1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: much for joining us today. We are so excited to 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: be back. How are you doing today, Susan. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, busy bee. You know, I was out 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: blowing leaves again today, there's some left. 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Christmas is almost here, Susan. You can't be still doing laves. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: I didn't want stragglers around because then in the spring 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: I get you know. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Can I just tell you the colors are just starting here? 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Really? 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Austin we don't get much color. But really, 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: I'll send you a picture. It's really pretty. But I've 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: been trying to get ready for I can't believe Christmas 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: is a week away. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: I can't believe how fast the years are going. Okay, 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: I know the years. My ex husband turned sixty nine 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: this month. That means I'm right after them in March. 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my god. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: You know what says in sixty nine turns the seventy 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: so quick. But just remember what we always say, aging 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: is just the number. Your birthday is just the number. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: It's a birthday full of surprises, all right. So should 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: we get into today? We're actually Kathy all about aging today. 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I know what a great segue. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Let's dive in. Okay, the first one is processing change, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: what's important at your age? I think change is the 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: hardest part. The mirror doesn't lie. 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about physical changes? Yes, yes, okay. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: I remember I called you that day and said, what 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: when did this happen? My back looked like a sharp pei. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: I was trying to want to dress in the back. 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: I go, I have a sharp pet. Well when did 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: that happen? 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: So is are you saying aging is the most important thing, 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: your physical aging at your age? 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're talking about aging. 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, Air's a lot more to aging. 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: Than yes, yes, yes, true, But that's the first thing 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: that came to mind. How I feel and how I look, 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: and how what I can still do and what I 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: struggle to do. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: So okay, so I'm I'm with you on some of that. 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I look in the mirror every day, and 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, after seventy I wake up and say, oh, 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: that didn't hurt yesterday. You know, lotion, motion is lotion. 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: So I keep moving. But you know what I'm especially 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: at holiday time, I've been thinking and I don't mean 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to sound more because you know me, I'm not. I'm 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: so happy that I'm alive and I enjoy every day. However, 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about as I was putting out things 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: for the holidays, which things, what kind of things I 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: want to pass along? And that's changed for me because 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: when you're younger, or at least when I was younger, 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: I spent many years collecting, many years building china, silver, 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: amassing bed linens, you know, all the furniture, all the stuff. 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: It comes down to stuff that we amass and lately 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: and it's sort of hyper noticeable now because of the holidays. 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, what do I want my legacy to be? 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: What do I want my kids to remember? What things, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: what holiday traditions, What things in my life are important 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: for me to pass along. And just the other day 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I was going through some things because Kyle and Candy 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: are taking a piece of furniture that I have, because 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, I don't need all this furniture. And this 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: is part of aging. You start realizing what's really important 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: in life. And so in this, in this secretary that 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm giving them, there's my grandfather, taught chaucer at Smith College, 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: who is very well known in his time, and I 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: have all this memorabilia that I had to take out 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: of this desk. And so my grandfather's textbook on Jeffrey 71 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Chaucer that was his specialty teaching Chaucer, and his book 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: with all his annotations are in there. My husband's mug 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: from the ship he served on in the Navy, the 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: USS Canopus, all these things that had so much meaning 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: that if I were to die tomorrow. 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Your kids would appreciate them. 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: That's what is part is what I'm realizing is aging now. Well, 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: part of what I'm beginning to think that I never 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: thought before is part of aging, is imparting to my 80 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: children the important things that were in my life and 81 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: my grandparents' life, because otherwise, you know, if I kick 82 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the bucket tomorrow, my kids would not know. These are 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: my grandfather, who was a famous man in his time. 84 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: I have his Shakespeare books with his annotations, his Chaucer book, 85 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: like all these things that I. 86 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Think might have a great interest to you. Is what 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: Well, and it may be to my children because it 89 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: represents family, it represents the passage of time. 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: So do you want to tell them about it? Do 91 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: you want to? 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: There's no question, I absolutely I'm sharing with my kids, 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: the Christmas ornaments where they came from, which. 