1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Welcome in Play Travis buck Sexton Show Thursday edition. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: We have got a lot to hit with you today. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Let me give you a little roadmap of where we're headed. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: At twelve thirty, we're going to be joined by Ryan 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Gorman from our WFLA affiliate down in Tampa. I broadcast 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: from there a couple of weeks ago. We want to 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: get an update on exactly what happened with Adahlia, how 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: much major issues are out there. We want to make 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: sure we keep everyone apprized of what happened with that hurricane. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: As continued aftermath cleanup has begun. Julie Kelly gonna join 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: us at one o'clock. She has been the best, I 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: would say, anywhere in the media at covering the January 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: sixth trials. Where are we? What does she think about 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: the idea of a March fourth trial date in Washington, 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: d C. Next year for Trump? And then at two 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Thirtyan Miller who now writes at OutKick. I found him 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: because he did such a fabulous job attacking from a 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: data and analytics perspective, the idea that your kids should 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: be wearing masks, the idea that masks made sense anywhere. 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: He continues to do phenomenal work. He lives in La 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: so he is on arguably the front lines of the 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: masking insanity. Still, we will discuss all of that with him. 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: That is where we are headed. But there are several 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: stories that are out there that I think deserve to 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: be examined in some way. Governor Brian Kemp in Georgia, 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: this is a mess buck, whether you whether anybody wants 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: to admit it or not, the state of Georgia is 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: a must win for Republicans. 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: It is a red state. 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: I still believe seven out of eight of the statewide 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: elections in twenty twenty two went to the Republican Party. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: Herschel Walker lost a narrow election to the Reverend Rafael Warnock. 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: We saw Brian camp smoke Stacy Abrams. He wins by 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: seven and a half percentage points. That was the margin 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: of victory for most Republicans running statewide in Georgia. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: It was not particularly close. 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: Right now, if you look at the betting odds, Republicans 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: are substantial underdogs to win the state of Georgia in 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Regardless of who the nominee is, let 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: me start hitting the alarm bell here. We cannot win 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election without winning Georgia. So you 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: can look at Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, you can look at 46 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: all those states and try to come up with math. 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: The Republicans are going to lose the twenty twenty four 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: election if Georgia is not back in the Red team camp, 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: and right now it would not be. 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: You see, Trump released I don't know how many videos 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: on truth Social yesterday. We have some of them to 52 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: share with the audience today. But he went on a 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: truth Social Trump video tirade. It was an avalanche of 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: Trump and one of them was a whole video about 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: how he won Georgia by so much and so clearly. 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what the strategy is. I just 58 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: know that we're being told that he actually won Georgia 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. 60 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Okay, this is important, Buck, because that's not true. Okay, 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: everybody out there listening to us right now, Trump lost Georgia. 62 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: And if you don't believe Trump lost Georgia, what happened 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: that Suddenly in twenty twenty two, everybody wins. The congressional 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: candidates outperformed Trump. The Senate candidates, many of them outperformed 65 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Trump before the re election. The runoff, Georgia is a 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: must win. And if your argument is I actually won 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, that makes it less likely that you 68 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: are going to win in my opinion, in twenty twenty four. 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: This is a must win state. This is the number 70 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: one must win state. I would say buck because it 71 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: should never have even been in contention in my opinion, 72 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: and it must be locked down if we're going to 73 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: win in twenty four. 74 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: Well, there's clearly a sensitivity in MAGA corridors about Georgia. 75 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: I mean Trump specifically. That's the one that I think 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: more than any other, has become an area of political 77 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: angst because it's not just the twenty twenty election. 