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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. We hope you've had a

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Speaker 1: great week. I have had a very enjoyable week because Rachel,

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Speaker 1: I have to admit, I really listened to our podcast

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Speaker 1: and the nineties really got me walking down memory lane.

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Speaker 1: And for the past seven days I have been blasting

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Speaker 1: nineties music like no other. My neighbors probably think like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm on this nineties Kike, but I

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Speaker 1: can't get rid of it. It's the best. But how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? After the fun, fun episode we did

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Speaker 1: last week? Your neighbors are probably saying thank you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, she's taking me down memory lane. Oh

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Speaker 1: I remember that. You even sent in the group chat

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Speaker 1: that you were listening to a wonder wall. I actually

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Speaker 1: have been more of it in a nineties country mood.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll listen to that playlist too. I'll get into

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Speaker 1: like Mike Garth was jam and Garth the other day.

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Speaker 1: Nothing like some Garth or some Shania here we go

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Speaker 1: against who. I have seen both of them in concert.

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Speaker 1: I have to let you guys know who we have

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Speaker 1: on the podcast today because you probably have never heard

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Speaker 1: from her on our podcast. She's a newbie with us,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure if you have followed bachel Nation for

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Speaker 1: a while now, you definitely have heard of her. We

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Speaker 1: have none other than Miss Katherine Lowe joining us. She

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Speaker 1: is the wife of Shan Lowe, who was on season

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Speaker 1: seventeen of The Bachelor, which seems like I mean, I

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Speaker 1: remember watching Sean's season in college, I believe, and but

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Speaker 1: like to this day doesn't feel like that long ago.

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Speaker 1: But when I say season seventeen, I'm like, damn that

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Speaker 1: that was actually quite some time ago. But for those

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know, Katherine's incredible. She has a

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Speaker 1: beautiful family with three amazing children with Sean, so she

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Speaker 1: is a true Bachelor success story. She is also a

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Speaker 1: proud Filipino woman, and she has recently been very outspoken

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Speaker 1: and so we're looking forward to sharing our platform today

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Speaker 1: with her to continue that important conversation around this topic.

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Speaker 1: So she will be hopping on very shortly. But before

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Speaker 1: we have her on, I just wanted to check in

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Speaker 1: with Rachel because you've had a lot go down this week.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know Copper had some health issues. He

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Speaker 1: was there's a lot of rumors circulating around poor Copper,

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Speaker 1: Like the speculation has been driving people wild. So since

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Speaker 1: we have you here, we just need to set the

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Speaker 1: record straight with what has been going on with mister Copper.

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Speaker 1: You know what I think it is because people first

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Speaker 1: met Copper and he had a cast on so and

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Speaker 1: people people always think, oh my gosh, something's always wrong

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Speaker 1: with him, poor Copper, And the story is kind of

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Speaker 1: like what happened to Copper's cast? I'm like, oh, he

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Speaker 1: jumped off something, and they're like, wait, we need more

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Speaker 1: details when he heard his foot, So now it's like, okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: what happened to Copper? He's in a cone? You know.

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Speaker 1: My Michael Holst on another podcast said he had a BBL,

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Speaker 1: said he had LIEFO, and I had to refute that rumor.

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Speaker 1: That is not true. That is not true. Copper had

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Speaker 1: a live poma and so like a benign mass on

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Speaker 1: his stomach and it was growing like he's he had it.

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Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of months ago. I've been

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Speaker 1: I was like, absolutely not. So I had it tested

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Speaker 1: for a second time. It was benign, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: was getting big and so he had that removed. That's it,

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Speaker 1: you guys. He also had a deep cleaning on his teeth.

