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Speaker 1: They really did. I didn't realize that their defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: And some NFL reporters tweeting out things going on of

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Speaker 1: And listen, this season is going very very poorly. Before

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football, which on paper doesn't look great. Right.

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Speaker 1: million dollars next year, which, listen, ten million dollars a

427
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Speaker 1: lot of money. But when you're the number two overall pick,

428
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: which Shaudor easily could at worst be the number three pick,

429
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Speaker 1: you know you're getting thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven

430
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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed immediately, and your clock starts to sign

431
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Speaker 1: your second contract. But regardless, like everyone's paying attention to this,

432
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Speaker 1: and like I said, the NFL greatly benefits. I'm greatly interested.

433
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch. But this is this is

434
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Speaker 1: money making season for these guys. It's often why you

435
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: know when when guys sit out or don't play in

436
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: the ball game, Well, if you're Caleb Williams and they

437
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs and Caleb sits out the ball game,

438
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: he has nothing to gain. But if you're a fourth

439
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Speaker 1: round pick, if you're a fifth round pick, the way

440
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: you improve your stock, like if you're Bo Nicks, go

441
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Speaker 1: out and make place the games is what you're judged on.

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Speaker 1: That's how you're judged. And I'm fascinated to watch this

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Speaker 1: play out. We've been talking about Sam Hartman, how he's

444
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Speaker 1: gonna look in this spot. It's just it's gonna be fun,

445
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: and college football really matters. What Dion's doing. It is incredible.

446
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: I thought the overreaction to the hit was a little crazy,

447
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Speaker 1: and I thought it was a little disingenuous from some

448
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Speaker 1: of the old school players, who I would say most

449
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: of them were a part on one side or the

450
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: other of just some crazy shit. Right when people say

451
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Speaker 1: things to you and drag your coach through the mud, start,

452
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, belittling your team. Usually in the history of football,

453
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: the football I know, high school, the college to the pros.

454
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: You know, some cheap shots go down. Part of the sport,

455
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: part of the league. This is not European soccer here.

456
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: I mean this football with pads where people are tackled

457
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Speaker 1: to the ground. So was I shocked. Again, I didn't

458
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Speaker 1: see it live. I guess there were some other skirmishes.

459
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: Of course, those guys are gonna draw a line in

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Speaker 1: the sand. This is the sport of football. Cheap shot,

461
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Speaker 1: of course it was. Does the guy needs I mean

462
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Speaker 1: some of these takes. He should be kicked out of football,

463
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: suspended for us. It's like, give me a break. You know,

464
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: he hit him in the hit him in the chest.

465
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Speaker 1: I saw someone retweet the video in the National Championship

466
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Speaker 1: with Florida played Oklahoma, and it's in the Netflix documentary

467
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Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer and Tebow. There is a hit in

468
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Speaker 1: that game where I forget the Florida DB's name. He

469
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: hits the wide receiver so hard I mean could have

470
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Speaker 1: killed him. I can't even imagine if that play happened now,

471
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Speaker 1: all the players from the nineties would want, like college

472
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Speaker 1: football shut down. It's like, guys, half you guys did that?

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Speaker 1: You know, so listen. I never overreact to violence in

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Speaker 1: football or when someone crosses the line. It's nature of

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Speaker 1: the sport. Right. Doesn't mean it's right, but it's part

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Speaker 1: of the deal, and it happens way more than any

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Speaker 1: of us want to admit. I'm just glad that this

478
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Speaker 1: many people have takes on college football and listen. Like

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Speaker 1: the one thing with Dion, he's added an element of

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Speaker 1: just interest. He's made a program that did not matter,

481
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: completely irrelevant. You couldn't have paid anyone to watch Colorado

482
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: Colorado State last year when Carl Durrell and company was

483
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: robbing the university. You know, Carl Durel last year was

484
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: making almost four million dollars. I mean, give me a break.

485
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: You talk about highway robbery. Deon made it not just

486
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Speaker 1: relevant but must watch TV, and it shows you in

487
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Speaker 1: America we love drama, we really do, and we always

488
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Speaker 1: have with television shows, and right now football is the

489
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Speaker 1: number one television show in America. And Dean brought the drama.

