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Speaker 1: Drake heard that. They're drastically different records. How he delivered

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Speaker 1: He delivered, He made that record what it was.

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Speaker 2: That's a big part of you know, art, is that

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Speaker 2: how you how do you deliver it to the people.

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Speaker 1: Now, if Lotto. And again, what I witnessed Lotto was

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Speaker 1: I'd still have that hip hop nerdness in me that

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Speaker 1: if your freestyle someone wrote, I'll feel a way if

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Speaker 1: someone wrote your song, it is what it is. It's

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Speaker 1: a good record, is where I'll be at with it.

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Speaker 1: But your freestyles kind of needs you to write that

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Speaker 3: But what's the freestyle? I don't even know freestyle is

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Speaker 1: It's a written thing that you go to a radio station.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, we had this conversation before it changed

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Speaker 2: a lot with the Internet. Like rappers used to I

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Speaker 2: think I spoke to Royce about this a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: Like rappers used to travel the country going to different

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Speaker 2: radio stations and use the same two three four rhymes

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Speaker 2: album too, right, But now once you throw away eighty

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Speaker 2: bars or la leacas, you can't use those bars on

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Speaker 2: bar Now what is it? Bar nine five? And to them, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can't use those same bars over there. Now people

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Speaker 2: won't look at you like you're crazy, of course, whereas

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Speaker 2: before you could literally go around the entire country, every

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was funny, uh that Tyler Vince Staples Rosenberg Ebro

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Speaker 1: like do some shit. He's like, dog, I just gave

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Speaker 1: you a thirty two track album today. I have no

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Speaker 1: more bars. Right. I could spit something from that album,

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Speaker 1: but that's about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean rappers are not, you know, robots, but now

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Speaker 2: nowadays you almost have to treat them like their robots,

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Speaker 2: like come rym over here and then go over here

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Speaker 2: tomorrow Rome, and it's just like rappers don't want to do.

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Speaker 1: I feel for the meg fans. I know he was

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Speaker 1: he wasn't really selling that much work, wasn't really shooting people.

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Speaker 1: I had a bit of a letdown when I was young. Young.

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Speaker 1: Do you think these young women are listening to Meg

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Speaker 1: the way they have for the past two years and

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Speaker 1: what she's saying and then seeing how she's moving in

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Speaker 1: real life don't really match up. No hot girl shit

444
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Speaker 1: what she she's making out on ig.

445
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Speaker 3: She spoke about that though. She spoke about that early.

446
00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, I mean, you know, I know

447
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 2: the raps I said it was gonna be hot girl somemmer,

448
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,400
Speaker 2: but you know, like I'm at the end of the night,

449
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm going home to my boot Like so, I mean,

450
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 2: she spoke about it, like, yeah.

451
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Speaker 1: I just I want to talk to some of these

452
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Speaker 1: fans because I felt when I found out that the

453
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 1: real Norriyaga didn't owe Rick Ross one hundred favors, it

454
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: was he thought it was a real thing, Like damn,

455
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a lot of favorites. He was disappointed real friends

456
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Speaker 1: that I don't know, three.

457
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, hundred favorites is it's crazy, Like, okay, what were

458
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 2: you doing and why did somebody owe you so many favors?

459
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Speaker 1: Rick Ross is the greatest man, I know, the real

460
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Speaker 1: When did nor Yaka die? Listen?

461
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: It's the art of storytelling, man, That's what That's what

462
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 2: hip hop is.

463
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Speaker 1: It's the art of storytelling. He owed me a hundred favors.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, pay up on some of them favors.

465
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Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know, but I do feel bad for

466
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: the girls that really thought it was hot as summer

467
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 1: and then saw mag making out. It's a letdown.

468
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Speaker 2: Speaking of hot girl summer, uh Maya Keisha uh Bottoms

469
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: is her name, right?

470
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 3: She?

471
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Speaker 2: She tweeted out that Atlanta is officially in the green

472
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: zone with COVID and that they would be easing back

473
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: on the mask mandates around the city, but it still

474
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Speaker 2: in certain like city official buildings. I think you ustill

475
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 2: have a bob about us because I don't know if

476
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: Keisha Bottoms has been the Copper Cove.

477
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Speaker 1: At all or walked outside period.

478
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 2: In Atlanta, but Atlanta was always in the greens on

479
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Speaker 2: as far as Atlanta was concerned.

480
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Speaker 1: I landed at Atlanta Airport and had a mask on

481
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: where it's like federally regularly people and looking at me

482
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: like if you don't take that fucking mask.

483
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 3: Gotten the uber the uber drivers looking at me like

484
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Speaker 3: you know it's okay for you to take that off.

485
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm like spread in my face, yeah, like I'm from

486
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 2: New York, Like you better have a mask on, because

487
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: if not, you get that alert from Uber saying, hey,

488
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 2: so yeah, you didn't have a mask on, And so

489
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: next time you're gonna have to take a picture.

490
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: And prove that Atlanta ubers are so against masks and

491
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,719
Speaker 1: COVID that if you try to put the window down,

492
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: they'll close, Like, no, keep the germs in here. We

493
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: gotta keep this. We got a hot box, this ship

494
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: with your breath.

495
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't I know that.

496
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: You know, Keisha has to put that out because she's

497
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: the man she has to be. But everyone in that

498
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 2: Atlanta read that like cut it out, like there was

499
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: never we're blowing hookah smoke and it has to be

500
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: Atlanta didn't close halfway since March twenty twenty like at all.

501
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: So I get it. Good to hear that.

502
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: Atlanta is in the green zone and everybody seems to

503
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 2: be healthy and the COVID numbers are way down, that.

504
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 3: Is, which is amazing.

505
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: What is a green zone? What takes you from yellow

506
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: to green?

507
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the numbers of patients and a COVID positive

508
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: tests have to be at a certain number for it

509
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: to be considered green or not.

510
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: That's so odd to me though, Like it could take

511
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: one person to go from yellow.

512
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 3: To shut it back down. I think one.

513
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what country it was, but some they

514
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 2: had literally shut down the entire They went back on

515
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: lockdown because three people had tested positive for COVID and

516
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: an entire Like.

517
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Speaker 1: I guess, it starts with one person, so it's breads.

518
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: I get it. But it's just insane. It's just nuts

519
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: that that's how they're going to gauge it. We're green

520
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: and yellow and like dog to two people today.

521
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: We can go back to Atlanta whenever we want, Rory,

522
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: and we don't have to wear masks. We weren't really

523
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: wearing them down there to begin with.

524
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Speaker 1: We wearing mine, you will be wearing you. I am

525
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: not part of the problem.

526
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: Okay, be progressive with your platform, Rory.

527
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: I was asked a question by a woman recently to Maris.

528
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: I think I want to ask you this question as well.

529
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: She asked me she had taken her braids out some

530
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: weave out m H and said, hey, do you think

531
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: my hair is growing? And I'd seen it before. She's

532
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: with the braids in and she's been trying to grow

533
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: her hair, her natural hair, and that's like one of

534
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: those things of are you asking me for honesty or

535
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: you're asking me set up question your whole night.

536
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: If you answer that wrong, how.

537
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: Do you go about answering that answered? Women ask those

538
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: questions to use their guy.

539
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: You gotta yes, they should, but you have to find

540
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: it's all about the words you use. So when a

541
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: woman says, hey, do you think my hair has grown?

542
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: You look at her and.

543
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Say it does look really healthy because you're not really

544
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: committing to saying it grew, but you're not saying it

545
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: doesn't look good.

546
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: It's like it looks healthy.

547
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 6: Why y'all can't lie to us, just like how we

548
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 6: lie to you when y'all ask pussy?

549
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 4: Is it like just give.

550
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: Us I've never asked that question.

551
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't want that answer, like damn, but no help

552
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: with our confidence. That's part of your job.