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: It's three Senate seats now as. 79 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, three Senate seats that people tie to actions involving Trump, 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: whether you can agree or disagree with it. But the 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: argument is herschel Walker was a Trump back candidate who 82 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: lost when everybody else won. The two other candidates, what 83 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: was it? A Purdue law and Sonny Perdue. I believe, yes, 84 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: that they would have won if it hadn't been all 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: the infighting after twenty twenty. Now, again, you can agree 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: or disagree with this, but it's a mess. Okay, it's 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: a mess. We had three Senate seats that Republicans should 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: have won and a presidential election in that state that 89 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: Republicans should have won and it didn't happen. And if 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna say, well they cheated, put that aside for 91 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: a second. Don't really want to get into that right 92 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: in this moment in time. Well, then what's the plan 93 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: the next time around? I just want to I want 94 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: to go on the record right now. Anyone who just 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: tells you the next time around, whether it's a Senate seat, 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: a presidential election, or whatever, they cheated in Georgia again, 97 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna need them to show me what they're doing 98 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: to stop the cheating, or prove to me what the 99 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: cheating is and not just claim that this is what 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: happened there. Because we have it is a must win state, 101 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: it's a must win for Republicans, and it's a should 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: win for Republicans as well. Right, this isn't trying to 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: pull something like Wisconsin the numbers are tough for Republicans. Michigan, 104 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: the numbers are tough for Republicans. Georgia should be a 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: win David Perdue. For people out there who have forgotten 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: about this. 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty election, David Perdue won by almost 108 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: two points. Now, this is a stupid law. My humble 109 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: opinion as always that Georgia has that you have to 110 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: get over fifty percent of the vote because Libertarians came 111 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: in and grabbed a percent or two. But David Perdue 112 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: beat John Ossoff in the twenty twenty election by nearly 113 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand votes, that's the Republican candidate. And then 114 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: in the runoff he ended up getting two hundred and 115 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: twenty thousand less votes and lost a narrow vote to Osoff. 116 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Who then won that seat. 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: And then on the other side, I'm pulling that up 118 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: right now because I want to remember exactly what happened 119 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: was that they had the runoff, right with Leffler and 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Warnock is the one that ended up winning that winning 121 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: that race, and so the whole thing was a mess. 122 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: But if they didn't have that fifty percent line, every 123 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: other Republican candidate would have won. 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: So Look, you. 125 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Can live in many different parts of the country and 126 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: not pay attention to Georgia. This is a state I 127 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: think I know pretty well. I've spent a lot of 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: time down there. Trump's got issues in Georgia. And if 129 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: you listen to this show, you know that I have said, 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: if Trump were making the completely rational decision, he would 131 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: go to Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, and say, 132 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: you have done a hell of a job. You kicked 133 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: everybody's ass. Remember Trump endorsed against him in the in 134 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: the Republican primary, and Brian Camp won by fifty points 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: in the Republican Let me repeat that for everybody out there. 136 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump waded in to the twenty twenty two Republican 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: governor primary and Brian Kemp beat Trump's preferred candidate. I 138 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: think it was Purdue by fifty points. Buck fifty points. 139 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: Trump is right now. If you look at the at 140 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: the betting markets and pay attention to them, Democrats are 141 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: favored to win in twenty twenty four in Georgia. This 142 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: is a state where there are major issues. If Republicans 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: lose Georgia, that's it, fat Lady Sung. There's almost no 144 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: math that you can win the twenty twenty four election 145 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: if you lose Georgia, and certainly Buck as you know, 146 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: Georgia is connected to other states, because if you lose Georgia, 147 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: it probably means that North Carolina is going to be close. 148 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: It probably means that Arizona is gonna we know, gonna 149 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: be super close. But the math doesn't add up. You're 150 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: not gonna win in the Midwest and lose Georgia. It 151 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: just I would be stunned beyond belief. You can flag 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: this and on November the eighth or whatever if it 153 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: ends up happening, so people can call in and say 154 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: you were one hundred percent wrong, and I'll own it. 155 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: I don't see any. 156 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Pathway where you lose Georgia, win in the Midwest and 157 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: the math adds up to win the twenty twenty four election. 158 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: So this is a big mess for Republicans. I mean, 159 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers. Herschel Walker got one point. 