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Speaker 1: So whether you hate him, whether you love him, who cares,

491
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Speaker 1: you're interested. And as someone that football pays their bills

492
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Speaker 1: and loves it, I'm glad this many people love the sport,

493
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad there are people like Dion that can

494
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Speaker 1: move the needle and get people interested, right, and I'm

495
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: glad that guys like his son are awesome to watch

496
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: that make it all worthwhile because obviously, without you know,

497
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Speaker 1: the star quarterbacks in college football this year, the ratings

498
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't be as high. Right, if Shador Sanders wasn't any good.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of what Dion said, we wouldn't watch bad football.

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Speaker 1: It's good football. It's very entertaining. It feels like future

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Speaker 1: let's dive in to a little thing we call the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail Bag at John Middleoff is the Instagram fire

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Speaker 1: in those dms. Get your question answered here on the

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Speaker 1: show Like my Man, Joseph love the show. The hell

519
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: is going on with Alan Williams and the Bears? Could

520
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: this lead to full staff changes if the Bears win

521
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: five or less Eberflus has to be fired right. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Man, it's pretty easy to see when

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00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: things are the beginning of the end. I remember, and

524
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't always have to be like the FEDS involved

525
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: in football all. You can't overcome craziness when you're losing,

526
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: and there's always a moment in every I would say

527
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: ten year when it's like, ah, that's the beginning of

528
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: the end. I remember Joe Judge ran quarterback sneak on

529
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: third and seven. You're like, yeah, he's getting fired, that

530
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: that thing's over. And I think with ibra Flus it

531
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: was today the combination of kind of fields melting down,

532
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: which not all his fault, but a coach again, not

533
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: even his fault either, but it does represent something, and

534
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: it's just you. You know, you can't fire the players,

535
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: you can't fire the owner. Someone's got to pay. Huge

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00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: Broncos fan here was at the game for the heartbreaking

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00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: loss to the Commanders, even though we didn't deserve to

538
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: win that game anyway. For the first time in a

539
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: long time, I feel our defense totally let us down.

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00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: I hate Advance Joseph as our head coach a few

541
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Speaker 1: years back and was upset to see him get our

542
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: DC opening. His defense was awful with the Cardinals. Is

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00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: it common? Could you see the Broncos firing him midseason

544
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: and bringing someone else in. I don't remember many guys

545
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: getting fired as a head coach somewhere and then going

546
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: back as a coordinator. I mean, I'm sure it's happened

547
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: before in football, maybe in college, maybe in the pros,

548
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: but I don't remember it off the top of my head.

549
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: And like you said, I always screw up his name.

550
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: But the DC in Carolina, that was your DC last

551
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: year from UC Davis stud I mean, your guys defense

552
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: last year was awesome. That was that was utterly embarrassing. Now.

553
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I know you guys got injuries, but when people don't

554
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: think you're good, you know, as a coordinator, as the

555
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: nexus nose guy like Pat Schrmer, it's like, I don't

556
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: want this guy as my coach, Matt Canada Vance Joseph,

557
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to shake it. It's like, oh, we got smoked,

558
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: but Vic Fangils are defensive coordinator. We're gonna be okay, right.

559
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I think you often lean like everything's gonna be okay

560
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: when you have a guy that has the credibility, when

561
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: the guy lacks the credibility. It's just human nature for

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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: people to pivot. Just in the comments Field's made, and

563
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I have to say I love it. Fields has four

564
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: designated runs on the year, two being sneaks only passed

565
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: from under center twice against Tampa, not moving the pocket,

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00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: not using field strengths, but instead having him sit in

567
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: the pocket with the worst graded interior line. You and

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00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Colin always talk about how important coaching is, and currently,

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Speaker 1: beyond Field's flaws, he's not been given a chance to

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Speaker 1: grow play to his strengths. I still believe in him,

571
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: but if we move on and keep the coaching staff,

572
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: it won't matter. If we get Caleb Williams, we'll run

573
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Speaker 1: him into the ground too. Our head coach can't get

574
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Speaker 1: the defense right. Our OC gets laughed at by everyone

575
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: who breaks down the Bears film. Just give Fields a

576
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Speaker 1: fighting chance. Here's where I'm gonna push back on that

577
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: is I remember last year, in the last two years

578
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: when when Trey Lance was a rookie, Kyle Shanahan basically

579
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: scrapped his offense and ran the zone read power running

580
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: game the whole game, and a lot I think Trey

581
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: Lance had like seventeen carries people like they're gonna run

582
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Speaker 1: him into the ground, let him pass. It's like, well, can't.