94 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Ones had been a couple of years ago. 95 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: And I'm realizing that those things that are that's a 96 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: form of change. Yes, we physically change, but part of 97 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: the change is I won't be here forever. And I said, 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: it's not morbid, but I want my kids to have 99 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: an understanding of the history of our lives, the traditions, 100 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: and this time of year, I'm feeling it quite strongly. 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh what about give. 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: It and relationships? Let's talk about that. Friendships that have 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: changed that I go over in my mind. Wow, I 104 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: haven't seen so and so and it maybe it was 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: my choice. But friends that we're still friends, but we 106 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: don't hang out or call each other anymore. And they 107 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: go back from grade school. You know, I just missed 108 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: two reunions this fall, and I was so bummed about it, 109 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: and I had weddings on both days. However, why didn't 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: everybody get together and see how things change? 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Well, so there's two things. I'm hearing that friendships change, 112 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: but also the composition of you will of the friendship's change. 113 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: But I'm also hearing I think that volumes of friends 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: aren't as important. They aren't to me quality friends. 115 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: Are employed to a billion people, right, so do we. 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: Because we've lived long lives, so we have lots of 117 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: people that are come in to our lives. You know 118 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: that old expression to be. 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: Honest with you, Kathy, the way I think changed. Tell 120 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: me I used to think a certain way, and I'm 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: still pretty carefree. That's that's who I am. And I'm 122 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: a dreamer and I think all positivity. However, some things 123 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: I would think more about that aren't as important. 124 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Are you talking about with your friends or yourself? 125 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: With life? With everything? 126 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I just I agree with that. I think 127 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: that's aging. We become easier, we're not so rigid and 128 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: most things except for you cleaning your house. But and 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: that's never you'll be You'll be from the casket. 130 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: My personality will never that. 131 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: But I know, well you can. I've noticed that my friendships, 132 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: I now choose who I want to spend time with. 133 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Well that was my point. Yes, I chose not to 134 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: be my negative people. And it took a long time. 135 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Not even that it's just I there's friend there's negative. 136 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 2: They steal your energy, Like I can't be around people 137 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: like that. 138 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, But I'm talking about friends 139 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: that I genuinely like. I'm putting the positives bin on this, 140 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: which is I love these people. We had great times together. 141 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: But now if I talk to them once a year, 142 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: like this year, I'm setting out Christmas cards for the 143 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: first time in probably ten years, they'll get a Christmas card. 144 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: But I don't feel the need to engage with every 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: friend on a regular basis. I have certain friends you 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: and Nancy, which is so interesting because you are two 147 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: of my newest friends. But I care so deep well 148 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: that you are. We lived a lot of life before 149 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: we met each other, but I care deeply about both 150 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: of you, and we all know secrets and deep thoughts 151 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: about each other. And those are friendships I nurture because 152 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: I want them in my life. Now, I'm not as 153 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: interested in having volumes of friends as I am in 154 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: having deep relationships with fewer people. 155 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, I don't think I was ever interested 156 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: in having volumes of friends, because you can only I'm 157 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: not an octopus. I can't do it all, you. 158 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Know, And then you friends at different level suitsan I'm well, 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: no granted you, and so that circle for me has 160 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: become smaller, and I have friends I golf with. I 161 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: have friends that I play, but I don't see them 162 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't call them like I check 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: in with you. And some of my friends here. 164 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: A lot of my friends live out of state. Now, 165 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: you know, you have to plan a visit, Like I 166 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: want to go see Lori. She has a beach house here. 167 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: She's here in the summer and I see her often. 168 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: But then now she's in Charlestown on the river. We 169 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: got a boat. When are you coming? 170 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: You're bringing me when you do, go, Laurie, I'm coming 171 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: with her. Just f YI. You said you can't change 172 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: your personality. I disagree with that. Well, I can tell 173 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: you I used to be incredibly rigid. I I really was. 174 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: Things had to be done a certain way. I've said 175 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: this too many times. When mister Wright comes into my life, 176 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: he is going to get the best version of me. Why, 177 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: because I've learned. I've learned my personality is not I 178 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,479 Speaker 1: don't have to have things a certain way. My mindset 179 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: is much more fluid. Okay, that's not going to work. 