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Speaker 1: He did not have any teeth pulled, nor did he

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Speaker 1: have any replaced. Okay, just some you know touch ups

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Speaker 1: that he needed some touch ups. So he is doing fine.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for asking. Thank you everybody else

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Speaker 1: for asking. People were very worried. And I love that

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Speaker 1: Copper has just wiggled his way into your hearts. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's become America's or at least bats or Nation's dog,

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Speaker 1: and I love that. But I am not alone here

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Speaker 1: on the doggy stories. You Becca have a story to

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Speaker 1: tell about whole little Minnow what happened? Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what I swear. She turned two years old two

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Speaker 1: But lately, because she loves to go squirrel hunting so

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Speaker 1: luckily there's there's like this tucked away park behind some

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Speaker 1: Like she loves going to the park. We always go

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Speaker 1: there to play fetche. It's the area she can be

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Speaker 1: off leash in our neighborhood. So she thankfully ran there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm running after her, like with my coffee, swinging

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Speaker 1: the poop bags, like literally screaming like a maniac. And

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Speaker 1: get to the park and she's just like in the corner,

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Speaker 1: like sniffing, and then all of a sudden she starts rolling.

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Speaker 1: So I'm running through the park like trying to find

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Speaker 1: like what she's rolling in, thinking it's like dog poop

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Speaker 1: or something, and like, lo and behold, she loves her squirrels.

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Speaker 1: There's a dead, half eaten squirrel that she was rolling

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Speaker 1: in guts. She's literally rolling in guts. Yeah, And I like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why dogs roll in that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I copperless not well, Thank goodness, Minna needs to spend

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Speaker 1: some time with Copper because she's wild. She's a wild dog.

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Speaker 1: And I always shoke with my sister because my sister

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Speaker 1: The other one, june Bug. We call her the trash

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Speaker 1: So bringing her home and I wanted to scold her,

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Speaker 1: talking about her? Yeah she knows we're talking about her

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Speaker 1: just like I was really flustered for a while, gave

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Speaker 1: her a bath. Thank goodness for Scouts, Honor. We do

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Speaker 1: ads with them through the podcast. But like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: So Copper's not like that. He's such a you know,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is a good story to tell Minto. Wow, Wow, Copper,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to be You're not allowed to hang

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Speaker 1: around bad influence. Seriously, if there are any trainers out there,

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Speaker 1: a trainer. I'll dmu one and listen. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we talk about our dogs a lot on here because

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Speaker 1: people will ask I'm sure they do with you, but

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Speaker 1: for her? Where did you get mental? Um? Both Mental

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Speaker 1: and Copper are rescue dogs, you guys, which as you

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Speaker 1: But if you're in the LA area, I work with

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Speaker 1: a group called Paul Works and it's paul Works dot

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Speaker 1: have there. They're amazing, amazing, amazing group rescue group, and

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Speaker 1: they really do a lot with with just like dogs

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Speaker 1: they take dogs in the pandemic, they've done a lot.

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Speaker 1: So um, yeah, if you're in the area, you're looking

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Speaker 1: that's like very very far off in the future. All right,

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Speaker 1: guess just to kick this off, we want to check

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Speaker 1: nothing for Sean Art to complain about. We both work

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Speaker 1: they're not affected too much. Um, So it's not a

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Speaker 1: you know, in turn, my sisters and I were only

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00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: half Filipino, but she made us. You know, we learned

426
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: the work like how to spell Philippine at a very

427
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: young age, and we were in Filipino folk dance. We

428
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: were so immersed in the Filippino culture in the community

429
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: in Seattle, and now like it's part of me, Like

430
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: it's something that I love so much, that Filipino dancing

431
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: and karaoke and the food and the family and elders

432
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: like that just is part of me, just like everybody else.

433
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: How how you grew up is how you kind of

434
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: want to Either some people want to bring it forward

435
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: or some people want to like suppress things. And we've

436
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: just celebrated not only the Philipino culture, but like every

437
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: other culture. My parents met in Japan and they took

438
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: a their honeymoon in Africa. My parents are very well

439
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: traveled and they're very cultured. And something that I love

440
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: is bringing the food and the stories very at the forefront.

441
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Early one, right, we're eating falafo at home, We're having gyoza.

442
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: We're trying, I mean, we put out to my kids.

443
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 1: We start with food because that's just something that they

444
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: can grasp, and we start like, okay, this is from

445
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: this is from Africa, and what does that mean and

446
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: where does that look like? And what do they hold

447
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: dear to them? So it's just it's fun for me.

448
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: I think. Also, what's really really important now is representation.

