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Speaker 1: Now, The Shotguns Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of setup work that we

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Speaker 1: have to do in order to make a tournament work.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how

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Speaker 1: we do a shotgun start here And.

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Speaker 2: Alright, alright, alright, did no man?

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Speaker 3: Darn your.

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Speaker 4: Greetings and welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotguns Start.

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Speaker 4: It is April third, Andy, how are we doing, bred Dan?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. I gotta say I I feel like

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Speaker 2: I missed the mark. I've remedied this situation. You know,

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Speaker 2: important people in my life. I put calendar reminders for birthdays.

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Speaker 5: But I don't always do this.

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Speaker 2: There's like four people in my life that I have

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Speaker 2: been set up for that like I wouldn't otherwise. Remember, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the beautiful boy the silver Slovak turns fifty.

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Speaker 4: You don't have a calendar reminder for that, dude.

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Speaker 5: I've now said it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm.

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Speaker 5: The beautiful boy.

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Speaker 4: You got Wes silver Slovak TV. I did you know?

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Speaker 4: I did help, but I couldn't help. But notice we're

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Speaker 4: joined by Kevin van Volkomberg. Jump in there, Kevin. We're

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Speaker 4: privileged to have you here. We're gonna be doing a

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Speaker 4: jumbo flashback, Brendon.

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Speaker 6: I'm playing the role of foreign invader here in this podcast.

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Speaker 3: All the Americans are gonna have to crumple in my wake.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do a big flashback on a sort of

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Speaker 4: lesser known Lesser talked about Masters nineteen eighty six on

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Speaker 4: its fortieth anniversary. But you're breaking up the BFB the

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Speaker 4: Sabo picture, Andy was reminding me the other day. You're

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Speaker 4: talking to Bernhard Lanner, I believe is how he pronounced

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Speaker 4: the G in there on your Friday podcast, and Sabatini's

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Speaker 4: in the background. I'm just like wondering this very serious

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: What is he a bring Sabatini fan? Like, of course

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Speaker 4: he probably hasn't been up on the whole thing. That

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Speaker 4: was all I could think about in some of the clips,

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Speaker 4: is what was Bernhard thinking as you were asking him

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Speaker 4: questions and Sabbo was looking over his shoulder. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't mean.

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Speaker 7: To butt in here, but this is this is he's

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Speaker 7: got to be scouting this competition. He's out there now.

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Speaker 7: I think that I think Bernie is very aware.

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Speaker 4: That today Rory has come to this Chips Tour, He's

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Speaker 4: already signed up for the PGA, uh Senior PGA as

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Speaker 4: it were very exciting development here uh less exciting real quick,

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Speaker 4: before we get this flashback, Tiger officially out of the

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Speaker 4: Ryder Cup. Captaincy has told the PGA he's not like

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, September twenty twenty seven is a

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Speaker 4: long way away, right, So, like, I guess that is newsworthy.

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Speaker 4: Did we expect to play the Masters next week?

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Speaker 4: Do we expect you know, the short term stuff? No,

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Speaker 4: but it's newsworthy in a way. I guess there was

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Speaker 4: Justin Leonard was on Golf Channel Stadium's case only because

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Speaker 4: he was prompted to Stu sink Gott to bring Larry

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Speaker 4: Nelson maybe back talking about four invaders, you know, intruders

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Speaker 4: lead the troops into Ireland. Who knows there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of caps. So Tiger officially declining twenty twenty seven. Kind

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Speaker 4: of a sad deal. Tiger and Phil I don't know

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Speaker 4: if they would have been good captains. They quite frankly

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Speaker 4: maybe one day, you know, maybe twenty nine. Who knows

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Speaker 4: when that'll happen. So he's out for that. The police

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Speaker 4: I don't need to watch it. He's had so many

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Speaker 4: of these sad moments. I'm not saying that makes me

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Speaker 4: So see some of the pictures. Doesn't look good? Does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is uh, this is the best

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys have it more that

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Speaker 2: news that Memorial Parks adding a pod that next time

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Speaker 5: Now they're building a pond to uphold this tradition.

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Speaker 4: A the golf course.

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Speaker 4: It's it's farcical. Let's just like be honest with ourselves

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't have moved from where the pond was already

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Speaker 4: But this appears to be well, the rendering is grotesque.

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Speaker 4: that's why he built the hole, not not for that,

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Tom.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's excited about the new water feature. I don't

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Speaker 6: We'll leave it at what great ponds have you been

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Speaker 3: In the past.

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Speaker 2: I was pushing him Devlin's billibon.

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Speaker 4: That's what I mean. That's essentially what they're trying to

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Speaker 6: Don't dis count this social media cloud that you get

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Speaker 4: That's it. I mean, just leave it where it was

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Speaker 4: what a complete farce. And it's im MUNI nonetheless, that's it.

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Speaker 4: a KFC start at fifty five for insurance reasons. That's

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Speaker 4: what we want on this competitive league sounds I just

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Speaker 2: In before we get Before we get there, you know,

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Speaker 2: what I've realized this week is that there's one person.

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Speaker 2: You know, Saturday's a big, big night of college basketball,

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Speaker 4: Who's that PJJ? Because of his anti early stuff, PJ.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get PJ some Illinois gear.

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Speaker 7: I am more of the game. I am desperate. I

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Speaker 7: Just do your job. Finish, finish the story. It's just

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Speaker 7: I like that you're giving me an opportunity to just

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Speaker 7: on the right foot. Try to stay positive the Balkans. Please,

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Speaker 4: I Pj's not a bit with PJ. I brought it up,

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Speaker 4: he was shouting and angry. The boy does not like

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Speaker 4: Yukon needs them to be stopped.

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Speaker 5: Someone must stop them. Hopefully it could be the.

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Speaker 4: Line I it's foreign intruders. The foreigners is what learned here.

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Speaker 4: They'd be referred to the Balkans and the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 5: Should I get my wine out for this segment.

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Speaker 4: No, no whine.

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Speaker 5: That's frustrating.

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Speaker 4: I was just popping him. I mean, he puts this

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Speaker 2: I've recorded with Joseph before. We're like out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: The wine comes out, but Joseph he's the one drinking it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He's just drinking a glass of wine and I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: Okay, so Saturday, you're not going confirm Final four, but Monday,

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Speaker 4: perhaps per chance, then we'll just you don't have to

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I just I've I just can't. I can't

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Speaker 4: He went seventy four, seventy one, sixty nine, sixty five,

433
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Speaker 4: just all throughout. Marcomira is the only other one. Ironically enough,

434
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Speaker 4: Jack also holds the record for progressive scores better going

435
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 4: or worse, I should say worse. So he's done progressive

436
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: scores worse, gone wire to wire, getting worse every day,

437
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: and also done progressive scores better every day to win

438
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: it with only our omera. It had been two years

439
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 4: since his last tour win, and he's forty six, as

440
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: you as you noted, previous winner of that of the

441
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: oldest age all This previous winner was forty two Gary Player.

442
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: Anything Jack, high level you want to get into here.

443
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: We had heard so much about this that story is

444
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: pretty well told. You've read in the papers that you know,

445
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: he's not really a golfer anymore. He couldn't do it.

446
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: That was pretty much the narrative coming in.

447
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 6: One thing that I always just think about is like

449
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 6: he leudes us to this. The very end of the

450
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 6: thing was like, you know, my interests are kind of

451
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Speaker 6: more in business now, and I'm I'm going to show

452
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 6: you his business like stuff was kind of a mess.

453
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Speaker 3: Like he he.

454
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Speaker 6: Had made some bad investments, Like he was always kind

455
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 6: of a little bit jealous of Arnie's like golden touch

456
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: with business stuff and tried to keep like investing in

457
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 6: various things. And that kind of has continued, like all

458
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 6: throughout the next forty years of him making some not

459
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 6: great investments or questionable business decisions. And it just so

460
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: like there was a lot of weight to that of like,

461
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 6: oh Jack, like you know, it needs to play well again,

462
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 6: because like his he's kind of blown through some of

463
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 6: his money and he's not quite figuring this shit out

464
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 6: the way that Arnie always did.

465
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he he in the in Butler Cabiny lids to like,

466
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 4: I like doing this off the course stuff. You know,

467
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: golf hasn't been my own focus. I like it but

468
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: it seems like it was a distraction because of bad

469
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 4: business and take you know, the business is going poorly.

470
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Speaker 4: It was sort of the read between the lines, there

471
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Speaker 4: go ahead.

472
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Speaker 5: I think something I took away and.

473
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Speaker 2: You know, big picture, I'm sure we'll talk about the telecast,

474
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: but like the you know, you don't see every shot,

475
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: but like one of the things I took away is

476
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: like this is like the greatest back nine ever at Augusta.

477
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: But from a sense, like you know, this is the

478
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: thing that makes Augusta so cool. It's like he didn't

479
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: do anything extraordinary and away, like he kind of just

480
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: he took what, you know, the shot on sixteen to

481
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: me was like the shot that was the best shot,

482
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: but in terms of like he kind of just took

483
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Speaker 2: what the golf course gave him.

484
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: He made some.

485
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 4: Putts, made some putts, rolled them in, but.

486
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: Like the this is that that's the beauty of Augusta

487
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: is like this score is out there. It's really hard

488
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: to tactically avoid the mistakes at Augusta. But if you

489
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: watched this round, you're kind of like I kind of

490
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I watched this years ago, but

491
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: I had forgotten really like what propelled this round, and

492
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: I kept watching being like wait, like when's he gonna

493
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: make it move?

494
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 5: When's he gonna make this move?

495
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: And then it's just like, oh, like he's there because

496
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: like you know, he doesn't appear on the first page

497
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: of the leader board forever. But it kind of like

498
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: cemented home to me the idea of like you don't

499
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: have to be perfect out there, like it is just

500
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: sitting out there for you if you can, just if

501
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: your putter gets hot, or if you hit some really

502
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: great shots. And what's more that you know, the big

503
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: thing the more, the thing that kind of prohibits you

504
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: is yourself destructing, and we saw a lot of that too.

505
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 4: I think, like you talk about that, like he rolled

506
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: into big putts. I think there was no like the

507
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: best birdie watching this, I think was Norman at seventeen,

508
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: which also got a yes, sir, I mean it. He

509
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: did the andy ball, hit it onto the seventh green

510
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: and like awful tug and somehow punched it through up

511
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: onto the front of the green and made a birdie

512
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: got his own big yes sir. I think that's the

513
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: best birdie of this entire watch, or at least the

514
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: last hour and a half. It felt like it the

515
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: most miraculous birdie.

516
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Speaker 2: I wrote this down, like the shot you know, this

517
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: is the thing is like it gets you said this

518
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: at the top, winds get reduced to like one moment,

519
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: like the eighty six Masters that reduced to the punt

520
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: on seventeen. Really, sometimes they back up to the shot

521
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: into seventeen, and if you don't win, it just gets

522
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: lost to history. Sure, Norman seventeenth whole insanity. Shot he

523
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: hit into the green was so good. It's like one

524
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: of the best shots I've ever seen in my life.

525
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 3: Well you'll see it.

526
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 6: You'll see a little write up that Joseph and I did.

527
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 6: We're coming out next week for best Shots and Master's History.

528
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Speaker 3: But totally agree.

529
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Speaker 6: I will say, you know, we said, like the shot

530
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: in sixteen, shot in seventeen. Let's just be clear, though

531
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Speaker 6: we don't have any footage of the shot into nine,

532
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 6: the shot into ten, or the shot into eleven. Like

533
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 6: the fact that he made a birdie on eleven is

534
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 6: kind of bonker and we don't know, it doesn't exist.

535
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: Like he's in the tournament at this point, like he's

536
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 6: doing well enough to where they're paying attention to him.

537
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 6: But Cebia still at this point is kind of figuring

538
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: out how to cover a tournament with five six different

539
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 6: people in here.

540
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: If this were broadcast today like this, I.

541
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Speaker 6: Think people would lose their mind because of all that

542
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 6: we don't get to see that we just sort of

543
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 6: take for granted. I mean some of the literally like

544
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 6: you know big Like I'll just say this now, like

545
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 6: there is no footage of Tom Kite and Sebby by Steros.

546
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: On top chipping in on top.

547
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Of each other on eight. It just doesn't exist.

548
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: They're like, we just heard word the top Titan semi

549
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: five snus both eagles eight's like Sebby.

550
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 6: Takes the lead in the Masters with a chip in

551
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: and we don't have footage of it that ibout it

552
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 6: has changed.

553
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: My favorite thing is that twenty twenty two to fifteen

554
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: of this video, Sebby appears on a leaderboard saying he's

555
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: five under at twenty four forty four that's two minutes.

556
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: It says he's leading it eight under. He went from

557
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: five to eight in two minutes on the YouTube video.

558
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: And I think McCord, I think it's McCord that had

559
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: that eighth is am I Ron there it sounds like him,

560
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: he said with the best. Not a lots happened here.

561
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: Sevy hold the wedge from twenty five yards and Kite

562
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: hold one from one hundred yards. Not much going on here,

563
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: that's all. And nobody saw it. First time we see

564
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: Jack is at the ninth Green, just putting without commentary.

565
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: Musburg goes, let's go to ninth Green. Jack rolls in

566
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: a putt, and no one says anything, and then they

567
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: just go to like Ben Wright talking about someone hitting

568
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: at Norman hitting on seven. Nobody says that that's the

569
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: first time you ever see Jack is just that putting it,

570
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: rolling in a putt at nine. First actual t shot

571
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Speaker 4: is twelve. His first approach shot is thirteen, which, by

572
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: the way, is the first time you ever see thirteen.

573
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: For the whole day, it's Jack hitting out thirteen. Ben

574
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: Torre's like, all right, let's go to thirteen. This is

575
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: the first time you've seen this. Today. It's like the

576
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: greatest par five in the world. It's incredible, different, different world.

577
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: This is not a critique of what they were doing

578
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: forty years ago. It's years ago.

579
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 5: While we're here.

580
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: I have to say there are some things that would

581
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: drive the modern golf viewer insane. But there are also

582
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: some facets to this telecast that I loved, and I'm like,

583
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: how did I knew it? Like they're like, you watched

584
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: this thing, and you in a way, like my general

585
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: takeaway is like, has have golf telecasts gotten worse?

586
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 4: I think that you being overly romantic about this broadcast

587
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: and I understand what was better and what appealed to

588
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: you as being better than current, But it was probably

589
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: great for its time. People lose their mind if this

590
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: is what they dropped in or left today.

591
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: I think, like the general things, there was more more

592
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: a little bit more storytelling than the modern telecast.

593
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: There was more time given to actions, which.

594
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if we want to get

595
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: to like my favorite moment of the telecast of the

596
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: whole thing. But one of the things that I loved

597
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: was the intro, the table setting of each hole, the

598
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: back line where they go to the guy. You know,

599
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: they run through everybody on their hole because at that

600
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: time they had a different person for every single hole on.

601
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Speaker 4: The back line. The details there, Bob Murphy, Yeah you

602
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: want the names or not? Yeah, Bob Murphy, it's great.

603
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: This is what they used to do so, but they

604
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: go through, and they go through, this is where the

605
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: whole location is. Yeah, this is how the holes played

606
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: this week, you know, scoring average like and this is

607
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: what to expect today.

608
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: And it introduces each of these voices if you go

609
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: through the voices.

610
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: But it was such a wonderful way to to interject

611
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: the course into and give viewers like a hey, this

612
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: is what's coming up.

613
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: And they did it in like three minutes time.

614
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. They opened Bob Murphy on ten, Steve Melnick, you know,

615
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: the r en Amateur on ten, eleven and twelve, Ken

616
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: Ventury as we mentioned on thirteen, four hundred and sixty

617
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: five yard thirteenth Pole in nineteen eighty six, Gary McCord fourteen,

618
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: Ben Wright fifteen, who became sort of the star of

619
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: the show. Nance sixteen, Vern seventeen. They just go one.

620
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: This is Nance's first ever Masters.

621
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: At sixteen six years old. So I think that may

622
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: be right.

623
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, Vern seventeen, as we know,

624
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: Pat summerl and eighteen with Ventury kind of coming back

625
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: and providing more of the golf commentary. It's kind of cool.

626
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: They go from one to the next and they talk

627
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: about their whole. They do not do that. It's much

628
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: more consolidated with fewer voices now.

629
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Speaker 6: Kind of it's fun, Like I kept thinking about that,

630
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 6: like that, would the Masters be better without like Nance

631
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 6: and Trevor, like being the overarching or Nens and Faldo,

632
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 6: like if eg hole had its own individual voice. I

633
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 6: don't know, Like I like Dance obviously like Trevor, but

634
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: it is kind of fun that they had, Like the

635
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 6: character of.

636
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: The whole comes through without each announcer.

637
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: I loved Ben Wright though he's the a couple so much.

638
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: Ben Wright exchanges that I'd like to read in my

639
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: best Ben, Well, we'll.

640
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: Get that, so Musburger and Weiscoffer in the cabin. But

641
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: you're right, there is no like predominant voice. They set

642
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: up a few things, they come in out of break,

643
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: but they're not like the they're not the conductor in

644
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: the way there that it is now and it's just

645
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: sort of like, all right, the action's all on fifteen

646
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: for this forty five minutes. It's just basically Ben Wright's broadcast,

647
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: you know, with with occasionally sprinkle an a and go

648
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: back to Venturi at thirteen, and you'll like occasionally go

649
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: back to the cabin for Musburger and that's it the opening.