553
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: That perfect example. Though I don't ask questions. I don't

554
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: want the answer.

555
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: To, oh you got to live a little. That's that's

556
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: fun moment answers. I just that's like, that's the greatest

557
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: time of your life. Like you asking some shit you

558
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: don't want to know, And right before she answers, like

559
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: you'll start to feel your heart beating and stuff.

560
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like wait for this lot to come out

561
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: of her mouth.

562
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: That's because you guys have this thing called hope. I

563
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: don't deal with hope.

564
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: Hope to let you down where you deal with in

565
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: relationships as far as what you said, you don't deal

566
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: with hope, oh, because I hope leads to you thinking

567
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the answer of her saying this is

568
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: your pussy.

569
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not dealing with hope because hope lets you think.

570
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think you hope. She's gonna say that. No, dog,

571
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: just just live with it. I don't think.

572
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

573
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that men really think that pussy is there.

574
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: If women say that, I think that's just kind of

575
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: like conversation, Like I mean, like those are like fillers,

576
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 2: and like what do we say when you just sit

577
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: here and pound on each other and grunt.

578
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: No, you gotta have like some type of some dialog. Yeah,

579
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: like just like yo, let's talk.

580
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: Let I don't want you to think that you're just

581
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: a piece of meat that I'm just pounding on right now.

582
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: Like I gotta talk to you. I gotta stroke your

583
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: hair and kiss your face like you gotta you know.

584
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: What I mean, like and tell me my hair got longer.

585
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, if I pull it, it gets longer.

586
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: See now, Rory, you dated enough black women to know

587
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: you can't always.

588
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: Put your hand. I'm a connoisseur in knowing what hair

589
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: can be pulled. What can you can you can see it,

590
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: you can weed. I know the number.

591
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know when it's like okay,

592
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: she just got that in. It's just it's a sewing

593
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: that's not glue. The sew winds you could pull and

594
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: it's a good sewing. You feel them like I'm about

595
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: to have fun. The glue, you gotta be careful because

596
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: you don't know which glue she used.

597
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you could tell how it is on her forehead,

598
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: if it's there securely. Yeah, I'm going to leave that

599
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: one alone. But listen, I didn't know what to say

600
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: at that point.

601
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 6: Lie to your partners. Tell your partners what they want

602
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 6: to hear. It will make your lives easier.

603
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: Okay, And what's funny. I don't want to argue that

604
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: because I agree with her.

605
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: No, I agree, lie. I think you need the lie.

606
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: Lying is healthy. It's just that you can't be an

607
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: excessive lie certain lives will help your relationship grow. Yeah,

608
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: it will help your relationship flourish it. It's like feeding

609
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: it like you can over water plants that kill plants.

610
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: So lies is like this water. You just have to

611
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: water your relationship with a little bit of lies here

612
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: and there and watch it flourish.

613
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: That's all.

614
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: It's not completed, not completing sentences. I've said that before.

615
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: Women don't complete their sentences in certain cases. I do

616
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: want that. So, yes, this may not be my pussy,

617
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: but at this moment, I just don't finish the sentence. Yes,

618
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: this is your pussy right now. Yeah, I'm fine with that.

619
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Speaker 4: It's a lease.

620
00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: It's a lease. Hey listen, I'm for it. Let me

621
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: lease that pushy for a weekend.

622
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: But what I need to know how long is the

623
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: term on the lease and does it have like rentals insurance?

624
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: And how many miles does this car already have? And

625
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: do I gotta do I gotta do. I gotta send

626
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: it back with a full tank, like has this been inspected? Yeah?

627
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I need to know, like if we're gonna do that.

628
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: I got more questions now, now I have more questions.

629
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Speaker 1: So yeah, don't tell me I'm leasing it unless we're

630
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: going through everything else anyways, should we get to our guests.

631
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: I know we're kind of all over the place today.

632
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: We have a live show coming up tomorrow. Is it tomorrow?

633
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 6: Recording Wednesday is tomorrow. So by the time they hear this,

634
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 6: our live show will have been over all right.

635
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: We did our live show, did our live show. It

636
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: was great.

637
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: Blew the roof off, Rory, you were great out there, man,

638
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you.

639
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: We blew the roof off for that place.

640
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: Are you bringing a stylist, No.

641
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: My I don't.

642
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: I've never had a stylist. Like my friend was helping. Like,

643
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: I hate shopping. I think I spoke about this for

644
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I hate shopping. It gives me anxiety. I hate going

645
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: to stores looking for things. So a friend of mine,

646
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: she used to help me. She used to go grab

647
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of pieces things that she knows that I

648
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: would probably like.

649
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: The personal shop.

650
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, very simple. And but she had a baby, so

651
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 3: she's home, you know, had had a new born.

652
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Maybe that's too much now, congrats to her. So yeah,

653
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: now I got to do all my So.

654
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: You have to shop and go to Brazil the show

655
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: by yourself and buy the merchant.

656
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta do all my shopping by myself.

657
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: And what you gonna give them, I haven't even thought

658
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: about it.

659
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't know something. I got a bunch of shit

660
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: that I never wore, so I definitely have something to

661
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: throw on.

662
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna find something.

663
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: Well, what do we give them, because now we're talking in.

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Speaker 1: Past ten star, I was thinking something for him fitting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, man, something that you know accent your

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Speaker 2: your your skin, yeah, and your beard.

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Speaker 3: I think you know a lot of fall colors, pumpkin colors, orange.

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Speaker 1: So I like to so I like to fall to

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Speaker 1: the environment.

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Speaker 4: Can we take stroms before our l a show.

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Speaker 3: Before No, not before the show, before the show?

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Speaker 1: Well, we still which is in the calendar, and I

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00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: think we've been pretty good with keeping up with the ship.

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Speaker 1: We say we're gonna do to actually do with the show.

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Speaker 1: We are supposed to go to Joshua Tree with Belly

676
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Speaker 1: and take shrooms and do a podcast or film it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not a podcast, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Just film the entire thing. And that's still you know,

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00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: we definitely gonna do that. That's that's that's definitely we

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00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: definitely gotta make that happen. And Belly he made sure

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00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: he reached out and hit me about that, like, yo, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're still doing that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, for sure, we should rent like a

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Speaker 1: camper and like drive from Jo and that'll be the doc.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely the masshroom dock.

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Speaker 3: I'm with it, full moll shrooms, I'm with it.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait you taking them to of course taking

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Speaker 1: shrooms a bunch of stuff he takes.

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Speaker 2: This is the shrooms, about to do some coke and

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't shrooms without the r now or the oh.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen, and I got.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is what this is.

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Speaker 1: I was wayfit at the show up.

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Speaker 3: Man, okay, get your shit off, man, talk your shit.

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Speaker 1: I don't leave me alone.

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Speaker 3: A subscription feature is coming to Instagram. How do you

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Speaker 3: feel about that? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Subscription? So it says.

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Speaker 2: Some social media platforms have a gun adding ways for

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Speaker 2: users to financially support the people they follow, and Instagram

702
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: is the next. Instagram, a Meta owned platform, announced the

703
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Speaker 2: launch of a new creator subscription. The Instagram app for

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Speaker 2: iOS was recently upgraded with new in app purchases called

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Speaker 2: Instagram Subscriptions, with price pricing ranging from ninety nine cents

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Speaker 2: to four ninety nine, according to Center Tower and Aptopia.

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Speaker 2: While Instagram does not specify the purpose of these in

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Speaker 2: app purchases, they are most likely part of the company's

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Speaker 2: aim to monetize the site while also providing a means

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Speaker 2: for users to support the creators they follow. The idea

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00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: of an Instagram membership to assist creators isn't entirely new.