449
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thirty four years old, but Rya in

450
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: the Last Dragon is a new Disney movie and now

451
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: I finally have a Disney princess, you know. So it's

452
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: it's these things where as a kid you don't really

453
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: think about it, but as a half Asian woman, it's

454
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: really hard to kind of fit in and you're trying

455
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: to think, Okay, well, I'm not Filipino and and I'm

456
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: not white enough, where do I fit? And so many

457
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: people now are kind of feeling that way. And the

458
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: only real way to start at a young age to

459
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: understand is exposure. And my kids are exposed to so

460
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: many things, and that's so important to shaunomy Sean knows

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: how big of a part my family and what my

462
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: heritage is, and he cannot He is so excited to

463
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: celebrate that with our kids. I mean, when we are

464
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what kind of name we wanted

465
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: to name our daughter, Mahia is my middle name, and

466
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: it's my mom's maiden name, and it's my grandmother's last name,

467
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: and Mahia is Filipino. And so when we were talking

468
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: about names, he said Mia and I was like, um,

469
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: me is okay. And then he's like, what about me

470
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: and Mahia And I was like, okay, you just you

471
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: like it. That is absolutely her name. And so he

472
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: and I are just so on the same page of

473
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: exposing our children to different cultures different people, different abilities,

474
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: making sure that they're just aware so that they can

475
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: they can have meaningful conversations. But that starts really early,

476
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: and to show them, hey, this is somebody that means

477
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: something to you. This is somebody that means everybody needs

478
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: something to you. So when you see somebody that is

479
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: out there at the park, you're not like, Okay, I

480
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't be scared of them. It's no, this is a

481
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: person and you need to treat them with respect. And

482
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: you always have to be nice to everybody. And I

483
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: think so much of what we're experiencing right now could

484
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: be just paired back to how do we tell our

485
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: children how to act well. We need to kind of

486
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: listen to ourselves and how we're speaking other people. Do

487
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: you like, hey, kids, you need to listen, you need

488
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: to share, you need to respect other people and their space.

489
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just like so many things. If we

490
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: just bring it back and understand how to treat other

491
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: people just at the base of humans, like, so much

492
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: of these things would not be happening. And I just

493
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: it's such a sad thing that we kind of have

494
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: to unlearn so many bad things and hurtful things to

495
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: get back to basics. I mean, what's do you if

496
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: you if you see something that's going on that's bad,

497
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: do something about it. It doesn't matter what it is.

498
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: If there's something injustice, you do something about it. If

499
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: someone is getting talked about, like loudly getting talked down

500
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: to with the park and you can sense that it's

501
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: something wrong, you say something you said, and there's something

502
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I can do. It doesn't matter anything other than what

503
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: humans should be doing for each other. And I think

504
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: that's where it should start at. So so well said,

505
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: and like one of the things we've talked about is

506
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: like we have to be better in this generation to

507
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: be better for the next generation. And like you said,

508
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: it starts with your children. And it's it's so sad

509
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: because by the time that we get to the point

510
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: where it becomes mainstream, it's been happening. Like you said,

511
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's it didn't start with what happened in Atlanta.

512
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: This is it didn't start just last year with labeling

513
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: a virus, you know that a certain way where it

514
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: allowed people to blame other people for a virus. It

515
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: started before that. I was looking into this and this

516
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: goes into what you were saying about awareness, like if

517
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: we have to unlearn things from the past, and we

518
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: need to be aware though of how things were started

519
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: in this country. And the Asian community has been discriminated

520
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: by this government for centuries with the Chinese Exclusion Act

521
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: and then internment. So these are deep rooted stereotypes, stereotypes

522
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: and and and discriminate discrimination that has been come from

523
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: the top and trickled down into our society, and we

524
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: need to be aware of it and we need to

525
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: know that so that we don't repeat that. So for

526
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: people who are looking for resources and maybe didn't know

527
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: some of these things, maybe you're just now becoming aware

528
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: to what's happening to what's been happening to the Asian community.