650
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 4: I guess we can go linear here what we talked

651
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: about Jack, I just want to mention, like Norman, there's

652
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: a real this was what I forgot, Okay, I was young.

653
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: There's like a Rory twenty five element to his round.

654
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's synonymous to like, oh my god,

655
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: this is the greatest stretch of golf I've ever seen before,

656
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: birdies in a row with fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen. There

657
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: is like, this guy is this This guy is brutal,

658
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: like he's thrown it away, like just the roller coaster

659
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: of tension. There was a little bit of that that

660
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: we saw last year. I I when he made the

661
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: double at ten, I was like, oh, he's off the

662
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: broadcast right Like when he made I was like, that's it.

663
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: And I know he literally has a putt for the

664
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: playoff down to the wire, makeuple putt. It's crazy. The

665
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 4: roller coaster. There was a Rory element. Would you agree

666
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: with that, Andy, or you know, obviously different outcomes and stuff.

667
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: This kind of goes to a bigger, bigger thing for me,

668
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: a bigger theme of the telecast there's absolutely like the Seesaw.

669
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: I just love the variability of the sport of golf

670
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: in this era. I think I watching this, I saw

671
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: some of like the greatest shots that I've seen on

672
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: holes in a while, Like you know this, I think

673
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: this like ties to like it made me kind of

674
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: hate like that everybody's figured out this like modern strategy

675
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: of aiming away from flags because like on eleven, you

676
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: can't tell me that tom Kite did not just take

677
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: full like right at the stick and it was like

678
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: I want when it landed, I was like, oh my god, Like.

679
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: That's one of the best shots I've ever seen on eleven.

680
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 6: The two shots that tom Kite hits, like into eleven

681
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 6: and into eighteen are as good as any shot that

682
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: you will see like in the Masters any year.

683
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they are just ballsy at the pin shots.

684
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: And the shot on eleven, I was like, God, I

685
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: haven't seen a ball just flagged to that back left

686
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: pin in so long.

687
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: It feels like just so long.

688
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Everybody just dumps it right and it's like, oh my god,

689
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: this guy just flagged it. But then the variability aspect

690
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: of this and I think a lot of it, Like

691
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be, you know, bagging out equipment,

692
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: but I think so much of this is equipment. Some

693
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: of the worst shots I've ever seen, like ever seen.

694
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: I had a list many, like seventy shot into fifteen

695
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: which ruined his chance to win, was horrendous. Corey Pavin

696
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: into sixteen was just awful and.

697
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: The guy could have won.

698
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Norman in eighteen.

699
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: Norman into eighteen.

700
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: There, but like there's like a reason for that, is

701
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: like Corey Paven or I mean not Corey Pavin. Tom

702
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: Kite on ten was hitting a four iron.

703
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: I think I wrote that it was a four iron.

704
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 5: Four iron into ten.

705
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are hitting six irons into six, Like

706
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: it's just like a completely different Like they're talking about

707
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: sixteen being a mid iron.

708
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 5: I think got twelve they said it was a mid iron.

709
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah I had that, Yeah, And it's just a.

710
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: Completely different sport.

711
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: But there was so much more variability. The shots in

712
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: the moments still great, like so many great shots, Like

713
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how many great shots that were into fifteen,

714
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: like over and over and over.

715
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: Again in this telecast.

716
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: But then you also get these like god awful shots

717
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: which made the product like just the golf way more interesting.

718
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like anybody who's anti rollback, anti the

719
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: sport for the professionals being challenging, should watch this telecast

720
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: and be like, wait, I could watch Greg Norman just

721
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: snaff hooked two shots in a row on the tenth hole,

722
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: like into the trees, and he could be leading the tournament.

723
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: Like it kind of goes to the Norman thing, like

724
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: that Norman round had some of the most miraculous shots

725
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, like the seventeenth and some of the

726
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: worst shots I've ever seen.

727
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think too.

728
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 6: You you just see like what an incredible like athlete

729
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 6: Greig Norman was. To see the sounds of the ball

730
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 6: coming off of his driver is awesome. It's so cool

731
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 6: to see him just like take those big high hands

732
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 6: and just absolutely you know, every shot sounds so pure

733
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 6: because they had to freaking hit it pure then or

734
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 6: it was gonna be a like an ugly little you know,

735
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 6: smother hook.

736
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a unit too. That was like I'm just like, well,

737
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: I was like, physically imposing.

738
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: The sound is something I made know of that earlier.

739
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: I think it was Nick Price or Nicky Price who's

740
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: playing in the final group with he had a three

741
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: wood on seven and it made just this like erotic sound.

742
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: It was like incredible, and you just get a lot

743
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 4: more of that throughout the broadcast. All right, yeah, we

744
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: just had to call out Norman. I just did not

745
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: remember the details of just how roller if it's not Nicholas,

746
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: and it's not Nicholas six jackets at forty six. Very

747
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: few things were not going to make Norman story a

748
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: story one the way it ended, the way the Sunday went,

749
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: like absolutely in a modern era he would have been

750
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: the biggest story coming out of that. It's just you

751
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: had the greatest master champion when he was presumed over

752
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: the hill. Like in a lot of ways, Norman was

753
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: sort of The Sunday and that eighteenth Pole are sort

754
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: of I don't know, carpeted, blanketed over thanks to Jack,

755
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 4: thanks to the being reduced to yes, sir, and Jack's

756
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: charge because this was a pretty incomprehensible round from Norman.

757
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: All right, let's go ahead, keV, you're gonna jump in there.

758
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 6: I'll just say it's like like Greg Norman's entire career

759
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 6: in miniature, like you start with.

760
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: The lead, you throw it away.

761
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 6: You have the most unbelievable run you could ever imagine,

762
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 6: like four birdies in a row, and then you hit

763
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 6: a great drive on eighteen and then you completely hit

764
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 6: it so far into the crowd that I've never seen

765
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 6: a ball like up there in the sense, and you

766
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 6: have a putt still to die and you miss it

767
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: like that's Greg Norman. It's just like the the agony

768
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 6: and ecstasy of all of it real quick.

769
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: We'd be remiss to not point out Norman had a

770
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: threewood off the tee.

771
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: Did he did?

772
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: Did you write down what club he was hitting in?

773
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: The longest player in the sport at this time, maybe

774
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: not the longest, but one of the longest players in

775
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: the sport at this time. On the eighteenth hole, Augusta

776
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: hit a perfect t shot with what he wanted to

777
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: do the three wood. Obviously that laid him back a

778
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: little bit, but he is hitting a four iron into

779
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: the green, and obviously when you're hitting a four iron,

780
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: shit can go wrong.

781
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 5: Rory had like one hundred yards in last year.

782
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: It just it's fun to watch the flight. You can't

783
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 6: see it all that great of like the drives whatever,

784
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: but it's like, you know, a low like cut that

785
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 6: the that was like part of how the ball was

786
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: launched back in the day, right, Like you didn't just

787
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 6: freaking sky it into the air and let it carry

788
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 6: three fifteen twenty, like you had to hit it two

789
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 6: fifty and then get thirty yards of roll out of it.

790
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: And that was just like kind of a it's fun

791
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: to see that when you look back at it.

792
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, a four iron it is. We'll get to it.

793
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: It's not the biggest house on the Van Develt block,

794
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: but it certainly has a home on the Van Develt

795
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: block and belongs there.

796
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if it I took more offense to

797
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: this putt than I took to the four iron bought.

798
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: That's you know, six inches on the high side. Yeah,

799
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: not great.

800
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 5: But you can't like takeaway was he doing a four iron?

801
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't hit it on the ted t. You

802
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: can't like all you got just bum one up to

803
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: the front of the green.

804
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: It wasn't that far the camera and like where the

805
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: camera was looking in the in the patron gallery was

806
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: was the issue.

807
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: It made it look way worse than it was.

808
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: Any Any pro could hit a four if I dropped

809
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: the pro two hundred yards going up that hill, which

810
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: would be a foe iron.

811
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 5: There'd be a bucket of balls over there on the right.

812
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 6: Okay, now granted it hits the people, so it would

813
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 6: have rolled another twenty five yards right of that.

814
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 4: What ends up fifteen minutes. They were hot and deep

815
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: where he hit. It took fifteen minutes to move. All

816
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: these people of an advanced age are kind of shuffle

817
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: in their feet. It takes forever to clear out the space.

818
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: On the I'm just say it's in the realm of

819
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: possibilities if you're hitting a four iron into the green.

820
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: Sure, I understand that said.

821
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys did any of your

822
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 6: homework and getting some of the assets here, but I

823
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 6: think we have some some visual aids here to help

824
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 6: us tell some of the story.

825
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I took screenshots and didn't sound the on the

826
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: pj's what I did. Well, then just operation Kevin.

827
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 6: You can still send a people. I just want to

828
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 6: start out page. Hopefully you can load some of my

829
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 6: first ones.

830
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 8: Uh.

831
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: I would really would like to bring back the era

832
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: of where adult men could wear glasses and still be

833
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: sort of cool.

834
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: I would just like to take you through this. This

835
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: is Tom Kite.

836
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: Earlier wearing glasses, right.

837
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 6: I know this is well, this is why we need

838
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 6: to make sure that glasses are cool again. My father

839
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 6: wore a pair of glasses that are just like Verne

840
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 6: lundquists in this. We can go to the next frame.

841
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 6: Here we have Ken Green here. These are these are

842
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 6: all from this era of this tournament. Next we have

843
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 6: Bob Murphy here, just an incredible transition lenses.

844
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: And then Vern here is great, and then uh.

845
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 6: Tommy Nakajima here is to finish the clothes these are.

846
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 6: It's an incredible era for just like you know, if

847
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 6: you didn't have contact. I mean, a running theme throughout

848
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: this entire thing is that Jack can't see You're gonna

849
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 6: have such terrible vision that he can't know where the

850
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 6: ball is. And obviously Jack was probably too vain to

851
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: wear glasses like this, but I want to just, you know,

852
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 6: give a shout out to Tom Kite. Didn't want any

853
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: part of that. He wanted to be able to see

854
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 6: the ball where it was. I whatevery. I don't know

855
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 6: if you fell about it this way, but when I

856
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 6: tried to golf in glasses, it completely makes me like crazy.

857
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 6: I just see the frame out of the corner of

858
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 6: my eye, and I cannot make contact with ball and

859
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 6: he's which to me is tough.

860
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: The one time I've been forced to play.

861
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: So I got I had an eye infection in my

862
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: mid twenties and I got diagnosed with it basically like

863
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: two days before a golf tournament that I was playing in,

864
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: and it was my first round in glasses, and since

865
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: like I was a kid, and it was funny. I

866
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: actually remember I played with. I was playing with Roger Steele.

867
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: This was pre This was pre both of our our

868
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: forays into golf.

869
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Pre influencers. That's the influence origin story.

870
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: There were a couple of things going on with me

871
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: that day as I was trying to figure out where

872
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: I struggled with the golf was was like thirty to

873
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: fifty yards. I had no depth perception with the glass glasses.

874
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: But anyways, you know, you know anybody that seen rogerhood

875
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: golf ball in the third hole, I was like, what

876
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: the fuck? I just how did this drive of this

877
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: guy's one hundred yards past me? But anyways, I ended

878
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: up shooting going out in forty four. I was struggled.

879
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: I struggled with the glasses. I came home in thirty two,

880
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: which which qualified me luckily, thankfully, But the h the

881
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: glasses were real problem.

882
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: Well, it was in.

883
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: I think if you played it with them all the time,

884
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: you get used to it.

885
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: Though for sure Tom Kite never went away from it

886
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: as far as I know, right, I mean, did you

887
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: play Champs Tour with with glasses?

888
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: Maybe?

889
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: Well about the top tight a set?

890
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

891
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

892
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: I had a question for you, guys, what do you

893
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: think Tom Kite and Sevy talked about all day?

894
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: It's a little different dynamic. Well, I there's a lot

895
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: of that going on out there. Watson was with is

896
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: with Nakajima. Do I have that right? I mean, that's

897
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 4: an odd pairing. Kite and Sevvy seemed like from two

898
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: different cloths, for sure.

899
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: They seem like the two most polar opposite, polar opposite

900
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: personalities in this tournament.

901
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, glasses were big. Visors were big. Everybody's wearing a visor.

903
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: A lot of hats, have a lot of hats.

904
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: Did you notice that Langer takes the visor off and

905
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 6: on at various points in the day like some like

906
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 6: a true actually using the visor for some purposes as

907
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 6: opposed to like an activation. Sometimes he's wearing the visor,

908
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 6: sometimes he's not.

909
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

910
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean with the Tommy Fleetwood Blackstone hat, I think

911
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: it's just time to cancel uh hat sponsorships on tour.

912
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: Just get rid of it. Yeah, be so much better.

913
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: Well, roll up an email say this should be part

914
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: of this is how you grow the audience.

915
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 6: So I have one image that kind of ties together

916
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 6: a lot of these things we're talking about page if

917
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 6: you can bring next on up. This is of Jay

918
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 6: Haas and this is kind of emblematic of the kind

919
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 6: of shoulder turns that they took back then and the

920
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 6: way that swings were. Like he is completely up on

921
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: his uh you know, weight into the inside of his

922
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 6: right foot, but toe is like all that's touching the

923
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 6: ground and the visor here, and the the kind of

924
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 6: aqua I guess what would be the description of those pants,

925
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 6: like kind of teal pants.

926
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, blue, tealish blue.

927
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 6: But this is like, you know, Jay Hawston's up finishing

928
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 6: fifth or something.

929
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: This is how guys swung the club back in the day.

930
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: You can see it a lot with Nicholas, just like

931
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 6: the big leg drive, none of that sort of stable

932
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 6: kind of beautiful. You know what we think of like

933
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: Rory Adams Scott justin Rose's motion and I.

934
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: Just honestly it looks awesome.

935
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: The aesthetic of like watching guys have to kind of

936
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 6: really like get their weight back and then wail into

937
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 6: the ball is is freaking cool to see.

938
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: I mean with this, it was also it seemed like

939
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: a toasty day in Augusta and the fabrics, the fabrics, yes.

940
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: Up for a toasty day. I had a question for

941
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: p J. P J, did you watch this?

942
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 7: I watched parts of it, but once we just decided

943
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 7: that you three were going ahead, I did not commit

944
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 7: all three hours.

945
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: I had a question for you, as you know, was

946
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: it was Jay Hass a problem?

947
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 7: I mean, Jay Haas might have been a problem when

948
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 7: when we when we discussed potential twenty tens problems, there

949
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 7: were people that submitted Bill has As a problem. But

950
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 7: I said he was too good to be a problem.

951
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 7: As a former number one player in the world, Jay Haas,

952
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 7: I'd give you though.

953
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean Jay was everybody career of Bill. I mean,

954
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: he'll never.

955
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: Finished like Bill was ever contending in the Masters.

956
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 5: I'm just saying.

957
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: It was a listed player.

958
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 7: Jay has FedEx cups.

959
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: The film wasn't yeah, oh god, that's good.

960
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 5: But I wrote that down just for PJ. I wanted

961
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 5: to ask Jaws a problem.

962
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 6: One point go ahead. I was just say, at one

963
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: point Jay like this, we were talking about miss shots whatever.

964
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 6: At one point, Jay like hits it into sixteen like

965
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 6: it's an unbelievable shot in sixteen to four feet, and

966
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 6: we never get to see him miss the putt like

967
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 6: he likes a shot to essentially like try the lead

968
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 6: at the time, and it just later we come back

969
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 6: and yeah.

970
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: And Nance's like, you know, wow, we're wait.

971
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 6: I was Ben Crenshaw made his putt Portunately, Jay Haas

972
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 6: missed his.

973
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: You know what I think they didn't have the capability

974
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: of was to tape a shot and show it later later, yeah,

975
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: because did you notice it was I think it was

976
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: Norman was playing and they had to like hammer cut

977
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: to Jack putting out on eighteen and he barely got there.

978
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: He was like taking the like as soon as he

979
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: got there, he's seeing the pudding out to win the Masters.

980
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: Well, it's always like they're talking the announcers, they're talking

981
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 6: to each other about the end the camera at the

982
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 6: same time because you.

983
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: Hear a lot where Vert's like quickly now to fourteen.

984
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, it's there's some some sort of rudimentary

985
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: like broadcasts. It's rough. It was forty years ago. It's incredible,

986
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: incredible stuff. Let's start uh linearly a little bit. The

987
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: broadcast opens, Musburger leads us in. It's Musburger and Weisskopf

988
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: Show for the first like ten to fifteen minutes. In

989
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: the cabin, I thought wes Coff was great. I thought

990
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: he was pretty crop well. That was where I had.

991
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: It's like helicopter going down Jakie helicopter footage going down

992
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: Magolia Lane. I'm getting Vertico. I need drama, mean, and

993
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: there's just like bouncing down. It was probably like mind

994
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: blowing at the time that they had this aerial footage.