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Speaker 2: The company acknowledged earlier this year that it was working

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Speaker 2: on exclusive stories, which would only be available to people

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Speaker 2: who paid for them to read the rest log onto

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Speaker 2: da da da da. So exclusive stories is like OnlyFans,

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Speaker 2: it's not close friends. Just like to step up from

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Speaker 2: close friends, like you gotta pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've seen chicks say hey pay for my close friends,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was ill. You know, they just keep

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Speaker 1: elevating the ig chicks, and I'm with it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: hating at all. They will continue to do so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know they got the exclusive stories coming.

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Speaker 2: I mean that could be something cool.

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Speaker 4: All you're gonna drop real money bags.

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Speaker 3: It depends on how exclusive the story is.

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Speaker 1: Like, if I'm following, what would be your quintessential dateline

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Speaker 1: story that you would pay for? In the close friends,

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Speaker 1: there would have to be some uh some some some

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Speaker 1: very nasty things going on from some of.

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Speaker 3: The beautiful women that I follow.

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Speaker 1: I would have to ask Instagram do their laws whatever

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Speaker 1: they fucking put that's wrong when you post like more

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Speaker 1: than just your ass? Do those laws exist in the

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Speaker 1: paid subscription?

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Speaker 2: I would No, I don't think they would because it's exclusive,

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Speaker 2: it's not open to everybody.

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Speaker 3: You would have to pay for that, and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't see them being able to to do that with

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Speaker 3: that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Now, what do you think does this double up the money?

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00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: With the chicks that literally just kind of repost their

742
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: Instagram shit on only fans like they're not doing nothing

743
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: but the same bathing suit pictures just from a different angle, Well,

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Speaker 1: does this get rid of that or does this add

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00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: more to it?

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Speaker 2: This is I think that this is Instagram's way of

747
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: trying to corner the market and and kind of remove

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: the only fans thing because a lot of these girls

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: or creators they have, they create they have, they don't

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Speaker 2: have as large a following on only fans as they

751
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: do on Instagram. A lot of their fans are on

752
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: their Instagram and they kind of like funnel them through

753
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: their Instagram to the only fans through the link tree

754
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: and all of that. But I think now with having

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Speaker 2: something like an exclusive story that you have to pay for,

756
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Instagram now becomes a one stop shop you want to.

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00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: You know, you can look at the regular story and.

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: You know, you know, creators gonna find a creative way,

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Like they'll do things where they have a bikini and

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00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: then start to take it off and then say, see

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Speaker 2: the rest of my exclusive story.

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Of course, they're gonna find a way. We're really gonna

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00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: find out who the smart ones are through this, Yeah,

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00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: because I can see some like really intelligent girl like

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Speaker 1: the way Nipsey sold his mixtape for ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: their pardon one hundred dollars and then sold ten thousand.

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00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: I could see the ig chicks that use the bathing

768
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: suit to get to the only fans way from Instagram

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Speaker 1: to just only wear turtlenecks on Instagram literally fully clothed

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Speaker 1: head to toe. You can only see the eyes that

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00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: be Kenny from South Park, Like, Yo, it's done. You

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00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: gotta now pay just even for the aspicks that you

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Speaker 1: was getting for.

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Speaker 3: Free twenty dollars. I'll take my turtleneck off.

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Speaker 4: Will you take your turtle neck off if I start

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Speaker 4: one for our new and mall me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know you gotta, we gotta.

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Speaker 1: What's my price point?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my price point is, like you know, it's pretty high.

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Speaker 2: I'm now with the one percentile marriage. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you und I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you spoke to the I R S.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I would.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can have fun with that. I think that'd

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: be crazy and we could do some interesting things with

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Speaker 2: with the show. Yeah, I think that would be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: It would have to be pretty interesting for me to

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Speaker 1: try to charge people me personally. No, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: we want a story.

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: We could do things like, you know, you could be

792
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: home cooking without a turn neck, without a turninck please

793
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: some Alfreido going going crazy, going crazy on the salad.

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00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, punkin spice everywhere, going crazy.

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Speaker 1: You could live just just videos of Baisley.

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00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing.

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00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: I see what Instagram is doing now.

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Speaker 1: Of course everyone's doing that that pays subscription ship. But

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Speaker 1: all right, I think I think we should get to

801
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: our guests. I know we had a bunch random topics

802
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and shit was all over the place, but.

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Speaker 2: Doctor I was so disappointed to find out his name

804
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Speaker 2: was not doctor God.

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00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I asked him when he walked in. I didn't ask

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00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: him on the phone last night when we spoke because

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00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I was hoping it was doctor God. And then when

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Speaker 1: he came in and said that it wasn't, I was like,

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: you doctor God.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor God today, So doctor Gad right, Yes, I

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Speaker 2: believe his name is joining us, and I'm looking forward

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00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: to this conversation. I think it's something that we should

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00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: probably make a recurrent thing, just talking to a doctor

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Speaker 2: that deals with mental health and things like that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's important.

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00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: We got to make it cool, make it cool to

817
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: get therapy, make it cool to talk to a professional

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Speaker 2: about mental health, the same way we make it cool

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Speaker 2: for anything else that destroys us.

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Speaker 3: Make it cool for something that helps us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love that mental health has become such

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Speaker 1: a big part of podcasting, and I think with this

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00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: doctor it's a different approach to it. Because therapy was

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Speaker 1: taboo before. Now I think it's become a taboo that

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00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: just going to therapy is not just going to fix it.

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Like now everyone is like, oh, well that's the final

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Speaker 1: step of just like, oh, get a therapist. She'll be fine.

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00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, dog. Shit takes a lot more

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: from diet to what you're doing in your personal life.

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: It's not just sitting talking to a stranger to get

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Speaker 1: your shit off. So yeah, I think there's another angle

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Speaker 1: to this, this mental health topic.

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Speaker 3: So all right, so let's welcome doctor Gad and let's

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Speaker 3: have this conversation.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the new Roran Maul Show. We

836
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: never do formal intros. Ever, we usually start talking shit.

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Speaker 2: Butorganized someone way smarter than doctor, things need to be Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a former.

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Speaker 1: Hello, this is the new Rorrian Mall Show. Welcome episode

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Speaker 1: I've thus forgotten eighteen eighteen. Yeah, we are here with

841
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: doctor ged. We thought it was doctor God, that's why

842
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: we had him on here. But now that it's good,

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of disappointing.

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Speaker 3: I thought God was coming today.

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00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, how would you give us some of your background?

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00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I know you and I briefly spoke yesterday and you

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00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: had some really interesting things to say that I think

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00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: are super important, So we could just start with your background.

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me on talking about serious

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00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: things on serious right, terrible already with the dad jokes.

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00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I like it's lane. This is what we do.

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00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: You know, the whole road is our lane.

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00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: Let's just let's call it that for now already.

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 5: H I'm an, i'm as. I hear you guys talk

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00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: about hip hop, so let me start with that. You know,

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00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: I do represent Queens Hey. What was well in Rego

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00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: Park right off the expressway. I could still see the

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Speaker 5: apartment that my parents moved to when I was a

859
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 5: few months old, and I saw New York City as

860
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 5: a beacon. I still do, and I love this place.

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: I was raised there in Long Island, and nothing else

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Speaker 5: I want to do but be a doctor when I

863
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: was little, you know, because I thought it was the

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Speaker 5: most curious, noble, special, powerful position, you know I was.

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Speaker 5: I was looking to to change people and may be

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Speaker 5: more and I think that's what I'm trying to do now.

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Speaker 1: So the specific part of health that you work on

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Speaker 1: is what exactly psychiatry. Psychiatry okay, and is when you

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Speaker 1: prescribe medications to adjust and talk to people. Of course,

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Speaker 1: important to do both pills and skills to improve their

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Speaker 1: thoughts and emotions and behaviors. So I'm terrified at pharmaceuticals,

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Speaker 1: especially with mental health. I think that's even more terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Like I've taken antidepressants before. I hated the way they

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00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: made me feel. It was awful. So what is the

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Speaker 1: difference in what your practice does in the new ways

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Speaker 1: that you're trying to bring I guess pharmaceuticals into mental.