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I might be disappointed. I'm over it. Let's move on 181 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to the next thing. Where when I was younger, you know, 182 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: the old expression do you want to be right or 183 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: do you want to be happy? I wanted to be 184 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: right now I want to be happy. So oh, well, 185 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: that's not going to work. We'll do it. 186 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: It doesn't have anything to do with like controlling the situation. 187 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,479 Speaker 1: It has to do with aging. I realize what's important 188 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: for me. It's just not important. It's so much of 189 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: what as a younger person I obsessed about and dwelled on. 190 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: You know what, It's just not that important. And I 191 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: wish you know, I've always said to you, I wish 192 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: that youth is wasted on the young if. 193 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: If I knew then what I know. 194 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Now, And so I think. I think that's one of 195 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: the joys of getting older. I think when I look 196 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: back at my grandparents, for example, we used to do 197 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: fun things like cook and bake and work in her garden. 198 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: She taught me. My grandmother taught me all about daffodils. 199 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: My other grandmother taught me how to crochet and knit. 200 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I was like, now, I realized that, you know, the 201 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: quality time spent with people. 202 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Is farm And how about how things changed too, like 203 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: being on my nana's apron string, making homemade spaghettis, and 204 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: the dough and the flower and all that. You wouldn't 205 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: find somebody doing that today unless you're in Italy. Of course, 206 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think so. 207 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: My grandmother I put aprons on her we bake. My 208 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: point is, I think as we get older, we learn 209 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: that the relationships with our family, our children, are good friends. 210 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: That's what sustains us not wasting time on superfluous things 211 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: that just don't matter, at least for me. That's what 212 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: I have found. 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: And watching the young people now and what they do 214 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: or don't do, and compared to what we did and 215 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: didn't do well. 216 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: But the world's are different places. And the technology we've 217 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: talked about this AI technology, cell phones, everything is at 218 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: your fingertips. You don't have to work as hard. And 219 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: in fact, I think as I age, I see interpersonal 220 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: relationships not as strong because people are online. It's a text, 221 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: it's not an in person visit. 222 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: Not real life. 223 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: It's well it's real life, well it is. 224 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: But getting out in the world, like I noticed, people 225 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: can't hold great conversations because they're tied up with their 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: phones or they especially young people, they don't know how 227 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: to have a conversation. 228 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: But you know, what you know what you can. 229 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: Text one or email something. 230 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: This is like people, you realize we're getting to the 231 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: age now, Susan, where when people were like why would 232 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: I buy that car? You know with the XEL, Why 233 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: would I do that? I got a horse and buggy 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: and it gets me there just fine. It's called progress. 235 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: It's called evolution, and jump on the car. Okay, what 236 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: about what about I'm a few years older than you 237 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: and we touched on this. What about changes to your body? 238 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the saggy sharpei back necessari 239 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: why not? 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: That's the part I've never had that my life. 241 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking like, do you wake up with eggs 242 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: and pains in your back? Your knees? I am, and 243 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: my fingers. I used to love, Susan. I used to 244 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: love I have a jewelry box full of rings. As 245 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: everyone knows, I do love myself some jewelry here. But 246 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I used to love rings and I wore them all 247 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: the time. I still have rings, silver rings that I 248 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: were in high school. But now my hands aren't as 249 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: pretty as they used to be because they are arthritic. 250 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: But you know what, it's all about the way you 251 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: choose to look at it. I am grateful these hands work. 252 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I can needle point, I can play sports. They're not 253 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: pretty to look at. And that's one of another benefit 254 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: of aging. 255 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: You can't button something, you can't do those little tasks 256 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: that open the jewelry. I'm always doing. 257 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: That, but I remember, yes, all those are true. 258 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: You can you have that fixed. You can't have it fixed. 259 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: No, I mean you can have artificial joints put in. 260 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I try to hide my hands now 261 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think my hands and the way they 262 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: look reflect my energy, my personality. 263 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: And well, it's like, well, one good thing, I will say. 264 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: I love having my senior discount. 265 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Oh, of course, we're all going to the movies, Lottie, 266 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: and we're going and we're gotting cheap. 