995
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: But uh he refers to it as the Augusta National

996
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: Home of the Masters. It's Golf's greatest stage, as it

997
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 4: was called. I mean, this is eighty six, I don't know,

998
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 4: masters pretty firmly entrenched. But he said a tradition unlike

999
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 4: any other. So we have that tagline already getting used,

1000
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: and said the Green Jacket the most prestigious prize in

1001
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: all of golf, which I don't know. Was that the

1002
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: case in eighty six already I guess, so I guess.

1003
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying it was like you know, yesterday,

1004
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 4: but the US Open was prominent. It was already by

1005
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: CBS standards, most prestigious prize and all of golf. Everything

1006
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: is just much more minimalist. There are like twelve umbrella tables.

1007
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: You know they do the overhead footage. Now there's probably

1008
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: you know, thirty plus or something like that. So we

1009
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: lead into that. Weiscoff was good in the cab and

1010
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, they've got I like how they

1011
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: go through the history of winners. They've got Jimmy de

1012
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: Merritt looking like a news newsy, like in a newsboy cap.

1013
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: They've got you know, Arnold and everybody white T shirt.

1014
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: It's just like a great montage of all the all

1015
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: the former winners. Then you have Weiscoff talking about this

1016
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: is an incredible course. No rough here, but you need

1017
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: strategy off the tee. So it's unlike all the other

1018
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: majors because you're used to just rough apparently, you know,

1019
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: this is the mid eighties of the US Open. You're

1020
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 4: used to rough at the PGA. This is unlike the

1021
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: other majors. No, rough the great thing. You know, early

1022
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: on we get Nick Price's left of six talks about

1023
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: the great thing about Augusta as you can do three

1024
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: things from off of every green just about as he's

1025
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: gonna bump and run and he's gonna put it, he's

1026
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: gonna go up in the air. So Wiscoff I thought

1027
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 4: was pretty good throughout the broadcast. And of course has

1028
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: that great history with Jack being from Ohio, Ohio state kid,

1029
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 4: and you know snake bitten a little bit by Jack

1030
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 4: certainly over the years in the shadow. So anything else

1031
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 4: from early on, Kevin we talked about the missed eagles.

1032
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: You know, we don't see Jack until the ninth we do.

1033
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: The earliest Hollday show is the fifth I believe they

1034
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: show highlights from earlier holes, but we pick up the

1035
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: leaders on the fifth green. And Gary player for reasons

1036
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: that aren't entirely clear, is in the cabin with some

1037
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: early commentary before he abruptly has to catch his playing.

1038
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 4: Is just on camera, like roughly taking his mic off

1039
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: his lapel, like.

1040
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: I actually have a picture of this.

1041
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 6: Gary looks like he's on a late night talk show here,

1042
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 6: like he's like talking to Johnny Carson at this point, Well,

1043
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: you know, Johnny, this is where they ask him, you know, Gary,

1044
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 6: what do you how do you feel about all these

1045
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 6: foreigners playing?

1046
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Gary?

1047
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 3: Do you like seeing all these foreigners playing so well?

1048
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: And he says, you know, Bobby Jones always said is

1049
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: a worldly game. I you know, I'm a foreigner myself.

1050
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 6: It was a this theme will kind of run throughout

1051
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 6: the show of like foreigners slash invaders. Yeah, if you know,

1052
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 6: somehow it's an upfront to the masters that these foreigners

1053
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 6: are winning. You know, Stevey's already won twice at this point,

1054
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 6: the idea that like this is true of like, if

1055
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 6: you read like the classic Golf Digest story that Dan

1056
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 6: Jenkins wrote, this is the first year that Dan Jenkins

1057
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 6: was not writing for Sports Illustrated. You had gone to

1058
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 6: Golf Digest. Rick Riley is now writing for Sports Illustrated,

1059
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 6: and the lead to Jenkins's story is Jack. No one's

1060
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 6: killed more foreigners than Jack Nicholas except maybe Dwight D.

1061
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: Eisenhower.

1062
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, one of the.

1063
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 6: Great like holy shit Jenkins lines of all time. So

1064
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: that air was out there at this time.

1065
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, foreigners than Donald Trump, Like what if we wrote

1066
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: that the start of a newsletter like in twenty six.

1067
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 6: I'll just write there for the newsletter this year and

1068
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 6: see if anyone notices that it's a tribute, or see

1069
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 6: if we get canceled.

1070
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: So the first time foreigner comes up and this was

1071
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 4: just the lexicon was priced on the fifth green, and

1072
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: Player goes, I don't believe in the word. We're all

1073
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: just golferst is what he said. I don't believe in

1074
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: the word. And then someone again, I think Weiskoff or Musburger,

1075
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 4: asked him about the foreigners, and he says it just

1076
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: makes his blood boil as much Player when they referred that,

1077
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: like makes my blood boil, and Musburgers later like it's

1078
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: kind of us against the world when he starts talking

1079
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: about jacketing the mix because you have you know, Lanner

1080
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: and Price and Norman and Nakajima. It's just this foreigner

1081
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 4: is the worst.

1082
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 6: And this is I have a graphic of this speech

1083
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 6: if you go to my next photo here, like this

1084
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 6: is the graphic that they throw up on the screen

1085
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 6: for and more like as if like it's an alert

1086
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: for Americans, like you know, how how we need to

1087
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 6: fix the Masters here. In some ways, that is part

1088
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 6: of what plays into the like love that people have

1089
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 6: of this eighty six Masters is that it was like

1090
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 6: Nicholas was defending our turf as Americans against this foreign invasion,

1091
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 6: and it just percolates throughout all the coverage of it.

1092
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: For audio listeners, the graphics has foreign born players have

1093
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: won four of the last eight titles.

1094
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 6: And this is a Norman putting at this moment as

1095
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 6: if he might be the next one.

1096
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: You know what, low key, I love this old Master's

1097
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: logo that you don't see anymore. It's like a great scripting.

1098
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 6: I would absolutely buy a T shirt that had that

1099
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 6: as the logo on on the front.

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Oh.

1101
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: Sure, they'll be working on the cook of that up

1102
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty seven for you.

1103
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 5: Maybe it's in there in twenty twenty six.

1104
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: One thing that impressed me Sam Sneed swing at seventy

1105
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: five when they go they.

1106
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 5: Show the champ God he moved it.

1107
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, honorary starter.

1108
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 6: Yeah this is Brennan knows this because I've joked about

1109
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 6: them with a bunch of times. But later Sneed just

1110
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 6: drills a fan in the face during the ceremonial t

1111
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 6: shot in later years and it's the last year that

1112
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: Sneed is ever allowed to do this shot. He broke

1113
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 6: somebody's glasses and the chairman, I forget it is the

1114
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 6: time I have to look this up. This is like

1115
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 6: a New York Times story, I think, and like drills

1116
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 6: a guy in the face and the chairman goes, oh my.

1117
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: The quote.

1118
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: Also, and I think it was Gary Player, said sev

1119
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: He described Savvy as the golfer everyone feared.

1120
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, great quote there.

1121
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 6: He said he's got he's got strength in the finesse

1122
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: of a locksmith.

1123
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: A locksmith, locksmith, And then they asked him what does

1124
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: that mean, Tom, what does what locksmith mean? And weis

1125
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: Coffe I don't think was the one who said it

1126
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: at first, like oh, well, he's got good hands, good touch.

1127
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: He was known as like the power players, like the

1128
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 4: raw power is what they kept saying. And when Gary

1129
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: Player is leaving and ripping the microphone off his lapel,

1130
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: they ask him, like, who's gonna win, and he's like,

1131
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: if it's the best player, who will win, it's definitely

1132
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: by Asteros, because he is for sure the best player

1133
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: in the world. And that's what just the sort of

1134
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 4: the rough nature of like you know how everything's so

1135
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: polished now going to the cabin and there's Gary Player

1136
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 4: like ripping his microphone off and having to be bothered

1137
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 4: to still talk and then like whole lean it up,

1138
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 4: like it's an influencer. Mike, like what you go? I

1139
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: want to me keep talking. It's just all on camera.

1140
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: It's kind of incredible, but he exits the stage.

1141
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 2: I think this would be uh like it would lead

1142
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: Sports Center, this story going into Sunday the Masters, and

1143
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: it's just a footnote. The one guy in like the

1144
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: final four groups that's a complete no name, Donnie Hammond.

1145
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 5: He's in contention. He pukes all over himself on Sunday.

1146
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 5: Let's be fair.

1147
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: He just just first they show him he's hitting a

1148
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: miserable shot.

1149
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 5: Donnie Hammond, he's in contention.

1150
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: I think he was in the second or third to last,

1151
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: third to last group of the Masters, and as a kid,

1152
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: he was the gallery guard at the Masters growing up.

1153
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 5: It was his first Masters they ever played in.

1154
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: Like this is like the one of the most incredible

1155
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: stories and it's just like a footnote of the broadcast

1156
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: and I'd never heard of it.

1157
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: This would be like a seven to eight minute.

1158
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 6: Like Jeff Darlington, Tom Ranald the essay that the Masters

1159
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 6: put on where this everybody would be sharing it on

1160
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 6: social Oh my god, a gallery guard is playing in

1161
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 6: the Masters.

1162
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: Not only playing is the contending.

1163
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 5: Group on Sundays.

1164
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 4: He was in the second to last group with the

1165
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: defending champ, Bernhard Loner with the second defending champ, number

1166
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 4: one player in the world, in the second to last group.

1167
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: It was his first Masters. He was a gallery guard

1168
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: as a kid. I think he still holds the record

1169
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: for low round for a rookie. In the third round

1170
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: she got sixty seven on Saturday. It was easy on

1171
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: Saturday relatively, and then Sunday easy ish with no win.

1172
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 4: I thought it was a little soft. Not to be.

1173
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: It seems soft with the way the balls were landing

1174
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 4: on twelve thirteen, not a lot of around fifteen, honest

1175
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: to god, with about an hour of fifty. It felt

1176
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: like we saw the Rory shot of fifteen like five

1177
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: times over from different guys, just dropping balls within makeable distance.

1178
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: Notating there, but it just is. It's a little softish,

1179
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: no wind, and so Saturday we'll talk about Nick Price

1180
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: in a minute.

1181
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, I think people remember, I've had to

1182
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 6: know that Ben Crenshaw hit a three wood and it

1183
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 6: stopped on the green from two forty. Like, can you

1184
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 6: imagine trying to stop at three wood on the current

1185
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 6: fifteen green at Augusta.

1186
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

1187
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 6: I think you would probably have to hit it so

1188
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 6: low into the face, like a ten feet from the water,

1189
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 6: that it's somehow kicked up and got just completely lucky.

1190
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any scenario which you could take

1191
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 6: a hundred balls and not stop a threewood on the green.

1192
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: It's amazing how much the ball was stopping.

1193
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: On I found it was interesting though, like shots into nine,

1194
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: the ball just reacted a lot differently, like sometimes they

1195
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: bounce forward.

1196
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it's.

1197
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: Because of just like the angle that some shot, like

1198
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: the uphill shots in particular, to be like really released.

1199
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Speaker 5: And it's just because these guys were just not hitting

1200
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: just wedges.

1201
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's just crazy the way to

1202
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: watch something and be like wow, like well, I'm just

1203
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: used to I know how the ball's going to react

1204
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: when these guys hit it, and when the modern players

1205
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: hit it, when it hit the green. Yeah, with these guys,

1206
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was kind of like guesswork how

1207
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: the ball was going to react when it hit the green.

1208
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so go ahead.

1209
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 6: Just my memory of the Masters as a young person

1210
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 6: is just balls like sucking back. Like all the time,

1211
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 6: guys would hit it long of greens. You know, they're

1212
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 6: they're hitting it ten yards past the green knowing there's

1213
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 6: no rough back there and it's just gonna zip back.

1214
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 6: Like Greg Norman was like an incredible, like high spin player,

1215
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 6: and with those lot of balls, it just made it

1216
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 6: like kind of cool and interesting because like you never

1217
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 6: knew what the ball was going to do until it

1218
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 6: was stopped.

1219
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: It was going to react in cool ways.

1220
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: I think there you know, and this was said early

1221
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: in the telecast. It got my attention. It made me

1222
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: research further.

1223
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1224
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: We talked about the variability how these guys hit, I

1225
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: mean just amazing shots but also awful shots. Nick Price's tournament,

1226
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of like a supporting character and this

1227
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: never really a lead in it. Never never once where

1228
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: you like Nick Price is gonna win. Obviously you got

1229
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: to number one in the world in his career, but

1230
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: he made he birdied ten of the last fifteen holes

1231
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: on Saturday ten of the last fifteen holes.

1232
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: I was like, what flipped out on eighteen too?

1233
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 6: He opens with a seventy nine and in the same

1234
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 6: tournament shoots a sixty three that still holds up as

1235
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 6: the course record.

1236
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 5: And this was the year after Curtis Strange opened with.

1237
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: An eighty eight and was leading on the sixty fourth

1238
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: whole tea.

1239
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 5: The tenth te he was leading by what was it

1240
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 5: three or four?

1241
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: He walked across from nine grain to ten. Yeah, like

1242
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 4: up three.

1243
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: So this idea of variability was so much greater in

1244
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: the sport at this time. You can shoot seventy nine

1245
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: or eighty in the Masters and not your urnam's out.

1246
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 5: Over two years in a row, you.

1247
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: Have a guy playing in the final group that shot

1248
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: seventy nine or eighty on Thursday. To me is like

1249
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: it kind of just exemplifies like where what happened to

1250
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: the sport?

1251
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 4: Ten birdies lips out on eleven, lips out for eleven

1252
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: on eighteen sixty three is still the course record, and

1253
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 4: the Masters with Norman's opening round in ninety six still

1254
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 4: the course right. The only two now like a bunch

1255
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 4: of sixty threes. It was price in eighty six. Norman

1256
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: in ninety six, incredible stuff he puts out on eighteen.

1257
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 4: I thought this was great for Price Summer all who's

1258
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 4: just got the low slow cadence and he's in the

1259
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 4: tire Nick Price, who shot sixty three yesterday, but this

1260
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: is today, and he like puts out he's just in

1261
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: the way of Norman. He's like, that's but this is today,

1262
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: and it's just like get out away.

1263
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 6: I think this might have been like a CBS way

1264
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 6: of talking, because Nance does it later too. I think

1265
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 6: I figured out Nance's cadence, particularly in this era. Is

1266
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 6: there are no commas in Nance's sentence. It's a lot

1267
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 6: of short sentences with the pauses in between and I'll

1268
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 6: I'll do one later, like as he sets up the

1269
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 6: shot in sixteen.

1270
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: But it's kind of a really cool way of talking.

1271
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty it's a pretty good tone in cadence.

1272
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 4: Let's start going like kind of in order. You know,

1273
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 4: the first leader board we see there's no no mention

1274
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 4: of Jack, Like, there's no mention of Jack. There's two pages,

1275
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: there's nothing. It's all the stars we've talked about. There's

1276
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 4: occasional Donnie Hammond and there's a Jay Haas, but there's

1277
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 4: just no mention. Norman starts with sole possessional lead, gets

1278
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 4: it back with a birdie at six. He's saving pars

1279
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 4: out of his butt at you know, one and two

1280
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: and four incredible, like kind of a sign of things

1281
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 4: to come, with a complete airmail job. On four, you know,

1282
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: he's scrambling but has sole possession of lead.

1283
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: At six.

1284
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: There's just not a lot of Jack involved at all.

1285
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 4: There was really the only time he comes up is ironically,

1286
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 4: they go to Watson, Tom Watson and they interview him

1287
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: before the round. He comes up. He's like, you need

1288
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 4: the experience and I don't know if this was a

1289
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 4: shot at Norman shot at Price some of the young

1290
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: foreign intruders or whatever they want to call him. He said,

1291
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 4: you need the experience, Sevy Lotter, myself and Jack. He

1292
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: throws out Jack, who like was not considered a serious

1293
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 4: professional golfer at the time, but Watson threw him out

1294
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 4: and Jack people like that, you need the experience when

1295
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 4: you're under the gun coming down at the end of

1296
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: the Masters, And that's really like the first you hear

1297
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 4: about Nicholas is Watson threw him out there the broadcasters

1298
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 4: aren't talking about him. They are talking, Oh, there's Jackie's

1299
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 4: four back, but it's not mentioned Jet.

1300
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: There's forty five minutes into the three hours. Uh, they

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01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: still had yet to show a Nicholas full swing. Scrict,

1302
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: I've only seen putts, and the first full swing we

1303
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: got is on the twelfth hole.

1304
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 6: I have thirty eight minutes in the broadcast is when

1305
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 6: he makes the birdie on ten, where they're finally like, well,

1306
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 6: we won't count him out yet.

1307
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: It's on this back nine. The bear is stalking.

1308
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: That was Bob Murphy. He goes in the bear, the

1309
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: bear's stalking. He says, come on, jack smile. He tells

1310
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 4: him to smile. Bob is in like a fifty footer

1311
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 4: on ten, and he goes, we won't come him out

1312
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 4: of this back nine. And that's yeah, forty minutes in.

1313
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 4: So we'll start there, or we're far from starting, but

1314
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 4: we'll start in the kind of go through the back nine. Andy,

1315
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 4: what were we gonna say, jump in you want to see?

