Speaker 1: Now, The Shotguns Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of setup work that we
Speaker 1: have to do in order to make a tournament work.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how
Speaker 1: we do a shotgun start here And.
Speaker 2: Alright, alright, alright, did no man?
Speaker 3: Darn your.
Speaker 4: Greetings and welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotguns Start.
Speaker 4: It is April third, Andy, how are we doing, bred Dan?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. I gotta say I I feel like
Speaker 2: I missed the mark. I've remedied this situation. You know,
Speaker 2: important people in my life. I put calendar reminders for birthdays.
Speaker 5: But I don't always do this.
Speaker 2: There's like four people in my life that I have
Speaker 2: been set up for that like I wouldn't otherwise. Remember, Okay,
Speaker 2: the beautiful boy the silver Slovak turns fifty.
Speaker 4: You don't have a calendar reminder for that, dude.
Speaker 5: I've now said it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm.
Speaker 5: The beautiful boy.
Speaker 4: You got Wes silver Slovak TV. I did you know?
Speaker 4: I did help, but I couldn't help. But notice we're
Speaker 4: joined by Kevin van Volkomberg. Jump in there, Kevin. We're
Speaker 4: privileged to have you here. We're gonna be doing a
Speaker 4: jumbo flashback, Brendon.
Speaker 6: I'm playing the role of foreign invader here in this podcast.
Speaker 3: All the Americans are gonna have to crumple in my wake.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do a big flashback on a sort of
Speaker 4: lesser known Lesser talked about Masters nineteen eighty six on
Speaker 4: its fortieth anniversary. But you're breaking up the BFB the
Speaker 4: Sabo picture, Andy was reminding me the other day. You're
Speaker 4: talking to Bernhard Lanner, I believe is how he pronounced
Speaker 4: the G in there on your Friday podcast, and Sabatini's
Speaker 4: in the background. I'm just like wondering this very serious
Speaker 4: German fella, Like who am I talking to? And why
Speaker 4: is Sabo?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: What is he a bring Sabatini fan? Like, of course
Speaker 4: he probably hasn't been up on the whole thing. That
Speaker 4: was all I could think about in some of the clips,
Speaker 4: is what was Bernhard thinking as you were asking him
Speaker 4: questions and Sabbo was looking over his shoulder. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't mean.
Speaker 7: To butt in here, but this is this is he's
Speaker 7: got to be scouting this competition. He's out there now.
Speaker 7: I think that I think Bernie is very aware.
Speaker 4: That today Rory has come to this Chips Tour, He's
Speaker 4: already signed up for the PGA, uh Senior PGA as
Speaker 4: it were very exciting development here uh less exciting real quick,
Speaker 4: before we get this flashback, Tiger officially out of the
Speaker 4: Ryder Cup. Captaincy has told the PGA he's not like
Speaker 4: I think, you know, September twenty twenty seven is a
Speaker 4: long way away, right, So, like, I guess that is newsworthy.
Speaker 4: Did we expect to play the Masters next week?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Do we expect you know, the short term stuff? No,
Speaker 4: but it's newsworthy in a way. I guess there was
Speaker 4: a deadline. So that opens the gates for who knows.
Speaker 4: Justin Leonard was on Golf Channel Stadium's case only because
Speaker 4: he was prompted to Stu sink Gott to bring Larry
Speaker 4: Nelson maybe back talking about four invaders, you know, intruders
Speaker 4: lead the troops into Ireland. Who knows there's a lot
Speaker 4: of caps. So Tiger officially declining twenty twenty seven. Kind
Speaker 4: of a sad deal. Tiger and Phil I don't know
Speaker 4: if they would have been good captains. They quite frankly
Speaker 4: could have been disastrous captains. I don't know their deference
Speaker 4: that they would be good as a little misplaced. We
Speaker 4: don't know, like Paul McGinley wasn't one of the greatest
Speaker 4: all time good captain. But it's just sad. We're gonna
Speaker 4: get like a pretty big era of Ryder Cup, a
Speaker 4: swath of Ryder Cups with no Tiger of Philip captaincy
Speaker 4: maybe one day, you know, maybe twenty nine. Who knows
Speaker 4: when that'll happen. So he's out for that. The police
Speaker 4: videos are out, I like, I I'm not gonna click.
Speaker 4: I don't need to watch it. He's had so many
Speaker 4: of these sad moments. I'm not saying that makes me
Speaker 4: a Pollyanna, or I don't think it exists, or I
Speaker 4: think like we're being mean, or it shouldn't be out there.
Speaker 4: Totally fine, I personally is like one of those, Like
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not gonna watch a bad injury video.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna watch some like young television reporter absolutely
Speaker 4: bomb some stand up report from a baseball field. I
Speaker 4: just don't. I'm not gonna get anything out of it.
Speaker 4: So see some of the pictures. Doesn't look good? Does
Speaker 4: it look pretty? Probably another round of embarrassing videos and
Speaker 4: photos for Tiger, but that is out there. I don't
Speaker 4: know if there's any grand takeaway. He's going away to treatment.
Speaker 4: It sounds like out of the country for privacy current concerns.
Speaker 4: That's the Tiger update. And thank god, you know he's
Speaker 4: not gonna play next week, you know, with each drip
Speaker 4: of video police report, it just would have been a
Speaker 4: total circus, not that it was within the realm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is uh, this is the best
Speaker 2: thing for for himself, obviously, and I'm very happy that
Speaker 2: he's he's he's doing this for himself and and going
Speaker 2: on a lighter note, you know, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to breeze past this.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys have it more that
Speaker 5: you want to unpack.
Speaker 2: Here on a lighter note, did you guys see the
Speaker 2: news that Memorial Parks adding a pod that next time
Speaker 2: so that so that women who hate this tradition can
Speaker 2: jump into the pond. Following the win at the former
Speaker 2: Dinah Shore that they've co opted the uh this celebration
Speaker 2: despite changing the name, moving locales.
Speaker 5: Now they're building a pond to uphold this tradition.
Speaker 4: A the golf course.
Speaker 6: Let's say you're an old guy and you play regular
Speaker 6: like Dnesday morning game a memorial park. You don't carry
Speaker 6: the ball that far anymore, but this is your course.
Speaker 6: This is like you love this, and now you got
Speaker 6: to deal with a fucking pond an eighteen that your
Speaker 6: ball is gonna go into every other time. And it's
Speaker 6: just like you're absolutely enraged over the fact that this pond,
Speaker 6: this ridiculous thing just to have one tournament year where
Speaker 6: they're going to jump in the pond for thirty seconds,
Speaker 6: you have to have a pond in front of your
Speaker 6: damn course.
Speaker 4: It's it's farcical. Let's just like be honest with ourselves
Speaker 4: and like it's a joke. If that is your signal,
Speaker 4: your signature identifying characteristic of your major, that you jump
Speaker 4: in the water, a that like diminishes the golf in
Speaker 4: and of itself, like or you just shouldn't have moved.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have moved from where the pond was already
Speaker 4: in a pool. It was a pool. Let's let's be
Speaker 4: real here. They could just put an above ground pool
Speaker 4: sixty yards back into the right behind the behind the green.
Speaker 4: But this appears to be well, the rendering is grotesque.
Speaker 4: It is grotesque, looks terrible, It is terrible. It's a
Speaker 4: fundamental altering of the hole. Are they bringing in Tom Doak,
Speaker 4: the recent architect? Is he have to do like in theory?
Speaker 4: Couldn't they get Joe Schmoe excavator from down the street
Speaker 4: in Houston? Like this isn't presuming Tom Doak designed the hole.
Speaker 4: He wanted to design it, not in a way that
Speaker 4: you know. I bet these pond jumping traditions and hijinks
Speaker 4: that's why he built the hole, not not for that,
Speaker 4: get whoever to do it.
Speaker 5: I was talking to Tom.
Speaker 2: He he he's excited that he gets to rework the
Speaker 2: eighteenth Green because it wasn't his favorite green out there.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's excited about the new water feature. I don't
Speaker 4: want to put him on the record. Maybe we won't
Speaker 4: say who could say he's excited about the green.
Speaker 6: We'll leave it at what great ponds have you been
Speaker 6: inspired by.
Speaker 3: In the past.
Speaker 2: I was pushing him Devlin's billibon.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. That's essentially what they're trying to
Speaker 4: do here. Let's just create something for them to jump in.
Speaker 6: Don't dis count this social media cloud that you get
Speaker 6: every year for that one clip of a lady jumping
Speaker 6: into the water.
Speaker 3: That's basically it.
Speaker 4: That's it. I mean, just leave it where it was
Speaker 4: then in Mission Hills. You know, God, what a farce,
Speaker 4: what a complete farce. And it's im MUNI nonetheless, that's it.
Speaker 4: I also had Jonathan k follow up from his corn
Speaker 4: Ferry to our start. We know someone who played with
Speaker 4: him and made him aware of the podcast. I won't
Speaker 4: go into too many details, just apparently he did the
Speaker 4: start for insurance reasons. So there you go. He got
Speaker 4: a KFC start at fifty five for insurance reasons. That's
Speaker 4: what we want on this competitive league sounds I just
Speaker 4: told you he was angry but a nice guy, which
Speaker 4: I guess can be co exist. All right, that's our
Speaker 4: follow up. Let's get to a special to jump.
Speaker 2: In before we get Before we get there, you know,
Speaker 2: what I've realized this week is that there's one person.
Speaker 2: You know, Saturday's a big, big night of college basketball,
Speaker 2: and I think there's a person on this podcast that
Speaker 2: actually wants Illinois to win more than I do.
Speaker 4: Who's that PJJ? Because of his anti early stuff, PJ.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get PJ some Illinois gear.
Speaker 7: I am more of the game. I am desperate. I
Speaker 7: am I need. I need the Balkans to do one job.
Speaker 7: Just do your job. Finish, finish the story. It's just
Speaker 7: I like that you're giving me an opportunity to just
Speaker 7: put positive energy out there. It's gonna be a great
Speaker 7: eat week next week. We need to start it off
Speaker 7: on the right foot. Try to stay positive the Balkans. Please,
Speaker 7: I'm begging you.
Speaker 2: I might be getting to August a little later if
Speaker 2: if the if the Balkans pull it off Falcons, I
Speaker 2: might be changing my flight to Indianapolis instead of Atlanta
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: I Pj's not a bit with PJ. I brought it up,
Speaker 4: not in a podcast setting, in an internal call that
Speaker 4: like I would just been talking to someone from and
Speaker 4: he like was the most wound up i've seen him, Like, Oh,
Speaker 4: he was shouting and angry. The boy does not like
Speaker 4: Yukon needs them to be stopped.
Speaker 5: Someone must stop them. Hopefully it could be the.
Speaker 4: Line I it's foreign intruders. The foreigners is what learned here.
Speaker 4: They'd be referred to the Balkans and the nineteen eighty
Speaker 4: six Masters broadcast good luck for you.
Speaker 5: Should I get my wine out for this segment.
Speaker 4: No, no whine.
Speaker 5: That's frustrating.
Speaker 4: I was just popping him. I mean, he puts this
Speaker 4: fish bowl to his face in the middle of recording.
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 2: I've recorded with Joseph before. We're like out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: The wine comes out, but Joseph he's the one drinking it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I I remember, I think you were gone and
Speaker 2: I was. I was recording with him and just out
Speaker 2: of nowhere, Like it was like twenty minutes into the pod,
Speaker 2: He's just drinking a glass of wine and I'm thinking
Speaker 2: in my head, where did this come from?
Speaker 4: Okay, so Saturday, you're not going confirm Final four, but Monday,
Speaker 4: perhaps per chance, then we'll just you don't have to
Speaker 4: confirm lock yourself into anything.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I just I've I just can't. I can't
Speaker 2: get out out of out of my house on Saturday.
Speaker 2: On Friday, the issues, I'm turning a long trip into
Speaker 2: a very long trip. If I leave Friday, yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: good luck to you on Saturday night and then come
Speaker 2: with May on Monday.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, godspeed, good life.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I mean, we got to win
Speaker 2: a national championship.
Speaker 5: Best college basketball program without one.
Speaker 4: That's fair. That's fair. You've been to a boatload of
Speaker 4: final fours if you count up sort of the pre
Speaker 4: war era or wherever.
Speaker 5: Not a lot lately.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well, good luck to you on Saturday.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun. We can't wait to get to Augusta. Hopefully,
Speaker 4: maybe you get there Monday, maybe you come Tuesday. We'll see.
Speaker 4: Good luck to you on Satday. We'll certainly talked between
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Speaker 4: We're going to nineteen eighty six, the fortieth anniversary this
Speaker 4: year of the Greatest Masters, one of the greatest Masters,
Speaker 4: certainly of a piece with what we watched last year.
Speaker 4: Maybe not in similar storylines, but in terms of up
Speaker 4: and down roller coaster, all time, all time Masters, eighty
Speaker 4: six would be at the very top. Twenty five, you know,
Speaker 4: coming in there now and joining the battle with time
Speaker 4: will marinate and see where it slots.
Speaker 2: I have a hard time, you know, I want to
Speaker 2: watching this one and twenty five incredible Masters, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of more of a solo character, but to kind
Speaker 2: of set the table here. I just wanted to, you know,
Speaker 2: talk about a little bit about like some of the
Speaker 2: characters involved with this one and their master's records.
Speaker 8: Like.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll ever and part of this
Speaker 2: might be like competitive, I don't know if we'll ever
Speaker 2: see a roster of people with a chance to win
Speaker 2: on Sunday that have had such success at Augusta National
Speaker 2: as this one eighty six. Everybody knows who won. Jack
Speaker 2: Nicholas six wins, fifteen top fives and Augusta in his
Speaker 2: career fifteen. I mean, like the six wins is crazy.
Speaker 2: Fifteen top fives.
Speaker 4: I I was looking up most runner ups because Kite
Speaker 4: it was a factor. Norman was a factor but never
Speaker 4: won it. But Jack like blows him away with the
Speaker 4: runner ups, like he's way down, like you know, but
Speaker 4: also as the six they have zeroint of top.
Speaker 2: Also in the mix, Tom Watson, Jack's like foremost rival
Speaker 2: in the decade before h So you got these two
Speaker 2: kind of grizzled little vets. Two wins, nine top fives.
Speaker 2: You've got seven O. Seve looked like he was gonna
Speaker 2: win for for a while. We'll get into it. Two wins,
Speaker 2: seven top fives. You got Greg Norman obviously eight top fives,
Speaker 2: eight top five finishes for Greg Norman, tom Kite nine
Speaker 2: top five finishes, like kind of like the best player
Speaker 2: at the Masters that nobody ever references as the best
Speaker 2: player of the Masters that never won.
Speaker 4: And at one point in the broadcast they say his
Speaker 4: record is second to none at Augusta and they're like, well, besides,
Speaker 4: it's the guys who've won. Like, literally, he would love
Speaker 4: it for that green jacket. His consistency almost demands it
Speaker 4: before he has finished, is what they said of tom Kite.
Speaker 4: Second to none.
Speaker 6: I think it would take issue that of I was
Speaker 6: Tom Weiskoff too, who was like really freaking good at
Speaker 6: the Masters, like had a couple solo second finishes, took.
Speaker 4: Five runner ups, four or five runners on the broadcast.
Speaker 2: Bernie Longer two wins, three top fives. Also in the mix,
Speaker 2: you know, just a crazy, crazy cast of characters. And
Speaker 2: there are some other characters of it, but just those
Speaker 2: names and those records. I don't think we'll ever see
Speaker 2: anything like it again.
Speaker 4: So Jack is, in current form standards, the worst player
Speaker 4: in the mix there and not much expected of him.
Speaker 4: There was ironically enough the first ever Sony Ranking world
Speaker 4: ranking came out this week going into this tournament. Now,
Speaker 4: of course there have been refinements, but this is what
Speaker 4: they had that week and what they came up with.
Speaker 4: Number one was Hard Lotter, who's in the second the
Speaker 4: last group, second to last group, I believe Sevy who
Speaker 4: looks to be the favorite for most of the back night.
Speaker 4: Sandy Lyle, who's playing with Jack in the fourth to
Speaker 4: last group. I believe it is Tom Watson, who you mentioned,
Speaker 4: is in the mix. So that's the top four in
Speaker 4: the world, all within the last three to four groups.
Speaker 4: Top four, you skip Omira, who's fifth. Not Norman is sixth.
Speaker 5: Have a good, good week.
Speaker 2: The only time it flashed was was for like a
Speaker 2: split second his pairing what they shot.
Speaker 4: Norman is sixth. Knakajima seventh in the world rankings. Both
Speaker 4: are heavily involved in contention this Sunday. Hal Sutton don't
Speaker 4: see him on this broadcast, Corey Paven you see him
Speaker 4: for better or worse on this broadcast. That's ninth. Calvin
Speaker 4: Pete tenth in the world. He comes in on the
Speaker 4: broadcast at a top ten fIF So that's the top
Speaker 4: ten right there. I think there were only two names
Speaker 4: that I didn't mention among you know, last four or
Speaker 4: five groups in appearing on the broadcast. Everybody is in
Speaker 4: the mix. And then you add in the greatest champion
Speaker 4: of them all with the greatest charge, one of the
Speaker 4: great back nine charges. So yeah, a great Masters record,
Speaker 4: a great top of the world rankings record. We're gonna
Speaker 4: go pretty by new tier in detail, but what I'll
Speaker 4: set up a few things. Watch this on YouTube. It's
Speaker 4: three hours long on YouTube. You can jump around as
Speaker 4: you see fit. It's the seventh most viewed video on
Speaker 4: the master's YouTube account, which is very Tiger heavy. It's
Speaker 4: Tiger twenty nineteen ninety seven oh one, a Bryson hole
Speaker 4: in one rombine skip it to an ace like some
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen stuff, and then nineteen eighty six, So that
Speaker 4: those are the views. It's it's up there, non Tiger,
Speaker 4: it's it's basically the most watched.
Speaker 6: Without looking it up, could you guys guess how much
Speaker 6: the winner takes home for winning this Masters.
Speaker 4: I know it because I looked it up.
Speaker 5: One hundred and eighty thousand dollars lower.
Speaker 6: One hundred and forty four thousand dollars which is the
Speaker 6: equivalent of finishing nineteenth in Vlero.
Speaker 4: This week, the total purse was eight hundred and five
Speaker 4: thousand total purse, which is you know what you know
Speaker 4: Lucas Glover makes for wiping his ass nowadays. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. Eight hundred five thousand dollars amazing. Inflation is
Speaker 4: is wonderful thing.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Lucas Clover, real quick, Brennan.
Speaker 6: Yeah, these golfers are forty six years old this year.
Speaker 6: Sergio Garcia, Graham McDowell, Bran Snedecker, Adam Scott is forty five.
Speaker 6: So with turning forty six this year and Lucas Glover,
Speaker 6: so one of those guys could give us storytale story
Speaker 6: fairytale ending this year and win the Masters.
Speaker 3: Just be Jack Reducts all over again.