267 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: I want to see Wicket the second half and lot 268 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: of goes. I got our. 269 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Senior discal Have you seen the new movie I Hate You? 270 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. 271 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: All right, it's going to be next. 272 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Saturday, next time. Right. This is a serious one though. Yeah, 273 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: we all talk, not just you and me. I think 274 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: most people our age talk about being seen, being visible. 275 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: When did you first notice the world started treating you differently? 276 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: Due to your age. 277 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: I haven't. I think somebody people might think to be 278 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: more polite, because if not, I'll holler at them. I 279 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: still do that, like at the wah wah when you 280 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: don't hold the door open for an elderly person, not me, 281 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: the older person that was coming in, and I'm like, 282 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: that's rude. But I don't feel like I'm being treated 283 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: different because I guess of my personality. I'm alive, I'm outspoken. 284 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't get I. 285 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Think I think it's a continuum. I think it's a spectrum. 286 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I think you're right. You and I are out there. 287 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: We have fun, we say our mind, we were energetic, 288 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: we get out and do physical things. So I think 289 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: it's a little bit. Uh, it's gonna happen a little 290 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: later for us. But I've noticed, particularly, I would say 291 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 1: in the dating world, I'm a little bit more invisible 292 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: now than I was a dating world. Well, that's as 293 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: we age. That's one of the things. 294 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: It's the number. Once again, that number when you're like, 295 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: for instance, on a dating app, if you put that 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: number down, nobody's gonna look for the top number. They're 297 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: gonna look for the bottom number. Well, that's right, But 298 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: if they knew us, it would be a totally different right. 299 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: But I do think I do feel I know Kathy 300 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: and invisible is an oxymoron. I just you know that's 301 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: not happening. But I do feel that I have to 302 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: work harder. Let me say this, I have to work 303 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: harder to be seen in a general way in the 304 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: dating world professionally. You know, I'm retired. 305 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Harder, How like, what could you possibly do? You mean, 306 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: not dating app or in life both? 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Although I'm not on dating apps right now, how. 308 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Would you work harder in walking around life? 309 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh? I can't. I want to bookmark dating apps because 310 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm coming right back to that to put your finger 311 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: on your nose. In life, I'm saying as I as 312 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: I've aged, i have to work a little bit harder. 313 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out and kayak. I'm those kinds 314 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: of things and physical changes to be seen. It's a 315 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: little more difficult. I'm not going to go hang out 316 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: at a bar like I would have when well, that's aging. 317 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: If I were younger, it would feel more appropriate more. 318 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: I feel that the window closes a little bit about 319 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: things that you can reasonably do. 320 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: And for instance, I like to dance, as you know, 321 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: and for me to go dancing, it's impossible. There's nothing 322 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: for people I look like, you know, right, an old 323 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: head coming into it. 324 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what I'm saying. As we age, our 325 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: opportunities look a little bit different. 326 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: Some that part well, a nightclub for seniors. 327 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, Oh god, that sounds horrible. 328 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Dance club. 329 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always wanted to do that. We're going to 330 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: and we're going, okay, But I want to get into 331 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: this because you and I on Golden Bachelor, one me 332 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: on Paradise. Many of the young ones have coupled up. 333 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: That's clear. They found people, they're there together. But I 334 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: feel I don't feel it's clear and obvious that the 335 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: golden men have had if we're just talking to dating fo, 336 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: they've had so many more. And why is that? I'm 337 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: going to go with the simplest reason is old women 338 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: get into men's dms because women are younger. Men go 339 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: after younger women. But I feel like men as they 340 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know, they don't and they don't so in dating 341 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I think, plus there's more single women after a certain age, 342 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: so you know, the odds are against us. But I 343 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: think men work longer you see men. How many of 344 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: the women were retired in our season and how many 345 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: of the men were retired. Of course they were younger, 346 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: but a lot of those men you. 347 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: Can't even count because they're younger. 348 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Well, but they're in. 349 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: My fifties, late fifties, early sixties. Yeah, everybody's still career. 350 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: So do you think other work? Do you think other 351 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: than dating because of the ease of technology of women 352 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: sliding into men's dms. Other than that, do you think 353 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: that golden men are treated differently than golden women? 