1316
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just gonna keep going.

1317
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: Obviously he buggies twelve, but we don't get to see

1318
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: the thirteenth tea shot and and like I looked to

1319
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: where he was, and it's like, how did how.

1320
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 5: Did he get there? I want to see that t

1321
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: shot because he's like.

1322
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: Literally two yards from the creek on a dead flat line,

1323
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't think you can get there anymore.

1324
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it's possible for a modern player to

1325
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: get to that position because you have to look at

1326
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: so much and now there are trees that overhang if

1327
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 2: you get that far left.

1328
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: One of the best things is he obviously rolls in

1329
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 4: the putt on nine to ten, and we see it

1330
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 4: eleven and we see those putts and he's walking to

1331
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 4: the twelfth tee. Like when he makes that ten, that's

1332
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 4: like a fifty foot that's the loudest word you hear

1333
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 4: in the broadcast to that point. You hear it down

1334
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: on fifteen when they're showing Crenshaw and somebody else they

1335
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 4: forget down on maybe has on fifteen so loud. But again,

1336
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 4: these are just like hard cuts to putts all of

1337
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 4: a sudden going in. Then they get to him. We

1338
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 4: finally makes one to eleven and he's walking off up

1339
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: that famous walk to the twelfth tee and Melneck I

1340
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 4: think is on the call. He goes it's Jack Nicholas,

1341
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: the Man of the Hour, and they haven't shown him

1342
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 4: at all. He's the man of the hour, Man the Hour.

1343
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 4: They've showed two three putts, the man of the Hour.

1344
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 4: It's been eleven years since he's done that fifth Green Jacket.

1345
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: Is that they haven't showed him. They don't. They said,

1346
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 4: that's it. They shows Bogie at twelve and then all

1347
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's hitting in thirteenth Fairway. It's a

1348
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 4: man of the hour and they haven't shown him. He

1349
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 4: made the turn four back. He made the turn. So

1350
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: it wasn't like it's as as things often are with

1351
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 4: the gusta. It moves, it happens real fast. It's moves slow.

1352
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 4: It's moving slow and then fast all of a sudden, right,

1353
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 4: and and that's where it felt like, all of a sudden,

1354
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: he was the Man of the Hour on the eleventh

1355
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 4: tee or the twelfth t and we've barely seen it

1356
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 4: and now it's like this all it's the greatest show

1357
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 4: ever within from you know, essentially twelve to seventeen, Hija.

1358
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 9: Can I interject some some literal breaking news into this podcast?

1359
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 9: Oh gosh, yeah, sure, Phil Michelson will not play the

1360
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 9: Masters what due to UH will be out for an

1361
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 9: extended period of time as my my family continues to

1362
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 9: navigate a personal.

1363
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 4: Health Matter's too bad? All right, well, I can't.

1364
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 3: Brendan can't write Phil this.

1365
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 4: I was going to say, DP, you're all find a way.

1366
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 4: Maybe we could still find a way. It's all right

1367
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 4: where we're.

1368
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: The bastards the first Masters without Phil and Tiger and.

1369
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 3: God thirty years.

1370
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: I was just say so Phil didn't play in twenty

1371
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 4: two because of that the ship Neck book it just

1372
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 4: came out. Did Tiger miss that? I think Tiger might

1373
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 4: have missed that because of the rash. Yeah, I think

1374
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 4: that's yeah, maybe right, that's wrong, Okay, anyway, could be wrong?

1375
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 5: All right?

1376
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: Can I read?

1377
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 6: I forgot when we were talking to invaders. I wanted

1378
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 6: to read this whole sequence. Uh that Ben Wright is

1379
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 6: the first person, Ben Right, who's English or maybe Scottish,

1380
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 6: I don't know, apologies if he's Scottish or whatever. But

1381
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 6: he says when that graphic was up there, he says,

1382
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 6: there you see how these invaders have been truded in

1383
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 6: the last eight years.

1384
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: And Wiskoff says, Ben, are you an invader? Says, yeah,

1385
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: you could say that, yeah, we like you, we like you.

1386
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 8: Ben Wescott's way of basically like kind of not giving

1387
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 8: a ship but kind of also like giving really insightful

1388
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 8: things is well, who knows, I mean, elf, I knew

1389
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 8: how he thought I would have won this tournament.

1390
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: Like this is a great delivery.

1391
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Where should we go tonight? All right,

1392
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 4: we've talked about he's playing with Lyle who's the Open champ?

1393
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: Go ahead.

1394
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 5: I think we're.

1395
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 2: Generally in the in the sphere of this happening, and

1396
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: to me, this is the standout moment outside of the

1397
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: wind and it it hits the theme you're talking about

1398
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: where this telecast like you just don't see anything.

1399
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, out.

1400
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: Of nowhere, Corey Pavin comes into our lives and he's

1401
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: described as red hot Corey Pavin. Red hot Corey Paven

1402
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: is on the sixteenth t. He's six under. He can win,

1403
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: so he's three back.

1404
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 4: He eagles fifteen. They showed the putt where eagle. I

1405
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: think they showed that right, the eagle in fifteen eagle.

1406
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Still this he disappears and while he's on the tee

1407
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: they're talking about, oh, he's really struggled with sixteen this week.

1408
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,919
Speaker 5: He's made a double in two bogies.

1409
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: He's four over on sixteen through three days.

1410
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: That's hard to do. I mean, come on, I.

1411
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 5: Mean it's one hundred and sixty yard part three.

1412
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 4: I will note while we're on this, Norman still holds

1413
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 4: the record. He's six under for the week on par threes,

1414
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: which is still the record, which is that's pretty stout

1415
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 4: for the part threes August, Yeah, which is six under,

1416
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: still the record. But but Corey Pavin was not based

1417
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: on sixteen alone.

1418
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: Go ahead, So so peven you know, you think about it,

1419
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: he's if he just plays it.

1420
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 5: Even you know, this sounded unreasonable. This is one of

1421
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 5: the easier holes on the golf.

1422
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 10: So even he's at ten under and he gets on

1423
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 10: this t on the tee and he is maybe the worst,

1424
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 10: one of the worst shots I've seen on sixteen, like

1425
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 10: lands in the middle of the lake is and what

1426
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 10: amazed me.

1427
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: So I think he made another double there if I

1428
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: had to guess. So he goes to six over on

1429
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: sixteen for the week. Yeah, and this is a top

1430
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: ten player in the world, and he sits down and

1431
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 2: the camera just state I loved the shot of like

1432
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: the hole the shot, but then also the camera on

1433
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: the guy's face for part three pretty great. Yeah, the

1434
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: picture they hang with him, they sit down on this, betch.

1435
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 6: The picture of picture is kind of incredible, Like, I

1436
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 6: don't know that we've actually advanced technology enough to where

1437
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 6: the picture of picture wouldn't be an incredible like thing

1438
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 6: to bring back and.

1439
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: Look at this.

1440
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: He's got his head down on a bench, there's a

1441
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: ball washer.

1442
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 5: And his hands are buried and they just hang on

1443
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 5: this all the way through forty seconds.

1444
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: But you know what, like, what do you think about it?

1445
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: If you're the what does he unight in the world

1446
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: at the time?

1447
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just.

1448
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 5: Know that you're about to play this this whole six.

1449
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 4: For the week.

1450
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 5: I think this would be your reaction.

1451
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Andy, the shot lands in the middle of

1452
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 4: the pond, I mean we're not talking. It hits the bank,

1453
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 4: it comes back.

1454
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: Just get at it long.

1455
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 7: If you look very closely here on the YouTube, you

1456
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 7: can see the ripples from where the ball lands. It's

1457
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 7: in the middle of nowhere.

1458
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 5: I mean it came up twenty yards short.

1459
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 6: What I love about the camera work here is that, yes,

1460
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 6: it's forty seconds but like they hang on him even

1461
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 6: as they're going to commercial break and they pull up

1462
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 6: the full leaderboard.

1463
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: I wish I had a screenshot of this, and they.

1464
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 6: Keep the picture in picture them above the little leaderboard,

1465
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 6: so you can see him suffer for just a little

1466
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 6: bit longer until the commercial.

1467
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: Fifty three seconds he and Mark the Cumber make eagles

1468
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 4: on fifteen, and then all of a sudden they're in

1469
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: the broadcast.

1470
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: This is the issue with the with the the constant

1471
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: show more shots, show more shots, show more shots, show

1472
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 2: more shots, Like I want less pre shot and more

1473
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: post shot because.

1474
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 3: I get this on a live broadcast. Andy, So what

1475
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: you're saying.

1476
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: This is like the the thing yeah that like you

1477
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: miss like this is competition. This is tournament golf in

1478
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: a nutshell. This is this guy who knows that he's

1479
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: played this whole like a twenty five handicap this week,

1480
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: and that's why he's not gonna win the Masters.

1481
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: He's I think it was one shot out of the

1482
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: lead at the after the eagle, right he and McCumber.

1483
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 4: Good stuff, good stuff.

1484
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: Another can we tell one more element?

1485
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 6: You brought it up here, Brendan the because I have

1486
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 6: a pick of this the interviewing players before the round

1487
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 6: to talk about the round to come is kind of

1488
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 6: a cool thing. Like you mentioned the Watson one they

1489
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 6: did it, and Greg Norman one here I have a

1490
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 6: picture of Like what a handsome motherfucker he was back

1491
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 6: like this, absolutely like vibing and just like in such

1492
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 6: a good mood, like, hey, you know like some masters

1493
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 6: that you know, this this tournament hadn't really made him

1494
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 6: suffer that much yet. You know, he'd finished fourth once

1495
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 6: previously but wasn't really in contention, but this is the

1496
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 6: first time it will really hurt. And I just I

1497
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 6: kind of love getting the early insight before they go

1498
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 6: tee off, Like how how much would you have liked

1499
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 6: to see Like I think maybe did Bryson do one

1500
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,919
Speaker 6: of these? You know, Rory obviously did not interdeing interview

1501
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 6: before the round or whatever. But it's like you get

1502
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 6: a little bit of like an insight into how the

1503
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 6: golfers are thinking and feeling before they go out and

1504
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,520
Speaker 6: can't talk for five hours.

1505
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I don't think that is people will

1506
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: agree to do this stuff anymore.

1507
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 5: A funny anecdote.

1508
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to redact names just to you know, not

1509
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: to get in anybody in trouble here. But I you know,

1510
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: I was talking with a European tour player that played,

1511
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: you know, in this era, and he was telling me.

1512
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: He told me a story about I think it was

1513
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 2: is so Norman was dating a very very attractive person

1514
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: at the time, and he had played poorly and this

1515
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: woman was coming to meet him at this euro Tour

1516
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: event and Norman kind of had thrown like a little

1517
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: temper tantrum and left the tournament early before this woman

1518
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: that he was seeing arrived and she got there and

1519
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: and she was like where is he? And there everyone's like, oh,

1520
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: he left, you know. And she had traveled to this

1521
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: event and apparently she had turned turned in saw Sev

1522
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 2: and said, oh, he'll do and went off with Seve.

1523
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: Incredible, pretty good, good stuff that is not in the

1524
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 4: broadcast of the broadcast.

1525
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: That's just an anecdotal that jogged my memory when he said,

1526
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: it's an handsome mfor the uh that interview he talks

1527
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 2: about Norman before.

1528
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm longer than everybody. Like, if I can

1529
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 4: hit a three or four iron to fifteen, I'm gonna

1530
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: push on the gas and try to do it. Instead

1531
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 4: of hitting a one or a two iron.

1532
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 3: And one or two.

1533
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 6: I wrote that quote down to Brendon, like, all these

1534
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 6: guys are carrying two irons at this point because that

1535
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 6: is like the equivalent of a five wood or a

1536
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 6: you know, a hybrid or whatever.

1537
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: Which is that's where the volatility comes in. You have

1538
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: to hit a two iron sometimes.

1539
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 2: The shot of when Crenshaw hit that that three wood,

1540
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: the angle of the camera was so good because it

1541
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: showed how.

1542
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 5: Freaking dip deep the three wood was. Then just hitting

1543
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 5: like how deep the face was.

1544
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, that's timir fuel.

1545
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 6: You know what I'm thinking to any during that is

1546
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 6: like he doesn't have a track man to tell him

1547
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 6: that he knows that three would goes two hundred and

1548
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 6: thirty nine yards whatever.

1549
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: He just has to play that on feel like he

1550
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: has to trust.

1551
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 6: I've hitting the shot before I know it's gonna go,

1552
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 6: and it's well, yeah, this is how you swing a

1553
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 6: golf club.

1554
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1555
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: This is not meant to be a humble brag on

1556
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 2: multiple pieces here, but like when I played Augusta in

1557
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: the media thing, I played with persimmon and basically seventies

1558
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: blades and on fifteen. I pumped, I pummel the drive

1559
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: and I got into the spot and I.

1560
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,879
Speaker 5: Stood over a foe iron, a four iron butter knife.

1561
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 5: So this would have been what Norman was looking at,

1562
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 5: not what other guys were.

1563
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: And I was playing a solid core golf ball, so

1564
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: that's you know where, and I'm I'm standing over this

1565
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: ball and looking at that green with a fore iron,

1566
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, like I have

1567
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: to hit this so freaking good, like so good, Like

1568
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 2: it's a scary green to hit a wedge in two like,

1569
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: but hitting a three wood or a one iron or

1570
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: two like, no, I don't want anything to do. Like

1571
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: I kind of get how chip back laid up in

1572
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: a way, it is like a It's it's a proposition

1573
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: where you're like, okay, like if I don't hit this

1574
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: dead flush, it's going.

1575
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 5: To be a very bad result.

1576
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is like I don't know,

1577
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: it's something you watch this and it's like, uh, this

1578
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: is It's just not the same.

1579
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 5: It's not even close to the same game anymore.

1580
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 4: Rory obviously hit a seven iron, not the diminute. It's

1581
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 4: not diminishing his shot visa the eighty six shots. But

1582
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: that heat a seven iron last year.

1583
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 5: And they the t forty yards back.

1584
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy that just some of the irons

1585
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 4: these guys are hitting. Of course, you know.

1586
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: I heard yesterday that you know, certain companies don't believe

1587
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 2: that that distance is an issue.

1588
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 4: Speaking of equipment, Speaking of equipment, the twelve pole. Melnick's

1589
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 4: on the call is the first time where we get

1590
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 4: a chuckle. He's chuckling about the comical oversized blade putter

1591
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 4: that Jack and I got a screenshot at, Like it's

1592
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: comically large, this giant jumbo head of a blade putter.

1593
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 4: And we say, truth be no, and this is Melanick.

1594
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 4: Nicholas's vision is not as good as it used to be.

1595
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,520
Speaker 4: Jackie's helping him read the greens. He's got that oversized

1596
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 4: blade putter as Jackie reads the greens for him, and

1597
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: why Scotff will talk about it later. At sixteen, he's like,

1598
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 4: you know, jack can't see anymore. He doesn't even probably

1599
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 4: know the ball, you know, almost went in the hole

1600
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: and is sitting three feet from the hole. At sixteen.

1601
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 4: He all he says is, you know, be right, He

1602
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 4: says to Jackie, it is in the air. But he

1603
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 4: like Weiscov's like he can't see you can't see the

1604
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 4: green anymore. But I love the jumbo putter glimpse we

1605
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 4: get a yeah, well pretty.

1606
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 6: Good McGregor's ZT response. They sold three hundred three to

1607
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 6: four hundred thousand of these in the year after this masters.

1608
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 6: I always remember Rick Ratt described it as like the

1609
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 6: attachment to a vacuum cleaner.

1610
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 3: That was the size of it was.

1611
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: The amazing thing is like if a guy we see

1612
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: this over the history and it's probably becoming less and

1613
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: less prevalent. Remember when Zach Johnson won with a Seymour putter, how.

1614
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 5: That went like nuts too.

1615
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: It's like the eye alignment thing, like where the shaft

1616
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: covers the red dot, and like you know, Seyboar putters

1617
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: became this huge thing, you know, because of it. It's

1618
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 2: it's it's amazing how like somebody using something in a

1619
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: major could just completely change the trajectory of an otherwise

1620
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: piece of equipment that people would have been like, who

1621
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: would use that?

1622
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 6: VJ saying when he won the putter, the weird cutter, Yeah,

1623
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,480
Speaker 6: it never compromsed.

1624
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 5: Blackened great one.

1625
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 6: Designed by like a concert pianist who had no experience

1626
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 6: whatsoever in designing clubs, and it like the website melted

1627
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 6: down afterwards.

1628
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: It was like, it's like off set. So that's like

1629
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: the chavy you see me on the thing.

1630
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 6: The chef comes down and then the head of it

1631
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 6: is like behind the ball, so it like forces you

1632
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 6: to keep your hands forward, w whatever.

1633
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: It just it's wild.

1634
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 5: Was it was it David Thoms who used the yes putter.

1635
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 4: It was Tom's, but Days had a moment the yes putter.

1636
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 4: They had a putt. They had a moment for sure.

1637
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: It was a major moment to David Tom's The seven

1638
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: wood was like a big you know thing from the Toms.

