1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Locker Room Show presented by Saddan 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Ford in gil Home up at Tim hoping satisfaction guarantee. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Come man, Come. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: On, Let's get back to the stadium for analysis and 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: exclusive interviews from the Cardinals locker room. Here's Dave fash 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: A two Shipley and all Calvi's. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: Seattle wins it forty four to twenty two, leading thirty 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: five to nothing midway through the second quarter on the 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: strength of two fumble recoveries for touchdowns by DeMarcus Lawrence. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: The Cardinals got it down to thirty eight to fifteen 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: on a Trey McBride touchdown catch. Greg George had a 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: touchdown run for the first Cardinals score, but then Seattle 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 3: was able to march down the field get a field 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: goal from Myers to make it forty one to fifteen. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison had a touchdown to make it forty one 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: twenty one with about forty one twenty two after the 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: extra point with nine to fifty oh. The Cardinals could 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: not recover the on site kick, though, and that was 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: the ballgame. Seattle wins it. The Cardinals lost. We counted 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: seven different players to injury that did not return Now, 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: a couple of those were probably because it was the 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: end of the game. They weren't going to return anyway. 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: We hope that's it. But even if the injuries were 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: not severe, those couple players like Walter Nolan, they were 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: not coming back in at that stage. Hopefully those injuries 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: are not severe. The Cardinals already have enough injury issues 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: and they've got bigger problems and that's that. Nobody cares 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: about those injuries. They just care about your record. And 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are three and six aq nine games into 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: the season. How would you describe what this year has 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: been like now that we're at the midway point. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: Disappointing, I think is the big word that comes to mind. 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 4: I think whenever we were coming out of the first 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: half of the season, it was finished, Hey, why can't 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: we finish? And then all of a sudden you get 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: these disappointing wins. I mean, the disappoint loss is coming 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: off one of the biggest wins of the year. 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 5: It's just that's the biggest thing. It's just so much 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: up and down. 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the locker room and checking 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: with Paul Elijah Higgins. 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals tight end is alongside AQ just mentioned the up 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: and down in this game. How about the up and 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: down from the last game to this game. I mean, 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Cardinal's just coming off their best game of the year, 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: most complete game to win and then to have that 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: result just tell us. I don't know what comes to mind. First. 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 6: I mean, it's part of being a competitor. You know, 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 6: you go, you face especially at this level, you face 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: great teams every week, and sometimes things don't go your way. 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 6: And that's what happened today. We didn't play basketball the 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 6: next kut the way we needed to. And when you 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 6: do that against a good team, so that's what happens. 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 6: You dig yourself in a hole and it was a 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 6: little too deep that we weren't able to climb back 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 6: out of it. 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: Tell us about the two defensive touchdowns, how similar were 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: they in the way they unfolded. 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think it was the same player too. 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 6: It's tough, Like I said, just things in good didn't 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 6: go our away today. We didn't execute the way we 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 6: needed to and it's hard to hard to bounce back 63 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 6: from that, especially once early in the game, and it 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 6: gets so so behind it going into the second half. 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 6: But I mean, kudos to the guys that we fought 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 6: hard and we had a lot of belief going to 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 6: the second half. 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: So so weekend their hat on Seattle's defense. Mike McDonald 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: is known for those complex split schemes, right, I mean, 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: is it pretty normal to get something you know, unscouted 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: or or something pretty complex when you play this team, 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: this defense? 73 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 6: Yea, they definitely. They showed some stuff to us today 74 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 6: and obviously that's our job to respond and pick it up. 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 6: But obviously they got us a couple of plays in 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 6: those plays you know, hurt us hurt us bad. 77 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: The same time, how much do you attribute to just 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: being self inflicted just Cardinals beating Cardinals at times? 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you can't do that this this level obviously, 80 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 6: But we just had to turn the film on, learn 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 6: from it and corrected and going next week. That's all 82 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 6: you can do. 83 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Would you think energy just coming off the short week, 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: the three am arrival, No, We're ready to go. 85 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 6: Man. We had a lot of confidence come into the game. 86 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 6: I had a lot of confidence a halftime, I think 87 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: because the team as well. But I just can't put 88 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 6: it together. 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: What's your confidence when you catch the ball these days? 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: Not just making the catch but breaking tackles. I mean, 91 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: you are a problem with yards after catch for defenses. 