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Speaker 2: us to Physic five in about twenty minutes. But there

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Speaker 2: was earlier news today that I just can't ignore and

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Speaker 2: I have to address it. And it reminds me of

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Speaker 2: a story about a coach who got his dream job

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Speaker 2: as a head football coach at a major university, and

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Speaker 2: the athletic director told them, inside your desk, in the

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Speaker 2: top drawer on the left hand side, there are three envelopes,

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Speaker 2: but don't open any of those envelopes unless you have

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Speaker 2: a bad season. So, sure enough, the first season rolls around.

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Speaker 2: It was a disaster. They're one and eleven. He opens

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Speaker 2: up the first envelope and it says blame the tough schedule.

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Speaker 2: Season two rolls around, not much better. They're three and nine.

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Speaker 2: He opens up the second envelope and it says, blame

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Speaker 2: the assistance. Third season rolls around, and it's not much better.

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Speaker 2: They're three and nine again, and he opens up the

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Speaker 2: third envelope and it simply says, prepare three envelopes. Coaches

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Speaker 2: are hired, they're fired, they're rehired, and hope springs eternal.

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Speaker 2: And perhaps that's the case for the Pittsburgh Steelers who

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Speaker 2: hired Mike McCarthy, who I admittedly have not necessarily treated fairly,

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Speaker 2: but I've reacted to his odd ball decisions and demeanor

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Speaker 2: and juxtaposed against expectations, his image, his perception, McCarthy's track

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Speaker 2: eckord to me suggests he's not going to be the

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Speaker 2: guy to modernized Pittsburgh's approach or their scheme or game management.

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Speaker 2: And if this decision sets the stage so that Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: perhaps can run it back one more year with the

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Speaker 2: same roster, including one more year with Aaron Rodgers, why

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Speaker 2: do you expect a different result. McCarthy had primetime Rogers

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Speaker 2: for a decade. They did win one Super Bowl, so

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Speaker 2: it feels like Pittsburgh's kicking the can down the road.

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Speaker 2: A very prominent NFL writer who I respect a lot,

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Speaker 2: gave the grade a D plus, a deep plus hire.

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Speaker 2: But what I find interesting, and this is why I

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Speaker 2: wanted to just get this out of the way tonight,

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Speaker 2: is because other writers who I also respect, gave the

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Speaker 2: John Harball hiring an A. Now, when I look at Harball,

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Speaker 2: he's polished. He's loaded with cliches and platitudes, and seems

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Speaker 2: to smile and say all the right things. And I

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Speaker 2: know I'm in the minority, but I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna do anything in New York. I know Harball is

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Speaker 2: gonna win in New York, and I mean win, win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. No, I don't even think you'll get

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Speaker 2: doing an NFC Conference championship game. We'll see what he does.

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Speaker 2: But herein lies the essence of where I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: go with this old Michi gos Mike McCarthy and John Harball. Well,

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Speaker 2: if results matter to you, I'm the same guy. The

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Speaker 2: numbers don't lie. Harball has a slightly better career winning

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Speaker 2: percentage and what couple more total wins. McCarthy has a

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Speaker 2: higher number of regular season wins, both have won won

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Let's just take a look at it real quickly.

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Speaker 2: They've both John Harbaugh and Mike McCarthy have both coached

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Speaker 2: eighteen years. They both have endured in the National Football

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Speaker 2: League as a head coach for eighteen seasons. McCarthy with

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Speaker 2: Green Bay and Dallas, of course, and John Harbory the

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Speaker 2: entire tenure with the Ravens, who took over a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame roster and Ozzie k Newson, one of the

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Speaker 2: best talent evaluators in the history of the NFL and

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Speaker 2: a stable front office. His career regular season record one

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Speaker 2: eighty and one thirteen for a six to fourteen winning percentage. Well,

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's winning percentage of six awake, won seventy four

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Speaker 2: game apart. They both went to won Super Bowl. McCarthy

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Speaker 2: actually won eight division titles. John Harball's won six division titles,

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Speaker 2: So both coaches have very similar career records for their

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Speaker 2: Harball smiles, he's polished, full of cliches and platitudes. McCarthy

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Speaker 2: called him Barney Rubble his game management, time clock management.

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Speaker 2: But it is a Pittsburgh guy, so I think he's

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what we say tonight. It matters what

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Speaker 2: next year and beyond. I'm of the prediction neither one

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Speaker 2: I thought I would just get that michigous out of

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Speaker 2: the way. It is a bit of a bittersweet weekend.

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Speaker 2: We're down to three games left in the NFL. There's

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Speaker 2: been lots of storylines. I think it's I think this

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Speaker 2: year it's been a coaches has stolen the spotlight in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, look at Denver and Sean Payton. After

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Speaker 2: six straight losing seasons. Peyton comes in, gets the Broncos

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Speaker 2: the AFC number one seed, got them off life support

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Speaker 2: and by the way, not for nothing a storyline that

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Speaker 2: will develop. Of course, Denver has to win Sunday. Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton is bucking to become the only NFL coach in

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Speaker 2: history to win the Super Bowl with two different teams.

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Speaker 2: Just tuck that away in your pipe and smoke it. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: you know, Mike Vrabel, he completely revived the Patriots. They

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Speaker 2: were four and thirteen last year. They were on our

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Speaker 2: short list. Was right about that one. I was dead

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Speaker 2: wrong about Arizona. As teams that might go from lash

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Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and happened twice in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Give Rabel a lot of credit. And how about Sean

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Speaker 2: McVay Again, he continues to raise the bar he faces

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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, the counterpart who many really sort of consider

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Speaker 2: the Sean McVay of defense. They're both under forty I believe,

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Speaker 2: But I have to double check that, and they've done

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Speaker 2: well in grooming coaches there, you know, Clint Kubiak Krishula,

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get to that in depth because

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of interesting storylines and sort of

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Speaker 2: attributes surrounding the game that I find interesting. The Broncos,

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Speaker 2: in case you missed it, they own the best all

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Speaker 2: time win percentage in conference title games in NFL history

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Speaker 2: eight hundred. By the way, they're eighteen and five at

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Speaker 2: home all time in the playoffs. And I know you

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Speaker 2: can say, well a lot of those were l Way

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Speaker 2: teams and et cetera, et cetera. That's true, but guess what,

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Speaker 2: every one of those games in Denver were played two

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty feet above sea level. And that ain't easy.

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Speaker 2: Jared fit did him. That's become a storyline. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, full disclosure, full DRAMs paracy. Earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: I grabbed Denver plus the four and a half points.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to be a very tough out Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And I think the last time jareds Didham did start

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Speaker 2: They lost to the Niners that day thirty seven to

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Speaker 2: through for three hundred and sixty five yards and three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: See how Dual brock perty he can play. He hasn't

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Speaker 2: had a chance to prove it. And I'm told by

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Speaker 2: people who are in the know that the quarterback competition

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Speaker 2: in Denver was so close Steadham actually could have won it,

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Speaker 2: or maybe even did win it, but not buy enough

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Speaker 2: of a margin that he would start over bow Knicks.

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Speaker 2: That's who they wanted to go with. And it's all

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Speaker 2: go into the history of NFL backup quarterbacks in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and you can do with that what you will. But

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Speaker 2: let's be fair here. Jared Stidham's going to face a

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Speaker 2: New England defense that so far in the playoffs has

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Speaker 2: only allowed one touchdown if garnered, nine sacks, sixty seven pressures,

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Speaker 2: and six takeaways. And meanwhile, that I mentioned the Patriots

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Speaker 2: are eight to no on the road this season. However,

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Speaker 2: the home team in the AFC championship game in the

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Speaker 2: last twelve years is nine to three. I think we

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Speaker 2: are in for a treat on Sunday. That game kicks

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Speaker 2: the Rams in Seattle, and I know everybody up there

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Speaker 2: because they're afraid about whether or not Sam Donald might

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Speaker 2: throw some picks. And frankly, look, that narrative just isn't

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Speaker 2: I like Sam Donald. The one thing that has merit

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Speaker 2: though in terms of people being nervous about Sam is

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Speaker 2: that he's one of three against the Rams. And Rams

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Speaker 2: safety Cam Curl popped off this last week in an

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Speaker 2: interview saying, we know we're in his head, you know

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Speaker 2: Seahawks miss Matt Sharberney. He was terrific and stellar around

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Speaker 2: are the only the only road team to win in

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Speaker 2: the divisional round, This too should be a fistfight in

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Speaker 2: a phone booth and very close. Neither team is lost.

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Speaker 2: seven points. Meanwhile, the Seahawks have won seven in a row.

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Speaker 2: So when you add it up, the home field advantage

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Speaker 2: Seattle is legendary. Loomenfield is so loud it makes your

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Speaker 2: teeth itch. It's ridiculous. The Rams offense, though, which has

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Speaker 2: number one scoring offense against the number one scoring defense

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, the number one scoring defense typically prevails.

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Speaker 2: The Rams, by the way, now are healthier than in

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Speaker 2: their most recent meeting. They still got five hundred yards

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Speaker 2: of offense without DeVante Adams, so we'll see how having

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams in the lineup makes a difference. Patriots Broncos again,

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Speaker 2: home field advantage significant. Broncos are the league's best home

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Speaker 2: team this season nine to one, a mile high six

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Speaker 2: and one home AFC championships, And again I want to

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Speaker 2: emphasize this. You can brush away that history, you can

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Speaker 2: imply that it's not necessarily relevant. Irrevelant, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: try that again in English relevant, But it is because

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Speaker 2: all those games were played two and eighty feet above

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Speaker 2: sea level. Again healthy well, Harold Landry, the pass rusher

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Speaker 2: for who led the Pats with eight and a half

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Speaker 2: if he's gonna play. JK. Dobbins is not gonna play.

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Speaker 2: That's what I hear. He's not gonna play. One of

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Speaker 2: the matchups to watch because Will Campbell, the sixth overall

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Speaker 2: May's been sacked ten times and fueled six times. In

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Speaker 2: two strip sacks. And he'll go up against Bronco's edge

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Speaker 2: rusher Nick Benito tomorrow Saturday Sunday. So that is going

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Speaker 2: think they're gonna force stid him to beat him and

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Speaker 2: Well, fans, well, welcome in a couple of big games

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, and let me start with this. We have

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Speaker 6: I too, grabb Denver plus the four and a half

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Speaker 6: I think too much. There is uncertainty with Stidham and

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, because had that not happened,

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Speaker 6: With the altitude, the bottom line, Denver would have.

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Speaker 2: Been a very tiny favorite, says I do think that

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Speaker 6: Well, well, people are in the world enough to remember

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Speaker 6: Bernie like the drive and the fumble, and for years

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Speaker 6: The book on Denver was you'd have a team that

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Speaker 6: I could certainly see a game where New England completely

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things you know, when you handicap,

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Speaker 6: Denver sacks the dropping quarterback once every ten times they

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Speaker 6: So I think that New England is going to try,

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Speaker 6: I really think knowing it's going to keep it simple

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Speaker 6: I think so. I mean Denver's protected their quarterback all

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Speaker 6: think that they're going to be very conservative and not

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Speaker 6: But I certainly could favor the first half going under

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Speaker 6: also see I played Bernie, I played punts. I played

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Speaker 6: punts over seven and a half. I think if either

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you playing any props on Jared Stidham,

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Speaker 6: I have not yet, although I think I would look

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Speaker 6: you know, as far as just completions also going over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some people I trustin you're one of them, believe

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Speaker 2: that the best prop bet is Jared Stidham over thirty

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Speaker 6: I think that that is a good investment. And you know,

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Speaker 6: So gamescript, you could just steal it with one drive

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Speaker 2: With Steve pick physic five. By the way, Faz, we

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Speaker 2: all know he has to start the game since January

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Speaker 2: first to twenty twenty three. It happened to be here

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Speaker 2: is underrated. Any other props you like in the Denver

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Speaker 6: Game, so I think I went through them all. So

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Speaker 6: punts over seven and a half, first half under twenty

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Speaker 6: one and a half, I like your Spindham over thirty

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Speaker 6: Denver at plus four or.

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Speaker 2: Higher, New England eight and No. One on the road.

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Speaker 2: We'll see on Sunday. And by the way, if not

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Speaker 2: for nothing Fizz, as you know, the home team in

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game last twelve years, nine to three

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Speaker 2: straight up, so that may bold well for our bet.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go Rams, Seattle Rams the only road

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Speaker 2: team to win the divisional round. I have not touched

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Speaker 2: Gun to my head, I would probably like Seattle on

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Speaker 6: I do have to address like you talked about the

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Speaker 6: AFC title game. I hate trend like that. It's like,

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Speaker 2: Now, yes, yeah, I'll tell you why. If it is,

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Speaker 2: How many times are they the home you follow me?

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Speaker 6: So it is one hundred percent agree that the NFC

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Speaker 6: and those are the two best teams. But my point

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Speaker 6: it's the conference championship. If it's an af C check

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Speaker 6: conference championship, the home field means more than if it's

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Speaker 6: people never talked about this. Perty home field is worth

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Speaker 6: it's got to apply to both conferences equally. I don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair out of context, that's fair, But I

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Speaker 2: not for nothing, Fizz, the Rams are playing their seventh

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Speaker 2: road game in nine weeks. How does that factor into

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Speaker 6: Seattle Wow It's such a good spot for Seattle, isn't it?

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Speaker 6: Because Seattle they've been home since January fourth, and they

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Speaker 6: played three quarters of football because they really didn't have

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Speaker 6: to do anything at all in the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 6: they had to buy and they got to play on

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Speaker 6: Saturday and now Sundays. So now they've had eight days off.

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Speaker 6: So if you're a situational handicapper, you are betting Seattle.

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Speaker 6: If you're a power rating guy, you got two pretty

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Speaker 6: darn equal teams when home fields just not worth that

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Speaker 6: much in the visional game, and you're going to look

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Speaker 6: towards the Rams and the points. I can make cases

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Speaker 6: for both these teams. You know the song video killed

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Speaker 6: the radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, of course, so.

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Speaker 6: Betting exchange killed the advantage NFL betting. So you can

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Speaker 6: play either one of these teams at the point spread

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Speaker 6: of two and a half, Bernie, I can lay minus

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Speaker 6: one on one on the Rams, or I can lay

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Speaker 6: minus one on one on Seattle. Okay, so I must

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Speaker 6: be this. You know what if I can lay minus

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Speaker 6: one on one, imagine if I had an edge playing

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Speaker 6: either one of those bets at minus one ten? Why

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Speaker 6: should be betting tens of thousands? Of dollars at minus

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Speaker 6: one oh one because my edge, my ROI, if you will,

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Speaker 6: would be like over four percent. Guess what it isn't

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Speaker 6: bottom line is this line I do believe is pretty

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Speaker 6: much approximately right. You know what? Because of that, I

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Speaker 6: like the teaser on the Rams. I think it'll be

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Speaker 6: a close game. But now here's the dilemma. Though, I

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Speaker 6: got nothing to marr with. So if you've got a book,

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Speaker 6: some books, they'll let you have an open spot. Go

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Speaker 6: ahead and play the Rams with an open spot. But

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Speaker 6: now here's the dilemma. You may not have a good

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Speaker 6: teaser for the Super Bowl, so you might have to

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Speaker 6: hold that open spot for like seven months until the

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Speaker 6: preseason starts.

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Speaker 2: Well, all good stuff. One thing to watch the Rams

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Speaker 2: are found of their run game with Karen Williams and

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Speaker 2: Blake Korum. Seattle has been deadly against the run this

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Speaker 2: year through eighteen games. No running back his rush for

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Speaker 2: more than ninety yards against the Seahawks, and so that

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Speaker 2: could present a problem for the Rams. I know mattch

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Speaker 2: to Africa, get careless. I believe me. I was Air Detroit.

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Speaker 2: I can't get past Detroit, Matt and the notion that

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Speaker 2: he never had any help was hogwash. There were plenty

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Speaker 2: of good teams he was on with Calvin Johnson and

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Speaker 2: Dominicans to the number three defense back in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: But I digress. Which quarterback do you trust more? Sunday?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I trust Stafford, just I don't trust Darnold, especially

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Speaker 6: with an oblique injury. Drake May that was a I mean,

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Speaker 6: that was an s show. What the way he was

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Speaker 6: holding the ball and fumbling, you know, as he was running.

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Speaker 6: And I don't we love our old movies. So Stidham

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Speaker 6: grade point average, zero point zero, All previous results incomplete.

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Speaker 2: Right, All right, let's get to brass tacks as well.

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Speaker 2: Does anything catch your fancy with respect to props in

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Speaker 2: the Rams Seattle game?

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Speaker 6: So, the Seattle is very good at limiting big plays,

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Speaker 6: and the Rams love to run that three tight end offense.

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Speaker 6: And I think they got a little bit too tricky

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Speaker 6: trying to throw the ball downfield unsuccessfully against the Bear.

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Speaker 6: So I see the Rams from matriculating on their drives

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Speaker 6: and going with the three tight ends, Higbe has kind

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Speaker 6: of fallen out of favor, all right, and so you

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Speaker 6: got two other tight ends, Ferguson and Parkinson exactly. But Parkinson,

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Speaker 6: for whatever reason, I don't know why, he has become

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Speaker 6: more of the guy that's getting the most routes run.

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Speaker 6: So he's the guy personally bet over two and a

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Speaker 6: half catches. You know, his pass yards is up to

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Speaker 6: like twenty five, so that's gotten expensive, but you can

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Speaker 6: still get an over two and a half catches for Parkinson.

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Speaker 6: That's what he gave to my clients, and that's what

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Speaker 6: I invested in. And I will stay off at Higbee

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Speaker 6: because his lack of I think you only got Bran

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Speaker 6: eight routes last game. You probably could bet on Ferguson over,

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Speaker 6: but Parkinson was my favorite.

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Speaker 2: All right, fast sounds good. So if you look ahead

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Speaker 2: two weeks from Sunday, who will be observing in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, who will be the two combatants?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know it's obviously boring and correct always take

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Speaker 6: the favorite when there's a four point favorite, So I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to be boring. By the way, Bernie, thank

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Speaker 6: you for the very behind words. There's an article that's

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Speaker 6: coming out on me at the Chicago Sun Times. I

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Speaker 6: saw your quotes and that, so that was very very

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Speaker 6: nice what you contributed. Alter And so for those in

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Speaker 6: Chicago you can check that out in the Chicago Sun

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Speaker 6: Times or online. I'll predict both underdogs win them off.

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Speaker 6: So I'll predict we're going to get a Bronco Ram

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl and the Rams are going to probably be

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Speaker 6: laying nine points burning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. And by the way, credit to Rob Mish,

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Speaker 2: longtime writer. Have been many books, including Bryce Harper. He

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Speaker 2: reads that great column in the Chicago Sun Times very

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Speaker 2: much as his finger on the Pulse wrote an article

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Speaker 2: about me a couple of years ago. So before I

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Speaker 2: let you run, Faz, I did want to talk to

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Speaker 2: you about this. We don't have to spend more than

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Speaker 2: a minute on it. But lo and behold, the other

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Speaker 2: gambling scandal hits basketball last week federal prosecutors there were

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Speaker 2: charges that twenty six men connected to a game fixing scandal.

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Speaker 2: That really kind of shakes up a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: know you've heard about the story, and do you have

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Speaker 2: any thoughts whatsoever? What was your need yer of reaction?

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Speaker 6: Wow, we could spend I could write a book on this, Bernie.

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Speaker 6: One is I firmly believe, even before all of the

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Speaker 6: legalization of sports betting, that there's bad actors out there.

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 6: There are going to be situations where games are indeed fixed.

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Speaker 6: And further, I've always felt that the legislators that say, hey,

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Speaker 6: you know, we catch all this, and we're in place,

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Speaker 6: and I know in Vegas that we do a really

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Speaker 6: good job of monitor monitoring it. But I can't help

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Speaker 6: but say this, Bernie, every single person that gets caught

545
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Speaker 6: that's speeding on the highway, they're going one hundred and

546
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Speaker 6: twenty in a lime green McLaren meaning it's dumb and dumber.

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Speaker 6: They've been four hundred and fifty thousand on the first half.