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Speaker 1: So it's like part of this. You're right, if you

584
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: just wanted to win a given week, just run them, right,

585
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: just run quarterback powers, run boots and waggles, tell him

586
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: scramble NonStop. But you want to find out if the

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: guy's that he good as a passer. Right, Even when

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00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Lamar and their offense was very collegiate, I haven't quote

589
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: unquote broken down the film but really locked in on

590
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens offense, they still show signs of previous years.

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00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: But Lamar always proved like he was very capable passing

592
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: the ball. He was actually much better to me as

593
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: a thrower in the pros than he was in college.

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: To me, fields, I have to see if he can

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Speaker 1: do that. Like the reason Kyle Shanahan got off Trey Lance,

596
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: he didn't think he could throw. So this team, they

597
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: can't benchfields, they don't have any other anyone else, they

598
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: don't have any other options, and you have to just

599
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: see if he can figure it out. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine they'll just run a very remedial playbook.

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00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: But what does that tell you that's not sustainable? What

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00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: do you do after the season. Let's say you win

603
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: an extra game because of it, so instead of winning

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00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: three games, you win four and he runs for a

605
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: bunch of yards. He was doing that last year and

606
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: you were losing all the time. Now, I'm not defending

607
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: eber Flus's defense. It's embarrassing, but offensively, I gotta find

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00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: out if the guy can throw, if I'm gonna make

609
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: him my long term quarter this year three. It's not

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Speaker 1: year one. Like I understand the Colts running around Anthony

611
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Richton a lot. He's a rookie, right, he can't really

612
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Speaker 1: throw yet. Hopefully in a couple of years he develops that.

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Speaker 1: But by year three, I'm gonna have to see him

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Speaker 1: make some plays in the pocket. Because if you can't

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Speaker 1: make plays in the pocket, I can't have you as

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Speaker 1: my quarterback. So if I can't have you as my quarterback,

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00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I have to know for sure, And you could argue

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00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: we already know, but I don't totally blame them for

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00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: wanting to figure that out. Charge your fan here, do

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Speaker 1: you have any insider connections on what it will take

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Speaker 1: to fire stately? Are you going to have to wait

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Speaker 1: till the end of the season when they do inevitably fire.

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone they could would hire. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Charger fans online are talking about Harbaugh, but that feels

625
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: too good to be true. There was an internet rumor

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Speaker 1: which I can't substantiate it, neither can anybody, but we

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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: all love a good internet rumor that the Chargers and

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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh have already spoken. Obviously, if you could hire

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, which you could, if you offered him the job,

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Speaker 1: that would be a no brainer. It'd be an enormous upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's not cheap, like, he's not taking your job

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Speaker 1: for ten million. He's probably fifteen to eighteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: at four or five years, So it's a sixty to

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Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar commitment. And I say it all

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Speaker 1: the time. Cheapness is a disease, and your owner has it.

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Speaker 1: And paying the players is easy. It's all monopoly money.

637
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Paying the coaches, like if you get a seven million

638
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: dollar coach instead of a fifteen million dollar coach, it's

639
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: eight extra million in your pocket. So I would expect

640
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore to be the coach. That'd be my guess.

641
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: And I expect we'll talk about this probably on Thursday's pod.

642
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: But if you guys lose the Vikings, I think there's

643
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: a real chance Day gets fired and then they basically

644
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: just give Kellen Moore the job and it's essentially a

645
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: job interview for what amounts to what fourteen games. I

646
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: think that's on the table. A Daily listener quick question,

647
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: who would you put in the flex spot? Collins from

648
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Houston or Zach Moss. It's a good question. I have shit,

649
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Seems like kind of shitty flex options.

650
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even a fantasy football player. A lot of

651
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: questions about fields throwing guys under the bus. We kind

652
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: of already answered that. From a scouts perspective, how much

653
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson's struggles are from being almost two years

654
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: away from football. I find it hard to believe Mahomes

655
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: could miss the next twenty five games and just come

656
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: back to football and be anything other than a bottom quarterback.