92 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I just just get Coach Gettin says, a 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 6: star your role, and I just just try to do 94 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 6: the best that I can get limited opportunity. So every 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 6: opportunity I get is frev gray before and I just 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 6: try to make the most out of it. 97 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: What's it like or how deflating can it be when 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: you have so many injuries, not only this season, but 99 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: this came. I mean every other every third place, somebody's 100 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: going down. 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 6: It's an unfortunate part of playing football. That's what we 102 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 6: signed up for. We know that nothing's promised and obviously 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 6: unfortunate with this this year, we had a lot of injuries. 104 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 6: Like I said, that's just the way the game goes. 105 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 6: And that's why you have you know, you carry sixteen guys, 106 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: and you carry backups, and you carry twos and threes 107 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 6: for that very reason. There's reasons there's not twenty two 108 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 6: guys on the on a team, there's reason there's fifty three. 109 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 6: So it's just next man of mentality, and I mean 110 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: we got the guys that have the mentality to do that. 111 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm not too worried about it. Last question. 112 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: We all know about Trey McBride. We can see the 113 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: box score. What do you see on a daily basis 114 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: hut of Trey McBride. I mean, there are times he 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: comes to the sideline, he is exhausted, He leaves it 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: all out there, doesn't he just consistency. 117 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 6: I mean he's he's a phenomenal player, a great teammate. 118 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 6: I think he does a great job. I'm always on 119 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: the sideline waiting from the typees helmet, but he doesn't 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 6: do it too often. I think that touchdown there, he 121 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 6: was gashed. You could see the way he caught the 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 6: ball and tried to get into the end zone. I mean, 123 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 6: he's a he's a fighter and I tried a monible 124 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 6: game of my game after that, and just the mentality 125 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: as well. 126 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: But it's hard. It's hard hard to do for sure. 127 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: He's he's a different cat. You guys are a hard combo. 128 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: So appreciate the time. Thank you as you brother, Thank 129 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: you so much. Trey McBride, by the way, nine for one, 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: seven and a touchdown. 131 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey McBride. Again, it's unfortunate that this season has 132 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: not gone the way that we hoped, because you could 133 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: make the case he's had a better year this year 134 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: because the touchdowns are up compared to a year ago. 135 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: He's been fantastic and Jacoby, he's done a great job 136 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: of finding him obviously down the field. Early in the season, 137 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: I was wondering if we were going to see him 138 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 4: make some of those chunk explosive plays because everything seemed 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: to be running short stick route, short drags, all this 140 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: short stuff. We have really opened him up in recent 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: weeks and today he was fantastic over one hundred yards. 142 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: He just plays at a different level. You can see 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: the intensity, you can see the way that he finishes plays. 144 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: When he has the ball in his hands, there's nothing 145 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: stopping him from getting a first down or trying to 146 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: get in the end zone. 147 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: How would you evaluate Jacoby Brissett's performance. Obviously, with Kyler 148 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: murray on injured reserve, breseets the quarterback for at least 149 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: the next several weeks, and he did not have an interception. 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: He did have two takeaways, but it's really hard to 151 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: put either on him because that was the offensive line 152 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: that gave up a couple pressures resulted in forced fumbles 153 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: and touchdowns. 154 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: I was confused. I mean, honestly, I mean, obviously with him, 155 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 4: I'll answer that question first. So I thought like he 156 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: was fine. Let's just say that. I think he was fine, 157 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: but I don't think he had a chance. I guess 158 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: is where I was gonna go with that. And I'm 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: also confused on the early game plan. It was constantly 160 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: blocking back, pulling a guard, putting the offensive linemen on edges, 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: and then as you move forward in the game, they 162 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: really couldn't block these guys long enough. So I'm not 163 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: sure why there wasn't more mix up of draws, screens, quick, 164 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: perimeter plays, right, just get the ball out of your 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: hands quick. Everything seemed to be trying to go chunk 166 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: play action down the field, seven step, hitch, hitch, and 167 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: by that time you got four people in your face. 168 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: And I just don't think they gave Jacoby a fair 169 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: chance today. I mean, I don't think he had much 170 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: of an opportunity to be who he could be. 171 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: All right. 172 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: The Cardinals locker room shows presented by Tim Hovic, santan Ford, 173 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: and Gilbert Right on the Price Right on the corner 174 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: of the Santan two to two Freeway and Valvista Jonathan 175 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: will be coming up. You'll hear the coach's thoughts after 176 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 3: today's forty four to twenty two loss to the Seattle 177 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: Seahawks to send the Cardinals to three and six on 178 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: the season. The Cardinals never got their run game going 179 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: either team. Mercato at a fifty five yard run, but 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: that was at the end of the game, So you 181 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: take that away, and the Cardinals had about seventy five 182 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: rushing yards. They basically got, you know, almost half of 183 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: their rushing total on that one on that one run. Again, 184 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: how much of that is back to the offensive line? 185 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: How much of that is on that we're down to 186 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: third fourth string running backs because of the injuries. 