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Speaker 6: It's like they're trying to get caught. Imagine how easy

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Speaker 6: it would be if you just had a Confederate one

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Speaker 6: that was a ref and he just called more fouls

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 6: or less fouls didn't help either team, just to influence

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Speaker 6: how many points were scored on a game. I think

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Speaker 6: it's a tip of the iceberg. I think there's a

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Speaker 6: lot more dishonesty that's going on out there. Maybe I'm

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 6: just jaded because I've been watching news about like daycares

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Speaker 6: in the country. I think there's a lot of dishonesty

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Speaker 6: in the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if anybody had bet on the

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Speaker 2: Leering Daycare Center, but I know that there was a

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Speaker 2: total of four hundred and fifty eight thousand on thousand

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Speaker 2: to cover a first half spread against North Carolina A

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Speaker 2: and T. This goes back to February twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So your point is taken.

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Speaker 6: And Bernie, I have to ask you this. Has they

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Speaker 6: talk about there being nineteen like nineteen players like program

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Speaker 6: what you say, and like thirty games?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 6: It makes no sense at all. All the time and

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Speaker 6: effort and the risk you take the infultative program. You

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Speaker 6: wouldn't then have that program throw one or two games.

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Speaker 6: You'd have them throw twelve or thirteen be like ideally

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00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 6: you'd infiltrate like two programs and every other game they

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Speaker 6: would be doing something. So it makes me really wonder,

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Speaker 6: my goodness, how many of these programs that they're playing

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Speaker 6: in these hamlets and these small towns are compromised.

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Speaker 2: Well, in the words of Pee Wee Herman, what tangle

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: webs we weave when we attempt to deceive and we'll

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Speaker 2: leave right there, my friend. You enjoy your Sunday fas.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 6: Good luck to everyone. Hey, if there's only three games

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Speaker 6: left in the NFL, whatever you do, guys, don't suddenly

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Speaker 6: put like ten times your normal bet size and wind

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Speaker 6: up hugging your pillow wondering what went wrong. I believe

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Speaker 6: me any one of these teams can lose, and they

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 6: can lose big. Be careful out there.

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Speaker 2: And you do know that that went winning in one

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Speaker 2: air and right out the other. But God bless you, Fez,

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Speaker 2: you tried. You're doing God's work out there. Steve Fazik

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Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio. Yep,

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Speaker 2: we are thirteen minutes away from the midnight hour. Or

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Speaker 2: I sit here in Las Vegas. The clock strikes midnight

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Speaker 2: literally perhaps where you live, same situation, but figuratively for

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Speaker 2: all of us. In thirteen minutes it's the midnight hours.

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Speaker 2: Means you the caller, get the last word. The callers

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Speaker 2: Raiders have the number one draft pick coming up. The draft.

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Speaker 2: I believe NFL Draft is three months from yesterday. And

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza deserves to be the number one pick. I

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Speaker 2: It started as some statement, and I think that even

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio's picked up on it now and writer from

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Sun, Mike Preston intimated, no one's predicting it.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea if it comes true. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: to the Raiders, Now, could it happen? I think it's doubtful.

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Speaker 2: I think it's doubtful, but it's not a zero, okay,

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Speaker 2: And there are a lot of folks who believe there's

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Speaker 2: a play for Lamar. I don't know if that's true.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't have any inside information on that,

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Speaker 2: and there hasn't been any indication the Raiders the Ravens

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Speaker 2: are considering trading Jackson. But let's have fun at the

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Speaker 2: midnight hour. If you were the Ravens, would you consider this,

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Speaker 2: and we the Raiders, would you do it, you get,

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Speaker 2: but you're probably gonna get Jackson for five more years.

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Speaker 2: And you know Mark Davis likes to make a splash.

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Speaker 2: And I know that the the Ravens are trying to

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Speaker 2: They're looking to lower the twenty twenty six cap hit.

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Speaker 2: So things get messy. It's not out of the rem

646
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Speaker 2: of possibility to think decides could part ways. Crazier things

647
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: have happened. But again, the Man Night hours about fun.

648
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: We're not solving the world's problems secure in cancer. Would

649
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: you like to see Lamar Jackson go to the Raiders?

650
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Speaker 2: I would. I would trade that number one pick get

651
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson some other draft capital. Maybe you give yourself

652
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Speaker 2: a shot to be somewhat relevant. I think the world

653
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: of Fernando Mendoza. The last time a number one pick

654
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: overall won a Super Bowl for the team he was

655
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: drafted by, It's twenty eight years ago. Is Peyton Manning.

656
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Speaker 2: So every year around draft time, I give my commentary

657
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: about the risks and rewards and how really drafting your

658
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round even much less. Number one

659
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: overall is a tremendous gamble and has I affiliate. So

660
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Speaker 2: tell me what you think if you're a Raider fan. No,

661
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: we want the number one pick. We want men. No, hey, wait,

662
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Speaker 2: that might be cool. We want men, Lamar Jackson. Give

663
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: me your thoughts on that. You know where I'm going

664
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Speaker 2: with that topic. Number two, and I dove into this

665
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Speaker 2: in my opening commentary, John Harball versus Mike McCarthy. I

666
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: get it. Harball's polish, he's got the cliches and platitudes.

667
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: McCarthy's kind of scruffy. I called them Barney Rubbell. Writers

668
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: have given the McCarthy higher grade a D plus and

669
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: the Harball grade and a well. Hell and you compare

670
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: their record side by side over eighteen seasons as a

671
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: head coach in the National Football League. They're damn near identical.

672
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: Harbaugh's won twelve playoff games, McCarthy's won eleven. They both

673
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: won won Super Bowl. McCarthy's won eight division titles. Harball's

674
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: won six. Harbaugh's won one hundred and eighty regular season games,

675
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Speaker 2: lost one thirteen. McCarthy's lost one twelve one lass but

676
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Speaker 2: one six less one hundred and seventy four. I know

677
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Speaker 2: it's a bunch of numbers. They're identical. They're identical in there,

678
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: but not in their perception. So my question to you

679
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: is who would you rather hire if you owned a

680
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: team or your favorite team. Would you rather have John

681
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Harball or Mike McCarthy. And I expect to get some

682
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: McCarthy defenders, I really do. He was getting murdered. It's

683
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: not the right word. He was getting hammered in Pittsburgh radio.

684
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: From what I understand, most people do not like to

685
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: hire for multiple reasons. I don't think he's going to

686
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: be the guy to usher the Steelers into the future.

687
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: But we'll see. So tell me what you think. And

688
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: by the way, who do you think will have better success?

689
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now. I don't think either of

690
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: them are winning a Super Bowl again. I don't know

691
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Speaker 2: if you do them will ever get to a super

692
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: Bowl again. So there it is. I am not enamored

693
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Speaker 2: with John Harball the way some people are. I'm not.

694
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: The last three years, all I've heard this is Baltimore's year,

695
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: We're going to win the Super Bowl. Blah blah blah.

696
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: All right, So number one, we got the situation on

697
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. Would you like to see him go to

698
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Speaker 2: the Raiders number two Harbaugh John Harbor versus right card

699
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Speaker 2: number three. Well, before I set up, we did this

700
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Speaker 2: about three weeks ago with you know, we talked about

701
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Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith. What are your thoughts about him? I

702
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: was gonna do with Paul Finbaum. He's gonna be he

703
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: not gonna move the needle on this show, but we're

704
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: gonna do it with this guy. Let's let's give this

705
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Speaker 2: sound by the listen, bump Nordo Dame. And I'm gonna

706
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: tell you this, when you're starting to think about all

707
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: these different.

708
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Speaker 9: Things that the preferential treatment that Nordre Dame has gotten,

709
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Speaker 9: we'll get and will continue to get.

710
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, bump Nordo Dame.

711
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: It comes down to a point where now you're starting.

712
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Speaker 1: To say, Cam you bid her SEC is dead. That's cool,

713
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: oh man whatever.

714
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is.

715
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame hasn't been relevant in years.

716
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: They were just in the National Championship game one year ago.

717
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Speaker 2: The relevant for years.

718
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Speaker 10: You take that one that you take that one National

719
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 10: championship with Coach Freeman out of the equation.

720
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Speaker 2: They have not been relevant here? This all right? So

721
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: there you have it. Cam Newton, tremendous at Auburn, tremendous.

722
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Speaker 2: You did a great job in Carolina, got him to

723
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, turn him around. I can't stand this

724
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: guy anymore in the media. Do you wear that's not clothing?

725
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: Those are costumes. He tries so hard with the hats

726
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: and the glasses. I kind of like the guy, but

727
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: not in this role. What do you think of Cam

728
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: Newton When he makes a dumb statement like that? It

729
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: is instantly corrected, and he's done many of these before.

730
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Speaker 2: So Topic number one raiders Mar Jackson, What do you think?

731
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Speaker 2: Topic number two? John Harball versus Mike McCarthy. Who's gonna

732
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Speaker 2: do better? Who would you rather hire? Topic number three

733
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Speaker 2: thoughts on Cam Newton eight seven seven, nine to nine

734
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Speaker 2: one Fox. It's time for the midnight hour and the

735
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox. That's right, the Bernie Fraddle

736
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Speaker 2: Show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle

737
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Speaker 2: or kimmey Line from the Fox Sports radio studios here

738
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Speaker 2: in Vegas, and the callers are lining up and I

739
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: don't want to have them wait, So without further ado,

740
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Speaker 2: let me just say this, it's time for the midnight hour.

741
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: So we've got Lamar Jackson to the Raiders. Do you

742
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: like it? I don't think it's gonna happen, but it's

743
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: fun to talk about John Harball versus Mike McCarthy. Who

744
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: would you hire? They're the same guy. I gave you

745
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: the numbers. Who would you think will have more success

746
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: than Finally, Cam Newton, just like we did with Steven

747
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: A three weeks ago. Give me your thoughts on Cam Newton.

748
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: S go out to Denver. Big Day in Denver on Sunday, Jeff,

749
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: welcome in. Get it started tonight.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Bertie, I don't really have much on your last

751
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 9: two topics other than I'm just surprised Pittsburgh hired a

752
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 9: coach so quickly.

753
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: It's getting it's getting a little late in the in

754
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: the game actually, when you start to look ahead to

755
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: draft and staffing and all that kind of stuff.

756
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 9: But go ahead, But on the Lamar and uh the

757
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 9: number one draft pick with the Mendoza kid, I think

758
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 9: that Lamar is much more the Raider persona than the Fernandez.

759
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 9: I think that guy's too good and too clean cut

760
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 9: of a dude. He would not fit in the raider persona.

761
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 9: I think Lamar would be a raider.

762
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Speaker 2: Here's would you like to see it happen? That's really

763
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: the key guys that I mean Derek Carr, who I

764
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: think turned out to be very duplicitous, very much had

765
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: that same anager. He never won a national championship for

766
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: Frisness State. It's something I'd love to see. Would you

767
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: like to see that happener?

768
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 9: Noll? I think it would be a better fit because

769
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 9: I just think that with the organization and the persona,

770
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 9: it would be a better fit. And given give that

771
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 9: kid a chance somewhere, Ben.

772
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Jeff, And as far as as far

773
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: as tomorrow goes, not a worry in the world.

774
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Speaker 9: I think Stidham is a better passer than Bonix anyway,

775
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 9: So for the for him having to step in, I

776
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 9: think he'll be fine. Just get him comfortable in the

777
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 9: first quarter.

778
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Speaker 6: But in the.

779
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Speaker 9: Competition earlier in the years, when he was throwing the

780
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 9: ball from point A to point B, it was on

781
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 9: the money. So he's a better passer and they run

782
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 9: a ball control offense anyway, So you picking the Broncos

783
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 9: I think is a good pick.

784
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you've heard my opening commentary, Jeff,

785
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: but I am aware of Jared Stidham's arm talent through

786
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: for three sixty five against the Niners a couple of

787
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: years ago. It's not a fluke. Bow Nicks had become

788
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: sort of the playmaker when the heat is hot and

789
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: it's hard to breathe and clutch time. But maybe Jared

790
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: stdam gets that chance Sunday. I think for a one

791
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: game affair, which is all you can do with now,

792
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be as big as a drop off

793
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 2: as people think.

794
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 9: No, Stidham is no slouts. It's Denver does not have

795
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 9: the word about your backup coming off the bench and

796
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 9: everybody's like, well, who's this guy, what's he gonna do?

797
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 9: You're in the headlights. No Stidham, I think will be fine.

798
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Jeff, We're an agreement. Uh, Jim

799
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts bat in second tonight. Let her rep buddy.

800
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Speaker 8: Hey, Lamarck Raiders, I'm all in on that. Definitely a

801
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 8: Raider Prossana everything about them, whether it happened or not,

802
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 8: you know, it'd be smart because they didn't get a

803
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 8: couple of number ones. They get him. You know, I

804
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 8: think the raiders are to think about the future, now,

805
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 8: you know, and get picks and just leave what's his name,

806
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 8: Let him go to somebody else, Mendoza.

807
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so far away, Jim. They've got holes all

808
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: over the place, and this poor kid's going to be

809
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: running for his life for at least two years. So anyway,

810
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: it's fun to talk about John Harbaugh versus Mike McCarthy.

811
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Speaker 2: Who would you rather hire? Who do you think has

812
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: more success going forward?

813
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, on hire McCarthy, I mean at Hia,

814
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 8: Hobba and McCarthy. The only reason he's in Pittsburgh, he's

815
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 8: got to be coaching free. They must not be paying

816
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 8: him because what he wants. With Dallas, he could he

817
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 8: can't even manage to clock. It wasn't one strike, it

818
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 8: wasn't two strike, it was multiple strikes. Well, he was

819
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 8: just someplace else when the game was going on. And

820
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 8: to go to a team like Pittsburgh with their pedigree

821
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 8: hire him, I don't get it. I really don't get it.

822
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 8: They must have got him free to coach free instead

823
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 8: of paying I don't understand that at all. And Cam Newton, Hey,

824
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 8: let's face it, Cam Newton's got the iq of a

825
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 8: house plan, because when you get in the Super Bowl

826
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 8: and the balls laying on the ground and you're one

827
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Speaker 8: of the biggest guys, you're one of the biggest guys

828
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 8: on the field, and you're too afraid to jump on it.

829
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 8: It's like, dude, don't go away, man, just go away.

830
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: You know what years ago, and I mean years ago,

831
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Howard Cosell talked about the jockocracy invading the airwaves. Now,

832
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: if someone can do this, I'm all for it. And

833
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: if someone happens to have worn a jack at a

834
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: high level, then that can only make them better. But

835
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Speaker 2: to just go right to the captain seat, he shows

836
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Speaker 2: flaws his comment about Notre Dame having not been relevant years.

837
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: They've been to what three National championship games since twenty twelve?

838
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: South along those lines. So the bottom line is, I

839
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: don't like a stick and his act. And when you

840
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: are as inaccurate and boisterous and he's supercilious as he is,

841
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it plays well. You got the last word.

842
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 8: My last word is I'm bringing up something else, Ernie,

843
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 8: which is more important than anything that you have had

844
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 8: all week. Did you see on YouTube about the coach

845
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 8: and the kids that beat up the twenty one year

846
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 8: old umpire in a Little League game and then went

847
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: into the stands and beat up the father winter Haven

848
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Speaker 8: and they had to have the cops all show up anything.

849
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Speaker 8: I mean, what's happening in this world? You know, ninety

850
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: nine point nine percent of all the children out there

851
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 8: playing a you wasted all that. But they're not going anywhere.

852
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 8: They're not even getting a knock into the pros. They're

853
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: not going to get a scholarship. And isn't that these

854
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 8: parents that lived through their kids? It flat out crazy?

855
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 11: Did you see that?

856
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Speaker 7: Did you think?

857
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: I can't lie. I didn't see the video. I heard

858
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: about it, and this seems to happen. They've been arrested.

859
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: I believe it took place. I thought it was in

860
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was in California. Maybe I'm wrong.

861
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 8: No, I haven f because the reason I remember that

862
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 8: because that's where the Red Sox you have that home.

863
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: Sure you know all these days we'll have to have

864
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: a topic about the that I think Bear said. I

865
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: think you'll absolutely Jim. I think y'gi Bear said it best.

866
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: The great thing about Little League is it keeps parents

867
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: off the streets.

868
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 8: We want to go to balls, to go to ballpoxing

869
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 8: and commit crimes there?

870
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 12: What kids?

871
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 7: What are you crazy?

872
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: He should you should face you should face charges, so

873
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: and I and he will. He've been arrested. Jim has

874
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: always great stuff. Appreciate you Andre, We stay in Massachusetts

875
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: and TEI you been buddy?

876
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 13: How you doing, Bernie, thanks for taking the call, just

877
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 13: to what.

878
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 14: The previous what the previous call?

879
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 15: Are finished with?

880
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 13: You know, I'm a referee.

881
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 16: A lot of my games are at the youth level,

882
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 16: and far more difficult the referee those youth games than

883
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 16: a high level competitive varsity game because nobody knows what

884
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 16: they're doing and there's no safeguards in place, expectations that

885
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 16: you're going to have some sort of honor code and recognize.

886
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 16: As the last caller said that over ninety nine percent off,

887
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 16: you guys are not going throw or going throw in

888
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 16: something other than sports, which is no problem. But the

889
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 16: hoop dreams or the idea that the more time and

890
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 16: effort that you put into sports, you're guaranteed some division

891
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 16: ie or professional dream that takes people way over the top.

892
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 12: And it just so you need it's.

893
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Reality that's not going away. I get that real quickly.

894
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to get your thoughts on the three topics.

895
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: Would you do you think it's not a zero, but

896
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't give it much chance. Lamar Jackson of the Raiders,

897
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: would you like to see it?

898
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 16: I got to give it a negative five just because

899
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 16: I'm partial to Baltimore. You know David thim in the

900
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 16: great series The Wire, and they deserve the opportunity to

901
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 16: see the next iteration of Lamar Jackson's career and whether

902
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 16: he can be that command quarterback. He seems to want

903
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 16: to have more input i e. Of Peyton Manning right

904
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 16: or Tom Brady. That's like the pseudo coach and general

905
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 16: manager as well as being the quarterback, having control over

906
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 16: like multiple things. He wants that, and I want to

907
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 16: say I think the people in Baltimore deserves deserve to

908
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 16: see if it can work. I have my doubts based

909
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 16: on their lack of success.

910
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: Doubts, and I have serious doubts. And I love Fernando Mendoza,

911
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 2: but I've studied this for years and the track record

912
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: of first round and first overall draft quarterbacks. He's not

913
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: great and going to a place like the Raiders, I

914
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: don't care. I'm not sold on it John Harball versus

915
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy.

916
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, Harball has the much better reputation like the other callers.

917
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 16: I'm absolutely starstruck that the Steeler has not only made

918
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 16: the decision as quick but went in that direction. They've

919
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 16: had three coaches in the last sixty years and Mike

920
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 16: McCarthy is no spring chicken. So I don't know why, right,

921
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,959
Speaker 16: So if that's your you know, is there something within

922
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 16: the rooting organization where there's a change at the top,

923
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 16: because it just it seems counterintuitive to their philosophy of

924
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 16: picking people for the long term when that's obviously not

925
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 16: Mike McCarthy in terms of his age and then his pedigree,

926
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 16: like we know who this guy is, he's not you know,

927
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 16: bringing anything world shattering into the equation. To conclude on

928
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 16: Cam Newton, I happen to light fish stick in the

929
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 16: social you know, in his Cam Newton has an audience

930
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 16: for what he has an audience for, you know, similar

931
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 16: like you know, Pat not to compare them apples, you know,

932
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 16: to to McAfee, you know who has you know, but

933
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 16: he is who he is for his phone. But then

934
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 16: when he comes into the mainstream there it's it's a

935
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 16: different ball of wax, and you can't necessarily do what

936
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 16: you want to say what you want when you're in

937
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 16: a mainstream environment. And when he brings his persona from

938
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 16: his person you know, a YouTube space or whatever, into

939
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 16: the mainstream, that's where we get the oil and vinegar,

940
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 16: and it doesn't always work great.

941
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 17: Thanks so much for having me on.

942
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: I love the show, all right, thanks a lot, Andre,

943
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: appreciate you all that. Saint Louis. You said you wouldn't

944
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: be a stranger. You are not a stranger. You are

945
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: back on the here. Welcome to Ellen.

946
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 7: I'm so glad to be back. We got about say.

