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Speaker 1: You were Defensive Player of the Year. Should he win

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year this year?

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Speaker 2: Blocks is great? I want to know if I want

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Speaker 2: to know how you're affecting like winning.

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Speaker 1: The ogs are in the building and we got ourselves

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Speaker 1: a doozy today, Serve.

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Speaker 2: I mean what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It is a Gator.

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Speaker 2: Legend, NBA legend. Yes, yes, hold on, let me keep going.

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, right, Yes, two time n

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Speaker 1: cuble a champion.

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Speaker 2: You're good at this, two time All Star, two times.

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Speaker 1: Gosh damn, I ain't got none of that ship at

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Speaker 1: number at Florida and fucking war better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually won a championship at Florida. We just

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Speaker 4: got there, which still keeps me up at night that

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Speaker 4: we didn't win. Your selfish ass left and didn't give

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Speaker 4: us another chance. That's that's I don't think I forgot.

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Speaker 3: Hold On, hold on, we're gonna jump right.

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Speaker 4: All those conversations about oh man, we got close, let's

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Speaker 4: running back. You ain't even stick around for that. That

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Speaker 4: motherfucker left by the time the clock hit all zeros

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Speaker 4: that motherfucker had done signed this contractor was on the plane,

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Speaker 4: had no intentions on coming back. It was never even

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Speaker 4: a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I had a conversation with you. Some money he did,

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Speaker 3: did you?

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Speaker 2: Of course? My dog problems. I believe that.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate Joe. We appreciate you it mane way.

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Speaker 1: Because for us, we talk about Florida basketball a lot,

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Speaker 1: because it's what you know, a lot of pride, a

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Speaker 1: lot of pride in Florida basketball, and so for us

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Speaker 1: to go where we did and then you guys take

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Speaker 1: it that next level untill we had a lot of

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Speaker 1: pride in that and you.

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Speaker 4: Were a massive part of it. And so we appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Coming some money out here in these streets too. Maybe

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Speaker 4: some money out here in the street right, good time.

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Speaker 4: You know me, I'm always been on the Gators. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I ain't got no bookie and no ship like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just old school bet man. I bet on, I'm

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Speaker 4: betting on the Gators. What you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Deep?

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Speaker 4: No bookie. I ain't got no bookie now, but I

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Speaker 4: ain't that's sophisticated. When it come to gamble, I just

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Speaker 4: go to a motherfucker texta motherfuck call.

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Speaker 2: You want to bet?

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Speaker 4: They just playing?

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Speaker 2: That's deep. A lot of people won't understand what's going on.

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Speaker 4: But that's a lot going on and what he's saying, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they ain't got to understand. Like at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, man, Florida never really got the respect that

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Speaker 4: I felt like it deserves in basketball. We understand the

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Speaker 4: football history, but it never got the respect I felt

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Speaker 4: like it deserves until Billy got there and then we

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Speaker 4: did a little something. We didn't get it done, but

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Speaker 4: we did a little something, and then y'all got it done,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that represented all of

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Speaker 4: us in a way that you probably never know, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So we appreciate you enough of

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Speaker 4: us talking. Yeah, we can talk about that. How did

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Speaker 4: you end up at Florida?

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Speaker 2: Great question because you came from New York, That's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for me it was it was Billy Donovan,

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Speaker 2: you know. But first of all, I want to give

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Speaker 2: you guys your flowers because you know, my first the

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Speaker 2: first moment I got to campus, MP was my ogul

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Speaker 2: man major and the first thing he did was take

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Speaker 2: the VCR into the room and he showed me, y'all

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Speaker 2: y'all games and if you guys, you guys were OG's

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Speaker 2: before you guys were my ogs before you guys even

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Speaker 2: making sure that I understderstood what it looked like to

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Speaker 2: playing those games, like I'll never forget. You know, we

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Speaker 2: were pressing. You know, that doesn't exist anymore. You don't

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Speaker 2: see the five men on the front of the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's why I fucked with coach Donovan. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to be at the top of that press

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Speaker 2: that that doesn't even exist in basketball anymore. You don't

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Speaker 2: your press. We're trying to get a deflection. You get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like but you was ahead of the game

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Speaker 4: was capable of doing what you was capable of doing

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Speaker 2: Don Harvey, I saw it. I saw the whole thing

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Speaker 2: I saw it. Yeah. So that was the energy when

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Speaker 2: I came into Florida. That was the energy that I saw.

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Speaker 2: I was raised in it. It meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 2: So when we won that the chip, it was like,

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Speaker 2: you guys were a part of that, like for real,

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Speaker 2: Like watching those games, I knew what it took. Playing

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Speaker 2: you're fucking out. Yeah, it's deep. So those games MP everything.

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Speaker 2: He went through the TUPAC listening to TUPAC and before

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Speaker 2: the games the music. I remember you coming in, I

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Speaker 2: remember your fight music. I remember when before the draft,

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Speaker 2: I remember coming to Miami for the first time, you

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Speaker 2: taking me, taking me out. You know, we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: get in all the details, but you you you you

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Speaker 2: you for real, You and Mikey were like, you guys

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Speaker 2: were really my ogs. Even though we went through all

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Speaker 2: the wars and the NBA and all this, and people

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Speaker 2: they're not missing this ship, they're not missing this They

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Speaker 2: took the plane just to come here because of what

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Speaker 2: those times represented for us. So anyway, so I don't

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Speaker 4: But here, but for real, we appreciate that I appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 4: But the.

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Speaker 1: Thing is what I what I think, and I thought

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Speaker 1: But we had coach Donovan on here and he talked

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Speaker 1: about how you guys obviously to win back to back championships,

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Speaker 1: you all got to come back, right, And so he

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Speaker 2: Who was touring drafted wasn't to get drafted.

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Speaker 1: And looking back at that draft class, you probably you

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Speaker 2: You probably would have went one if you'd have.

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Speaker 3: Left, like dog, That's that's some real ship.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Because he was goofing round about it.

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Speaker 3: Come back and win that because you don't know if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna win it again.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: So like talk about that and if that story is true, I.

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Speaker 4: Think for me personally, is talking New York. He might

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Speaker 4: have said us a game, you know, really fast talking

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Speaker 4: stock market motherfucker. That's the ship that got me too.

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Speaker 4: What you say, I'm sign the fast talking that got us.

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Speaker 4: He got us guy.

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Speaker 2: He got you.

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Speaker 4: Guys, he got you. Remember, and I'll tell this story.

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Speaker 4: I'll let him talk. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, for me, it was it was more Bruskie to

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Speaker 2: be honest Corey. Because when I went to go see

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know what, he's the he

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Speaker 2: wants to come back. He was supposed to be a

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Speaker 2: You know, I could do things you know that I

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Speaker 2: You know. Even the way coach was was talking like letting,

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Speaker 2: letting the bigs bring the ball up in court. You

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Speaker 4: That ship was. I used to love that that was.

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Speaker 2: You know. I was like, yeah, we're playing a style

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Speaker 2: I was never the type to take winning for granted,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So when we had an

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Speaker 2: he knew. He didn't wait, he didn't wait too long.

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Speaker 1: So because this this gotta be for me personally, gotta

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Speaker 1: hear this cool, two to three days, y'all make the decision.

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Speaker 1: Was there any in the back of your mind as

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Speaker 1: is there is there any second guessing throughout product?

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Speaker 3: Because obviously it wasn't no second guessing for you.

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Speaker 2: We know that.

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Speaker 4: No what those second guests for you, mother fucker. But

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that's really you like that, I like, I

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Speaker 4: finish this ship together when June comes.

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Speaker 1: When June comes and you're seeing these names get called

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Speaker 1: because listen, man, you went to Florida.

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Speaker 2: Everyone talks about it. You go to school, all of us.

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Speaker 3: You go to school.

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Speaker 1: Your ultimate goal is what the NBA right, So you

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Speaker 1: guys have that opportunity in front of you again. You're

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be like, oh I want I from

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Speaker 1: getting drafted. You're a top five pick. So as June

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Speaker 1: comes and you're like, damn dog, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: I think there were times that next year where I

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Speaker 2: was started second guessing. But you know, this is the

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Speaker 2: you know, So I think there were times where I

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Speaker 2: on just dealing with expectations. You know, it was learn

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Speaker 2: Like you know, you win by ten, you get ten

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Speaker 2: and eight rebounds, That's that's not enough anymore, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's like the first run was

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Speaker 2: now everybody thinks nothing, nothing's good enough, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. But and I was kind of like the

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Speaker 2: scapego for that, you know, big ponytail, you know, talking ship.

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Speaker 2: It was easy to just yeah, you know, be like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna we're gonna fuck with this guy

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Speaker 2: right here. Yeah, but welcome.

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Speaker 4: He never shot away from that ship.

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Speaker 2: I love that ship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you never shot away from that ship.

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Speaker 2: Man, whatever gets you going. You know you're talking about you.

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Speaker 2: Before we just started, you were talking about the competition piece,

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Speaker 2: and competition is a motherfucker man. You got to get

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Speaker 2: in that in a different headspace. You know. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: different for for Mike. Michael was out there shooting threes

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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy because you can talk about it now.