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of it's to do with 188 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: the offensive line. But again I think a lot of that. 189 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: Let's not forget that. We need to give the other 190 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: guys credit to I think the d line in Seattle's 191 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 4: really good, and I think they're stout and they were 192 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: missing obviously one of their best players in Jaron Reid too. 193 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: He's been put on ir today. But they got depth, 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: they got sized, they got quickness, they got speed. They've 195 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: done a really nice job building the depth on that 196 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: side of the football. Their defense is incredible, too deep 197 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: across the board. It starts with their D line. But 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 4: I think when you look at the running game period, everything, again, 199 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: I think they were at a disadvantage. I think, obviously 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: these guys are good, but I don't think there was 201 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: anything earth shattering creativity to plan against what they had 202 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 4: on the other side. I don't think whenever you look 203 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: at the guys across and they're trying to get to 204 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: the perimeter and all these penetration early in the game, 205 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: it's like, I don't understand why we didn't start going 206 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: more quick hitters. The only converted short yardage and goal 207 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: line plays in the run game that we had were downhill. 208 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: Every time we tried to get to the perimeter, they 209 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: were blowing it up. They were penetrating, getting in the 210 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: backfield and getting four yard losses. And I think part 211 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 4: of that's due to putting us on edges up front 212 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: the entire game, with pulling a guard constantly, always trying 213 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: to pull a guard, and then when you do that 214 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: against these upfield penetrators, it's really tough. 215 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: And Seattle has so much speed at every level, and 216 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: you're right about the depth they've done a fantastic job 217 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: of drafting at every level of their defense, They've got depth, 218 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: and so their special teams are really good because you 219 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: get really good players that are your second teamers on defense. 220 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: And again to have Julian Love out job out Witherspoon. 221 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if he got hurt or if they 222 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 3: just took him out because he wasn't out there a 223 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: lot on the second half. But Pritchett played well. They've 224 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: got a really good secondary, at least they've played really 225 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: well today. You know, we mentioned Pritchett was out there 226 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: defending Marvin Harrison. He had just three catches and I 227 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: did have a touchdown. There were a couple drops though. 228 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: In this game for Harrison does not feel like, you know, 229 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: a step forward to back. I think it's been three 230 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: steps forward, maybe a half step back. But some of 231 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: the issues that we saw earlier in the year did 232 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: pop up again today. 233 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Agree they showed back up. 234 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. 235 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: And I think whenever you saw what he did last week, 236 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: I thought we were past that. I thought we were 237 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: back to confidence, I thought, but today he just never 238 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: looked comfortable. He dropped I think the first ball that 239 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: was thrown his way. He did make some catches I 240 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: think early, but I think most of the day it 241 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: looked like he was fighting it again. He just looked 242 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: uncomfortable from the get go catching the ball with his body. 243 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: Even the two point conversion. 244 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 4: Really, if they would have went to replay, that was 245 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: a very questionable call because he puts it on his body, 246 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: it's moving a little. 247 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: Bit and he goes out of bounds. 248 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Yep. 249 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: But he just was not comfortable playing with his hands today. 250 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: And I don't know if that was because of the 251 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: guys across from him, or if that was for whatever reason, right, 252 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just, you know, I do think this 253 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 4: place has a different feel about it. I mentioned that 254 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: when we walked out their pregame. There's a different feel here, 255 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: there's a different energy. It's a tough place to play. 256 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: And even if you subconsciously come in just to tat 257 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 4: intimidate it, which you shouldn't. 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: It's the NFL. You should have the utmost confidence. 259 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: But there might be something there subconsciously, subliminally, whatever. 