Speaker 4: Rosie's forty five, I would say he's very legit. You
Speaker 4: gotta be turning forty six this year, probably not before now,
Speaker 4: in April whatever, but forty five feels like he feels
Speaker 4: like the one who could do it. Just incredible. You've
Speaker 4: laid out the characters and somehow they're all in the mix,
Speaker 4: good the bad to the end. The very last putt
Speaker 4: I did not realize, Greg Norman, honestly, I was three
Speaker 4: years old when this happened. Andy, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you were born. If you were, you were like a
Speaker 4: week old. Maybe I wasn't. I wasn't born yet. I
Speaker 4: wasn't about to be born, Okay, so we I Obviously,
Speaker 4: for a certain generation, it's honestly been reduced to yes, sir,
Speaker 4: and the putter rais like that is. I'm sure twenty
Speaker 4: five for a generation will be Rory falling to his
Speaker 4: knees and into like, you know, the Rose putt that
Speaker 4: missed the edge in the playoff. We won't think about.
Speaker 4: We barely see it anymore now a year later. But
Speaker 4: but for eighty six, it's been reduced to yes, sir,
Speaker 4: and the birdie at seventeen, which you know was a
Speaker 4: great birdie, but I'm not sure the best one. Maybe
Speaker 4: not the highlight of Jack's back nine, so much action.
Speaker 4: I thought, what and this was a throwaway line from
Speaker 4: Ken van Turia's Norman was scuffling about eighteen. They're like
Speaker 4: these broadcasters who are pretty stoic and deadpan, are trying
Speaker 4: to balance that, right, the master's tone and what is happening?
Speaker 4: And he throws it away. He goes, it's it's just
Speaker 4: everything seems to happen here. Is what Venturi said about
Speaker 4: how the stuff you couldn't write up in like if
Speaker 4: you were trying to pretend and script the most traumatic
Speaker 4: and ridiculous and amazing and breathtaking Majors just seems to happen.
Speaker 4: And he was he was talking about Seve's horrible shot
Speaker 4: into fifteen and Jack's charge. He goes, it's just just
Speaker 4: everything seems to happen here. And I thought that summed
Speaker 4: it up so well. It was in the middle of
Speaker 4: a monologue and he was he didn't know how to
Speaker 4: put it, and I thought that perfectly encapsulated this eighty
Speaker 4: six Masters, which we'll get into. He said, he's been
Speaker 4: coming here since fifty four. You can't remember a golf
Speaker 4: tournament like this. Ever, some are all said the same thing.
Speaker 4: Pat Summer on the eighteenth tower said the same thing.
Speaker 4: I've been here for nineteen years. So let's get to
Speaker 4: Jack and we'll do some big themes here at the top.
Speaker 4: By eighty six, he said, I was not the player
Speaker 4: I was fifteen years earlier. I've always thought the Masters
Speaker 4: was a young man's tournament because the speed of the greens,
Speaker 4: the firmness of the course, the demands it puts on
Speaker 4: your nerves. There's so many fine little shots you have
Speaker 4: to play there. Your game isn't right going in Augusta.
Speaker 4: It's sure as heck isn't the place to find it.
Speaker 4: He says similarly in Butler Cabinets getting his jacket, He's like,
Speaker 4: look Porthard and the speed you keep these greens. This
Speaker 4: is a young man's tournament. Now, I feel like that's
Speaker 4: sort of that's not the narrative here in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: In the twenty twenties, right, it's more there's like you
Speaker 4: have to have experience. You know, Freddy Couples is gonna
Speaker 4: shoot his sixty seven, and then you know Phil can
Speaker 4: still contend or Rose can, Like I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's still the narrative, but it was for Jack. This
Speaker 4: was his twenty eighth Masters would have been Tiger's twenty
Speaker 4: seven this year he's obviously not playing, So twenty eight
Speaker 4: twenty three years between wins from sixty three to eighty
Speaker 4: six the longest ever probably gonna hold up. I would
Speaker 4: just guess twenty three years between Majors or Masters is
Speaker 4: probably gonna hold up. The final nine holes remain the
Speaker 4: record for the lowest nine final nine of the tournament.
Speaker 4: You know, to seventy second hole. It's tied with Gary
Speaker 4: Player in seventy eight for thirty and Inward thirty on
Speaker 4: Sunday with a bogie on twelve. Pretty good, pretty good stretch.
Speaker 4: I also found it interesting there's only two guys where
Speaker 4: progressive scores have gotten better to win from Thursday through Sunday.
Speaker 4: He went seventy four, seventy one, sixty nine, sixty five,
Speaker 4: just all throughout. Marcomira is the only other one. Ironically enough,
Speaker 4: Jack also holds the record for progressive scores better going
Speaker 4: or worse, I should say worse. So he's done progressive
Speaker 4: scores worse, gone wire to wire, getting worse every day,
Speaker 4: and also done progressive scores better every day to win
Speaker 4: it with only our omera. It had been two years
Speaker 4: since his last tour win, and he's forty six, as
Speaker 4: you as you noted, previous winner of that of the
Speaker 4: oldest age all This previous winner was forty two Gary Player.
Speaker 4: Anything Jack, high level you want to get into here.
Speaker 4: We had heard so much about this that story is
Speaker 4: pretty well told. You've read in the papers that you know,
Speaker 4: he's not really a golfer anymore. He couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: That was pretty much the narrative coming in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One thing that I always just think about is like
Speaker 6: he leudes us to this. The very end of the
Speaker 6: thing was like, you know, my interests are kind of
Speaker 6: more in business now, and I'm I'm going to show
Speaker 6: you his business like stuff was kind of a mess.
Speaker 3: Like he he.
Speaker 6: Had made some bad investments, Like he was always kind
Speaker 6: of a little bit jealous of Arnie's like golden touch
Speaker 6: with business stuff and tried to keep like investing in
Speaker 6: various things. And that kind of has continued, like all
Speaker 6: throughout the next forty years of him making some not
Speaker 6: great investments or questionable business decisions. And it just so
Speaker 6: like there was a lot of weight to that of like,
Speaker 6: oh Jack, like you know, it needs to play well again,
Speaker 6: because like his he's kind of blown through some of
Speaker 6: his money and he's not quite figuring this shit out
Speaker 6: the way that Arnie always did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he in the in Butler Cabiny lids to like,
Speaker 4: I like doing this off the course stuff. You know,
Speaker 4: golf hasn't been my own focus. I like it but
Speaker 4: it seems like it was a distraction because of bad
Speaker 4: business and take you know, the business is going poorly.
Speaker 4: It was sort of the read between the lines, there
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think something I took away and.
Speaker 2: You know, big picture, I'm sure we'll talk about the telecast,
Speaker 2: but like the you know, you don't see every shot,
Speaker 2: but like one of the things I took away is
Speaker 2: like this is like the greatest back nine ever at Augusta.
Speaker 2: But from a sense, like you know, this is the
Speaker 2: thing that makes Augusta so cool. It's like he didn't
Speaker 2: do anything extraordinary and away, like he kind of just
Speaker 2: he took what, you know, the shot on sixteen to
Speaker 2: me was like the shot that was the best shot,
Speaker 2: but in terms of like he kind of just took
Speaker 2: what the golf course gave him.
Speaker 5: He made some.
Speaker 4: Putts, made some putts, rolled them in, but.
Speaker 2: Like the this is that that's the beauty of Augusta
Speaker 2: is like this score is out there. It's really hard
Speaker 2: to tactically avoid the mistakes at Augusta. But if you
Speaker 2: watched this round, you're kind of like I kind of
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I watched this years ago, but
Speaker 2: I had forgotten really like what propelled this round, and
Speaker 2: I kept watching being like wait, like when's he gonna
Speaker 2: make it move?
Speaker 5: When's he gonna make this move?
Speaker 2: And then it's just like, oh, like he's there because
Speaker 2: like you know, he doesn't appear on the first page
Speaker 2: of the leader board forever. But it kind of like
Speaker 2: cemented home to me the idea of like you don't
Speaker 2: have to be perfect out there, like it is just
Speaker 2: sitting out there for you if you can, just if
Speaker 2: your putter gets hot, or if you hit some really
Speaker 2: great shots. And what's more that you know, the big
Speaker 2: thing the more, the thing that kind of prohibits you
Speaker 2: is yourself destructing, and we saw a lot of that too.
Speaker 4: I think, like you talk about that, like he rolled
Speaker 4: into big putts. I think there was no like the
Speaker 4: best birdie watching this, I think was Norman at seventeen,
Speaker 4: which also got a yes, sir, I mean it. He
Speaker 4: did the andy ball, hit it onto the seventh green
Speaker 4: and like awful tug and somehow punched it through up
Speaker 4: onto the front of the green and made a birdie
Speaker 4: got his own big yes sir. I think that's the
Speaker 4: best birdie of this entire watch, or at least the
Speaker 4: last hour and a half. It felt like it the
Speaker 4: most miraculous birdie.
Speaker 2: I wrote this down, like the shot you know, this
Speaker 2: is the thing is like it gets you said this
Speaker 2: at the top, winds get reduced to like one moment,
Speaker 2: like the eighty six Masters that reduced to the punt
Speaker 2: on seventeen. Really, sometimes they back up to the shot
Speaker 2: into seventeen, and if you don't win, it just gets
Speaker 2: lost to history. Sure, Norman seventeenth whole insanity. Shot he
Speaker 2: hit into the green was so good. It's like one
Speaker 2: of the best shots I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: Well you'll see it.
Speaker 6: You'll see a little write up that Joseph and I did.
Speaker 6: We're coming out next week for best Shots and Master's History.
Speaker 3: But totally agree.
Speaker 6: I will say, you know, we said, like the shot
Speaker 6: in sixteen, shot in seventeen. Let's just be clear, though
Speaker 6: we don't have any footage of the shot into nine,
Speaker 6: the shot into ten, or the shot into eleven. Like
Speaker 6: the fact that he made a birdie on eleven is
Speaker 6: kind of bonker and we don't know, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 6: Like he's in the tournament at this point, like he's
Speaker 6: doing well enough to where they're paying attention to him.
Speaker 6: But Cebia still at this point is kind of figuring
Speaker 6: out how to cover a tournament with five six different
Speaker 6: people in here.
Speaker 3: If this were broadcast today like this, I.
Speaker 6: Think people would lose their mind because of all that
Speaker 6: we don't get to see that we just sort of
Speaker 6: take for granted. I mean some of the literally like
Speaker 6: you know big Like I'll just say this now, like
Speaker 6: there is no footage of Tom Kite and Sebby by Steros.
Speaker 4: On top chipping in on top.
Speaker 3: Of each other on eight. It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: They're like, we just heard word the top Titan semi
Speaker 2: five snus both eagles eight's like Sebby.
Speaker 6: Takes the lead in the Masters with a chip in
Speaker 6: and we don't have footage of it that ibout it
Speaker 6: has changed.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing is that twenty twenty two to fifteen
Speaker 4: of this video, Sebby appears on a leaderboard saying he's
Speaker 4: five under at twenty four forty four that's two minutes.
Speaker 4: It says he's leading it eight under. He went from
Speaker 4: five to eight in two minutes on the YouTube video.
Speaker 4: And I think McCord, I think it's McCord that had
Speaker 4: that eighth is am I Ron there it sounds like him,
Speaker 4: he said with the best. Not a lots happened here.
Speaker 4: Sevy hold the wedge from twenty five yards and Kite
Speaker 4: hold one from one hundred yards. Not much going on here,
Speaker 4: that's all. And nobody saw it. First time we see
Speaker 4: Jack is at the ninth Green, just putting without commentary.
Speaker 4: Musburg goes, let's go to ninth Green. Jack rolls in
Speaker 4: a putt, and no one says anything, and then they
Speaker 4: just go to like Ben Wright talking about someone hitting
Speaker 4: at Norman hitting on seven. Nobody says that that's the
Speaker 4: first time you ever see Jack is just that putting it,
Speaker 4: rolling in a putt at nine. First actual t shot
Speaker 4: is twelve. His first approach shot is thirteen, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, is the first time you ever see thirteen.
Speaker 4: For the whole day, it's Jack hitting out thirteen. Ben
Speaker 4: Torre's like, all right, let's go to thirteen. This is
Speaker 4: the first time you've seen this. Today. It's like the
Speaker 4: greatest par five in the world. It's incredible, different, different world.
Speaker 4: This is not a critique of what they were doing
Speaker 4: forty years ago. It's years ago.
Speaker 5: While we're here.
Speaker 2: I have to say there are some things that would
Speaker 2: drive the modern golf viewer insane. But there are also
Speaker 2: some facets to this telecast that I loved, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: how did I knew it? Like they're like, you watched
Speaker 2: this thing, and you in a way, like my general
Speaker 2: takeaway is like, has have golf telecasts gotten worse?
Speaker 4: I think that you being overly romantic about this broadcast
Speaker 4: and I understand what was better and what appealed to
Speaker 4: you as being better than current, But it was probably
Speaker 4: great for its time. People lose their mind if this
Speaker 4: is what they dropped in or left today.
Speaker 2: I think, like the general things, there was more more
Speaker 2: a little bit more storytelling than the modern telecast.
Speaker 5: There was more time given to actions, which.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if we want to get
Speaker 2: to like my favorite moment of the telecast of the
Speaker 2: whole thing. But one of the things that I loved
Speaker 2: was the intro, the table setting of each hole, the
Speaker 2: back line where they go to the guy. You know,
Speaker 2: they run through everybody on their hole because at that
Speaker 2: time they had a different person for every single hole on.
Speaker 4: The back line. The details there, Bob Murphy, Yeah you
Speaker 4: want the names or not? Yeah, Bob Murphy, it's great.
Speaker 2: This is what they used to do so, but they
Speaker 2: go through, and they go through, this is where the
Speaker 2: whole location is. Yeah, this is how the holes played
Speaker 2: this week, you know, scoring average like and this is
Speaker 2: what to expect today.
Speaker 5: And it introduces each of these voices if you go
Speaker 5: through the voices.
Speaker 2: But it was such a wonderful way to to interject
Speaker 2: the course into and give viewers like a hey, this
Speaker 2: is what's coming up.
Speaker 5: And they did it in like three minutes time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They opened Bob Murphy on ten, Steve Melnick, you know,
Speaker 4: the r en Amateur on ten, eleven and twelve, Ken
Speaker 4: Ventury as we mentioned on thirteen, four hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: five yard thirteenth Pole in nineteen eighty six, Gary McCord fourteen,
Speaker 4: Ben Wright fifteen, who became sort of the star of
Speaker 4: the show. Nance sixteen, Vern seventeen. They just go one.
Speaker 4: This is Nance's first ever Masters.
Speaker 3: At sixteen six years old. So I think that may
Speaker 3: be right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, Vern seventeen, as we know,
Speaker 4: Pat summerl and eighteen with Ventury kind of coming back
Speaker 4: and providing more of the golf commentary. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 4: They go from one to the next and they talk
Speaker 4: about their whole. They do not do that. It's much
Speaker 4: more consolidated with fewer voices now.
Speaker 6: Kind of it's fun, Like I kept thinking about that,
Speaker 6: like that, would the Masters be better without like Nance
Speaker 6: and Trevor, like being the overarching or Nens and Faldo,
Speaker 6: like if eg hole had its own individual voice. I
Speaker 6: don't know, Like I like Dance obviously like Trevor, but
Speaker 6: it is kind of fun that they had, Like the
Speaker 6: character of.
Speaker 3: The whole comes through without each announcer.
Speaker 2: I loved Ben Wright though he's the a couple so much.
Speaker 3: Ben Wright exchanges that I'd like to read in my
Speaker 3: best Ben, Well, we'll.
Speaker 4: Get that, so Musburger and Weiscoffer in the cabin. But
Speaker 4: you're right, there is no like predominant voice. They set
Speaker 4: up a few things, they come in out of break,
Speaker 4: but they're not like the they're not the conductor in
Speaker 4: the way there that it is now and it's just
Speaker 4: sort of like, all right, the action's all on fifteen
Speaker 4: for this forty five minutes. It's just basically Ben Wright's broadcast,
Speaker 4: you know, with with occasionally sprinkle an a and go
Speaker 4: back to Venturi at thirteen, and you'll like occasionally go
Speaker 4: back to the cabin for Musburger and that's it the opening.
Speaker 4: I guess we can go linear here what we talked
Speaker 4: about Jack, I just want to mention, like Norman, there's
Speaker 4: a real this was what I forgot, Okay, I was young.
Speaker 4: There's like a Rory twenty five element to his round.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's synonymous to like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: this is the greatest stretch of golf I've ever seen before,
Speaker 4: birdies in a row with fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen. There
Speaker 4: is like, this guy is this This guy is brutal,
Speaker 4: like he's thrown it away, like just the roller coaster
Speaker 4: of tension. There was a little bit of that that
Speaker 4: we saw last year. I I when he made the
Speaker 4: double at ten, I was like, oh, he's off the
Speaker 4: broadcast right Like when he made I was like, that's it.
Speaker 4: And I know he literally has a putt for the
Speaker 4: playoff down to the wire, makeuple putt. It's crazy. The
Speaker 4: roller coaster. There was a Rory element. Would you agree
Speaker 4: with that, Andy, or you know, obviously different outcomes and stuff.
Speaker 2: This kind of goes to a bigger, bigger thing for me,
Speaker 2: a bigger theme of the telecast there's absolutely like the Seesaw.
Speaker 2: I just love the variability of the sport of golf
Speaker 2: in this era. I think I watching this, I saw
Speaker 2: some of like the greatest shots that I've seen on
Speaker 2: holes in a while, Like you know this, I think
Speaker 2: this like ties to like it made me kind of
Speaker 2: hate like that everybody's figured out this like modern strategy
Speaker 2: of aiming away from flags because like on eleven, you
Speaker 2: can't tell me that tom Kite did not just take
Speaker 2: full like right at the stick and it was like
Speaker 2: I want when it landed, I was like, oh my god, Like.
Speaker 5: That's one of the best shots I've ever seen on eleven.
Speaker 6: The two shots that tom Kite hits, like into eleven
Speaker 6: and into eighteen are as good as any shot that
Speaker 6: you will see like in the Masters any year.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are just ballsy at the pin shots.
Speaker 2: And the shot on eleven, I was like, God, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen a ball just flagged to that back left
Speaker 2: pin in so long.
Speaker 5: It feels like just so long.
Speaker 2: Everybody just dumps it right and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this guy just flagged it. But then the variability aspect
Speaker 2: of this and I think a lot of it, Like
Speaker 2: I don't want to be, you know, bagging out equipment,
Speaker 2: but I think so much of this is equipment. Some
Speaker 2: of the worst shots I've ever seen, like ever seen.
Speaker 2: I had a list many, like seventy shot into fifteen
Speaker 2: which ruined his chance to win, was horrendous. Corey Pavin
Speaker 2: into sixteen was just awful and.
Speaker 5: The guy could have won.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Norman in eighteen.
Speaker 5: Norman into eighteen.