947
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 7: It is a snow here and it's still falling, so

948
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 7: I'm in a good place.

949
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: Talking boy, Would you show some Emo's Pizza Baby and

950
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: enjoy the snow.

951
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: Nothing but the best the square beyond compare that. I

952
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 7: just I just get you could build in for that

953
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 7: commercial you could. I want to first of all, own

954
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 7: the Lamar Jackson.

955
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

956
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 7: From a football standpoint, I would kind of like to

957
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 7: see it because you take Mendoza, you put them in Baltimore.

958
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 7: You know they're going to get the number one pick.

959
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 7: You put it in Baltimore, New coach, new system, new quarterback.

960
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 7: I think it would kind of be an actually easier

961
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 7: transition for the coach. Now, for mart Lamar Jackson, I

962
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 7: don't want to see it because he's going to the Raiders.

963
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 7: He's already kind of beat up somewhat, and I think

964
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 7: he would get killed out there in Los Ange in

965
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 7: Las Vegas because this team has a lot of holes.

966
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 7: And I thought you a couple of weeks ago. I

967
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 7: thought to you a couple of weeks ago, and I said,

968
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 7: if I were the Raiders, which I'm not, I would

969
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 7: want I wouldn't draft Mendoza because he's going to get

970
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 7: the same treatment. They got a lot of holes they

971
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 7: need to fill before they stick that quarterback in with

972
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 7: that offensive line and everything else. As far as Mike

973
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 7: McCarthy is concerned, I think because of his age, this

974
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 7: is a short term higher.

975
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're open again, three or four years, that's it.

976
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: But the interesting part is everybody, when God over Harbaugh

977
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: and he's his wreckords know better than McCarthy's well, and

978
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: you put him side by side, who would you rather

979
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: have exactly?

980
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 7: And I'll tell you one thing with McCarthy there that

981
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 7: guarantees thereon Rodgers not coming back.

982
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure. I you see, I thought the opposite.

983
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: I thought they got it, they got along. Okay, well

984
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: I kind of thought that.

985
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 7: I kind of thought the relationship was kind of strayed

986
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 7: near to.

987
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: Well they had met, it was, but but they've kind

988
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: of patched it up. And I don't think this was

989
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's motivation. But I'm told that it would be a

990
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: chick in in Aaron Rodgers' favor if if they brought,

991
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: if Mike McCarthy got a job. But that's neither here

992
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: nor there. What do you think of Cam Newton?

993
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 7: You know, you know, you know, I won't say problem.

994
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 7: Cam Newton is a part of when he gets in

995
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: on that Stephen A. Smith show, he almost has to

996
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 7: be a certain way. Look at Ryan Clark. Ryan Clarker

997
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 7: is very boisterous. What's he's on? First take what he's on?

998
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 7: Get up? And the other shows you this. His demeanor

999
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 7: is a lot different because on the face they both

1000
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 7: know football, you know the other previous call and talking

1001
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 7: about him in that one play. I don't hold that Againstdale,

1002
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 7: but if you notice, they cannot fall into that. Steve

1003
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 7: and as Steven A. Smith, Bay when they're on this show.

1004
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 7: I felt the same way about Michael Irvin when Michael

1005
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 7: Irvis on CEVASI show, I couldn't stand though on the

1006
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 7: NFL network he was great. So I think once you

1007
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 7: get in that get on that show, it's almost seems

1008
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 7: like you have to act a different way than you

1009
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 7: normally would on other media, on other media.

1010
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: Out. That's right, that's sure, Alan, good stuff. Appreciate you,

1011
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: don't be a stranger. We'll talk again. Enjoy that Emo's pizza.

1012
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: It's my favorite in Saint Louis. All right, we're gonna

1013
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: get to all of you. Canison, Alabama, Tyler in Minnesota,

1014
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: Martin Orange, Mike, New York. Thanks so much for taking

1015
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: the time to call in. I want to hear what

1016
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: all of you have to say. It coming up. By

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Speaker 2: toilet paper and wondered, is this as good as it gets?

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Speaker 2: We continue with the Midnight Hour coming up. Keep it

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Speaker 2: locker and listening to The Bernie Frattle Show on.

1025
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,239
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1026
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1029
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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Frattle Show. The

1030
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: Midnight Hour continues. Let's go back out to the phone lines.

1031
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: Welcome in, Kenneth from Alabama. Ken thanks for your patience.

1032
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 12: Welcome in, Hey, thanks for taking the call cast of Lamar,

1033
00:55:54,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 12: Jackson and Mando. It would be nice to see Lamar

1034
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 12: first start in Las Vegas. But I wouldn't take Fernando

1035
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 12: post oball. I think he's gonna be an average to

1036
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 12: below average quarterback. And they said, I know he won

1037
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 12: the Heisman, but I think he was in a controlled

1038
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 12: environment at Indiana where he really didn't have to put

1039
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 12: the team on his back.

1040
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know about all that, big fella.

1041
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: Do you see the game at Penn State. Do you

1042
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: see the game against Das State twice against Oregon, Dude,

1043
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: his ball and inaccuracy and processing. This man's a prospect.

1044
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: You don't have to like him, but I did this

1045
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: for a long time, so I'm just wondering. I just

1046
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't really With all the respect my friend, I

1047
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: want to give you the floor. We can maybe get

1048
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: a scouting report on Fernando culture to the draft, but

1049
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: what I'd really like to see would you like to

1050
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: see that trade?

1051
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 11: Yes?

1052
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 8: Or no?

1053
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you give any reasons no, it doesn't

1054
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: make sense. I get it. You were just having a

1055
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: little fun because it's probably not gonna happen.

1056
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1057
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I would like to see it though, But it

1058
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 12: kind of leads into my next point with John Harbar

1059
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 12: and Mike McCarthy. I think John Halbard, I think he's

1060
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 12: overrated as a coach. I feel like multiple times in

1061
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 12: Baltimore they have a chance to go to the super Bowl,

1062
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 12: like the year they refuse to run the ball and

1063
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 12: try to outdoor Patrick Mahomes at home.

1064
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: You're a running.

1065
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 12: Team, you know, use lamar legs. I mean he's the

1066
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 12: head coach. He can override the offensive coordinator and say, hey,

1067
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 12: run the ball. But I don't think that Mike McCarthy

1068
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 12: higher with Pittsburgh is it's obviously not long term, but

1069
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 12: I think it can work. Like you said him me,

1070
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 12: and John is just the same coach. But I feel

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Speaker 12: like he's underrated because you know, he led Dallas to

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Speaker 12: the way off four years straight, I think, and the

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Speaker 12: year I think he left, they were a nine playoffs team.

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Speaker 12: And I think he can give Pittsburgh to the AC

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Speaker 12: Championship if they can find the right quarterback. Maybe they

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 12: get Malice Hivers on one fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Uh F Cam Newton your cluick thoughts on Cam Newton.

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Speaker 12: Cam, I think he just he's a diva. He really is.

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Speaker 12: And I mean, I don't agree with his comments about

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00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 12: over Dame. I have my own personal no dislikes from

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Speaker 12: Notre Dame, but it's not for the reasons he said.

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 12: But yeah, he says all about me sometime and I

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 12: caught chains up there their personalities to impressed, Stephen h.

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Speaker 12: And that's all I have to say.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, good stuff, Kenneth. Appreciate you. Buddy Tyler in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: welcome in. How are you.

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Speaker 17: Show on Football League every Saturday here in Minnesota anyway?

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, thank you for checking in.

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 17: But yeah, like the Lamar thing, so many.

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00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 14: People get him excuse because everybody's got him.

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 17: On their fantasy football team. So they're scoring points here

1092
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 17: and there, but he's never.

1093
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 14: Really won a big game.

1094
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 17: It's there, but he's never really gets.

1095
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 15: Over the hump.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs.

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Speaker 14: So as an NFL fantasy, uh, you know.

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Speaker 17: Landscape, I would love to see him trade to Oapland

1099
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 17: because it's way more talkers, way more weird stuff happening,

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Speaker 17: you know, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 14: But the Raiders would be.

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Speaker 19: I think, not that smart to not take Mendoza.

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Speaker 17: And see what that could bring, because the kids show

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Speaker 17: him this much this year, Like the whole Indiana story

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Speaker 17: is amazing, really like it.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I can show.

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Speaker 14: I'm only forty one, but I've never seen this to

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Speaker 14: my life. And I've watched Alabama's all.

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Speaker 19: That, you know, they were doing whatever, but like to

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Speaker 19: come out of nowhere and do this is just amazing.

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Speaker 19: And this kid's been just rock solid here and they're

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Speaker 19: showing poise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Uh, it's a great talker for you know, like what

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Speaker 20: we're doing right now, like Lamar there. But there's no

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Speaker 20: way you can trade a quarterback like that in the

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Speaker 20: league where there's only ten to twelve quarterbacks that can

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Speaker 20: actually do it. I don't think he can actually do it.

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Speaker 20: But he's one that will give everybody hope.

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Speaker 2: You know, fair John Harba versus Mike McCarthy, Who would

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Speaker 2: you have hired if you had a choice. Who do

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Speaker 2: you think will have more success?

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Speaker 14: That's the tough of I think they both rest their

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Speaker 14: morals and having.

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Speaker 17: Good quarterbacks behind them.

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Speaker 14: But being him from Minnesota, I've watched McCarthy fail so

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Speaker 14: many times, I think he actually costs. I think he actually.

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Speaker 17: Costs Rogers a few super Bowls.

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Speaker 8: Actually like to see.

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Speaker 17: I don't melt like.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy, Tyler. He's got the same

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Speaker 2: damn career record as John Harball when it comes to

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: wins playoffs. He's even won more divisional titles. The irony

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Speaker 2: cam dudon what do you like them or what are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts?

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Speaker 17: I wasn't a huge fan of him when he was

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Speaker 17: a quarterback, so I got a little bit of bias.

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Speaker 17: But he was a good athlete and I see that.

1139
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 17: But now that he's on the.

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Speaker 14: Media, it's just it's uh Western cowboy.

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 19: Pimps thing he's doing.

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Speaker 14: I don't even get it.

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01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: But it's a costume.

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01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 17: Every every everybody on social media nowadays has to have

1145
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Speaker 17: their niche and I guess he found his niche here,

1146
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 17: so that's kind of I think what we're going with.

1147
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 17: But it's like this weird kind of cowboy costume, you know,

1148
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 17: without the bullboat nose on the.

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: Weird it's weird, it's not, it's it feels like a

1150
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Speaker 2: forced look. Good stuff covered, a lot of good down there.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Tyler. Here we come, Baby Martin and Orange Martin.

1152
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Speaker 10: Let her up, buddy, Bernie, greetings and salutations. I'm just

1153
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 10: gonna jump right into it. And everyone said what we said,

1154
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 10: McCarthy and harbother exactly the same thing. If anything, one's underrated,

1155
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 10: the other one's overrated. But who do I think he's

1156
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 10: gonna have more success? I think I'm gonna have to

1157
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 10: pick Carball just because of the situation he's in. I

1158
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 10: think Pittsburgh still has a lot of work to do,

1159
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 10: and that's why McCarthy is like this bridge coach to

1160
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 10: do to get to who they want. Now, Bernie, I'm

1161
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 10: from the West Coast. As I was looking in a

1162
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 10: mirror right now, where you're gonna see, You're gonna see

1163
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 10: a T shirt, a pair of Dickeys, and a pair

1164
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 10: of Chucks. That's like maybe one hundred dollars. Cam Noon

1165
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 10: is into high faction, Bernie. That's why we don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: That's why, Oh no, no, I understand high fashion. That's

1167
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: a costume, Martin, that's not It's like Don Cherry used

1168
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: to do on Hockey Night in Canaday. You look at

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: it and go really, really, go ahead, Bud, you got

1170
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: the floor.

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 10: But this isn't like high fashion with the nice suits

1172
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 10: and a pat rally at the showtime. This is high fashion,

1173
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 10: mit gallery, What the hell is that? That's the type

1174
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 10: of fashion he's wearing. And he's not a reporter. He's

1175
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 10: an opinionater. All these guys are opinionaters. They give kriickbait,

1176
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 10: kriick bait to make you rage.

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Speaker 13: Bernie.

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Speaker 10: You have integrity. That's why I love your show. You're

1179
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 10: a heartback. You're a heartback to the throwbacks of the

1180
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 10: old days when reporting was reporting, and you do it well,

1181
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 10: my friends. Now, let me get to this last one,

1182
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 10: because this, to me is the funnest topic. Of course,

1183
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 10: we want Lamar Jackson to be a raider. Of course,

1184
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 10: we want to see him in the silver and black.

1185
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 10: This harken back to the old school raiders where we

1186
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 10: had Hendricks and Ryle Alzado and miss.

1187
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 17: This coming together to.

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 10: Madden and brother Al would find a way back to

1189
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 10: see that teem Way and the winds would once again

1190
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 10: blow right now footbo I love you.

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: Bertie, I now Martin. Another baffo performance is that one

1192
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: guy used to say on the radio, rack him Mike

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: and New York. Thanks for your patience, my friend, you

1194
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: are up next. What have you got for us tonight?

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Speaker 10: No problem?

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Speaker 15: Bertie up picking for a speaker for on my pol

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 15: king Jeremy, Yeah, go ahead, let her, but let her it.

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Speaker 6: Mike doter Ball.

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Speaker 13: Get kid bit because he's going to induce the choice with.

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Speaker 15: The times that dear to have a quarterback. That's the

1201
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 15: dark but curty doing. If every Riders stays one where

1202
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 15: you're bye, but Maccurdy's gotta get quarterback and this and

1203
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 15: it goes down days you gotta have a quarterback.

1204
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true. That is very true. Who do

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: you like better or check that? Do you think Lamar Jackson,

1206
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: speaking of quarterbacks, would come to the Raiders. Would you

1207
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: like to see that?

1208
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 12: Well?

1209
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 7: What to get lebar.

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Speaker 15: Tact to go to the Raiders?

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Speaker 13: Who's gonna be the Raiders coach, they just to go.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be either Clint Kubiak or

1213
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: Davis Webb. That's my thought. We'll see.

1214
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Speaker 15: Kubiac would be a good fit. But I think Leabar

1215
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 15: Tacton would do good in LA because the rosters is

1216
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 15: the best roster and he's a plus.

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Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, Mike, do you like what's your

1218
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: thoughts on Cam Newton.

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Speaker 15: Newtangie the only quarterback in the Super Bowl history to

1220
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Speaker 15: not make a post game interview ever since sixteen two

1221
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 15: Baul against Rocco. I heard that I got no respect

1222
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 15: for Ken Newton.

1223
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you remember that. You remember that he ducked out

1224
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Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl. He was embarrassed. All right, good stuff, Mike,

1225
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: covered a lot of good ground there, har and James,

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Speaker 2: you are up next.

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Speaker 18: Welcome in Awler and James, Bernie freddo Yes, that's how

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 18: you're doing. How you're doing good?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? What do you got forced to

1230
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: out on these topics?

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Speaker 18: Hey man, you know you got some good topics going on.

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Speaker 18: I would like to see Lamar Jackson come on back,

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Speaker 18: backing up.

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Speaker 11: J J.

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Speaker 18: McCarthy, Oh, that would never happen.

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01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: You know that would never happen. How about narrators? You'd

1237
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: like to see him on Narraiders?

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Speaker 21: He could.

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Speaker 18: I think he might be able to turn out pretty

1240
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 18: good with the Raiders. I think he looked more like

1241
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 18: a Randall Cunning to having a Raider outfit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough for right, John Harbaugh versus Mike McCarthy.

1243
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: Who's to do better? Who would you that rather have?

1244
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 18: All right, Mike McCarthy.

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: All right on Cam Newton?

1246
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 18: Uh, Cam Newton? God to say what the last colors said?

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Speaker 18: He really disappointed me when he wouldn't you know? He

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 18: disrespected like the NFL when he did that. And another thing,

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Speaker 18: one more thing, when you disrespect the NFL, the organization

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Speaker 18: that's been in the national football for a number of years.

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Speaker 18: And Mike, he's lit an expassion team. No as an

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Speaker 18: athlete that has did something like that.

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Speaker 2: Holler and James, good stuff, my friend. You enjoy your Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Uh, Masson Fresnel. Is it your first call

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frowner Show?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: It sure is.

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Speaker 2: Well. Welcome in letter, Rep buddy, thank you. I'm a

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Speaker 2: diehard Rader fan.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 11: I celebrated when the end of the year by getting

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Speaker 11: the first hour pick and beating the chief while we're

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 11: at it still in So yeah, that's how hardcore I am.

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Speaker 11: We are not Ala Mark Jackson away from competing. So

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 11: are we going to give up assets to help build

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 11: for the future. You just got to have hope that

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Speaker 11: spy Tech and Brady and the new brain trust are

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 11: leading the team now can Yeah, here's the.

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Speaker 2: Thing, Moss. As long as you and you and believe

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: me greater fan base is among the best in history.

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Speaker 2: I will go to my grade with that. Are you

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Speaker 2: willing to wait three years? That's what you're looking at,

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Speaker 2: my friend? They will not be irrelevant in twenty six

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Speaker 2: or twenty seven.

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Speaker 11: I said, last time we were really relevant was what

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Speaker 11: twenty sixteen? We had that good run before Harborough.

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Speaker 2: Is in the foot Yeah, yep, yep, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, had the nice little blip in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 11: So hey, I waited this long. I can wait three

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Speaker 11: more years.

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Speaker 2: All right? Well, okay, that's a measured thought there, John

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Speaker 2: Harball versus Mike McCarthy. Who would you rather have?

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Speaker 6: Harball?

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Speaker 11: I think he just you know, I mean, he was

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Speaker 11: able to build a culture and stay and be in

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Speaker 11: Baltimore for that long tenure McCarthy.

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Speaker 22: His time, you know, wore out in Green Bay, his

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 22: time wore out in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Harball is a guy back and like, hey.

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Speaker 11: I'm here, and I think he's a more successive because

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Speaker 11: he has that quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was just flabbergasted when I did

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: the resource to see their records identical. Finally, any thoughts

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: on cam Newton.

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Speaker 22: Wasn't saying all a mistake, that's so good. Well, my

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Speaker 22: kick called, you know, pick me girl, Hey, look at me.

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Speaker 22: I got Honestly, I'm so outliners I'm still out there.

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: But he has no Steve and A has some substance

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: to back up what he Yeah, yeah, and Stephen A

1300
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: was actually a journalist for the Philadelphia quarter for for

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Speaker 2: a one hundred years. Look, you're you're not wrong. That's

1302
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: well said sizzle versus steak. And when you make dumb statements,

1303
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: whether you're a Notre Dame fan or not, I don't care.

1304
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: You can't tell me they have been relevant for for

1305
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: in years. When they went to the yeah, and.

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 22: He called out it own up, so okay, you know what,

1307
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 22: I love it there and then he got stupid.

1308
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: We didn't have time to play the whole song, but

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: then he he went into the defensive mode and dougas

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Speaker 2: Douglas hold deeper. Hey, great debut, Moss. I hope you

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Speaker 2: call monshaw more. We do this every Saturday night at

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Speaker 2: midnight Pacific there in Fresno. All right, coming up, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna wrap up the midnight hour. Two stellar callers, David

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Manuel and Guardina will join us. You do

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: not want to miss their cause, I'll promise you that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, For the best pregame show every weekend,

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Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Contown and

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio on the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Coming up, we wrap it up some final

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: thoughts on the midnight hour. Keep it locked. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: All right, rack on the burniey Fratle Show wrap it

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Speaker 2: up on the midnight hour Squa Out to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: David joins us, Hey, welcome in, David, how are you hi.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 21: The Mike McCarthy hire feels like a bridge quarterback. Remember

1333
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 21: when the Niners hired Dennix Ericson and everyone was like,

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 21: where's he coming from?

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 10: Oh?

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, they just need to turn over the roster and

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 21: just have a guy who will send the dudes out

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Speaker 21: there and play ball. But not like they have a

1339
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,480
Speaker 21: They have so much cash strapped on older guys on defense, particularly,

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01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 21: so it feels like he'll be in there for three

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 21: years and then they'll get a new coach and a

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Speaker 21: new quarterback and you know, younger guys on both.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, the main thing I was curious is

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01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: comparing the uh John Harball what would just leave it there?