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Speaker 2: You train your whole year thinking about these moments and

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Speaker 2: And we keep saying, but competition is a motherfucker man,

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Speaker 2: That's the way my father raised me. That's the way

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, listen, why should I be fucking miserable as

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Speaker 4: And it seems like you had that same mentality growing

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Speaker 1: Remove the winning and losing from those Heat Chicago series.

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Speaker 2: in a certain state to complay when when the Miami

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00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 2: Heat came to town or when you were playing the

434
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: Miami Heat. You know, you know, I think of that

435
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: that's screen that booze, that screen that he did on Lebron,

436
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Lebron tried to run through him. You know, I think

437
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 2: of Kirk Heinrich like being the last man back and

438
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: seeing like d Wade and Lebron coming full speed at

439
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: six two, one hundred and eighty five pounds, and he

440
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: was just he was getting like he had to foul him.

441
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Our game plan was put these motherfuckers at the free

442
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: throw line. We're putting we're putting two on the ball.

443
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 2: But if he's coming at you full speed, wrap him up.

444
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: So that was that was that was the game plan.

445
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: But man with Kirk had to endure every single time

446
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 2: he did that, I could like he would just go

447
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: running into the stands like it was crazy. But that

448
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: was real competitive, Like I'm just I'm talking about this

449
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: shit getting goosebumps, you know what I'm saying you guys again,

450
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: like it's it's real man, Like.

451
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: Kurt was a motherfucker. Though Kurt was a tough motherfucker.

452
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 4: He was tough.

453
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: I think about I think about, you know, losing. I mean,

454
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: we win game one by fucking damn near thirty points

455
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference Finals and Keith Bogan goes, We're

456
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: gonna sweep those motherfuckers, and I was like, oh shit,

457
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: that was that was not a good move, Keith. That

458
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: was not good. And I remember the adjustment that you

459
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: guys made was because we was fucking you guys up

460
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: on the glass and the adjustment was put you. Donna's

461
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: Haslin came in in game two. You hadn't played in

462
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: like fucking four months, and it changed the series. It

463
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: changed the series.

464
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was out. I was out with certain That's

465
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 4: when I told my Liz Frank. I came back one

466
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: game before before them. I played the final game of

467
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 4: the Boston series right before them coming into that series

468
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: once again, like we talked about Rudy Gobert, know if

469
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: that was gonna be my series, that was a Shane

470
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: Battier series. That was a series where Shane was going

471
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: to be the guy. I just had to stay ready.

472
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 4: And they fucking kicked our ass on the glass like

473
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: it was like it was some medieval ship.

474
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 2: He fucking tore out, Yo.

475
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: It was crazy, Like it was like, so now I'm

476
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: just over here just shopping at my sword because I

477
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: know at some point, like when this should get med evil,

478
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 4: you gotta call me sh get me evil, you gotta

479
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 4: call me Jack. You know what I'm saying. And once

480
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: again you talked about how guys lined up. I was

481
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 4: on so much drugs. I had just had that foot surgery.

482
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: I had a shot it. I had a shot. Take

483
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: the pills.

484
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: You should.

485
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: It's a laughing it's it's it's like the joke was

486
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: when it came to playoff time in Miami, there have

487
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: been five dudes lined up getting ready to take.

488
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: Like tour it off man.

489
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Listen, our whole, our whole, about seven of us lined up,

490
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: go get it.

491
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 2: It was it was.

492
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 4: I want to hear about about that team, though. I

493
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: want to talk about the young d Rose, who, once

494
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: again we big up all the time on this show

495
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: because we don't feel.

496
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: Like he get his flowers. No he don't.

497
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: Obviously he had his injury and I think that might

498
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: have slowed things down. But I don't think these young

499
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: motherfuckers understand what that was and what what that was

500
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: working with you know what I'm saying. So just talk

501
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: about that team and playing for TIBs. Who fucking TIBs

502
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: is a fucking talk about screws loose man. That motherfucker

503
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: is a monster.

504
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: I was. I was.

505
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: I literally ran down the court one time and I

506
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: was standing in front of TIBs and he was yelling

507
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 4: so much at y'all. He annoyed me. He was yelling

508
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: at y'all. And he annoyed me. I look at him

509
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: and say, God, damn tips, stop all that fucking yelling.

510
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: He was yelling so much at y'all that he annoyed me.

511
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sick.

512
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

513
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: You gotta love that. You gotta love it, like when

514
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: you know your coaches is just as sick or sicker

515
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: than you. It helps, Yeah, it helps, you gotta you

516
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: gotta feel that. Pool was just somebody that when he

517
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: came in, he brought hope to the whole not just

518
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: to the team, to the whole city. You know that

519
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: hope is a is a powerful emotion when you when

520
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: you believe and you you have hope to win, it's

521
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: a different workout, it's a different lift, you know. Yeah,

522
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: when you're when you're losing big and you're not making

523
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: you're not going to play in the playoffs. You're professional,

524
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: you gotta you work out your professional. But this is

525
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: this is deeper than that. This is hope to win

526
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: a championship. That's what he represented for and it became

527
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: something that was like bigger than him, you know, so

528
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: young youngest MVP. So I was I was living all

529
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: that with him, and I think that, you know, just

530
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: the way people turn on him and all this because

531
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: of the expectations, all this ship. You sign a big

532
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: deal with with Adidas, you know, you sign the Max deal,

533
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: de Rose rights, all this. Anyway, it was just a

534
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: lot going on, and he couldn't do what he couldn't

535
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: do what he wanted when he got hurt. But before

536
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: and I respect I respect him to this day. I

537
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: consider him like one of my closest brothers because what

538
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: he went through, the humility that he the way he

539
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: carried himself when he was at the top of his thing,

540
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, represent what he represents, being a kid from

541
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: the South Side from Chicago, Like every time, we wanted

542
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: to make him proud, and we wanted him to represent

543
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: all those things. So when I stepped on the court,

544
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: it was just as much for him than it was

545
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: for myself.

546
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 4: And I think that's what a lot of people don't get,

547
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: the true brotherhood, you know what I'm saying. I think

548
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: when you have and I say this all the time,

549
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: when you're playing with a teammate, it's different when you

550
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: feel like you playing with your brother.

551
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

552
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: When you're playing with a teammate, just playing a game.

553
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 4: That's my teammate. I'm gonna play the right way. When

554
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: you're playing with your fucking brother, You're a line in

555
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: the fucking saying that's right, you know what I'm saying.

556
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do to make

557
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 4: sure I don't let my brother down.

558
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: That's right.

559
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: And that's a different fucking mindset. Once again, we go

560
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: back to the mindset of everything and all that shit.

561
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: I have a question, because I understand your history and

562
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: your father was an African tennis player. Did you ever

563
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: play tennis? Did you ever dabble with that or anything

564
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: else besides basketball?

565
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: I didn't tennis. You know, it was just the expectations

566
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: right away.

567
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 4: That shits so hard.

568
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: That shit is a motherfucker. That's hard.

569
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: Boy, you played tennis.

570
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: No, it's a tough one. But it was just like more,

571
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: I'll be hitting somewhere with my dad and then all

572
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like, yeah, eighty people watching, and

573
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: oh yo, yeah, your son's gonna be It's like, yo,

574
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: let me, let me. I think a lot of my

575
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 2: hunger came off of just being in somebody else's shadow.

576
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: You know, my pops is probably the most famous person

577
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: in France at the time, and I'm like, yo, I'm me, Like,

578
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm my own I'm my own person. I'm not just

579
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Yanick Son like you got me fucked up. I think

580
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: that's like that was that was my energy like that,

581
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: you know, Like I mean, look and I see a

582
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of young people come in. Your

583
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: pops had a name. No no no, no, no no no,

584
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with you, Like this is nothing.

585
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: This is nothing to do with Pops. This is your ship.

586
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 2: Go get it, you know, and and you're not going

587
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: to be living in somebody else's shadow your whole life.

588
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: So express that, express that, like that was my fight.

589
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: That's that was my why. Like I look back at

590
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: times like when I was talking when I was a

591
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: UF and all that, I'm screaming it. Ah, you know,

592
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: I get I clap them. Ah, you know what I'm saying.

593
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: But how do you get that some people is I'm

594
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: trying to you know, I got to feed my family. Yeah,

595
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, So what happened when you signed that

596
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: that one hundred million deal them? What then what your brothers?

597
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Like you started talking about brotherhood, Like I remember at UF,

598
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: my freshman year, I was in love with a soccer player.

599
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: You know, she was fine as hell. And it happens

600
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting with shoutouts homie, see Rich. I'm sitting

601
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: with Sea Rich and I'm at the game and I'm like, damn, yo,

602
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm feeling her. She's she's fired, and the guy sitting

603
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: right in front of us is her Pops.

604
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: Oh.