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Speaker 5: Health, right, you know, I kind of share some of

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00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 5: your sentiment, And that's why I've moved into a bridging model.

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00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: Right.

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 5: I think that to be an extremist to say they're

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Speaker 5: all bad, and an extremist to say there's a pill

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00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: for everything, they're both dangerous paths. And so when I

883
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: started in psychiatry and medicine, I didn't know it was

884
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: going to be a psychiatrist. I mean, I love Fraser

885
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: Crane and all, but I went to be a doctor,

886
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: a real doctor, so to speak. And then I realized that,

887
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: you know, after nine to eleven where I was right here,

888
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: that this was a situation I was going to be

889
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 5: more talented for. So I wanted to reduce harm to others,

890
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: harm to self. I wanted to help people out of

891
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: that darkness, and I needed as many tools as I

892
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 5: could and learn the tools. So before I could think

893
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: outside the box, I had to understand what's inside this box?

894
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 5: What are we using to help people? And at that time,

895
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: twenty years ago and pretty much still it's the same.

896
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 5: We use a lot of benzos, We use a lot

897
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 5: of antidepressants. Sometimes we mix antidepressants. We use antipsychotics for

898
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: people who are not psychotic, for children who are not psychotic,

899
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: as tranquilizers. We mix and match drugs so that people

900
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 5: leave with a bag of medicines and they don't know

901
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: what they're taking, when they're taking it, and how they're interacting.

902
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: These are the things that were frustrating because it meant

903
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: no one was taking their medicines and they weren't even

904
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 5: that effective. If we look at rates of suicide, addiction, homicide,

905
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 5: mass violence, they haven't gone down in the last twenty years.

906
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: Access to treatment has improved. It's not great by any means,

907
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 5: but I think psychiatry has to accept its own failures here.

908
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: So what I do that's different and what I started

909
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: to do at Bellevue because after residency in Long Island,

910
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: I said, I'm obviously coming to New York City to

911
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 5: live and work here. Where else am I going to

912
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: go the mecca of crazy? So here I come, and

913
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 5: I started to see people at Bellevue, And the frustrating

914
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: part was coming back, going back and forth, saying people

915
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: sometimes right, homelessness, addiction, inability to care for themselves, inability

916
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 5: to or in unwillingness to want to take their medicine,

917
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: and suicide attempts and slow motion suicide. So I said,

918
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: you know, there's a great medicine called lithium, but we

919
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: seem to only you it dogmatically for people who have

920
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: bipolar disorder at certain levels. So I said, what if

921
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 5: I used it for this woman who is cutting herself?

922
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: And can you explain what sorry to cut you off,

923
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: what lithium is exactly?

924
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: Of course, In short, lithium is the dynamite that ignited

925
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 5: the entire Big Bang. It is a dust, it's a mineral.

926
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: It's in every rock, it's in every living thing. Okay,

927
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: small amounts of it. At that Big Bang. It was hydrogen,

928
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 5: helium lithium. Two of those are gases, ignitable gases. The

929
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 5: other is a solid. So it literally started the whole explosion.

930
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: And if it's in every single thing right now, we

931
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: know it as a Nirvana song. We know it is

932
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 5: you know something that is in batteries for your phone

933
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 5: for your testa, for your computer, for anything practically, so

934
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: it conducts electricity. It's a metal, it's the third element

935
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: on the periodic table, so it's a salt, it's a metal,

936
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 5: and it's also a very effective psych med But the

937
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: connotation in psychiatry is, well, that's some heavy duty stuff.

938
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: You got to be real crazy to be on that.

939
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 5: It's going to cause side effects. It's going to make

940
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: you a zombie, it's going to slow you down. And

941
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: that comes from misuse and misunderstanding. So back in the day,

942
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 5: we certainly overused that medicine and didn't understand that too

943
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: much of anything that's good on the periodic table hurts you. Yeah,

944
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 5: too much potassium is in the lethal injection. Not enough

945
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: potassium will also kill you because when you have diarrhea,

946
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: that's what you lose electro lights, right, potassium. So tiny

947
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: amounts of good problems.

948
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: I said, all the listeners know about my fiber problems,

949
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: so oh, I would love to But you were saying that.

950
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: So you took lithium, and there was a woman. I

951
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to get a full understanding what lithium wast.

952
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna get there, so you know, So This

953
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: woman is a prototype, right, a person that I saw

954
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 5: over and over many kinds of people that don't have

955
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: certifiable bipolar They don't have manic episodes, but every time

956
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: they come in, they are harming themselves someway with either

957
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 5: with relationships or with addiction or physically themselves. Right, because

958
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: they've had trauma in the past. Trauma is so connected

959
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: to self harm that I thought, why don't I use

960
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: the medicine that reduces self harm viably? This is if

961
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 5: you look at psychiatrien and say what prevents suicide? What

962
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 5: drug that you guys use prevents suicide? There's only one

963
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: that has been tested over and over replicated, and that

964
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: is lithium, and yet it is still number twenty five

965
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 5: on the most top twenty five psychmeds prescribed. So that's

966
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: ridiculous to me. Number one. I started to basically use

967
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 5: less than the prescribed amount because I'm like, if a

968
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 5: lot works for people who have bipolar disorder who are

969
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: really sick, let me use a little bit for you

970
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: to see if you feel better, if you don't want

971
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 5: to kill yourself, if you don't think about suicide. Instead

972
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: of multiple other drugs and combinations that are causing weight

973
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: gain and sedation, sexual side effects. You're not taking these,

974
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: you don't want these. These are snowing you like a

975
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: straight jacket for you. Let me give you this. It's natural. Yeah,

976
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: And I found out that you know what, if I

977
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: use half the prescribe dose, it was working. And so

978
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: doctors pharmacies would call me be like, this patient isn't

979
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: on enough. I'm like, have you talked to this patient?

980
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 5: They're doing great and they're on one pill. So that's

981
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: how I realized that less is more of some natural things.

982
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: How much over the last twenty years as being a

983
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: doctor and studying as far as depression and things like that,

984
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: how much of that do you attribute to social media

985
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: and access to a lot of information, Because I, you know,

986
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 2: I feel like people have so much access to information,

987
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: your brain is on the wheel, anxiety levels start to heighten,

988
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: and things like that. And I think that as a doctor,

989
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you studied patterns of the effects that social

990
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: media and access to information around the world and taking

991
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: in so much information at one time can affect someone's brain.

992
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: Like do you attribute a lot or some of the

993
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: suicidal rates to people with addiction? If you will, to

994
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: social media and being just online reading things and not

995
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: being able to just relax.

996
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: Partition of it. Yeah, absolutely, but not the majority. I

997
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 5: don't want to make social media the devil here they are.

998
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: It's a tool like the Internet is a tool. I've

999
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 5: seen the pre and posts of the Internet. I'm forty

1000
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: five years old. I don't think you guys are that

1001
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 5: much combined. No, I'm kidding, you are seasoned veterans.

1002
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Or someone all just looks like it's twenty five.

1003
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 5: No, I'm kidding though, but I'm probably older than most

1004
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 5: of your listeners. And that's why I think I can

1005
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: be a bridge. And yes, I think that it's an intoxicant,

1006
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: just like you know, alcohol once upon a time, and

1007
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: I think it's necessary for a society. It improves a society. Nicotine, caffeine, sugar, cannabis,

1008
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 5: all of those things, small amounts, moderated improve life. Actually

1009
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: so does the Internet. But if you abuse people financially, yeah,

1010
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: and if you don't give people the right treatments when

1011
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 5: they do need it, then they will use those intoxicants indiscriminately.