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Speaker 21: Continued Well, I mean Harbor is going to be great.

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Speaker 21: I mean he's got a young he's sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. He had all potential Hall of

1348
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: Fame quarterback and uh in Lamark. Yeah, all right, so

1349
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Speaker 2: we continue. Give me your thoughts on Lamar Jackson to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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Speaker 21: Why would you do that to Lamar Jackson? To curse

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 21: him to send him out to the Raiders. That is

1353
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 21: so knocks there.

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: I saw that he retweeted the I mean, I know

1355
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: they're all having a little fun with this, but he

1356
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: basically retweeted in someone's tweet who said that he may

1357
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: just be playing games.

1358
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Speaker 21: But unless he want these going for the money or

1359
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 21: to gamble, the Raiders are cursed until Mark Davis get

1360
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 21: the haircut he ser bowl in Baltimore.

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01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, the Ravens haven't exactly lit the world

1362
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: on fire either, and they and they've been the expectations

1363
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 2: have been through the roof for the for.

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Speaker 1: The for the Raiders.

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: So you know, it's just we're just we're just having

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: a little fun goofing around with this kind of stuff. Basically,

1367
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Speaker 2: is really what we're doing. And what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Cam Newton.

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Speaker 9: I don't have any thoughts on Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: He's done.

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Speaker 13: He's just he's just of a talking head at this point.

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Speaker 9: I don't really care.

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Speaker 2: All right, well said, don't be a stranger, David. Ladies

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Speaker 2: and gentlemen, boys and girls, please stay seated for the

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01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: entire performance. Yes, we go to Guardina and we walk

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Speaker 2: theme in. Manuel, Manuel, how are you my friend.

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Speaker 19: They say I'm lazy bern It takes all my time

1378
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 19: because I just won't to celebrate.

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01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 17: Hey, Bernie, I'm good man being a hell of a

1380
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 17: knife for the collars.

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Speaker 13: I like it, Manu the great job guy.

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01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 17: Uh the last caller calling off the pumpkin haircut it

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 17: freak I mean, uh, where do.

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: You Jim Carrier reference buddy that that was from dumb

1385
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: and rubber?

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 7: Of course, you hatter peeing the cup.

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: If you know what's good for you, little pumpkin pie haircut?

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: It freak well, and I'm coming sick with it.

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 17: David has more than his helping the buck grandma cough syrup, if.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,839
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, uh, but yeah, man, it's a it's.

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 14: A hole match there.

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01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 17: I wouldn't subject Mendoza to the Raider way right now.

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 17: I would try to do like a herschel Walker type,

1395
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 17: Paul All for that number one pick if possible, trade

1396
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 17: swamp and maybe like an established player because like you say, man,

1397
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 17: we got more holes than Swiss Sheep on this rock.

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Speaker 14: It's ridiculous, you know.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 17: And I'm a Raider fan through and through, but I

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 17: would hate to see Mendoza. They're gonna David Carr Mendoza,

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01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 17: not Derek David.

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 12: He's a that.

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01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: He got hit more than a Rocky bell boy while

1405
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: he was up in absolutely And Jerry Cooney, but.

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 17: I'll tell you what Bernie. As far as Harbaugh and

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 17: uh the fat dude, Cathy Barney Rubble, Yeah, hey, they're

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 17: both good coaches, bro, They're they're above above average. But

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 17: it might be that the league has passed them by.

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 17: You know, it's hard to tell. I think, uh, instead

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 17: of be really telling, the next is seasons that both

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 17: of these stops. But I would have to say Ty

1413
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 17: goes to the runner on those hiring s uff I'll

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01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 17: take it.

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 11: Uh.

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 17: Thoughts on Cam Newton, Okay, my thoughts are he's the

1417
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 17: closest thing to Daffy Duck's nephew, remembering the Looney Tune

1418
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 17: cartoons when he would have those oversized like uh boys

1419
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 17: like tustedo shorts and these long uh you know, uh,

1420
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 17: you know he's a sport coaches, like.

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: He's not making He's making a lot of time, but fashion,

1422
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:41,959
Speaker 2: these are costumes.

1423
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 17: He's become a caricature.

1424
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 18: You know.

1425
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, well said he is not you know.

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 17: I mean he knows a lot of football and stuff.

1427
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 17: But at this point, like the one of the last

1428
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 17: cars said, it's clickbait. He's just going for clickbait, you know,

1429
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 17: norder James not relevant.

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 13: Come on, bro, like that's one of them.

1431
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: And he argues and he defends it. That's what really

1432
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: pissed me off.

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01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 17: He doubles down.

1434
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 13: Right.

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, hey, by the way, real quickly, man, Well

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: you know who else David car Guy hit more than

1437
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: Chuck Wepner. Chuck Webner. I had to level up, man,

1438
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 2: I had to level up with you.

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 17: That's right, Hey, you have a great nye Bernie, always

1440
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 17: a great show.

1441
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: Appreciated, Thanks, Manuel, appreciate what you bring to the show.

1442
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: And finally, last but not least, the legendary poppy from

1443
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 2: San Diego.

1444
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 13: Hey, Bernie, thank you very much. I appreciate.

1445
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 6: Hey.

1446
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 13: A great show tonight. And we were talking the first

1447
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 13: one that's about Fernando. There were akin in the sky

1448
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 13: and because it was Fernando, I think about Fernando done.

1449
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 13: Everybody wants him, and I'm excited, like, I think that's

1450
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 13: what the Raiders need. They need someone that we don't want,

1451
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 13: like not me as a Raider fan, but I'll be

1452
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 13: representing the Raider ban.

1453
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 11: Right.

1454
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 13: I'm not a Raider fan or anything, but the Raiders

1455
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 13: of the organization, they don't need someone old like Lamar

1456
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 13: Jacks and his wills are older. I really like, you

1457
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 13: know Mendoza, the way how he stands his values and

1458
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 13: you know how he said, and I think he's ready.

1459
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 13: It's gonna take a couple of years to rebuild, but

1460
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 13: I think Tom Brady and the draft and the draft

1461
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 13: they can build up upon that.

1462
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 7: And what's next on the board.

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01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: Versus Mike McCarthy, Who would you rather have as your coach?

1464
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 13: Look, I'd rather have my coach Harball because you know

1465
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 13: the character and he'll bring out the best of you

1466
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 13: old school and you know with his brother, you know,

1467
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 13: Jim Harball, like the Chargers, you know, like I like that,

1468
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 13: give me, give me that energy.

1469
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 22: Right.

1470
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 13: So, and the next one was with Dart.

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01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: Right with just the last thing is Cam Dude, do

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: you have an opinion on Cam Newton?

1473
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yes I do. But what Cam Newton looks,

1474
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 13: he just he's great. He's a great quarterback. He's a superman, right,

1475
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 13: and the Panthers got to respect him. And he's gone

1476
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 13: to the Super Bowl. But I think, going on at

1477
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 13: this point on his time in his life, I see

1478
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 13: him as a podcaster. He does a lot of podcasts.

1479
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 13: He wild things, which is cool. But like, yeah, I mean,

1480
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 13: I think he's great what he does, and he has

1481
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 13: a lot of respect. He has a lot of knowledge

1482
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,480
Speaker 13: in the game. But I look at him like a podcaster.

1483
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 13: That's how I see him.

1484
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: Bernie all right, poppy, good stuff. I appreciate all the

1485
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: calls tonight, A lot of interesting thoughts, and there were

1486
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 2: defenders from Mike McCarthy. It's interesting. I might not have

1487
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: set this up properly. I think what really caught my

1488
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: eye about the topic that again I put forth as

1489
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: our number two topic tonight, who would you rather have?

1490
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: Who you think I'll have more success? John Harbor or

1491
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. Is that have passed his prologue? And as

1492
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: Bill Parcels says, your record is what you are. You

1493
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: are what your record says you are. But they both

1494
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: got the same record. Harbaugh and McCarthy have both coached

1495
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: eighteen years as a head coach. They've won about the

1496
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: same number of games, lost about the same number of games.

1497
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: McCarthy's got to win percentage of six and eight, John

1498
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: Harbaugh six fourteen. McCarthy's won eleven playoff games, Harbaugh's won twelve.

1499
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Speaker 2: They both won one Super Bowl. Mike McCarthy's actually won

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Speaker 2: eight division titles and John Harbaugh's won six. So one's

1501
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more buttoned up than the other. I

1502
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: get that, But when you look at their record again,

1503
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 2: how else do you judge a coach based on the

1504
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: wins and losses? You know that's what it is. So,

1505
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: I mean, we had a little fun with the Lamar

1506
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: Jackson thing. It was all over the map as well. Look,

1507
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know if this is a real top

1508
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 2: pickets out there. It's been tweeted, it's been talked about

1509
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: by Mike Floria. Hell, they may just be spray and

1510
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: cheese who was into the wind for all I know.

1511
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: This doesn't make it. I don't think it'll ever happen.

1512
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: It's one of those rumor mill things. I think if

1513
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens owner, Steve Bashatti wants to keep Jackson in Baltimore,

1514
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: he wants to extend him by March. But it does

1515
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: seem like there has been some consternation with Lamar and

1516
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 2: the Ravens, and this would be the ultimate Mark Davis move. Okay,

1517
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a zero. It's maybe close to zero.

1518
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: And I don't even know if Vegas is on board

1519
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 2: with us, but I would free up Fernando Mendoza and

1520
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: it would actually solve the Raiders quarterback problems for probably

1521
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,879
Speaker 2: the next four or five years. Lamar has had chemistry

1522
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: issues with his past staff, So it's not a zero.

1523
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: So good stuff by the callers. Greatly appreciate your thoughts tonight,

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 2: and we move onward and upward. We switched to the

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01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: NBA next a lot to talk about Medina Magic. Keep

1526
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: it locked listening to Bernie Frattle Show's right you heard

1527
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: the man, Bernie Frawdle show. He keeps rolling right along.

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frederick Keney lyon for the Fox

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01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas, till you go

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: up to three m Pacific, six am Eastern Special. Thanks

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01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: to all the great callers in the men that hour

1532
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,759
Speaker 2: as always, but we flipped to the NBA. Always plenty

1533
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: to talk about, and tonight is no different. Three simple words,

1534
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: It's that time. Mary Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: Radio NBA guru also writer for essentially Sports omnipresident in

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01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: the world of the NBA. Mark not a slow week,

1537
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: never is. And I'm not going to spend a lot

1538
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: on the Lebron thing. I think that journalist that wrote

1539
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: the article is very respectable. I'm just gonna ask I

1540
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: know the truth, but I'm gonna ask you one question.

1541
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: Will the Lakers offer Lebron a contract for next season?

1542
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 23: That is an interesting question. I think that they would

1543
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 23: offer it at a significant pay cut. So I think

1544
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 23: when you connect the dots here, this is Lebron's last

1545
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 23: season with the Lakers, but he's not going to get traded,

1546
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 23: you know. I don't think he'll wave hiss no trade clause,

1547
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 23: and I don't think the Lakers would try to do

1548
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 23: it anyway because you really can't get much out in

1549
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 23: return because of Lebron's hep to be salur fifty two

1550
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 23: million dollars. But I think they'll formally give an offer.

1551
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 23: But I think it's, you know, going to be very

1552
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 23: clear that they have to move forward, you know, the

1553
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 23: build the rash around round Luka Doctrich, and he'll be

1554
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 23: at a much steper discount. I think Lebron would be

1555
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,839
Speaker 23: interested in Yeah.

1556
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Listen, I know everybody's banding about d the three scenarios.

1557
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: He's not going to retire. I will eat Krol if

1558
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: he retires this year after the season, So he ends

1559
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: up somewhere else most likely. The reason I asked the

1560
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: question is if the Raiders do it is a check

1561
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: that the Lakers is the Lakers do it is it's

1562
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: just kind of a perfunctory thing because he's not worth

1563
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: fifty two million. I don't care what anybody.

1564
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 23: Says, Yeah, well they're they're clearly I can offer him

1565
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 23: fifty two million, but I think they would offer the

1566
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 23: idea of Hugh was willing to take a pretty steep

1567
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 23: discount with the idea of, you know, continue to play.

1568
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 23: But I would push back a little bit. I think

1569
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 23: that it's so possible that this is Lebron's final season,

1570
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 23: only because we just had to take into account forty

1571
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 23: one years old, twenty third NBA season. A lot can

1572
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 23: happen from late January end of the season as far

1573
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 23: as father time and how lethal his you know, healthy

1574
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 23: knock on the door is so yeah, I think everything

1575
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 23: is as possible at this point, but it's very very fluid.

1576
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: You know. I wasn't going to go down this show,

1577
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,919
Speaker 2: but I want to do it ever so quickly. Lebron's

1578
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: getting way too much run for this unprecedented crap. At

1579
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: forty one, how about Kareem Abdul Jabar. That was my

1580
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: era At forty years old, he made it to the

1581
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 2: NBA Finals and won, averaged twenty two points, seven rebounds,

1582
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: and three blocks. At age forty one, made it to

1583
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals again, had a great series against the Pistons,

1584
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: repeated at age forty two when they lost Byron Scott

1585
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: and Magic Johnson and the pit ended up sweeping. He's

1586
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: still he still had a good finals and an excellent season,

1587
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: and he was playing eighty games a season, seventy four

1588
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: games a season. So this time, President, anything doesn't sit

1589
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: well with me. But I I didn't have you on

1590
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: so I could rant. I wouldn't talk about that later.

1591
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 2: Let's get into some other stuff. I wanted to bring

1592
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: up the honest and now the guy's out for four

1593
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: to six weeks. What does that do to his trade

1594
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: prospects or what are your thoughts in an whole deal?

1595
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it really hurts because obviously, you know

1596
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 23: when teams want to have you Anto the Kumpo they

1597
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 23: want to have him in uniform even if he didn't

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01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 23: get injured. I was still skeptical that he would get

1599
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 23: traded before the trade deadline because I don't think the

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 23: Bucks are ready to make that tough decision. I don't

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01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 23: think it's really in Gannes's heart to demand a trade.

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01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 23: That's something that Mark Markus Johnson told me the game

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 23: season the views GANI that's someone that's very loyal. He's

1604
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 23: even doubled down on that idea when he talked with

1605
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 23: the Athletics, say that he wont it demand a trade.

1606
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 23: So I think it's about riding this season out, showing

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01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 23: that he's, you know, the company guy, he's the star

1608
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 23: that was trying to make it work and make the

1609
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 23: best of the situation. And then it's about having tough

1610
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 23: conversations this offseason. I think because of this injury, I

1611
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 23: think it just really reaffirms that that's what the reality

1612
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 23: is going to be, because you can't really deal an

1613
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 23: injured player and expect much in return.

1614
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: No, I certainly agree with that, And before Joanna Scott

1615
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: heard I was gonna, I was going to reference it

1616
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: in this context. Yanna seems to be a teflon man

1617
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: and I'm not so sure. I'm enamin with him like

1618
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: everybody else is. You know, in his last ten playoff games,

1619
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: he's one to nine. So I mean, is Giannis really

1620
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: the be all end all woul the Knicks really be

1621
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: that giddy to get him? And I don't think it's

1622
01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: gonna happen anyway.

1623
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 23: Like you said, yeah, well, look, no one's blameless here,

1624
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 23: you know, But I would say that the bucks three

1625
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 23: consecutive first round exits have little to do with Jonisumstacunpo

1626
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 23: had more to do with the rest of the roster.

1627
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 23: I mean, last season, we're looking at Damian Lillard's achilles injury.

1628
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 23: I think we can also take a fair evaluation on

1629
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 23: how Doc Rivers performed as a coach in the first round.

1630
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 23: So again, yeah, this isn't blameless, but he did put

1631
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 23: up pretty respectable numbers here. But yeah, it does show

1632
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 23: though this season he'sn't mostly playing at the MVP level.

1633
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 23: But it's still not enough because the roster is very inconsistent,

1634
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 23: and even when you have guys like Ryan Rollins and

1635
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 23: Bobby Portis and Kyle Kuzma elevate their game and show

1636
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 23: some semblance of chemistry, it's very very fickle. I mean

1637
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 23: when they were in LA a few weeks ago, at

1638
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 23: that point they were turning around and the mL then was, hey,

1639
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 23: this team has figured it out. They've they've really honed

1640
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 23: it on defensively, Anto Takumpo is embracing Doc Rivers system

1641
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 23: and he's trusting his teammates more. And two weeks later,

1642
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 23: you know, Jannis is saying how he senses the guys

1643
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 23: are trying to get their own and hunter shots and

1644
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 23: all that. So I think their identity is that they're

1645
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 23: very check and hide. And what that means moving forward

1646
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 23: is they're eleventh in the Eastern Conference and I don't

1647
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 23: be surprised to stay it that way when the season ends.

1648
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 23: And that means that not only did they miss the playoffs,

1649
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 23: they may not even be in the playing tournament. Hence,

1650
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 23: this offseason is when Giannis and the Bucks make that

1651
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 23: painful but necessary decision A part ways.

1652
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: I think that's probably gonna shake out the way you

1653
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: just described it. Speaking of other trades, now that Jimmy

1654
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: Butler has torn his acl that seems to have put

1655
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: a real monkey wrench in the Jonathan Cominga trade, and

1656
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: I heard that's getting contentious. Well, it's already been contentious,

1657
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: but I heard it got ratcheted up. You can confirm

1658
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: whether this is true or not. Mike Dunley, he said

1659
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: something about you can demand all you want, but just

1660
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: got to be in demand, meaning he doesn't see a

1661
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: lot of demand for Jonathan Kaminga on the trade market.

1662
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1663
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 23: Well, I mean we saw that last summer. There wasn't

1664
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 23: a lot of demand in the free agency market for

1665
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 23: Jonathan Kaminga. I'll push back a little bit. I mean,

1666
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 23: I think internally the Warriors do some frustration with al

1667
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 23: Jonathan Kaminga's agent has handled things with negotiations and being

1668
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 23: public about stuff. But I think the interesting thing about

1669
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 23: Kaminga is that guys like him on the team. Teammates do.

1670
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 23: Even though Steve Kerr has hand him a lot of DMPs,

1671
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 23: he likes him as well. I just think that they's

1672
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 23: a feeling that they've shown him a lot of opportunity.

1673
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 23: He doesn't take advantage of it. But I think the

1674
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 23: other thing is before Jimmy Butler's arrival, he was gained

1675
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 23: a lot of opportunity. Once Jimmy came, there was a

1676
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 23: lot of role redundancy. There's concerning about spacing. So what

1677
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 23: this means with Jimmy Butler's injury is, in a way

1678
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 23: this might dictate that Johnathan Kaminga actually stays on the

1679
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 23: Rock or because there's more of a need to keep them.

1680
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 23: But I think the other thing is what you alluded to,

1681
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 23: the market value the demand. If they're not going to

1682
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 23: get anything that really moves the needle and improves their

1683
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 23: ability to make a run at this season, they're not

1684
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 23: going to do it because they still have Steph Curry

1685
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 23: on the team. They also don't have to trade them

1686
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 23: a contrary to some belief among NBA commentators, just because

1687
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 23: it's uncomfortable. They have a team option on him next season,

1688
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 23: and there's always an appeal of trading someone on an

1689
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 23: expiring contract. So it does definitely complicate the market value

1690
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 23: for them. But because Jimmy Bowler is out there may

1691
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 23: may need that may create an enticement for the Warriors

1692
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 23: to keep them because they got to find someone to

1693
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 23: replace Jimmy's role, and when Jimmy wasn't playing, they found

1694
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 23: that Camingo was showing encouraging signs.

1695
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 2: Do with Mark Medina and Medina Magic every Saturday night

1696
01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: in the Sunday morning in Bernie Frattleshield. So I give

1697
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers credit for fighting back Saturday night in Dallas.

1698
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: They're four and six in their last ten, but this

1699
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 2: seems to be a pattern. They led by fifteen in

1700
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 2: the first half and trailed by fifteen in the second half,

1701
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: pulled it out. They trailed massively against the Clippers before

1702
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: closing the gap. They trailed in Denver before coming back.

1703
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: They're four and six in their last ten. And these

1704
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: are teams. A lot of these teams are under five hundred.