657
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: He gets a lot of criticism, rightfully so, but I

658
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: find it completely unreasonable to think he could be a

659
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: top half quarterback this season. To me, it's just unrealistic. Well,

660
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: if that's true, that's a major problem, right, I gave

661
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: him last year like whatever he had been away the

662
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: previous year, he missed whatever, eleven games. I wasn't eve

663
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna count the last five games that he played meant

664
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: nothing to me, honestly, didn't. I do think you get

665
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: a full off season, you get some games under your belt.

666
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Last year. My expectations were not for him to be

667
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: a star, but to be much better than he's looked

668
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: to me, Like, I saw a guy that looked kind

669
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: of clueless the other night, running into sacks inaccurate, just

670
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't look like a good player. I mean, he's paid

671
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty nine million dollars. So when you give

672
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: a guy that much money, I've said it over and over,

673
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: you have to have him be I don't know, top

674
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: six quarterback, and he doesn't even feel remotely close to that.

675
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: I also would disagree. If Mahomes missed a year and

676
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a half, I do think he would look better than that.

677
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Would he be the number one quarterback? No, it would

678
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: take a little while. I remember Colin had a take

679
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: on John Gruden when John Gruden came back to the

680
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Raiders that it was impossible to sit out in a

681
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: competitive industry for that long and not come back and struggle,

682
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: and he was right, and you could argue athletics is

683
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: very similar. You know, most buildings when you walk into

684
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: an equipment in equipment room slash locker room, have something

685
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: somewhere that says you're either getting better or getting worse.

686
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: Nobody stays the same because it is true like if

687
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: you're just staying stagnant, and obviously if you're not playing football,

688
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: you get passed by other people. And so clearly he

689
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't improve for two years, so he's gotten worse. Hell

690
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: I saw it with Nick Bosa, right like at the

691
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: end of the last year. You like Nick Bosa, Tjwatt,

692
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: Michah Parsons, all similar dominant defensive players. One guy doesn't

693
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: play any football because he's holding out until week one.

694
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: The other two guys are getting locked and loaded all

695
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: training camp. They both come out they have like twenty

696
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: five combined sacks through two games. And Nick Bosa it

697
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: wasn't until to me, like the second half of the

698
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: Rams game where he started to show some signs of life,

699
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: which understandable he wasn't playing any football. And trust me,

700
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: I've been a Niners practice, not even like Nick does

701
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: that much of practice in terms of like when he's

702
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: ready for the season, but at least he's taking some

703
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: reps so you can't not play. I hear you on

704
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: that one. Recently started my own podcast with an emphasis

705
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: on bring on players, coaches, and personalities to talk about

706
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: their careers, and I wanted to reach out and see

707
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: if you'd be interested in coming on. I know how

708
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: often about your time as a scout on your show.

709
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I'd like the opportunity to discuss Yeah, fire in my

710
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: fire in my email. I think I have my email

711
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: on my Twitter account. I just I would say it, yes,

712
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: just on my Twitter account. We'll see if we can

713
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: make something happen. Hey, John, it seems like the Chiefs

714
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: muff a punt at least every other game, or at

715
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: least enough where I cringe every time I see the

716
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: punt return try and field the ball. Since seventeen slash eighteen,

717
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: they are constantly cycling different returners throughout the season, but

718
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: none seem to really work out. Would it be outrageous

719
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to not have a returner back there

720
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and just let the opposing team punt the ball and

721
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: down the ball? Love the podcast, I would say yeah,

722
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, because one worst case scenario, you just

723
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: have a guy fair catch every punt unless it's you

724
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: know he's gonna catch it like the five yard line,

725
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: because if you could fair catch the ball at the

726
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: sixteen yard line, you don't want it to bounce and

727
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: then be able to down it at the two yard line.