605
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Pops turns around and goes, I know you're not talking

606
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: about number ten on the Gators. And I was like,

607
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: I felt terrible. I was like damn. I was like,

608
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, see Rich. He's like, so, what the

609
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: fuck are you going to do? Love it? What the

610
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're gonna do? I felt terrible, but

611
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: I learned a lesson that day. It wasn't about right

612
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: or wrong. See Rich was gonna have my back, yes,

613
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: no matter what. Yes. And that happened before I even

614
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: played my first game at uf Man. So I knew

615
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I had my brother who was the roughest and toughest

616
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: one out here. Nobody was gonna fuck with Bristofer. Yeah, yeah,

617
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I knew I had that, But I had that. Then

618
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: I had Walter Hodge, Like, you know, we're talking about

619
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: the guys who made it to the NBA. But those

620
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: guys Walter Hodge five ten, fucking Puerto Rican, tough ass motherfucker,

621
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: like just so hungry. I was like, yo, I had

622
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: so much of that energy, like where I could just

623
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: I felt very comfortable just being a dog. You open.

624
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: You opened the door for me because I don't know

625
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: if you ever stepped foot on Gainesville's campus when he

626
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: was on there.

627
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: Nah, I ain't never been there.

628
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: I did.

629
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: I went back and spoke to the team one time.

630
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: I guess what I would like. I don't know if

631
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: it's true they wanted back to back championship after I

632
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: spoke to him.

633
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: I like to feel like my party ship did. Yeah,

634
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: the party ship motivation.

635
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: I literally you know the you know the Lebron commercial

636
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: where he gets he gets.

637
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: On the bike, you started riding. Yeah, and by the.

638
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Fucking time he gets the second block, there's like fifteen people.

639
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

640
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: I turned to look down one time on campus.

641
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: I went down.

642
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what were you back there for? What

643
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: were back there for?

644
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Wa, We're back?

645
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: It don't matter what it was was. I turn and look,

646
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: this motherfucker's got his shirt off. There's six thousand girls

647
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: chasing him down. I said, oh yeah, I said, what

648
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just happened here?

649
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: Damn?

650
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: Is that what the best number thirteen gets?

651
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: My thirteen came like come on, man, it did definitely

652
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: come on, stop it, stop it. Don't put me on

653
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: your number, put me in the hot seat like that,

654
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Like this ship was real comfortable. You were walking around

655
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: doing your homework. Don't do it like something.

656
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something so full of ship, it's perfect.

657
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: It's coming out his ears. Let me explain some teeth.

658
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: This motherfucker was the highest recruit in UF basketball history

659
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: when he came. Even though Teddy to pay will argue

660
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: who's better? Shout out? Tell you shout out because ted

661
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 4: told Mike at McDonald all American, I'm way better than you.

662
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: But it's crazy. He was the highest recruit to come

663
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: to you up in the history of US basketball.

664
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

665
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: So I tell your story that I told this story before.

666
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna make this ship up. You walk in

667
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: the office. It's me Brent, right, a major billy in

668
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: the office. We walk in the office. Hey, hey Major,

669
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: Hey u d Hey Brent, how y'all doing catching up?

670
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: Mike walking office two minutes later, Damn Billy, hold on, now,

671
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 4: we just saw us walking here. You ain't did nothing

672
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: but give us five. So he full of shittherfucker was

673
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: the man on campus, A lot of the fucking man

674
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: on campus.

675
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: And let's not forget he was a great white hope.

676
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: Oh man, listen. I came back and told all my

677
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: friends I seen the next thing coming. I seen a

678
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: fucking unicorn. Bro, I ain't never seen the white boy

679
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: who never Why that I could hoop like you dog,

680
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give your flowers, motherfucker, you can't stop me.

681
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, anyways, that's real.

682
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: One thing though, for real, and that we're you're talking

683
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: about before I got on there. Like, one thing I

684
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: respected about what you did is like you talk about

685
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: that energy and the stuff you did. I don't think

686
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: I've ever seen a game or a day you haven't

687
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: had that, and people understand how hard that is. Yeah,

688
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: like the eighty two games and your playoffs got like

689
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: you never changed one bit and.

690
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: It wasn't faked your ship. It was real. That's that's

691
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: that's the level you played at. It wasn't that fake bullshit.

692
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: We all know people that yell at fake shit and

693
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: that fake shit.

694
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: It was real.

695
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: What was what was with that, with that energy and

696
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: that ship, because with that comes you know, obviously confrontation

697
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: with people.

698
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: What was your welcome to the NBA moment?

699
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: My welcome to the NBA moment was it was the

700
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: KG ship. You know, he was he was one of

701
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: my heroes. He was the one that I had to

702
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: post up and in my room. And then you know,

703
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: a month later, you playing against your idol, and you know,

704
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: he's like the fuck out of my face with that

705
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 2: fucking I fuck with you shit, Like I'm not trying

706
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: to hear none of that. And Yo, it changed the

707
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: whole thing. I was like, Yo, never again, I'm not

708
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: making no friend that whole that moment changed everything. I'm

709
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: not fucking with nobody. I fuck with my teammates. I

710
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be friends. You know what, Actually, if

711
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: I keep that mindset, I'll be a better player. Yeah,

712
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna make me a better player. And I'm happy

713
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: that we were able to like talk about it, you know,

714
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: fifteen years later, I think that that's it's important.

715
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 4: Man.

716
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: You can't carry that shit to the grave, like at

717
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like that frequency that you

718
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: have to be at when you're playing these games. I

719
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: don't live my life like that no more. I'm trying

720
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: to bring people together. I'm trying to bring these shorties together,

721
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, people who are divided by these invisible lines,

722
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: like yo, this is my side, this is my side.

723
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: Like we're trying to bring people together. You know, it's

724
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: a bet out something that's bigger than basketball right now.

725
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 2: And that's that's the kind of energy that I'm trying

726
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: to when I'm talking about One City and these leagues.

727
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Yea, let's talk aout. Let's talk about because I think

728
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: it's dope and shit.

729
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Like we talked about what you did on an NBA career,

730
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people have great NBA careers, yours,

731
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: yours being elite, like the stuff you're doing with NBA

732
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: Africa One City.

733
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: Touch on that because I think.

734
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't think people hear it enough and you're not

735
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: out there preaching it and then you don't want the

736
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: credit for it. But I think, based on the platform

737
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: that we have, the stuff that I've heard about both

738
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: of those things is so dope. And you're the one

739
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: that's been telling me about this stuff for a while now.

740
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: To see to see where it's going now, what you're

741
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: doing with it, talk about it just for a little bit,

742
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: both One City and NBA Africa.

743
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you know, when I was

744
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: playing for the Bulls, you know, I started a foundation

745
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: right away. You know, I knew that there was a

746
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: lot of violence going on in that city, and I

747
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: felt like as a player, you know, I had a

748
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: voice and I had a platform to be able to

749
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: stand on something that was bigger than me. And remember,

750
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: you know, my third year in the league, we went

751
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: to the small church on the South Side, and you know,

752
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: I was working with Kobe Williams, you know, violence, violence interruptor.

753
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: And then we go into this church and the Nation

754
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: of Islam's doing the security in these church and we had,

755
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, all people from different parts of town, disciples Vice,

756
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: We had people from all different different sides playing basketball

757
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: against each other. Wow. And it was the most powerful

758
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: thing that I ever did. You know, it was bigger

759
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: than winning and losing. This was something that I felt like, Okay,

760
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: we got our hands on something special where everybody put

761
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: their beliefs and all their things to the side for

762
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: the good of the neighborhood. And you know now now

763
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: that I'm done playing, I'm really focusing on this One

764
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: City League. You know, we work with twenty eight different

765
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: violence prevention groups. Everybody brings their teams, you bring your

766
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: shorties from this side, you bring you bring your shorties

767
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: from this side, and we hoop and it's Look, we

768
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: never had an incident, you know, because and it's obviously

769
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: much bigger than basketball. What's going on here? These are

770
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: kids that could be going at it in the streets.

771
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: But you know what sports unites, It brings people together,

772
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm really proud. I'm really proud of

773
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: this One City League. I think it's the beginning of something.

774
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: One city league right now just in Chicago's just in Chicago,

775
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 2: but you know, guys are guys are interested in doing

776
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: it in their cities and we have you know, I

777
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: went to go see the governor, like, look, we're in

778
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: a position right now where we can.

779
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: And can what's your message because what you're trying to

780
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: what do you I mean, obviously you're getting people into

781
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: play that that obviously could be doing something else, But

782
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: what is your real message on it?

783
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: Because I think it's I.

784
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: Think when you tell when you told me the last

785
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: time I talked to you, it was freaking unbelievable.

786
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, I went to go see so I got some

787
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: funding for it. I pay my players, my participants. My

788
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: participants get paid fifty dollars a game, you know, So

789
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: now they want to be in the gym because they're

790
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: gonna get that fifty They're going to get that fifty dollars.

791
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: But it's also financial literacy. What kind of programs can

792
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: we put what kind of programs can we put to

793
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: uplift these kids that everybody turns their back on. Yes,

794
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, everybody has something to say, but who's active,

795
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: Like I want to know who's who's doing what? Who's active?

796
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: Like enough with this is what we got to do

797
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: gun violence? There's what are we doing like active? Yes,

798
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: So that That's where I'm at with it. Shout out

799
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: Tony Allen. He doing one in Memphis right now. You know,

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: we got to connect. Not long ago he's he's been

801
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: coming coming out in Chicago showing love to the to

802
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: the young men. So, you know, I just want to

803
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: connect with guys who are interested in that kind of work,

804
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: going back to the hood and doing some some powerful stuff.