1705
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Dallas's ten games under five hundred. No Anthioney View, It's

1706
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: no Kyrie Irving. Where I'm going with this is is

1707
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 2: this a sign of things to come? They're hanging on

1708
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 2: by the skin of their teeth with the half game

1709
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: lead over Phoenix, Golden State, trailing the Clippers surging. Where

1710
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 2: do the Lakers go from here? I'm sticking to my

1711
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 2: forty two and forty, but I want to hear what

1712
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 2: you got to say.

1713
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think the Lakers their game by game. Any

1714
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 23: idea of momentum or their turn to corner, We've seen

1715
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 23: that that's fools gold. So with the Dallas Mavericks, Yeah,

1716
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 23: Luca Dodgers plays really well. When he faced as his

1717
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 23: former team, they're four to zero. He was really, you know,

1718
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 23: thriving off of the fact that he was getting MVP

1719
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 23: chance and just being back at home. I think short

1720
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 23: term encouraging signs. Lebron James played a high level, really

1721
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 23: actual more Marcus Smart made some really good plays. So

1722
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 23: what does that mean that's going to carry forward in

1723
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 23: Monday's game against Chicago. No, because, as you alluded to,

1724
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 23: they're fourteen to two at crunch time. But a lot

1725
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 23: of times those games are against poor opponents. They struggled

1726
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 23: against lead opponents. Now in the very short term, you know,

1727
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 23: they are playing teams that are under manned. They're playing

1728
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 23: the Washington Wizards on Friday. Maybe Trey Young comes back

1729
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,799
Speaker 23: at that point, but even so, they're at the bottom

1730
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 23: of the East. They're playing the Knicks next Sunday. They've

1731
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 23: been up and down the nets. They're trying to tank.

1732
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 23: So there are a lot of winnable games. But this

1733
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 23: idea that just because they played really well against Dallas

1734
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 23: means they're back in the playoff picture as a serious contender.

1735
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 23: No way they're going to make the playoffs, but they

1736
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 23: haven't shown encouraging signs that they can make sustained run.

1737
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: And not for nothing. Lebron thirty seven minutes Saturday night,

1738
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Luca thirty nine minutes Saturday night. That's spread up a

1739
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,480
Speaker 2: lot of minutes for these guys in a you know, pedestrians.

1740
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: I know there was other backstories here in Dallas Fair.

1741
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they really wanted to win this game. I

1742
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 2: think they went on a twenty nine to eight run.

1743
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 2: They were they were they played possessed.

1744
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean, ideally they keep the minutes a few lower.

1745
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 23: So that's in the mid thirties, low thirties. I think,

1746
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 23: you know, the fact that they're not playing back to

1747
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 23: back help. So I suspect that Lebron James and Luca

1748
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 23: Dodgers will be available Monday's game against Chicago. But it's

1749
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 23: always about trying to find opportunities to shave minutes so

1750
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 23: that it doesn't catch up to them, you know, later

1751
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 23: on in the season. But because of how fragile the

1752
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 23: Lakers are, they've literally had to take this game by

1753
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 23: game so they can at least compile some wins so

1754
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 23: that it can make a difference in the seedings when

1755
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 23: it comes Still avoiding the playing foram and even potentially

1756
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 23: having home court a vantage in the first round.

1757
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 2: And it's not just at Chicago Monday. If you look

1758
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 2: at the next seven days at Chicago, at Cleveland, at Washington,

1759
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 2: at New York, at Brooklyn. Now that's not Murderer's role

1760
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, New York and Cleveland are going

1761
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: to be tough. You'd expect they'd beat the Wizards, but

1762
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers haven't really looked great against teams under five

1763
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 2: hundred either. So this I feel like these next five game,

1764
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: real games, will be a bit of a referendum on

1765
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 2: what we see the rest of the year.

1766
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 23: Yeah, and I mean Cleveland obviously that's going to be

1767
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 23: pretty emotionally charged because Lebron has history there. There's inevitably

1768
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 23: going to be speculations this is final return seeing his

1769
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 23: former team before he calls it a career. Is there

1770
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 23: any possibility that he reunites with them a third time.

1771
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 23: So we talked about the emotion against Dallas because of

1772
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 23: Luca Dodgers, There's going to be even more emotion because

1773
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 23: of Lebron's connection with Cleveland, and just you know the

1774
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 23: recent attention on Lebron, the dynamic with the Lakers front office.

1775
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 23: So as we've discussed, the Lakers never seems to be interesting,

1776
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 23: and I don't expect that will change with this upcoming trip.

1777
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 2: And look ahead, because we'll be on the air to March.

1778
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: There is a period where they have six road games

1779
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: in eight days, all in a row, back to back

1780
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 2: in Houston at Miami, in Orlando, at Detroit, at Indiana.

1781
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: None of those games you could point to and say

1782
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: that's a win. That could be a tough one.

1783
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 23: Yeah, And I mean, look, the Lakers have so much

1784
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 23: stuff to figure out now that can't be really looking

1785
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 23: ahead in a month from now. I mean, we'll see

1786
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 23: what happens in that February fifth trade deadline. I doubt

1787
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 23: that the Lakers are going to be in a position

1788
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 23: to make a move simply because they don't have a

1789
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 23: lot of assets available. But in the very short term,

1790
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 23: you know, Austin Reeves expected to come back in this

1791
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 23: specific trip. Now when that is remains to be seen.

1792
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 23: But he's been doing three on three lately. He's supposed

1793
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 23: to be clear to five on five works. So even

1794
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 23: though that's not going to solve everything, because the Lakers

1795
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 23: are flawed defensively, think Austin Reefs turning back is huge

1796
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 23: because before his injury, he was playing at All Star

1797
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 23: caliber level and he co exists well with Luka Dancic,

1798
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 23: and you know that could have a trickle down effect

1799
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 23: with reducing the burn on Luka, improving the turnovers and

1800
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 23: you know that improving their transition defense indirectly. So again

1801
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 23: it's not going to solve everything, but at least it's

1802
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 23: a move in the right direction.

1803
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Mark real quickly, when is the joker do back?

1804
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 23: That remains to me saying I think what was Cagy

1805
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 23: a little bit this week as David Adalman was, was

1806
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 23: you know, conceding that there's it's been a little bit tricky,

1807
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 23: some two steps forward, one step back, one step forward,

1808
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 23: two steps back, so no defensive timeline, and knowing how

1809
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 23: the Nuggets are, I think they'd take their sweet time

1810
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 23: with Jovich because they don't want to have this emerge

1811
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 23: once again, you know, at the end of the season

1812
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 23: or heaving in the playoffs.

1813
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 2: So final thing to be fair to Lebron in Jordan's

1814
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: last season, we don't know this is Lebron's last season.

1815
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. He was in the All

1816
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Star Game, but wasn't voted as a starter, and the

1817
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: same with kreemab Gil Jubarro was in the All Star

1818
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Game in eighty nine, but not as a starter. What

1819
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: surprised you more this past week finding out Lebron will

1820
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: not be a starter, or that Bronni actually got two

1821
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 2: All Star votes.

1822
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 23: I guess Lebron Bronni gained two All Star votes. I

1823
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 23: know that that's probably player votes and they don't take

1824
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 23: it seriously, but I fully suspect Lebron will be vote

1825
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 23: as a reserve. The coaches vote for that. They tend

1826
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 23: to reward players that are veterans, and I think a

1827
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 23: lot of them have this thought that, you know what,

1828
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 23: it could be a final year. He deserves a nod.

1829
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 23: But you know what, I would also argue that on

1830
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 23: merits alone, he does deserve an All Star bit this

1831
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 23: season and say that he's been playing perfectly as defense

1832
01:36:55,880 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 23: number one, but from a offensive production standpoint and role

1833
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 23: of Justin Luca, it's been pretty good. Now, the thing is,

1834
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 23: since I suspect he'll be voted as a reserve, he's

1835
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 23: got to commit to a barring major injury, he's got

1836
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 23: to play. He's got to be part of the all surfacetivities.

1837
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 23: He can't pull something that he did last year with

1838
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 23: you at the very last minute, he says there's an

1839
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 23: injury and he sits out because that doesn't send the

1840
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 23: right message. Also deprives enough time for the league to

1841
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 23: find an alternate. So he's got to embrace what being

1842
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 23: an All Star is all about, assuming he gets voted

1843
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 23: on fair and that's.

1844
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 2: Something that'll come up pretty quickly here as we get

1845
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 2: into February. All right, Mark, good stuff. There was a

1846
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: lot of questions remaining that we'll get to in the

1847
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: coming weeks on various other teams. That'll sort out and

1848
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: we'll get to that starting next Saturday.

1849
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 23: I appreciate his always all right.

1850
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 2: Thanks. It's Mark Medina, Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio

1851
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,680
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1852
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: you can see very much as his finger on the pulse.

1853
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1854
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1872
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1873
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,320
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1874
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:16,080
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1875
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1876
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1877
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1878
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1882
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 2: about the Dallas Lakers game Saturday night, and I would

1883
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 2: have really have loved to have seen that game play.

1884
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: We're coming up Sunday. I believe next Sunday, a week

1885
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 2: from today is the one year anniversary to the day

1886
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 2: that Luca was traded to the Mavericks and coming back

1887
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 2: the other way Anthony Davis and Christy and I would

1888
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: have loved to have seen Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving

1889
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: on the floor tonight. That would have felt like a

1890
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 2: playoff game. You know, there's an old saying that the

1891
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: best ability is availability, and that leads me to my

1892
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 2: quick non sequitor about Anthony Davis, who is a supremely

1893
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: talented player, it just can't ever really stay on the

1894
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 2: floor for any extended period of time. He's had eight

1895
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 2: or nine injuries just since joining the Mavericks it hasn't

1896
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 2: even been a year in this order, and an abdomen injury,

1897
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 2: an abductor injury, an eye injury, a thigh injury, a

1898
01:40:55,120 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 2: groin injury, an achilles injury, well, a leg injury, a

1899
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 2: calf injury, now I hand Lakhmann injury. Other than that,

1900
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 2: missus Lincoln, how was to play? You have to imagine

1901
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 2: with a healthy Anthony Davis, a healthy Kyrie Irving and

1902
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: the rest of the cast, including Cooper Flag who played

1903
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 2: very well Saturday night. I thought, you've got a team

1904
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: there that's interesting. And look, injuries are a part of sport.

1905
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the history of backup quarterbacks in

1906
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs. And here's a quick tease, okay, because

1907
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 2: historically only five backup quarterbacks have started in the postseason

1908
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: due to injury. Okay, Gary Daniis and the Lions back

1909
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 2: in eighty three, Frank Reich, that game was played in

1910
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco. By the way, Gary Danis and Frank Reich

1911
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 2: for the Bills of ninety three, Joe Webb of the

1912
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 2: Vikings in twenty thirteen, Connor Cook of the Raiders twenty seventeen,

1913
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: and Nick Foles and twenty eighteen. Of those, only three

1914
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: started at home and all of them won. So Sunday

1915
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting game. It already was

1916
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Speaker 2: going to be an interesting game. But now you add

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Speaker 2: the backup quarterback factor with Jared Stidham. With all due

1918
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 2: respect Mike, the mad Dogs called him Jared Stickham. How

1919
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 2: that can't happen? Okay, this guy deserves better than that,

1920
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Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens on Sunday. It's both games

1921
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Speaker 2: are fascinating for their own for their own reasons, and frankly,

1922
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Speaker 2: the NFL is fascinating, and so is fantasy football. It

1923
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: is a big, big, probably a billion dollar business. That's

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Speaker 2: why every week at this time we feature the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 5: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 24: I got one gone, What is up everybody? I Am

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Speaker 24: Brandon Deutsch on the Burning Fredo Show. This is Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 24: And again, like I mentioned last week, we're going to

1929
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Speaker 24: be doing some dynasty rankings, some dynasty NFL draft prospect evaluations,

1930
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Speaker 24: again tougher because we don't know where these guys are

1931
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Speaker 24: going to end up. But I did want to really

1932
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 24: highlight a few players that I think are going to

1933
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Speaker 24: be great additions for your dynasty team next year, even

1934
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Speaker 24: in redraft, because these are guys that I think can

1935
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 24: contribute right away on any team, and I'll start at

1936
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 24: the tight end position because there's one tight end in

1937
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Speaker 24: this draft class that by the way, once Super Bowl

1938
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 24: is done, we're all going to be focused on the

1939
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Speaker 24: NFL Draft right for a few months. That might even

1940
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 24: get more coverage or just as much coverage as college

1941
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Speaker 24: basketball up until March Madness, and then post March Madness,

1942
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 24: it's all NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: Right.

1944
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Speaker 24: Basketball might even get less coverage and less attention than

1945
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Speaker 24: the NFL Draft at this point. Kenny On Sadik from

1946
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 24: Oregon is a great player six three, two forty five,

1947
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 24: a guy that has a vertical threat separation numbers off

1948
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 24: the charts. I could see Tampa Bay would be the

1949
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,520
Speaker 24: best fit for him, but I could also see Philadelphia

1950
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 24: trading up Dallas Goddard as a free agent if you

1951
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 24: liked what Dallas Goddard did in Philadelphia this year with

1952
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 24: the touchdowns, because he ended up being a super valuable

1953
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 24: pick in fantasy football because of all the touchdowns he

1954
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 24: got at the one yard line. Kenyon Sadik is a

1955
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 24: guy I can see them looking at, and the same

1956
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 24: goes for Tampa Bay. An offense that really needs some

1957
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 24: more juice. You don't have really a great tight end.

1958
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 24: You have wide receivers there, you have the running back,

1959
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 24: you have a good enough offensive line. Baker Mayfield, you

1960
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 24: get him another weapon. I think Kenyan SIDEQK would fit

1961
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 24: in perfectly there. I want to say Denver as well.

1962
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 24: Obviously they got to have an Ingram, but they definitely

1963
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Speaker 24: need a younger tight end. I don't think he falls

1964
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Speaker 24: that far, but I could definitely see Eli Stowers, another

1965
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Speaker 24: guy like from Vanderbilt, one of Pavia's best friends. They transferred.

1966
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Speaker 24: I believe they both played at New Mexico State. New

1967
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 24: Mexico State Aggie's Legends, and they transferred over to Vanderbilt.

1968
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Speaker 24: And Stowards is one of the best pass catchers in

1969
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 24: the class. So those are the two so tight ends

1970
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 24: I'm looking at. Obviously, fit will matter a lot. Wide receiver.

1971
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 24: I know last week at running back we talked about

1972
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 24: Jeremiah Love, but wide receiver is a very interesting class.

1973
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 24: And again, Jordan Tyson is probably the best receiver in

1974
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 24: the class. According to a lot of people. I think

1975
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 24: it's Mkay Lemon. And here's why. Mkayle Lemon yards after

1976
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 24: catch guy, not the fastest guy in the world, not

1977
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 24: also the strongest guy.

1978
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 21: In the world.

1979
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 24: He doesn't do anything sexy on the football field, but

1980
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 24: at the end of the day, he catches everything with

1981
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 24: the ball in his hands. He's unstoppable. He runs routes

1982
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 24: with the best of them. He's a smart football player.

1983
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 24: Reminds me almost like an identical i'min Ross Saint Brown.

1984
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 24: It's wild that they both went to sc because they

1985
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 24: virtually are the same player. I expect him to have

1986
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 24: a similar impact in the NFL, And I know that's

1987
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 24: saying a lot, that's putting a high bar on him

1988
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,799
Speaker 24: because a'mon, Ross Saint Brown is so good at football.

1989
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 24: But makay Lemon would be a guy I'd look at

1990
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 24: and actually the second guy I'd take in a rookie

1991
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 24: dynasty redraft league. Right like Jeremiah, he loves number one

1992
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 24: at the running back position because we know how valuable

1993
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 24: running backs are in fantasy football, and chances are he's

1994
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 24: either going to the Saints, who have Tyler Shuck and

1995
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 24: Chris Olave, or he's going to the Kansas City Chiefs

1996
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 24: at nine, which would be a dream pick because then

1997
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 24: all of a sudden, he's first round in fantasy football.

1998
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 24: If he goes to the Chiefs, but Makayle Lemons the

1999
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 24: second guy i'd take. I think he'll fit in anywhere.

2000
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 24: Baltimore is a place that he's been linked to. Miami's

2001
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 24: a place I know they need a quarterback, but that's

2002
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 24: another place, New Orleans. I wouldn't rule out the Giants

2003
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 24: taking him at five. I think he's going to impress

2004
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 24: a lot of people in the pre draft process. I

2005
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 24: really like Kayle Lemon, and I like what he can

2006
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 24: do more than Carnell Tait, who is a good vertical

2007
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 24: threat and I think will be a touchdown guy in

2008
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 24: fantasy football. But I just don't know if he has

2009
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 24: the consistency and PPR league specifically, McKay lemons better because

2010
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 24: he's a guy that's going to get, like Amanas Saint Brown,

2011
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 24: a bunch of targets per game right away, Whereas Carneal

2012
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 24: Tate more big play threat. Jordan Tyson. It's all about health.

2013
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 24: The guy's injured all the time. His brother, by the way,

2014
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 24: Jalen Tyson, great player for the Cleveland Cavaliers. It's a

2015
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 24: separate conversation, but it's athletic family. I can't see the

2016
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 24: Giants drafting an injury prone wide receiver at five just

2017
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 24: because of the MetLife injuries that have happened, and that

2018
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 24: would be a bad mix Jordan Tyson and the New

2019
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 24: York Giants there, I could see him taking Tate or Lemon.

2020
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 24: I think Lemon fits in perfectly alongside Melik Neighbors because

2021
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 24: Malik Neighbors is a vertical threat. He can also get

2022
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 24: the ball, gets the ball in his hands yards after

2023
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 24: catch guy. I think Lemon would be a perfect compliment.

2024
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 24: But I want to see Makayle Lemon or Karnel Tate

2025
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 24: on the Ravens. I think right away they can eclipse

2026
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 24: Zay Flowers as the guy and at running back. I

2027
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 24: know he spoke on Jeremiah Love. Another guy I wanted

2028
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 24: to discuss is Emmitt Johnson. Don't sleep on this guy

2029
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 24: throughout the pre draft process. Someone who can be relevant,

2030
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 24: similar to Kyle mont and guy last year for the

2031
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 24: UH for Rutgers and obviously the Chicago Bears. A late

2032
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 24: round guy. Pre draft process, people fell in love with him,

2033
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 24: including Bears and Ryan Poles. Don't sleep on Emmett Johnson

2034
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 24: being the next guy that'll go in round two or

2035
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,759
Speaker 24: three that all of a sudden wins fantasy leagues.

2036
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Next year.

2037
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 24: I know it's very early in the process, Bernie, but

2038
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 24: I appreciate it. This is Fantasy Fouls with Brandon Deutch.

2039
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 24: Will be doing more dynasty talk, more fantasy football talk,

2040
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 24: some stats in general over the next few weeks.

2041
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2042
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 24: Back to you, Bernie.

2043
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep it coming. Look, I'm an ung guy, ended

2044
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,799
Speaker 2: up on a lot of rosters, a lot of production,

2045
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 2: a lot like Isaiah Pacheco a few years before. That's

2046
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 2: where you find values. Your homework starts.

2047
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 15: Now.

2048
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 2: They say hockey teams are built in the summer, Well

2049
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 2: guess what, so are your fantasy football teams. It's just

2050
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: a serious business, big money. And by the way, draft

2051
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: and receiver fifth overall, man, I gotta tell you so.

2052
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 2: I covered ten Detroit Lions drafts as an official member.

2053
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 2: They're broadcast team from ninety eight to eight. And I'll

2054
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,799
Speaker 2: never forget the seven draft because they drafted Calvin Johnson.

2055
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: I want to say six or seventh overall, and I

2056
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: remember saying it at the time. I like the player,

2057
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: but I don't like to pick because the Lions had

2058
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 2: holes all over the place. Rod Marrinnelly came in. They

2059
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 2: were owing sixteen the next year. Not good and Calvin

2060
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 2: Johnson had a superb career, but the Lion's number one

2061
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: and Matt Stafford couldn't elevate the team. He tried, but

2062
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 2: he couldn't. So now's the time to take your notes.

2063
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: And this is always information that is forever fluid, and

2064
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 2: you try to get out ahead of it. By the way,

2065
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet

2066
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Speaker 2: paper and wondered is this as good as it gets?