728
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: So you want a returner back there at minimum just

729
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: to fair catch the ball. You know, the high percentage

730
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: of times he can do that to potentially stop them

731
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: from downing it within the five. Your return man is

732
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: very predicated on the receiving group. I guess occasionally you

733
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: will have a d they can do it, but remember

734
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill could do it and was awesome, and then

735
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: he became Tyreek Hill and you're like, you can't put

736
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: him back there. Same thing when I was with Philly

737
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: with DeShawn Jackson. Once you become so good, I can't

738
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: risk you getting injured there. And usually the drop off

739
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: between the guy who's the best at it on your

740
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: team and the next guy is pretty substantial. And then

741
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: you try to battle like can we get a guy

742
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: who's just your returner? Will Canny play on offense? And

743
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. I say this all the time, like, oh,

744
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: we don't our DB's aren't any good. Well, if you

745
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: have one good corner, you're ahead of the game. Most

746
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: teams don't have two good starting corners, right, So it's like,

747
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: I guess, in a roundabout way, it's somewhat of a luxury.

748
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Now I hear you muffing them punts not ideal. You

749
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: have one of the better special teams coaches in the league.

750
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine you'll eventually get a punt returner my

751
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: obviously probably won't be this year, but you'll hit on

752
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: one in the draft sooner or later. Question for the

753
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: everyone is talking about what if Caleb Williams refuses to

754
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: go to the Cards, but no one is talking about

755
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: what that means for Kyler Murray. Will they just cut him?

756
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: Trade him? His contract is massive? What happens to Kyler Murray?

757
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: His work ethic is on record for not being great,

758
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: but he's super talented quarterback. At the end of the day,

759
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: I saw a headline to day on Pro Football Talk

760
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: that he's itching to get back. And remember Michael Lombardi

761
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: talked about this that the way his contract is set up,

762
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: they could get out of it for a lot less

763
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: guaranteed if he's not injured. If he is injured, the

764
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: guaranteed money that they would owe him basically doubles. I

765
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: think it goes from like fifty to ninety plus million

766
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: dollars because most contracts are split between performance and injury guarantees.

767
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: So it's something to keep an eye on. To me,

768
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: there's a rubber meet the Road meets the Road moment

769
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray and the Cardinals when he claims I'm

770
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: fully healthy and a doctor gives him the full bill

771
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: of health that he is cleared to play football. Do

772
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: they play him? I don't see how they don't, And

773
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: if they do not, that becomes one of the bigger

774
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: stories in the league because they basically are admitting they're

775
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: done with them. And then he essentially goes on the

776
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: trading block, which would kick in. You know, he wouldn't

777
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: get traded this season, but he I guess he could,

778
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: but he would definitely get traded to me next whatever.

779
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys get traded before free

780
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: agency opens March fifteenth, so you get trading you know,

781
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: combine sometime in mid to late February early March, and

782
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: I think it would mark the end of his short

783
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: tenure in Arizona. But I'm with you, he's not my

784
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: cup of tea and that clause in the contract is

785
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: probably something you'll never see again. But when he is right,

786
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: he is pretty good. He's not like top five good,

787
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: but he's He's somewhere like seven eight nine, like that

788
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: dude can sling. Now. I got a lot of question

789
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: marks on him. Obviously, he has a torn acl he

790
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: is small, He's been basically broken down two years in

791
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: a row, late in the season, even before the injury

792
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: last year, and then, like you said, some of the

793
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: off the field stuff now they have gone over the

794
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: top saying he's a different guy. They named him a captain,

795
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: which my spidy senses went off to me. You name

796
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: him a captain because you're trying to get him to

797
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: look better, which is the smart move. You want his

798
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: perception around the league to increase. Longtime listener question for

799
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: the mailbag. You talked about Najee Harris Briefly. I went

800
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: to high school with the guy, and he was an

801
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: absolute monster in high school and at Bama. You mentioned

802
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: him not being very good player, totally warranted, as he's

803
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: had a rough past two seasons. My question is you

804
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: think the amount of carries that he put on his

805
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: body over six seven year span is already starting to

806
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: break down his body because the Steelers on line is

807
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: absolutely horseshit. Or do you think he's really just not

808
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: that good personally. I think Matt Canada hasn't done him

809
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: any favors. With the scheme they try to run. It's

810
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: basically just inside handoffs up the gut, no holes to

811
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: run through, no creativity in the offense. I like this guy,

812
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: guys from Antioch Pittsburgh High School. I think is where

813
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: you guys went to high school. I also followed his

814
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: high school career and when he went to Alabama was

815
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: a really big deal. One thing when he got there.