805
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: Ud you know, we already know, you know how much

806
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: you do it. You know when I look at your career,

807
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: you know, even though you were kind of you know,

808
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: somebody I looked up to and a op at the

809
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 2: same time.

810
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: You know, I get it, I get it, I get it,

811
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: I get it.

812
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: You're not.

813
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: I get you're not. Like you said, that frequency we

814
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: played with, we don't carry that no more exactly. And

815
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: I gotta take a page at your book that was

816
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: that's a that's a that's I listen and I learned.

817
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And you know, we teach

818
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: leadership at all levels, and I can learn something from you,

819
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: just like you learn something from me. That frequency that

820
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: we played with. I'm just recently retired, and that's what

821
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: I'm working on, letting that shake up.

822
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: Working work in progress, working on the killer.

823
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: You know, like you said, that ship, that ship with

824
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: KG that that that ship still sits on me, the

825
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: kind of ship he used to talk, but it was

826
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: never to me. It was always to like Chris Bosh

827
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: and one of my teammates. And I just never could

828
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: get with disrespect because where I'm from, you talked that

829
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: ship at the park. Somebody gonna pop the trunk and

830
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: get it. It's bitchat and all us gonna have to leave.

831
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: I don't have so I was, yeah, they throw pop cords.

832
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: So I just couldn't. I couldn't get into those habits

833
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: of saying things just to say it and think it

834
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: was okay. It just never was okay for me because

835
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: I was always talking of disrespect nobody. You know what

836
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I held on and I still hold

837
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: on to that ship. You know what I'm saying. But

838
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: you made a great point. That's a different frequency.

839
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Man.

840
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: We can't take that ship with us your.

841
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: Film moment right here.

842
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: No, it's really I always needs a joint. I always

843
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: need is a joint.

844
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: You need a but I have one in the I

845
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: have one in my pocket because I knew she was

846
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: gonna get the people out of.

847
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: You get at. But no, that ship here hold.

848
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: I gotta let that ship go, though, Lie, And you

849
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: represent so much out here in Miami. I live here,

850
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: so I see what you stand on. You know, it's

851
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: always been on the court, but it's also what you

852
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: do off the court. You know, That's why people funk

853
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: with you here is because of what you do, not

854
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: just what you did winning championships. It's bigger than that.

855
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: And you know, that's one of the reasons why I'm

856
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: here right now is because I respect what you stand

857
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: on and you you represent that. You represent that. So

858
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: even though we play it at a certain frequency, like

859
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: these kids is like that's the type of ship, the

860
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: ship that was going on with KG and all that.

861
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Like kids get killed over shit.

862
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I'm saying. Gona pop the trunk and

863
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: like this bitch up, you're talking like that.

864
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: But you know, but now we're talking to now we're

865
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: talking to the shorties. We also got to show them like, look,

866
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: that's not the way I agree. That's not the way

867
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: I agree, you know.

868
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: And I also commend you for getting hands you know

869
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, being in the field, because it's easy

870
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: for us to throw some money at some ship.

871
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: And never show up.

872
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: But the people in the communities, the people in the hood,

873
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: they see through that shit. You got to be present.

874
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: Once you're present and they see you, they can reach

875
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: out and touch you and talk to you and have

876
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: conversations with you like a regular person. That's when they

877
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: take care of you just as much as you take

878
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: care of them. That's right, and that's when we call

879
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: that your face clean out here. When your face clean

880
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: out here, you can go anywhere you want, you know

881
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So the work that you're doing in

882
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: that inner city, just understand that because I know what's

883
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: shot Rack, like I pay attention. So the work that

884
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: you're doing in that city, not only is it going

885
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: a long way, but you also being present that presence

886
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: that city is gonna always take care of you. You

887
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because it's easy to throw money

888
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: at ship and never be present. That ship don't go nowhere,

889
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: and it does nothing. Your presence alone being there showing

890
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: that I'm in the fight with Y'all'm not standing at

891
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: the mountaintop, but I'm down here with y'all on this

892
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: ground level of this ship. That ship is gonna earn

893
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: you respect. That's why they're gonna fuck with you, and

894
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: that's why they do fuck with you.

895
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: That one city thing is gonna up being every everywhere.

896
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

897
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: I already love it. I want to I want to

898
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 4: hear more about it.

899
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: I love it. She's do one of the Miami down here.

900
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: Then I just said I want to hear more about it.

901
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: Heard about it, I said, more motherfuckers.

902
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: Well, damn.

903
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: Bill Walton state in the obvious ass. Go ahead, Bill

904
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: state obvious state the obvious Bill. Somebody listen, somebody, they'll

905
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: make a three point shot and Bi'll be like, he

906
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: just made a three that was okay, we just saw

907
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: the fucking shot.

908
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: Moving on, moving on.

909
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: So where in Miami filming og podcast loving being here,

910
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: So we'd be remiss not to talk about a young

911
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler.

912
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: Yes, Wow, what was it like?

913
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: What was it like?

914
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Or give me some good young because from I mean,

915
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: obviously we're older. So seeing him when he got drafted

916
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: to where he is now is just completely different. So

917
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: you saw him at the at the beginning of it all.

918
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Talk to us about it, Jimmy is he's as special

919
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: as they come. To talk about competition, I never competed

920
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: with somebody like that, you know, with that mindset he was.

921
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: We were coming off all those years with you guys

922
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: who got hurt, and then Jimmy gets drafted into that

923
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: kind of environment. That energy was all the same. When

924
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: Jimmy just came to Chicago and he didn't get to

925
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: play in the beginning. I remember his first game when

926
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: was Lou got hurt in the middle of a game.

927
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Jimmy's or loot didn't play against the Knicks and he

928
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: got to Garden Mellow and he did. He did such

929
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: a good job in that game. So in the beginning,

930
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Jimmy was just a real role player who played with

931
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: that the toughness, the competition that was already in him.

932
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: It just fit perfect exactly. And you know, just to

933
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: see the player that he's become, the work ethic that

934
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: he he took it to another level when it comes

935
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: to work ethic. Yes, and you know, I think there

936
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 2: were highs and lows with with Jimmy, you know, ups

937
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: and downs, but overall, you know, you got to give

938
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: credit when credit is due. Like everything that he has

939
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: right now came from work. And you know what that

940
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: nobody can take that away from jim down. Whether you

941
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: like him or not. You know, I respect the fuck

942
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: out of Jimmy Butler Man for for for you know,

943
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: just a winner, yeah, you know, a real winner.

944
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, So for all young kids coming in now,

945
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: because that's one of the biggest reasons we started the

946
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: OGS right is to help these youngis so Jimmy, you said,

947
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy already had what you guys in Chicago. You guys

948
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: in Chicago had an elite culture at the time. I

949
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: don't know what coach domain is there now, but like

950
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: elite culture. Do you think do you think Jimmy Butler

951
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: had that before you guys or or was that part

952
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: of being a part of that? Because I think for

953
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: young kids now when you come in, it's so important

954
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: where you get drafted to, like what environment you're walking into,

955
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: who you're going to be to find you a lot

956
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: of times unless you're just a dude, dude right, and

957
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: you can change those cultures and those those things. So

958
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: was that Jimmy there or was or was Chicago that

959
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: helped Jimmy out like that?

960
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think if you know Jimmy's background

961
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: a little bit, then it all makes sense. You know,

962
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: that's that's that was in him for a long time.

963
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: And look, does Jimmy have He's as competitive as they come.

964
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: Is there screws Loose? Yes? Is there Screwsless with me? Yes?

965
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: Is there screws Looss with him? Yes? Is there Scruss

966
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: with Pat Rally? Is that is Pat Raley a normal guy?

967
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: TIBs a normal guy? Like like Billy Donovan go to church. No, no, no, no, no, no,

968
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: don't get it yet. Don't believe that.

969
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was told that wold pretty much get let me,

970
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: I'll fuck you up. But I was like, damn, he

971
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: was about to fuck tear it up. But I was like, Yo,

972
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: we're running twenty twenties, yo, Vember twenty twenties.

973
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're run twenty twenties. And and Ted goes to

974
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Combaulsion in the middle of the floor. He told the

975
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: manager to go and drag his ass off.

976
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: That mother fuck out the way. Get him out the way,

977
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: the fuck out the way.

978
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: Get that Prima Donna.

979
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers.

980
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: Oh he almost get that motherfucker Prima Donna off the way.

981
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: Oh now, my fat ass at the time sitting over

982
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: here like no, give him a little more tag. They're

983
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: moving right now because I'm starying to fucking wrist.

984
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: See see there was no social media back then. No,

985
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: it's a different thing. These coaches could do whatever, like

986
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: not whatever. But almost I had it bad.

987
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 4: I had it bad. I used to get up in

988
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: these motherfuckers, used to make it. Used to make your

989
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: running times. You probably was used to make your running times.

990
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Huh.

991
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: He used to make his running times my big ass

992
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 4: I wouldn't make motherfucker used to make me get up

993
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: in the morning and run and did come back, and

994
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: obviously afterwards we had to do it again.

995
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: You guys, You guys didn't practice in the cage, did you. No,

996
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: we didn't have to do that. No, we weren't. No,

997
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: you have the new ship.

998
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 4: We had the new they had the basketball officer, the

999
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: one you pay for you exactly what you donated, exactly.