354 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: M as far as dating or as far as just 355 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: in general, golden men are treated different. 356 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Are looked at differently? Are treated Are they treated differently? 357 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: It depends on how they're carrying themselves. 358 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: And that is the point I think that I think I. 359 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: Can be all really quick and put the moo moo 360 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 2: on and lay on the couch in the afternoon and 361 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: taking nap and cook and have the kids over once 362 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: in a while, never go out and enjoy life. You 363 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: have to push yourself. You gotta get it well. 364 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I'm going to take the 365 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the old Susan approach and say 366 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: both because I think golden men that let themselves go 367 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: you know me, I call them. They used to guys. 368 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: They used to play tennis, they used to swim, they 369 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: used to bicycles, and now they sit on the sofa 370 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: drinking beer. But women do it too. 371 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: A lot of things that I used to be able 372 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: to do that I can't. I don't feel safe. Like 373 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: downhill skiing. I'll never get on skis again. Oh I 374 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: will bro my bones break too bad? 375 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: Well can we do? Because wait? 376 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: Can we kept up with it? 377 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Can we? No? I have not ski in three years. 378 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: Here's the three years. We're talking three years? 379 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I thought, here's the difference. Where before I 380 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: would go down double black diamonds. I never did moguls 381 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: and go down easy black. 382 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: Is a double black diamond mogul No, no, no, no diamond. 383 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: They're on blues too. But I'm saying to you, I 384 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: that is a choice, right, I'm not stupid. I'll go 385 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: out and ski, but I'll stick to blues and maybe 386 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: some double blues in you know, advanced intermediate. But that's 387 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: my point is get aging is not just a figment 388 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: of our imaginations. There are physical changes, there are mental changes, 389 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: like I can't remember I can't remember yesterday's news, but 390 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: I think the important thing is and I think you 391 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: and I do such a good job of working to 392 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: be the best version of ourselves at the stage of 393 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: life we're in, and I wish that more people would 394 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: work hard to be the best version of themselves aims than. 395 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Of letting themselves go and feeling depressed or invisible. You 396 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: know that word that came out. 397 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: Right, And that's where I was going. I think sometimes 398 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: we are our own worst enemies. We let ourselves go 399 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and then on ourselves and we wonder why we're invisible. Well, 400 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: you're invisible because you've given up on yourself. And I 401 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: really wish that people would invest as we age. You 402 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: don't have to invest in your children as much, you 403 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: don't have to invest in a career, but we should 404 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: be investing in ourselves. 405 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: But it's hard sometimes, especially when you don't have a 406 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: lot of friends or people to go do something with 407 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: to encourage you, whether it's go to the gym or 408 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: that I just found out there was a You go 409 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: and you pay seventy five dollars and you'll have a 410 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: cheeseboard or whatever, and you pick out your grapes and 411 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: they will make the wine for you. Go back, I 412 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: think a year later or whatever it is, to pick 413 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: up your bottle of wine. But it was something that 414 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: I would enjoy. You're tasting wine, you're tasting grapes, you're 415 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: learning about it. 416 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: You know what you're saying, Susan, you're saying I was 417 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: just going to say. You're saying right there, never stop learning, 418 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: never stop enjoying life. And I think that's what aging. 419 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: That's why you and I are holding the banner for 420 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: changing the definition of aging, because we can't stop. 421 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: Packy's getting somebody to go do it with you. Well, 422 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: people were not going to go do that on their own. 423 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It would be more fun 424 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: to have a girlfriend with you. 425 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think as we age sometimes, you know, I've noticed, 426 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, most of my friends are a lot younger 427 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: than I am, because the people that are my age 428 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: are used to people. But I think that engaging and 429 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: doing these part of some and trying new things. I 430 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: think sometimes we are our own worst enemies because we say, oh, 431 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: I know. My sister will say occasionally I'm old, and 432 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: I jump down her throat every time she says, wait. 433 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 2: A minute, Kathy. Is funny you're saying that because when 434 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: you came back this year, you said, wow, I saw 435 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: so many changes in my sister. I did just this year. 436 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: It was And you know what, she's eleven months older 437 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: than I am, and I see her. She gets angry 438 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: when I say it, but I you know, she's happy 439 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: and good for her. Everyone else to do it makes 440 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: them happy. But I think I guess what I'm saying 441 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: is you can't have it both ways. You can't say 442 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: aging sucks if you allow yourself to age. There's enough 443 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: things we can't control, right, we can't control our boots, 444 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: hang into our knees unless you have, you know, a breastleft. 