1639
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 4: Win yep, okay. So he's the man of the hour,

1640
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 4: always seen her three putts. He Bogie's twelve. We talked

1641
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: about his chip, like you can't ship the dog his

1642
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: short game. He doesn't hit a good ship there and

1643
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 4: and misses the putt, save par saving putt. That's the

1644
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: only shot he'll drop.

1645
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 6: My favorite Nicholas humble brag is that he some people

1646
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 6: talk like that after his career was over, We're like, no,

1647
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 6: you won't really renound for your short game, and he

1648
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 6: was like, what you know, I didn't miss a lot

1649
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 6: of greens. So you know, if I had I miss

1650
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 6: a lot of greens, I would have practiced my short

1651
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 6: game more.

1652
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 3: I would have been better at it.

1653
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, ah, that's a good one. So he's he

1654
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 4: becomes the focus, I'd say at twelve. All right, of

1655
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 4: course they don't shows t shot at thirteen, shows approach

1656
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 4: shot at thirteen it sticks up like a great approach shot.

1657
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 4: I didn't write down the club. Was it like a

1658
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 4: six iron four iron somewhere in there? They weren't like

1659
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 4: having to hit lumber. Some of those guys were not.

1660
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 4: Like Watson hit one of the biggest drives of the

1661
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 4: day at thirteen, hitting like a mid iron in he

1662
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 4: hits a great shot, but it sticks compared to Sevey

1663
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 4: Lands different trajectory, runs right up to the hole that

1664
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 4: great like back right pin, and Sevey makes an eagle.

1665
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 4: But where's where's Jack has to grind for a two

1666
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: putt thirty? Yeah?

1667
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about Sevi's thing now?

1668
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 6: Because I eagle at thirteen, so I have a visual

1669
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 6: aid of this too awesome shot by Seve takes the slope,

1670
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 6: trickles down towards the pin and he does the big

1671
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 6: No No of essentially like at this point he's gonna

1672
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 6: make this eagle putt and have a three shot lead

1673
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 6: in the Masters, and he shakes hands with his brother

1674
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 6: as they're walking up thirteenth Fairway and then takes his

1675
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 6: hat off and waves it to the crowd. It's an

1676
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 6: incredible like celebration of like just like I got this shit,

1677
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 6: like we are we are cooking. And of course it

1678
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 6: goes very wrong later in a few minutes, but I

1679
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 6: just love the image of him shaking hands with them.

1680
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 6: I think it's Vicente is his brother as they kind

1681
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 6: of look at each other. He's said to be putting

1682
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 6: his arm around him and walking up the fairway.

1683
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 5: I just watching the whole thing.

1684
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: One of my takeaways I didn't write this down, was

1685
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 2: just like how much more expressive the players were with

1686
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: their caddies, and like, how much more like he after

1687
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Norman made Birdie on seventeen. You just see him like

1688
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 2: do this like big axail and he's just like, you know,

1689
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: he's like walking to the next tee like pumped up.

1690
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Like it's like you just don't you know, like these

1691
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: players learn to just be robots.

1692
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Jack's considered dry. He's like cackling

1693
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 4: walking off the sixteenth green as I think he realized

1694
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 4: it's the good fortune and how incredible this is that's happening.

1695
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: He's like cackling as he walks off sixteen. So real quick, yeah.

1696
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: On this so Seve bird eagles thirteen. So at this

1697
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: point Seve is nine under through thirteen and Jack is

1698
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: on fifteen t at five under.

1699
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 4: It's four back with four to play for him.

1700
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: Yes, also a quick note in here that I would

1701
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: be reversed.

1702
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 5: Payne Stewart makes an appearance around here.

1703
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 3: He did. Yeah, it was incredible.

1704
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: And they're like he's already missed two punts inside of

1705
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: two feet.

1706
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 5: Yes, hey, drive.

1707
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 3: By on Paine Stewart.

1708
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 5: And then like one are the three shots they show

1709
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 5: a Payte Stuart. He misses like a three footer that

1710
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 5: was on seventeen.

1711
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 4: I think it was. I think it was just like,

1712
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 4: honestly three feet, not more than three feet. It was

1713
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 4: ben right because we took we go to the toorally

1714
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 4: elegant pain Steward, but we were told he is already

1715
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 4: missed two butts inside of two feet. That's it, that's

1716
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 4: all the pain Stewart appears, and then he misses the

1717
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 4: three a.

1718
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 3: Measure for Do you guys know where pain Stewart finished

1719
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 3: in this tournament?

1720
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 6: No, he finished eighth, top ten and this is the

1721
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 6: one ten second thing we see of him was just

1722
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 6: yacking the butt.

1723
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 5: I mean he seemed to be in a really bad mood.

1724
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean right said he could have been measured

1725
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,480
Speaker 4: for a jacket had those gone in the two footers.

1726
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,480
Speaker 4: And then he misses another one at seventeen. This sartorial,

1727
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: sartorially elegant pain Stewart. So Seve makes eagle right now,

1728
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 4: they say it's Seve's masters to lose. When he's four

1729
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 4: up on Jack, two up on kite and cruising as

1730
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: we go. Jack's on the do we need anything to

1731
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: add about Jack? Thirteen? He makes the birdie the bear.

1732
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 4: The bear references are just NonStop prowl the old bear.

1733
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 4: There's life in the old bear. The bear is hunting again.

1734
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: Ben right, Ben Wright slight line after I think the

1735
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 2: whole thing here.

1736
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so far, so well, I'll set it up when

1737
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 6: when after he makes the eagle, Brandon can describe's masters

1738
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 6: will lose.

1739
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 4: I'll just say Norman is off the stage Norman, who

1740
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 4: ends up being like the final putt, the final.

1741
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 6: Ten on kind of an underrated thing, complete terrible drive,

1742
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 6: clatters around in the trees, hits it a terrible approach

1743
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 6: into ten with a with a fore iron uh and

1744
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 6: it has chips over the green into the bunker and

1745
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 6: then makes a mess of it makes double like literally

1746
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 6: that was kind of Norman's masters in some ways, although

1747
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 6: he obviously goes it gets them fire later.

1748
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 5: I mean the tenth hole that was a disaster.

1749
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, tugs it left in the trees, gets lucky, It

1750
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 4: bounces in the fairway, then tugs it left like the

1751
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: one place you cannot I mean, there's a lot of

1752
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 4: bad places to miss on ten, but going hard left

1753
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 4: off the green and doubles it. So you know, Norman's

1754
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: the main character, and then it's Sevy's the main car

1755
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: and then Jack like he's just sort of the old

1756
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,959
Speaker 4: lion and they're, you know whatever. He's making some birdies

1757
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: and needs some disaster. He's four down with four to play.

1758
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: Norman's off the stage. Nicholas is on fifteen. He has

1759
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 4: two hundred yards to the pin. They say he's never

1760
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 4: needed an eagle more. Is this part of your narration, Kevin,

1761
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: I don't want to cut it, he said, he's never

1762
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: need to.

1763
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: Do it afterwards. You do it this part, I'll do

1764
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: the aftermath.

1765
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 4: There have been three eagles in the last four players, Peven,

1766
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 4: Gary Cooch and Mark McCumber. He flies into the pin

1767
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 4: and it lands pretty soft. Uh, And they say, he's

1768
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 4: got a chance. He's got a chance. Is this part

1769
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 4: of your He's got a chance, He's got a very

1770
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: good chance. The old Bear.

1771
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I should have wrote down the whole thing, but

1772
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 6: I have the post thing. So he rolls the putt

1773
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 6: in and this is a little bit of a controversy here,

1774
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 6: as you're hearing in a second. So Ben Wright, he's

1775
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 6: got this lovely English voice. He says, yes, sir, the

1776
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 6: battle has joined. My goodness, there's life.

1777
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 3: In the Old Bear yet, magnificent stuff.

1778
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 6: And that information will percolate back to Semi Barstetus.

1779
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it was. And he goes to the

1780
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 4: fifteenth t where I will have to wait. That was

1781
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 4: what he said. So he did not invent.

1782
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, yes see like this is right. Who was

1783
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 6: kind of actually bitter about this for years that and

1784
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 6: Vern actually felt a little bit guilty about it. That

1785
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 6: he said he subconsciously heard it somewhere and that he

1786
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 6: used it, but it became kind of his iconic call

1787
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 6: instead of ben Wright's saying the first thing, yes sir.

1788
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 4: Wow. So we had a yes sir for the eagle

1789
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 4: on fifteen for Jack, Yes sir for the putt from

1790
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: Vern on seventeen, and yes sir for Vern when Norman

1791
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 4: makes his on seventeen. Those are the three for sure.

1792
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 4: Weisskough when he's on fifteen before he makes the eagles,

1793
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 4: like he's making good swings, he's just a little too

1794
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 4: far behind. That's what he says about Jack. This is

1795
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 4: a must make. At fifteen he makes it. It was

1796
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 4: like a whole like will it situation with Danny Willett,

1797
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 4: like he kind of he was just, oh, that's nice.

1798
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 4: He's making birdies. And that's just how the masters works, right.

1799
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 4: It's slow and then it's fast really quick. I'll say,

1800
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 4: I'll leave this to you, Kevin. But when Jack makes

1801
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 4: his eagle could have been later when somebody else made

1802
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 4: their eagle. He said, eagles are becoming as common. Did

1803
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 4: you write this as his house was at your household Sparrow?

1804
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,959
Speaker 4: The eagles are becoming as common as your household sparrow.

1805
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 4: I didn't understand that. Does everybody have a sparrow? Like,

1806
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 4: I don't understand what that means? It a bird cage?

1807
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 4: Is it outside?

1808
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 3: That was like a.

1809
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 6: Harry Potter situation where everyone's awarded an owl and you

1810
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 6: just have one around.

1811
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: The eagles are becoming as common as your household. All right,

1812
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 4: So that's fifteen. He birdied eagles fifteen. All of a sudden,

1813
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 4: he's four back, the two back at the time, but

1814
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: Sevy's still too clear kite ahead of them. All these

1815
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: guys are ahead of them, not all the kite kiten

1816
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 4: by stereos are ahead of them paving at the time,

1817
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 4: He's tied with for a second. All right, what do

1818
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 4: we have next? Sevy booms at three hundred yards of fifteen,

1819
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 4: and it's considered huge, like a huge.

1820
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 2: Just prime primo position, like effectively cannot screw this up,

1821
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Like you know, he got into where all of a

1822
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: sudden he doesn't have that one iron in. He got

1823
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: to where Norman like effectively thought his huge advantage was

1824
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah another thing, just random thing. No spectators behind sixteen

1825
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 2: t Did you notice that?

1826
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, matrons.

1827
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost it's like completely Uh. You can see

1828
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 6: the camera up there, Yeah, and.

1829
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 2: You can see a grand stand which I think was

1830
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 2: actually behind maybe fourteen t.

1831
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 4: There. You know, there are obviously giant crowds by galleries,

1832
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 4: I should say by the end at eighteen. One thing

1833
01:32:55,160 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 4: I noticed was it didn't seem too dense compared you know,

1834
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 4: they obviously let a lot more people in that like ten.

1835
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 4: When Norman's on ten, there's nobody there. You can just

1836
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 4: walk up and watch the final group with a Master.

1837
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: I can't do that now there's I don't think there's

1838
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: a grand stand. I was trying to find this right

1839
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 4: of fifteen green, like there is now left of seventeen Green.

1840
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 4: It looks like there's just a big like sort of

1841
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 4: viewing hill and not the grand stand that there is

1842
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 4: on seventeen. So certainly I don't want to say there's

1843
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 4: no It was dense by the end of the end,

1844
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 4: but it just seems fewer numbers spread out farther across

1845
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 4: the course.

1846
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 6: I will say, like one of the things that anyone

1847
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 6: who's ever been to this Masters, and they talk about

1848
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,839
Speaker 6: it later in the broadcast, is that like the roars

1849
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 6: were so loud.

1850
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 3: It was like being in a basketball game.

1851
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1852
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 6: People have said, like there's never ever been louder than

1853
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 6: it was than when Nicholas was making this back nine

1854
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 6: thirty run.

1855
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 4: You called it deafening. So seventy's three hundred yards in

1856
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 4: the faraway at fifteen. We'll get to jacket sixteen here

1857
01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 4: in a minute, a one position. We've talked about some

1858
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 4: of the bad shots. Paving into the middle of the

1859
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 4: pond at sixteen, I think is off the hook. When

1860
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 4: Sevey steps up to his approach shot at fifteen, just

1861
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 4: an immediate, immediate smother hook into like nowhere close middle

1862
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 4: of the pond. Uh, it's just an awful one of

1863
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 4: the great one of the great bad shots. I should say.

1864
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 4: If by by a Master's champion and would be three

1865
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 4: time champion, they say, oh, he's pulled it. He pull

1866
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 4: looked that that's destined for the water. There's some cheering.

1867
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it's like Mullinari putting in

1868
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 4: the water at twelve. Like there was like people in

1869
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 4: the background fifteen who put their hands up and there

1870
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 4: is cheering. There's a lot of CBS covering, like trying

1871
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 4: to provide cover for the crowd saying the ever courteous. Oh,

1872
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 4: they're so courteous, the ever courteous. They say that three

1873
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 4: times about a two minute span. There is some cheering

1874
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 4: when he pull hooks it that's destined for the waters.

1875
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 4: And what does he say? The foreign invasion is reeling

1876
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 4: under the bears attack?

1877
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 3: Then right, more an invasion is reeling under the bears attack.

1878
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 4: No good an awful drop kick or just an awful

1879
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 4: pull hook into the water. What impressed me about Sevy

1880
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 4: at fifteen was he decides where to drop it, like

1881
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 4: an under two minutes. Like he's at one moment, he's

1882
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 4: with two rules officials on the edge of the water.

1883
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: They're like, he could drop it at the edge of

1884
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 4: the water, he could walk back to put more spin

1885
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 4: on it, he could go to the drop zone. The

1886
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 4: dude makes his decision, ball down, hits the shot all

1887
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: in under two minutes. And I'm talking including the pacing

1888
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 4: it back all the way.

1889
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 6: It was kind of basically yes in modern day, Yeah.

1890
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 4: I timed it up. It was one minute forty seconds

1891
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 4: from the rules official approaching it at the water and

1892
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 4: then just like looking down, going back, walking it off,

1893
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 4: hitting the shot kind of incredible.

1894
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 3: So all of this is unfolding like so quickly. Right.

1895
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 6: This is right about the point when Norman is playing

1896
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 6: thirteen and he hits it long up above thirteen, and

1897
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 6: Venturi says, yeah, lookout, oh as the ball slides down

1898
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 6: the hill, I think he can feel the green coat

1899
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 6: slipping away.

1900
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 3: It's just like boom, boom boom.

1901
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 6: We're just bouncing back and forth between all these various traumas.

1902
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 4: That back left miss and he was talking. He kept

1903
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 4: tugging it left right. He did it at seventeen, did

1904
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 4: it twice at ten? Now does it at thirteen? Approach?

1905
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 4: I did make a birdie from back there, but yeah,

1906
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 4: it's usually dead back left thirteen.

1907
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 6: Raise your hand if you haven't played against Yeah.

1908
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 4: So Jack gets to sixteen and nance it's Nancy's moment.

1909
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 4: He's a kid first Masters. He goes if anyone has

1910
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 4: ever owned this hole? It could be Jack Nicholas, who

1911
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 4: goes through his history there Berdie's when he's won his

1912
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: it won his Masters.

1913
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I do it because I have.

1914
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 6: This is one of my favorite things in broadcast history.

1915
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 6: Please this is I'm gonna do my best dance here.

1916
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 6: Jack Nicholas knowing he must continue the charge. He has

1917
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 6: to figure that Belsaros will make at least birdie back

1918
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 6: at fifteen. If anyone as of her owned this hole,

1919
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 6: it would be Jack Nicholas. When he first won his

1920
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 6: green jacket back in nineteen sixty three, he did it

1921
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 6: with a birdie here at sixteen. And of course, who

1922
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 6: can forget nineteen seventy five, the forty foot putt. Tom Wiscoff,

1923
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 6: what's going through Jack's mind? He hasn't experienced this kind

1924
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 6: of streak in a long time. Weiscoff says, if I knew,

1925
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 6: I thought I would if I knew how he thought,

1926
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 6: I would have won this tournament, and they laughed together. No, seriously,

1927
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 6: he just gonna fire this right at the pin. He's

1928
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 6: gonna think, Jack, this is the time, right now, make

1929
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 6: this swing that you are capable of making. Stay down,

1930
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 6: accelerate through the ball, make a good off swing.

1931
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 3: Your destiny is right here.

1932
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 6: And what I love about it is west Cooff talks

1933
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 6: like this right up to the moment where Jack is

1934
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 6: about to hit the ball. I mean, we get like

1935
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 6: your destiny is right here, and it's two seconds before

1936
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 6: Jack takes a club back. After that, and then Nance

1937
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 6: just goes it's right at it, oh.

1938
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 3: My, And it's just like I love that sequence.

1939
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 6: That's one of my favorite subsequences in broadcast history because

1940
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 6: it just it builds to the moment it gives you

1941
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 6: the history, and then it lets it sort of speak

1942
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 6: for itself.

1943
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 4: He almost spins it back into the hole for an ace.