1000
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: You see this, mother slimy motherfucker.

1001
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: True. But listen, we're running.

1002
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: We're running twenty twenties the UD for people that.

1003
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: Don't know, it's a little bit bigger. Back in college,

1004
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't a great kid shot as hell.

1005
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: I walked in, I walked on campus at games, but

1006
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 4: I was two seventy four. So that's that's interesting, Like

1007
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: because you.

1008
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: Were you were like you were all you were all right,

1009
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: but you were a little you were a little chubby,

1010
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: too big. Yes, so that what happened.

1011
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: You got summer before I went to games with I

1012
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: was fucking off a ship that summer before I went

1013
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: to college.

1014
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we're running twenty twenties too, right, and we're

1015
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: on like this. At this time, we're probably on sixteens.

1016
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: So you grabs that four ways, Joe, Kim four Joe.

1017
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: He's far four way.

1018
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: You know, And I ain't gonna lie ye running running

1019
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: four way?

1020
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Running was never hard for me.

1021
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Like it was never like I do that. It's fucking like,

1022
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: but he's grabbing this fucking cage. You know, the twenty twenties,

1023
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: you got that twenty second, twenty four second rest of

1024
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: whatever it is between. I got to grab him off

1025
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: that cage, and I thought he was gonna fucking kill it.

1026
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: Like I said, dog, you got four left, bro, man,

1027
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: get the fuck off me. Okay, you're on your own.

1028
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: Knuckley next morning, I bet you wish you ran it

1029
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: four now, you.

1030
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: Wish I would have ran that shit because Billy, wake

1031
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: your glass up, and you got.

1032
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: To do it all over. You have to do it

1033
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: by yourself.

1034
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you gotta get up and do it all

1035
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: over again. And nobody's there. You know what I'm saying.

1036
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: That ship was like listen, my first month in Gainesville,

1037
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: I was ready to go home. It ain't had ship

1038
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 4: to do it with fucking school. It was a conditioning part.

1039
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 4: I thought I was here to play basketball, not run track. Yeah,

1040
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: I showed the run track, but I didn't understand the

1041
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: other part of basketball. Bro, I didn't understand that ship.

1042
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: Man was it was it was?

1043
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: It was school too.

1044
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: It was school too.

1045
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 4: Yes, motherfucker here got some nerve.

1046
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: Man.

1047
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: Billy called us in the office. We almost got out

1048
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 4: of there. Bro.

1049
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: That crazy he sitting here talking about it was running

1050
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: There was school too.

1051
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: Were you guys on them? Were you guys on that

1052
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: Maui trip Maui invitation? Can can we talk about this

1053
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: because I remember vaguely MP talking about it and tell

1054
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: us tell us the story I needed because I'm hearing

1055
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm hearing stories and stuff. The floor, I mean, he

1056
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: had the floor.

1057
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: He tells a good story.

1058
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: We we out in Maui for the Maui Invitation. Are

1059
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: you talking about what we got in this thing? Or

1060
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: are you tell me he's talking about got into with

1061
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: Billy Paragon. Yeah.

1062
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the motherfucker with paraseling Para siting Facebook in Hawaii.

1063
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: So he got suspended for a game. I think this

1064
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: was the first game over there. Him and Billy got

1065
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: into some ship. He got suspended for a game. He

1066
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: was talking about transferring all this ship at this time.

1067
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: It's my dog. I only went to Florida because of Brent.

1068
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I didn't know that much

1069
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: about Billy. I knew him because I saw him play

1070
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: in the AU tournament. I was like, this motherfucker Coke

1071
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 4: I knew. I knew Teddy do pay, so I knew

1072
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: my class coming in was gonna be a cold fucking class.

1073
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying, one of the top recruiting classes in the country.

1074
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 4: So we out of the male imitation. I think we're

1075
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: playing I guess Purdue. I think in the first we

1076
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: got Purdue. In the first game, Brent and Billy get

1077
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: into some ship. He suspended Brent for the game. We

1078
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: go to the game, we come back. Can't nobody find

1079
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 4: Brent Hick and this motherfucker coming back from parasaling this

1080
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: mother fucking literally pair of sling bro while we had

1081
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: to play a game and he was suspended. Listen, Brent,

1082
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: let me just tell you something. When you're suspended, it's

1083
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 4: like punishment. Not supposed to go outside tak itself. This

1084
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: fucker taking pictures paris selling Bro. I'm like, yo, that

1085
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: ship was fucking crazy. But I say that to say

1086
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: like Billy, Billy, Billy be wanting that smoke. Billy be

1087
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: wanting that smoke.

1088
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 2: Billy.

1089
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He don't back down. Billy

1090
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: will challenge you. You know what I'm saying, and he

1091
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: never back down. You have inner city kids. I'm from

1092
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: the inner city. Brent from the inner city. Billy ain't

1093
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: back down from Brent was like, motherfuckers, my way of

1094
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: the fucking highway. You know what I'm saying. Figure it

1095
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: out to get the fuck out, you know what I mean.

1096
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: Coach brought me and U D into into his office

1097
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: for the season started. We thought we're gonna get gassed up,

1098
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: like this is y'all ship. He sits down, he said,

1099
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: he says, the fuck y'all two doing. I looked at

1100
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: you just like I said, what you're doing? I'm grinding

1101
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: like I'm getting after it.

1102
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: He said that the season started to day, I couldn't

1103
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 3: play neither, y'all.

1104
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: We were both. He said, Mike, you gotta f and

1105
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: a D in. Then I said, damn, I got.

1106
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: A D Now. My confusion, Joe was I thought.

1107
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: I was doing good.

1108
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was actually applying myself. I was actually like,

1109
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: let me get here, Let me do my study, hall,

1110
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: let me do my shit. And it was at that

1111
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: point that I realized, you know what, I got cheat? No,

1112
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: I got cheat. I'm not gonna this. I'm not gonna

1113
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: make it. If I don't cheat, I'm gonna be out

1114
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: this bitch. Now, what I will say is, as I've

1115
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: gotten older and I realized book smart and intelligence is

1116
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: two different motherfucking things. Because I know a lot of

1117
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: motherfuckers that had straight a's and b's at University of Florida,

1118
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 4: and I conveniently strove by the asset the kiosks working

1119
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: in the mall. How did you end up here?

1120
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1121
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: Conveniently strove by these motherfuckers as they work at the

1122
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 4: kiosks in the mall? And I'm not knocking working at

1123
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: the kiosk, that's your thing, But how the fuck did

1124
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 4: you end up here when you was one of the

1125
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: smartest motherfuckers in our classroom? You know what I'm saying?

1126
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: So fast forward to where I'm at now. That degree,

1127
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 4: that piece of paper, I will tell my kids, work

1128
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: as hard as you can. Yes, you have to be educated,

1129
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 4: but a degree doesn't guarantee a motherfucking thing.

1130
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: Out here.

1131
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: That doesn't guarantee a goddamn thing. So I was actually

1132
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: ahead of the game by going to school for basketball.

1133
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: That was actually hit of the game. That's what it's

1134
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: hard to do.

1135
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: The school, the school, the way they expect you to

1136
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: do school, and then you're playing. You know, you're playing

1137
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: these games coming home at three o'clock in the morning,

1138
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: you got class. It's you know, people don't realize how

1139
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: hard it is to be a student athlete.

1140
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: And everyone's different.

1141
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm not.

1142
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm not giving myself a crush now, but I literally

1143
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: grew up in a town of thirteen thousand people. I'm

1144
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: two weeks later, I'm through two weeks laate for fucking

1145
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: yeah for school because I go to play in the

1146
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: U eighteens, right, I get dropped off there. I don't

1147
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: know what the fuck going on? You know how big

1148
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: campus is. Yeah, I didn't have a syllabis, I didn't

1149
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: have nothing.

1150
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: I was just like, okay, I'll show up at the

1151
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: weight room.

1152
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: Parking full of money though there was there wasn't Google

1153
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 4: park got a pocket full of change though he show

1154
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: he showed up with that jack pocket full.

1155
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Of anyway, duck making it hot.

1156
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: He making it hot a pocket.

1157
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: We're talking about money, but going to prize picks.

1158
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 4: One thing I got to ask him to before we

1159
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: go to prize picks. How was it playing at home?

1160
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: Because I played at home? And that's that's that's the

1161
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: double edged sword that ship is. It's good, but it's

1162
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: also fucking bad. It comes with a lot. I played

1163
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: at home my whole career. How did you enjoy representing

1164
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: playing at home?

1165
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: This shit was tough?

1166
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

1167
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: I was ready. I thought I was ready for all that. No,

1168
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: I was not ready.

1169
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't think people understand how tough that is.

1170
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: It was like injuries. You know, I couldn't do what

1171
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: I wanted to do. And you know you have you

1172
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: have dreams, you know of just like being able to,

1173
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: like play at home, play in front of your loved ones,

1174
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: fuck that ship up and get get them hype. And

1175
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: my body would not let me do it, you know,

1176
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 2: Like I remember that first game we play Memphis, we win.