529
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Where can they go to learn more? I don't know

530
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: if it's like a social media page, if there's a website,

531
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: if there are books, Where where can people go? Well,

532
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not an expert on you know, the act,

533
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: like the people that are really really nicking in difference,

534
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: But when you see people post stag stop asition hate

535
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: and there's the resources, there's like a ton of people

536
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: to follow websites to donate to education, to donate too.

537
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like so much of it needs to

538
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: just be at a human level. Let's start with having

539
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: those conversations with our kids. If we see somebody out

540
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Like I was at the zoo and Samuel saw this

541
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: girl's beautiful blit braided hair and she's black girl and

542
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: she had this beautiful long red hair and Samuel said,

543
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, oh her look at her hair? And I said,

544
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: isn't it cool? Like, don't like it, isn't it beautiful?

545
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: These are things that we need to be kind of

546
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: talking about in every like everywhere's an opportunity, and whether

547
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: that's supporting local Asian cuisine right now because they've taken

548
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: a huge hit. Um, you know, any Asian business right

549
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: now is struggling because of what's going on. You know,

550
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: obviously COVID. But I think starting in your community, making

551
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: sure that I wouldn't necessarily say, like check out on

552
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: your Asian friends, maybe that's maybe that's going to be

553
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: helpful to some people. But I feel like making a

554
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: fundamental point to hey, okay, this week, let's try a

555
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: different cuisine. Let's try let's go to Vietnamese food, Let's

556
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: go to Thai food, or let's go to a museum

557
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: of art and see like an Asian art museum and see.

558
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: The difference is because the range of Asians, it's so big,

559
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: and I think so many people think, Okay, well this

560
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: is like tiger mom, so that's that must be all

561
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: of them. I didn't grow up with the tiger mom.

562
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: That's not a Filipino thing. So I think really educating

563
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: yourself on the beauty of all the cultures in Asia

564
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: is really just somewhere. Because you know, I love to

565
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that in Filipino we're at the

566
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: park or whatever. Some people come up to me it's like, oh, well,

567
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: where are you from. I love that because it's an

568
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to shop. But some people don't like that because

569
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: they might feel like, oh, well, is that all that

570
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: you think of me? It's like, that's it's just you

571
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: just want to know where I'm from. I think it

572
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: should happen naturally in conversation. But there's so many different

573
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: variations of Asians. What they look like, what they eat,

574
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: what they revere, what you know, what they just who

575
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: they are and how they grow up and what kind

576
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: of cultural values they hold. But for the most part,

577
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: they're all there. Food is really important, their stories their

578
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: elders are really important, and I think we can all

579
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of agree on that. So I feel like if

580
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we kind of just again in we take things down

581
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: and we take all the layers away, we're all wanting

582
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. We want health for our families, we

583
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: want love, and we want respect. But again, I feel

584
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: like the just to kind of go back if you

585
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: go because so many people are posting, and that's such

586
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: an awesome thing. If you follow a ton of publications

587
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: right now are showing the resources. So like, even if

588
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: you don't follow Asian people, which I you know, maybe

589
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: branch out and try and see if there's somebody that

590
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: you might like, whether it's a chef or an artist.

591
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: There's like a ton of wonderful small businesses that are

592
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: owned by Asian people that are proud and want to

593
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: show our cultures. So check out that all the resources.

594
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: There's like so many that I can't even remember them well.

595
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: And I love too that You're just like your mentality

596
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: is like immerse yourself in different cultures, like and that's

597
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: one thing that I mean, obviously twenty has put a

598
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: hit on so many different things, but the fact that

599
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: like now people can't even travel and so it's like,

600
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: go and travel to these incredible places like I like,

601
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: to the day I die, I will say my favorite

602
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: places that I've traveled our Thailand and Bali, for the religion,

603
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: for the culture, for the food, for all the things

604
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: that if people you know, can just for a lot

605
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: of people too, because I grew up in Minnesota and

606
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of them are like homebodies and don't necessarily

607
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: like they don't know what they're missing until they do it.