Speaker 2: There, but like there's like a reason for that, is
Speaker 2: like Corey Paven or I mean not Corey Pavin. Tom
Speaker 2: Kite on ten was hitting a four iron.
Speaker 4: I think I wrote that it was a four iron.
Speaker 5: Four iron into ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are hitting six irons into six, Like
Speaker 2: it's just like a completely different Like they're talking about
Speaker 2: sixteen being a mid iron.
Speaker 5: I think got twelve they said it was a mid iron.
Speaker 4: Yeah I had that, Yeah, And it's just a.
Speaker 5: Completely different sport.
Speaker 2: But there was so much more variability. The shots in
Speaker 2: the moments still great, like so many great shots, Like
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how many great shots that were into fifteen,
Speaker 2: like over and over and over.
Speaker 5: Again in this telecast.
Speaker 2: But then you also get these like god awful shots
Speaker 2: which made the product like just the golf way more interesting.
Speaker 2: And I feel like anybody who's anti rollback, anti the
Speaker 2: sport for the professionals being challenging, should watch this telecast
Speaker 2: and be like, wait, I could watch Greg Norman just
Speaker 2: snaff hooked two shots in a row on the tenth hole,
Speaker 2: like into the trees, and he could be leading the tournament.
Speaker 2: Like it kind of goes to the Norman thing, like
Speaker 2: that Norman round had some of the most miraculous shots
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, like the seventeenth and some of the
Speaker 2: worst shots I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think too.
Speaker 6: You you just see like what an incredible like athlete
Speaker 6: Greig Norman was. To see the sounds of the ball
Speaker 6: coming off of his driver is awesome. It's so cool
Speaker 6: to see him just like take those big high hands
Speaker 6: and just absolutely you know, every shot sounds so pure
Speaker 6: because they had to freaking hit it pure then or
Speaker 6: it was gonna be a like an ugly little you know,
Speaker 6: smother hook.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a unit too. That was like I'm just like, well,
Speaker 5: I was like, physically imposing.
Speaker 4: The sound is something I made know of that earlier.
Speaker 4: I think it was Nick Price or Nicky Price who's
Speaker 4: playing in the final group with he had a three
Speaker 4: wood on seven and it made just this like erotic sound.
Speaker 4: It was like incredible, and you just get a lot
Speaker 4: more of that throughout the broadcast. All right, yeah, we
Speaker 4: just had to call out Norman. I just did not
Speaker 4: remember the details of just how roller if it's not Nicholas,
Speaker 4: and it's not Nicholas six jackets at forty six. Very
Speaker 4: few things were not going to make Norman story a
Speaker 4: story one the way it ended, the way the Sunday went,
Speaker 4: like absolutely in a modern era he would have been
Speaker 4: the biggest story coming out of that. It's just you
Speaker 4: had the greatest master champion when he was presumed over
Speaker 4: the hill. Like in a lot of ways, Norman was
Speaker 4: sort of The Sunday and that eighteenth Pole are sort
Speaker 4: of I don't know, carpeted, blanketed over thanks to Jack,
Speaker 4: thanks to the being reduced to yes, sir, and Jack's
Speaker 4: charge because this was a pretty incomprehensible round from Norman.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go ahead, keV, you're gonna jump in there.
Speaker 6: I'll just say it's like like Greg Norman's entire career
Speaker 6: in miniature, like you start with.
Speaker 3: The lead, you throw it away.
Speaker 6: You have the most unbelievable run you could ever imagine,
Speaker 6: like four birdies in a row, and then you hit
Speaker 6: a great drive on eighteen and then you completely hit
Speaker 6: it so far into the crowd that I've never seen
Speaker 6: a ball like up there in the sense, and you
Speaker 6: have a putt still to die and you miss it
Speaker 6: like that's Greg Norman. It's just like the the agony
Speaker 6: and ecstasy of all of it real quick.
Speaker 2: We'd be remiss to not point out Norman had a
Speaker 2: threewood off the tee.
Speaker 4: Did he did?
Speaker 5: Did you write down what club he was hitting in?
Speaker 2: The longest player in the sport at this time, maybe
Speaker 2: not the longest, but one of the longest players in
Speaker 2: the sport at this time. On the eighteenth hole, Augusta
Speaker 2: hit a perfect t shot with what he wanted to
Speaker 2: do the three wood. Obviously that laid him back a
Speaker 2: little bit, but he is hitting a four iron into
Speaker 2: the green, and obviously when you're hitting a four iron,
Speaker 2: shit can go wrong.
Speaker 5: Rory had like one hundred yards in last year.
Speaker 6: It just it's fun to watch the flight. You can't
Speaker 6: see it all that great of like the drives whatever,
Speaker 6: but it's like, you know, a low like cut that
Speaker 6: the that was like part of how the ball was
Speaker 6: launched back in the day, right, Like you didn't just
Speaker 6: freaking sky it into the air and let it carry
Speaker 6: three fifteen twenty, like you had to hit it two
Speaker 6: fifty and then get thirty yards of roll out of it.
Speaker 3: And that was just like kind of a it's fun
Speaker 3: to see that when you look back at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a four iron it is. We'll get to it.
Speaker 4: It's not the biggest house on the Van Develt block,
Speaker 4: but it certainly has a home on the Van Develt
Speaker 4: block and belongs there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it I took more offense to
Speaker 2: this putt than I took to the four iron bought.
Speaker 4: That's you know, six inches on the high side. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not great.
Speaker 5: But you can't like takeaway was he doing a four iron?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't hit it on the ted t. You
Speaker 4: can't like all you got just bum one up to
Speaker 4: the front of the green.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that far the camera and like where the
Speaker 2: camera was looking in the in the patron gallery was
Speaker 2: was the issue.
Speaker 5: It made it look way worse than it was.
Speaker 2: Any Any pro could hit a four if I dropped
Speaker 2: the pro two hundred yards going up that hill, which
Speaker 2: would be a foe iron.
Speaker 5: There'd be a bucket of balls over there on the right.
Speaker 6: Okay, now granted it hits the people, so it would
Speaker 6: have rolled another twenty five yards right of that.
Speaker 4: What ends up fifteen minutes. They were hot and deep
Speaker 4: where he hit. It took fifteen minutes to move. All
Speaker 4: these people of an advanced age are kind of shuffle
Speaker 4: in their feet. It takes forever to clear out the space.
Speaker 2: On the I'm just say it's in the realm of
Speaker 2: possibilities if you're hitting a four iron into the green.
Speaker 4: Sure, I understand that said.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys did any of your
Speaker 6: homework and getting some of the assets here, but I
Speaker 6: think we have some some visual aids here to help
Speaker 6: us tell some of the story.
Speaker 4: Okay, I took screenshots and didn't sound the on the
Speaker 4: pj's what I did. Well, then just operation Kevin.
Speaker 6: You can still send a people. I just want to
Speaker 6: start out page. Hopefully you can load some of my
Speaker 6: first ones.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 6: I would really would like to bring back the era
Speaker 6: of where adult men could wear glasses and still be
Speaker 6: sort of cool.
Speaker 3: I would just like to take you through this. This
Speaker 3: is Tom Kite.
Speaker 5: Earlier wearing glasses, right.
Speaker 6: I know this is well, this is why we need
Speaker 6: to make sure that glasses are cool again. My father
Speaker 6: wore a pair of glasses that are just like Verne
Speaker 6: lundquists in this. We can go to the next frame.
Speaker 6: Here we have Ken Green here. These are these are
Speaker 6: all from this era of this tournament. Next we have
Speaker 6: Bob Murphy here, just an incredible transition lenses.
Speaker 3: And then Vern here is great, and then uh.
Speaker 6: Tommy Nakajima here is to finish the clothes these are.
Speaker 6: It's an incredible era for just like you know, if
Speaker 6: you didn't have contact. I mean, a running theme throughout
Speaker 6: this entire thing is that Jack can't see You're gonna
Speaker 6: have such terrible vision that he can't know where the
Speaker 6: ball is. And obviously Jack was probably too vain to
Speaker 6: wear glasses like this, but I want to just, you know,
Speaker 6: give a shout out to Tom Kite. Didn't want any
Speaker 6: part of that. He wanted to be able to see
Speaker 6: the ball where it was. I whatevery. I don't know
Speaker 6: if you fell about it this way, but when I
Speaker 6: tried to golf in glasses, it completely makes me like crazy.
Speaker 6: I just see the frame out of the corner of
Speaker 6: my eye, and I cannot make contact with ball and
Speaker 6: he's which to me is tough.
Speaker 5: The one time I've been forced to play.
Speaker 2: So I got I had an eye infection in my
Speaker 2: mid twenties and I got diagnosed with it basically like
Speaker 2: two days before a golf tournament that I was playing in,
Speaker 2: and it was my first round in glasses, and since
Speaker 2: like I was a kid, and it was funny. I
Speaker 2: actually remember I played with. I was playing with Roger Steele.
Speaker 2: This was pre This was pre both of our our
Speaker 2: forays into golf.
Speaker 3: Pre influencers. That's the influence origin story.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of things going on with me
Speaker 2: that day as I was trying to figure out where
Speaker 2: I struggled with the golf was was like thirty to
Speaker 2: fifty yards. I had no depth perception with the glass glasses.
Speaker 2: But anyways, you know, you know anybody that seen rogerhood
Speaker 2: golf ball in the third hole, I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? I just how did this drive of this
Speaker 2: guy's one hundred yards past me? But anyways, I ended
Speaker 2: up shooting going out in forty four. I was struggled.
Speaker 2: I struggled with the glasses. I came home in thirty two,
Speaker 2: which which qualified me luckily, thankfully, But the h the
Speaker 2: glasses were real problem.
Speaker 4: Well, it was in.
Speaker 5: I think if you played it with them all the time,
Speaker 5: you get used to it.
Speaker 4: Though for sure Tom Kite never went away from it
Speaker 4: as far as I know, right, I mean, did you
Speaker 4: play Champs Tour with with glasses?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 5: Well about the top tight a set?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I had a question for you, guys, what do you
Speaker 2: think Tom Kite and Sevy talked about all day?
Speaker 4: It's a little different dynamic. Well, I there's a lot
Speaker 4: of that going on out there. Watson was with is
Speaker 4: with Nakajima. Do I have that right? I mean, that's
Speaker 4: an odd pairing. Kite and Sevvy seemed like from two
Speaker 4: different cloths, for sure.
Speaker 2: They seem like the two most polar opposite, polar opposite
Speaker 2: personalities in this tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, glasses were big. Visors were big. Everybody's wearing a visor.
Speaker 3: A lot of hats, have a lot of hats.
Speaker 6: Did you notice that Langer takes the visor off and
Speaker 6: on at various points in the day like some like
Speaker 6: a true actually using the visor for some purposes as
Speaker 6: opposed to like an activation. Sometimes he's wearing the visor,
Speaker 6: sometimes he's not.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I mean with the Tommy Fleetwood Blackstone hat, I think
Speaker 2: it's just time to cancel uh hat sponsorships on tour.
Speaker 4: Just get rid of it. Yeah, be so much better.
Speaker 2: Well, roll up an email say this should be part
Speaker 2: of this is how you grow the audience.
Speaker 6: So I have one image that kind of ties together
Speaker 6: a lot of these things we're talking about page if
Speaker 6: you can bring next on up. This is of Jay
Speaker 6: Haas and this is kind of emblematic of the kind
Speaker 6: of shoulder turns that they took back then and the
Speaker 6: way that swings were. Like he is completely up on
Speaker 6: his uh you know, weight into the inside of his
Speaker 6: right foot, but toe is like all that's touching the
Speaker 6: ground and the visor here, and the the kind of
Speaker 6: aqua I guess what would be the description of those pants,
Speaker 6: like kind of teal pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, blue, tealish blue.
Speaker 6: But this is like, you know, Jay Hawston's up finishing
Speaker 6: fifth or something.
Speaker 3: This is how guys swung the club back in the day.
Speaker 6: You can see it a lot with Nicholas, just like
Speaker 6: the big leg drive, none of that sort of stable
Speaker 6: kind of beautiful. You know what we think of like
Speaker 6: Rory Adams Scott justin Rose's motion and I.
Speaker 3: Just honestly it looks awesome.
Speaker 6: The aesthetic of like watching guys have to kind of
Speaker 6: really like get their weight back and then wail into
Speaker 6: the ball is is freaking cool to see.
Speaker 2: I mean with this, it was also it seemed like
Speaker 2: a toasty day in Augusta and the fabrics, the fabrics, yes.
Speaker 5: Up for a toasty day. I had a question for
Speaker 5: p J. P J, did you watch this?
Speaker 7: I watched parts of it, but once we just decided
Speaker 7: that you three were going ahead, I did not commit
Speaker 7: all three hours.
Speaker 2: I had a question for you, as you know, was
Speaker 2: it was Jay Hass a problem?
Speaker 7: I mean, Jay Haas might have been a problem when
Speaker 7: when we when we discussed potential twenty tens problems, there
Speaker 7: were people that submitted Bill has As a problem. But
Speaker 7: I said he was too good to be a problem.
Speaker 7: As a former number one player in the world, Jay Haas,
Speaker 7: I'd give you though.
Speaker 4: I mean Jay was everybody career of Bill. I mean,
Speaker 4: he'll never.
Speaker 3: Finished like Bill was ever contending in the Masters.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: It was a listed player.
Speaker 7: Jay has FedEx cups.
Speaker 4: The film wasn't yeah, oh god, that's good.
Speaker 5: But I wrote that down just for PJ. I wanted
Speaker 5: to ask Jaws a problem.
Speaker 6: One point go ahead. I was just say, at one
Speaker 6: point Jay like this, we were talking about miss shots whatever.
Speaker 6: At one point, Jay like hits it into sixteen like
Speaker 6: it's an unbelievable shot in sixteen to four feet, and
Speaker 6: we never get to see him miss the putt like
Speaker 6: he likes a shot to essentially like try the lead
Speaker 6: at the time, and it just later we come back
Speaker 6: and yeah.
Speaker 3: And Nance's like, you know, wow, we're wait.
Speaker 6: I was Ben Crenshaw made his putt Portunately, Jay Haas
Speaker 6: missed his.
Speaker 2: You know what I think they didn't have the capability
Speaker 2: of was to tape a shot and show it later later, yeah,
Speaker 2: because did you notice it was I think it was
Speaker 2: Norman was playing and they had to like hammer cut
Speaker 2: to Jack putting out on eighteen and he barely got there.
Speaker 2: He was like taking the like as soon as he
Speaker 2: got there, he's seeing the pudding out to win the Masters.
Speaker 6: Well, it's always like they're talking the announcers, they're talking
Speaker 6: to each other about the end the camera at the
Speaker 6: same time because you.
Speaker 3: Hear a lot where Vert's like quickly now to fourteen.
Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, it's there's some some sort of rudimentary
Speaker 4: like broadcasts. It's rough. It was forty years ago. It's incredible,
Speaker 4: incredible stuff. Let's start uh linearly a little bit. The
Speaker 4: broadcast opens, Musburger leads us in. It's Musburger and Weisskopf
Speaker 4: Show for the first like ten to fifteen minutes. In
Speaker 4: the cabin, I thought wes Coff was great. I thought
Speaker 4: he was pretty crop well. That was where I had.
Speaker 4: It's like helicopter going down Jakie helicopter footage going down
Speaker 4: Magolia Lane. I'm getting Vertico. I need drama, mean, and
Speaker 4: there's just like bouncing down. It was probably like mind
Speaker 4: blowing at the time that they had this aerial footage.
Speaker 4: But uh he refers to it as the Augusta National
Speaker 4: Home of the Masters. It's Golf's greatest stage, as it
Speaker 4: was called. I mean, this is eighty six, I don't know,
Speaker 4: masters pretty firmly entrenched. But he said a tradition unlike
Speaker 4: any other. So we have that tagline already getting used,
Speaker 4: and said the Green Jacket the most prestigious prize in
Speaker 4: all of golf, which I don't know. Was that the
Speaker 4: case in eighty six already I guess, so I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying it was like you know, yesterday,
Speaker 4: but the US Open was prominent. It was already by
Speaker 4: CBS standards, most prestigious prize and all of golf. Everything
Speaker 4: is just much more minimalist. There are like twelve umbrella tables.
Speaker 4: You know they do the overhead footage. Now there's probably
Speaker 4: you know, thirty plus or something like that. So we
Speaker 4: lead into that. Weiscoff was good in the cab and
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, they've got I like how they
Speaker 4: go through the history of winners. They've got Jimmy de
Speaker 4: Merritt looking like a news newsy, like in a newsboy cap.
Speaker 4: They've got you know, Arnold and everybody white T shirt.
Speaker 4: It's just like a great montage of all the all
Speaker 4: the former winners. Then you have Weiscoff talking about this
Speaker 4: is an incredible course. No rough here, but you need
Speaker 4: strategy off the tee. So it's unlike all the other
Speaker 4: majors because you're used to just rough apparently, you know,
Speaker 4: this is the mid eighties of the US Open. You're
Speaker 4: used to rough at the PGA. This is unlike the
Speaker 4: other majors. No, rough the great thing. You know, early
Speaker 4: on we get Nick Price's left of six talks about
Speaker 4: the great thing about Augusta as you can do three
Speaker 4: things from off of every green just about as he's
Speaker 4: gonna bump and run and he's gonna put it, he's
Speaker 4: gonna go up in the air. So Wiscoff I thought
Speaker 4: was pretty good throughout the broadcast. And of course has
Speaker 4: that great history with Jack being from Ohio, Ohio state kid,
Speaker 4: and you know snake bitten a little bit by Jack
Speaker 4: certainly over the years in the shadow. So anything else
Speaker 4: from early on, Kevin we talked about the missed eagles.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't see Jack until the ninth we do.
Speaker 4: The earliest Hollday show is the fifth I believe they
Speaker 4: show highlights from earlier holes, but we pick up the
Speaker 4: leaders on the fifth green. And Gary player for reasons
Speaker 4: that aren't entirely clear, is in the cabin with some
Speaker 4: early commentary before he abruptly has to catch his playing.
Speaker 4: Is just on camera, like roughly taking his mic off
Speaker 4: his lapel, like.
Speaker 3: I actually have a picture of this.
Speaker 6: Gary looks like he's on a late night talk show here,
Speaker 6: like he's like talking to Johnny Carson at this point, Well,
Speaker 6: you know, Johnny, this is where they ask him, you know, Gary,
Speaker 6: what do you how do you feel about all these
Speaker 6: foreigners playing?
Speaker 1: Gary?
Speaker 3: Do you like seeing all these foreigners playing so well?
Speaker 3: And he says, you know, Bobby Jones always said is
Speaker 3: a worldly game. I you know, I'm a foreigner myself.