1944
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 4: It's that famous line which we're not privy to on

1945
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 4: the broadcast where you know, allegedly Jackie's caddy his son

1946
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 4: says be good and jack says it is and you

1947
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 4: can't see.

1948
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 3: Do you think that that actually happened?

1949
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to you said it, but

1950
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: I've thought it, like is this.

1951
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 6: Really study so many times in the years to see

1952
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 6: if you can hear Field Nicholas's lips like moving he

1953
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 6: bends down to get the tee, So in theory he

1954
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 6: could have said it there, but you can't really like.

1955
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 3: There's no evidence of it that Nicholas says that.

1956
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 6: Obviously we don't have Jackie. I mean, I don't think

1957
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 6: they would like make that up, so obviously it happened.

1958
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 6: But it's just like the conspiracy person in me is like,

1959
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 6: wait a minute, like why can't I see like Nicholas

1960
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 6: saying this to Jackie, like, oh, it is, like.

1961
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 4: What one thing that's a common theme throughout this broadcast

1962
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 4: is how audible the crowd is on the broadcast, because

1963
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I assume these guys I don't know actually are they

1964
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: in towers, like and their MIC's are picking. There's so

1965
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 4: much stuff you can hear from the crowd, Like sometimes

1966
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 4: it's just like you're hearing conversations that are just going

1967
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 4: on next to the eighteenth green. Well, when that ball

1968
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 4: is coming into sixteen, there's some guy who's like, oh,

1969
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 4: oh Jesus, like shouts it and it's almost like as

1970
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 4: loud as nance as the ball, Like it just adds

1971
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 4: to the drama of this. He's gonna make an ace.

1972
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 6: Maybe this is where you got that wisecoff line of oh,

1973
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 6: you'd mentioned the legitate earlier, and.

1974
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize jack doesn't see that.

1975
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 6: Well, it probably has no idea how close up ball is.

1976
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 4: So then Nakajima, who's with Sevy on fifteen, like cannot

1977
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 4: play for like minutes because sixteen you obviously it's raining

1978
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 4: by the gallery and everybody's going nuts the whole walk

1979
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 4: up and he has to keep backing off the ball,

1980
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 4: and they said it's like Days of Old, because Watson

1981
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 4: then has a chance of his own eagle at some

1982
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 4: point in fifteen to get the seven under right after that.

1983
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 4: So right, it's like Days of Old, And so Watson

1984
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 4: versus Nicholas, they're both going for eagles. I honestly like

1985
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 4: I was many mini digression on Tom Watson. The guy

1986
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 4: won eight majors, but nothing after nineteen eighty three, and

1987
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 4: this is nineteen eighty six. He had to think Jack's

1988
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 4: ten years older. Yeah, Like Jack won a major later

1989
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 4: than Watson did, like eight majors, just so many majors,

1990
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 4: and they all came in like I think it was

1991
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 4: like seventy five to eighty three somewhere I looked it

1992
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 4: up earlier, but like it almost in an eight year,

1993
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 4: ten year span, and he had to think, like I

1994
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 4: was going to outlast Jack or at least get a

1995
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 4: major after Jack. He never did.

1996
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 2: I think something that's amazing about this major is the

1997
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 2: idea of like the old, the old greatest of all time,

1998
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 2: like go run into gauntlet and taking on all the

1999
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: very best of this era and taking it to him

2000
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 2: one last time. Like I just think that that is

2001
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,759
Speaker 2: like the overarching It's it's a little bit of shades

2002
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 2: of Tiger in twenty nineteen with Brooks in the mix,

2003
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 2: like where it's like, oh, oh, boys, you don't want

2004
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: this smoke, like and coming down and just it's just

2005
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: let me show you something and like him doing it.

2006
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 2: And that's like right at this moment in the telecast

2007
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: is kind of where I was like thinking about that.

2008
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 5: It's like, how cool is this tournament?

2009
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 4: Thelphers who have dominated the seventies and eighties have all

2010
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 4: congregated at the top of this leader board, all the

2011
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 4: golfers who dominated.

2012
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 6: This Why though, I guess maybe I'm gonna feel dumb

2013
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 6: when someone reveals answers why isn't Faldo playing? He just

2014
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 6: looked it up. He didn't play in the first two

2015
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 6: Majors of this year. He was like he played in

2016
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 6: the previous three Masters, but then he missed two Masters.

2017
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 6: Is this when Faldo had sort of lost his swing?

2018
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 6: Later this year he finishes in the Open, fifth in

2019
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 6: the Open Championship, and he wins the Masters in eighty

2020
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 6: seven Old Championship.

2021
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 4: In my guess would be when this was This might

2022
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 4: be when he was tearing down this swing would be

2023
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 4: a guess. I don't know, maybe going make it in

2024
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 4: the middle of a swing change, just a guess, all right.

2025
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 4: So so Jack gets through sixteen, he's eagled fifteen, he's

2026
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 4: eagles thirty, sixteen, seventeen. They don't see the drive. They

2027
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: don't they don't know where it went. He like Verne

2028
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 4: is like, oh, we don't see it. Where wherever it is?

2029
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 4: It ends up being any.

2030
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:03,759
Speaker 5: Drive on seven.

2031
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 2: If they just showed the camera shot of like just

2032
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 2: the fairway, there's nothing you can see.

2033
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 4: Yep, yeap. So he hits it. It's a four hundred

2034
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 4: yard hole at the time, seventeen four hundred yards up

2035
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 4: the hill. He said, Jack is prowling after his twentieth

2036
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 4: major win. We should note like that is the ubiquitous

2037
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,799
Speaker 4: concert reference. He's going for twenty majors, which is now eighteen.

2038
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 4: They can't find his te ball quote. We're still searching.

2039
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,799
Speaker 4: It's not good wherever it is. Well, it was like, okay,

2040
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 4: you had a shot. An interesting thing was it wasn't

2041
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 4: a gallery. They never take the ropes down, did you

2042
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 4: guys notice that throughout like they never nowadays they just

2043
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 4: would you know, obviously you take the ropes down, you

2044
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 4: take the stakes down. They're just like, yeah, you know

2045
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 4: if it hits the rope, so well, I'll figure it out.

2046
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 4: After he's like hitting over this gallery, crosswalk side and

2047
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 4: the ropes. This happens over and over again with Norman

2048
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 4: and others. But he has a shot and he a

2049
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 4: clear angle. He comes up and over the top to

2050
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 4: the back back right pin and he's yeah, h to

2051
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 4: the back of the green birdie makeable putt and he makes.

2052
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 3: A hell of a shot from to be on that

2053
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 3: top shelf. Like to not go along there.

2054
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 5: Nothing compared to Norman's though, yeah.

2055
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 4: True, it's not.

2056
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: It's interesting, nothing compared to Yes, like, I'm not trying

2057
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: to diminished check shot, but like what you see fifteen

2058
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 2: minutes later, you're like, oh my god, that.

2059
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 6: When we remember earlier this year we did the greatest

2060
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 6: shots in a losing effort, and I did not put

2061
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 6: Norman's shot on there because I honestly was kind of

2062
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 6: ignorant of it. I was like, oh, Norman blew it

2063
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,600
Speaker 6: on eighteen, Like what And someone was like, yo, you

2064
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 6: need to go check out Norman's shot on seventeen, and

2065
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 6: it's like we'll get there in a second, but it's

2066
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 6: so good that it made our next list that's coming

2067
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 6: out soon for like greatest shots.

2068
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 4: Of all time.

2069
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Can I just point out something that like is a

2070
01:44:54,160 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 2: big theme of this the telecast and also our com terry.

2071
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 5: To this point, nobody.

2072
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 4: And all is talking about Tom Kite, who's just there,

2073
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 4: you gets runner up.

2074
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: He like literally he has a putt to get into

2075
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:14,959
Speaker 2: the playoff, Like what's the closest to getting in the playoff,

2076
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 2: and he's just literally like there the whole.

2077
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Time kind of along.

2078
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it was just like, you know, it's

2079
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: like just like perfect.

2080
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 5: For Tom Kite.

2081
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: I feel like I have, like this guy, really great

2082
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: player of the era, but like not really memorable in

2083
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 2: terms of like when people rattle off names of the

2084
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 2: nineties and eighties, they don't they don't go to Kite,

2085
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 2: even though he's this great, great player, And like even

2086
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 2: on this telecast, it's just like in Tom Kite is

2087
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: just one back.

2088
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 6: These are Tom Kite's consecutive Masters finishes tenth fifth. There's

2089
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 6: some ties in here, but tenth fifth, third, eighteenth, fifth, sixth, fifth, fifth,

2090
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 6: and then this ends up finishing second sixth. He misses

2091
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 6: the cut and the finishes second, and then later he

2092
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 6: has kind of a lull, but he finishes fourth and second.

2093
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 3: H It's like, incredible, incredible.

2094
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 4: Run, Tom, incredible run. And honestly, had the should have

2095
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 4: could have been in the could have been in the

2096
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 4: playoff more more than Norman played better golf than Norman

2097
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 4: on Sunday. So Norman was erratic, But I forgot to say,

2098
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 4: the bears come out of hibernation is when we get

2099
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 4: that famous Nance line, when he's walked off, he's gone

2100
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 4: eagle birdie at sixteen, pulls it on seventeen, gets up

2101
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 4: to the back ledge, and this is where we get

2102
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 4: the famous, the most famous, Yes, sir put I think

2103
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 4: like it is so aided by the visual, like the

2104
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 4: Potter rays, like he knows it's going in the jar

2105
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 4: while it's still going end over end tumbling, and I

2106
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 4: think like it's the iconic moment from this masters. I

2107
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 4: guess he went to he went away, or he went

2108
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 4: ahead for good here and I guess that's the point

2109
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 4: of it. But watching the totality of the three hours,

2110
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that was awesome, major, massive moment, But

2111
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 4: it's like of a piece of like the hundred other

2112
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 4: things that are going on, you know, so anything you

2113
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 4: need to add, I'm not trying to give this short shrift,

2114
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:12,839
Speaker 4: But Jack seventeenth pole.

2115
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,879
Speaker 6: I just love There's a couple of little subtle things,

2116
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 6: like I love how he tugs his pant leg up

2117
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 6: a little bit before he reaches down to get the ball,

2118
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 6: which is just kind of like an old guy thing,

2119
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 6: like your pants don't fit quite right and so you

2120
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 6: want to split it gets a favocat also the fear

2121
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 6: of like splitting your pants if you don't like just

2122
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 6: sort of adjust them a little bit. And I love

2123
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 6: that aster he picks up the ben he's walking off,

2124
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 6: he does, he looks at the sky kind of like

2125
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 6: he's sort of like kind doesn't believe this. There's a

2126
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 6: I have a visual at the very end of this,

2127
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 6: but they show it later where he's just like wow,

2128
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 6: like he kind of like was almost like is this

2129
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 6: shit really happening? Like this this really real life? At

2130
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 6: this moment was kind.

2131
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 4: Of cool, incredible.

2132
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

2133
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 4: Sevy makes his makes his bogie at fifteen and they

2134
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 4: say he's not in a tie Jack, and we get

2135
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 4: the foreign invasions reeling under the bear's attack. Right ben,

2136
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 4: right line. We don't really Sevy. That's it. That's it

2137
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 4: for Sevy. Essentially, we don't really see much more of Sev.

2138
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 5: I mean seventeen. We need the putt he hit seventeen.

2139
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 5: I mean he still had a chance I could take.

2140
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 3: I always thought he was dead hitting the water on fifteen.

2141
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,520
Speaker 4: No, no, actually.

2142
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: Tied from the putt on seventeen needs to be talked about.

2143
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,480
Speaker 2: He has like a eighteen feet for Bertie.

2144
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 5: To tie the lead.

2145
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 2: He's behind the hole fifteen feet passed and he's three

2146
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: putts and that is over. But he could have either

2147
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 2: made that putt or if he just two putts there

2148
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 2: from very short distance, he could birdie eighteen and get

2149
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 2: into a playoff. It was like I the fifteenth shot

2150
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: was one thing. My note was Seve just melted on

2151
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 2: season mentally melted, melted down there.

2152
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 6: He said on in his biography years later that the

2153
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 6: shot on fifteen like haunted him forever, like that. He

2154
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 6: just couldn't get over that. He smother hooked it into

2155
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 6: the pond there with with like all he's got to

2156
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 6: do is like put that anywhere on the green two putt.

2157
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 3: He's going to win the Masters.

2158
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 4: The putt on seventeen. You just don't see, like, okay,

2159
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 4: we can talk about equipment, right, Equipment issues make the

2160
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 4: misses worse. The put on something you just don't see

2161
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 4: from guys in contention at a major who've won that

2162
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 4: major multiple times. We're talking like he makes contact, he

2163
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 4: waves at the ball knowing it's going like twenty feet

2164
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 4: past what like is.

2165
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 2: The general gesticulations of players were it was so incredible,

2166
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 2: like they they were expressive, one more, one more, one

2167
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 2: more preposterous Sevvy moment.

2168
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 4: So he's ball in sixteen, lands on the top of

2169
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 4: the bunker. He does a hockey putt. He does like

2170
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 4: he's got to, like all the way to the pucker,

2171
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 4: does a hockey putt. He makes a ball, But.

2172
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 3: I do like it.

2173
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 6: At some point, I think it's on eighteen VENTUREI says,

2174
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 6: they keep on ballisteros. This is before they anyone had

2175
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 6: knew to pronounced the double l's Ballisterario's will win more

2176
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 6: than to what will win more masters. I guarantee you

2177
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 6: that it's like, Nope, that didn't happen there.

2178
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, guarantee you that, he said. I guarante like

2179
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 4: he is the undisputed best player in the world. I

2180
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: guarantee you that I had that right. Uh had to

2181
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 4: back off his pot as Jack is going up eighteen.

2182
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 4: He almost so. Jack gets in the middle on eighteen.

2183
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 4: It's the middle of the green on eighteen, doesn't get

2184
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 4: up to the There's not the usual pin that we've

2185
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 4: become so accustomed to right there, like middle left there

2186
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 4: in the in the swale, and it's his top back

2187
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 4: right pin would have been perfect in the normal pin

2188
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 4: we're used to. It has like a fifty footter that

2189
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 4: he almost he puts it in the heart and people

2190
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 4: are like losing their mind, like, oh my god, Like

2191
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 4: I thought that was going in. It's like like you know, reach, reach,

2192
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 4: and it was it nearly went in. He's just a

2193
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 4: tap in part.

2194
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if he had made that putt and

2195
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 6: essentially had just like shot twenty nine to win the Masters,

2196
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 6: like and there was no doubt nobody was gonna even

2197
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 6: like have it.

2198
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 3: But to catch.

2199
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 4: Him as he was walking up, Venturi says, in all

2200
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 4: my years and in the golf, in all my years

2201
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 4: in the golf, I think that was the most emotional

2202
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 4: and largest ovation I've ever heard, is Jack is walking

2203
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 4: up to the green and he almost makes it. He goes,

2204
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 4: that was right in the middle. Pat, what a play,

2205
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 4: what a champion, what a round? What a player? Ah beautiful,

2206
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 4: he says, ah beautiful when he hugs Jackie as his

2207
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 4: kid obviously as they're walking off. So that's there's still

2208
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 4: a lot of golf to be played. So anything from

2209
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 4: Jack and eighteen we got that cup go ahead.

2210
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, the other the putt, the putt was incredible in

2211
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 2: the heart.

2212
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of rolls.

2213
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Lay like an eighty footer completely dead where you just

2214
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 2: have the tap in. Meanwhile, though the shark, the shark

2215
01:51:59,280 --> 01:51:59,879
Speaker 2: is circling.

2216
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 4: The shark is circling. So he looked horrible. Look just

2217
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 4: yanking the ball saving part. Then he goes to birdie fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

2218
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 4: That's it, that's all he did. Seventeen we've talked about where.

2219
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 3: We didn't really describe what it was though. Yeah, I

2220
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 3: want to hear your description of.

2221
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 2: What well, I mean sixteen he hits that shot and

2222
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 2: it and it just kind of corrals in and I

2223
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 2: feel like when Jack was putting out if I if

2224
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 2: I recall Norman's around fifteen, and Ben Wright says, here

2225
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: we have it a shark and a bear.

2226
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of animal terms flying this line.

2227
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 8: Uh.

2228
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,879
Speaker 2: But then at sixteen he hits like just like the

2229
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: the just such an epic shot, you know where it

2230
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 2: plays the slope perfectly corrals it in and it's just like,

2231
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 2: oh my god, it you know what like you guys,

2232
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: I can't remember who said it was.

2233
01:52:58,960 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 5: Kind of a Rory esque.

2234
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Yes it was, because he would hit that shot and

2235
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 2: they followed it with the snap pook off seventeen t

2236
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: were like, what where did that come from?

2237
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 4: The best player in the world. It's like they look

2238
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 4: like nobody could beat you. And then you're like, yeah,

2239
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 4: it was incredible. Sixteen was it was not that I

2240
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 4: know we're talking about these near aces, but I mean

2241
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 4: kite airmailed it. Peven hit in the middle of the pond.

2242
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't like just everybody throwing it to the same

2243
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 4: spot in like a wedge and sucking it back past

2244
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:33,959
Speaker 4: the hole. There was variability there even on these last

2245
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:40,440
Speaker 4: five five to six groups. So on seventeen, like, it's unbelievable.