608
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: They don't feel that need. But if you can just

609
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: step outside of comfort zones and push yourself to have

610
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: a conversation or to go eat at a new place

611
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: that you never normally would like, those are baby steps,

612
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: and those are simple things that we can do in

613
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: our society to just gain a better understanding and respect

614
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: for others. One thing that I want to ask you

615
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: because I recently read an article I think it was

616
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the one in E News that you that you wrote

617
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: a new said you felt like when you were on

618
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: the show bringing it back to sean season, you felt

619
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: like and I don't want to I don't want to

620
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: quote this because I don't know if these were your

621
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: exact words, but you said you felt like you were

622
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: on the show because you were kind of checking their box,

623
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, for having an Asian woman portrayed on his season.

624
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: So you know, and that was season seventeen, so that

625
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: was several years ago. So since then, and I'm assuming

626
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: you still watch or keep up with the Bachelor of

627
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: franchise as a whole for the most part a little

628
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: bit hopefully in some way. So since then, since you

629
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: felt that back for season seventeen, have you seen any

630
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: sort of change for the better? Do you wish that

631
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: the franchise would have moved faster in more diversity as

632
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: a whole or watching it now, what are some steps

633
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: that you would urge the franchise to take to include

634
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: more Asians, more people of color, to better represent society. Well,

635
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: I feel like they're doing a good job of now.

636
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: Kind of going in the lead has to have some

637
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: sort of attraction to different ethnicities. I think it starts

638
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: there because other than that, it's like filler And that

639
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: feels wrong. That feels wrong because you're not giving people

640
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: a chance to really go up higher into like how

641
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: long weeks go on and you can't see them represented

642
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: long enough because they're not genuinely attracted. So like Sean

643
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: has dated a wacke role, He's dated a Filipino, and

644
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I feel like when he said I'm attracted to any race,

645
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: he meant it. And so when they all came on, right,

646
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: we all came on, I didn't know that. I thought, Okay,

647
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: it's a slawn why guy, he likes s long roles,

648
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: like I'm just here because I just am am ethnic

649
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: and I'm checking the box. And that's generally what I

650
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: thought because I didn't know enough. And that was a

651
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: my bad because I just assumed because he looked like

652
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: that and he was from Texas, and that pleas to yeah, exactly,

653
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: so right, So I feel like if we're getting and

654
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I think it's also a leads um responsibility to say, like, well,

655
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm really not attracted to X, Y and Z like

656
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: theyre I'm sure they're saying like okay, like can you

657
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: did you say Rachel like who you were attracted to? Yeah? Yeah,

658
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: but like everybody, but yeah, right, But like if somebody

659
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that, they're just saying it because it's like

660
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: the nice thing to say, then they're gonna they're gonna

661
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: cast beautiful, rich cultural people that aren't going to go

662
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: far because they just didn't have a chance because they're

663
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: genuinely not attracted. So I think when we're getting up

664
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: into now, okay, we're having black leads and we're having um,

665
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't now it's just really it's just black,

666
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: but Kasia, it's half um. Yeah. So I think it's

667
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: it's starting with the lead because genuinely, I feel like

668
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: casting has a job to do right and they want

669
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: to represent, but it's also the lead who chooses who

670
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: stays longer. And if they're genuinely not attracted to people

671
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: of different cultures, I think it starts there because then

672
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: they're not going to get to stay longer, which you

673
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: want to hear their stories, you want to see represented more.

674
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: So it can just be like, okay, well there's you know,

675
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: there's three black holes on the season now, and they're

676
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: all falling off in the first couple of weeks because

677
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: they weren't. They're just you're getting a lead who's not

678
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: attracted to that and not just at really fair right,

679
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: So I feel like they need to maybe just chast someone.

680
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's looking into the background

681
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: or I don't know what it is, but I think

682
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: it's it's having an honest conversation with the leads. Hey,

683
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: if you're not attractive, and then this is a deal

684
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: work you know, Yeah, I don't know. Definitely no amazing

685
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: suggestion and something that we definitely need to see and

686
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: hopefully we will. Hopefully we will moving forward. Now, Katherine,

687
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: you're what we call a superwoman. Okay. You not only

688
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: are the mother of three young, very young, beautiful children,

689
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: you are a wife. You are using your platform to

690
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: bring awareness to what is happening to your community and

691
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: how and how we can all be better in that sense.