1177
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I think I had like eight and eight and you know,

1178
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: do you know all the other ship too? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1179
00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: you know sticks, yeah, you know, but crowd going, crowd going,

1180
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: fucking ham. I'm like, yo, this is the best shit ever. Yes,

1181
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: I come home after the game, I got eighty motherfuckers

1182
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: in my house, shout out to a lot of my

1183
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: homies right here, and I just remember my pops being

1184
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: there and he looked at me and he starts shaking

1185
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: his head and I'm looking at him like I got this.

1186
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: I got this. Man. I didn't have shit. Yeah, I

1187
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: didn't have shit. That was the hardest time. Bro. I thought,

1188
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, I thought I was in heaven. Man. That

1189
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: shit was hell. Bro. I felt like a fish in

1190
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: a in a fish bowl, you know what I'm saying. So,

1191
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you make decisions like you want to

1192
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: play at home. Sometimes sometimes that's not the right decision.

1193
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: For me. That was that was a tough That was

1194
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: a tough pill to swallow because I couldn't you know.

1195
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: When I look back on my career, I was like, damn,

1196
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: Like I just I wish that I could have done

1197
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: more playing playing back home, but it just didn't work out.

1198
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: I mean for me, you know, I learned from it

1199
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: from experience. Its trialing error. Sometimes keeping it real go wrong,

1200
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was always want to

1201
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: keep it real. I always roll twenty twenty five deep,

1202
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: Like you say, you're home and it's like eighty motherfuckers

1203
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: in your house. And then you get to the point

1204
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: where you kind of realize, like, Okay, what do I

1205
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: want this to look like? Five, six, seven, eight years

1206
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: from now? You're not looking at that early, but you're

1207
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: looking at that moving forward. Then you starting to realize

1208
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: that you got to start to surround yourself with a

1209
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: certain kind of person, with a certain kind of people,

1210
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: and everybody don't deserve your energy, you know what I'm saying.

1211
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: So I had a chance to learn that early. But

1212
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: I think people think that that's such a blessing to

1213
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: be able to play at home. And I'm happy that

1214
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: you spoke on the other side of it, But it's not.

1215
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: It's not It's not what everybody think is chopped up

1216
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: to be. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you

1217
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: had a team of Mitchell South Dakota. You had a

1218
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: chance to play they had the NBA team in South Dakota.

1219
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: When like that had a team in South Dakota with

1220
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: thirteen thousand people in your list, Like sid would you

1221
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: play that?

1222
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: You know what my dad mom always told me to

1223
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: take to take the you know, be classy, you know

1224
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm just gonna say, fuck you.

1225
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: Prize picks, all right, take it out, free money around here.

1226
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Just check out Prize Picks and Prize Picks. Today is

1227
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: Joe's top five Power forwards of all time?

1228
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: Whose list is?

1229
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 2: This is my list?

1230
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 4: So what ud I like this list? But don't Yeah,

1231
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: don't d M me complain about Joe list of me.

1232
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: Stay out my fucking dms. These motherfuckers, Like, I swear

1233
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: to god, bro this one thing about this podcast, everybody

1234
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: got something to complaining about. You can say, the sky

1235
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: is blue. The motherfucker gonna dmu's talking about some no,

1236
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: the sun went down and clips. Yeah, like, get the

1237
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 4: fuck out of here with that ship, man, that ship

1238
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: is crazy, dog Like. That's the one thing about this podcast.

1239
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: Ship is everybody. You know, you open up yourself to,

1240
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, everybody feel like they can have a conversation

1241
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: with you. So anyway, this is Joe Top five DM

1242
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 4: joke cut his ass out.

1243
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: So my first, my first power forward.

1244
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: I love she bad motherfucker. You don't get credit.

1245
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: She was a motherfucker on my rookie year. I'll never

1246
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: forget I play against she. He gets the ball in

1247
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: the post. He goes an inside pivot. I'm gonna pump fake,

1248
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take one dribble, I'm gonna shoot it. He

1249
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: looks bad. I'm like he did that same ship made it.

1250
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: He would tell you that's how comfortable they were. They

1251
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: were winning, they were winning chance, they were so good. Yes,

1252
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: they were good. That that's how fucking she didn't give

1253
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: a fuck. Man. I love she that, but that was

1254
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: the most disrespectful ship she ever ball. She still to

1255
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: this day that ship fucked me up. My first play

1256
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: against you told me what the fuck he was gonna

1257
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: do and made the shot.

1258
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 4: That's some cold ship shot.

1259
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: She kg enough said, just he brought an energy to

1260
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: this ship that for sure was just unmatched. For sure,

1261
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: it was disrespect ful. It was disrespectful. But that's another story.

1262
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: But he's on the court, accomplished court. You cannot knock

1263
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: at all, top top top Charles Oakley. Oh fucking g

1264
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: O G. But she's Charles Oakley. It was like his

1265
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: game wasn't flashy or nothing, but he helped you win.

1266
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: And having a guy like oak makes everybody else on

1267
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: the court comfortable. Like as great as Patrick Ewing was

1268
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: having a guy like Oak there helped him.

1269
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: He scared the ship out of people, scared the shop

1270
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: of me.

1271
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: Every time I saw him talk, he was about that.

1272
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: I mean like literally scared me, Like he was about

1273
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 4: that life.

1274
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: Yo, Like, I'm afraid of you. We're playing. We're been

1275
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: telling him that, no, no, no, never do that. But

1276
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: but oh, I'm fucking afraid of you. We played, We played.

1277
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: We played them one time in Chicago and I walk

1278
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: out with a suit on and he walks.

1279
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: Up to me.

1280
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: He's like, I like that ship, y'all. Fella, that motherfucker chest.

1281
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit hurt? What? Yeah? So next?

1282
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: OK, real, motherfucker, I never forget Listen, I'm not trying

1283
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: to be funny, dog, and I'll be honest with you.

1284
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: Dog.

1285
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 4: One time we had Tyrone Hill on our team and

1286
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 4: motherfucker Oak some money for playing cards, and that motherfucker

1287
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: we went to play against Philly in Philly. I don't

1288
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: know what Oak was doing at that game, but Tyrone

1289
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 4: Hill got sick and he did not go warm up.

1290
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: But he did not play that night. Oak was looking

1291
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 4: for that motherfucker. It was well known in the locker room. Oh,

1292
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: we're looking for this nigga. This nigger got sick and

1293
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: didn't play that night. And I'm not making this ship up.

1294
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: Dog Oak is with that ship. Another story. I've seen

1295
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 4: oakan Vegas. Take note, listen. I've seen Oak Vegas take

1296
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: on the whole security straight up. He showed up there

1297
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: later on that night with a sling on his arm,

1298
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: but he took on the whole security. Dog got a

1299
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: pool party in Vegas. Dog, real ship. Dog Oak is

1300
01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: about that life.

1301
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: Dog. A lot of people got that old flu before games.

1302
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: What see for show? And it wasn't because he was

1303
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: averaging twenty points.

1304
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: He was gonna bring that ship all that fake shit.

1305
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: He ain't with that no ever. What's number four up there?

1306
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: H different style, but I'm gonna go the big german,

1307
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: the big duck, the big Duckwitzki.

1308
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: Tough cover, my toughest cover because I had never seen

1309
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 4: a fucking seven foot runoff baseline floppies.

1310
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1311
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 4: I had to literally hedge on the pick and roll

1312
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: on the perimeter and chase that motherfucker off a baseline flopping.

1313
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 4: I had never seen that before. Yeah, so to me

1314
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: that and I tell him that, I told him this

1315
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 4: when I when I saw him at his Hall of

1316
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: Fame when d Wade went in, I told him thank

1317
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: you because at that point in my career, my career

1318
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: could have win either way. You brought out my best

1319
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: version and I appreciated.

1320
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: Him that respect. Sure you want a championship, yes, last one,

1321
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: but hold on the Dirk. My My Dirk story is

1322
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: my first preseason game in the NBA. Were playing the Avers,

1323
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: so you know, we don't have all our coverages down,

1324
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: but I down the pick and roll and I gotta

1325
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: get back to Dirk. He made that when he I

1326
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: still remember to this day the way he shot that

1327
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: eighteen foot that ship didn't even touch the man. Man,

1328
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I looked at the coach like, yo, yo,

1329
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: you put me in a position to fail, right, That's

1330
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: that's not right. How you going How you gonna have

1331
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: me down to pick and roll on Dirk Nowitzky?

1332
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, listen your position to what put me in a.

1333
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: Position to fail? Man, coach skyles Man, that was some bullshit. Bullshit.

1334
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: Going going back to She, you didn't go to the

1335
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: next one. But going back to She, they ran a

1336
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: similar play where they had rip come off of Floppy.

1337
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: You had the hedge on the floppy. From rip, she

1338
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: popping back to the three. She was different, bro, I

1339
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 4: literally was the same thing. You're setting me up for

1340
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 4: failure because I have to hedge on rip with this floppy.

1341
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: You have to rip come off the flopp He's one

1342
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 4: hundred miles an hour and he making that ship like

1343
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 4: like water. But this motherfucker is flaring back to the

1344
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: three any seven feet. I can't contest that that's traumatizing.

1345
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 2: Bro. It is traumatizing shit.

1346
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 4: Bro It fucking is your fucking anxiety is on.

1347
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: Ten traumatizing sh it is traumatizing shit. Look you see

1348
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: how you are you talking about this ship twenty years later?