Speaker 6: It was a this theme will kind of run throughout
Speaker 6: the show of like foreigners slash invaders. Yeah, if you know,
Speaker 6: somehow it's an upfront to the masters that these foreigners
Speaker 6: are winning. You know, Stevey's already won twice at this point,
Speaker 6: the idea that like this is true of like, if
Speaker 6: you read like the classic Golf Digest story that Dan
Speaker 6: Jenkins wrote, this is the first year that Dan Jenkins
Speaker 6: was not writing for Sports Illustrated. You had gone to
Speaker 6: Golf Digest. Rick Riley is now writing for Sports Illustrated,
Speaker 6: and the lead to Jenkins's story is Jack. No one's
Speaker 6: killed more foreigners than Jack Nicholas except maybe Dwight D.
Speaker 3: Eisenhower.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, one of the.
Speaker 6: Great like holy shit Jenkins lines of all time. So
Speaker 6: that air was out there at this time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, foreigners than Donald Trump, Like what if we wrote
Speaker 4: that the start of a newsletter like in twenty six.
Speaker 6: I'll just write there for the newsletter this year and
Speaker 6: see if anyone notices that it's a tribute, or see
Speaker 6: if we get canceled.
Speaker 4: So the first time foreigner comes up and this was
Speaker 4: just the lexicon was priced on the fifth green, and
Speaker 4: Player goes, I don't believe in the word. We're all
Speaker 4: just golferst is what he said. I don't believe in
Speaker 4: the word. And then someone again, I think Weiskoff or Musburger,
Speaker 4: asked him about the foreigners, and he says it just
Speaker 4: makes his blood boil as much Player when they referred that,
Speaker 4: like makes my blood boil, and Musburgers later like it's
Speaker 4: kind of us against the world when he starts talking
Speaker 4: about jacketing the mix because you have you know, Lanner
Speaker 4: and Price and Norman and Nakajima. It's just this foreigner
Speaker 4: is the worst.
Speaker 6: And this is I have a graphic of this speech
Speaker 6: if you go to my next photo here, like this
Speaker 6: is the graphic that they throw up on the screen
Speaker 6: for and more like as if like it's an alert
Speaker 6: for Americans, like you know, how how we need to
Speaker 6: fix the Masters here. In some ways, that is part
Speaker 6: of what plays into the like love that people have
Speaker 6: of this eighty six Masters is that it was like
Speaker 6: Nicholas was defending our turf as Americans against this foreign invasion,
Speaker 6: and it just percolates throughout all the coverage of it.
Speaker 2: For audio listeners, the graphics has foreign born players have
Speaker 2: won four of the last eight titles.
Speaker 6: And this is a Norman putting at this moment as
Speaker 6: if he might be the next one.
Speaker 3: You know what, low key, I love this old Master's
Speaker 3: logo that you don't see anymore. It's like a great scripting.
Speaker 6: I would absolutely buy a T shirt that had that
Speaker 6: as the logo on on the front.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Sure, they'll be working on the cook of that up
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty seven for you.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's in there in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: One thing that impressed me Sam Sneed swing at seventy
Speaker 2: five when they go they.
Speaker 5: Show the champ God he moved it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, honorary starter.
Speaker 6: Yeah this is Brennan knows this because I've joked about
Speaker 6: them with a bunch of times. But later Sneed just
Speaker 6: drills a fan in the face during the ceremonial t
Speaker 6: shot in later years and it's the last year that
Speaker 6: Sneed is ever allowed to do this shot. He broke
Speaker 6: somebody's glasses and the chairman, I forget it is the
Speaker 6: time I have to look this up. This is like
Speaker 6: a New York Times story, I think, and like drills
Speaker 6: a guy in the face and the chairman goes, oh my.
Speaker 4: The quote.
Speaker 2: Also, and I think it was Gary Player, said sev
Speaker 2: He described Savvy as the golfer everyone feared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, great quote there.
Speaker 6: He said he's got he's got strength in the finesse
Speaker 6: of a locksmith.
Speaker 4: A locksmith, locksmith, And then they asked him what does
Speaker 4: that mean, Tom, what does what locksmith mean? And weis
Speaker 4: Coffe I don't think was the one who said it
Speaker 4: at first, like oh, well, he's got good hands, good touch.
Speaker 4: He was known as like the power players, like the
Speaker 4: raw power is what they kept saying. And when Gary
Speaker 4: Player is leaving and ripping the microphone off his lapel,
Speaker 4: they ask him, like, who's gonna win, and he's like,
Speaker 4: if it's the best player, who will win, it's definitely
Speaker 4: by Asteros, because he is for sure the best player
Speaker 4: in the world. And that's what just the sort of
Speaker 4: the rough nature of like you know how everything's so
Speaker 4: polished now going to the cabin and there's Gary Player
Speaker 4: like ripping his microphone off and having to be bothered
Speaker 4: to still talk and then like whole lean it up,
Speaker 4: like it's an influencer. Mike, like what you go? I
Speaker 4: want to me keep talking. It's just all on camera.
Speaker 4: It's kind of incredible, but he exits the stage.
Speaker 2: I think this would be uh like it would lead
Speaker 2: Sports Center, this story going into Sunday the Masters, and
Speaker 2: it's just a footnote. The one guy in like the
Speaker 2: final four groups that's a complete no name, Donnie Hammond.
Speaker 5: He's in contention. He pukes all over himself on Sunday.
Speaker 5: Let's be fair.
Speaker 2: He just just first they show him he's hitting a
Speaker 2: miserable shot.
Speaker 5: Donnie Hammond, he's in contention.
Speaker 2: I think he was in the second or third to last,
Speaker 2: third to last group of the Masters, and as a kid,
Speaker 2: he was the gallery guard at the Masters growing up.
Speaker 5: It was his first Masters they ever played in.
Speaker 2: Like this is like the one of the most incredible
Speaker 2: stories and it's just like a footnote of the broadcast
Speaker 2: and I'd never heard of it.
Speaker 3: This would be like a seven to eight minute.
Speaker 6: Like Jeff Darlington, Tom Ranald the essay that the Masters
Speaker 6: put on where this everybody would be sharing it on
Speaker 6: social Oh my god, a gallery guard is playing in
Speaker 6: the Masters.
Speaker 3: Not only playing is the contending.
Speaker 5: Group on Sundays.
Speaker 4: He was in the second to last group with the
Speaker 4: defending champ, Bernhard Loner with the second defending champ, number
Speaker 4: one player in the world, in the second to last group.
Speaker 4: It was his first Masters. He was a gallery guard
Speaker 4: as a kid. I think he still holds the record
Speaker 4: for low round for a rookie. In the third round
Speaker 4: she got sixty seven on Saturday. It was easy on
Speaker 4: Saturday relatively, and then Sunday easy ish with no win.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a little soft. Not to be.
Speaker 4: It seems soft with the way the balls were landing
Speaker 4: on twelve thirteen, not a lot of around fifteen, honest
Speaker 4: to god, with about an hour of fifty. It felt
Speaker 4: like we saw the Rory shot of fifteen like five
Speaker 4: times over from different guys, just dropping balls within makeable distance.
Speaker 4: Notating there, but it just is. It's a little softish,
Speaker 4: no wind, and so Saturday we'll talk about Nick Price
Speaker 4: in a minute.
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, I think people remember, I've had to
Speaker 6: know that Ben Crenshaw hit a three wood and it
Speaker 6: stopped on the green from two forty. Like, can you
Speaker 6: imagine trying to stop at three wood on the current
Speaker 6: fifteen green at Augusta.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 6: I think you would probably have to hit it so
Speaker 6: low into the face, like a ten feet from the water,
Speaker 6: that it's somehow kicked up and got just completely lucky.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any scenario which you could take
Speaker 6: a hundred balls and not stop a threewood on the green.
Speaker 4: It's amazing how much the ball was stopping.
Speaker 2: On I found it was interesting though, like shots into nine,
Speaker 2: the ball just reacted a lot differently, like sometimes they
Speaker 2: bounce forward.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it's.
Speaker 2: Because of just like the angle that some shot, like
Speaker 2: the uphill shots in particular, to be like really released.
Speaker 5: And it's just because these guys were just not hitting
Speaker 5: just wedges.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's just crazy the way to
Speaker 2: watch something and be like wow, like well, I'm just
Speaker 2: used to I know how the ball's going to react
Speaker 2: when these guys hit it, and when the modern players
Speaker 2: hit it, when it hit the green. Yeah, with these guys,
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was kind of like guesswork how
Speaker 2: the ball was going to react when it hit the green.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so go ahead.
Speaker 6: Just my memory of the Masters as a young person
Speaker 6: is just balls like sucking back. Like all the time,
Speaker 6: guys would hit it long of greens. You know, they're
Speaker 6: they're hitting it ten yards past the green knowing there's
Speaker 6: no rough back there and it's just gonna zip back.
Speaker 6: Like Greg Norman was like an incredible, like high spin player,
Speaker 6: and with those lot of balls, it just made it
Speaker 6: like kind of cool and interesting because like you never
Speaker 6: knew what the ball was going to do until it
Speaker 6: was stopped.
Speaker 3: It was going to react in cool ways.
Speaker 2: I think there you know, and this was said early
Speaker 2: in the telecast. It got my attention. It made me
Speaker 2: research further.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: We talked about the variability how these guys hit, I
Speaker 2: mean just amazing shots but also awful shots. Nick Price's tournament,
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of like a supporting character and this
Speaker 2: never really a lead in it. Never never once where
Speaker 2: you like Nick Price is gonna win. Obviously you got
Speaker 2: to number one in the world in his career, but
Speaker 2: he made he birdied ten of the last fifteen holes
Speaker 2: on Saturday ten of the last fifteen holes.
Speaker 4: I was like, what flipped out on eighteen too?
Speaker 6: He opens with a seventy nine and in the same
Speaker 6: tournament shoots a sixty three that still holds up as
Speaker 6: the course record.
Speaker 5: And this was the year after Curtis Strange opened with.
Speaker 2: An eighty eight and was leading on the sixty fourth
Speaker 2: whole tea.
Speaker 5: The tenth te he was leading by what was it
Speaker 5: three or four?
Speaker 4: He walked across from nine grain to ten. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: up three.
Speaker 2: So this idea of variability was so much greater in
Speaker 2: the sport at this time. You can shoot seventy nine
Speaker 2: or eighty in the Masters and not your urnam's out.
Speaker 5: Over two years in a row, you.
Speaker 2: Have a guy playing in the final group that shot
Speaker 2: seventy nine or eighty on Thursday. To me is like
Speaker 2: it kind of just exemplifies like where what happened to
Speaker 2: the sport?
Speaker 4: Ten birdies lips out on eleven, lips out for eleven
Speaker 4: on eighteen sixty three is still the course record, and
Speaker 4: the Masters with Norman's opening round in ninety six still
Speaker 4: the course right. The only two now like a bunch
Speaker 4: of sixty threes. It was price in eighty six. Norman
Speaker 4: in ninety six, incredible stuff he puts out on eighteen.
Speaker 4: I thought this was great for Price Summer all who's
Speaker 4: just got the low slow cadence and he's in the
Speaker 4: tire Nick Price, who shot sixty three yesterday, but this
Speaker 4: is today, and he like puts out he's just in
Speaker 4: the way of Norman. He's like, that's but this is today,
Speaker 4: and it's just like get out away.
Speaker 6: I think this might have been like a CBS way
Speaker 6: of talking, because Nance does it later too. I think
Speaker 6: I figured out Nance's cadence, particularly in this era. Is
Speaker 6: there are no commas in Nance's sentence. It's a lot
Speaker 6: of short sentences with the pauses in between and I'll
Speaker 6: I'll do one later, like as he sets up the
Speaker 6: shot in sixteen.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of a really cool way of talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty it's a pretty good tone in cadence.
Speaker 4: Let's start going like kind of in order. You know,
Speaker 4: the first leader board we see there's no no mention
Speaker 4: of Jack, Like, there's no mention of Jack. There's two pages,
Speaker 4: there's nothing. It's all the stars we've talked about. There's
Speaker 4: occasional Donnie Hammond and there's a Jay Haas, but there's
Speaker 4: just no mention. Norman starts with sole possessional lead, gets
Speaker 4: it back with a birdie at six. He's saving pars
Speaker 4: out of his butt at you know, one and two
Speaker 4: and four incredible, like kind of a sign of things
Speaker 4: to come, with a complete airmail job. On four, you know,
Speaker 4: he's scrambling but has sole possession of lead.
Speaker 3: At six.
Speaker 4: There's just not a lot of Jack involved at all.
Speaker 4: There was really the only time he comes up is ironically,
Speaker 4: they go to Watson, Tom Watson and they interview him
Speaker 4: before the round. He comes up. He's like, you need
Speaker 4: the experience and I don't know if this was a
Speaker 4: shot at Norman shot at Price some of the young
Speaker 4: foreign intruders or whatever they want to call him. He said,
Speaker 4: you need the experience, Sevy Lotter, myself and Jack. He
Speaker 4: throws out Jack, who like was not considered a serious
Speaker 4: professional golfer at the time, but Watson threw him out
Speaker 4: and Jack people like that, you need the experience when
Speaker 4: you're under the gun coming down at the end of
Speaker 4: the Masters, And that's really like the first you hear
Speaker 4: about Nicholas is Watson threw him out there the broadcasters
Speaker 4: aren't talking about him. They are talking, Oh, there's Jackie's
Speaker 4: four back, but it's not mentioned Jet.
Speaker 2: There's forty five minutes into the three hours. Uh, they
Speaker 2: still had yet to show a Nicholas full swing. Scrict,
Speaker 2: I've only seen putts, and the first full swing we
Speaker 2: got is on the twelfth hole.
Speaker 6: I have thirty eight minutes in the broadcast is when
Speaker 6: he makes the birdie on ten, where they're finally like, well,
Speaker 6: we won't count him out yet.
Speaker 3: It's on this back nine. The bear is stalking.
Speaker 4: That was Bob Murphy. He goes in the bear, the
Speaker 4: bear's stalking. He says, come on, jack smile. He tells
Speaker 4: him to smile. Bob is in like a fifty footer
Speaker 4: on ten, and he goes, we won't come him out
Speaker 4: of this back nine. And that's yeah, forty minutes in.
Speaker 4: So we'll start there, or we're far from starting, but
Speaker 4: we'll start in the kind of go through the back nine. Andy,
Speaker 4: what were we gonna say, jump in you want to see?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just gonna keep going.
Speaker 2: Obviously he buggies twelve, but we don't get to see
Speaker 2: the thirteenth tea shot and and like I looked to
Speaker 2: where he was, and it's like, how did how.
Speaker 5: Did he get there? I want to see that t
Speaker 5: shot because he's like.
Speaker 2: Literally two yards from the creek on a dead flat line,
Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't think you can get there anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's possible for a modern player to
Speaker 2: get to that position because you have to look at
Speaker 2: so much and now there are trees that overhang if
Speaker 2: you get that far left.
Speaker 4: One of the best things is he obviously rolls in
Speaker 4: the putt on nine to ten, and we see it
Speaker 4: eleven and we see those putts and he's walking to
Speaker 4: the twelfth tee. Like when he makes that ten, that's
Speaker 4: like a fifty foot that's the loudest word you hear
Speaker 4: in the broadcast to that point. You hear it down
Speaker 4: on fifteen when they're showing Crenshaw and somebody else they
Speaker 4: forget down on maybe has on fifteen so loud. But again,
Speaker 4: these are just like hard cuts to putts all of
Speaker 4: a sudden going in. Then they get to him. We
Speaker 4: finally makes one to eleven and he's walking off up
Speaker 4: that famous walk to the twelfth tee and Melneck I
Speaker 4: think is on the call. He goes it's Jack Nicholas,
Speaker 4: the Man of the Hour, and they haven't shown him
Speaker 4: at all. He's the man of the hour, Man the Hour.
Speaker 4: They've showed two three putts, the man of the Hour.
Speaker 4: It's been eleven years since he's done that fifth Green Jacket.
Speaker 4: Is that they haven't showed him. They don't. They said,
Speaker 4: that's it. They shows Bogie at twelve and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's hitting in thirteenth Fairway. It's a
Speaker 4: man of the hour and they haven't shown him. He
Speaker 4: made the turn four back. He made the turn. So
Speaker 4: it wasn't like it's as as things often are with
Speaker 4: the gusta. It moves, it happens real fast. It's moves slow.
Speaker 4: It's moving slow and then fast all of a sudden, right,
Speaker 4: and and that's where it felt like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: he was the Man of the Hour on the eleventh
Speaker 4: tee or the twelfth t and we've barely seen it
Speaker 4: and now it's like this all it's the greatest show
Speaker 4: ever within from you know, essentially twelve to seventeen, Hija.
Speaker 9: Can I interject some some literal breaking news into this podcast?
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, yeah, sure, Phil Michelson will not play the
Speaker 9: Masters what due to UH will be out for an
Speaker 9: extended period of time as my my family continues to
Speaker 9: navigate a personal.
Speaker 4: Health Matter's too bad? All right, well, I can't.
Speaker 3: Brendan can't write Phil this.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, DP, you're all find a way.
Speaker 4: Maybe we could still find a way. It's all right
Speaker 4: where we're.
Speaker 2: The bastards the first Masters without Phil and Tiger and.
Speaker 3: God thirty years.
Speaker 4: I was just say so Phil didn't play in twenty
Speaker 4: two because of that the ship Neck book it just
Speaker 4: came out. Did Tiger miss that? I think Tiger might
Speaker 4: have missed that because of the rash. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's yeah, maybe right, that's wrong, Okay, anyway, could be wrong?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Can I read?
Speaker 6: I forgot when we were talking to invaders. I wanted
Speaker 6: to read this whole sequence. Uh that Ben Wright is
Speaker 6: the first person, Ben Right, who's English or maybe Scottish,
Speaker 6: I don't know, apologies if he's Scottish or whatever. But
Speaker 6: he says when that graphic was up there, he says,
Speaker 6: there you see how these invaders have been truded in
Speaker 6: the last eight years.
Speaker 3: And Wiskoff says, Ben, are you an invader? Says, yeah,
Speaker 3: you could say that, yeah, we like you, we like you.
Speaker 8: Ben Wescott's way of basically like kind of not giving
Speaker 8: a ship but kind of also like giving really insightful
Speaker 8: things is well, who knows, I mean, elf, I knew
Speaker 8: how he thought I would have won this tournament.
Speaker 3: Like this is a great delivery.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Where should we go tonight? All right,
Speaker 4: we've talked about he's playing with Lyle who's the Open champ?
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think we're.
Speaker 2: Generally in the in the sphere of this happening, and
Speaker 2: to me, this is the standout moment outside of the
Speaker 2: wind and it it hits the theme you're talking about
Speaker 2: where this telecast like you just don't see anything.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, out.
Speaker 2: Of nowhere, Corey Pavin comes into our lives and he's
Speaker 2: described as red hot Corey Pavin. Red hot Corey Paven
Speaker 2: is on the sixteenth t. He's six under. He can win,
Speaker 2: so he's three back.
Speaker 4: He eagles fifteen. They showed the putt where eagle. I
Speaker 4: think they showed that right, the eagle in fifteen eagle.
Speaker 2: Still this he disappears and while he's on the tee
Speaker 2: they're talking about, oh, he's really struggled with sixteen this week.