260 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: It may be, where he just didn't look great to 261 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: up next to four nine ers. Mac Jones had three 262 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: touchdowns today. Obviously, we didn't watch the game, so don't 263 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: know you know how well he played. They were down 264 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: twenty one nothing at one point. Maybe Brock perties back, 265 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: but the Niners are in desperation mode. And the offensive 266 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: line for the Cardinals, it's been an issue all year, 267 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: and last year it was not an issue, but with 268 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: some of the guys they have on that front for 269 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: San Francisco now they do have injuries up there too. 270 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: The Cardinals are not going to have it easy next 271 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: week either. So to your point on game plan, is 272 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: it a similar plan against San Francisco or do you 273 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: think we see it's spread out more in terms of 274 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: using more receivers and less of that six offensive lineman package. 275 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: We didn't see as much of the six offensive line 276 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: package though today as we did against Dallas. Seems like 277 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: they did go away from that. But do you think 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: we'll see less of the pulling guards and we'll just 279 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: see straight up pass protection and run plays. 280 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: I hope so, I really do it, because I think 281 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: when you look at this team, the bread and butter 282 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: and what they've been built on is those pulling plays. 283 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: But it has not worked this year. It has not, 284 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: even though it has in the previous two it hasn't 285 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: been great this year, and so you continuously try to 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: do it. Whether it's personnel, whether it's different scheme, whether 287 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: it's people scheming up against you and now combating that. 288 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: It's probably a multitude of all three. But you are 289 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 4: much more sound when your pocket is fluid when it's 290 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: just five guys setting up a dish, as opposed to 291 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: blocking everybody down and then having somebody pick up the slack, 292 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: pulling a guard front side or vice versa. In the 293 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 4: run game, if you're just running a zone, now you 294 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: can get hip to hip and everybody's running in the 295 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: same direction, versus pulling a backside guard. Now everybody has 296 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: to cover down and going back right. And so when 297 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: I say that, it's just more fluid when you can 298 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: stay cohesive with the guy next to you, as opposed 299 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: to picking up the slack when somebody pulls again. 300 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: The final score here forty four to twenty two. The 301 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: Niners lose forty two to twenty six. Mac Jones had 302 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: six incompletions today. One was a pick three touchdowns again, 303 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: don't know if it'll be him or if it'll be 304 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: brock Perdy next week. They got down twenty one nothing 305 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: came back to make it twenty eight to twenty in 306 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, but you know, the Rams offense is 307 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: really good, putting up forty two points. Stafford had four touchdowns, 308 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: Kyraen Williams had two touchdowns on the ground, and the 309 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: Rams are now seven and two along with Seattle. San 310 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: Francisco is six and four. The Cardinals are three and 311 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: six and injuries again a problem for the Cardinals. Hopefully 312 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: jag will have an update for us. If not, we'll 313 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: we'll get it during the week. In terms of the 314 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: defensive game plan for today, you talked about the offensive 315 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: game plan. What did you think about the plan defensively 316 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: against Seattle's offense today. 317 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: I think they're a very hard offense two game plan 318 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: against because they have so much talent, and I think 319 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: because they scheme you up so well. I think they 320 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: do probably only about five or six plays in the 321 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: play action game in the run game, but it all 322 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: looks similar, and they do it out of different formations, 323 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: different shifts, different motions, and so it's tough to get 324 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: a beat on it. You can't get any tendencies on it, 325 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: and so when you watch it on film, it's like, oh, 326 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: they got to it that way. Oh they got to 327 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: it that way. Oh they got they did? They get 328 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: to it five hundred different ways, and I think it's 329 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: just tough when you go against that type offense. 330 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Paul standing by with coach. 331 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: All Right, Jonathan Gannon is our guest here postgame in Seattle. Coach, 332 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything that's resonating the most 333 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: or somewhere you want to start, But how about that 334 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: Seattle defense that we start there, especially in that first half? 335 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: What was most problematic? 336 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean we didn't stay ahead of the 337 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 7: sticks on on mixed downs, and in known pass they 338 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: whooped us pretty good, you know, and then they take 339 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 7: away the ball and score twice, and you're in a 340 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 7: big time hole. Versus a good team, You're you're not 341 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 7: going to win a game. 342 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I know they're known for some complex blitz schemes. The 343 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: two defensive touchdowns were He's similar and how they unfolded. 344 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 7: Uh well, the one was on second and pass and 345 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 7: I think they ended up bringing six and then I 346 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: think on the third down, I thought that was just 347 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 7: four man rush. I honestly do just two sack fumbles unfortunate. 348 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: Did you consider an inorder amount of free hitters in 349 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: that first half from you know that that front by 350 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: by Seattle getting into the backfield. 