2067
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Speaker 2: It's not switched to life changing wet extra flushable Dude

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2070
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Speaker 2: Coming up. We talked about We're going to talk about

2071
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 2: injured quarterbacks. How bound the NFL Conference championships. Quarterbacks who

2072
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 2: are starting three, frankly, are completely unproven. We break it down.

2073
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Speaker 2: Coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your

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Speaker 2: line from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You are listening to the Bernie Fraudle Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 2: You're back at the Bernie Fraudle Show. Fox Sports Radio.

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2080
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2081
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Speaker 2: minutes away from Denver and Seattle. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: that in just a second. But by the way, if

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Speaker 2: tonight's full show posted right after we get off The

2091
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: year Well, I think I mentioned at the top of

2092
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 2: the show, this has been the year of the coach

2093
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: and the storyline certainly revolving around Mike Vrabel and Sean McVay,

2094
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 2: and certainly especially Sean Payton, and let's not forget Mike

2095
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 2: McDonald either. All have great stories, but football quarterback Playing

2096
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 2: football is so critical and when you look at the

2097
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: final four quarterbacks, if you base it on salaries, the

2098
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: greatest expretation are going to be coming out of that

2099
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 2: Seattle Rams game. Stafford's got a total contract of eighty

2100
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: million dollars with the highest average annual value forty million

2101
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: a year. Donald's in thirty three to five, but he's

2102
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 2: got one hundred million dollar contract. Drake May is getting

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01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 2: nine point two million. You're part of a thirty eight

2104
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 2: million dollars deal. And then there's Jared Stidham. He's got

2105
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 2: a two year deal for twelve million. Why is that important?

2106
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago twenty nineteen, to be exact.

2107
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Nick Foles was coming off a two year, eleven million

2108
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 2: dollar deal, sound from mayor Jared Stidham to year twelve

2109
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 2: million dollar deal, and after leading the Eagles to the

2110
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he found himself in Jacksonville on a four year,

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01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: eighty eight million dollar deal. So Jared Stendham, whose deal

2112
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 2: is up? He's twenty nine years old. His deal is

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 2: up after next year. He could also get a new

2114
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 2: contract if he miraculously leads Denver to a Super Bowl.

2115
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 2: So here we are with our final fool, our final four,

2116
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 2: and the the quarterback pool, frankly is conspicuously unproven. Your

2117
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Speaker 2: four finalist, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Matt Stafford. Jared Stidham

2118
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Speaker 2: in Steadham, of course, is replacing bow Knicks after he

2119
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 2: injured his ankle in the Divisional round. Stafford's in his

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01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: seventh postseason. Now he's the only quarterback to have won

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01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. The Rams are playing their seventh road

2122
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 2: game in nine weeks and coincidentally or ironically, depending on

2123
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 2: how you look at it, the last team to play

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01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 2: their seventh road game in nine weeks was in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one. That would be the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: That would be the San Francisco forty nine ers who

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 2: led the Rams in the fourth quarter and the Rams

2128
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 2: won to go to the Super Bowl and beat Cincinnati.

2129
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 2: That was the game where Jakwoski Tard famously dropped Matt

2130
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Stafford's armpunt. Or Stafford would be Super Bowl winless Sam Donald.

2131
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 2: He's only twenty eight years old. How they like that? Mapples.

2132
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 2: Stidham's older than Sam Donald. He's the only other of

2133
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks who have actually made it to the playoffs

2134
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: before this year, but his lone playoff appearance came last

2135
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: season when he went one and done with the Minnesota Vikings.

2136
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 2: And for you know, people just people just aren't gonna

2137
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 2: let him off the hook for that, I am, but

2138
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 2: no one else seems to want to. Meanwhile, and so

2139
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: he's won and done. Meanwhile, Drake May, he's still only

2140
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 2: twenty three, his first postseason after being number twenty drafted

2141
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 2: third overall in the twenty twenty four draft. He was Nicks. Look,

2142
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham is really the story of these these playoffs. Now,

2143
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 2: he's only started four games in his career, none of

2144
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But when you added up the youth and

2145
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 2: the lack of playoff experience of the three remaining quarterbacks

2146
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 2: make this air relatively underpaid final four if you think

2147
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: about it, because the six highest paid quarterbacks to qualified

2148
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: for the postseason have already been eliminated. Now, whichever quarterback

2149
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: wins Super Bowl is what are we up to?

2150
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 12: Now?

2151
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 2: We are up to I think sixty fifty five. Let's

2152
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: see if you had no, we're up to court. No,

2153
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: this is this should be Super Bowl sixty I think,

2154
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: isn't it twenty twenty six? He started out, Okay, let's

2155
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 2: just go with that.

2156
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 12: Uh.

2157
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be in line for a

2158
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 2: massive raise if they can sound an extension, unless Matt

2159
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: Stafford calls it a career. Who knows he could write

2160
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 2: off into the sunset, but I'm not so sure he would.

2161
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: He turns thirty eight the day before the Super Bowl,

2162
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 2: has one year remaining on his deal. He could have

2163
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 2: theoretically sign an extension in the offseason, and it could

2164
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 2: be lucrative. He's probably gonna win the MVP and win

2165
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: a second super Bowl. If he'd wins the second super Bowl,

2166
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: that would be something to see. So I think the quarterbacks,

2167
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 2: more so than in previous years, are really going to

2168
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 2: be more talked about in this final four. Then you know,

2169
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't have the Josh Allens. You don't

2170
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 2: have the Lamar Jackson's and the Patrick Mahomes, etc. Right

2171
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: out down the line.

2172
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 17: You don't have.

2173
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 2: Rock Perdy, who's been to Super Bowl. You don't have

2174
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia has been a fixture. You don't have

2175
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, etc. You know, just two years ago this month,

2176
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 2: the Lions are on their way to the Super Bowl.

2177
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: You know what happened. But anyway it slice it. It's

2178
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: typically a quarterback league, and at this time last year,

2179
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 2: for example, everybody was focused on the rookie sensations. Jayden

2180
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 2: Daniels against Jalen Hurts in the Final four along with

2181
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and could he overcome Patrick Malomes in the

2182
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: postseason while you all know what happened there. But I'm

2183
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 2: gonna stick to my guns, and I actually think the

2184
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 2: coaches are stealing the spotlight for the season cumulatively in

2185
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Right, quarterbacks, they're crucial. A lot of

2186
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 2: quarterback you're not gonna do much. But it's the final

2187
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: four coaches who I think really defined the respective teams

2188
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 2: as well. Because when you look at Sean Payton to

2189
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 2: Denver after six straight losing seasons, Peyton comes in, gets

2190
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: the Broncos the AFC's number one seed, gets them off

2191
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: life support. And this is a storyline no one's talking about.

2192
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 2: In February of twenty ten, Sean Payton won a Super

2193
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 2: Bowl with New Orleans. They beat Indianapolis. Now, should Denver

2194
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 2: prevail this year, it would be a doubly interesting story

2195
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 2: because you do it with the backup quarterback. Not too

2196
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: dissimilar the greatest team of all time, they say, the

2197
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: seventy two Dolphins that were seventeen and oh their Hall

2198
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 2: of fame quarterback Bob Greasy went down Week six or morrow,

2199
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 2: a backup from Michigan State took over, got him to

2200
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and they won it. It's not totally unprecedented,

2201
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 2: but to turn the keys over this late in the

2202
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 2: year during the playoffs would really be unprecedented, although Nick

2203
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: Foles came close in a similar situation a few years ago.

2204
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 2: But I digress Sean m Sean Payton too many Damn

2205
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 2: Shawn's this sick guy should Denver prevail, would be the

2206
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 2: only coach in NFL history to win a Super Bowl

2207
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: with two different teams. Shula couldn't do it, Parcels couldn't

2208
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 2: do it right, and down the line. Lebarti didn't do it,

2209
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Belichick Shire didn't do it. Sean Payton could be an

2210
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 2: incredibly rarefied air. But how about Mike vrabel. He also

2211
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: got the Patriots off of life support. There were four

2212
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 2: and thirteen last year, and they were four and thirteen

2213
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 2: years before. Now they're the number two seed in the AFC.

2214
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 8: Now.

2215
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, who I think continues to be the model

2216
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 2: of consistency in my view, he faces Mike McDonald's Seattle counterpart,

2217
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 2: who really kind of People have joked that Mike McDonald

2218
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 2: is sort of the Sean McVay of defense, and they're

2219
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 2: both under forty. Although it's my understanding, I think I

2220
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:53,839
Speaker 2: gotta double check this. I believe Sean McVeigh turns forty today.

2221
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 2: And again another storyline the Rams DC, Chris Shula and

2222
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. We'll see Klint Kubiak. It's reasonable to assume

2223
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 2: and possibly that both of them end up with new

2224
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 2: teams next year as a head coach. It would not

2225
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 2: surprise me to see both of them get head coaching jobs,

2226
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: although it is getting a little late in the cycle.

2227
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: So what's interesting is another side goofy note it's Sean

2228
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 2: versus Mike in both conferences and each faces their clearly

2229
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: their biggest tests of the season and all nothing's on

2230
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: the line, just a super Bowl. And so the home

2231
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 2: field advantage, and we'll get to this a little more later,

2232
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 2: very significant. The Broncos are the best home team in

2233
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 2: the league, nine at one a mile high sixty to

2234
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: one on home AFC championships. And yes, as I talked

2235
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 2: about this with Steve Ezik earlier in the show, you

2236
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 2: can pooh pooh what those home wins. Well, those were

2237
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 2: with other teams and other rosters, but every single one

2238
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 2: of them was at d and eighty feet and yes,

2239
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 2: playing at that altitude matter, it matters a lot. How

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Speaker 2: about Seattle's home field advantage. Seattle's twelfth man is legendary.

2241
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 2: Lewminfield gets louder and louder, and I don't care what

2242
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 2: you call the stadium, but the Rams offense seems to

2243
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 2: level up on the road. They average thirty one points

2244
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 2: a game compared to twenty nine at home. So how

2245
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 2: much how it's significant will the home field be Well,

2246
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 2: we'll see. We've got some matchups we'll get to a

2247
02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 2: little bit later. Matt Stafford versus the Seahawks underneath the fenders,

2248
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold versus the Rams disguises, Jared's didn't versus the

2249
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 2: Pats will Campbell their pass rush. We'll get to it all,

2250
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Speaker 2: but keep it locked. Coming up. The Bernie Fowdle Show

2251
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Speaker 2: continues on five. That's right, you heard the man. The

2252
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 2: Bernie Frawdle Show keeps rolling right along. My name is

2253
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Speaker 2: Bernie Frawdle' Kenedy Lyon from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2254
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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. We'll take you up to three am Pacific

2255
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 2: six am Eastern. We're about ten hours away from kickoff

2256
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 2: and what should be a terrific NFL Conference Championship Sunday.

2257
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 2: Wait for the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure

2258
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Speaker 2: to tune in to Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff

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2260
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2261
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 2: right up until kickoff. For all the best plays up

2262
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2264
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart App. I said

2265
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 2: I would do this before the end of the show

2266
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 2: that I'm going to How did Indiana do this? Were

2267
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 2: what made them so special? I'm gonna get to that

2268
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 2: in just a second. But there's always going to be debate.

2269
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 2: People want to know, is this the greatest championship story

2270
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 2: of all time? It's just the greatest comeback of all time.

2271
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 2: It's just for the most rewarding, heartwarming story of all time.

2272
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:49,880
Speaker 2: We talk about Indiana University as national champs, undefeated in

2273
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 2: football sixteen and zero no one's ever done that, No

2274
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 2: one's ever gone sixteen to Oh, but you're going to

2275
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 2: get arguments from people around the country. There are folks

2276
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 2: who think, for since the twenty sixteen Chicago Cubs was

2277
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 2: more of a heartwarming great championship story, right, a Chicago

2278
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 2: Cubs World Series title. Frankly, it might have seemed more

2279
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 2: unachievable than Indiana right and not unlike Indiana's football timeline,

2280
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 2: the Cubs were a last place team just two seasons

2281
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: before they won it in twenty sixteen, and pass Cubs

2282
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: teams had failed so miserably under high expectations, and the

2283
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 2: title would not come easy. Remember, the Cubs were down

2284
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 2: three to one. They eventually pulled it out in seven games,

2285
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 2: but even blew a late lead in the final game,

2286
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 2: and then there was a rain delay after nine innings

2287
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 2: that added all the drama and the most elusive championship

2288
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 2: professional sports I think at that time certainly was the

2289
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 2: Cubs doesn't supersed Indiana. I don't know now I live

2290
02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. How about the twenty twenty three

2291
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 2: on Vegas Golden or the Vegas Golden Knights. Hockey. Now,

2292
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 2: expansion teams aren't supposed to succeed, at least not right away.

2293
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,919
Speaker 2: But the Vegas Golden Knights in their inaugural season seventeen

2294
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, they made it to the Stanley

2295
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 2: Cup finals and even won Game one against Washington. There

2296
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 2: are franchises who spent decades trying to reach a Cup final,

2297
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 2: that's the Toronto Mayple Leafs, but a expansion team in

2298
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 2: the desert in a non traditional market doing it the

2299
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 2: first season. Now, the difference between Indiana Football and the

2300
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:39,879
Speaker 2: Golden Knights is how long they've existed Indiana. At times

2301
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 2: they weren't even the number one or number two program

2302
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 2: in their own state. Easily not right, but this two

2303
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: year turnaround changed everything. The Golden Knights, who'd only been

2304
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 2: around five years, but they end up winning a Stanley

2305
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 2: Cup in twenty twenty three. They maintained their win it

2306
02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 2: all costs mentality. So I don't know if the Knights

2307
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Speaker 2: are a better story than Indiana. Now. You can't not

2308
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 2: have this conversation without mentioning Leicester City. Leicester City had

2309
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 2: a run to the Premier League title ten years ago.

2310
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Speaker 2: One English book maker had Leicester City at five thousand

2311
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: and one on It's the same odds it gave Elvis

2312
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 2: Presley being found alive. Now, you could have got Indiana

2313
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 2: at one hundred to one this year this year, and

2314
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 2: they made the playoffs last year. Now, not everybody follows soccer,

2315
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 2: but I know a lot of folks at least know

2316
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 2: about Leicester City.

2317
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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: Soccer is a lot like some American sports. It's haves

2319
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:44,600
Speaker 2: and have nots. They didn't want parody. There are a

2320
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Speaker 2: few premier teams that had less talented lester. But look,

2321
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 2: they had a couple superstars hiding and playing spike, but

2322
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 2: you didn't know it because they had a bunch of

2323
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 2: cast offs and turned into stars and they went on

2324
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,840
Speaker 2: route to a championship. Kind of like people talking to

2325
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 2: Indiana's two star players versus all the Miami's five star players.

2326
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: But for my money, when Indiana defeated Miami in the

2327
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff National Championship Game Monday night, I think

2328
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:18,240
Speaker 2: it completed the most remarkable sports turnaround in history his

2329
02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 2: recent as. Midway through this season, the Hoosiers were still

2330
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 2: the all time losing its program in Division One. They

2331
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 2: hadn't even enjoyed a double digit win season in program history,

2332
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:34,879
Speaker 2: and they'd only gotten close a few times. Indiana football,

2333
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 2: by any measure, was the least successful team in Division

2334
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Speaker 2: One of a major conference, and that's not arguable until

2335
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti showed up at the end of the twenty

2336
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 2: twenty three season. Signetti took over and instantly made them relevant.

2337
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 2: Indiana was eleven and two in their first season, losing

2338
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 2: only to Ohio State and Utre Dame. This year, they

2339
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 2: were sixty to oo in their second year. Now that

2340
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,959
Speaker 2: inspired a lot of questions and a lot of arguments.

2341
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 2: Was this the greatest story in sport, the greatest history

2342
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 2: in sports history? We got one guy or not network

2343
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 2: that thinks are frauds. Everybody's entitled their opinion. So I

2344
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 2: don't know if you can have a definitive answer about

2345
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 2: any of this. And that's what makes a horse race.

2346
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 2: People arguing about sports. It's what we do. But let

2347
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 2: me give you you know, there are objective truths and

2348
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 2: there are personal feelings. I'm going to give you some

2349
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 2: objective truths and why I think not only is this

2350
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 2: a great turnaround story, but the way they did it,

2351
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 2: and if you want to know how they were so dominant,

2352
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 2: Remember they looked remarkable when they rode Alabama like a

2353
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 2: stick horse, beating them thirty eight to three. Then they

2354
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 2: put up fifty six against Oregon, it beat them by

2355
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 2: thirty four points. So then when their first two games

2356
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 2: over Alabama and Oregon by a combined sixty nine points,

2357
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 2: beat Oregon the second time in the same season, coming

2358
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 2: up against Miami in the hard Rock Stadium, you get

2359
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 2: the undisputed best team in the sport. The Hoosiers didn't

2360
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 2: trail for a single moment in the entire playoff. You

2361
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 2: heard that right? When have you seen that kind of domination?

2362
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 2: They didn't trail for a single moment the entire playoff.

2363
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 2: But let me give you some other impressive stats. These

2364
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 2: are objective truths, not personal feelings. This is how Indiana

2365
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 2: and why Indiana looks so dominant. You know how many

2366
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 2: turnovers Miami had checked at Indiana had during the playoffs?

2367
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 2: Zero zero. That's right, Indiana didn't turn the ball over

2368
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:54,440
Speaker 2: a single time against Alabama, Oregon, or Miami. Not a

2369
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 2: single Mendoza interception, not a single fumble, not even a

2370
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 2: turnover on downs. Meanwhile, Oregon turned the ball over three

2371
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 2: times in the first half alone in the Peach Bowl.

2372
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 2: So in the playoffs, or check that during the season,

2373
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers had a plus twenty two turnover margin that

2374
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 2: was the best in the country. As matter of fact,

2375
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 2: they only lost one fumble all season. So it was

2376
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 2: fitting that the Hoosiers defense came down with that game

2377
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 2: sealing interception when Jamari Sharp, who coincidentally was also a

2378
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 2: Miami native, picked off Carson Beck forty eight seconds ago,

2379
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 2: game set match. So Indiana never trailed in the playoff,

2380
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:41,840
Speaker 2: They never had a single turnover. How about this? And

2381
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 2: I talked about this. How could Miami beat I talked

2382
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 2: about this when I signed off my show last Saturday.

2383
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 2: How could Miami beat Indiana? Well, first of all, they

2384
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 2: were going to have to win the rushing battle, which

2385
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 2: I believe they did. They were going to have to

2386
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 2: win the title possession battle, which they didn't. And I'm

2387
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 2: not even gonna mention the turnovers to know about that.

2388
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 2: But the third down rate was something that Indiana could

2389
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 2: not or Miami could not survive and win. If Indiana,

2390
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 2: who had been a ridiculous twenty two to twenty eight

2391
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 2: on third downs heading into the Miami game, if that

2392
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 2: its success rate continued, well it did. No team in

2393
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 2: the country was better than Indiana on third down this year,

2394
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:37,320
Speaker 2: and the playoff was no exception. Over the prior three games,

2395
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers are twenty six and forty three, a sixty

2396
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 2: one percent six that's rate. They went nine to fourteen

2397
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 2: against Alabama, eleven fourteen against Oregon, and six to fifteen

2398
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 2: against Miami on a night when the Hurricanes were only

2399
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 2: three of eleven on third down. As a matter of fact,

2400
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers offense was so efficient it only attempted two

2401
02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 2: fourth downs all playoff, both of which came on Monday

2402
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 2: night and both were successful. How about penalties? You know,

2403
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 2: games at most levels are not won, they're lost. You

2404
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 2: cannot give a team, you know, extra possessions by turning

2405
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 2: the ball over penalties. The Hoosiers had two massive, out

2406
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 2: of character penalties late in the fourth quarter that looked

2407
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 2: like it might potentially have cost in the game. First

2408
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 2: was a false start from Carter Smith on second and

2409
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,560
Speaker 2: one with less than two minutes to play that led

2410
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 2: to Indiana ultimately settling for a field goal to end

2411
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 2: that drive that kept the door open for Miami. Miami

2412
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 2: would get the ball down just twenty seven to twenty

2413
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 2: one with a chance to win. Then Indiana also had

2414
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:49,000
Speaker 2: a roughing the passer penalty during the Hurricanes final drive

2415
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 2: that gave Miami another free fifteen yards. But Indiana hung

2416
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 2: on because when you added up the reason they were

2417
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 2: in there position never trailed the entire playoffs, etc. Until that,

2418
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 2: you know, including into the final game. If you look

2419
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 2: throughout the entire playoffs, the entire playoffs, we're talking about

2420
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 2: twelve quarters of football. The Hoosiers out a total of

2421
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 2: eleven penalties in those three games for seventy one yards

2422
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 2: hell eleven penalties. That's a good half for the Raiders.