160 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: Nine million votes in twenty twenty two. 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: Warnock got one point nine four to six, so one 162 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: by about forty thousand votes, give or take. But Kemp 163 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: got two point one million votes, and you look at 164 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: the margin. He won comfortably against Stacy Abrams. Now I 165 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: understand there's an inclination to say, oh, but that's because 166 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Stacy Abrams was so bad. 167 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't believe that. 168 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: It's likely that the way the tickets split here was 169 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: that there are all these people who just decided they 170 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: were going to vote. You know that basically, if they 171 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: had thought that Herscha Walker was a better candidate, there 172 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: were plenty of Republicans who could have turned out and 173 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: voted for him. We should have won that Senate seed. Yeah, 174 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: it's the bottom line. We should have won the Senen 175 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: seed and we didn't win that Senen seed. And you know, 176 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: I think this is why there's such a sensitivity around 177 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: around Georgia. And I know that people are saying, well, 178 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: we have to look at we have to look at 179 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: what happened, look at the elections, look at everything else. 180 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: All right, Well, show me exactly what the thing is 181 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: that's going to be different this time around, Because if 182 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: the claim is that there were some malfeasans, fine, show 183 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: me the malfeasance and tell me how we're going to 184 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: avoid it this time around. And if there's going to 185 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: be five different people who are going to email me 186 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: in the next ten minutes with five different reasons of 187 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: what the malfeasance is. That's a problem everybody, right, it's 188 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: it's we got to all know what the one thing 189 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: is if we're going to fix it, or if it's 190 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: a couple of things. But we have to agree on 191 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: whatever it may be, and whether that's an election strategy issue, 192 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: a messaging issue, a something with the machine means, something 193 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: with the registration, something with whatever. We got to know 194 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: what it is. We can't just all assume that it 195 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: was there were some mouthfeasans. 196 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: That we all we all know there was. 197 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: It was a problem. I mean, I saw the Trump video. 198 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 3: Trump says he won by a lot. Yeah, that's the claim. 199 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: That's as it yesterday. I would just ask someone tell 200 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: me how we won by a lot. 201 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 202 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, every Republican Bud Herschel won by 203 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: seven and a half or eight points. Those are that's 204 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: winning by a lot. Brian Kemp won by a lot. 205 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: What changed? And I do think Georgia, by the way, 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: I think Kemp deserves credit for this. Georgia has strengthened 207 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: their overall voting parameters. 208 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: I think twenty twenty. 209 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: Two in Georgia was the safest and most secure election 210 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: out there. I do think, and I've said this for 211 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: a long time, that Democrats stretched and had a rigged 212 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: election in many ways in twenty twenty. Okay, my point 213 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: on that is every other Republicans still won in Georgia 214 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. I just hit you with the numbers 215 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: on Perdue one in the get and again, they have 216 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: the rule that you have to get over fifty percent 217 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: of the vote, which I think is a stupid rule. 218 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: That's why they've had the runoffs. But Purdue won by 219 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand votes roughly over John Ossoff in the 220 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: exact same election that Trump lost by eleven thousand. Why 221 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: did Purdue get over one hundred thousand more votes than Trump. 222 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: It's because Trump has got issues in Georgia and continuing 223 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: to say I won Georgia by a lot and not 224 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: acknowledging that Brian Kemp is super popular and that he 225 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: kicked Trump's preferred candidate's ass in the Republican primary. 226 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: They're major issues here. 227 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: And again, if you can't win Georgia, then the twenty 228 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: twenty four math doesn't add up. And right now Republicans 229 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: are an underdog in Georgia. In the betting markets out there, 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: say I don't believe it. I okay, go put money down. 231 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: You can win a lot of money back. You can 232 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: bet on the prediction markets. Here we actually we have 233 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: Trump on this. He put this out on truth Social 234 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: This is what we were mentioning at the start. Here, 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: it's clipped twenty two play it. Oh that's camp. I'm sorry. 236 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: We'll come back to Trump here in just a moment. 