351 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: No, I just felt like a nome pass of pocket 352 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 7: was collapsing pretty good. So we got to make sure 353 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: that we can protect a little bit better and get 354 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 7: it out of his hand. 355 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: A little bit. But I think it ultimately stems. 356 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 7: That was kind of one of the winning edges was 357 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 7: we can't play in third and long all day, you know, 358 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: and or non pass all day on second down and 359 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 7: just you know, first down, we weren't as productive as 360 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 7: we needed to be. 361 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: And as soon as Seattle took a big lead, then 362 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they'd just pin their ears back 363 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: right correct. Yeah, in the red zone, Cardinals got down 364 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: to the one, Cardinals got down to the Seattle too, 365 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: got down to the Seattle eight and didn't have many points. 366 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: Was there anything you can diagnose? Was there a common 367 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: thread there? 368 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: Oh? 369 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we were down in there a 370 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 7: couple of times, and again, like where the score was, 371 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 7: you got you gotta feel like you got to go 372 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 7: for those. If the score wasn't out of balance, you 373 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 7: could kick a couple of those, I'm sure, and put 374 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 7: up points on the board, but where we were, I 375 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 7: just felt like that was the best thing to do 376 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 7: and give them credit. 377 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 5: They came up with some stops. You know. 378 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: We talked to Elijah Higgins a little bit ago and 379 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: he said, yeah, they brought some unscouted stuff that's sort 380 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: of they're known for that, a little bit on that 381 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Seattle defense right downing up some pretty complex blit schemes. 382 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they did. Like I said, they did a 383 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: good job. They kind of out they out coached us 384 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 7: and out played us today. 385 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: What do you think of energy, intensity, physicality, just coming 386 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: off the short week and the three am arrival from 387 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: down town. 388 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: And that's everybody has to do it. 389 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 7: So it's not an excuse, you know, where I look 390 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: at first as myself, you know, and I obviously didn't 391 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 7: have We didn't have good enough plans going into this 392 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 7: game and didn't execute them well enough. 393 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: And you know it falls on me. 394 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 7: You know, we gotta be we gotta we gotta better 395 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 7: than that, coming out of a winning Dallas on a 396 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 7: short week. We got to play better than that, especially 397 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 7: against a good team, because if you don't play well 398 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 7: in three phases, you're gonna get. 399 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: Whooped defensively for the Cardinals. Would you think there Cody Simon, 400 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: you know, had the green dot. 401 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 5: Just what some of your operationally we're fined. 402 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 7: But too many explosives, you know, I mean, you know 403 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 7: the early one name Jigbud. You know that was a 404 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: good throw and catch. I thought Garrett was in good position, 405 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 7: but really didn't get a chance to play the game 406 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 7: on our terms because I'm first and second down there 407 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 7: ahead of the sticks all day. You know, a bunch 408 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 7: of third and one conversions, you're not even it's not 409 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 7: even passed, you know, and third down. 410 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 5: So didn't do enough really all three phases. 411 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: When the injuries pile up like that. How many adjustments 412 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: are you making in real time over the course of 413 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: the game. 414 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 7: There's a lot, but everybody has to deal with it, 415 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: and you just got to be able to, you know, 416 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: plug different guys into different roles and keep going. 417 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: With this game. Film Do you watch it? Do you 418 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: drill down or we're gonna watch it. We're gonna learn 419 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: from it why that happened, and don't let it happen again. 420 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: Any other particular message you want these guys. 421 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 7: Now to leave now they'll come back to work tomorrow. 422 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 7: You know, I was the not a lot of good 423 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 7: came out of that game. The one thing that was 424 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 7: good that I appreciate, and I told them, is when 425 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 7: you're down like that at half, you can you can quit. 426 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 7: And they knew they had thirty minutes of ball, and 427 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 7: I did not think we quit. I thought we kept 428 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: playing hard, tried to get back in the game, but 429 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 7: just too much of a hole there. 430 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: Marvin Irrison Junior at three catches had the touchdown, but 431 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: at twelve targets. What was making it tough for him 432 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: to get the efficiency? 433 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 7: Well, you know, they're Russian good, so the ball is 434 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 7: coming out of his hand maybe a little bit too quick, 435 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 7: and I thought they had good coverage. 436 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: All right, coach, thank you, Thanks you guys, travel safing. 437 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: There you go, Jonathan Gannon. 438 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: And the final score again forty four to twenty two. 439 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: The Cardinals fall to three and six oh and three 440 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: in the NFC West, and they will host another divisional 441 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: opponent on Sunday when they welcome the San Francisco forty 442 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: nine ers to town. 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