692
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: After listening to you talk, I'm saying you're a human

693
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: humanitarian as well. I mean, seriously, I was motivated. I

694
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: was like, let me have a baby so I can

695
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: like train this baby to be better for this country

696
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: because this country did seriously. But you are also a businesswoman,

697
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: and can you talk to us about what it is

698
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: that you do your business loco the importance of just working,

699
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: owning your own business and setting that example for your daughter.

700
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: So I never expected to be entrepreneur. It's like it's

701
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: too scary for me, it's too unknown for me. I

702
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, clock me in at eight thirty clock me

703
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: out at five, I'll go live my life. I was

704
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: fine with that. I was a graphic designer at Amazon,

705
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: and so my background is in the creative space. And

706
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: when I met Sean, obviously most people they fall off

707
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: their normal job right when they get up shut because

708
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well wait, we can do so, we can,

709
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: we can we have some flexibility here. Yeah, And so

710
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: when I came to Dallas, I felt like a fish

711
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: out of water, to be honest, like it's one hundred

712
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: and eighty degrees different from Seattle. I didn't know what

713
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: my value was because I'm like, wait, I'm just here

714
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: as your fiance. Like that's that's crazy because I have

715
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: this beautiful resume I have, like I feel like I

716
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: have a lot to bring to the table. But it's

717
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: kind of okay, well now this guy's the limit. But

718
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: you have to choose. So I started Loco, which I

719
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: thought was going to be easy when I was pregnant,

720
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing. If you ever start a business,

721
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: do not do it all you're pregnant. Although pregnant people

722
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: decide to like take on a ton of things because

723
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: they're just I don't know what it is, but you're

724
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: super motivated when you're pregnant to just like, oh, let's move.

725
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this terrible idea, but you're like, I

726
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I just got to do something. But I

727
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: did that when I was pregnant with Samuel, and I

728
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: brought my love of like design to like high end

729
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: paper goods and so. And I also wanted to just

730
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: understand the industry and out because I I felt kind

731
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, well, I don't know anybody I don't

732
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: want to do and I just started talking to a

733
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: woman who owns her a small business for herself, and

734
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: I felt like, okay, well, I hope she doesn't take

735
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: this the wrong way because I've never started anything before.

736
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: But I asked her, like, what do you like? Where

737
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: do you start? And this awesome And I'll always credit

738
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: her till the day I die. She her company is

739
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: called Southern Fried Paper, and I loved her pieces. She's

740
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: like an event wedding planner and she does like all

741
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: the beautiful pieces for it. And I said, like, I

742
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: hope I'm not stepping on your toes. Please tell me

743
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: if I am, because I just don't know what to do.

744
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: But like, who do you who does your paper. And

745
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: she told me, she's like, girl, you like women have

746
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: to help each other and you're not going to be

747
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: like we're not competitors. So I was like, wow, this

748
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: is the coolest, Like that's how I want to start

749
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: my business. That's how I want to like inspire other women.

750
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: We have to help each other, Like sorry, you out there.

751
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: So she helped me out and I started from there

752
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: and I make you know, luck regreeting cards, and now

753
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: we offer plantable cards, which is like the coolest thing

754
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: that we do. We have like like herb embedded uh

755
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: wild like cards that have the seeds so you can

756
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: plant the cards wrote on it. Yeah, I love that,

757
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: so you can do like it's like basil time, lemonments

758
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: and um parsley, and then there's also like non evasive

759
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: wildflowers and like that was I was. I was kind

760
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: of a Hippian scattle, like I was vegan, and I

761
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: wrote the bus and I wrote bucks also, so like

762
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: when I started the company, I wanted to start with

763
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: the plantables, but then I didn't want to be only

764
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: known for that, So we have like this very elevated

765
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: it's called blind embossed, which is really hard to see,

766
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: but it's a very intimate, elevated UM take on a

767
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: greeting card, and so they're they're like keepsakes. They're hundred

768
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: percent cotton, they're super thick, so that the cotton ones

769
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: are the ones that aren't plantable, and then our plantable

770
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: ones are fully plantable. They use one hundred percent recycled paper,

771
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: their own unim states, and everything else about that collection

772
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: is super conscious. We have recycled envelopes, we have compostable sleeves,

773
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and so I just I took that one so to

774
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: heart and I absolutely love that collection. People really do too.