2423
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 2: They were clean all year too. They finished second in

2424
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 2: the country in penalty yards per game, only behind Army.

2425
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 2: Give it up to Army. How about Fernando Mendoza nine touchdowns?

2426
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 2: He threw eight touchdown passes during the playoffs, but his

2427
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown on Monday Night, Will Go Down is one

2428
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 2: of the all time greatest plays highlight reels leading to

2429
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 2: a national championship game in college football history period. And

2430
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 2: as noted, Mendoza didn't turn the ball over once in

2431
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff and he finished the three game

2432
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,080
Speaker 2: run with five hundred and fifty five passing year y.

2433
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 2: Mendoza also finished the final season of college football two

2434
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 2: seventy three of three seventy nine for a seventy two

2435
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:12,120
Speaker 2: percent completion pack percentage to along with thirty six center

2436
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:15,480
Speaker 2: yards forty one touchdowns against six picks. Yes, he's the

2437
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 2: favorite to go number one to the Raiders in the

2438
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:25,520
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, and for good reason. So zero turnovers, never trailed,

2439
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:29,000
Speaker 2: eleven penalties for a total of seventy one yards, and

2440
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:32,400
Speaker 2: twelve cords of football converted the third down rates at

2441
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 2: sixty one percent, and their star, Fernando Mendoza was absolutely spectacular.

2442
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 2: I shared the numbers he just gave. You know, there's

2443
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 2: a saying every day a new star was born in America.

2444
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:47,160
Speaker 2: I bet you never heard of Charlie Becker. Well, college

2445
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:49,920
Speaker 2: football fans probably had. He didn't get on the field

2446
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 2: for most of the year till someone got hurt. He's

2447
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 2: only a sophomore. Charlie Becker entered Monday Night's game with

2448
02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 2: thirty catches. He's a wide receiver for Indiana. Two massive

2449
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 2: clutch moments. He entered the game with thirty catches for

2450
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 2: six hundred and fourteen yards. By the way, ninety percent

2451
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:13,400
Speaker 2: of those yards came after November. He saved his best

2452
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,760
Speaker 2: football for when it mattered most. Can you be great

2453
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,040
Speaker 2: when it demands greatness? He made the two biggest catches

2454
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 2: of his career against Miami and another catch that certainly

2455
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 2: will be a part of Indiana lore. Becker came down

2456
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 2: with a nineteen yard reception on fourth and five when

2457
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:34,000
Speaker 2: Indiana attempted his first fourth down of the playoff. That

2458
02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 2: was about the fourth quarter had just started. There was

2459
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 2: about eleven twelve minutes left his he had a catch,

2460
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:41,840
Speaker 2: he kept the drive alive, and then a few minutes later,

2461
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers take that ten point lead. That was because

2462
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 2: of the Mendoza here heroics right and the run I

2463
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: just told you about. But later in the quarter, about

2464
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 2: three minutes to play, he came up with another clutch

2465
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:54,880
Speaker 2: catch on third and seven for nineteen yards that set

2466
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 2: up Indiana for a field goal, which gave him the

2467
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 2: six point lead with two minutes to play. And see

2468
02:13:59,880 --> 02:14:02,960
Speaker 2: what the game now. Becker was a three star recruit

2469
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 2: coming out of Nashville in the class of twenty twenty four,

2470
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 2: and oh by the way, he checked in as the

2471
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:13,640
Speaker 2: nine hundred and seventy seventh prospect in the nation and

2472
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: the number one hundred and thirty wide receiver. Then he

2473
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 2: had a quarterback thrown to him that Miami didn't even

2474
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 2: want as a walk on. By the way, Charlie Becker

2475
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:28,280
Speaker 2: finished Monday with four catches on seven targets sixty five

2476
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:32,800
Speaker 2: yards and they were all critical. Not too shabby. So

2477
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 2: is Indiana the greatest story? You tell me? They never

2478
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 2: trailed in the playoff, didn't commit a turnover in the playoffs,

2479
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:43,560
Speaker 2: sixty one percent conversion rate, only eleven penalties for Nanimen,

2480
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:47,600
Speaker 2: those of nine touchdowns including that sentational run, and guys

2481
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 2: who became household names like Charlie Becker. I think it

2482
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,200
Speaker 2: completes one of the most remarkable turnarounds in sports history.

2483
02:14:55,240 --> 02:15:01,120
Speaker 2: If not the greatest, it's perhaps the greatest story. That's

2484
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:05,400
Speaker 2: my story, and I'm sticking to it. By the way,

2485
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:09,000
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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Take after three and Pacific six am Eastern.

2502
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 2: So six down, four to go. There are four remaining

2503
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 2: jobs left in our openings for head coach in the

2504
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 2: National Football League. The Arizona Cardinals, who conveniently lost fourteen

2505
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 2: in their last fifteen games, had a ton of injuries.

2506
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 2: They were a bad football team. And it looks like

2507
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:28,360
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's season or checked that time with Arizona, it

2508
02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:31,800
Speaker 2: is probably done. And even if he comes back, is

2509
02:16:31,880 --> 02:16:34,240
Speaker 2: that great. I don't know what happened there, but it

2510
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:37,959
Speaker 2: went off a cliff like an anvilent a bugs Bunny cartoon.

2511
02:16:38,480 --> 02:16:40,880
Speaker 2: So there's no quarterback, the team's best player as a

2512
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 2: tight end. The defense was bottom six and points in

2513
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 2: yards allowed, and the franchise has had one playoff appearance,

2514
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:52,119
Speaker 2: lost in their only game in the last twelve years.

2515
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:55,119
Speaker 2: I don't know if they draft a quarterback through it overall.

2516
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great job or not.

2517
02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:59,280
Speaker 2: But it's sure been a dead end job for many years,

2518
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:01,760
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's going to be a

2519
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:05,960
Speaker 2: good job any time soon. Although I shouldn't say that.

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02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:07,879
Speaker 2: They're only two thirty two of these in the whole world,

2521
02:17:08,520 --> 02:17:13,040
Speaker 2: so they're all good. Actually, now the Cleveland Browns, and

2522
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 2: I heard somebody say that, you know, wor's the results

2523
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 2: been for Kevin Stefanski. Why do you think he got

2524
02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:21,440
Speaker 2: two time coach of the Year. Okay, he was stuck

2525
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 2: with Deshaun Watson, Joe Frank Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, and shid

2526
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:27,400
Speaker 2: Or Sanders in a rotating cast of a bunch of

2527
02:17:27,480 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks. Then many are probably working at nap Allo parts. Now,

2528
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that's good good? Could you know clean

2529
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:40,240
Speaker 2: Christian values? Kevin Stefanski had to endure the Deshaun Watson debacle.

2530
02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 2: Acquiring him was probably the worst trade NFL history. And

2531
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:44,560
Speaker 2: the geam who was on the job and it was

2532
02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:48,960
Speaker 2: made Andrew Berry. He's still there. Jimmy Haslam has a

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02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 2: terrible track record as a team owner. And the hope

2534
02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:55,320
Speaker 2: for the Browns is maybe their strong twenty twenty five

2535
02:17:55,400 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 2: rookie class is going to be maybe producing results. Else.

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02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 2: Stevanski's long gone and he's gonna be fine. He's a

2537
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:08,680
Speaker 2: good coach. So that's a second opening. The Raiders. Okay,

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02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:12,280
Speaker 2: come on, man, the Raiders are and have been a

2539
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:17,480
Speaker 2: flailing organization. They're paying five coaches not working anymore, a

2540
02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:20,080
Speaker 2: total of fifty million dollars. Oh, I got a he

2541
02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:23,720
Speaker 2: he's just saying that. Last year they hired the oldest

2542
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. And to be fair, I thought

2543
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:30,160
Speaker 2: the Pete Carroll fire was okay, I did, and then

2544
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:32,800
Speaker 2: I found out he hand picked Chip Kelly, hand picked

2545
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,160
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, hand picked a running back sixth overall. Nothing

2546
02:18:36,200 --> 02:18:39,240
Speaker 2: against asine genty, but to be drafted that high in

2547
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 2: a situation like that, when you got needs all over

2548
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 2: the field, you tell me if that was work worked out? Well,

2549
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 2: they went three to fourteen. Carroll's gone, Kelly's gone, there

2550
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 2: doesn't really seem to be any plan. They're meandering. The

2551
02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 2: search for Pete Carroll's replacement, I understand, is being led

2552
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:59,040
Speaker 2: by a GM John Spytech. He's a bright guy to

2553
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:02,240
Speaker 2: Michigan and Tom Brady, who I don't they call him

2554
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 2: the limited owner. I don't know what the deal his

2555
02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:07,760
Speaker 2: deal is here. I just don't great quarterback with no

2556
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:10,200
Speaker 2: real track record of helping lead a coaching search does he.

2557
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:12,560
Speaker 2: But he's a big name and that's what Mark Davis

2558
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:14,880
Speaker 2: seems to like. That's why we had a little fun

2559
02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:18,320
Speaker 2: on the on the midnight hour earlier. Could you see

2560
02:19:18,440 --> 02:19:21,280
Speaker 2: you know? Would you like to see Lamar Jackson go

2561
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 2: to the Raiders? The one selling point to a new

2562
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:27,160
Speaker 2: coach would be having the first overall draft pick, and

2563
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:31,240
Speaker 2: you got Brock Bowers stud Ashton Genty. He's got a

2564
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 2: rule in this league. I'm not one hundred percent sure

2565
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:34,800
Speaker 2: what it is yet he's going to need a lot

2566
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:37,560
Speaker 2: of help. He ain't Barry Sanders, he ain't Adrian Peterson,

2567
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:42,080
Speaker 2: He's not He's Sakuon Barkley. So when you drafted that high,

2568
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:44,040
Speaker 2: you're asking for trouble, and I don't you know what.

2569
02:19:44,200 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 2: It's not a zero that Max Crosby's not here next

2570
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:49,640
Speaker 2: year with the Raiders. I'm not predicting it, but it

2571
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:51,760
Speaker 2: didn't end well, and I think it's very afraid there

2572
02:19:52,440 --> 02:19:55,080
Speaker 2: There are some things to like. I think, in my

2573
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:58,520
Speaker 2: humble opinion, it's a good job because if you are

2574
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:02,080
Speaker 2: the guy who who gets the Raiders back to the

2575
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:05,840
Speaker 2: Promised Land, this one time iconic organization, you'll walk on water.

2576
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,240
Speaker 2: You got one hundred million dollars in cap space, you

2577
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:12,400
Speaker 2: got a wonderful city to live in, fantastic facilities, and

2578
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 2: you know draft capital, and then finally the Buffalo Bills.

2579
02:20:17,959 --> 02:20:19,760
Speaker 2: You have to wonder if this job would be open

2580
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 2: if that was a catch last week. The Bill's job

2581
02:20:23,320 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 2: is a good job. The problem is that press conference

2582
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:28,640
Speaker 2: the other days spooked a lot of people. That those

2583
02:20:28,680 --> 02:20:30,760
Speaker 2: people say people would take the job at a heartbeat

2584
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:33,959
Speaker 2: if they offered it to them. But the one thing

2585
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,920
Speaker 2: that does come with is a lot of immediate pressure

2586
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:39,199
Speaker 2: that those other jobs don't have. Josh Allen turns thirty

2587
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:41,720
Speaker 2: next year and the organization is starting to feel the

2588
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:44,600
Speaker 2: heat to get to a super Bowl. With Josh Allen,

2589
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:49,360
Speaker 2: you fire Sean mcdernett despite seven straight playoff appearances. There

2590
02:20:49,400 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 2: will be no adjustment period, There'll be no grace period,

2591
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:54,040
Speaker 2: there'll be no honeymoon period. He'll be expected to make

2592
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:56,800
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl right away, or who knows what happens.

2593
02:20:57,240 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 2: They'll be, you know, flogged. Tough deal. The roster's flawed

2594
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:05,200
Speaker 2: by the way around Josh Allen. But the opportunity to

2595
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:07,080
Speaker 2: coach a player like Allen and the prime doesn't come

2596
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:10,160
Speaker 2: along very often. That makes it right then and there,

2597
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:13,960
Speaker 2: a big job and you can deal with the heat

2598
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 2: that comes along with it. You don't get into this

2599
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:19,040
Speaker 2: business because you're a shrinking violet. Which brings me to

2600
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:25,360
Speaker 2: the headline. Friday, the Bills interviewed Philip Rivers for their

2601
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:30,200
Speaker 2: vacant head coaching job. Rivers forty four years old. You

2602
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 2: saw him come out of retirement this season to be

2603
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:36,440
Speaker 2: the Colts quarterback after Daniel Jones got hurt. He's currently

2604
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:40,040
Speaker 2: the head coach at Saint Michael Catholic High School. I

2605
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:43,040
Speaker 2: think it's in Alabama and he's held that job for

2606
02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:49,040
Speaker 2: five years, forty three and fifteen record during his tenure. Now,

2607
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:53,360
Speaker 2: the Bills are the first team to interview him in

2608
02:21:53,480 --> 02:21:58,160
Speaker 2: this year's coaching cycle, and if somehow Rivers got the job,

2609
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:01,680
Speaker 2: he would be the first first time NFL head coach

2610
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:06,600
Speaker 2: without any previous college or pro coaching experience since nineteen

2611
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 2: sixty one. Now we know that the Colts hired Jeff

2612
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 2: Saturday on an interim basis. A couple three years ago

2613
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,760
Speaker 2: they pad four mentioned Raiders here in Vegas that that

2614
02:22:17,959 --> 02:22:21,600
Speaker 2: was that was that was a beauty right. And look

2615
02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:26,280
Speaker 2: when I saw that, I didn't lose my mind about

2616
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:29,360
Speaker 2: it like some people did, for the simple reason, how

2617
02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:32,840
Speaker 2: many more of these retreads you got to hire guys

2618
02:22:32,959 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 2: sue in the NFL, guys who flamed out in other jobs,

2619
02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:38,959
Speaker 2: and the path to the by the way, just because

2620
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 2: you were a great OC or a DC. Yeah, that

2621
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:43,960
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be the next Sean McVay or Mike McDonald.

2622
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 2: Good luck with that one. So I'm very much for

2623
02:22:46,680 --> 02:22:49,480
Speaker 2: outside the box hires. I don't know if he's going

2624
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,720
Speaker 2: to get the job. I really don't, but I wouldn't,

2625
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think people should be losing their

2626
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:59,120
Speaker 2: minds if he does, because you know, people say they've

2627
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:01,080
Speaker 2: never seen a coaching so like this. Well, just two

2628
02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 2: years to check that twenty twenty one, you had ten

2629
02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:07,560
Speaker 2: openings and they all got filled the course. Well, guess

2630
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 2: what eight of them have already been fired since. Go

2631
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:13,320
Speaker 2: back to the smiles and the hugs, and the press

2632
02:23:13,360 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 2: conferences and the yuck at it up and hugging it

2633
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:18,520
Speaker 2: out in Kumbaya and holding up the jerseys and this

2634
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 2: and that with the speeches, We've seen it all. I

2635
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:24,280
Speaker 2: saw my ten years in Detroit over and over and

2636
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:28,200
Speaker 2: over and over again. So whatever happens with the Philip

2637
02:23:28,280 --> 02:23:31,680
Speaker 2: Rivers remains to be seen. I will tell you this.

2638
02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:35,480
Speaker 2: There was a coach that the Colts hired many many, many,

2639
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:39,960
Speaker 2: many many many many many years ago in the sixties.

2640
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:42,720
Speaker 2: He had never been a head coach on any level.

2641
02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:46,480
Speaker 2: His name was Don Shula. So don't be so quick

2642
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:49,880
Speaker 2: to judge. Let's see how this plays out. Speaking of

2643
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:53,560
Speaker 2: the other football, spell it futbol, we also covered here,

2644
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:57,760
Speaker 2: and wow, we're almost into February World Cups. Right around

2645
02:23:57,800 --> 02:24:00,600
Speaker 2: the corner. It's time Chris purfets world soccer.

2646
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 5: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international dramai.

2647
02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:16,600
Speaker 2: I am the level.

2648
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:21,080
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2649
02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:25,120
Speaker 25: With the World Cup looming on the horizon, there is

2650
02:24:25,440 --> 02:24:28,120
Speaker 25: bound to be some news regarding that, and in this one,

2651
02:24:28,280 --> 02:24:31,760
Speaker 25: it's not one of the best bits of news, mostly

2652
02:24:31,879 --> 02:24:34,960
Speaker 25: because it is a bit of news that I've kind

2653
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:38,480
Speaker 25: of been expecting for a while and it is going

2654
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:40,440
Speaker 25: to be a little difficult. So I'm going to try

2655
02:24:40,520 --> 02:24:43,080
Speaker 25: to go blow by blow on all of this. But

2656
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 25: there was news out of Germany on Friday, January twenty

2657
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:53,959
Speaker 25: third where a Soccer German Federation executive committee member, Okay,

2658
02:24:54,080 --> 02:24:55,519
Speaker 25: Gutlich and excuse.

2659
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:56,360
Speaker 2: Me if I am getting that wrong.

2660
02:24:56,440 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 25: He is the president of the Bundesliga club Saint Pauli

2661
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:02,879
Speaker 25: and one of the federation's ten vice presidents. He spoke

2662
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:06,880
Speaker 25: with a Hamburg newspaper in an interview on Friday that

2663
02:25:07,080 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 25: said it is time to has come to seriously consider

2664
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:15,520
Speaker 25: and discuss the need for a World Cup boycott. Now

2665
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:18,320
Speaker 25: I understand that to a lot of American sports he

2666
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 25: is seen as a pure and almost inviolate refuge from

2667
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:25,280
Speaker 25: problems plaguing the rest of the world. But in the

2668
02:25:25,360 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 25: realm of international sports, this has always never really been

2669
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:35,720
Speaker 25: a magic circle. FIFA's president Yanni Infantino, gave Donald Trump

2670
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:40,840
Speaker 25: a Peace Award earlier in twenty twenty five, in a

2671
02:25:40,959 --> 02:25:44,520
Speaker 25: very transparent move to try to curry favor to make

2672
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:46,279
Speaker 25: sure Trump wouldn't do anything.

2673
02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:48,200
Speaker 4: Reckless in regards to the World Cup.

2674
02:25:48,560 --> 02:25:51,440
Speaker 25: Unfortunately, that Peace Prize is aged like sour milk, as

2675
02:25:51,520 --> 02:25:55,720
Speaker 25: Trump has engaged not just in affairs domestic but across

2676
02:25:56,680 --> 02:26:01,560
Speaker 25: in Europe, where he has rattled his so severely about

2677
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:05,920
Speaker 25: the prospects of taking Greenland from the country of Denmark,

2678
02:26:05,959 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 25: which is a member of NATO, a member of the

2679
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:11,959
Speaker 25: European Union, and a member of UEFA, the last one,

2680
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 25: of course, being for soccer and sport. That, along with

2681
02:26:15,959 --> 02:26:19,640
Speaker 25: reprisal tariffs, trade wars, and things of that nature, has

2682
02:26:19,720 --> 02:26:23,760
Speaker 25: led some to question how exactly the World Cup will

2683
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:28,880
Speaker 25: go on. This is to say nothing of various policies

2684
02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:32,480
Speaker 25: of the Trump administration that it would bar supporters from

2685
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:35,440
Speaker 25: some of the countries competing in the World Cup from

2686
02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 25: even being able to travel to the United States, to

2687
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:41,560
Speaker 25: say nothing about the border chaos being brought along by

2688
02:26:41,640 --> 02:26:45,960
Speaker 25: this administration when it comes to jumping around between Canada,

2689
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:47,680
Speaker 25: the United States, and Mexico.

2690
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:50,440
Speaker 4: Because this is a three country split World Cup.