816
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: Someone told me about him, because you're right, he was

817
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: a superstar in high school. I mean easily. I don't

818
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: know what his graduating class was in high school, but

819
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: he was. I don't know if he was a number

820
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: one player in California, but he was a top five

821
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: player in California. Obviously, go to Alabama from you know, Antioch, California.

822
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Someone around the BAMA program told me the first year

823
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: they saw him, they're like one thing that happens sometimes

824
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: is Alabama is a guy that is so physically dominant

825
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: relative to his appears in high school that Nick ends

826
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: up getting And then he got to school, he actually

827
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: wasn't that good till really his senior year. That senior

828
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: year was when it was like, okay, this guy's a

829
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: legitimate NFL running back. He had moments throughout his college career,

830
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: but I think he took a dramatic jump that last

831
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: year in school. But early on when he got in

832
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: the program, someone's like, you know, he's just bigger than

833
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I'm just not sure how

834
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: instinctive he is. And that's something that you've seen in

835
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: the pros. Instincts as a runner, it to me is

836
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: like the number one trait of running back needs because

837
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: you actually don't need top end speed. That's a huge luxury.

838
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, big small like running backs come in all

839
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. There is an instinctive just I would

840
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: say that, and corner like instincts is such a huge

841
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: part of your game. Obviously, as a runner, you're constantly

842
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to make guys miss holes open up for split seconds.

843
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: You have to know when to hit him, when to

844
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: bounce it. It's something you can't really teach once you

845
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: get to a certain level. And when I watch him,

846
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: I just don't see that instinctive of a player. Most

847
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: of the great running backs are instinctive players. Like you

848
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Speaker 1: watch Nick Chubb, you watch Christian McCaffrey. I remember Frank

849
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Speaker 1: Gore forever, who did not have the physical skills of

850
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys, but he was so good at

851
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of feeling his way around. You don't have to

852
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: be lightning fast. You have to be quick, and you

853
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: have to be deliberate, but you don't need to like

854
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's home run. Hitting speed was a luxury. It's

855
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: what made him a superstar. But what made him a

856
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: great player was the power of the ability to get downhill.

857
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: In his instincts right now, he could get by. I

858
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say his instincts were like Barry Sanders or Shady McCoy,

859
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: but his physical prowess was so elite. You watched Nause

860
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: like his physical prowess. He's big, but he's not that

861
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Speaker 1: quick relative to NFL players, which is why I think

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Speaker 1: they like the other guy. The Jets have a quarterback issue.

863
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Wilson isn't gonna get the job done. Would the Cowboys

864
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: backup Cooper Rush fit the Jets? Has anyone considered this

865
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: Rush proved last year he can win football games. If

866
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Speaker 1: the Jets traded for Rush, what would he be worth

867
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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys a fourth round pick? I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine you're a Jets fan and it feels,

869
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Speaker 1: uh now, it looks like a Dallas Cowboy fan. I

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Speaker 1: you know, my overall take would be this is you're

871
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of screwed. You really are. There's just not much

872
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: you can do. There really isn't there's nothing you can do.

873
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: You're just kind of screwed. Adding Cooper Rush doesn't do much.

874
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't change anything. It just doesn't, you know. And

875
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I like what I saw out of Cooper Rush. But

876
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Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick like now, you could argue,

877
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Speaker 1: you're desperate, you're trying to win. Why wouldn't you want

878
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: to add a quarterback if you can. We doesn't know

879
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: the offense he's coming in mid season. The offensive line

880
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: is not great. I don't know. I hear what you're saying,

881
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: and you gotta think outside the box. I think it's

882
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: kind of irrelevant. Someone just texts me Cam Akers traded

883
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings. With what seems like more legit quarterbacks coming

884
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: into the draft every year compared to five or ten

885
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: years ago, do you think the NFL will ever see

886
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: a time where every team has a legit starting, enfranchise

887
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: quarterback and there won't be any room for the next

888
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: round of college quarterbacks to become a starter in their

889
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: first year and we'll have to wait a few years

890
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: before playing. I think we're a long way away from that,

891
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: because just because you're a great player in college, justin fields,

892
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: does not mean that it's gonna translate to the NFL.