Speaker 5: He's made a double in two bogies.
Speaker 2: He's four over on sixteen through three days.
Speaker 4: That's hard to do. I mean, come on, I.
Speaker 5: Mean it's one hundred and sixty yard part three.
Speaker 4: I will note while we're on this, Norman still holds
Speaker 4: the record. He's six under for the week on par threes,
Speaker 4: which is still the record, which is that's pretty stout
Speaker 4: for the part threes August, Yeah, which is six under,
Speaker 4: still the record. But but Corey Pavin was not based
Speaker 4: on sixteen alone.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, So so peven you know, you think about it,
Speaker 2: he's if he just plays it.
Speaker 5: Even you know, this sounded unreasonable. This is one of
Speaker 5: the easier holes on the golf.
Speaker 10: So even he's at ten under and he gets on
Speaker 10: this t on the tee and he is maybe the worst,
Speaker 10: one of the worst shots I've seen on sixteen, like
Speaker 10: lands in the middle of the lake is and what
Speaker 10: amazed me.
Speaker 2: So I think he made another double there if I
Speaker 2: had to guess. So he goes to six over on
Speaker 2: sixteen for the week. Yeah, and this is a top
Speaker 2: ten player in the world, and he sits down and
Speaker 2: the camera just state I loved the shot of like
Speaker 2: the hole the shot, but then also the camera on
Speaker 2: the guy's face for part three pretty great. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: picture they hang with him, they sit down on this, betch.
Speaker 6: The picture of picture is kind of incredible, Like, I
Speaker 6: don't know that we've actually advanced technology enough to where
Speaker 6: the picture of picture wouldn't be an incredible like thing
Speaker 6: to bring back and.
Speaker 5: Look at this.
Speaker 2: He's got his head down on a bench, there's a
Speaker 2: ball washer.
Speaker 5: And his hands are buried and they just hang on
Speaker 5: this all the way through forty seconds.
Speaker 2: But you know what, like, what do you think about it?
Speaker 2: If you're the what does he unight in the world
Speaker 2: at the time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just.
Speaker 5: Know that you're about to play this this whole six.
Speaker 4: For the week.
Speaker 5: I think this would be your reaction.
Speaker 4: I mean, Andy, the shot lands in the middle of
Speaker 4: the pond, I mean we're not talking. It hits the bank,
Speaker 4: it comes back.
Speaker 3: Just get at it long.
Speaker 7: If you look very closely here on the YouTube, you
Speaker 7: can see the ripples from where the ball lands. It's
Speaker 7: in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 5: I mean it came up twenty yards short.
Speaker 6: What I love about the camera work here is that, yes,
Speaker 6: it's forty seconds but like they hang on him even
Speaker 6: as they're going to commercial break and they pull up
Speaker 6: the full leaderboard.
Speaker 3: I wish I had a screenshot of this, and they.
Speaker 6: Keep the picture in picture them above the little leaderboard,
Speaker 6: so you can see him suffer for just a little
Speaker 6: bit longer until the commercial.
Speaker 4: Fifty three seconds he and Mark the Cumber make eagles
Speaker 4: on fifteen, and then all of a sudden they're in
Speaker 4: the broadcast.
Speaker 2: This is the issue with the with the the constant
Speaker 2: show more shots, show more shots, show more shots, show
Speaker 2: more shots, Like I want less pre shot and more
Speaker 2: post shot because.
Speaker 3: I get this on a live broadcast. Andy, So what
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 2: This is like the the thing yeah that like you
Speaker 2: miss like this is competition. This is tournament golf in
Speaker 2: a nutshell. This is this guy who knows that he's
Speaker 2: played this whole like a twenty five handicap this week,
Speaker 2: and that's why he's not gonna win the Masters.
Speaker 4: He's I think it was one shot out of the
Speaker 4: lead at the after the eagle, right he and McCumber.
Speaker 4: Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 3: Another can we tell one more element?
Speaker 6: You brought it up here, Brendan the because I have
Speaker 6: a pick of this the interviewing players before the round
Speaker 6: to talk about the round to come is kind of
Speaker 6: a cool thing. Like you mentioned the Watson one they
Speaker 6: did it, and Greg Norman one here I have a
Speaker 6: picture of Like what a handsome motherfucker he was back
Speaker 6: like this, absolutely like vibing and just like in such
Speaker 6: a good mood, like, hey, you know like some masters
Speaker 6: that you know, this this tournament hadn't really made him
Speaker 6: suffer that much yet. You know, he'd finished fourth once
Speaker 6: previously but wasn't really in contention, but this is the
Speaker 6: first time it will really hurt. And I just I
Speaker 6: kind of love getting the early insight before they go
Speaker 6: tee off, Like how how much would you have liked
Speaker 6: to see Like I think maybe did Bryson do one
Speaker 6: of these? You know, Rory obviously did not interdeing interview
Speaker 6: before the round or whatever. But it's like you get
Speaker 6: a little bit of like an insight into how the
Speaker 6: golfers are thinking and feeling before they go out and
Speaker 6: can't talk for five hours.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I don't think that is people will
Speaker 2: agree to do this stuff anymore.
Speaker 5: A funny anecdote.
Speaker 2: I'm going to redact names just to you know, not
Speaker 2: to get in anybody in trouble here. But I you know,
Speaker 2: I was talking with a European tour player that played,
Speaker 2: you know, in this era, and he was telling me.
Speaker 2: He told me a story about I think it was
Speaker 2: is so Norman was dating a very very attractive person
Speaker 2: at the time, and he had played poorly and this
Speaker 2: woman was coming to meet him at this euro Tour
Speaker 2: event and Norman kind of had thrown like a little
Speaker 2: temper tantrum and left the tournament early before this woman
Speaker 2: that he was seeing arrived and she got there and
Speaker 2: and she was like where is he? And there everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 2: he left, you know. And she had traveled to this
Speaker 2: event and apparently she had turned turned in saw Sev
Speaker 2: and said, oh, he'll do and went off with Seve.
Speaker 4: Incredible, pretty good, good stuff that is not in the
Speaker 4: broadcast of the broadcast.
Speaker 2: That's just an anecdotal that jogged my memory when he said,
Speaker 2: it's an handsome mfor the uh that interview he talks
Speaker 2: about Norman before.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm longer than everybody. Like, if I can
Speaker 4: hit a three or four iron to fifteen, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: push on the gas and try to do it. Instead
Speaker 4: of hitting a one or a two iron.
Speaker 3: And one or two.
Speaker 6: I wrote that quote down to Brendon, like, all these
Speaker 6: guys are carrying two irons at this point because that
Speaker 6: is like the equivalent of a five wood or a
Speaker 6: you know, a hybrid or whatever.
Speaker 3: Which is that's where the volatility comes in. You have
Speaker 3: to hit a two iron sometimes.
Speaker 2: The shot of when Crenshaw hit that that three wood,
Speaker 2: the angle of the camera was so good because it
Speaker 2: showed how.
Speaker 5: Freaking dip deep the three wood was. Then just hitting
Speaker 5: like how deep the face was.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, that's timir fuel.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm thinking to any during that is
Speaker 6: like he doesn't have a track man to tell him
Speaker 6: that he knows that three would goes two hundred and
Speaker 6: thirty nine yards whatever.
Speaker 3: He just has to play that on feel like he
Speaker 3: has to trust.
Speaker 6: I've hitting the shot before I know it's gonna go,
Speaker 6: and it's well, yeah, this is how you swing a
Speaker 6: golf club.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: This is not meant to be a humble brag on
Speaker 2: multiple pieces here, but like when I played Augusta in
Speaker 2: the media thing, I played with persimmon and basically seventies
Speaker 2: blades and on fifteen. I pumped, I pummel the drive
Speaker 2: and I got into the spot and I.
Speaker 5: Stood over a foe iron, a four iron butter knife.
Speaker 5: So this would have been what Norman was looking at,
Speaker 5: not what other guys were.
Speaker 2: And I was playing a solid core golf ball, so
Speaker 2: that's you know where, and I'm I'm standing over this
Speaker 2: ball and looking at that green with a fore iron,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, like I have
Speaker 2: to hit this so freaking good, like so good, Like
Speaker 2: it's a scary green to hit a wedge in two like,
Speaker 2: but hitting a three wood or a one iron or
Speaker 2: two like, no, I don't want anything to do. Like
Speaker 2: I kind of get how chip back laid up in
Speaker 2: a way, it is like a It's it's a proposition
Speaker 2: where you're like, okay, like if I don't hit this
Speaker 2: dead flush, it's going.
Speaker 5: To be a very bad result.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is like I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's something you watch this and it's like, uh, this
Speaker 2: is It's just not the same.
Speaker 5: It's not even close to the same game anymore.
Speaker 4: Rory obviously hit a seven iron, not the diminute. It's
Speaker 4: not diminishing his shot visa the eighty six shots. But
Speaker 4: that heat a seven iron last year.
Speaker 5: And they the t forty yards back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy that just some of the irons
Speaker 4: these guys are hitting. Of course, you know.
Speaker 2: I heard yesterday that you know, certain companies don't believe
Speaker 2: that that distance is an issue.
Speaker 4: Speaking of equipment, Speaking of equipment, the twelve pole. Melnick's
Speaker 4: on the call is the first time where we get
Speaker 4: a chuckle. He's chuckling about the comical oversized blade putter
Speaker 4: that Jack and I got a screenshot at, Like it's
Speaker 4: comically large, this giant jumbo head of a blade putter.
Speaker 4: And we say, truth be no, and this is Melanick.
Speaker 4: Nicholas's vision is not as good as it used to be.
Speaker 4: Jackie's helping him read the greens. He's got that oversized
Speaker 4: blade putter as Jackie reads the greens for him, and
Speaker 4: why Scotff will talk about it later. At sixteen, he's like,
Speaker 4: you know, jack can't see anymore. He doesn't even probably
Speaker 4: know the ball, you know, almost went in the hole
Speaker 4: and is sitting three feet from the hole. At sixteen.
Speaker 4: He all he says is, you know, be right, He
Speaker 4: says to Jackie, it is in the air. But he
Speaker 4: like Weiscov's like he can't see you can't see the
Speaker 4: green anymore. But I love the jumbo putter glimpse we
Speaker 4: get a yeah, well pretty.
Speaker 6: Good McGregor's ZT response. They sold three hundred three to
Speaker 6: four hundred thousand of these in the year after this masters.
Speaker 6: I always remember Rick Ratt described it as like the
Speaker 6: attachment to a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 3: That was the size of it was.
Speaker 2: The amazing thing is like if a guy we see
Speaker 2: this over the history and it's probably becoming less and
Speaker 2: less prevalent. Remember when Zach Johnson won with a Seymour putter, how.
Speaker 5: That went like nuts too.
Speaker 2: It's like the eye alignment thing, like where the shaft
Speaker 2: covers the red dot, and like you know, Seyboar putters
Speaker 2: became this huge thing, you know, because of it. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's amazing how like somebody using something in a
Speaker 2: major could just completely change the trajectory of an otherwise
Speaker 2: piece of equipment that people would have been like, who
Speaker 2: would use that?
Speaker 6: VJ saying when he won the putter, the weird cutter, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it never compromsed.
Speaker 5: Blackened great one.
Speaker 6: Designed by like a concert pianist who had no experience
Speaker 6: whatsoever in designing clubs, and it like the website melted
Speaker 6: down afterwards.
Speaker 3: It was like, it's like off set. So that's like
Speaker 3: the chavy you see me on the thing.
Speaker 6: The chef comes down and then the head of it
Speaker 6: is like behind the ball, so it like forces you
Speaker 6: to keep your hands forward, w whatever.
Speaker 3: It just it's wild.
Speaker 5: Was it was it David Thoms who used the yes putter.
Speaker 4: It was Tom's, but Days had a moment the yes putter.
Speaker 4: They had a putt. They had a moment for sure.
Speaker 2: It was a major moment to David Tom's The seven
Speaker 2: wood was like a big you know thing from the Toms.
Speaker 4: Win yep, okay. So he's the man of the hour,
Speaker 4: always seen her three putts. He Bogie's twelve. We talked
Speaker 4: about his chip, like you can't ship the dog his
Speaker 4: short game. He doesn't hit a good ship there and
Speaker 4: and misses the putt, save par saving putt. That's the
Speaker 4: only shot he'll drop.
Speaker 6: My favorite Nicholas humble brag is that he some people
Speaker 6: talk like that after his career was over, We're like, no,
Speaker 6: you won't really renound for your short game, and he
Speaker 6: was like, what you know, I didn't miss a lot
Speaker 6: of greens. So you know, if I had I miss
Speaker 6: a lot of greens, I would have practiced my short
Speaker 6: game more.
Speaker 3: I would have been better at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, ah, that's a good one. So he's he
Speaker 4: becomes the focus, I'd say at twelve. All right, of
Speaker 4: course they don't shows t shot at thirteen, shows approach
Speaker 4: shot at thirteen it sticks up like a great approach shot.
Speaker 4: I didn't write down the club. Was it like a
Speaker 4: six iron four iron somewhere in there? They weren't like
Speaker 4: having to hit lumber. Some of those guys were not.
Speaker 4: Like Watson hit one of the biggest drives of the
Speaker 4: day at thirteen, hitting like a mid iron in he
Speaker 4: hits a great shot, but it sticks compared to Sevey
Speaker 4: Lands different trajectory, runs right up to the hole that
Speaker 4: great like back right pin, and Sevey makes an eagle.
Speaker 4: But where's where's Jack has to grind for a two
Speaker 4: putt thirty? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about Sevi's thing now?
Speaker 6: Because I eagle at thirteen, so I have a visual
Speaker 6: aid of this too awesome shot by Seve takes the slope,
Speaker 6: trickles down towards the pin and he does the big
Speaker 6: No No of essentially like at this point he's gonna
Speaker 6: make this eagle putt and have a three shot lead
Speaker 6: in the Masters, and he shakes hands with his brother
Speaker 6: as they're walking up thirteenth Fairway and then takes his
Speaker 6: hat off and waves it to the crowd. It's an
Speaker 6: incredible like celebration of like just like I got this shit,
Speaker 6: like we are we are cooking. And of course it
Speaker 6: goes very wrong later in a few minutes, but I
Speaker 6: just love the image of him shaking hands with them.
Speaker 6: I think it's Vicente is his brother as they kind
Speaker 6: of look at each other. He's said to be putting
Speaker 6: his arm around him and walking up the fairway.
Speaker 5: I just watching the whole thing.
Speaker 2: One of my takeaways I didn't write this down, was
Speaker 2: just like how much more expressive the players were with
Speaker 2: their caddies, and like, how much more like he after
Speaker 2: Norman made Birdie on seventeen. You just see him like
Speaker 2: do this like big axail and he's just like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's like walking to the next tee like pumped up.
Speaker 2: Like it's like you just don't you know, like these
Speaker 2: players learn to just be robots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Jack's considered dry. He's like cackling
Speaker 4: walking off the sixteenth green as I think he realized
Speaker 4: it's the good fortune and how incredible this is that's happening.
Speaker 4: He's like cackling as he walks off sixteen. So real quick, yeah.
Speaker 2: On this so Seve bird eagles thirteen. So at this
Speaker 2: point Seve is nine under through thirteen and Jack is
Speaker 2: on fifteen t at five under.
Speaker 4: It's four back with four to play for him.
Speaker 2: Yes, also a quick note in here that I would
Speaker 2: be reversed.
Speaker 5: Payne Stewart makes an appearance around here.
Speaker 3: He did. Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 2: And they're like he's already missed two punts inside of
Speaker 2: two feet.
Speaker 5: Yes, hey, drive.
Speaker 3: By on Paine Stewart.
Speaker 5: And then like one are the three shots they show
Speaker 5: a Payte Stuart. He misses like a three footer that
Speaker 5: was on seventeen.
Speaker 4: I think it was. I think it was just like,
Speaker 4: honestly three feet, not more than three feet. It was
Speaker 4: ben right because we took we go to the toorally
Speaker 4: elegant pain Steward, but we were told he is already
Speaker 4: missed two butts inside of two feet. That's it, that's
Speaker 4: all the pain Stewart appears, and then he misses the
Speaker 4: three a.
Speaker 3: Measure for Do you guys know where pain Stewart finished
Speaker 3: in this tournament?
Speaker 6: No, he finished eighth, top ten and this is the
Speaker 6: one ten second thing we see of him was just
Speaker 6: yacking the butt.
Speaker 5: I mean he seemed to be in a really bad mood.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean right said he could have been measured
Speaker 4: for a jacket had those gone in the two footers.
Speaker 4: And then he misses another one at seventeen. This sartorial,
Speaker 4: sartorially elegant pain Stewart. So Seve makes eagle right now,
Speaker 4: they say it's Seve's masters to lose. When he's four
Speaker 4: up on Jack, two up on kite and cruising as
Speaker 4: we go. Jack's on the do we need anything to
Speaker 4: add about Jack? Thirteen? He makes the birdie the bear.
Speaker 4: The bear references are just NonStop prowl the old bear.
Speaker 4: There's life in the old bear. The bear is hunting again.
Speaker 2: Ben right, Ben Wright slight line after I think the
Speaker 2: whole thing here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so far, so well, I'll set it up when
Speaker 6: when after he makes the eagle, Brandon can describe's masters
Speaker 6: will lose.
Speaker 4: I'll just say Norman is off the stage Norman, who
Speaker 4: ends up being like the final putt, the final.
Speaker 6: Ten on kind of an underrated thing, complete terrible drive,
Speaker 6: clatters around in the trees, hits it a terrible approach
Speaker 6: into ten with a with a fore iron uh and
Speaker 6: it has chips over the green into the bunker and
Speaker 6: then makes a mess of it makes double like literally
Speaker 6: that was kind of Norman's masters in some ways, although
Speaker 6: he obviously goes it gets them fire later.
Speaker 5: I mean the tenth hole that was a disaster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tugs it left in the trees, gets lucky, It
Speaker 4: bounces in the fairway, then tugs it left like the
Speaker 4: one place you cannot I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: bad places to miss on ten, but going hard left
Speaker 4: off the green and doubles it. So you know, Norman's
Speaker 4: the main character, and then it's Sevy's the main car
Speaker 4: and then Jack like he's just sort of the old
Speaker 4: lion and they're, you know whatever. He's making some birdies
Speaker 4: and needs some disaster. He's four down with four to play.
Speaker 4: Norman's off the stage. Nicholas is on fifteen. He has
Speaker 4: two hundred yards to the pin. They say he's never
Speaker 4: needed an eagle more. Is this part of your narration, Kevin,
Speaker 4: I don't want to cut it, he said, he's never
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 3: Do it afterwards. You do it this part, I'll do
Speaker 3: the aftermath.