2246
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 4: Eisenhower's tree is there, Like you wonder if it's like

2247
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 4: caught in the Eisenhower tree. You just know you could

2248
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 4: see the ball snapping off the tee and that's it.

2249
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 4: There's questions on whether you should get relief from a

2250
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 4: sprinkler head that is for the seventh green. It's on

2251
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 4: like the fringe of the seventh green. And this is

2252
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 4: what Andy, I think you ended up over here when

2253
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 4: you played around. Not to throw your round here again,

2254
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 4: but like you just.

2255
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: Don't see this much few more trees then, yes, that

2256
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: was the sightlines through. I just seem good point out

2257
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: that these are two of the greatest shots in Masters

2258
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: history that nobody would be able to hit now because

2259
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: they've planted a gazillion trees over there to prohibit like.

2260
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 5: The recovery shots.

2261
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 2: There's also like crazy the other thing you know, just

2262
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 2: watching this, there's no p pine straw on the golf court.

2263
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 4: No, yeah, nope, there's nothing, no pine straw sightlines just

2264
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 4: from like through around fifteen and fourteen, there's no it's

2265
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 4: just kind of open. So this still is kind of

2266
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 4: a it's a low runner onto the front of the

2267
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 4: green and he makes essentially about the same length putt

2268
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 4: as Jack. Like the shot to get from essentially seventh

2269
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 4: green to call it like twelve feet was a miracle

2270
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 4: uses the ground, runs it up there and then makes

2271
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 4: the putt and gets the yes sir, and is smiling

2272
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 4: and runs like is kind of like skipping to the eighteenth.

2273
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 6: Career playing the hits using guests are yet again for

2274
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 6: Norman Era, this is like when a one hit wonder

2275
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 6: has a radio hit. You hear it like ten minutes

2276
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 6: after you heard it on the radio again.

2277
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2278
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 2: Also, while this is going on, top Kite is basically

2279
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: hit a great pot that ran that if he hit

2280
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 2: a fraction harder goes in and gets into the playoffs.

2281
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: But once again, nobody talks about how top Kite probably

2282
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: should have wont this.

2283
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:35,879
Speaker 3: And Kevin, yeah best like hits a six iron Venturi.

2284
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 6: We didn't really talk a lot about Venturi, who's kind

2285
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 6: of a dick, like in a lot of ways, like

2286
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 6: in a very honest way, but like we'll cook people

2287
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 6: like if they don't. And he you know, everybody's rooting

2288
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 6: for Jack at this point. It's like they kind of

2289
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 6: want Jack to win. Like, you know, Kite hits his

2290
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 6: great six iron into the green and just how you

2291
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 6: think it was. It hits the top of the hill

2292
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 6: and releases right at the pin and and Ventura's like, oh,

2293
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 6: kind of a lucky there.

2294
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: It was like, no, dude, like that's a really good shot.

2295
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 4: It was the best approach shot on eighteen of the

2296
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 4: day of this of this broadcast.

2297
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 6: That's and then what does the adventure you say on

2298
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 6: the putt? You cannot be short here. You do not

2299
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 6: be short as he hits it, just as I said short,

2300
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 6: didn't hold the line low left, short, can't be short there.

2301
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 6: I guarantee Norman will not be short here on his putt.

2302
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 4: I mean I get it. I get his point, Like

2303
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 4: he didn't give it enough. It got to the it

2304
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 4: got to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just missed them

2305
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 4: the low side. But that yeah, and he loses by

2306
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 4: a shot. Tom Kite incredible. He will win undoubtedly with

2307
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 4: how consistency, how consistent he is. His jacket is coming,

2308
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 4: is what they said. Uh so Norman Birdie's seventeen I

2309
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 4: will just say I forgot to mention at seventeen when

2310
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 4: when Jack made his and we got the yes, sir.

2311
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 4: They asked, whiskopfu has his history with him? Like Jack, Tom,

2312
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: you must be a jumble of emotion right now, he goes.

2313
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 4: I jumped up. I jumped up I like, I can't

2314
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 4: believe this is happening. Weiss Coffin is in the younger

2315
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 4: than Jack. He's in the broadcast booth, and you got Jack.

2316
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 4: He must be a jumble of emotion. So so Norman

2317
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 4: follows shortly makes his own birdy at seventeen eighteen, as

2318
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 4: we talked about, makes draws the three wood perfect down

2319
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 4: the middle, has the four iron.

2320
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 3: I got a sure that's right here.

2321
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 6: We can beach can put up of Norman standing in

2322
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 6: the middle of the fairly here.

2323
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 4: The whole thing, you know, part for a playoff. Mh.

2324
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 3: Probably what we're thinking, like one ninety here or something,

2325
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 3: but you know, two hundred.

2326
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:40,959
Speaker 5: Seventy seven.

2327
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 3: Trying to hit a draw up pill.

2328
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're probably playing that. It's probably

2329
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 2: one ninety five shot he's trying to and he's in

2330
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 2: in four iron one.

2331
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 4: Thing eighteen is much more open on the tea box,

2332
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 4: less claustrophobic like the ropes. I don't know if the

2333
01:57:58,400 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 4: rope line in the box is just big.

2334
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 5: Well.

2335
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 4: The other thing is the box is thirty yards up.

2336
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 4: It's not very back. I understand it's on the top

2337
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 4: of that hillie.

2338
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 5: Of the tea box.

2339
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Like the cluster of trees is a lot closer to

2340
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 2: the tea box.

2341
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 4: It's so it just feels so just kind of roomy

2342
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 4: up there. Uh So he gets it up there.

2343
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 3: I have a next shot here where he hits the crowd.

2344
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 4: Well as he's as he's over the ball, Ventory goes,

2345
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 4: if there's any doubt about the greatness of the man, Oh,

2346
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 4: this is about Jack, about the great man. He's proven

2347
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 4: it today. But they're talking about how Ventory is like

2348
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 4: surely a playoff or a win, like probably not. A

2349
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 4: bogie is coming. Everybody's congregating around the tenth Green. So

2350
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 4: they have video of the masses running down for the

2351
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 4: Norman Nicholas playoff, Like everybody's encircling the tenth Green, and

2352
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 4: and they're like they're all they're all heading there. This

2353
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 4: is gonna be a playoff, you know, at worst, or

2354
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 4: a win for Norman. You know he's gonna get his win.

2355
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 4: So all right, so go ahead, Kevin, I don't interrupt you.

2356
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 3: No, it just you know, Norman we talked a little

2357
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: about the beginning.

2358
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 6: I always remember this in Sports Illustrated that Rick Raley

2359
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 6: referred to it as his four iron fo r e

2360
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 6: uh and because he hits it, not hitting fifteen rows

2361
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 6: deep into the crowd here. It's like at the top,

2362
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 6: like at the kind of the top of the picture

2363
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 6: here if you're watching on YouTube, is where the ball lands.

2364
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 6: It's just such an incredible like miss for like the

2365
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 6: championship was on the line, but he hits a decent

2366
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 6: enough chip to where he ends up with this putt

2367
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 6: in the next frame here to to ship.

2368
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 4: Was incredible chiprun down there.

2369
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 5: Good. Okay, it's like that is so good.

2370
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously there's one more frame here with the putt

2371
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 6: like standing over it. He does not hit the greatest

2372
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 6: putt here. Uh you know, misses by a good foot

2373
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 6: on the left winner. It's like, you know, maybe eight

2374
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 6: inches on the left. But just like I don't know,

2375
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 6: I can't help but feel a little bit for Norman

2376
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 6: as I go back through the last month, through some

2377
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 6: of these old masters of just how close he was

2378
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 6: to winning like four green jackets and gets blanked over again.

2379
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 5: Again.

2380
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't that approach shot just go for the playoff.

2381
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable how wide that approach shot was. I know

2382
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 4: he had the four iron after you just watched what

2383
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 4: he did on seventeen Venturi is like sort of incredulous.

2384
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 4: He goes, he's watched this for the last two hours.

2385
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 4: He goes, you're not supposed to do these things in golf,

2386
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 4: what you're watching, You're not supposed to do this. And

2387
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 4: then we get the other side of the coin of

2388
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 4: like the very bad with the approach after the recovery

2389
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 4: for Birdie on seventeen, where he's just miles into the

2390
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 4: gallery and does the one thing. I honestly, the fact

2391
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 4: that he had that putt for Parr was a miracle.

2392
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 4: I thought the chip was incredible that he really I

2393
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 4: thought he was dead. And in jail Fire, there's an

2394
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 4: incredible visual of Norman they've got to clear out, like

2395
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 4: ten rows. He's so far back and there's all this,

2396
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 4: you know, because it's Augusta, they probably don't want to

2397
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 4: say this, but like detritis, there's water bottles and you know,

2398
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 4: like rappers, and he's standing there and it's taking while

2399
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 4: for these people of an advanced age to screw up.

2400
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,919
Speaker 4: He starts kicking these bottles like he looks fucked, like resign.

2401
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 4: He has his hands on his hips, like looks like

2402
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 4: he's in jail. Seems to appear to have the attitude

2403
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 4: body language of someone who's done. Gets to the point

2404
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 4: where like it's unbelievable how he's just looking around so mad,

2405
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 4: like I'm done, I'm toast, and kicks a couple like

2406
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 4: extra leftover items of garbage after like these the rows

2407
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 4: of people have been moved back, and.

2408
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 6: You know, after birdying four in row, you know, he

2409
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:45,840
Speaker 6: was thinking, I'm going to burdie this last hole and

2410
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna win the freaking masters.

2411
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 4: I just I'd never I don't recall that this hun

2412
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 4: on a single putt at the very end with Norman.

2413
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 4: I just you see the Jack and this was essentially

2414
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 4: the same anything as Rory last year on eighteen, like

2415
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 4: that tension and death in the air, life or death,

2416
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 4: and you just it's been reduced to Jack and all

2417
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 4: his charge, which is of course sorryer, but I just

2418
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 4: don't remember it coming down to the wire. And of

2419
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 4: course he's in the Jones cabin. I think it's Jones.

2420
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 4: Maybe it was it, which is you know, left to

2421
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 4: ten there, and so I have to race him over

2422
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 4: to the Butler cabin, which of.

2423
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 3: Course I have a good visual hair of him walking.

2424
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was very funny this security guard

2425
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 6: sticking his hand out to.

2426
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 3: Shake his hand as Nicholas does shake his hand, and.

2427
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 4: Random people just like walk in, yeah, shake his hand.

2428
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 4: Whoever that man is who's on it appears in the video,

2429
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 4: but just walks in from the security to shake this

2430
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 4: guy's hand with the greatest major ever like hopefully has

2431
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 4: this is some keepsake, it's just Joe's mo maybe it's

2432
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 4: a friend to Nicholas.

2433
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 5: Kevin. You you illuminated this.

2434
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 2: I think this is one of the greatest early memes

2435
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 2: if only social media existed when this was created. I

2436
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 2: saw I was happy that you gathered this because this

2437
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 2: was the one asset I wanted to be in here.

2438
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 2: That floating head, jack floating over twelve, Like what an

2439
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 2: unflattering picture.

2440
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 5: At the head? He just what's the master? What's the

2441
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 5: six s green jacket?

2442
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 2: And it's like, let's put together the worst looking photo

2443
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 2: we can.

2444
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 6: If you're listening listening on the pod, it's it's a

2445
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 6: shot of twelve for some reason, and Jack on after

2446
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 6: you made the putt on seventeen.

2447
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 3: Looking at the sky, which I was alluding to.

2448
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 6: But it's like like his disembodied head is like sort

2449
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 6: of floating over the bridge.

2450
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 2: It's nineteen eighty six photoshop capabilities here.

2451
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 6: It's kind of like transparent too, so like where Jack's

2452
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 6: collar is, you can still see through the green and

2453
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 6: like part of his like shirt and skin on the green.

2454
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a trip.

2455
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 4: When Norman misses the putt badly, Venturi goes, that is

2456
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 4: hard to believe. What a finish, What a finish, My god,

2457
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 4: what a game?

2458
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:07,839
Speaker 5: Uh?

2459
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 4: And so they rush Jack. They get him to Butler cabin.

2460
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 4: You could hear him. Musburger's doing the voiceover with he's

2461
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 4: in the cabin with hord Harden, who's the chairman of

2462
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 4: Augusta National at the time.

2463
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 3: Trying to get some asking questions and then.

2464
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 4: Well that's he didn't to ask. But then you can

2465
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 4: hear Jack kind of rustling in, because the audio of

2466
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 4: this whole day is like you can hear everything in

2467
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 4: the room and around the hole. It's like this Mike's

2468
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 4: picking up, there's Jack like coming back, where's my Jack

2469
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 4: like rustling in to get to get a seat, as

2470
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 4: Musburger does the voiceover, Uh, so they go they go

2471
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 4: to Musburger. Never in the history of golf is a

2472
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 4: more popular champion Ben crowned Hordhart and the chairman talks

2473
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 4: about we have two men who have prevailed. Who's the other,

2474
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 4: Sam Randolph? I mean got he prevailed? He did?

2475
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 2: Do you know how many more Masters Sam Randolph played

2476
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 2: in what another handwer This was his best eighteen as

2477
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 2: am was pretty good. Was a bona fide pro thirty six,

2478
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 2: thirty six the year before, Oh wow, okay, th eighteen

2479
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 2: was his best Master's finish, the USC Hall of Finish

2480
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 2: runner up the year before in the US AM then

2481
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 2: won the US AM to get it. And so he

2482
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 2: played played the Masters twice two years in a row

2483
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 2: as an abb which is pretty rare.

2484
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they go to jack. It's been an unusual year

2485
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 4: for me. I really don't have uh, I mean Hoarhart

2486
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 4: and asking Sam Rodolph is the biggest sort of total

2487
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 4: curveball for the moment like this all time? What a

2488
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 4: Master's the greatest masters I've ever seen? That, Venturi says.

2489
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,680
Speaker 4: And they've got to talk to Sam Randolph. He's like,

2490
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna go pro. And it was a

2491
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 4: great day. I think the question was, uh, you know,

2492
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,879
Speaker 4: how was your day out there? I hope you enjoyed yourself.

2493
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 4: To Randolph did low Am that everyone just wants to

2494
02:05:57,760 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 4: hear from Jack. Pretty good. I hope you had a

2495
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 4: nice day. Jack says, it's been unusual year for me.

2496
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 4: I really just played awful and started playing well about

2497
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 4: a week ago. I felt like I could play. I

2498
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 4: didn't expect to be in position to win. I felt

2499
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 4: this morning all of a sudden though. If I shot

2500
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 4: sixty six, I thought I'd tie it. If I shot

2501
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 4: sixty five, I'd win it. And that's sort of the masters, right,

2502
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,879
Speaker 4: Like I like, it can happen really fast on a Sunday.

2503
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 4: Of course, you can't shoot back nine thirties every time,

2504
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:29,040
Speaker 4: but he's been there. He's like, I haven't had my game.

2505
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 4: But I wake up on Sunday and he's like, and

2506
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:34,840
Speaker 4: you know, maybe sixty six I can tie it. In

2507
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 4: sixty five, maybe maybe maybe I'd win. And that's kind

2508
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 4: of what happened. He said, I haven't had this much

2509
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,919
Speaker 4: fun in six years. He gets emotional talking about Jackiet

2510
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 4: Jackie when they ask him about his spot. I'm fifteen,

2511
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 4: you know I talked to Jackie, and then just to

2512
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 4: mention of Jackie gets some going and very emotional and

2513
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 4: how he hasn't had that much fun in six years,

2514
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 4: talked about the crowd being deafening and having to wipe

2515
02:06:57,120 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 4: tears from his eyes, and like, you got golf to play,

2516
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 4: You got golf to play. When he was walking from

2517
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 4: like greens and teas as the crowds were firing him up.

2518
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 6: Kuse Andy, I didn't know Jackie was such a good player,

2519
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 6: talking about how he won the North South Amateur.

2520
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 5: Right, great players, great parents.

2521
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 4: Right, we got a lot of that, a lot of

2522
02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 4: that throughout, which was a special moment, you like the

2523
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 4: fathers and sons deal was. It was evident throughout. And yeah,

2524
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, I'd heard all about how like

2525
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 4: I can't win anymore, and I said, I'm gonna prove

2526
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 4: him wrong, you know. I wanted to show they were wrong.

2527
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, an all time and all time Masters

2528
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 4: for sure? What else am I leaving leaving off the

2529
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 4: table here?

2530
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:38,320
Speaker 3: Anything? Just my one last kind of journalism tidbit? Here

2531
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 3: is it?

2532
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 6: Dave Kindred, famous sports writer, was washing posts and stuff.

2533
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 6: Didn't attend this Masters. It was like the first one

2534
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 6: in twenty some years or something. He didn't go to

2535
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 6: because he was attending the wedding of his son, and

2536
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 6: so all these people were like, oh man, bet you

2537
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 6: you suck that you miss out whatever. And Nicholas heard

2538
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 6: about this and wrote Kindred a letter and it was like,

2539
02:07:57,760 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 6: I just want you to know, like how much I

2540
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 6: admire the decision that you made, Like family is like

2541
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 6: way more important than anything that I could have ever done.