237 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: You can hear him talking about twenty twenty, and you 238 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: know there's also a conversation to be had. 239 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, Trump's going to be the nominee. 240 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: It looks like right, I think we're all That's why 241 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: we're talking Trump's strategy to win, now, folks, that's really 242 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: the underlying reality here. How do we get Trump to 243 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: be able to win? The focus on twenty twenty. I 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: don't know if you can make a case that's going 245 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: to be particularly helpful in that state going forward. 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And Trump 273 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: put out a video about this yesterday, which is on 274 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: why it's on our minds. 275 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: He put out a lot Did you see all the videos? 276 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: There were a lot of videos. 277 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: He's calling out individual Fox News contributors for being terrible, 278 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: probably the worst. You know, he's really laying into someone. 279 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, man, I don't know. I don't want 280 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: to get on Santa Claus's naughty list here, so anyway, 281 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: that's not gonna be fun. But here he is talking 282 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: about Georgia. We'll let you hear it from the president himself. 283 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Play it. 284 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: I easily won the Great State of Georgia in twenty sixteen, 285 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: did a fantastic job as president for Georgia and the 286 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: entire USA. Received ten million more votes than I got 287 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: nationwide in twenty sixteen, got by far the most votes 288 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: in history for a sitting president, but shockingly lost Georgia. 289 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: All this despite winning nearby Alabama and South Carolina in 290 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: record setting landslides. Why did Georgia officials agreed to sign 291 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: that horrible one sided consent degree nobody to this day 292 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: has figured that out. Does anybody really believe I lost Georgia? 293 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: Because I don't. 294 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: So this is a he's you know, we're at the 295 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: he's talking about when he wants to talk about things 296 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: that are signed and rules that are changed. 297 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, let's dig into that because the game 298 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: was rigged. We all know the game was rigged in 299 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. That's not the question. 300 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: But when he says I don't believe I lost it, 301 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: I just sit here and I go, Okay, well, what 302 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: are we doing to make sure it's different this time? 303 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: That's all That's that's the heart of this right to 304 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: say that he you want you know, I don't believe 305 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: I lost it as a way of saying I want it. 306 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: I won. So what where? What are we going to do? 307 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: He lost Georgia? The numbers are there, right. Georgia is 308 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: a very different state than Alabama in terms of the electorate. 309 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Georgia is a very different state than South Carolina. Georgia 310 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: has a super high black population in Atlanta and overall 311 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: all black voters do not like Trump, and look, especially 312 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: black women. 313 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. 314 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine if you're like I think 315 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: I won New Hampshire. Like, look what happened in Vermont. 316 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: Vermont is like a lovely communist state. Like it's not close. 317 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that it's geographically next door. 318 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 319 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: And the other thing is and this. I went and 320 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: looked at all the data on Herschel, the people who 321 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: are turning against Trump in twenty twenty. This is why 322 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: we've we've been hammering this home. In particular, if you 323 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: go look at the surrounding counties outside of Fulton County. 324 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: Take Fulton County, which is where Atlanta is off the table. 325 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 2: Go look at where the Atlanta Braves Stadium is, Gwenett County. 326 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Go look at all these different you know, surrounding counties, 327 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: Cobb County, I think, sorry, where the Atlanta Braves Stadium is. 328 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: All these different areas surrounding that's where he's losing. And 329 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: that's why he lost. It's not even the black vote. 330 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: That's why Herschel lost. And this is a big deal. 331 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: You can't win if you keep arguing that you actually 332 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: won when you didn't. I gotta tell you my pillow 333 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: is killing it right now. My Pillows collection of towels 334 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: made with USA cotton latest products set on sale. Great towels, 335 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: very absorbent, well made, long lasting, and soft. It's what 336 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: you want in towels in your home. Set comes with 337 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: two bath, two hand towels, two washcloths now at fifty 338 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: percent off just thirty nine ninety nine. 