893
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: So as awesome as all these quarterback prospects look, clearly, Caleb,

894
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Drake May, Penix, Bo Nicks, Sam Hartman, the Duke Guy,

895
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard, Dudes everywhere, the percentage of those guys to

896
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: become good NFL quarterbacks we know is low. Like the

897
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: chance that any of those guys become Mahomes. Whoever right

898
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: is slim the nut. Let's say Caleb hits, he lives

899
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: up to the hype, becomes Trevor Lawrence, Andrew luck right

900
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: becomes Mahomes Josh Allen type. Let's say Drake May is

901
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: solid and he's like Dak Prescott. That would be a

902
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback draft, and the other guys end up being backups.

903
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: The likelihood that all these guys are as good as

904
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: we think they'll be never happens. It's why I think

905
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing for just a draft.

906
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: Every guy that's drafted, let's just pick the top fifteen picks.

907
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: The excitement level from those fan You know, if you're

908
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: a fan of that team that took the guy is

909
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: through the roof. Get a wide receiver, get a pass rusher,

910
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, get an offensive lineman. We know half

911
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: those guys don't cut it, aren't good enough, never make

912
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, never sniff a Pro Bowl, don't get

913
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: a second contract with that team, don't get their fifth

914
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: year option picked up. So quarterbacks aren't any different than

915
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: the other positions that listen. I'm as high on this

916
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: class as anybody. You just watch college football. They all

917
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: look high end prospects. I mean they look awesome, all

918
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: of them, big arms, athletic, you know, explosive players, make

919
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: explosive plays, instinctive, accurate. I mean, you can't watch any

920
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: of them play. Oh my god, I think this guy's

921
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: an NFL starter. But that's how most prospects are. They

922
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: get drafted and half of them don't turn out to

923
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: be that great. So, like, think about some of the

924
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: guys holding onto their career right now. Baker Mayfield, do

925
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: you know good? That guy wasn't in college? Remember Baker

926
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma for three straight years? It was stupid. How

927
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: awesome the guy was, it was crazy. I mean Justin

928
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: Fields lit up Clemson when they were good. It's very,

929
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: very difficult. And just because you kick ass in college

930
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: that there is no guarantee that you're gonna kick ass

931
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Speaker 1: in the pros. It's what makes this whole thing fun, right,

932
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: because there is unknown. We think we're excited they're gonna

933
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: get drafted high, but there is no guarantee they're gonna

934
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: be good, and then when they're not good, it becomes

935
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Speaker 1: a huge story like Trey Lance or Justin Fields, Zach Wilson. Right,

936
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: they actually are much more of the rule than the exception,

937
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: which is My Homes or Josh Allen. Most guys are

938
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Speaker 1: averaged to below because it's so hard to play in

939
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's so much more difficult than college. Even

940
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: if you play Georgia. The last couple of years a

941
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: bad example because every guy's in an NFL player. But

942
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Speaker 1: if you play, you know, an average just the top

943
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: twenty team, they might have three pros on defense. Let's

944
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Speaker 1: say a really good defense has four or five pros. Well,

945
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: not all those guys are first or second rounders. Some

946
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Speaker 1: of those guys might be like four fifths six rounders.

947
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Speaker 1: Some of those guys might be lifetime backups in the NFL. So, yeah,

948
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Speaker 1: they're pros, but they're not even starting defensive players. That

949
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: the cream rises, the fact gets trimmed. In the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's way faster, it's way more complicated and complex in

951
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: terms of schemes. It's just more difficult, it really is.

952
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: So I hear what you're saying, and logically, the way

953
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about these players not a crazy thing

954
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: to ask, but in reality and the history of the

955
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: league would tell us that's just never going to be

956
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: a problem. And if it is, it'd be crazy. It

957
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: would actually be the wildest story we've ever seen. It'd

958
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: be nuts. If I would say twenty of the thirty

959
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: two teams had like sweet quarterbacks. I mean, how many

960
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: teams right now would consider their quarterback like high end

961
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Speaker 1: probably under thirteen under twelve and I think we're going

962
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Speaker 1: through a pretty good quarterback era. It shows you how

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Speaker 1: difficult this thing is. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a good week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back after Thursday night football and yeah, talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon. Phil the volume