Speaker 4: There have been three eagles in the last four players, Peven,
Speaker 4: Gary Cooch and Mark McCumber. He flies into the pin
Speaker 4: and it lands pretty soft. Uh, And they say, he's
Speaker 4: got a chance. He's got a chance. Is this part
Speaker 4: of your He's got a chance, He's got a very
Speaker 4: good chance. The old Bear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I should have wrote down the whole thing, but
Speaker 6: I have the post thing. So he rolls the putt
Speaker 6: in and this is a little bit of a controversy here,
Speaker 6: as you're hearing in a second. So Ben Wright, he's
Speaker 6: got this lovely English voice. He says, yes, sir, the
Speaker 6: battle has joined. My goodness, there's life.
Speaker 3: In the Old Bear yet, magnificent stuff.
Speaker 6: And that information will percolate back to Semi Barstetus.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it was. And he goes to the
Speaker 4: fifteenth t where I will have to wait. That was
Speaker 4: what he said. So he did not invent.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, yes see like this is right. Who was
Speaker 6: kind of actually bitter about this for years that and
Speaker 6: Vern actually felt a little bit guilty about it. That
Speaker 6: he said he subconsciously heard it somewhere and that he
Speaker 6: used it, but it became kind of his iconic call
Speaker 6: instead of ben Wright's saying the first thing, yes sir.
Speaker 4: Wow. So we had a yes sir for the eagle
Speaker 4: on fifteen for Jack, Yes sir for the putt from
Speaker 4: Vern on seventeen, and yes sir for Vern when Norman
Speaker 4: makes his on seventeen. Those are the three for sure.
Speaker 4: Weisskough when he's on fifteen before he makes the eagles,
Speaker 4: like he's making good swings, he's just a little too
Speaker 4: far behind. That's what he says about Jack. This is
Speaker 4: a must make. At fifteen he makes it. It was
Speaker 4: like a whole like will it situation with Danny Willett,
Speaker 4: like he kind of he was just, oh, that's nice.
Speaker 4: He's making birdies. And that's just how the masters works, right.
Speaker 4: It's slow and then it's fast really quick. I'll say,
Speaker 4: I'll leave this to you, Kevin. But when Jack makes
Speaker 4: his eagle could have been later when somebody else made
Speaker 4: their eagle. He said, eagles are becoming as common. Did
Speaker 4: you write this as his house was at your household Sparrow?
Speaker 4: The eagles are becoming as common as your household sparrow.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand that. Does everybody have a sparrow? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't understand what that means? It a bird cage?
Speaker 4: Is it outside?
Speaker 3: That was like a.
Speaker 6: Harry Potter situation where everyone's awarded an owl and you
Speaker 6: just have one around.
Speaker 4: The eagles are becoming as common as your household. All right,
Speaker 4: So that's fifteen. He birdied eagles fifteen. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: he's four back, the two back at the time, but
Speaker 4: Sevy's still too clear kite ahead of them. All these
Speaker 4: guys are ahead of them, not all the kite kiten
Speaker 4: by stereos are ahead of them paving at the time,
Speaker 4: He's tied with for a second. All right, what do
Speaker 4: we have next? Sevy booms at three hundred yards of fifteen,
Speaker 4: and it's considered huge, like a huge.
Speaker 2: Just prime primo position, like effectively cannot screw this up,
Speaker 2: Like you know, he got into where all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he doesn't have that one iron in. He got
Speaker 2: to where Norman like effectively thought his huge advantage was
Speaker 2: Yeah another thing, just random thing. No spectators behind sixteen
Speaker 2: t Did you notice that?
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, matrons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost it's like completely Uh. You can see
Speaker 6: the camera up there, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: You can see a grand stand which I think was
Speaker 2: actually behind maybe fourteen t.
Speaker 4: There. You know, there are obviously giant crowds by galleries,
Speaker 4: I should say by the end at eighteen. One thing
Speaker 4: I noticed was it didn't seem too dense compared you know,
Speaker 4: they obviously let a lot more people in that like ten.
Speaker 4: When Norman's on ten, there's nobody there. You can just
Speaker 4: walk up and watch the final group with a Master.
Speaker 4: I can't do that now there's I don't think there's
Speaker 4: a grand stand. I was trying to find this right
Speaker 4: of fifteen green, like there is now left of seventeen Green.
Speaker 4: It looks like there's just a big like sort of
Speaker 4: viewing hill and not the grand stand that there is
Speaker 4: on seventeen. So certainly I don't want to say there's
Speaker 4: no It was dense by the end of the end,
Speaker 4: but it just seems fewer numbers spread out farther across
Speaker 4: the course.
Speaker 6: I will say, like one of the things that anyone
Speaker 6: who's ever been to this Masters, and they talk about
Speaker 6: it later in the broadcast, is that like the roars
Speaker 6: were so loud.
Speaker 3: It was like being in a basketball game.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: People have said, like there's never ever been louder than
Speaker 6: it was than when Nicholas was making this back nine
Speaker 6: thirty run.
Speaker 4: You called it deafening. So seventy's three hundred yards in
Speaker 4: the faraway at fifteen. We'll get to jacket sixteen here
Speaker 4: in a minute, a one position. We've talked about some
Speaker 4: of the bad shots. Paving into the middle of the
Speaker 4: pond at sixteen, I think is off the hook. When
Speaker 4: Sevey steps up to his approach shot at fifteen, just
Speaker 4: an immediate, immediate smother hook into like nowhere close middle
Speaker 4: of the pond. Uh, it's just an awful one of
Speaker 4: the great one of the great bad shots. I should say.
Speaker 4: If by by a Master's champion and would be three
Speaker 4: time champion, they say, oh, he's pulled it. He pull
Speaker 4: looked that that's destined for the water. There's some cheering.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it's like Mullinari putting in
Speaker 4: the water at twelve. Like there was like people in
Speaker 4: the background fifteen who put their hands up and there
Speaker 4: is cheering. There's a lot of CBS covering, like trying
Speaker 4: to provide cover for the crowd saying the ever courteous. Oh,
Speaker 4: they're so courteous, the ever courteous. They say that three
Speaker 4: times about a two minute span. There is some cheering
Speaker 4: when he pull hooks it that's destined for the waters.
Speaker 4: And what does he say? The foreign invasion is reeling
Speaker 4: under the bears attack?
Speaker 3: Then right, more an invasion is reeling under the bears attack.
Speaker 4: No good an awful drop kick or just an awful
Speaker 4: pull hook into the water. What impressed me about Sevy
Speaker 4: at fifteen was he decides where to drop it, like
Speaker 4: an under two minutes. Like he's at one moment, he's
Speaker 4: with two rules officials on the edge of the water.
Speaker 4: They're like, he could drop it at the edge of
Speaker 4: the water, he could walk back to put more spin
Speaker 4: on it, he could go to the drop zone. The
Speaker 4: dude makes his decision, ball down, hits the shot all
Speaker 4: in under two minutes. And I'm talking including the pacing
Speaker 4: it back all the way.
Speaker 6: It was kind of basically yes in modern day, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I timed it up. It was one minute forty seconds
Speaker 4: from the rules official approaching it at the water and
Speaker 4: then just like looking down, going back, walking it off,
Speaker 4: hitting the shot kind of incredible.
Speaker 3: So all of this is unfolding like so quickly. Right.
Speaker 6: This is right about the point when Norman is playing
Speaker 6: thirteen and he hits it long up above thirteen, and
Speaker 6: Venturi says, yeah, lookout, oh as the ball slides down
Speaker 6: the hill, I think he can feel the green coat
Speaker 6: slipping away.
Speaker 3: It's just like boom, boom boom.
Speaker 6: We're just bouncing back and forth between all these various traumas.
Speaker 4: That back left miss and he was talking. He kept
Speaker 4: tugging it left right. He did it at seventeen, did
Speaker 4: it twice at ten? Now does it at thirteen? Approach?
Speaker 4: I did make a birdie from back there, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's usually dead back left thirteen.
Speaker 6: Raise your hand if you haven't played against Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Jack gets to sixteen and nance it's Nancy's moment.
Speaker 4: He's a kid first Masters. He goes if anyone has
Speaker 4: ever owned this hole? It could be Jack Nicholas, who
Speaker 4: goes through his history there Berdie's when he's won his
Speaker 4: it won his Masters.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do it because I have.
Speaker 6: This is one of my favorite things in broadcast history.
Speaker 6: Please this is I'm gonna do my best dance here.
Speaker 6: Jack Nicholas knowing he must continue the charge. He has
Speaker 6: to figure that Belsaros will make at least birdie back
Speaker 6: at fifteen. If anyone as of her owned this hole,
Speaker 6: it would be Jack Nicholas. When he first won his
Speaker 6: green jacket back in nineteen sixty three, he did it
Speaker 6: with a birdie here at sixteen. And of course, who
Speaker 6: can forget nineteen seventy five, the forty foot putt. Tom Wiscoff,
Speaker 6: what's going through Jack's mind? He hasn't experienced this kind
Speaker 6: of streak in a long time. Weiscoff says, if I knew,
Speaker 6: I thought I would if I knew how he thought,
Speaker 6: I would have won this tournament, and they laughed together. No, seriously,
Speaker 6: he just gonna fire this right at the pin. He's
Speaker 6: gonna think, Jack, this is the time, right now, make
Speaker 6: this swing that you are capable of making. Stay down,
Speaker 6: accelerate through the ball, make a good off swing.
Speaker 3: Your destiny is right here.
Speaker 6: And what I love about it is west Cooff talks
Speaker 6: like this right up to the moment where Jack is
Speaker 6: about to hit the ball. I mean, we get like
Speaker 6: your destiny is right here, and it's two seconds before
Speaker 6: Jack takes a club back. After that, and then Nance
Speaker 6: just goes it's right at it, oh.
Speaker 3: My, And it's just like I love that sequence.
Speaker 6: That's one of my favorite subsequences in broadcast history because
Speaker 6: it just it builds to the moment it gives you
Speaker 6: the history, and then it lets it sort of speak
Speaker 6: for itself.
Speaker 4: He almost spins it back into the hole for an ace.
Speaker 4: It's that famous line which we're not privy to on
Speaker 4: the broadcast where you know, allegedly Jackie's caddy his son
Speaker 4: says be good and jack says it is and you
Speaker 4: can't see.
Speaker 3: Do you think that that actually happened?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to you said it, but
Speaker 4: I've thought it, like is this.
Speaker 6: Really study so many times in the years to see
Speaker 6: if you can hear Field Nicholas's lips like moving he
Speaker 6: bends down to get the tee, So in theory he
Speaker 6: could have said it there, but you can't really like.
Speaker 3: There's no evidence of it that Nicholas says that.
Speaker 6: Obviously we don't have Jackie. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 6: they would like make that up, so obviously it happened.
Speaker 6: But it's just like the conspiracy person in me is like,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, like why can't I see like Nicholas
Speaker 6: saying this to Jackie, like, oh, it is, like.
Speaker 4: What one thing that's a common theme throughout this broadcast
Speaker 4: is how audible the crowd is on the broadcast, because
Speaker 4: I assume these guys I don't know actually are they
Speaker 4: in towers, like and their MIC's are picking. There's so
Speaker 4: much stuff you can hear from the crowd, Like sometimes
Speaker 4: it's just like you're hearing conversations that are just going
Speaker 4: on next to the eighteenth green. Well, when that ball
Speaker 4: is coming into sixteen, there's some guy who's like, oh,
Speaker 4: oh Jesus, like shouts it and it's almost like as
Speaker 4: loud as nance as the ball, Like it just adds
Speaker 4: to the drama of this. He's gonna make an ace.
Speaker 6: Maybe this is where you got that wisecoff line of oh,
Speaker 6: you'd mentioned the legitate earlier, and.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize jack doesn't see that.
Speaker 6: Well, it probably has no idea how close up ball is.
Speaker 4: So then Nakajima, who's with Sevy on fifteen, like cannot
Speaker 4: play for like minutes because sixteen you obviously it's raining
Speaker 4: by the gallery and everybody's going nuts the whole walk
Speaker 4: up and he has to keep backing off the ball,
Speaker 4: and they said it's like Days of Old, because Watson
Speaker 4: then has a chance of his own eagle at some
Speaker 4: point in fifteen to get the seven under right after that.
Speaker 4: So right, it's like Days of Old, And so Watson
Speaker 4: versus Nicholas, they're both going for eagles. I honestly like
Speaker 4: I was many mini digression on Tom Watson. The guy
Speaker 4: won eight majors, but nothing after nineteen eighty three, and
Speaker 4: this is nineteen eighty six. He had to think Jack's
Speaker 4: ten years older. Yeah, Like Jack won a major later
Speaker 4: than Watson did, like eight majors, just so many majors,
Speaker 4: and they all came in like I think it was
Speaker 4: like seventy five to eighty three somewhere I looked it
Speaker 4: up earlier, but like it almost in an eight year,
Speaker 4: ten year span, and he had to think, like I
Speaker 4: was going to outlast Jack or at least get a
Speaker 4: major after Jack. He never did.
Speaker 2: I think something that's amazing about this major is the
Speaker 2: idea of like the old, the old greatest of all time,
Speaker 2: like go run into gauntlet and taking on all the
Speaker 2: very best of this era and taking it to him
Speaker 2: one last time. Like I just think that that is
Speaker 2: like the overarching It's it's a little bit of shades
Speaker 2: of Tiger in twenty nineteen with Brooks in the mix,
Speaker 2: like where it's like, oh, oh, boys, you don't want
Speaker 2: this smoke, like and coming down and just it's just
Speaker 2: let me show you something and like him doing it.
Speaker 2: And that's like right at this moment in the telecast
Speaker 2: is kind of where I was like thinking about that.
Speaker 5: It's like, how cool is this tournament?
Speaker 4: Thelphers who have dominated the seventies and eighties have all
Speaker 4: congregated at the top of this leader board, all the
Speaker 4: golfers who dominated.
Speaker 6: This Why though, I guess maybe I'm gonna feel dumb
Speaker 6: when someone reveals answers why isn't Faldo playing? He just
Speaker 6: looked it up. He didn't play in the first two
Speaker 6: Majors of this year. He was like he played in
Speaker 6: the previous three Masters, but then he missed two Masters.
Speaker 6: Is this when Faldo had sort of lost his swing?
Speaker 6: Later this year he finishes in the Open, fifth in
Speaker 6: the Open Championship, and he wins the Masters in eighty
Speaker 6: seven Old Championship.
Speaker 4: In my guess would be when this was This might
Speaker 4: be when he was tearing down this swing would be
Speaker 4: a guess. I don't know, maybe going make it in
Speaker 4: the middle of a swing change, just a guess, all right.
Speaker 4: So so Jack gets through sixteen, he's eagled fifteen, he's
Speaker 4: eagles thirty, sixteen, seventeen. They don't see the drive. They
Speaker 4: don't they don't know where it went. He like Verne
Speaker 4: is like, oh, we don't see it. Where wherever it is?
Speaker 4: It ends up being any.
Speaker 5: Drive on seven.
Speaker 2: If they just showed the camera shot of like just
Speaker 2: the fairway, there's nothing you can see.
Speaker 4: Yep, yeap. So he hits it. It's a four hundred
Speaker 4: yard hole at the time, seventeen four hundred yards up
Speaker 4: the hill. He said, Jack is prowling after his twentieth
Speaker 4: major win. We should note like that is the ubiquitous
Speaker 4: concert reference. He's going for twenty majors, which is now eighteen.
Speaker 4: They can't find his te ball quote. We're still searching.
Speaker 4: It's not good wherever it is. Well, it was like, okay,
Speaker 4: you had a shot. An interesting thing was it wasn't
Speaker 4: a gallery. They never take the ropes down, did you
Speaker 4: guys notice that throughout like they never nowadays they just
Speaker 4: would you know, obviously you take the ropes down, you
Speaker 4: take the stakes down. They're just like, yeah, you know
Speaker 4: if it hits the rope, so well, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 4: After he's like hitting over this gallery, crosswalk side and
Speaker 4: the ropes. This happens over and over again with Norman
Speaker 4: and others. But he has a shot and he a
Speaker 4: clear angle. He comes up and over the top to
Speaker 4: the back back right pin and he's yeah, h to
Speaker 4: the back of the green birdie makeable putt and he makes.
Speaker 3: A hell of a shot from to be on that
Speaker 3: top shelf. Like to not go along there.
Speaker 5: Nothing compared to Norman's though, yeah.
Speaker 4: True, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, nothing compared to Yes, like, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to diminished check shot, but like what you see fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes later, you're like, oh my god, that.
Speaker 6: When we remember earlier this year we did the greatest
Speaker 6: shots in a losing effort, and I did not put
Speaker 6: Norman's shot on there because I honestly was kind of
Speaker 6: ignorant of it. I was like, oh, Norman blew it
Speaker 6: on eighteen, Like what And someone was like, yo, you
Speaker 6: need to go check out Norman's shot on seventeen, and
Speaker 6: it's like we'll get there in a second, but it's
Speaker 6: so good that it made our next list that's coming
Speaker 6: out soon for like greatest shots.
Speaker 4: Of all time.
Speaker 2: Can I just point out something that like is a
Speaker 2: big theme of this the telecast and also our com terry.
Speaker 5: To this point, nobody.
Speaker 4: And all is talking about Tom Kite, who's just there,
Speaker 4: you gets runner up.
Speaker 2: He like literally he has a putt to get into
Speaker 2: the playoff, Like what's the closest to getting in the playoff,
Speaker 2: and he's just literally like there the whole.
Speaker 3: Time kind of along.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it was just like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like just like perfect.
Speaker 5: For Tom Kite.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have, like this guy, really great
Speaker 2: player of the era, but like not really memorable in
Speaker 2: terms of like when people rattle off names of the
Speaker 2: nineties and eighties, they don't they don't go to Kite,
Speaker 2: even though he's this great, great player, And like even
Speaker 2: on this telecast, it's just like in Tom Kite is
Speaker 2: just one back.
Speaker 6: These are Tom Kite's consecutive Masters finishes tenth fifth. There's
Speaker 6: some ties in here, but tenth fifth, third, eighteenth, fifth, sixth, fifth, fifth,
Speaker 6: and then this ends up finishing second sixth. He misses
Speaker 6: the cut and the finishes second, and then later he
Speaker 6: has kind of a lull, but he finishes fourth and second.
Speaker 3: H It's like, incredible, incredible.
Speaker 4: Run, Tom, incredible run. And honestly, had the should have
Speaker 4: could have been in the could have been in the
Speaker 4: playoff more more than Norman played better golf than Norman
Speaker 4: on Sunday. So Norman was erratic, But I forgot to say,
Speaker 4: the bears come out of hibernation is when we get
Speaker 4: that famous Nance line, when he's walked off, he's gone
Speaker 4: eagle birdie at sixteen, pulls it on seventeen, gets up
Speaker 4: to the back ledge, and this is where we get
Speaker 4: the famous, the most famous, Yes, sir put I think
Speaker 4: like it is so aided by the visual, like the
Speaker 4: Potter rays, like he knows it's going in the jar
Speaker 4: while it's still going end over end tumbling, and I
Speaker 4: think like it's the iconic moment from this masters. I
Speaker 4: guess he went to he went away, or he went
Speaker 4: ahead for good here and I guess that's the point
Speaker 4: of it. But watching the totality of the three hours,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that was awesome, major, massive moment, But
Speaker 4: it's like of a piece of like the hundred other
Speaker 4: things that are going on, you know, so anything you
Speaker 4: need to add, I'm not trying to give this short shrift,
Speaker 4: But Jack seventeenth pole.