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Slee, Travis and Buck Sexton 349 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: on the front lines of truth. Come back in Clay 350 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way, we're gonna open 351 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: up phone lines if you guys want to weigh in. 352 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: I think Georgia is battleground number one. As we look 353 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: forward for twenty twenty four, Trump has made it an 354 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: issue putting out videos about the fact he says he 355 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: won eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight 356 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: two Georgians only. Georgians only. You are on the ground 357 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: there right now. What do you see as it pertains 358 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: to Trump Brian Kemp, the dynamics afoot in the Peach State. 359 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: We will discuss that more. We'll take some of your 360 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: calls during the course of the program. But we go 361 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: down to the state of Florida. Adahia came through, did 362 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: a great deal of damage. Still trying to figure out 363 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: exactly what the full uh rampage of that storm, the 364 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: cost is going to be. We go down to Tampa 365 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: to our affiliate WFLA. 366 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: There, Ryan Gorman is with us. Ryan, you're on the ground. 367 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: I know Tampa a little bit south of where this 368 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: storm initially came ashore, but there has been flooding all 369 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: over the place. What can you tell us about the 370 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: impact of this storm Tampa region and beyond. 371 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: Well, once again, Tampa dodged a bullet. It really is 372 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 5: incredible because we have had quite a few big storms 373 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 5: that have rolled through the state of Florida over the 374 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 5: past couple of years, and at one point or another, 375 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 5: as those storms were approaching the state of Florida, it 376 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 5: looked like there's a chance there could be a direct 377 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: hit on the Tampa Bay area, going back to Hurricane 378 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: Irma and then also Ian last year and now this 379 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: one Adelia. And even with this storm staying over one 380 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 5: hundred miles to the west of the immediate Tampa Bay 381 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: area and the coastline here, he still probably saw some 382 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: of the images some of the flooding that we had 383 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: in the Tampa Bay area, including there were people who 384 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: were on a raft just rolling down Bajor Boulevard behind CNN. 385 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 5: They were doing a live hit. So the flooding was 386 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: significant for how far away the storm was. And that 387 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: just goes to show if one day, and we hope 388 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 5: this won't be the case, but if one day a 389 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: storm really does brush up much closer to the Tampa 390 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 5: Bay area, we're going to be in some serious trouble here. 391 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: Ran it's Buck, thanks for being with us from up 392 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: in Tampa on WFLA. Tell us if you would the 393 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: immediate recovery efforts. Obviously the governor many officials involved with 394 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: Governor Ron de Santis, the buck stops with him. What 395 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: can you tell us about those immediate efforts, what's underway 396 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: and how do you think it has been handled from 397 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: a disaster relief standpoint so far well. 398 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 5: Look sadly because we've been hit by so many hurricanes 399 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 5: over the years, and especially over the past couple of years, 400 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 5: the hurricane response here in the state's almost like a 401 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: very well oiled machine. And that isn't just a Governor 402 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 5: Ron de Santis thing. That was also a Governor Rick 403 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: Scott thing. They just have a lot of experience at 404 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: handling this. So when the storm is approaching, everybody from 405 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 5: the state level to the local level, even the federal level, 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 5: they know what to do at this point. So I 407 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 5: think it's been handled fine. I got to give a 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 5: lot of credit to the National Hurricane Center for their 409 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: tracking of this storm, because we've had a couple recently. 410 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: Hurricane Michael rapidly intensified when from a tropical storm to 411 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: a Category five devastating the Panhandle. That seemed to kind 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 5: of come out of nowhere. That intensification. You had irma 413 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 5: there were many different tracks. It was gonna hit Miami, 414 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 5: than the middle of the state, than Tampa, and it 415 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: wound up coming ashore south of US and then Ian 416 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: took that right turn into Fort Myers. So the tracks 417 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: recently have been a little all over the place. The 418 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: storms have been hard to pinpoint this one. If you 419 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 5: go back and look at the last couple of days, 420 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: I mean they nailed the track to the Big Bend area, 421 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: and I think the storm hitting that region, you never 422 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 5: want to see a storm like that hit anywhere. But 423 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 5: that's a much less populated part of the state. So again, 424 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: if it had hit the Tampa Bay area're talking about 425 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 5: much more widespread devastation. If it had been a directed 426 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 5: on Tallahassee, that would have been a big deal too. 427 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 5: So sadly there are people who are without homes, there 428 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 5: are businesses that will be destroyed, They'll have to be rebuilt. 