2691
02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 25: Now, I think the context I want to talk about

2692
02:26:54,400 --> 02:26:58,119
Speaker 25: is first a little bit on Gautlich and his club

2693
02:26:58,200 --> 02:26:58,760
Speaker 25: Saint Pauli.

2694
02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:02,360
Speaker 4: Saint Pauli is not one to ever shy away from

2695
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:03,400
Speaker 4: political discourse.

2696
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:07,480
Speaker 25: This was a club that really found its footing in

2697
02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:12,720
Speaker 25: the nineteen eighties by providing an anti fascism tint. They

2698
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:16,640
Speaker 25: saw the rising tide of hard right wing politics in

2699
02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 25: supporter groups like say Lazio, which we've talked about before,

2700
02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:23,640
Speaker 25: is haven for Neo Nazis in Italy. Likewise, there were

2701
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:29,480
Speaker 25: attempts by Neo Nazis to infiltrate the soccer culture of Germany,

2702
02:27:29,560 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 25: and Saint Pauli was really the vanguard against a lot

2703
02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:32,520
Speaker 25: of that.

2704
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 4: Now, the other context I would like to talk.

2705
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:39,200
Speaker 25: About is that the World Cup has been boycotted before.

2706
02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:41,360
Speaker 25: I don't think any of them have been as high

2707
02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:45,959
Speaker 25: profile as say the reciprocal boycotts of the Summer Olympics

2708
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:49,680
Speaker 25: that happened in nineteen eighty in Moscow and nineteen eighty

2709
02:27:49,800 --> 02:27:52,960
Speaker 25: four in Los Angeles, which saw the United States in

2710
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:58,960
Speaker 25: the USSR consecutively ducking each other over accusations, especially towards

2711
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:04,320
Speaker 25: the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan in nineteen eighty and other

2712
02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 25: issues that were going around the World Cup's a little

2713
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 25: bit different, but it has been boycotted nine times in

2714
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:15,200
Speaker 25: the past, all of course via individual teams rather than

2715
02:28:15,320 --> 02:28:19,240
Speaker 25: coordinated blocks. But it is fascinating to watch the three

2716
02:28:19,360 --> 02:28:22,039
Speaker 25: times that World Cups have been boycotted.

2717
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:23,080
Speaker 4: Most of those.

2718
02:28:22,959 --> 02:28:25,800
Speaker 25: Protests can be traced back to the nineteen thirties. European

2719
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:29,080
Speaker 25: countries refused to travel to South America for the nineteen

2720
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:32,600
Speaker 25: thirty World Cup, hosted by Uruguay. Uruguay won that World

2721
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:36,039
Speaker 25: Cup and they declined to defend their crown in protests

2722
02:28:36,320 --> 02:28:40,880
Speaker 25: of those European countries, and that same year England, Scotland,

2723
02:28:40,920 --> 02:28:44,800
Speaker 25: Wales and Ireland were also absent, preferring to do a

2724
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:49,600
Speaker 25: home Nations sort of championship for the United Kingdom. Now

2725
02:28:49,879 --> 02:28:55,240
Speaker 25: nineteen thirty eight saw Uruguay protesting again. Argentina also decided

2726
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:58,280
Speaker 25: to boycott the nineteen thirty eight when it was once

2727
02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:01,680
Speaker 25: again hosted in Europe rather than South America. You must

2728
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 25: understand at the time the politics of whether you were

2729
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:07,600
Speaker 25: hosting Europe or South America made a lot more sense

2730
02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:10,000
Speaker 25: when a lot of these guys were traveling by ship

2731
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:14,440
Speaker 25: between South America and Europe, cross atlantic travel to go

2732
02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 25: play soccer tournaments.

2733
02:29:16,720 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 4: It was the home field advantage.

2734
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:22,720
Speaker 25: Of home field advantage, I think India also did not

2735
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:26,440
Speaker 25: choose to compete in there, and there's conflicting reports as

2736
02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 25: to why India did not decide to compete. Nineteen fifty,

2737
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:34,760
Speaker 25: Turkey rejected the opportunity to play in the World Cup

2738
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:38,280
Speaker 25: as finances really started to hit home there and once

2739
02:29:38,320 --> 02:29:41,000
Speaker 25: again they did not want to send a team all

2740
02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:44,280
Speaker 25: around the world to South America. You may have noticed

2741
02:29:44,320 --> 02:29:46,640
Speaker 25: that none, at no part did I ever bring up

2742
02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:49,959
Speaker 25: that any of these boycotts were about politics. That would

2743
02:29:50,040 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 25: finally happen when the USSR sat out from the World

2744
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 25: Cup in nineteen seventy four in protests of a CIA

2745
02:29:59,640 --> 02:30:03,560
Speaker 25: backed military coup that had overthrown the government of Chile.

2746
02:30:03,879 --> 02:30:06,640
Speaker 25: The USSR was actually had been scheduled to play in

2747
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:10,320
Speaker 25: a World Cup qualifier against Chile in November of nineteen

2748
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 25: seventy three, but because of the coup against the government

2749
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:17,840
Speaker 25: of Salvador Allende, they refuse to participate, thus not participating

2750
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:20,240
Speaker 25: in the World Cup the coming year. It is a

2751
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 25: thorny subject, and we must remember also that Germany, many

2752
02:30:24,280 --> 02:30:27,199
Speaker 25: of their players had issues with the human rights record

2753
02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:28,279
Speaker 25: of Qatar.

2754
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:31,160
Speaker 4: When the World Cup was held there their last time.

2755
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 25: We are indeed entering unprecedented times, and sometimes those sports

2756
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Speaker 25: happened to reflect those and indeed we will see how

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Speaker 25: far this goes. This is just one member of the

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02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:46,640
Speaker 25: Federation saying to consider boycott. But considering the attitude we

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02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:49,960
Speaker 25: have seen of the American government taking towards Europe, I

2760
02:30:49,959 --> 02:30:52,400
Speaker 25: would not be surprised that if those tensions do not

2761
02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:56,560
Speaker 25: cool anytime soon, that those protests might grow louder.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time on the world of soccer.

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Speaker 2: There's no boycotts. And I think of Boycott's the nineteen

2764
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:08,560
Speaker 2: eighty Olympics, Jimmy Carter boycott of the Olympics, the Summer

2765
02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 2: Olympics because the Russians that invaded in ga Afghanistan. I

2766
02:31:11,959 --> 02:31:13,880
Speaker 2: don't know what it accomplished. And then the Russians paid

2767
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:16,240
Speaker 2: us back in eighty four when the Olympics were in

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Speaker 2: La So hopefully we have full participation. By the way,

2769
02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:22,800
Speaker 2: have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet

2770
02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:25,160
Speaker 2: paper and wondered is this as good as it gets?

2771
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:30,359
Speaker 2: It's not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable dudewifes,

2772
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:33,880
Speaker 2: because what are just cleans better available at Amazon and

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02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:39,280
Speaker 2: at major retailers nationwide. Dudewifes best clean pants down. Come up,

2774
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Speaker 2: We wrap up the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it locked.

2775
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:46,040
Speaker 2: You are listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox.

2776
02:31:47,360 --> 02:31:48,880
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

2777
02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:56,640
Speaker 2: All right, wrap it up at the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2778
02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:01,879
Speaker 2: I'll thank my producers Mark and Brandon turning all the dials,

2779
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 2: keeping us glued together, hitting the brakes, keeping the plane

2780
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:08,840
Speaker 2: in the air so we could bring this radio show

2781
02:32:08,920 --> 02:32:15,040
Speaker 2: to a grateful nation. Always appreciate the efforts. Guys. We

2782
02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:18,720
Speaker 2: are what nine hours and fifteen minutes away now from

2783
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:24,080
Speaker 2: what should be a pretty exciting with multiple storylines AFC

2784
02:32:24,720 --> 02:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Championship and NFC Championship. You know, there's an old saying

2785
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:31,560
Speaker 2: the number one key to performing under pressure keep your

2786
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:35,960
Speaker 2: focus on the process instead of the outcome. And the

2787
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:39,640
Speaker 2: one player that most will have their eyes on is

2788
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham. You know a lot of times these games

2789
02:32:42,800 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 2: come down to specific matchups. Then there are key matchups.

2790
02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:50,080
Speaker 2: There are two key matchups in each game that I

2791
02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:53,800
Speaker 2: think are worth noting. Let's start with the Broncos quarterback

2792
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:58,440
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham versus how New England and the Patriots will

2793
02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 2: disguise their coverages. Stidham has not seen game action all season. Now.

2794
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:08,120
Speaker 2: The last time he started January first, twenty twenty three,

2795
02:33:08,760 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 2: was right here in Las Vegas while playing for the Raiders.

2796
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:13,360
Speaker 2: They lost to the forty nine Ers that day thirty

2797
02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:16,600
Speaker 2: seven thirty four. Steadham actually threw for three sixty five

2798
02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:20,440
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. He has arm talent. When the heat

2799
02:33:20,440 --> 02:33:22,160
Speaker 2: gets hot, it's hard to breed and the bullets are

2800
02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:25,400
Speaker 2: flying for real and it's winner go home. Dealing with

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02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:28,280
Speaker 2: exotic disguises in real time is going to be a

2802
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:32,680
Speaker 2: difficult transition. He hasn't seen game action all season, so

2803
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:36,640
Speaker 2: the Pats should have matchup advantages in their secondary. But

2804
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:40,400
Speaker 2: the biggest drop off from Bowdenix to Stidham is sack avoidance. Okay,

2805
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 2: Luckily for the Broncos, they have one of the league's

2806
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:48,400
Speaker 2: best offensive lines. That's something to watch. Now, how about

2807
02:33:48,480 --> 02:33:50,600
Speaker 2: on the other side of the coin, the Patriots their

2808
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:57,200
Speaker 2: left tackle Will Campbell versus Nick Benito, the Broncos edge rusher. Now,

2809
02:33:57,200 --> 02:33:59,640
Speaker 2: why do I bring that up? Because in just two

2810
02:33:59,640 --> 02:34:02,760
Speaker 2: players games, Drake May has been sacked ten times and

2811
02:34:02,840 --> 02:34:06,240
Speaker 2: fumbled six times. Campbell's given up three sacks, including two

2812
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:09,560
Speaker 2: strip sacks. He was beaten around the corner. New England

2813
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:13,600
Speaker 2: must protect Drake May and the ball, especially against Benito.

2814
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:16,720
Speaker 2: He's her sack leader. He's actually in a cornering forced

2815
02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:19,120
Speaker 2: two fumbles against the Bills. And oh, by the way,

2816
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:22,400
Speaker 2: the Texans kind of had their way with Will Campbell

2817
02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:29,840
Speaker 2: last week. Those matchups are significant. So how about the

2818
02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:35,080
Speaker 2: Rams and the Seahawks on you know, what's the match

2819
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:43,080
Speaker 2: up there to really watch? Well? Somewhat similar Sam Donald

2820
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:46,800
Speaker 2: versus the Rams and their disguises. The Rams did pick

2821
02:34:46,879 --> 02:34:49,440
Speaker 2: off Donald six times in their two regular season games,

2822
02:34:49,959 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 2: and their defensive coordinator Chris Shulo would undoubtedly have some

2823
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,760
Speaker 2: designer coverages to get Donald to throw the ball into

2824
02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:58,960
Speaker 2: coverage or to take a sack. So Sam Donald has

2825
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:02,320
Speaker 2: to be diligent. He's got to see their coverage rotations.

2826
02:35:02,520 --> 02:35:06,279
Speaker 2: He's got to make good decisions. I like Seattle someday,

2827
02:35:06,320 --> 02:35:10,400
Speaker 2: I do. I think it's their turn. Meanwhile, how about

2828
02:35:10,480 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford versus the Seahawks underneath defenders. Now, Stafford does

2829
02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:18,680
Speaker 2: a pretty good job of manipulating underneath defenders. He is

2830
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:21,000
Speaker 2: he no look passes. You have to coach your defenders

2831
02:35:21,040 --> 02:35:23,520
Speaker 2: to kind of resist their intuition and stay in place

2832
02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:26,760
Speaker 2: until the ball leaves his hands. So it's going to

2833
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:30,279
Speaker 2: be about being very assignment sound and keeping the Rams

2834
02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:35,680
Speaker 2: passing game into, you know, under in check as it were.

2835
02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:41,360
Speaker 2: Both Denver and Seattle I think have significant homefield advantages.

2836
02:35:41,879 --> 02:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Seattle's twelfth Man is legendary and that venue is so

2837
02:35:46,320 --> 02:35:50,480
Speaker 2: loud it'll make your teeth itch, and it's part of that.

2838
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:53,920
Speaker 2: The Rams, who are now playing their seventh road game

2839
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 2: in nine weeks, have managed to score thirty one points

2840
02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:01,280
Speaker 2: on the road twenty nine at home, so we'll see

2841
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:05,880
Speaker 2: if that continues. Meanwhile, it's pretty clear I think that

2842
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:09,600
Speaker 2: the Broncos have a significant home field advantage. They're the

2843
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:11,640
Speaker 2: league's best home team this season. They're nine to one

2844
02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:14,440
Speaker 2: a mile High, They're six to one on NFC championships.

2845
02:36:14,680 --> 02:36:17,760
Speaker 2: The Broncos all time are eighteen and five in home

2846
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:21,800
Speaker 2: playoff games. And you might say, well, that doesn't really

2847
02:36:21,959 --> 02:36:25,720
Speaker 2: comport because look, some of those teams were John Elway

2848
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:28,920
Speaker 2: teams and you're going back into the eighties. Well that's true,

2849
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:32,120
Speaker 2: except let me tell you what else is true. Every

2850
02:36:32,160 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 2: one of those games has played at two hundred and

2851
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:40,200
Speaker 2: eighty feet, so that matters. Now, one last thing. Historically,

2852
02:36:40,280 --> 02:36:44,119
Speaker 2: only five backup quarterbacks who started in the postseason only

2853
02:36:44,200 --> 02:36:47,080
Speaker 2: in the post due to injury. Gary Danielson for the

2854
02:36:47,160 --> 02:36:49,760
Speaker 2: Lions back in eighty three they almost beat the Niners.

2855
02:36:49,800 --> 02:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Ady Murray missed the field goal, Frank Reich for the

2856
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:56,640
Speaker 2: Bills in ninety three, Joe Webb of the Vikings in

2857
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:59,160
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, Connor Cook of the Raiders in twenty seventeen,

2858
02:36:59,240 --> 02:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Nick Foles in twenty eighteen. Of those, only three of

2859
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:06,320
Speaker 2: those games were started at home and the all one. Now,

2860
02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:10,960
Speaker 2: there's a long history of backup quarterbacks in the NFL playoffs.

2861
02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean a long history, and we don't want to

2862
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 2: go to all of it. Oh there's one. We're going

2863
02:37:15,400 --> 02:37:17,640
Speaker 2: to go deep into the cookie jar because, as I

2864
02:37:17,720 --> 02:37:21,199
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show, the seventy two Dolphins seventeen

2865
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:24,480
Speaker 2: to zero. Yeah, they're crotching. The old men like to

2866
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:26,400
Speaker 2: hang out on the sidelines and roof for other teams

2867
02:37:26,440 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 2: to lose. Well, back in seventy two, would people forget

2868
02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:31,520
Speaker 2: is after their Hall of Fame quarterback Bob Greasey was

2869
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:35,120
Speaker 2: injured in Week six, their backup quarterback Earl Morles started

2870
02:37:35,240 --> 02:37:38,800
Speaker 2: and won nine games, including the first playoff game, helping

2871
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 2: the Dolphins get to their only perfect season in NFL history.

2872
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 2: That's something, okay. Jeff Kostetler did it for the nineteen

2873
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:49,840
Speaker 2: ninety Giants as well. We stepped in for an injured

2874
02:37:49,840 --> 02:37:53,320
Speaker 2: Phil Simms. The Giants won a Super Bowl. Doug Williams.

2875
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:56,280
Speaker 2: He was basically a backup, and he was named Super

2876
02:37:56,280 --> 02:38:00,240
Speaker 2: Bowl MVP. Jim Plunkett in the nineteen eighty Raiders, they're

2877
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:02,920
Speaker 2: starting QB. He was injured. Plunket took over, the Raiders

2878
02:38:03,040 --> 02:38:05,040
Speaker 2: went all the way. They beat Philadelphia twenty seven to

2879
02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:08,720
Speaker 2: ten in the Super Bowl fifteen. I think it was

2880
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:14,440
Speaker 2: most recently Nick Foles twenty seventeen. He replaced and injured

2881
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:16,720
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz late in the season, led the Eagles to

2882
02:38:17,560 --> 02:38:20,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl victory. Got Super Bowl MVP. By the way,

2883
02:38:22,360 --> 02:38:25,160
Speaker 2: you've got Nick Foles is on a two year, eleven

2884
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:30,960
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Sound familiar. Jared Stidham has a two year,

2885
02:38:30,959 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 2: twelve million dollar contract. You imagine if he leads the

2886
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:36,240
Speaker 2: Broncos of the Super Bowl, what money he might command.

2887
02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I can tell you what Foles got. He went to Jacksonville.

2888
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Got a four year deal for eighty eight million. Not

2889
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:44,960
Speaker 2: bad to work if you can get it. But there's

2890
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:48,320
Speaker 2: been a host of others. Tyner Taylor, Heinike and Washington

2891
02:38:48,400 --> 02:38:51,240
Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty, he lost in the wildcard round.

2892
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:54,520
Speaker 2: On our Cook of the Raiders in twenty sixteen, lost

2893
02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:59,280
Speaker 2: in the wildcard round. Colin Kaepernick, he was a backup,

2894
02:38:59,320 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 2: but he came came in mid through the year when

2895
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Alex Smith got hurt. He actually won a divisional game,

2896
02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:06,840
Speaker 2: but lost in the Super Bowl. Joe Webbit the Minnesota Vikings.

2897
02:39:06,840 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 2: I remember that how athletic he was. He lost to

2898
02:39:08,840 --> 02:39:13,200
Speaker 2: the wildcard game. TJ yats Are the Houston Texans back

2899
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:16,480
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, won of the wildcard game, lost in

2900
02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:20,440
Speaker 2: the divisional game. Todd Collins in Washington lost in the

2901
02:39:20,480 --> 02:39:23,040
Speaker 2: wildcard game. How about Jeff guard Seed of the Eagles

2902
02:39:23,080 --> 02:39:26,240
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and six, He won a divisional game,

2903
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:31,080
Speaker 2: but then lost in the NFC Championship. And that's what

2904
02:39:32,080 --> 02:39:37,280
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham is hoping to capture here in about nine hours,

2905
02:39:37,320 --> 02:39:40,959
Speaker 2: a little over nine hours. Chris Simms the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

2906
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:42,800
Speaker 2: He was a backup came into two thousand and five,

2907
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:46,920
Speaker 2: lost in the wildcard game, and then John Kitton, who

2908
02:39:46,959 --> 02:39:50,560
Speaker 2: became a Lion's non legend, lost in the wildcard game

2909
02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:54,480
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals in two thousand and five. So the

2910
02:39:54,640 --> 02:39:57,240
Speaker 2: history of NFL backup quarterbacks in the playoffs, there are

2911
02:39:57,520 --> 02:40:01,760
Speaker 2: multiple instances of players having step in due to injury, right,

2912
02:40:02,720 --> 02:40:05,320
Speaker 2: and this is not a normal situation. So you got

2913
02:40:05,800 --> 02:40:08,720
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham not only stepping in due to injury, he's

2914
02:40:08,760 --> 02:40:11,760
Speaker 2: doing it. He got the note five days before the game.

2915
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:15,440
Speaker 2: So I feel Denver in the four and a half

2916
02:40:15,520 --> 02:40:18,160
Speaker 2: points is a solid play. I think they're going to

2917
02:40:18,200 --> 02:40:20,560
Speaker 2: give New England everything they can want. And I think

2918
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:22,160
Speaker 2: the Rams game is going to be a fist fight

2919
02:40:22,200 --> 02:40:24,080
Speaker 2: in a phone booth and Seattle's gonna win a close one.

2920
02:40:24,120 --> 02:40:26,600
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Goodde for the Bernie Frales Show.

2921
02:40:26,600 --> 02:40:28,240
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Keep it locked the Great

2922
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Speaker 2: Andy Furman Next