1349
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: That ship was, bro, that ship, that ship? How you

1350
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: up at night? That ship you up at night? Dog?

1351
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 4: Because first things first, I gotta stop rip on his heage.

1352
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 4: I got a hedge first, stop this fucking either curl

1353
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: it or to pull up fifteen foot?

1354
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: Do you didn't want to hear the word seventy seven?

1355
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: Now run seventy seven? Fucking this was in the action.

1356
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: That's what.

1357
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: That shouldn't make you hate your coach like you're gonna

1358
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna fucking have me do some bullshit. This is

1359
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: what I have to do against What the fuck am

1360
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? When he pops over there? What

1361
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: am I supposed to You know, he gives you a

1362
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 2: bullshit answer. Man.

1363
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: You know I used to just tell myself. I used

1364
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: to tell myself. I used to just repeat this to myself.

1365
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta have enough for everybody, so till you

1366
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: gotta having a part for everybody. I gotta do multiple

1367
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: jobs I gotta do. I gotta do multiple people jobs.

1368
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 4: This is my job.

1369
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: You know what.

1370
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 4: I like that therapy is working for you. This is

1371
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 4: my job to do other motherfucker's job. This is my

1372
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: job to do other people jobs.

1373
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: Therapy really showing up for sure? Sure give her a

1374
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: pay raise fifth.

1375
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: One fifth, one ud. First of all, this ship is

1376
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: give me. I remember how you came into this motherfucker

1377
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: like an hour ago, and now we're talking about this year.

1378
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: I see how crunk you are. I see it still

1379
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: it's still there being, still.

1380
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: Working on it.

1381
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: Dog.

1382
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 4: I tell you I'm working. I'm working. I'm working. By

1383
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 4: the time next time you see me, I'll be a

1384
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: little better one percent every day I got.

1385
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: I got that piff in my pocket. We could keep

1386
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: that like this and then the fifth one. You know,

1387
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: you got to give a shout out to Tim Duncan

1388
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: you know he was just different CLASSI no bullshit, you know,

1389
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: just you could just tell he was just working on

1390
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: that bank all day. Man. He was the first one

1391
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: I saw he had the headphones in. I remember, like

1392
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: he's to come in to do his shooting with the

1393
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: with the head Nobody had the headphones. He was the

1394
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: first one to put the headphones at first. So shout out,

1395
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan.

1396
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: You know with your little fifteen ft can't defend that ship,

1397
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: couldn't defend I get it, I get hand. The ball

1398
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: could test hand in his face. You got his dog

1399
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 4: ten thousand, ten thousand hours whatever they call that ship

1400
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 4: that he didn't even have to see the basket that's there.

1401
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: It's a lead list, by the way.

1402
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: But before we leave, because here at the Old G

1403
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: Show we are the man of the people, we go

1404
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 1: to the fan questions again. I don't know what they're

1405
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna be, but we're gonna work through it. Okay, First one,

1406
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: have you an LBJ worked things out yet?

1407
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: Uh? Nope, If we haven't, But you know, we didn't talk.

1408
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: I was thinking we were going to talk a little

1409
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: bit about the Cleveland thing. I know you want to

1410
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: no no elite, Yes, we have to. I can't get

1411
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 2: out of here.

1412
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well my I because I'll be honest, I was.

1413
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: I played in Cleveland. I enjoyed my time in Cleveland.

1414
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not so much.

1415
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: Go ahead, you enjoy your time and that's Steads time.

1416
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 2: Stop it.

1417
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: The fuck is you talk about it? Goddamn lie the

1418
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: fuck you lie to this the O G Show. We

1419
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: can't lie to y'all. You can't lie.

1420
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: Ask you a question.

1421
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: But I think this ship is deep right because still

1422
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: to this day, that's people really hit different when I

1423
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: see somebody from Cleveland, like they're not happy about this ship,

1424
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: like they still you know, people really know you you

1425
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: disrespected where I'm from. Well, people have to understand that

1426
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with Cleveland. It had everything

1427
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: to do with that motherfucker Lebron James. Like Yo, every

1428
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: year you're losing, you know, you have to get through

1429
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: him to get to to the to the glory. Yes,

1430
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: that's where it came from. Like people trying to make

1431
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: it like yo, fuck this side, this is our side,

1432
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: Like okay, that's that's just you're just you're looking at it.

1433
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: You're looking at it wrong. This is competition. This is

1434
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: where you represent. I don't give a funk about what

1435
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: you represent. I'm this is Chicago bulls like that. That's

1436
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: all it was. Lebron was so good. He was stunting

1437
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: on us. He was stunting on us like he over

1438
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: here dancing before the game. I got Pete Myers in

1439
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: my ear talking about you. You see this ship, you

1440
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 2: see this ship. I'm I'm a competitor. I see this ship.

1441
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: This ship drove me fucking nuts. So I had to

1442
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: let him know. But because Lebron James and all this

1443
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: ship and now people think it's like there's other cities

1444
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: that are just as whack as Cleveland. This is true.

1445
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: This is true.

1446
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 4: And let me tell you something.

1447
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: If I'm and.

1448
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 4: If I'm you, I wouldn't even fucking apologize because at

1449
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: the end of the day, Brown from Akron, not Cleveland.

1450
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 4: And if anybody know anything Akron, niggas, If anybody know

1451
01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 4: anything niggas Bron from Akron, not Cleveland, And if you

1452
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 4: know anything about it accuring in Cleveland, don't even fucking

1453
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 4: get along. So you Cleveland motherfucker's just looking for something

1454
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 4: to do. They got nothing better to do.

1455
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1456
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 4: I'm just telling the truth.

1457
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: The question was asked to you after the game.

1458
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was right after the game. I got to

1459
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: guard Shack the next day. I'm talking about shit was real,

1460
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: Like we lose Game one. I had said something about Cleveland.

1461
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm in that. I'm in that wavelength, Like, Yo, we

1462
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: just lost, and you want to talk to me about

1463
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: some fucking about how you feel about Cleveland. Like, man,

1464
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear the ship. You see how

1465
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: pissed I am in that video, you know. But that

1466
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: was like people twenty like I'm in the club. The

1467
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: other day they stopped the music like Yo, the DJ like, Yo,

1468
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm from Cleveland. Bro, God it's still going on. I'm like, yo, man, yo,

1469
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't even like I'm having a good time. Somebody

1470
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: like they're still mad about They're still mad about Cleveland,

1471
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: Like Yo, it's no Like, Okay, we was going at it.

1472
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: Y'all got the championships. I didn't win the championships, but

1473
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: that's where it came from. It came from a competition.

1474
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: It was strictly it was nothing personal. I'll be honest.

1475
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't say it, like, yeah, I can.

1476
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: We can say if I like Cleveland or not, we'll argue,

1477
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: tell her blue in the face. But you didn't say it,

1478
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: like I don't hear many people say they won't go

1479
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 1: on vacation in Cleveland.

1480
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

1481
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean you actually you actually threw him a die

1482
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: you kind of boom.

1483
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 4: He stayed.

1484
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: Shout out to Cleveland man, Shout out to Cleveland man.

1485
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: That's right. There might be some people who like going

1486
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: to vacation. I don't know.

1487
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, like wherever

1488
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 4: we go, Like you know what I'm saying, we ain't

1489
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,440
Speaker 4: got to like all the towns. Just be just be respectful,

1490
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That's all that's for me.

1491
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: Just be respectful. I can't tolerate disrespect. I ain't gotta

1492
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 4: like your town. You ain't got like mine. That's fine.

1493
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: Tie it to your fucking opinion.

1494
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: Okay, question the back to back floor Gators, the back

1495
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: to back of ucon Hussey's it's a fitting time to

1496
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: ask this question.

1497
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: Who wear A great time to ask this question?

1498
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 3: Good, good time to ask this question.

1499
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, guys, like, good time to ask

1500
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to say? Yukon Husky is going

1501
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: to beat us? No chance?

1502
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 3: Like I say, it's a good time to ask.

1503
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's a good answer. Yeah to me,

1504
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean you're saying it's a dumb ass question. It's

1505
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: a dumb ass question. That's all right. Hey, big heat energy,

1506
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: big heat energy. Not it's not it's not personal. It's

1507
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: not personal. But I'm a Florida Gator. These are the

1508
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: guys that I love going to battle with. Do I

1509
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: think that we would beat Yukon Huskies? Absolutely? I think

1510
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: we would just wax they fucking as you heard it here?

1511
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: God damn right.

1512
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: So that's the fucking big angry is over here. Tell

1513
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: us about your toughest matchup against you D.

1514
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 4: Why did you ask about yourself?

1515
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: Why you asked about coach the questions right there and

1516
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: didn't say.

1517
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: What you say his name? Say his name?

1518
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 2: Hold on, Philip J. Pretty good Florida Gator. My toughest,

1519
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: My tough matchup where UD had to be Game two,

1520
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: Like we were talking about it a little bit earlier.

1521
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 2: But you d that that year if you D hadn't

1522
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: played in that series, I don't think Miami Heat make

1523
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: it to their first chip, you know, and that that's real.

1524
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: You know that that's I'm not saying that. I'm not

1525
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: saying that just just because UD's right here. It's it's

1526
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: we were fucking you guys up on the boards. And

1527
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, like these narratives like they people forget quick.