429 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: We'll rally around the Big Bend area like we always 430 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: do here in Florida, but hitting that area in particular, 431 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: I think you're going to see a lot less devastation 432 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: than you might have seen with a storm of this 433 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 5: magnitude in a more populated part of the state. 434 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: Ryan, fantastic stuff. Will you let us know if we 435 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: can help out anybody in certainly the Tampa region or beyond. 436 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: And we appreciate you coming on and give us an update. 437 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 438 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: That's WFLA Ryan Gorman does fantastic work down there. We 439 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: appreciate all the affiliate buck. I just broadcast live from there, 440 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: did a book signing in Tampa. We love our listeners 441 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: in that area. As we went down to Fort Myers. 442 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: We will in the wake of the devastating hurricane they 443 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: had last year, we will help as best we can 444 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: as we get more and more info coming out of 445 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: that hurricane and everything that it did. But we wanted 446 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: to update you make sure that we touch base on that. 447 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: Now I'm just responding. I just sent a tweet. During 448 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: the last commercial break, Anthony reached out. He said Clay 449 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: doesn't like Trump. He would prefer a different candidate. He 450 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: won't say it though, he's afraid of his golden goose, 451 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: would stop laying golden eggs. Needs the cash to keep 452 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: flowing so he could buy his kids more Nikes. Well 453 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: this is I think. 454 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: You could afford playing the Nikes. I get a lot. 455 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I hate the brag, as everyone listening to 456 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: the show knows. 457 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever gonna have to worry about 458 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: the cost of shoes for my kids. 459 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: And I will say I've got growing kids. 460 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: The amount of shoes that I have to buy period 461 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: because their feet grows so fast. As we're starting with 462 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: the fifteen to twelve year old and the eight year old, 463 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: I will say it is frustrating how often I have 464 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 2: to buy shoes. And my eight year old definitely has 465 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: got a lot of hand me downs. I'm lucky I 466 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: have three boys. But let me say this, My goal 467 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: is to win, Okay, and I know Bucks goal is 468 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: to win. 469 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: And you would never say to Nick Saban. If Nick 470 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Saban came. 471 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: In and he said we're about to have college football kickoff, 472 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: Buck Trump mentioned the Alabama and he's got a lot 473 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: of supporters there. We may have the third debate down there. 474 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: I bet there's a good chance I'll be down there 475 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: in person. Nick Saban didn't come out after Alabama went 476 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: ten to two last year and say we actually won 477 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: the game at Tennessee and we actually won the game 478 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: at LSU because his team lost both games. The only 479 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: way you can get better in sports is by acknowledging 480 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: when you didn't perform at your highest level. And Trump's 481 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty campaign lost Georgia. I don't think Trump 482 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: can win in twenty twenty four by claiming that he 483 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: won in twenty twenty. 484 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. 485 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: And the most consequential aspect of the Fanny willis campaign 486 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: against Trump, which I think is illegitimate. I think that 487 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: she has brought charges that are illegitimate. I don't know 488 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: anybody who's been more transparent about this and analyzing it 489 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: than you and me. 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: Buck. It's a garbage case doesn't mean it's not consequential. 491 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: It's political hit, political hit. 492 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: And the political hit is more consequential in Georgia, where 493 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: Trump already has issues. Trump's not gonna win DC, He's 494 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: gonna win Florida, He's not gonna win New York. The 495 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: true impact of these charges is going to be felt 496 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: in different jurisdictions. But the only battleground jurisdiction where there 497 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: are charges being brought against Trump is Atlanta, Georgia. I 498 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: don't think that's a consequence. Democrats can do the math too. 499 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: They know if they win Georgia, they win the presidency. 500 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: Now I think Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan, the Midwest, 501 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: the big ten states are incredibly important, but they only 502 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: matter if Republicans win Georgia. Georgia and Arizona have to 503 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: be back in the Red Team camp in order for 504 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: the Midwest to matter. 