1012
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: As advice, and I've been given social media can be

1013
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: a vice as well, how you alone as advice, So.

1014
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 5: Happy kids don't over use social media because they don't

1015
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: need to.

1016
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: They'll have to find that void.

1017
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the fact that like sports

1018
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: are now not testing for cannabis, like the NFL and

1019
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: the NBA and no longer testing their athletes because athletes

1020
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: have been so vocal over the years of saying how

1021
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: uh medical marijuana has helped them physically and mentally deal

1022
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 2: with the group you know, grewsome nature of the sport football,

1023
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: and uh a lot of our NBA players have started

1024
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: speaking about speaking out the last few years about mental

1025
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: health and how medical cannabis has helped them with that.

1026
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: Like, how do you feel about.

1027
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Sports now accepting that and allowing players to use recreational

1028
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: and medical marijuana.

1029
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: Well, here's the plus and minus of it. The plus

1030
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: is that if this leads to less opiate use and

1031
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 5: intense pharmaceutical use steroid use, maybe, right, that's a good

1032
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 5: thing because that can lead to extremely self destructive behaviors

1033
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 5: on and off the field.

1034
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 3: Right.

1035
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: If we're gonna also drink less, that's a good thing. Okay,

1036
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: But I don't think we're gonna see less CTE from

1037
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 5: the use of cannabis. I also think that it may

1038
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 5: not be a performance enhancing herb. You know, maybe on

1039
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 5: weekends right after or for the NFL on Sunday nights,

1040
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 5: I don't know. But it reduces REM sleep. This is

1041
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: the big thing that I talk about with kids, and

1042
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: anyone who uses cannabis enjoys it. And I've enjoyed it too.

1043
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: I think it's special. I mean it's kinnab as Sativa,

1044
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: satava is Hindu. We made this stuff, We invented this stuff.

1045
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: You're welcome, many thanks.

1046
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: So it does, however, have a sacred background in terms

1047
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 5: of rituals. It wasn't meant to be something we enjoyed

1048
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: every day. And it's because it reduces REM sleep and

1049
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: deep sleep. And there's three kinds of sleep. You go

1050
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: to bed, you have light sleep, it's the on ramp,

1051
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: and then you got deep sleep for body rest, and

1052
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: then every ninety minutes you have REM sleep for brain

1053
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 5: rest and rinsing and cooling. That's the purpose of REM

1054
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: of dreams is to process all the junk, to wash

1055
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: out your brain like it's in the washing machine. But

1056
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: when you use cannabis, you reduce REM. So you might

1057
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: notice if you smoke on a Friday, that night you're

1058
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: gonna have less dreams. You'll fall asleep beautifully. You think, right,

1059
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: you have a great time, et cetera. Saturday, you may

1060
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 5: not wake up as crisp Saturday night. If you don't smoke,

1061
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 5: you will have rem rebound more dreams than normal, more

1062
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 5: vivid dreams. That is cannabis and its effect. Okay, so

1063
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 5: if we use regularly, we're not letting our brains recover.

1064
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 5: So that whenever I tell kids and such, I always say, look,

1065
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 5: your brain is a ferrari right now, keep it clean,

1066
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 5: keep the fuel clean. When it stops its really active development,

1067
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 5: then you can dabble in this stuff a little bit more.

1068
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 5: But right now, you know, feeded, love feeded, you know, laughs,

1069
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 5: good stuff.

1070
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: It's funny you brought up the Hollywood thing, and I mean,

1071
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: I know obviously you don't need to say anyone's names

1072
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: or allude to any situations, but I do know that

1073
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: you have worked with entertainers, with famous people, and I

1074
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: feel like our culture just just shits on celebrities and

1075
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: then we go, well, they're rich and famous, who cares?

1076
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: And then we wonder why they act out and do

1077
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: these insane things. The higher they get up in their successes,

1078
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: treating them and speaking with them. Is there any like

1079
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: commonality with entertainers that you think is why there is

1080
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: so much erratic behavior from them once they become famous.

1081
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 5: Well, I think sometimes the insecurities that are that lead

1082
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 5: to them suffering and maybe creating beautiful art, you know,

1083
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 5: timeless art. They remain even if they are wealthy and powerful,

1084
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 5: they may still feel small inside, and so no amount

1085
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: is enough, no amount of adulation is enough, and any

1086
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: time away from stage feels very uncomfortable. We can talk

1087
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 5: about Whitney and Michael and Chester and you know, these

1088
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 5: people that I grew up idolizing and watching and loving

1089
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 5: the music of Cobaine, all of these guys, and there's

1090
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 5: a commonality of abuse in their past. So how much

1091
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 5: do you have to suffer for your art? Is my

1092
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 5: question often to these folks. I think you can stress

1093
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: yourself and suffer to create, But I don't think anyone

1094
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 5: wants you to be a model of self destruction because

1095
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: you also have a mic, and that's power, and you

1096
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 5: have the ability to lift or depress people based on

1097
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 5: your behaviors.

1098
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: And has any of them taken the lithium treatment and

1099
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: found their creative process hindered or a way of Hey,

1100
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: I kind of do need some of this sadness and

1101
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: erratic shit in my brain. I can't really be happy

1102
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: to be this good.

1103
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: Do you run into that great question? So there's two

1104
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 5: there's two realms of this, right, there's people who may

1105
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 5: actually have bipolar disorder. And for those people, I tell them, look,

1106
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 5: any hospitalization is going to derail your social and occupational

1107
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: progress's mess up relationships and also your contracts and stuff

1108
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 5: like that. And when we've seen this studied professionally, we've

1109
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: seen that people who treat their bipolar are actually more

1110
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 5: successful artists and such, they just produce more. Then if

1111
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: it's not okay, outliers like Van Goh and whatnot, you

1112
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: know this is this is very difficult comparison. Now on

1113
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: the low dose level range, yeah, I see the same concept.

1114
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 5: People take it and they say, okay, I've I don't

1115
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 5: feel different, I don't feel unlike myself. I feel elevated.

1116
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 5: It's not an anti depressant. It's pro hope. It's pro elevation.

1117
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 5: It's a mood stabilizer theoretically, but so is this floor.

1118
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 5: It's stabilizing us, it's peeping us from being, you know

1119
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: in the lobby where we can elevate from this floor.

1120
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: So it's preventing your downfall, it's preventing the self destructiveness,

1121
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: and that means that you're going to produce more work

1122
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: and better work. So what that's what they've seen income wise,

1123
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 5: health outcome wise as well.

1124
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Speaker 2: Have you in just looking at artists from the outside

1125
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: if you haven't been able to sit with them one

1126
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: on one.

1127
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: Someone like Kanye West, and this is some do we

1128
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 3: talk about non culture because over the years we've watched

1129
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: him go through some changes, moods, mood swings, say things

1130
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: publicly that's kind of like you look at it like

1131
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: that was a little off. Why would he do that?

1132
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: Do you think that someone like Kanye, because I always

1133
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: talk we talk about it a lot. I attribute a

1134
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: lot of Kanye's, you know things after the traumatic loss

1135
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: of his mom, you know in the law. He it's

1136
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: a I think that we started to see a different

1137
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: person after that, naturally, Like you lose your mom, somebody

1138
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: that you love and care about like that, I think

1139
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: it affects you. Do you think that being in a

1140
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: spotlight like that and then going through something as traumatic

1141
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: as losing a parent and then just diving into your

1142
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: art and your work and not really like taking time

1143
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: alone and away from the public eye. Do you think

1144
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: that that helps you by diving into your art and

1145
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: not really grieving and giving yourself time to heal from that.

1146
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's healthy to do.