Speaker 6: I just love There's a couple of little subtle things,
Speaker 6: like I love how he tugs his pant leg up
Speaker 6: a little bit before he reaches down to get the ball,
Speaker 6: which is just kind of like an old guy thing,
Speaker 6: like your pants don't fit quite right and so you
Speaker 6: want to split it gets a favocat also the fear
Speaker 6: of like splitting your pants if you don't like just
Speaker 6: sort of adjust them a little bit. And I love
Speaker 6: that aster he picks up the ben he's walking off,
Speaker 6: he does, he looks at the sky kind of like
Speaker 6: he's sort of like kind doesn't believe this. There's a
Speaker 6: I have a visual at the very end of this,
Speaker 6: but they show it later where he's just like wow,
Speaker 6: like he kind of like was almost like is this
Speaker 6: shit really happening? Like this this really real life? At
Speaker 6: this moment was kind.
Speaker 4: Of cool, incredible.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Sevy makes his makes his bogie at fifteen and they
Speaker 4: say he's not in a tie Jack, and we get
Speaker 4: the foreign invasions reeling under the bear's attack. Right ben,
Speaker 4: right line. We don't really Sevy. That's it. That's it
Speaker 4: for Sevy. Essentially, we don't really see much more of Sev.
Speaker 5: I mean seventeen. We need the putt he hit seventeen.
Speaker 5: I mean he still had a chance I could take.
Speaker 3: I always thought he was dead hitting the water on fifteen.
Speaker 4: No, no, actually.
Speaker 2: Tied from the putt on seventeen needs to be talked about.
Speaker 2: He has like a eighteen feet for Bertie.
Speaker 5: To tie the lead.
Speaker 2: He's behind the hole fifteen feet passed and he's three
Speaker 2: putts and that is over. But he could have either
Speaker 2: made that putt or if he just two putts there
Speaker 2: from very short distance, he could birdie eighteen and get
Speaker 2: into a playoff. It was like I the fifteenth shot
Speaker 2: was one thing. My note was Seve just melted on
Speaker 2: season mentally melted, melted down there.
Speaker 6: He said on in his biography years later that the
Speaker 6: shot on fifteen like haunted him forever, like that. He
Speaker 6: just couldn't get over that. He smother hooked it into
Speaker 6: the pond there with with like all he's got to
Speaker 6: do is like put that anywhere on the green two putt.
Speaker 3: He's going to win the Masters.
Speaker 4: The putt on seventeen. You just don't see, like, okay,
Speaker 4: we can talk about equipment, right, Equipment issues make the
Speaker 4: misses worse. The put on something you just don't see
Speaker 4: from guys in contention at a major who've won that
Speaker 4: major multiple times. We're talking like he makes contact, he
Speaker 4: waves at the ball knowing it's going like twenty feet
Speaker 4: past what like is.
Speaker 2: The general gesticulations of players were it was so incredible,
Speaker 2: like they they were expressive, one more, one more, one
Speaker 2: more preposterous Sevvy moment.
Speaker 4: So he's ball in sixteen, lands on the top of
Speaker 4: the bunker. He does a hockey putt. He does like
Speaker 4: he's got to, like all the way to the pucker,
Speaker 4: does a hockey putt. He makes a ball, But.
Speaker 3: I do like it.
Speaker 6: At some point, I think it's on eighteen VENTUREI says,
Speaker 6: they keep on ballisteros. This is before they anyone had
Speaker 6: knew to pronounced the double l's Ballisterario's will win more
Speaker 6: than to what will win more masters. I guarantee you
Speaker 6: that it's like, Nope, that didn't happen there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, guarantee you that, he said. I guarante like
Speaker 4: he is the undisputed best player in the world. I
Speaker 4: guarantee you that I had that right. Uh had to
Speaker 4: back off his pot as Jack is going up eighteen.
Speaker 4: He almost so. Jack gets in the middle on eighteen.
Speaker 4: It's the middle of the green on eighteen, doesn't get
Speaker 4: up to the There's not the usual pin that we've
Speaker 4: become so accustomed to right there, like middle left there
Speaker 4: in the in the swale, and it's his top back
Speaker 4: right pin would have been perfect in the normal pin
Speaker 4: we're used to. It has like a fifty footter that
Speaker 4: he almost he puts it in the heart and people
Speaker 4: are like losing their mind, like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 4: I thought that was going in. It's like like you know, reach, reach,
Speaker 4: and it was it nearly went in. He's just a
Speaker 4: tap in part.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if he had made that putt and
Speaker 6: essentially had just like shot twenty nine to win the Masters,
Speaker 6: like and there was no doubt nobody was gonna even
Speaker 6: like have it.
Speaker 3: But to catch.
Speaker 4: Him as he was walking up, Venturi says, in all
Speaker 4: my years and in the golf, in all my years
Speaker 4: in the golf, I think that was the most emotional
Speaker 4: and largest ovation I've ever heard, is Jack is walking
Speaker 4: up to the green and he almost makes it. He goes,
Speaker 4: that was right in the middle. Pat, what a play,
Speaker 4: what a champion, what a round? What a player? Ah beautiful,
Speaker 4: he says, ah beautiful when he hugs Jackie as his
Speaker 4: kid obviously as they're walking off. So that's there's still
Speaker 4: a lot of golf to be played. So anything from
Speaker 4: Jack and eighteen we got that cup go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well, the other the putt, the putt was incredible in
Speaker 2: the heart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of rolls.
Speaker 2: Lay like an eighty footer completely dead where you just
Speaker 2: have the tap in. Meanwhile, though the shark, the shark
Speaker 2: is circling.
Speaker 4: The shark is circling. So he looked horrible. Look just
Speaker 4: yanking the ball saving part. Then he goes to birdie fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.
Speaker 4: That's it, that's all he did. Seventeen we've talked about where.
Speaker 3: We didn't really describe what it was though. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: want to hear your description of.
Speaker 2: What well, I mean sixteen he hits that shot and
Speaker 2: it and it just kind of corrals in and I
Speaker 2: feel like when Jack was putting out if I if
Speaker 2: I recall Norman's around fifteen, and Ben Wright says, here
Speaker 2: we have it a shark and a bear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of animal terms flying this line.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: But then at sixteen he hits like just like the
Speaker 2: the just such an epic shot, you know where it
Speaker 2: plays the slope perfectly corrals it in and it's just like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it you know what like you guys,
Speaker 2: I can't remember who said it was.
Speaker 5: Kind of a Rory esque.
Speaker 2: Yes it was, because he would hit that shot and
Speaker 2: they followed it with the snap pook off seventeen t
Speaker 2: were like, what where did that come from?
Speaker 4: The best player in the world. It's like they look
Speaker 4: like nobody could beat you. And then you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was incredible. Sixteen was it was not that I
Speaker 4: know we're talking about these near aces, but I mean
Speaker 4: kite airmailed it. Peven hit in the middle of the pond.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like just everybody throwing it to the same
Speaker 4: spot in like a wedge and sucking it back past
Speaker 4: the hole. There was variability there even on these last
Speaker 4: five five to six groups. So on seventeen, like, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Eisenhower's tree is there, Like you wonder if it's like
Speaker 4: caught in the Eisenhower tree. You just know you could
Speaker 4: see the ball snapping off the tee and that's it.
Speaker 4: There's questions on whether you should get relief from a
Speaker 4: sprinkler head that is for the seventh green. It's on
Speaker 4: like the fringe of the seventh green. And this is
Speaker 4: what Andy, I think you ended up over here when
Speaker 4: you played around. Not to throw your round here again,
Speaker 4: but like you just.
Speaker 2: Don't see this much few more trees then, yes, that
Speaker 2: was the sightlines through. I just seem good point out
Speaker 2: that these are two of the greatest shots in Masters
Speaker 2: history that nobody would be able to hit now because
Speaker 2: they've planted a gazillion trees over there to prohibit like.
Speaker 5: The recovery shots.
Speaker 2: There's also like crazy the other thing you know, just
Speaker 2: watching this, there's no p pine straw on the golf court.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, nope, there's nothing, no pine straw sightlines just
Speaker 4: from like through around fifteen and fourteen, there's no it's
Speaker 4: just kind of open. So this still is kind of
Speaker 4: a it's a low runner onto the front of the
Speaker 4: green and he makes essentially about the same length putt
Speaker 4: as Jack. Like the shot to get from essentially seventh
Speaker 4: green to call it like twelve feet was a miracle
Speaker 4: uses the ground, runs it up there and then makes
Speaker 4: the putt and gets the yes sir, and is smiling
Speaker 4: and runs like is kind of like skipping to the eighteenth.
Speaker 6: Career playing the hits using guests are yet again for
Speaker 6: Norman Era, this is like when a one hit wonder
Speaker 6: has a radio hit. You hear it like ten minutes
Speaker 6: after you heard it on the radio again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, while this is going on, top Kite is basically
Speaker 2: hit a great pot that ran that if he hit
Speaker 2: a fraction harder goes in and gets into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But once again, nobody talks about how top Kite probably
Speaker 2: should have wont this.
Speaker 3: And Kevin, yeah best like hits a six iron Venturi.
Speaker 6: We didn't really talk a lot about Venturi, who's kind
Speaker 6: of a dick, like in a lot of ways, like
Speaker 6: in a very honest way, but like we'll cook people
Speaker 6: like if they don't. And he you know, everybody's rooting
Speaker 6: for Jack at this point. It's like they kind of
Speaker 6: want Jack to win. Like, you know, Kite hits his
Speaker 6: great six iron into the green and just how you
Speaker 6: think it was. It hits the top of the hill
Speaker 6: and releases right at the pin and and Ventura's like, oh,
Speaker 6: kind of a lucky there.
Speaker 3: It was like, no, dude, like that's a really good shot.
Speaker 4: It was the best approach shot on eighteen of the
Speaker 4: day of this of this broadcast.
Speaker 6: That's and then what does the adventure you say on
Speaker 6: the putt? You cannot be short here. You do not
Speaker 6: be short as he hits it, just as I said short,
Speaker 6: didn't hold the line low left, short, can't be short there.
Speaker 6: I guarantee Norman will not be short here on his putt.
Speaker 4: I mean I get it. I get his point, Like
Speaker 4: he didn't give it enough. It got to the it
Speaker 4: got to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just missed them
Speaker 4: the low side. But that yeah, and he loses by
Speaker 4: a shot. Tom Kite incredible. He will win undoubtedly with
Speaker 4: how consistency, how consistent he is. His jacket is coming,
Speaker 4: is what they said. Uh so Norman Birdie's seventeen I
Speaker 4: will just say I forgot to mention at seventeen when
Speaker 4: when Jack made his and we got the yes, sir.
Speaker 4: They asked, whiskopfu has his history with him? Like Jack, Tom,
Speaker 4: you must be a jumble of emotion right now, he goes.
Speaker 4: I jumped up. I jumped up I like, I can't
Speaker 4: believe this is happening. Weiss Coffin is in the younger
Speaker 4: than Jack. He's in the broadcast booth, and you got Jack.
Speaker 4: He must be a jumble of emotion. So so Norman
Speaker 4: follows shortly makes his own birdy at seventeen eighteen, as
Speaker 4: we talked about, makes draws the three wood perfect down
Speaker 4: the middle, has the four iron.
Speaker 3: I got a sure that's right here.
Speaker 6: We can beach can put up of Norman standing in
Speaker 6: the middle of the fairly here.
Speaker 4: The whole thing, you know, part for a playoff. Mh.
Speaker 3: Probably what we're thinking, like one ninety here or something,
Speaker 3: but you know, two hundred.
Speaker 5: Seventy seven.
Speaker 3: Trying to hit a draw up pill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're probably playing that. It's probably
Speaker 2: one ninety five shot he's trying to and he's in
Speaker 2: in four iron one.
Speaker 4: Thing eighteen is much more open on the tea box,
Speaker 4: less claustrophobic like the ropes. I don't know if the
Speaker 4: rope line in the box is just big.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: The other thing is the box is thirty yards up.
Speaker 4: It's not very back. I understand it's on the top
Speaker 4: of that hillie.
Speaker 5: Of the tea box.
Speaker 2: Like the cluster of trees is a lot closer to
Speaker 2: the tea box.
Speaker 4: It's so it just feels so just kind of roomy
Speaker 4: up there. Uh So he gets it up there.
Speaker 3: I have a next shot here where he hits the crowd.
Speaker 4: Well as he's as he's over the ball, Ventory goes,
Speaker 4: if there's any doubt about the greatness of the man, Oh,
Speaker 4: this is about Jack, about the great man. He's proven
Speaker 4: it today. But they're talking about how Ventory is like
Speaker 4: surely a playoff or a win, like probably not. A
Speaker 4: bogie is coming. Everybody's congregating around the tenth Green. So
Speaker 4: they have video of the masses running down for the
Speaker 4: Norman Nicholas playoff, Like everybody's encircling the tenth Green, and
Speaker 4: and they're like they're all they're all heading there. This
Speaker 4: is gonna be a playoff, you know, at worst, or
Speaker 4: a win for Norman. You know he's gonna get his win.
Speaker 4: So all right, so go ahead, Kevin, I don't interrupt you.
Speaker 3: No, it just you know, Norman we talked a little
Speaker 3: about the beginning.
Speaker 6: I always remember this in Sports Illustrated that Rick Raley
Speaker 6: referred to it as his four iron fo r e
Speaker 6: uh and because he hits it, not hitting fifteen rows
Speaker 6: deep into the crowd here. It's like at the top,
Speaker 6: like at the kind of the top of the picture
Speaker 6: here if you're watching on YouTube, is where the ball lands.
Speaker 6: It's just such an incredible like miss for like the
Speaker 6: championship was on the line, but he hits a decent
Speaker 6: enough chip to where he ends up with this putt
Speaker 6: in the next frame here to to ship.
Speaker 4: Was incredible chiprun down there.
Speaker 5: Good. Okay, it's like that is so good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously there's one more frame here with the putt
Speaker 6: like standing over it. He does not hit the greatest
Speaker 6: putt here. Uh you know, misses by a good foot
Speaker 6: on the left winner. It's like, you know, maybe eight
Speaker 6: inches on the left. But just like I don't know,
Speaker 6: I can't help but feel a little bit for Norman
Speaker 6: as I go back through the last month, through some
Speaker 6: of these old masters of just how close he was
Speaker 6: to winning like four green jackets and gets blanked over again.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't that approach shot just go for the playoff.
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable how wide that approach shot was. I know
Speaker 4: he had the four iron after you just watched what
Speaker 4: he did on seventeen Venturi is like sort of incredulous.
Speaker 4: He goes, he's watched this for the last two hours.
Speaker 4: He goes, you're not supposed to do these things in golf,
Speaker 4: what you're watching, You're not supposed to do this. And
Speaker 4: then we get the other side of the coin of
Speaker 4: like the very bad with the approach after the recovery
Speaker 4: for Birdie on seventeen, where he's just miles into the
Speaker 4: gallery and does the one thing. I honestly, the fact
Speaker 4: that he had that putt for Parr was a miracle.
Speaker 4: I thought the chip was incredible that he really I
Speaker 4: thought he was dead. And in jail Fire, there's an
Speaker 4: incredible visual of Norman they've got to clear out, like
Speaker 4: ten rows. He's so far back and there's all this,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's Augusta, they probably don't want to
Speaker 4: say this, but like detritis, there's water bottles and you know,
Speaker 4: like rappers, and he's standing there and it's taking while
Speaker 4: for these people of an advanced age to screw up.
Speaker 4: He starts kicking these bottles like he looks fucked, like resign.
Speaker 4: He has his hands on his hips, like looks like
Speaker 4: he's in jail. Seems to appear to have the attitude
Speaker 4: body language of someone who's done. Gets to the point
Speaker 4: where like it's unbelievable how he's just looking around so mad,
Speaker 4: like I'm done, I'm toast, and kicks a couple like
Speaker 4: extra leftover items of garbage after like these the rows
Speaker 4: of people have been moved back, and.
Speaker 6: You know, after birdying four in row, you know, he
Speaker 6: was thinking, I'm going to burdie this last hole and
Speaker 6: I'm gonna win the freaking masters.
Speaker 4: I just I'd never I don't recall that this hun
Speaker 4: on a single putt at the very end with Norman.
Speaker 4: I just you see the Jack and this was essentially
Speaker 4: the same anything as Rory last year on eighteen, like
Speaker 4: that tension and death in the air, life or death,
Speaker 4: and you just it's been reduced to Jack and all
Speaker 4: his charge, which is of course sorryer, but I just
Speaker 4: don't remember it coming down to the wire. And of
Speaker 4: course he's in the Jones cabin. I think it's Jones.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was it, which is you know, left to
Speaker 4: ten there, and so I have to race him over
Speaker 4: to the Butler cabin, which of.
Speaker 3: Course I have a good visual hair of him walking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was very funny this security guard
Speaker 6: sticking his hand out to.
Speaker 3: Shake his hand as Nicholas does shake his hand, and.
Speaker 4: Random people just like walk in, yeah, shake his hand.
Speaker 4: Whoever that man is who's on it appears in the video,
Speaker 4: but just walks in from the security to shake this
Speaker 4: guy's hand with the greatest major ever like hopefully has
Speaker 4: this is some keepsake, it's just Joe's mo maybe it's
Speaker 4: a friend to Nicholas.
Speaker 5: Kevin. You you illuminated this.
Speaker 2: I think this is one of the greatest early memes
Speaker 2: if only social media existed when this was created. I
Speaker 2: saw I was happy that you gathered this because this
Speaker 2: was the one asset I wanted to be in here.
Speaker 2: That floating head, jack floating over twelve, Like what an
Speaker 2: unflattering picture.
Speaker 5: At the head? He just what's the master? What's the
Speaker 5: six s green jacket?
Speaker 2: And it's like, let's put together the worst looking photo
Speaker 2: we can.
Speaker 6: If you're listening listening on the pod, it's it's a
Speaker 6: shot of twelve for some reason, and Jack on after
Speaker 6: you made the putt on seventeen.
Speaker 3: Looking at the sky, which I was alluding to.
Speaker 6: But it's like like his disembodied head is like sort
Speaker 6: of floating over the bridge.
Speaker 2: It's nineteen eighty six photoshop capabilities here.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like transparent too, so like where Jack's
Speaker 6: collar is, you can still see through the green and
Speaker 6: like part of his like shirt and skin on the green.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a trip.
Speaker 4: When Norman misses the putt badly, Venturi goes, that is
Speaker 4: hard to believe. What a finish, What a finish, My god,
Speaker 4: what a game?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: And so they rush Jack. They get him to Butler cabin.