505 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: I also think there's some memory of because I remember 506 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: it because I was paying very close attention during COVID. 507 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: Trump called out Camp when he wanted to reopen in 508 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty, said he opposed it. Yep, Trump said, 509 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: don't open. They're opening too soon. I told Camp, don't reopen. 510 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: That's a fact. Google it, check it out. Don't take 511 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: my word for it. Google it and see it. Because 512 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: on the videos. If there were videos about you know, 513 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: COVID and how we did an amazing job and Trump 514 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 3: was talking about that, now you can argue Trump an 515 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: amazing job overall, and that's that's all. That's fine, I 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: get it right. But for Georgia specifically, there's a memory 517 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: of what's going on there politically, and it's I think 518 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: it's a primary channa. I'd love to hear from some 519 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: from some Georgia residents about this. I have a feeling 520 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: there'll be some that think that it's a problem. Others 521 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: that think that Trump is going to win Bigley in 522 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, no problem. Eight hundred two eight two 523 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: two eight a two on the on those lines. But 524 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: I mean your your point about you know, Nick Saban, 525 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: who is of course coaching my beloved Alabama team that 526 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: I love so much and along with my Auburn team, 527 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: which I love very much as well. 528 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: So I get to I get lost. You just lost 529 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: the state of Alabama. By the way, Wait, isn't that 530 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: is not half of it about give or tell you? You can't. 531 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: You can't claim to love Alabama and Auburn. That's not allowed. 532 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: That's like having two wives, which which might work some states, 533 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: most states doesn't. 534 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: So anyway, I think that I would love to have 535 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: it where we could have a conversation as a party 536 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: about Look, we're already talking about Trump as the nominee, 537 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: right which is not yet decided, and. 538 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: People, everyone who emails or calls in. 539 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: And says, you know, why aren't you talking about it's 540 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: going to be another candidate. I always say it'll be 541 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: another candidate. But the guy's up by like fifty points 542 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: right now, so it. 543 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Looks like a very serious possibility. 544 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: I would like to think that we could have a 545 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: talk as a party, as a movement, as you know 546 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: my case, a two time Trump voter, as to what 547 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: the best way forward is, because if the only if 548 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: the way we're going to do this one, I'll put 549 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: this prediction out there. If the way that we're going 550 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 3: to run Trump campaign three point zero is anybody who 551 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: has ideas about how they think something could be better 552 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: for Trump or there's a smarter approach needs to shut 553 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: up because the eight D chess is underway. It's going 554 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: to be a very sad, very sad November twenty twenty four, 555 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: just telling you, if everyone who has ideas, if everyone 556 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: who thinks that Trump could adjust in some way is 557 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: going to be shut down or shot down because they're 558 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: not going along with the genius plan. 559 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a very foolish approach. 560 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: Trump needs to say Brian Kim's done a really good 561 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: job as governor. We have not gotten along all the time, 562 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: but he has done a really good job. Because if 563 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't repair relationships in Georgia, there is a massive 564 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: issue there. And I don't believe Trump can win Georgia 565 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: and be anti Brian Kemp as the governor. Brian Kemp 566 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: is the most popular political figure in the state of Georgia. Again, 567 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: if you're a diehard Trump person, explain to me how 568 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: Brian Kemp beat Trump's hand pick governor candidate by fifty points, 569 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: and how Trump's hand picked Senate candidate, Herschel Walker was 570 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: the only Republican candidate who lost in Georgia last year. 571 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people, whether you want to 572 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: admit it or not, there are a lot of people 573 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: in Georgia, and I hate to admit it. Buck knows 574 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: this because of the work that I did for herschel Walker. 575 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: I didn't think it would happen. 