445 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: We can't we can do physically, we can change ourselves. 446 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: We can't help it. If I can't help the arthritis, right, 447 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: I can't help it, That's what it is. But I 448 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: can sure as heck, make sure I'm getting out being 449 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: as active and meeting new people and doing things. 450 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: And that's what keells you. Young. Other people don't have that. 451 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: They never did that, that wasn't their thing. So for 452 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: you to tell them to do that and that keeps 453 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: them better, healthier active, They're not active people do you 454 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So they're never going to grasp 455 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: that at this point. 456 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: I disagree. I think we always have personal choice. I 457 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: think you know, people were talking. A friend of mine 458 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: was talking the other day about, you know, it's coming 459 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: to the end of the year, and here we go 460 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: with New York resolutions, which I never make because and 461 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: she was saying, so many people say at this time 462 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: of the. 463 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: Year, I'm going to get it. 464 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the gym in the new year. 465 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat this pound of cookies and fudge now, 466 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna die. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know what, 467 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: everyone can change, including you and me. By the way, 468 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: we can make a decision right now to change, to 469 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: have a more positive outlook, to take up a new hobby, 470 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: to get out. 471 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: And meet people, like to play more golf. 472 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you and I need to move closer together, 473 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: so because you and I are about the same level 474 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: of golf. But do you know what I'm saying, it's 475 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: up to us. So I'm beginning to bristle. I guess 476 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: is where I'm going with this At people saying aging sucks. 477 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Aging sucks if you let it suck. If you let 478 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: it take you down like anything else it will. 479 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm not letting it take me down. You still think 480 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: it sucks. It sucks. I forget things. I'm more forgetful. 481 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: I'm not as as quick as I used to be. 482 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big time multitest. 483 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Look at the yes, but look at the knowledge we have. 484 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: Look at the things we don't have to worry about anymore. 485 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: I mean raising children. We don't have to worry about retirement. 486 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: We still worry about them, though. 487 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: No, but they're not our responsibility. We talked about that earlier. 488 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: We don't have to worry if we're going to have 489 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: a roof over our head next year. We don't have 490 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: to worry if we're going to get fired from our jobs. 491 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: We have the grace of us well. 492 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 2: That huge. 493 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm saying is aging ain't all bad. 494 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: It ain't that great either. 495 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: Listen to you miss negativity and I'm not you know me, 496 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm miss positivity. 497 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: But aging, I'm fighting it every step of the way. 498 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm not throwing in the towel by any sort. I'm 499 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: not fun. It takes a little bit of fun. 500 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Out well, But you know what, life isn't all about 501 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: fun either. 502 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: I don't swim in that ocean toil. The lifeguard would blow. 503 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Now I think there's sharks out there. I still go 504 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: out with life. 505 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe you just. 506 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: Said aren't as as much. 507 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Okay, but real quickly, wait a second, real quickly, that's 508 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: so funny you said that. I was sinking the other 509 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: night walking down the street going into New York City, 510 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: walking when I was younger. Whatever. Now it's like when 511 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: I go to the grocery store. You know, I walk with, 512 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I walk with and I'm powerful, don't you know, Like 513 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit more about those things. Yeah, 514 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: I might fall or somebody might come, and. 515 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I could run again. Like 516 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: I was like so bad there for a while, like, 517 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: oh my god if I had to run. And now 518 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, I moved myself around a little bit. I 519 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: started exercising a little bit. 520 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, by the way says in the New Year 521 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: your news resolution that starts today before the new year, 522 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: get moving. 523 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Stop. But that's not exercise. 524 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: You're right weight. 525 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: Bearing And for me, Kathy, and You'll probably say that's 526 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: an excuse, and everybody listening, do you make excuses like 527 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: I do because I can't find the time my schedule 528 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: every day and people have said to me quite a 529 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: few actually, you know now that you don't have as 530 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: much going on, you're not in the salon full time, Like, 531 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: what do you do with yourself every day? Crazy? 