1147
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 5: I don't think that's healthy. I think any loss. Look,

1148
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: we're in a time of COVID. A lot of people

1149
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 5: have lost, right I've lost people I know, mentors and such.

1150
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: And it's been awful losses, undignified loss, kids and even kids,

1151
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 5: believe it or not, and mostly elderly are grandparents dying

1152
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: alone in their beds. But any loss, I tell someone,

1153
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 5: you know, there's these stages of grief we know, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance, acceptance.

1154
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 5: That's the end. I don't want to accept. It's not

1155
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 5: enough to just accept that my mom died traumatically. I

1156
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: think we need to go beyond that and talk about

1157
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: honoring her. How do we honor the people we lose?

1158
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's through destructive behavior. We take the

1159
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 5: best of them and continue to live with that and

1160
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 5: elevate them with us. It's star Wars, and you know,

1161
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 5: I mean we want dies and we keep him and

1162
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: we use that love and energy. I hope that he

1163
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 5: would or anyone would not just avoid and dive into work,

1164
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 5: but paul and reflect and see what is the essence

1165
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 5: of that loss, of that life And what can I

1166
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: include not just put a plaque up and such, but

1167
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: what can I keep in my heart every day and

1168
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 5: keep continuing.

1169
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Do you think there'll ever be a world? Because we

1170
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: talked about the NFL and CT and obviously we know

1171
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: that the music business can drive someone fucking crazy. And

1172
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about how record labels should have therapists and

1173
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, have that on deck at any time for

1174
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I want to call them employees with their artists. But

1175
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: even not just the music industry and sports, I think

1176
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: in general, is there a world where every company is

1177
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: required to have someone like you and a therapist readily

1178
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: available as part of your employment And why does that

1179
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: not happen yet?

1180
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1181
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 5: I think that world is coming. I'm hopeful. I think

1182
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 5: we have to have that world because now, you know,

1183
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: if I could borrow a line from one of the

1184
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: best rappers, you know, I don't think the world is anyone's.

1185
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 5: The world is not yours. The world is not mine.

1186
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: We belonged to the world. The world is a living being.

1187
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: It's a planet. It's not a rock. This earth is

1188
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: a breathing macro organism, and we've given it a fever.

1189
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 5: It has a fever from us, from our behaviors of

1190
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 5: digging up oil, sending it hot boxing the whole planet. Okay,

1191
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: so it's attacking us now. It's causing our demise with

1192
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 5: its antibodies. It's virus. So if we recognize that, eventually

1193
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 5: this thing is going to explode because the Sun's going

1194
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 5: to incinerate it, just like every star does. We got

1195
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: to get the hell off and fucking excuse me, four

1196
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 5: billion years? Why wait till then? Why not start now

1197
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 5: working together? To work together? We have to stop being

1198
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 5: self destructive and destructive to others. That's the essence of

1199
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 5: mental health, you know, is to work to together somehow

1200
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 5: to share resources and symbiotically behave, not parasitically behave.

1201
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's I guess everything is

1202
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of big business and politics at the end of

1203
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: the day, and we all know the pharmaceutical and what

1204
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: their actual main goal is. Do you think that's maybe

1205
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: why it hasn't become a priority to have someone like

1206
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: that around your work environments because they obviously stress people out.

1207
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: No matter what you do. I don't care if you

1208
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: work at Amazon and you work at McDonald's, it's still

1209
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: going to be stressful in some way to mess with

1210
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: your ability to work in those environments.

1211
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: But it's even more stressful now. And you mentioned big business.

1212
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: Why hasn't it happened yet? Why isn't it working? Because

1213
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 5: you know, I sometimes I feel like I don't know

1214
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 5: Will Smith at the end of that movie I am Legend,

1215
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 5: And you know, it feels sisaphian. It feels like I'm

1216
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 5: spitting in the wind because no matter if I do,

1217
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: if we litheated the water of New York City, they

1218
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 5: would still be problems because government is not paying people enough,

1219
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: because government that we have elected are beholdened to profits,

1220
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: not people anymore. And since the seventies when I was born,

1221
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 5: there's a chart that's very telling, cost of living has skyrocketing. Okay, healthcare, education, housing,

1222
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 5: like this, all right? Median income since then, since seventy six,

1223
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 5: that year when I was born, has been pretty flat.

1224
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: Black median income has been down relatively so there's a

1225
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: huge gap as a result, people have covering that up,

1226
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: mortgaging this, gigging themselves out. But the only thing that's

1227
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 5: been up with that is campaign financing. That if we

1228
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 5: reform that and we actually have leaders reaching across the aisle,

1229
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 5: not going left wing right wing, but cockpit style, you know,

1230
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 5: having drinks across you know, after work and whatnot, connecting

1231
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 5: with each other like we are right, people from all

1232
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: different backgrounds talking for the betterment of society. That's how

1233
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 5: we get problems solved. I think. So I say it's

1234
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 5: always campaign finance first. Then it's tax reform to close

1235
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 5: that loop because we're being fleeced labor. This is about

1236
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: anti labor. You know, if I say my system that

1237
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 5: I have published on lotos, lithium and addiction treatment, it's

1238
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 5: anti racist, No, it's anti it's anti capitalist, pig it's

1239
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 5: anti hyper extremist capitalist. We're making money, but we can

1240
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 5: do well and good. That's what we've stopped doing in

1241
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 5: this country.

1242
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: Do you think that we should we need to change

1243
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: because you know, since forever, it's like everybody's on this

1244
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: same type of schedule. You work five days a week,

1245
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: eight hours a day, and this you know, you go

1246
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: to school the kids go to school and you look

1247
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: up and you realize that you don't really spend a

1248
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: lot of time with family. You don't spend a lot

1249
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: of time, you know, with your children and things like that.

1250
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: Do you think that, like you said, capitalist having to

1251
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: work and not really making money, So you're saying that

1252
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: we need to really change everything about the way people live,

1253
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: the way people make money.

1254
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: Because you work.

1255
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: For forty years and you retire, you only enjoy ten

1256
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: years of your retirement, really fifteen years of your retirement,

1257
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: and then you die. Do you think that that's something

1258
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: that we need to look deep in and said, listen,

1259
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: we're doing this wrong. We've been on this system for

1260
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: so long, our parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and it's like

1261
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with that. You shouldn't be spending more

1262
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: time working for someone than you are with your family

1263
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: and raising your children.

1264
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 5: I think work is important. Ford used to say, it's

1265
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: love and work. That's what life is about. It's purpose

1266
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 5: and pleasure the way I put it. But it doesn't

1267
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 5: have to be abusive, Okay, we can have I love

1268
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: going to work. I love mondays, love it, and I

1269
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 5: think it's because I love the meaning behind what I do,

1270
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 5: whether I'm talking to someone who was homeless two days ago,

1271
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 5: whether I'm talking to you know, someone who has the

1272
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 5: ability to really make change financially for a lot of people.

1273
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: But it's the abuse part that I hope ends. You know,

1274
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 5: in Europe they've done it pretty well for a long time.

1275
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 5: You know, they've paid people a living wage, they've given

1276
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: people enough vacation, and they are labor sensitive. Good ideas

1277
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 5: still come out of there. But do we do we

1278
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: need the extremism here where we have all you know,

1279
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 5: all this wealth continuing to be concentrated and deifying it.

1280
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 5: Then you know that's eventually. I don't think millionaires and

1281
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 5: billionaires want to walk around engated communities, do they? Are

1282
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 5: you protected like that?

1283
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 4: Right?

1284
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: I think if I'm hurting someone like that, that's that's

1285
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 5: hurting me.