576 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: Clay went to the mat for Team herschel went to that. 577 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: I was like, Clay, Wow, I mean multiple live events 578 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: we had him on Out Came a ton, We had 579 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: him on this show a ton. When people say you 580 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: don't like Trump, it's like really because you you took 581 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: your own time and went all in on Trump's guy 582 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: to help him in Georgia. So yes, that would be 583 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: a weird thing to do, which a lot of people 584 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: didn't do. By the way, Brian Kip didn't didn't appear 585 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: with Hershel Walker for the entire campaign. There are a 586 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: lot of people in those ring counties around Atlanta who 587 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: voted for every Republican but herschel That's what the math shows. 588 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: They split their tickets. 589 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: Math also shows a lot of those same people made 590 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: that same decision in twenty twenty. Why because they have 591 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: an issue with Trump. It has to be repaired. 592 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: We shall see. I think it's possible. I think it 593 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: can happen. I'm an optimist, everybody. I'm so excited for that. 594 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: They are se yours an optimist on Yeah, good new 595 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Trump's gonna put Trump's gonna pull it out. 596 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: But we just got to give him a little bit 597 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: of coaching along the way, give the movement a little 598 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: bit of a little bit of guidance along the way 599 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: for Trump. 600 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: And I think things can work. I really do. I'm 601 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: a believer. 602 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see whether that ends up being the case 603 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: or not. 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That's a discussion 631 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: that is absolutely worth worth having here on the show. 632 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: And we've got some other things we're gonna be hitting. 633 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, I'll every line. Let let's get 634 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: to it. Joe in Georgia. Everyone's gonna be in Georgia. 635 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: It's only taking Georgia calls. What's up, Joe? 636 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 6: Hi, guys, Hey, I am in Acworth, Georgia. I'm twenty 637 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 6: minutes away from Truest. I'm on the north side. I 638 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 6: can be at the airport from my place in forty 639 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 6: five minutes, so I am real close, but not there. 640 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 6: And I to this day I think I know that 641 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 6: he won. There's just I know. 642 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: I keep going, what do you mean, Joe, you're talking 643 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: about Trump twenty twenty? You know that he won? 644 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 6: I mean myself, I still believe it. I watched the vote, 645 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 6: went to bed. He was you know, we had to 646 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 6: worry about the cab County, where Hank Johnson is, you know, 647 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 6: Hank Johnson's hometown. So there's no telling what might happen there. 648 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: Uh but let me ask you, Let me ask you this. 649 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: Why did twenty twenty two every Republican one, not only 650 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: one won by seven or more points? Stacy Abrams. They 651 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: spent money like crazy for Stacy Abrams. Stacy Abrams ran around, 652 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 2: as you well know, and said that she actually won 653 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, and then she got her ass kicked 654 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Every Republican one, I think, frankly, 655 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: it's fair to say a landslide like seven eight nine points, 656 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: that's a landslide in a state that's supposed to be 657 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: toss up. Except for Herschel, why did that happen? 658 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: We'd love the job that Camp has done. A lot 659 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 6: of us are very and I'm one of them. I 660 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 6: didn't vote for him in the primary, and I liked 661 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 6: the gay because of the way he handled all the 662 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 6: concerns in the vote in twenty but as far and. 663 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: Hey, but he won by the way. 664 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: You voted for Purdue, but he won by fifty Trump said, 665 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: go vote for Purdue, right, And. 666 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 6: No, No, I didn't vote for Purdue. I didn't like 667 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 6: Purdue in there. 668 00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 5: I didn't. 669 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 6: I knew Purdue wasn't gonna win. But I'm talking about 670 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 6: in the primary. When it came down to Purdue, he 671 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 6: just he just he was, He's done. You know, he's 672 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: already a politician. Uh, Herschel. I thought Herschel was gonna win. 673 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: Me too. 674 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 6: Don't trust that vote. I don't trust that vote. 675 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: But so the question I would have for everybody out 676 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: there is, you don't trust He just said he didn't 677 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: trust the Herschel vote total. 678 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Okay, why would the Herschel vote total be wrong? 679 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: And every other statewide election there is clearly Republican dominance 680 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: because every Republican. 681 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: Won except for the one most associated with Trump in 682 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 3: that elector. 683 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: That is what happened. 684 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's what happened, right, So we can ask why, 685 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: but that is what happened. So you would have to 686 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: argue they only changed one of their election vote totals 687 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. 688 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't add up.