775
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: And it's on it's only a seasonal product, but it

776
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: has a shelf life of three years, so people can

777
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: use them, they can get down. I think they're great

778
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: for you know, um condolences because you don't want to

779
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: say anything. You don't want to say, so you're like,

780
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: here's a plan out, there's a car, here's a plant,

781
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: and you can plant it and just think about It's

782
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: kind of like it forget me not. But um, I

783
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: just I love what I do. I feel like it's

784
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: such a like I worked really hard to get to

785
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: the place where I was professionally and to kind of

786
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: have that stop, and I got to like reassess. Now

787
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I get to do things with the flexibility of staying

788
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: at home, with the flexibility of Okay, I'm on maternulately

789
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: for a year, putting it on pause if I want to.

790
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of being an entrepreneur is really

791
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: choosing the pace. And I haven't really been like that

792
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: hardcore climb the ladder of person. So Sean and I

793
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: are just so blessed that we get to do things

794
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: at our own pace and then we own our own company.

795
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean, I will not lie. There are

796
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: so many things. There's tons of challenges to be in

797
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: leadership position. But I think showing your children that you

798
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: can do varying things and have a balance, that's been

799
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: like something that I prioritize in my life is a balance.

800
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Right Like right now I'm wearing a nice top, I

801
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: have sweatpants on, so like like we can do like

802
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: we can write, we can do that and feel like

803
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: we don't need to compromise as long as we have

804
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: our priorities and check and and that's what I've I've

805
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: definitely like when I started the company, I was like, oh,

806
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay at home and work with you know,

807
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: work with my baby on my boob. And you're like, okay,

808
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: well it's not really as easy as that, but eventually

809
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: you'll get to that place where it's super flexible. You

810
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: need to do well. Catherine, you have been so incredible

811
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: to talk to. I feel like, in a way, I

812
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: feel like I relate to you so much. It's like

813
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: all about the work life balance, and you work hard

814
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: to be able to celebrate and appreciate the moments and

815
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: the memories with your family and friends in life. And

816
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: so I'm just so happy that we've had you on today.

817
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: But I also for all of our listeners, I truly

818
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: want to to express and just urge you to please

819
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: go check out Catherine's loco and Katherine, I'm going to

820
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: have you plug everything so people can find you. But

821
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: it's so important, and I want to stress, like you know,

822
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: it's important to not only support women run businesses, but

823
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Asian businesses, and so please tell us where all of

824
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: our listeners can go and find you find Loco. I

825
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: know I'm going to personally stock up because these plantable

826
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: sound incredible, So let us say yeah, and I pack

827
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: them personally, so I'll get just look at love. I

828
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: am the janitor, I am the designer, truly jack of

829
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: all trains. You guys not want to do it when

830
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur, but it's been awesome to just be

831
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: on here talking to you guys. I honestly have felt

832
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: very empowered by both of your messages in the past year,

833
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: and I feel like, just we have to band together,

834
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: um and just show show what women are capable of. Yeah,

835
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: because I mean I'm just women. Like I could go

836
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: on about women, but like what would they do without us? True,

837
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: they would be chickens with their head problems right right,

838
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: picking apples off trees, hitting each other, hitting each other,

839
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: knocking each other down, like women are disultimate. I love it.

840
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: I think it's so cool and um, just to kind

841
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: of keep keeping like holding each other's hands and and

842
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: like bringing all of us up because it's just so

843
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: it's so important today, it's important, yesterday, it's important tomorrow. Um.

844
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool to see start to

845
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: see change and to start to see people speak up

846
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more about how how incredible women are,

847
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: how incredible people are, and I just I love people.

848
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: But before you get off, Please tell us where where

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Speaker 1: our listeners can come find you. Okay, I just go Loco,

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Speaker 1: which means go crazy. A lot of people say lo

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Speaker 1: and co. But I didn't see all my husband's last

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Speaker 1: name for nothing. It's Loco, like crazy. So go Loco,

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Speaker 1: go crazy dot g O l Owe c dot com. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so everyone please go check out Go Loco. Stop of

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Speaker 1: support Catherine, Um and Catherine. It has been such a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Give those cute little babies hugs and squeezes from us.