1286
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: Well. I think one of the few good things that

1287
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: did well, not good that came from COVID, but a

1288
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: realization we had was that that our work day don't

1289
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: really get much done. People were working for three hours

1290
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: at home during COVID and we're getting just as much

1291
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: done as that eight hour day, and we're probably in

1292
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: a better mood. Of course, it was COVID, everyone was

1293
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: feeling the way they felt, but you did have some

1294
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: more time to find yourself, I would say, because that

1295
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: going to the office five days a week. I think companies,

1296
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: now that New York is opening back, are doing limited offices.

1297
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: We don't even need this. This is kind of crazy.

1298
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Come in twice a week. We'll get shit done that way.

1299
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: And yet I'll tell you it is in the room

1300
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 5: where it happens, not the zoom where it happens. Yes,

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Speaker 5: right right. I like being here, I like meeting you guys.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we have a good connection and energy here.

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Speaker 5: And yet I think a hybrid approach is what we're

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Speaker 5: headed for a few days a week. Men and women

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Speaker 5: still need to hunt. They still get a thrill out

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Speaker 5: of putting on the wing tips and going to work

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Speaker 5: rather than staying in you know, striped sweatpants.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're comfortable, They're very comfortable. Bought them during COVID.

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Speaker 1: We spoke yesterday briefly about treating ADHD and how that's

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Speaker 1: you know, for the last how many years has been going?

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Speaker 1: I want to ask, not only would children, but with adults.

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Speaker 1: I find people especially around my age, are now have

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Speaker 1: adult add and I don't know if that's because half

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Speaker 1: of our life was in front of a screen. It

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Speaker 1: could be it, But I did want to get in

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Speaker 1: to that and how we treat it, not only with

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Speaker 1: children but with adults.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a really good question. Because while

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Speaker 5: I'm against, you know, the overuse of benzos, because they're

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Speaker 5: toxic medicines. It's alcohol and a pill. It reduces rem sleep,

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Speaker 5: it causes depression and Worson's anxiety. It's kind of like

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Speaker 5: an opiate for mental health. I am pro the use

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Speaker 5: of stimulants responsibly, all right, And this is a place

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Speaker 5: where in general, women and people of color have been underdiagnosed, undertreated.

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Speaker 5: You know, back in the day, you had a classroom

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Speaker 5: full of kids. I went to public school in New York, diverse.

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Speaker 5: If a white kid was misbehaving, well, let's talk to

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Speaker 5: his parents. It must be something wrong. Black kids misbehaving,

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Speaker 5: you're just a bad kid. You're going to principal's office. Okay.

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Speaker 5: If I'm misbehaving, I'm getting beaten later, basically, But these

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Speaker 5: were the differences. And if a girl has ADHD at

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Speaker 5: that time, she's just spacing out, sitting quietly in class.

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Speaker 5: So no one knows until she gets an F so

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Speaker 5: once we properly address Okay, are you having serious problems

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Speaker 5: with efficiency, right things, taking longer, losing things, procrastination, disorganization,

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Speaker 5: you know, using nicotine, caffeine, sugar excessively. Then let's go

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Speaker 5: and do some further testing on it. And if we

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Speaker 5: find that there is you know, a high degree of

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 5: score on the ASRS scale. That's a Harvard Stanford Adult

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Speaker 5: ADHD Self Report scale. I use it all the time.

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Speaker 5: You look at that, and if you find you're scoring high, okay,

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Speaker 5: let's treat it. Let's use a touch of adderall in

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Speaker 5: the morning with breakfast, and I say, pills and skills.

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: I have this system called oldies. It's a different channel here.

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 5: But occupation, love, diet, intoxication, exercise, sleep. If we adjust

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01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 5: these categories and we give you the right medicine, we

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: see better health, health outcomes and better income into your pocket.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we've partially done in our program down

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Speaker 5: on Avenue D. In fact, Mayor Atoms Mayor Elect Atoms

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Speaker 5: mentioned this. He said half of Riker's more has dyslexia

1351
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 5: learning disability ADHD. If we treat this early, not only

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 5: do we get more productive young people of color. But

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01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: we have reduction in impulsivity and crime later because then

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 5: they don't feel frustrated to medicate that they don't feel

1355
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 5: obliged to medicate that frustration of not being in college,

1356
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 5: not having the right job, having to join, you know,

1357
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: unscrupulous gangs and such. There is an immense potential that

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Speaker 5: we haven't unlocked to just help our kids. Instead, we

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 5: use hammers. Right, You think investing in bigger sledge hammers

1360
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 5: like whack them all, that's helping our society. No, it's

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01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: it's inflaming those same people. We need to make the

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Speaker 5: wood more hospitable, so the nails they want to stay

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Speaker 5: in it.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that, especially in the black community,

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that therapy and seeing a therapists

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Speaker 2: gets such a negative condensation?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we can go back to Tuskegee and

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Speaker 5: such right, in terms of mistrust and medicine and betrayal

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Speaker 5: of black population. Frankly, I'll tell you that medicine has

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Speaker 5: messed with everybody. We've injected people with cancer and that

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Speaker 5: they we still have cancer centers named after that doctor. Okay, crazy,

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Speaker 5: I know, crazy right? Sorry, I wasn't me but you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we still do this now, right.

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Speaker 5: Chemotherapy is basically a nuclear attack on all of your cells.

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01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 5: We manage with the with the medicine we have to

1376
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 5: try and learn. COVID is a massive experiment in the

1377
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 5: terms in terms of who's doing it well right now.

1378
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 5: But I think that the bigger mistrust is how black

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 5: people have been treated, right. It's it's harder to gain

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01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 5: trust when medicine has screwed you too, and you're supposed

1381
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 5: to be pure and you know, sacred and secular, and

1382
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 5: yet you know, in this country, it's harder, you know,

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 5: to treat African Americans because of the legacy of slavery,

1384
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 5: right and how it's been used to improve the bottom line.

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Speaker 5: When I talk with, you know, by African American patients,

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 5: I'm trying to spend even more time with them. I'm

1387
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Speaker 5: trying to not press if they are not ready, it's okay,

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 5: I think sometimes just planting the seed and letting them

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Speaker 5: know that you're not going to push them to an

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Speaker 5: uncomfortable place. Even though right now African American vaccination rates

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Speaker 5: are lower. You know, all I can do is provide

1392
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 5: love and encouragement as to when they're ready. But I

1393
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: beg them, sometimes with tears in my eyes, sometimes with

1394
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 5: their children next to them, like please take care of

1395
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 5: her because she's going to get exposed, this young girl.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't vaccinate her, you know, I'll say

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Speaker 5: that I was begging you to, but I'll treat her anyway.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, lithium as an immune mineral is

1399
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Speaker 5: showing immense promise because, like I said before, it reduces suicide. Right,

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Speaker 5: it reduces cell death is really what it does. It

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 5: keeps you from not killing yourself, your own cells from

1402
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 5: killing themselves. And the cause of much of COVID death

1403
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 5: is the cytokind storm. That's your own red lights, your fire,

1404
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: lighting up your whole body, drowning in your own spit

1405
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 5: in your lungs. It reduces that. So of the three

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Speaker 5: hundred patients that I've treated at that center, zero hospitalization,

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Speaker 5: zero deaths.

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Speaker 1: Well, crazy, you brought up a rikers, and I did

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Speaker 1: want to ask you. Of course, the prison system is

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Speaker 1: not to rehabilitate. It's literally to jail a human being. Yeah,

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: where do you see And again it's an obvious question,

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: but where do you see the prison system has been wrong?