532 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: Big? Can I tell you? I'm going to tell the 533 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: world what Susan does. First of all, she blows leaves 534 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: every day of the year. That's number one. Number two, 535 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: she's cleaning the floor that she cleaned ten minutes ago. 536 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: And the third thing she does that irritates the tar 537 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: out of me. What when we're talking on the phone, 538 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Susan is shopping on the internet. I can hear the 539 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: click of her fingers and I. 540 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: Know looking for Christmas presents right now? 541 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah, that's excuse said something. 542 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: I want to change. Stop overspending for Christmas. 543 00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: You know what? 544 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Cut before we talk about that for a minute. How 545 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: many people out there going to freaking debt because of 546 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: how I used to be, Like I was the mom 547 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: that would wrap like if I bought the boys a sweatsuit, 548 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: well the top would go in one box in the 549 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: bottom and the other they would have piles to the sky. 550 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: So it looked like a whole lot. And that never 551 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: left me. Now I started with my grandchildren. I'm like, whoa, 552 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: things are expenses. 553 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to chalk this up to aging, and you're 554 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I've 555 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: realized all that stuff is not important. I mean, I 556 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: bought my grandchildren gifts and I asked their parents, you know, 557 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: what they would like to have. But I'm much more 558 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: about experiences now. I am much more about spend a. Oh. 559 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think she knows, but I'm taking with my 560 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: daughter in law my granddaughter. It made me cry to 561 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: the Nutcracker because I did that with my grandmother and 562 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: I took my children, and now I'm getting to take 563 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: my granddaughter. 564 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: Is that going to be one of her Christmas? 565 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: Is that going to be one of her Christmas presents? 566 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if I remember. 567 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: I know, Bella, I'm taking to Paris this year, as 568 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: you know. 569 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: So that's you know what, that's Christmas? 570 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: Prestager, is there trendy Mimi? Can I get this? Can 571 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: I mostly close clone? 572 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: You know? 573 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: A little necklace? 574 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: I know they got parents for that. I'm saying, as 575 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: I age, this whole thing has been about aging. My 576 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: thing is not buying stuff for my time. 577 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: It's time. 578 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: It is quality time with my grandchildren. 579 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: A memory, making a memory right, so when you're gone, 580 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: they'll think back and go, I remember when we did. 581 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: This, right, And and that's part of aging too. That's 582 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: another benefit you again for. 583 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Me inside of Agent today we did the band Side's 584 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: another podcast. Maybe we'll touch. 585 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: The good side, getting out and getting physical activity, trying 586 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: a new hobbies. 587 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: Like people when Texas, you don't understand, you're gonna walk today, 588 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: I gotta walk today, don't like. Yeah, she's always impressed, 589 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: except she had me talking going uphill on the way home. 590 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: You guys, try to talk and you know miss questionnaire 591 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: over here, that's all she does this question. So you 592 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: you're constantly answering a question. So you're talking. I couldn't breathe. 593 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: And you guys, you want to go further. 594 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Do you know why I ask questions because if you're asked, 595 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: your you're curious, you're learning, and that's how you stem 596 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: the aging process. And impressed. 597 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: Cut me a break one day, I just don't ask 598 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: any questions. To shoot the ship. Oh my goodness, we 599 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: can just go on forever. 600 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: But we can't because coming I have to go bake. 601 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: She's gonna bake again. You better bring me that egg nog. 602 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: All right? 603 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: All right? But that said, that does it for today's episode. 604 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed it and send us a note, 605 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: send us a topic, and trust me, we'll cover it. 606 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: That's the end of today's Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. 607 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: Thank you all for joining us, and be sure to 608 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming 609 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: out every week that you don't want to miss. We're 610 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: going to do more on aging because I, for one, 611 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: plan to never age. 612 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: She's never going to live to one hundred. I'll be 613 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: long going good. I go first, I want to cry. 614 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: Make sure he keeps submitting your questions or your comments 615 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: to us, and you know what to do. Go to 616 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, or you can hit 617 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: us up in social at Bachelor Happy Hour. 618 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app, 619 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Until next time, 620 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: have a great week.