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Speaker 1: Give Sean a big hug. I haven't seen you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean the last time I saw you, we were

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Speaker 1: in New York City. Yeah, a sleep number even, which is,

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Speaker 1: like I have to say, probably the coolest event to

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Speaker 1: just like sit on beds and talk before tonight. But

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Speaker 1: I hope once the world gets back to some somewhat normalcy,

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Speaker 1: we can all reunite and just catch up. But thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining you talking to you guys. She's awesome.

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Speaker 1: M you know what they don't make contestants like, don't

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Speaker 1: play that far. She's awesome, Like, yes, awesome. I see

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Speaker 1: why Sean picked her. Um. I've met Catherine once, but gosh,

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Speaker 1: I just like fall deeper in love with her each time.

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Speaker 1: She's just somebody that I think like any kind of

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Speaker 1: woman can can relate to her, or like she just

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Speaker 1: makes you feel special, Like she's not. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: people come off the show and they're like only into

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Speaker 1: the glitz and the glam and the hype and this

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Speaker 1: batch nation, if you will. And she's and obviously I

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Speaker 1: didn't know her prior to the show, but like she

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Speaker 1: just seems like she stayed so grounded, so like who

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Speaker 1: she was before the show is who she is now

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Speaker 1: with just an incredible husband and three incredible kids, and

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Speaker 1: like she's a badass businesswoman. She also, I mean when

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Speaker 1: she said, you know, have a nice top blouse on top,

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Speaker 1: but I'm wearing sweatpans on the bottom, I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the zoom quarantine look. And I feel because

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Speaker 1: I do it every day, And I have to say

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Speaker 1: to her, reputation precedes her. I did not watch their season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been outspoken. I didn't watch the show

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Speaker 1: before I was on it, but um, once I got

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Speaker 1: on the show and I came back to Dallas, mutual

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Speaker 1: friends would speak so highly of Catherine. It's it's funny

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Speaker 1: they were like, no, we never met Sean. We know Catherine.

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Speaker 1: Kavin's awesome. Cavin's so much fun, She's so like, such

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Speaker 1: a good time and she's so great and so warm,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to make this Catherine.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of mutual friends, so I didn't

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Speaker 1: end up having the chance to meet her, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's she's just as lovely in person to talk to

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. We hope you guys enjoyed her just

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Speaker 1: as much if you weren't familiar with her before. We

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Speaker 1: hope that you do a deep dive into her now,

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Speaker 1: into her company, into her family, into what she represents,

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Speaker 1: who she represents. And yeah, can't speak highly enough about Catherine. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and please as always like make sure you support your

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Speaker 1: fellow women, and especially right now the Asian businesses like

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Speaker 1: she like she said go loco on Instagram. But I

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Speaker 1: also just loved how she said just immerse herself in

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Speaker 1: the culture and appreciate anyone that is different, who actuallyferent

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Speaker 1: who looks different from you can bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm excited, I really truly am just see

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Speaker 1: how her children grow up, because I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: going to raise those three kidos so well the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly so. And her message it starts with you, you guys.

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Speaker 1: Don't wait for something to happen, don't wait for change

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Speaker 1: to happen. It starts with you. Be the difference. Preach

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Speaker 1: it girl. All Right, you guys, as always, it has

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Speaker 1: been so much fun hanging out with you this week.

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Speaker 1: And Rachel I said it last week, but again, I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy to have you back. It's happy to be

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Speaker 1: always a great time. So you guys keep writing into

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Speaker 1: us and letting us know your thoughts. Maybe who you

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Speaker 1: want to hear on the podcast in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know where to find us at Batch or Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram and at Batch Happy Hour on Facebook

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Speaker 1: and Twitter. And don't forget. If you never want to

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Speaker 1: miss an episode, please subscribe to our podcast. You can

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Speaker 1: do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wonder App, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you were listening to our voices right now. Thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: have a good one. Bye,