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: Specifically with mental health and how to abilitate a person

1414
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: like that, because not everyone's doing life. They're coming back

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Speaker 1: into society and will probably fall back into that system

1416
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: because they're not treated correctly in prison. And how do

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: you feel about people that say, all right, how come

1418
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: the prisoners are getting this free treatment and this free

1419
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: attention instead of some of the citizens that are going

1420
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: out every day paying their taxes and still don't get

1421
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to have the mental health attention that they need.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think those are both that points right. But

1423
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 5: because if we started to, and we should, it's just

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 5: a waste of money to house someone there and worsen

1425
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 5: their perception of society and let them come out even angrier.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 5: I mean, that's not there's no point to that. That's

1427
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 5: just just might as well burn money. So at the

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Speaker 5: very least, can we give them a significant library, Can

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 5: we give them significant resources? Can we not harm them

1430
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 5: medically in there? Can we do that much and just

1431
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 5: say okay, you're here, we want you to leave with

1432
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 5: as much time as possible in your life to use

1433
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 5: it for the betterment of yourself and others, and not

1434
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 5: make it. We're not going to make it Shangri law.

1435
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 5: It's not a Norwegia, not going to be in Norwegian prison.

1436
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Speaker 5: But we also, I think I gotta talk about the

1437
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 5: universal or lack of universal health care in this country.

1438
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 5: In this country, your health care is basically, don't get

1439
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 5: sick and if you do, dive fast.

1440
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1441
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 5: So we invest in you know, sugar subsidies and get

1442
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 5: everyone to a place where they can't see their toes

1443
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 5: and then we pay a lot of money to doctors

1444
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 5: to rotor root their cardiovascular system. I mean, this is

1445
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 5: ridiculous to make money abusing people from both ends, rather

1446
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 5: than say, let's have a tax system where everyone keeps

1447
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 5: every dollar. Okay, it's transparent in Congress, everyone's wearing their

1448
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 5: pins like Nascar, all right, everyone has limited campaign financing.

1449
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 5: Everyone keeps that every single dollar from their paycheck. But

1450
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 5: stuff is taxed more. So soda is tax more than water.

1451
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 5: Haygoovian taxation, bat taxation, sin taxes. That'll work. We tax

1452
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 5: the hell out of guns and ammo. We don't need,

1453
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 5: you know, to ban anything at all. And I think

1454
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 5: if you want to just have the proper documentation right

1455
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 5: and the proper background.

1456
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: On that, how do you as a as a doctor.

1457
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, sitting and talking with your patients, how

1458
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: does that affect you and your and your mental health?

1459
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: Like taking in this energy and these and these these

1460
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: stories and trying to help people with their mental health,

1461
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: how does that affect you as a doctor's.

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 5: It goes You know, I think a lot of doctors

1463
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 5: have been suffering these days. You know me, I don't

1464
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 5: put myself in that in that kind of harms way right.

1465
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 5: God bless the the ICU docs, the nurses and the

1466
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 5: people that have shown up work and sometimes feel hopeless

1467
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 5: with the treatments they provided. Seeing nothing but death is

1468
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 5: feeling powerless and not even being able to treat what

1469
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 5: they know how to treat well because it's all crowded

1470
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 5: with COVID. So I treat doctors myself, and I feel

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 5: their pain. I've really it's been such a tough time,

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 5: matic time for them. And we're basically skilled labor. Okay,

1473
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 5: at this point, we're not you know what we used

1474
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 5: to be in terms of I don't know, island hopping,

1475
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 5: moguls or anything. Food is medicine. Food is medicine comes

1476
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 5: from Hippocrates. Okay, that's way back, absolutely true, And we

1477
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 5: are poisoning. The Western diet is pleasure ridden. The major

1478
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 5: food group that kids get is tomatoes from ketchup, as

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 5: my daughter calls it. Kepich loves that stuff and I

1480
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 5: do too. I do love French fries too, and that's

1481
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: the major vegetable that they get. Yeah, okay, beef is

1482
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 5: way too cheap in this country, and it's not symbiotic.

1483
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 5: It's parasitic to feed off of cows like this. In

1484
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 5: my land, it's there. Holy. I still like a good steak,

1485
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 5: but it has to be rare and grass fed. I

1486
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 5: mean medium rare, but rarely taken, if at all. So

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 5: the point is, I think we have to go with

1488
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 5: a symbiotic diet long term. The things I tell my

1489
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 5: patients three liters of water and as many as much

1490
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 5: beans and greens as you can take every day. Go

1491
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 5: vegan throughout the day. At night, if you want, sparingly,

1492
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 5: go with meat. But absolutely, you know, Game Changers, great movie.

1493
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 5: You guys have probably seen it. I think it should

1494
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 5: be awarded because it may single handedly freaking think the

1495
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 5: Mets shouldn't should change their diet. Look at these people,

1496
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 5: the most injured team in baseball. One of my dreams

1497
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 5: is to take over. Let me take over your health

1498
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 5: and you will not be injured. As a team, we

1499
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 5: will head to the promised Land, that's the playoffs. So

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 5: I'm all for that as a performance component. I mean,

1501
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 5: I'm forty five. I can still I can still go

1502
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: with anyone on the court, and I ride a fixed

1503
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 5: gear up and down the spine of Manhattan every day.

1504
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 5: So I'm for you there. I think it's hard for

1505
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: people to go the extremest way. You're full, But if

1506
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 5: you talk to and say we love you. This is

1507
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 5: not about shaming you for your weight. This is never

1508
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 5: about that. This is about love and encouragement. We want

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 5: you to be capable, more capable than ever. Good to yourself.

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 5: Introduce these things. I never tell people what to not eat.

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 5: Just add more greens, throw it in the smoothie, throw

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 5: it in the pasta sauce, go with chickpeapasta, take the

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 5: mix it up hybrid style. It'll be better for the environment,

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,520
Speaker 5: It'll be better for your microbiome. That's what was screaming

1515
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 5: when you went vegan. You had die off of bacteria

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: throughout your gut. So be more regular, you know, oddly

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: talk about bowel movements a lot with my patients. I

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 5: want them to be very regular because that means food

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01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 5: is not staying and then causing inflammation in your body.

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have anything else if there's other points.

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01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: This is like we went through to meet him about

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01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: my father.

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 5: Shit. This is a gift for you guys. I hope

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 5: you enjoy it. This is that water I was talking

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 5: about third element water?

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: Oh great, out of thank you so much.

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice bottle glass too.

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 1: And is there a website or a social.

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 5: Third element water? Uh? And a website as well. You know,

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01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 5: there are a lot of different ways to get micro

1531
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 5: does lithium into your diet if you if you look

1532
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 5: that term up, you'll find me g A d h uh.

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 5: You know, my my publicist, Echo Bayden, great guy. Uh,

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 5: hip hop Officinado and art Ficinado has has been instrumental

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,879
Speaker 5: in setting this up. So I want to give him

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01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 5: props and thank you guys. Just you guys are some

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 5: of the you know, uh leaders I think in thought

1538
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 5: and in connecting with the gen Z audience right now,

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 5: that's terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Douc.

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 5: I know, so your shoulders, you know, uh don't look big,

1542
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 5: but they're strong enough to handle.

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01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: This well, Doug. I appreciate it.

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01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: This was a really, really dope conversation. It opened up

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: a lot of things to me. You know, I'm definitely

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: glad you bought. I'm a water guy. I drink a

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: lot of water.

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 5: That's one in the world.

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01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: Definitely glad you about that.

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: I know you said the website for the water, But

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,919
Speaker 1: where can they reach you specifically on socials?

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they can. I think googling me is

1553
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 5: probably ideal. If you look up doctor gad, doctor God, whatever,

1554
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 5: g A d H, you'll see me. There's only one

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 5: and low dose lithium. I think that's a better thing

1556
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 5: to look up because I want to be really less

1557
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: about plugging me or any company than the solutions to help. Again,

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: I'm not biting the hand that feeds me. I say,

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: if you're happy with your current treatment regimen, great, I

1560
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 5: think this can only help kind of like fluoride and

1561
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 5: good dental hygiene. But you know, I just want to

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 5: massage out the arthritis of the hand that feeds me.

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 3: Get it.

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Dot, appreciate you

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: for coming man, Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: Willian now