2542
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 6: And if you ever want to know like the inside

2543
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 6: scoop on what happened in nineteen six, just.

2544
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:10,720
Speaker 3: Give me a call. I'll be happy to give you

2545
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 3: the tail. That's kind of cool thing.

2546
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 4: Andy, you got to run? You got any sign off, Kevin,

2547
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:17,640
Speaker 4: and I can wrap it? You got anything else?

2548
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 5: All time? All time?

2549
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Masters was super fun to do it, and I think, like, yeah,

2550
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 2: I didn't like what gets lost to time is just

2551
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 2: the gauntlet that he goes through of players to beat.

2552
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever see a leaderboard like that. Yeah, yeah,

2553
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 2: it was you know, it'd be you know, effectively like

2554
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 2: right now is would be you know, you have like

2555
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, Justin Rose wins and it's Rob Rory Scheffler.

2556
02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 4: It's almost like Tiger, but like healthy tiger. Yeah.

2557
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 5: But like Francesco Mullinari was problemly.

2558
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 4: Oh totally. Oh, I'm not comparing it to nineteen. I'm saying,

2559
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 4: like Tiger two years ago, I don't know, healthy Tiger

2560
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 4: two years ago. Having to take on those guys incredible. Yeah,

2561
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 4: just like crazy. All right, well we'll button it up.

2562
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 9: R of R.

2563
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:16,959
Speaker 4: Good good tiing you keV. This was fun. This is enjoyable.

2564
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 4: Weather notes you got. I just I found Jack to

2565
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 4: be you know, we tend to think of him at

2566
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 4: pretty dry, but you know this was one you hear

2567
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 4: about from your dad and you hear about like I

2568
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:30,880
Speaker 4: wasn't around. I didn't remember, like to Andy's point, just

2569
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 4: the amount of people who were coming at him, the

2570
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 4: amount of people like Bias. Terris was the favorite, Norman

2571
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,280
Speaker 4: was a favorite at the start, Nikki Price was the

2572
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 4: favorite at the start of the day. You know, Lennard's

2573
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 4: this great defending champ at number one in the world,

2574
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 4: and Jack's like, you know, people are saying, I was

2575
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 4: at a USGA dinner like the week before, and they're

2576
02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 4: asked him like essentially, when you're gonna stop playing? So

2577
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:54,160
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not playing well and I'm not going

2578
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 4: to go out playing poorly. I'm not going to go

2579
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 4: out playing like embarrassing myself. I'm playing poorly. This is

2580
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 4: not how I'm gonna finish. And then like a week

2581
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 4: later he's shooting thirty on the back, nine sixty five

2582
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:09,040
Speaker 4: on Sunday. I don't think it can really be over romanticized,

2583
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 4: quite frankly, or overhyped.

2584
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 6: Every sportswriter who's ever lived has covered golf has written

2585
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 6: some version of like in the Day Jack Nicholas, like

2586
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 6: puts you in a time machine and made you forget

2587
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 6: that we could you know, you could be forever young.

2588
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 3: It's funny. I don't have a memory of this.

2589
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 6: I was born late in seventy seven, and so you know,

2590
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 6: I'm nine years old at this point.

2591
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 3: I don't have like really any interest in golf whatever.

2592
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 6: But I got permission to tell this story. My father

2593
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 6: golf fan. My father kind of grew up kind of

2594
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 6: more blue collar. He was, you know, his father was

2595
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:45,040
Speaker 6: was a history professor, but he also like worked as

2596
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 6: like a newspaper delivery guy.

2597
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 3: And like so my dad, like he in college, he

2598
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 3: worked in a cannery and stuff.

2599
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 6: He was like a he became a lawyer later in life,

2600
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 6: but he was he was kind of an aspiring reacher

2601
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 6: my mom. Her father was a doctor, and he they

2602
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 6: were kind of a bit more you knowuppercross at least

2603
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 6: for Montana's sake or whatever. And my grandfather is very

2604
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 6: proper person, you know, he like knew Shakespeare, and he

2605
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 6: was like he loved to play cribbage, and he was

2606
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 6: a more serious person. It's nineteen eighty six. Masters comes

2607
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 6: along and they're having I don't know if it's Easter dinner,

2608
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 6: because I don't think has happened on Easter, but it's

2609
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 6: like around then, it's like a holiday. And my parents

2610
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 6: are in Gray Falls, Montana, and dinner is being served

2611
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 6: like while the Masters is going on. And my grandparents,

2612
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:29,680
Speaker 6: who liked golf, certainly didn't think that you would, like,

2613
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,680
Speaker 6: you know, skip out on dinner to watch a golf

2614
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,879
Speaker 6: tournament and certainly didn't grasp that like what Jack Nicholas

2615
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 6: winning the Masters would meant. And so my father is

2616
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:43,839
Speaker 6: like being called to dinner repeatedly while the back nine

2617
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 6: run is going on, and he's sort of like putting

2618
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 6: off my my prim and proper grandparents and keeps kind

2619
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 6: of like making excuses to like go back into the

2620
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 6: living room and turn the TV on and stuff, and

2621
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 6: I think my mother was like from my dad's telling

2622
02:11:57,400 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 6: of it, was.

2623
02:11:57,800 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 3: Kind of mortified about the whole thing.

2624
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 6: And I just love the image of my dad being like, yeah,

2625
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 6: but like Jack Nicholas is winning the Masters, like sir,

2626
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 6: can we just like pause the asparagus and lamb that's

2627
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 6: being served here and I can go finish up this

2628
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:13,000
Speaker 6: Masters pretty good.

2629
02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:14,920
Speaker 4: If there is any doubt about the greatness of this

2630
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 4: man inventory he said, yeah, there's everybody just there was

2631
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 4: the right Thompson essay that like got me into my

2632
02:12:20,160 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 4: first like when I was gonna cover my first Masters,

2633
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 4: and got me all fired up. I think it was

2634
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 4: probably about ten years ago now where you know about

2635
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:29,440
Speaker 4: like his dad and came here, son, you're gona Jacks

2636
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 4: going about to win the Masters, and this would be

2637
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 4: the greatest day or story of your life. And that

2638
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 4: got me all fired up to go the mouth even

2639
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:38,240
Speaker 4: though I was through I was two and a half.

2640
02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 4: I was two almost three years. All the time, my

2641
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,480
Speaker 4: dad was like a big golfer and then got into

2642
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 4: golf caddying, and Nicholas was from Ohio. Weiscoff was from

2643
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 4: Cleveland like they were. You would hear stories of him

2644
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 4: like watching this and and but that's all I had.

2645
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:53,840
Speaker 4: Like the first Masters I remember watching my parents were

2646
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 4: like kind of the woozy and Ali and in the

2647
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 4: nineties early nineties, and this one you just are relying

2648
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 4: for me and relying on my dad. So watching it

2649
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 4: back was like just trying to think in modern media terms,

2650
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 4: how this would be covered. It would like it we

2651
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 4: just self combust between like the Norman issue, Sevy issue,

2652
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:19,640
Speaker 4: the SEV fifteen as the best player in the world

2653
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:20,160
Speaker 4: at the time.

2654
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:24,320
Speaker 6: I mean this, dude, I think I told this in

2655
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 6: the when I joined Frida Egg. Like Rick Riley's game

2656
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 6: story about the Age six Masters is kind of a

2657
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 6: like part of my sports writing origin story.

2658
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 3: I didn't read it until ten years after it ran.

2659
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 6: But I was so like, kind of in awe of

2660
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:44,360
Speaker 6: the way that the you could write a game story

2661
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 6: that good that would make you feel like you were

2662
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 6: reliving this event. I mean, it wasn't until the what

2663
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 6: was probably what six years ago or something that the

2664
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 6: Masters put these things up on the broadcast I think

2665
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:57,640
Speaker 6: on YouTube where.

2666
02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 4: You can watch the YEP.

2667
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 6: So I didn't watch the full accounting of this until,

2668
02:14:04,280 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 6: you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and my recollection or

2669
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 6: my memories of this are almost all entirely from reading

2670
02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:13,400
Speaker 6: print stories, like of reading that Jenkins story that I

2671
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 6: alluded to earlier, but he killed more foreigners than Eisenhower.

2672
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 6: Like it's just like that kind of shows you like

2673
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 6: how different it was, but how the power of print

2674
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:25,600
Speaker 6: and the reason why I became a writer is because

2675
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:27,840
Speaker 6: those written things are what kind of influenced me to

2676
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 6: get into this.

2677
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, an incredible rewatch worth the time. It's three hours,

2678
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 4: which can take a while, you know, jump around, get

2679
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:39,200
Speaker 4: in there. But there's so many, you know, nuggets, so

2680
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 4: many amusements. The broadcast is just hilarious in and of itself.

2681
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure was you know, it's just it's forty years ago,

2682
02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 4: so there's all sorts of different different vernacular, different technology,

2683
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:53,120
Speaker 4: and then the greatest, you know, arguably the greatest major

2684
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 4: championship of all time. Anything else, any other amusements, nuggets

2685
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 4: you want to throw out there, total strays to unload

2686
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:02,839
Speaker 4: the notebook. We don't need to end up from Stappy

2687
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:07,520
Speaker 4: Jack quote, but we certainly can. Just to add to

2688
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:10,560
Speaker 4: Andy's point, one of their great values of watching this

2689
02:15:10,680 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 4: are just the worst shots are the worst shots you've

2690
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 4: ever seen, and there's like a list of ten of

2691
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 4: them that you can pick from Snave on fifteen, peven

2692
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:22,080
Speaker 4: Norman like four or five times, Lonner like it's just

2693
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 4: you miss you miss bad. So that's another like just

2694
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 4: interesting part of the watch. So yeah, I didn't like

2695
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,800
Speaker 4: that the broadcast just one note on the broadcast went

2696
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 4: out with the mistake, but with Brent saying there he

2697
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:38,680
Speaker 4: is hugging jack and Jackie hugging on the fifteenth green

2698
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:41,240
Speaker 4: he has won the Masters again, and then it goes

2699
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 4: to faith to Black. It's of course on the eighteenth

2700
02:15:43,880 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 4: after they're walking off. It's just there's a lot of

2701
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 4: that stuff that people modern Twitter would go nuts about.

2702
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:53,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I didn't have any other things really,

2703
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:55,760
Speaker 6: and I mean I did a ranking of greatest hair.

2704
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:59,480
Speaker 3: Because like I had number one.

2705
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:03,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg Norman like different best hair. I mean, so

2706
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:06,080
Speaker 6: back then, you know a lot of golfers. Now you

2707
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:08,120
Speaker 6: see him, they take off their hat and they're balding

2708
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:10,000
Speaker 6: or whatever. It's probably because they've been wearing hats for

2709
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 6: twenty years whatever. But the locks were like incredible back then,

2710
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:15,640
Speaker 6: So like I had longer at number five, but what

2711
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 6: an incredible like coy. Nick Price's hair is like a

2712
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:22,840
Speaker 6: perfectly helmet. Tom Kite wears advisors. You can't really see it,

2713
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 6: but he had great hair. Corey Pavin's hair is incredible,

2714
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 6: and then Greg Norman's really is like it's the King.

2715
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 6: I don't know if you can put Jack in hair. Look,

2716
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 6: Jack has great hair too. It's just like how blonde

2717
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 6: and you know, kind of perfect hair to Norman and

2718
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 6: Nicholas have. It's kind of crazy that like that that

2719
02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:42,879
Speaker 6: level of blonde doesn't really exist for some reason, we've

2720
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:45,279
Speaker 6: bred it out of the modern game everything.

2721
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:46,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2722
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 3: I just love the lack of hats. That's such a

2723
02:16:48,879 --> 02:16:49,280
Speaker 3: neat thing.

2724
02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:53,760
Speaker 6: My guy, Calvin Pete finishes eleventh in this Masters is high.

2725
02:16:53,800 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 6: It's his best Master's performance ever. You know, Calvin had

2726
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:01,200
Speaker 6: some real frustrations and issues with the Masters. You know,

2727
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 6: years prior he'd basically kind of detonated him after playing

2728
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 6: poorly here. He'd basically said, you know, how would you

2729
02:17:06,840 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 6: feel like if you came to a place where you

2730
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 6: didn't feel like you were welcome. I feel like I'm

2731
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 6: you know, I feel like a slave. I feel like

2732
02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 6: I'm a second class citizen, and people just were like, whoa,

2733
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 6: like you nobody talks about the masters like this, and

2734
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:20,480
Speaker 6: he kind of walked it back and was like, yeah,

2735
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 6: just in.

2736
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:23,640
Speaker 3: The years later it was a bad mood or whatever.

2737
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:26,720
Speaker 6: It's just like the crowd is cheering for him as

2738
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:29,760
Speaker 6: he walks up eighteen and stuff, and then he takes

2739
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 6: his hat off and kind.

2740
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:31,320
Speaker 3: Of waves it to the crowd.

2741
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:35,960
Speaker 6: I mean, considering Augusta's history, pretty cool moment in eighty six.

2742
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,200
Speaker 6: You know, we're still ten years away from Tiger, eleven

2743
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:40,720
Speaker 6: years away from Tiger winning, and like the scene of

2744
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:43,840
Speaker 6: all the workers in Augusta coming out to the veranda

2745
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:46,560
Speaker 6: and clapping for him and stuff, but like kind of

2746
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:49,879
Speaker 6: cool moments in racial history of like, I don't know

2747
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 6: that Augusta consider him say that we're they're proud of

2748
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:55,240
Speaker 6: their history, but at least they've evolved over time, and

2749
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 6: I think now are thought of as like a pretty

2750
02:17:58,120 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 6: I think it was a pretty like of the Major's

2751
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:01,959
Speaker 6: a pretty inclusive, pretty progressive place.

2752
02:18:02,280 --> 02:18:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I think that's fair point. That's fair point.

2753
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:08,280
Speaker 4: He was there just that just one shot, essentially Pete

2754
02:18:08,320 --> 02:18:12,279
Speaker 4: finishing up on eighteen the top ten that the ventury

2755
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,120
Speaker 4: quote I want to add when Norman's over, the body says,

2756
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 4: you're looking at a man who wins it outright or

2757
02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:19,480
Speaker 4: goes down the tent pole in a playoff. Neither of

2758
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:23,440
Speaker 4: those would happen. So he added, My gracious, what a

2759
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:26,280
Speaker 4: day had had? Just everything, And I'll close with what

2760
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 4: he said, It just everything seems to happen here, And

2761
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:32,920
Speaker 4: that was the eighty six broadcast. Has never been a

2762
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:34,959
Speaker 4: greater example of how it all just seems to happen,

2763
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:36,920
Speaker 4: and felt like we got a similar thing last year

2764
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:41,720
Speaker 4: in twenty five. All right, Kevin, this beefy flashback Friday Friday,

2765
02:18:41,720 --> 02:18:44,600
Speaker 4: thanks to Mercedes. I mean, pay my notes are like

2766
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 4: I just want to keep going through them. I got

2767
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 4: fifteen pages of notes. But this is fun.

2768
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:50,480
Speaker 5: We got that work.

2769
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 3: Good job. I'm appreciate you. It work.

2770
02:18:53,560 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 4: We got to go to the Masters. We're going next week.

2771
02:18:55,640 --> 02:18:58,520
Speaker 4: Excited to get down there. Can't wait. We'll be providing

2772
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:02,600
Speaker 4: coverage all week on site. Subscribe to the newsletter pods.

2773
02:19:02,640 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 4: Obviously you'll be humming. I can't wait.

2774
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:08,560
Speaker 6: Got some good content coming too, if you if you're

2775
02:19:08,600 --> 02:19:10,959
Speaker 6: listening to this, there's a there's a big story that

2776
02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:11,920
Speaker 6: we're putting out today.

2777
02:19:12,920 --> 02:19:14,240
Speaker 3: In case we want to hold it back.

2778
02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 6: I won't reveal what it is, but a big profile

2779
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:20,440
Speaker 6: of a contender of the Masters, I think, so yeah,

2780
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:22,840
Speaker 6: excited about that. I hope you'll, hopefully you'll go right

2781
02:19:22,879 --> 02:19:25,640
Speaker 6: from this pod to reading five thousand words about something

2782
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:26,199
Speaker 6: that I wrote.

2783
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:29,280
Speaker 4: So you should, you should be. I know people read

2784
02:19:29,360 --> 02:19:31,600
Speaker 4: less and less, but this is worth your time. It's

2785
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 4: a fabulous, fabulous piece of writing that you put put

2786
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,360
Speaker 4: in the effort for UH to get you in the

2787
02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:39,800
Speaker 4: mood for next week for the Masters. Can't wait to

2788
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:42,160
Speaker 4: get down there. We will talk to you guys on

2789
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 4: Sunday night, Monday morning, probably Sunday night, we'll have the

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Speaker 4: we'll record Sunday, have the pod up Monday, Andy, who knows,

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Speaker 4: maybe in Indianapolis or something, but we'll be. We'll be

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Speaker 4: in augusta next time I'm talking to you, So I

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Speaker 4: can't wait to get to it. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 4: listening to this big flashback Friday edition on Shotguns. Start talk

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Speaker 4: to you next week.