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Speaker 1: The plum we're gonna talk about on this one is

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Speaker 1: Y'all know that agent that Gypsums didn't call themselves ancient?

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Speaker 3: Right? They was just them?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they knew their way of life was

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Speaker 3: slipping away? I mean, you're right? How could they?

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Speaker 1: How could they know that their pantheon would find its

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Speaker 1: way through Greek and Roman mythos, it's send their millennia

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Speaker 1: old habit of tapping African inspirations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how could hol Tevan possibly know? I mean did

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Speaker 3: he know? I mean did he know?

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Speaker 1: Or maybe it never crossed your minds? Life was as

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Speaker 1: beautiful and ugly as it is just like this, I

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Speaker 1: should ask modern us, what was the last moment before

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Speaker 1: your phones cooked your brain?

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Speaker 3: The last phone number you remember?

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Speaker 1: You're a dying greed and my silly bre even naming

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Speaker 1: this is immortality in these mortal coils, as pointless and aimless.

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Speaker 3: As I think, it is what we made. We can't sustain,

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Speaker 3: so enjoy and that chance. Look hard, You're freely this

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Speaker 3: so hard. This is what we had, even though it

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Speaker 3: never does.

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Speaker 1: Smith want Lazarus to go back and leave the comforts

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Speaker 1: of heaven and warn the living that the life you

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Speaker 1: live in really ain't it. But if you could ask

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Speaker 1: an endling, doesn't that mean you are the one?

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Speaker 3: That mean you are one? Had to.

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