Speaker 4: You could hear him. Musburger's doing the voiceover with he's
Speaker 4: in the cabin with hord Harden, who's the chairman of
Speaker 4: Augusta National at the time.
Speaker 3: Trying to get some asking questions and then.
Speaker 4: Well that's he didn't to ask. But then you can
Speaker 4: hear Jack kind of rustling in, because the audio of
Speaker 4: this whole day is like you can hear everything in
Speaker 4: the room and around the hole. It's like this Mike's
Speaker 4: picking up, there's Jack like coming back, where's my Jack
Speaker 4: like rustling in to get to get a seat, as
Speaker 4: Musburger does the voiceover, Uh, so they go they go
Speaker 4: to Musburger. Never in the history of golf is a
Speaker 4: more popular champion Ben crowned Hordhart and the chairman talks
Speaker 4: about we have two men who have prevailed. Who's the other,
Speaker 4: Sam Randolph? I mean got he prevailed? He did?
Speaker 2: Do you know how many more Masters Sam Randolph played
Speaker 2: in what another handwer This was his best eighteen as
Speaker 2: am was pretty good. Was a bona fide pro thirty six,
Speaker 2: thirty six the year before, Oh wow, okay, th eighteen
Speaker 2: was his best Master's finish, the USC Hall of Finish
Speaker 2: runner up the year before in the US AM then
Speaker 2: won the US AM to get it. And so he
Speaker 2: played played the Masters twice two years in a row
Speaker 2: as an abb which is pretty rare.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they go to jack. It's been an unusual year
Speaker 4: for me. I really don't have uh, I mean Hoarhart
Speaker 4: and asking Sam Rodolph is the biggest sort of total
Speaker 4: curveball for the moment like this all time? What a
Speaker 4: Master's the greatest masters I've ever seen? That, Venturi says.
Speaker 4: And they've got to talk to Sam Randolph. He's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna go pro. And it was a
Speaker 4: great day. I think the question was, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: how was your day out there? I hope you enjoyed yourself.
Speaker 4: To Randolph did low Am that everyone just wants to
Speaker 4: hear from Jack. Pretty good. I hope you had a
Speaker 4: nice day. Jack says, it's been unusual year for me.
Speaker 4: I really just played awful and started playing well about
Speaker 4: a week ago. I felt like I could play. I
Speaker 4: didn't expect to be in position to win. I felt
Speaker 4: this morning all of a sudden though. If I shot
Speaker 4: sixty six, I thought I'd tie it. If I shot
Speaker 4: sixty five, I'd win it. And that's sort of the masters, right,
Speaker 4: Like I like, it can happen really fast on a Sunday.
Speaker 4: Of course, you can't shoot back nine thirties every time,
Speaker 4: but he's been there. He's like, I haven't had my game.
Speaker 4: But I wake up on Sunday and he's like, and
Speaker 4: you know, maybe sixty six I can tie it. In
Speaker 4: sixty five, maybe maybe maybe I'd win. And that's kind
Speaker 4: of what happened. He said, I haven't had this much
Speaker 4: fun in six years. He gets emotional talking about Jackiet
Speaker 4: Jackie when they ask him about his spot. I'm fifteen,
Speaker 4: you know I talked to Jackie, and then just to
Speaker 4: mention of Jackie gets some going and very emotional and
Speaker 4: how he hasn't had that much fun in six years,
Speaker 4: talked about the crowd being deafening and having to wipe
Speaker 4: tears from his eyes, and like, you got golf to play,
Speaker 4: You got golf to play. When he was walking from
Speaker 4: like greens and teas as the crowds were firing him up.
Speaker 6: Kuse Andy, I didn't know Jackie was such a good player,
Speaker 6: talking about how he won the North South Amateur.
Speaker 5: Right, great players, great parents.
Speaker 4: Right, we got a lot of that, a lot of
Speaker 4: that throughout, which was a special moment, you like the
Speaker 4: fathers and sons deal was. It was evident throughout. And yeah,
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, I'd heard all about how like
Speaker 4: I can't win anymore, and I said, I'm gonna prove
Speaker 4: him wrong, you know. I wanted to show they were wrong.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, an all time and all time Masters
Speaker 4: for sure? What else am I leaving leaving off the
Speaker 4: table here?
Speaker 3: Anything? Just my one last kind of journalism tidbit? Here
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 6: Dave Kindred, famous sports writer, was washing posts and stuff.
Speaker 6: Didn't attend this Masters. It was like the first one
Speaker 6: in twenty some years or something. He didn't go to
Speaker 6: because he was attending the wedding of his son, and
Speaker 6: so all these people were like, oh man, bet you
Speaker 6: you suck that you miss out whatever. And Nicholas heard
Speaker 6: about this and wrote Kindred a letter and it was like,
Speaker 6: I just want you to know, like how much I
Speaker 6: admire the decision that you made, Like family is like
Speaker 6: way more important than anything that I could have ever done.
Speaker 6: And if you ever want to know like the inside
Speaker 6: scoop on what happened in nineteen six, just.
Speaker 3: Give me a call. I'll be happy to give you
Speaker 3: the tail. That's kind of cool thing.
Speaker 4: Andy, you got to run? You got any sign off, Kevin,
Speaker 4: and I can wrap it? You got anything else?
Speaker 5: All time? All time?
Speaker 2: Masters was super fun to do it, and I think, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't like what gets lost to time is just
Speaker 2: the gauntlet that he goes through of players to beat.
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever see a leaderboard like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was you know, it'd be you know, effectively like
Speaker 2: right now is would be you know, you have like
Speaker 2: I don't know, Justin Rose wins and it's Rob Rory Scheffler.
Speaker 4: It's almost like Tiger, but like healthy tiger. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But like Francesco Mullinari was problemly.
Speaker 4: Oh totally. Oh, I'm not comparing it to nineteen. I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like Tiger two years ago, I don't know, healthy Tiger
Speaker 4: two years ago. Having to take on those guys incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just like crazy. All right, well we'll button it up.
Speaker 9: R of R.
Speaker 4: Good good tiing you keV. This was fun. This is enjoyable.
Speaker 4: Weather notes you got. I just I found Jack to
Speaker 4: be you know, we tend to think of him at
Speaker 4: pretty dry, but you know this was one you hear
Speaker 4: about from your dad and you hear about like I
Speaker 4: wasn't around. I didn't remember, like to Andy's point, just
Speaker 4: the amount of people who were coming at him, the
Speaker 4: amount of people like Bias. Terris was the favorite, Norman
Speaker 4: was a favorite at the start, Nikki Price was the
Speaker 4: favorite at the start of the day. You know, Lennard's
Speaker 4: this great defending champ at number one in the world,
Speaker 4: and Jack's like, you know, people are saying, I was
Speaker 4: at a USGA dinner like the week before, and they're
Speaker 4: asked him like essentially, when you're gonna stop playing? So
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not playing well and I'm not going
Speaker 4: to go out playing poorly. I'm not going to go
Speaker 4: out playing like embarrassing myself. I'm playing poorly. This is
Speaker 4: not how I'm gonna finish. And then like a week
Speaker 4: later he's shooting thirty on the back, nine sixty five
Speaker 4: on Sunday. I don't think it can really be over romanticized,
Speaker 4: quite frankly, or overhyped.
Speaker 6: Every sportswriter who's ever lived has covered golf has written
Speaker 6: some version of like in the Day Jack Nicholas, like
Speaker 6: puts you in a time machine and made you forget
Speaker 6: that we could you know, you could be forever young.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I don't have a memory of this.
Speaker 6: I was born late in seventy seven, and so you know,
Speaker 6: I'm nine years old at this point.
Speaker 3: I don't have like really any interest in golf whatever.
Speaker 6: But I got permission to tell this story. My father
Speaker 6: golf fan. My father kind of grew up kind of
Speaker 6: more blue collar. He was, you know, his father was
Speaker 6: was a history professor, but he also like worked as
Speaker 6: like a newspaper delivery guy.
Speaker 3: And like so my dad, like he in college, he
Speaker 3: worked in a cannery and stuff.
Speaker 6: He was like a he became a lawyer later in life,
Speaker 6: but he was he was kind of an aspiring reacher
Speaker 6: my mom. Her father was a doctor, and he they
Speaker 6: were kind of a bit more you knowuppercross at least
Speaker 6: for Montana's sake or whatever. And my grandfather is very
Speaker 6: proper person, you know, he like knew Shakespeare, and he
Speaker 6: was like he loved to play cribbage, and he was
Speaker 6: a more serious person. It's nineteen eighty six. Masters comes
Speaker 6: along and they're having I don't know if it's Easter dinner,
Speaker 6: because I don't think has happened on Easter, but it's
Speaker 6: like around then, it's like a holiday. And my parents
Speaker 6: are in Gray Falls, Montana, and dinner is being served
Speaker 6: like while the Masters is going on. And my grandparents,
Speaker 6: who liked golf, certainly didn't think that you would, like,
Speaker 6: you know, skip out on dinner to watch a golf
Speaker 6: tournament and certainly didn't grasp that like what Jack Nicholas
Speaker 6: winning the Masters would meant. And so my father is
Speaker 6: like being called to dinner repeatedly while the back nine
Speaker 6: run is going on, and he's sort of like putting
Speaker 6: off my my prim and proper grandparents and keeps kind
Speaker 6: of like making excuses to like go back into the
Speaker 6: living room and turn the TV on and stuff, and
Speaker 6: I think my mother was like from my dad's telling
Speaker 6: of it, was.
Speaker 3: Kind of mortified about the whole thing.
Speaker 6: And I just love the image of my dad being like, yeah,
Speaker 6: but like Jack Nicholas is winning the Masters, like sir,
Speaker 6: can we just like pause the asparagus and lamb that's
Speaker 6: being served here and I can go finish up this
Speaker 6: Masters pretty good.
Speaker 4: If there is any doubt about the greatness of this
Speaker 4: man inventory he said, yeah, there's everybody just there was
Speaker 4: the right Thompson essay that like got me into my
Speaker 4: first like when I was gonna cover my first Masters,
Speaker 4: and got me all fired up. I think it was
Speaker 4: probably about ten years ago now where you know about
Speaker 4: like his dad and came here, son, you're gona Jacks
Speaker 4: going about to win the Masters, and this would be
Speaker 4: the greatest day or story of your life. And that
Speaker 4: got me all fired up to go the mouth even
Speaker 4: though I was through I was two and a half.
Speaker 4: I was two almost three years. All the time, my
Speaker 4: dad was like a big golfer and then got into
Speaker 4: golf caddying, and Nicholas was from Ohio. Weiscoff was from
Speaker 4: Cleveland like they were. You would hear stories of him
Speaker 4: like watching this and and but that's all I had.
Speaker 4: Like the first Masters I remember watching my parents were
Speaker 4: like kind of the woozy and Ali and in the
Speaker 4: nineties early nineties, and this one you just are relying
Speaker 4: for me and relying on my dad. So watching it
Speaker 4: back was like just trying to think in modern media terms,
Speaker 4: how this would be covered. It would like it we
Speaker 4: just self combust between like the Norman issue, Sevy issue,
Speaker 4: the SEV fifteen as the best player in the world
Speaker 4: at the time.
Speaker 6: I mean this, dude, I think I told this in
Speaker 6: the when I joined Frida Egg. Like Rick Riley's game
Speaker 6: story about the Age six Masters is kind of a
Speaker 6: like part of my sports writing origin story.
Speaker 3: I didn't read it until ten years after it ran.
Speaker 6: But I was so like, kind of in awe of
Speaker 6: the way that the you could write a game story
Speaker 6: that good that would make you feel like you were
Speaker 6: reliving this event. I mean, it wasn't until the what
Speaker 6: was probably what six years ago or something that the
Speaker 6: Masters put these things up on the broadcast I think
Speaker 6: on YouTube where.
Speaker 4: You can watch the YEP.
Speaker 6: So I didn't watch the full accounting of this until,
Speaker 6: you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and my recollection or
Speaker 6: my memories of this are almost all entirely from reading
Speaker 6: print stories, like of reading that Jenkins story that I
Speaker 6: alluded to earlier, but he killed more foreigners than Eisenhower.
Speaker 6: Like it's just like that kind of shows you like
Speaker 6: how different it was, but how the power of print
Speaker 6: and the reason why I became a writer is because
Speaker 6: those written things are what kind of influenced me to
Speaker 6: get into this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, an incredible rewatch worth the time. It's three hours,
Speaker 4: which can take a while, you know, jump around, get
Speaker 4: in there. But there's so many, you know, nuggets, so
Speaker 4: many amusements. The broadcast is just hilarious in and of itself.
Speaker 4: I'm sure was you know, it's just it's forty years ago,
Speaker 4: so there's all sorts of different different vernacular, different technology,
Speaker 4: and then the greatest, you know, arguably the greatest major
Speaker 4: championship of all time. Anything else, any other amusements, nuggets
Speaker 4: you want to throw out there, total strays to unload
Speaker 4: the notebook. We don't need to end up from Stappy
Speaker 4: Jack quote, but we certainly can. Just to add to
Speaker 4: Andy's point, one of their great values of watching this
Speaker 4: are just the worst shots are the worst shots you've
Speaker 4: ever seen, and there's like a list of ten of
Speaker 4: them that you can pick from Snave on fifteen, peven
Speaker 4: Norman like four or five times, Lonner like it's just
Speaker 4: you miss you miss bad. So that's another like just
Speaker 4: interesting part of the watch. So yeah, I didn't like
Speaker 4: that the broadcast just one note on the broadcast went
Speaker 4: out with the mistake, but with Brent saying there he
Speaker 4: is hugging jack and Jackie hugging on the fifteenth green
Speaker 4: he has won the Masters again, and then it goes
Speaker 4: to faith to Black. It's of course on the eighteenth
Speaker 4: after they're walking off. It's just there's a lot of
Speaker 4: that stuff that people modern Twitter would go nuts about.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I didn't have any other things really,
Speaker 6: and I mean I did a ranking of greatest hair.
Speaker 3: Because like I had number one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg Norman like different best hair. I mean, so
Speaker 6: back then, you know a lot of golfers. Now you
Speaker 6: see him, they take off their hat and they're balding
Speaker 6: or whatever. It's probably because they've been wearing hats for
Speaker 6: twenty years whatever. But the locks were like incredible back then,
Speaker 6: So like I had longer at number five, but what
Speaker 6: an incredible like coy. Nick Price's hair is like a
Speaker 6: perfectly helmet. Tom Kite wears advisors. You can't really see it,
Speaker 6: but he had great hair. Corey Pavin's hair is incredible,
Speaker 6: and then Greg Norman's really is like it's the King.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you can put Jack in hair. Look,
Speaker 6: Jack has great hair too. It's just like how blonde
Speaker 6: and you know, kind of perfect hair to Norman and
Speaker 6: Nicholas have. It's kind of crazy that like that that
Speaker 6: level of blonde doesn't really exist for some reason, we've
Speaker 6: bred it out of the modern game everything.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just love the lack of hats. That's such a
Speaker 3: neat thing.
Speaker 6: My guy, Calvin Pete finishes eleventh in this Masters is high.
Speaker 6: It's his best Master's performance ever. You know, Calvin had
Speaker 6: some real frustrations and issues with the Masters. You know,
Speaker 6: years prior he'd basically kind of detonated him after playing
Speaker 6: poorly here. He'd basically said, you know, how would you
Speaker 6: feel like if you came to a place where you
Speaker 6: didn't feel like you were welcome. I feel like I'm
Speaker 6: you know, I feel like a slave. I feel like
Speaker 6: I'm a second class citizen, and people just were like, whoa,
Speaker 6: like you nobody talks about the masters like this, and
Speaker 6: he kind of walked it back and was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: just in.
Speaker 3: The years later it was a bad mood or whatever.
Speaker 6: It's just like the crowd is cheering for him as
Speaker 6: he walks up eighteen and stuff, and then he takes
Speaker 6: his hat off and kind.
Speaker 3: Of waves it to the crowd.
Speaker 6: I mean, considering Augusta's history, pretty cool moment in eighty six.
Speaker 6: You know, we're still ten years away from Tiger, eleven
Speaker 6: years away from Tiger winning, and like the scene of
Speaker 6: all the workers in Augusta coming out to the veranda
Speaker 6: and clapping for him and stuff, but like kind of
Speaker 6: cool moments in racial history of like, I don't know
Speaker 6: that Augusta consider him say that we're they're proud of
Speaker 6: their history, but at least they've evolved over time, and
Speaker 6: I think now are thought of as like a pretty
Speaker 6: I think it was a pretty like of the Major's
Speaker 6: a pretty inclusive, pretty progressive place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I think that's fair point. That's fair point.
Speaker 4: He was there just that just one shot, essentially Pete
Speaker 4: finishing up on eighteen the top ten that the ventury
Speaker 4: quote I want to add when Norman's over, the body says,
Speaker 4: you're looking at a man who wins it outright or
Speaker 4: goes down the tent pole in a playoff. Neither of
Speaker 4: those would happen. So he added, My gracious, what a
Speaker 4: day had had? Just everything, And I'll close with what
Speaker 4: he said, It just everything seems to happen here, And
Speaker 4: that was the eighty six broadcast. Has never been a
Speaker 4: greater example of how it all just seems to happen,
Speaker 4: and felt like we got a similar thing last year
Speaker 4: in twenty five. All right, Kevin, this beefy flashback Friday Friday,
Speaker 4: thanks to Mercedes. I mean, pay my notes are like
Speaker 4: I just want to keep going through them. I got
Speaker 4: fifteen pages of notes. But this is fun.
Speaker 5: We got that work.
Speaker 3: Good job. I'm appreciate you. It work.
Speaker 4: We got to go to the Masters. We're going next week.
Speaker 4: Excited to get down there. Can't wait. We'll be providing
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Speaker 4: Obviously you'll be humming. I can't wait.
Speaker 6: Got some good content coming too, if you if you're
Speaker 6: listening to this, there's a there's a big story that
Speaker 6: we're putting out today.
Speaker 3: In case we want to hold it back.
Speaker 6: I won't reveal what it is, but a big profile
Speaker 6: of a contender of the Masters, I think, so yeah,
Speaker 6: excited about that. I hope you'll, hopefully you'll go right
Speaker 6: from this pod to reading five thousand words about something
Speaker 6: that I wrote.
Speaker 4: So you should, you should be. I know people read
Speaker 4: less and less, but this is worth your time. It's
Speaker 4: a fabulous, fabulous piece of writing that you put put
Speaker 4: in the effort for UH to get you in the
Speaker 4: mood for next week for the Masters. Can't wait to
Speaker 4: get down there. We will talk to you guys on
Speaker 4: Sunday night, Monday morning, probably Sunday night, we'll have the
Speaker 4: we'll record Sunday, have the pod up Monday, Andy, who knows,
Speaker 4: maybe in Indianapolis or something, but we'll be. We'll be
Speaker 4: in augusta next time I'm talking to you, So I
Speaker 4: can't wait to get to it. Thank you guys for
Speaker 4: listening to this big flashback Friday edition on Shotguns. Start talk
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