1528
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 2: Oh Miami he got the championship. No, no, why did Miami

1529
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: Heat get the Like let's get into the details. Carlos

1530
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: Boozer and joking was fucking you guys up on the

1531
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: glassy and then as Chris Bosh still would get his

1532
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: buckets and all that stuff, but it was a different

1533
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: this we're talking about something completely. We're talking about being

1534
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: a plus eight plus ten on the glass. That's extra

1535
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: shots for your top players. Those extra that usually translates

1536
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: to wins and losses. That's how we was fucking dudes up.

1537
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: You donnas came in on one foot and handled it

1538
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: and handled the business, taking taking all kinds of toward

1539
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: all shots and ship like that. You know, sacrifices must

1540
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: be made. That's what you got to do to win

1541
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: a chip.

1542
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: Literally, we didn't win it that year, right with us,

1543
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 4: the year we lost to San Antonio we lost to

1544
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: Dallas that year in the first year, So right after

1545
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 4: we lost that championship, I went right back into surgery

1546
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 4: the next day I had to. Yeah, I had surgery

1547
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: that season. I came back right in the uh in

1548
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: the Boston Series one game before we played y'all. As

1549
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 4: soon as we finished that season, I went right back

1550
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: into surgery again the next day on my same foot.

1551
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know.

1552
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1553
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: How many surgeries you had on that foot just in

1554
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: general in your career? Four?

1555
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 4: I mean four, one on two on my foot, one

1556
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 4: on my knee, and I had a bust over.

1557
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: Located my shoulder against y'all, chasing fucking what's his face

1558
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: around the screen, and Carlos Boozer rolled up on it dislocated.

1559
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: What about you your come final? I eight? Eight? Really yeah?

1560
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's like, did you work out today? Yes,

1561
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: you worked out today? Did you work out today?

1562
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: Huh?

1563
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: No, work you don't work out? Just wow, shoot jumpers.

1564
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 4: That's that's elle a legend because if I did that,

1565
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: my ship I blow up. I can't just stop like

1566
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: that cold turkey.

1567
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: Just go to that next page real quick. I got

1568
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: one more question for it. Because otherwise we'll talk like

1569
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: we'll sit here here with you forever. Yeah, if you

1570
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: could play with with any player in today's era, who

1571
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: would it be?

1572
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: And why? If I could play with anybody, I would

1573
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: have to say, Man, Wemby, because I'm seeing fucking Wemby

1574
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: do ship I've never seen before. Yesterday they played Memphis,

1575
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: right it was a three on one. Did you see that? Yes?

1576
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: Did you see that? They stopped? They just Yo, that's

1577
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: the craziest ship. That was the craziest clip I've ever seen.

1578
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, three on one. They threw that

1579
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: ship back like it was like it was somebody we

1580
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: were playing on the nerve against kids.

1581
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: It's like when you watch soccer and they kick it back.

1582
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that shit is crazy. They want no parts of that.

1583
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: Wow, I saw it. I saw it with my own eyes.

1584
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: Shout out to Wemby. Man. The ship that Wenby's doing

1585
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: right now, I've never seen before on a basketball.

1586
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because before you leave here,

1587
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: when I asked you about that, you were a Defensive

1588
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Does he win the Should he

1589
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: win Defensive Player of the Year this year? There's a

1590
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: taggering stack. We pulled up the staggering stat like he's

1591
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: had more blocks. He's already had more blocks than eighty

1592
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: nine percent of the NBA in the history.

1593
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: He's played one he didn't even play a full year. Yeah,

1594
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:52,959
Speaker 3: and he plays like twenty.

1595
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: Two minutes a game.

1596
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the status.

1597
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: Literally he's had more blocks in his career than eighty

1598
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: nine percent of the league. Yeah, I still said I

1599
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: still I still say no. I still say no. You

1600
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: got to be a top defense, a top team defense,

1601
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: a top team defense. Great point, great point, you got

1602
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: to because to me, to me, it's individually. Is he

1603
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: the best defender? Yes, but you know, half the ship

1604
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: when you're when you're the big guy, you're the one

1605
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: who's got to orchestrate the other guys. That's a big

1606
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: part of it too. Your blocks is blocks is great?

1607
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: Are your blocks staying in bounds? I want to know

1608
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: if I want to know how you're affecting like winning. Yes,

1609
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: sometimes down in the pick and roll, calling it early

1610
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: like that's not on the statue. Yeah, you know, like

1611
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: when I went DP O Y they were and to

1612
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: be we're talking this is real, Like Jimmy Butler, I

1613
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: could say I was a better defender than Joe Kiem

1614
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: like Kirk Heinrich I had. He's picking up full court. Yeah,

1615
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I had real dogs with me,

1616
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: like they would teaching like Kirk Henrick was teaching me defense.

1617
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1618
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 2: The intensity, Like I remember my first playoffs. Here, I'm

1619
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: playing Rey Allen. Fucking rey Aalen hits a three in

1620
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: my face. I should have called the switch early. We

1621
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: lose Game two off of my fuck up. The Kirk

1622
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: Henrik didn't talk to me for that whole series. But okay,

1623
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm learning. That's my og, Like I'm this is the

1624
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: this is oh, this is what it is. This is

1625
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: what it is. Like I fuck up one assignment game

1626
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,839
Speaker 2: on the line, instead of us being up two to oh,

1627
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: it's one to one. Yeah, you got to think about

1628
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: that ship for the next three days, traumatized.

1629
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than those days off between playoff games.

1630
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 4: And that's what you that's what you did well. And

1631
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 4: we can go back to KG for a second. Is

1632
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 4: the communication. A lot of people don't understand how Biggs

1633
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 4: can't be the anchor of your defense, your communication, you loud.

1634
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying you're ahead of the play.

1635
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 4: You're letting everybody know the same thing KG did when

1636
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 4: you're on offense. That ship is demoralizing with the motherfucker

1637
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 4: is literally calling every action out. He's being ahead of

1638
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 4: the action. He's loud, he's very vocal. He's keeping everybody

1639
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 4: defensively on the same pace. That shit is discouraging this offense.

1640
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 4: And that's what you did. Well, did great, Kase did

1641
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 4: the same shit.

1642
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: Man, I respect before we get out of here, just

1643
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: because we're talking about look at that. Look at that

1644
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: stat right there. Though it's pretty impressive. He just got

1645
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: pulled off again. But hundred and forty five blocks in

1646
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: sixty nine games. Ruga Beart has two hundred and forty

1647
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: five blocks in one hundred and forty one games, half

1648
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: the minute, over more than half the minutes.

1649
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 2: I mean, look, that's impressive. It's it's crazy. That's crazy

1650
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: league stat wise. Stat wise, I think that you know

1651
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: team defense, Like, okay, I understand these are awards individual.

1652
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: This is a team game, especially defense. You're not winning

1653
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: that shit by yourself. So if he wants to win it,

1654
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: if you want, I mean, look, he's gonna win a

1655
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 2: lot of these things, but team defense.

1656
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, man, I appreciate you coming out here. It was

1657
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of fun shooting shit with you, man like

1658
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: floor legend, and we appreciate you coming.

1659
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate one thing.

1660
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: We left off before, I before, before we did this,

1661
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: which I don't think people understand either. You were one

1662
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: year was second and MVP voting to you.

1663
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 2: Do you know that it wasn't second, I got numbers,

1664
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: it was fourth. It was fourth, coach, so the numbers

1665
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: are live. I mean I lived it. No, I lived

1666
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: it through the numbers. It's pretty impressive, coach, Like if

1667
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,520
Speaker 2: you tell me that impressive.

1668
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: GS out man had a great time. We have a

1669
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: special delivery in the building here at the O g S.

1670
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: We are big fans of Morgan and Morgan because they

1671
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: are for the people today, they are for the Noah

1672
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: Arcs Foundation. We have ourselves a big ass check coming

1673
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: to Dan Morgan.

1674
01:19:49,439 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: Welcome to the stage. Please Ogs. You know there's one

1675
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: of our young boys, you know, from from the Gators.

1676
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: You know, let's not get it twisted.

1677
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know, but this is my

1678
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: og right here right all the freshman when he was

1679
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: up there. So it's happy to be back. And give

1680
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: back when you have thirty thousand dollars to the One

1681
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: City Leadership Summit. What's going on this June.

1682
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 3: We're having to be a part of it, and we're

1683
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: gonna keep it going.

1684
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: Big job. Appreciate man, Appreciate you. Demo. Absolutely. I got

1685
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: one more saying for you too, Jeff. Check out that

1686
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: box right there. That's for me for you. Sixteen I

1687
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Get I Get Love, b I Get Love Sigh sixteen.

1688
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,520
Speaker 3: Morgan and Morgan kicks Morgans.

1689
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: I thought there with Jordan's oh shit, these are fired

1690
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: the air. Morgan's Yo, these are We're going out tonight.

1691
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm wearing these tonight. Yo. This is crazy, yo, come on,

1692
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: be hold on, hold on, this is this is demo

1693
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: you're talking about. Screws Loose and sig Month. You are sick,

1694
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 2: you sick man. You're sick for this, for the O

1695
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: g