WEBVTT - Drive Time: Bills Perspective with Joe Marino 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.880 To on the move, Dall and deep speedways past Hell. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex, 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:18.440 this is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. Please God my hands 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:29.280 in the playoffs? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.599 the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.040 And on today's show, we welcome in an old friend 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.160 of the program as Joe Marino helps us get ready 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.560 for Dolphins and Bills. A little bit less luster going 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.440 into this one, but we're gonna talk about it anyways. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.600 We'll also make the week nine picks and talk a 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.839 little bit about the third year of Dolphins regimes and 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.879 why does it always get this way? From the Baptist 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.160 Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.760 the Draft Time Podcast. Heye Daffy to help us get 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.160 to know our division rivals a little bit better ahead 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.120 of Dolphins and Bills. Let's go ahead and welcome in 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.880 the man who knows this team better than anybody else 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.160 on the planet for my money, he is Joe Marino. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.320 You can find his work everywhere Locked on NFL Scouting, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.559 Lockdown Bills, the First Read Podcast. He also just launched 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.840 his new Substack the Herd Mentality and Joe, it's eleven 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.160 am here doing this podcast with you and this YouTube 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.120 show with you. But I'm guessing you're probably about six 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.720 hours or so into your workday, maybe a couple of 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.240 prospects deep at this point. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.920 You know it, my guy, You know it. Hit the 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.039 desk before five am and get to work. Man, when 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.120 you got two kids, you gotta get a lot of 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.280 work done while they're sleeping. And so I find that 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.959 the farmers hours are undefeated. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:45.280 Dude. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.600 Man, no one's bothering you. Everyone's asleep, social media, nothing's happening. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.840 So you got to take advantage those early morning hours, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:52.480 my guy. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:53.920 That sounds kind of nice. I used to be a 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:55.640 night owl. I would go up, my wife would go 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.480 to bed. I'd go upstairs and do all my film 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:58.920 work up there. So it's I guess one of the 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.240 other yachts pick that they're early morning hours of late night. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.280 I'm a late night guy. We have an early morning 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.200 guy with us here in Joe Marino. But let's go 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.920 ahead and pivot into a football game. We've talked about 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.959 so many times, you and I on this channel, on 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.079 your channel, as you talk with my good friend Kyle 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.080 Krabs as well. Obviously, I'm pretty sure that my first 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.959 question could provide us with like five or six back 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.120 and forth follow ups, So we'll just see how it 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.920 goes from there. But I've done my best throughout the 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.560 course of the offseason and of course the Week two 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.160 game to explain Joe the difference in Ken Dorsey and 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.080 going to Joe Brady, you know, over basically a year now, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.600 and I'm curious to hear from the expert. How would 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.480 you explain the shift from like last November whatever it 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.000 was when they made the switch from Dorsey as play 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.600 caller to now Joe Brady. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.960 Wow, there's a lot we can get into there. Obviously, 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.440 it's been a good move for the Bills offense, a 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.720 lot more cohesive, performing a lot better. What really comes 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.079 to mind two things here. I think Ken Dorsey is 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.560 a very good play designer, and I think in some 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.880 ways he's good play caller. But conceptually his offense puts 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.079 a lot on everybody being on the same page. Everybody 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.799 has to see it the exact same way, and there's 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.480 answers built in if everyone knows what the defense is 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.519 doing and what side adjustments to make. And I thought 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.680 this led to a disjointed offense because Josh Allen might 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.200 see it different than his receivers or the protection might 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.799 see it a little bit differently, and if anybody's off, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.600 the whole offense kind of fails. And then certainly Josh 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.639 Allen his physical upside, he can make something out of nothing, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:36.080 but it became that too often, where Joe Brady I think, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.360 has made things a little bit more simple. Now there's 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:39.840 a lot of layers to the Bills offense, a lot 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.120 of different ways that they can attack you, but I 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.480 feel like it's. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.480 Become more. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:50.400 Just run the play, just run the play, as opposed to, okay, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.720 if they do this, then you do that. And I 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.840 think that's led to a lot of success and simplifying things, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.000 but also the run game. And that's really probably been 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.280 the biggest shift since Joe Brady took over, is this 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.760 offense has been just as much about running the ball 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.120 as it is throwing it. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.600 With Josh Allen and James Cook. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.640 Has really emerged, the Bills have morphed into this zone 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.880 rushing scheme that is very cohesive with their blocking, and 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.359 that's of course a benefit to your passing offense. So 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.880 I think becoming a more simplified offense that doesn't put 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.160 as much on side adjustments. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.240 And then also that ability. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.840 To run the football I think is unlocked a lot 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.440 of layers for Buffalo offensively. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.120 Do you kind of feel like that better suits Allen's 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.080 skill set too? Since he can be a guy that 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.160 you know, we talk all the time about Tua and 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.680 how great he is in the anticipatory aspect of the position, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.960 but Allen can really kind of like see it and 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.760 then rip it because he's just got those you know, 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.560 he's got the probably the biggest arm of the entire 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.960 National Football League. Do you feel like it suits his 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.120 skill set a little bit better? 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.600 For sure? Yeah. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.960 Two is obviously an outstanding anticipatory player, and that's a 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.120 credit to him and his pre snap reeds and his 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.880 accuracy and timing and feel. But yeah, that's just not 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.440 Josh Allen, right, Josh Allen's a much more visual player 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.440 than Tua. And then of course you can lean into 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.800 offscript stuff with Josh, and because he does have the 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.760 physical upside that he does with arm talent, it's kind 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.520 of just a little bit less required of him to 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.640 be as anticipatory he could play a little bit more, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.039 you know, just instinctively, And I think that obviously works 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.359 for Josh, just like the way that Tua plays works 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.680 for him. But I do think some of the simplification 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.440 of the offense certainly allows Josh to play more free. Right, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.040 I don't think you want a physical, physically talented guy 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.240 like Josh thinking all that much. Just go play and 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.279 even you could see, you know, Josh can certainly have 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.760 his moments of high energy and things. Can can you know, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.320 teeter on reckless at times. It's certainly been a good 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.120 year for that not being the case. But you can 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:50.120 understand some of the thought process for Ken Dorsey and 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.120 his defense to say, hey, let's just make this more 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.560 about just read it, you know, read out these progressions and. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.080 Do what you're supposed to do with the ball. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.760 But at the same time, I think that kind of 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.000 took away from what makes Josh Allen's better. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.000 You must be enjoying the fact that he just threw 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.080 his first pick of the entire season and broke the 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.120 Bills franchise record for most attempts between interceptions. After that 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.200 was like the one knock people had in this guy, right, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.440 he threw too many picks. But you go back over 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.800 all the great quarterbacks that have gaudy numbers, they have 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.400 high pick numbers as well because they can just keep 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.360 going after a defense and sometimes it gets it goes 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.800 the other direction. But it would seem to me that 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.720 the less site adjustments in the passing offense would lead 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.760 to less I guess confusion and less turnovers. Right, So 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.559 it sounds like that's kind of been a big factor 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:33.960 as well. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.279 Yeah, I think there's always a little luck with interceptions 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.200 as well. And I think last year where Josh through 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:44.360 eighteen interceptions, you know, the correlation between turnover worthy throws 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.400 and percentage of throws that are interceptions was crazy. I 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.360 mean pretty much at almost every interceptible pass that Josh 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.840 Allen threw was intercepted, where he's been a lot more 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.039 fortunate this year, where that's kind of you know, even 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.840 Josh Allen. It was the Bills played the Jets on 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.800 Monday Night Football and Troy Aikman was on the play 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.239 by play, and Troy Aikman said during the production meetings 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.280 for the broadcast, he talked to Josh Allen about, hey, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.000 you haven't thrown a pick this year. He goes, Yeah, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.480 I have, they just hadn't got it, you know what 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.440 I mean, Like, that's that's just that's just how it goes. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.680 And it was three hundred and one attempts in a 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.920 row before Josh throw a pick, and of course it's 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.200 it's to Amari Cooper. He falls at the top of 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.800 his route and it's a little quick pass and the 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.480 DV was able to kind of take leverage and and 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.280 intercept the pass. So it's it's been a nice it's 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.720 been nice not having to go on shows just like 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.120 this and explain to people about interceptions as I think, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.320 you know, you know how this goes. Man, it feels 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.760 like any quarterback unless you win like three Super Bowls 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.480 in five years or like seven overall, it's just this 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.320 entire contest of trying to nitpick and diminish and make 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.400 it like they're not that good. And that's been the 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.640 thing with Josh Allen and that Look, I know, we 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.800 all get any You could apply that to any quarterback 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.119 and and everyone will find their you know, their holes 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.600 to poke, because nobody wants anybody's quarterback to be good 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.320 beside themselves, right, So you know how this goes. It's 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.640 like a contest but yeah, the interceptions in turnovers have 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.080 been good. The Bills have only turned the ball over 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.280 three times all season long. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.200 Yeah, I think that Dolphins fans know that as well 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.920 as anybody does. Joe with the quarterback nitpicking. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.280 And I knew what I was saying that I knew 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:12.800 what I was doing. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.600 I knew that you knew, But I just it's funny 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.720 because like you get these varied box scores to tell 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.560 different stories, but at the end of the day, these 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.680 guys are the same players for the most part, and 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.600 they have their ups and downs in this position that 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.680 does come with some ebbs and flows, and so I 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.760 think that it's important to always remember what guys you know, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.240 have what skills. And you can see which quarterbacks move 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.280 the needle, and both the quarterbacks in this game are 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.800 those guys. I have one more question about this game 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.760 on offense for you before we go to the Bills defense. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:37.000 Here. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.600 You know, Stefan Diggs exits stage left this offseason. The 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.720 Bills receiving corps going into the year is probably the 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.400 big question mark, and everyone's wondering can they find that 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.160 same level of efficiency in the passing game. Well, it 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.560 kind of sounds like they have, and maybe the lack 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.680 of you know, different page and the being on different pages, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.600 I should say for the site adjustment level offense, maybe 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.760 that Diggs's lack of involvement that way is a part 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.959 of that. But I'm curious what you think has happened. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.880 Was it auditioned by subtraction or has it just been 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.240 they found other weapons? Like why is it still working? 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.280 Sands one of the best receivers of the last five years. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:11.319 That's a good question. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.920 And one thing that I've made a point of not 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.000 doing is I'm not going to sit and speak badly 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.120 about Stefan Diggs. He gave the Buffalo Bills the greatest 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.080 four year stretch of receiving production they've ever seen, right, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.920 and that includes some great players along the years like 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.559 an Andre Reid or James Lofton or Eric Moles, Stevie Johnson. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.480 There's been a lot of good receivers and none of 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.440 them have done what Digs did across four seasons. I 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.360 will say, though, one of the fascinating layers for me 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.240 in this team, the Bills team this year was how 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:47.920 does Josh Allen execute and function absent of being mindful 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.640 of Stefan Diggs and you know, you got a funnel 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.920 one hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty targets a 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.280 year towards him. And does Josh Allen play differently? Does 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.920 he read progressions? Are his eyes in different places without 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.280 that burden? Right? I use that word kind of loosely, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.480 but I think it's more than that. I think it's 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.800 also the Gabe Davis factor. And I think Gabe Davis 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.840 the Bills tried, I felt for like two years to 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.040 validate this guy as a legitimate number two wide receiver 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.800 in the NFL, and I just don't think that's him. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.920 I think he's too limited of a player for him 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.560 to be a prioritize guy, to really prioritize within the 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.360 regular structure of your offense. So I think it's just 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.000 two things in terms of Okay, Diggs is great, but 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.480 he also commands a lot of attention from the quarterback, right, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.720 I know he commands attention from the defense, but from 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.800 the quarterback. But then also this Davis factor of you know, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.720 a really limited player that ever since that thirteen seconds 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.839 lost to Kansas City where he scored four touchdowns, it's 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.520 been like, oh yeah, he's a number two well, I 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.800 don't really think so. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.839 So those two things being lifted, I think is. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.320 Almost given Josh just the freedom to play, just just 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.640 go to the right place with the ball. And the 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.600 Bills now have this established top four of of pass 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.240 catchers in Keon Coleman, a rookie who's playing extremely well, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.240 Kalula Shakira is like an ever efficient slot player, dal 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.400 Kin Kaid receiving talent at tight end, and now the 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.920 addition to Mary Cooper, not to mention James Cook and 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.720 Dawson Knox and Curtis Samuel. Right, there's a lot of 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.959 depth to what this team can do, and I think 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.520 the fact that there's not Hey, this guy has to 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.000 get his I think it's unlocked a lot of freedom 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.520 for Josh Allen to execute and make good decisions. And 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.800 obviously the production and efficiency's been outstanding. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.760 My guest today Jill Marino, locked on Bill's podcast. We're 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.439 going to take a quick break right here, come back 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.000 on the other side and talk about the Bills defense 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.840 against Tua and the Dolphins offense on the Draft Time podcast. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.560 Your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.480 Picking me back up here with my guest today, Jill 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.679 Marino locked on Bill's podcast, providing great information for us 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.000 ahead of Dolphins and Bill's Sunday from the Ralph. I 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.600 don't know if it's no new era stadium now right. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.400 No, you got a lot of street cred right there. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.440 If Bill's Mafia listens to this and you called it 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.280 the Ralph, that's going to go a long way and 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:00.480 then liking you well done. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.400 I mean, I grew up with it being the Ralph, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.120 so Orchard Park, all those other names compared to what 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.079 it actually is. But it's a new note. What is it? 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:07.839 Hi Mark Stadium? 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:08.840 Right, Hi Mark Stadium? 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:09.199 There we go. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:10.760 They make good money for us to say that. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.280 Yeah, might have to cut that out. But I want 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.200 to talk about this matchup on the other side because 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.480 and you know, we were talking about this and our 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.400 content meetings here, like why it does it not matter 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.440 who the Bills have defensively and they just continue to produce. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.280 It seems like because you lose so much personnel in particular, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.520 like guys that were stalwarts for a decade and you 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.520 know who they are, hide poor your white you know, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.800 Milanos down, but they just keep on producing. What would 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.240 you say is about this defense that allows them to 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:38.520 do that. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.480 I think they just have a good scheme and there's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.120 nothing super complicated about it. It's just a very disciplined 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.800 operation and it puts a lot of stress on offenses 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.440 to execute play after play after play after play if 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.240 you're going to score. The Bills really don't give up 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.640 explosive plays, and because of that, they're going to dare 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.800 you to say, hey, if you can execute ten to eleven, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.960 twelve plays in a row and not make a mistake, okay, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.520 you can have a chance to score. But the Bills 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.839 are reliant on two things. Taking away explosive plays in 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.199 the passing game with how they have their covered shelves, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.640 but then they also want to get negative plays with 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.160 kind of an up the field style with their defensive front, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.319 and they just they bank on at some point, you're 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.160 gonna get behind the sticks or you're gonna have a 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.559 negative play a penalty, and if it gets to second 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.440 and fifteen or third and eleven, and more times than not, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.560 the Bills kind of find themselves in that spot so 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.679 we can get off the field. That's kind of the mindset, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.600 and that's allowed them to be interchangeable with a lot 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.240 of personnel throughout the years, and they still have talented players, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.880 Like I think that's definitely part of the mix. But 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.959 there's been a lot of intentionality with developing players. I mean, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.720 the Bills did lose a lot of good stalwarts in 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.200 a ploy or a high to Tredevious White. They have 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.080 not had Matt Malano this year, but they've had players 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.199 that they've been developing for a number of years to 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.040 like step into those opportunities and they've been ready for 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.560 those moments. So I think it's a sound scheme, but 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.319 also player development, and that's I mean, that's Sean mcdermot's 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:07.880 bread and butter, right he's the head coach of the 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.719 Buffalo Bills because of the defense that he ran with 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.200 the Carolina Panthers, and so it's been it's been good 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.440 to see that be tried and true through a lot 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.080 of different personnel and a lot of different coaches around 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.160 him to maintain that as a as a core piece 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.280 of what makes the Bills a good football team. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.120 And in that process, like you mentioned development, there's some 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.840 players I think maybe Dolphins fans aren't super privy to 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.040 in terms of how good they've been. Like a Christian Benford, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.760 for instance, comes to mind as a guy that in 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.760 the same year you took a cornerback in the first round, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.640 he winds up being the guy from that class that 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.920 makes a bigger impact. Give us a couple of guys 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.720 and maybe we haven't heard of as Dolphins fans. We 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.000 like at Oliver, We know about Dake one Jones, you 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.240 know about Greg Russau. Who are some guys in that 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.200 defense that maybe we haven't talked about A whole bunch 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.600 that are making a big impact right now. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.040 Yeah, you mentioned the most important one, Christian Benford, who's 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.520 really just developed into an outstanding corner. He takes away 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.600 the football, he tackles extremely well, and he's just very 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.240 technically sound. As a six round pick from Villanova beating 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.040 out as a rookie the first rounder kyrielm out of Florida, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.640 Everyone's like, what is this? And it's not that kyri 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.920 Eland hasn't played well. He has played well when he's 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.560 had chances. Benford's better and he's been really outstanding, as 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.440 you know, as an up and coming player that I 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.600 think is probably playing, you know, as higher level at 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.280 the position as you. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.720 Can find across the league. This year. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.800 Terrell Bernard. That linebacker is another big one. The Bills 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.280 only have two team captains, Josh Allen and Terrell Bernard, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.480 and we'll see about his availability for Sunday. He missed 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.880 last week with an ankle. But he is like an 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.120 impact playmaker, makes a lot of plays and coverage. I 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.960 think that's really where he's outstanding. He can get downhill 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.000 and shoot gaps and make tackles, has a lot of range, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.400 but his feel for zone defense and what's happening behind 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.440 him to be able to read the backfield and just 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.120 navigate and work into throwing lanes. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.080 He just does that at such a high level. He's outstanding. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:54.600 And then I think Taylor Rapp is kind of the 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.360 unsung hero of this defense, one of the guys that 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.760 is stepping in for the tandem of you're in hide. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.120 You know, just there's a communication piece to playing defense 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.640 at a high level, and rap is that guy in 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.360 the in the back end that's been able to kind 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.680 of step in and provide that leadership and you know, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.320 make some physical tackles that have taken points off the board. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.480 But just everyone being lined up and and being on 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.440 the same page is such an important part of defense, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.680 and I think Taylor Rap has been an unsung hero 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.320 in that capacity for the Bills. Epiness is playing well 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:24.760 up front. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:25.360 You know. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.080 It's it's not like I'm not sitting here talking about 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.400 Nick Bosa and TJ. Watt and Fred Warner and Patrick 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.520 certain right, that's not this, But it's a lot of 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.080 guys that fit the system, that play well together, that communicate, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.800 and you know they're not without flaw, but they've really 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.320 kind of come together and it feels like they're kind 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.160 of hitting their stride. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:43.600 Yeah. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.400 I love the answer because I feel like so many 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.080 times that when you get discussions and social discourse, it's like, well, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.960 what does it say on paper? And that's how that's 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.560 just how it goes. But there's a lot more of 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.280 football teams what it looks like on paper, and the 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.040 Bills certainly have figured that out in a big way 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.080 with their continuity in the both the coaching staff and 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.920 at the quarterback position offensive and defensively. There a couple 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.600 more questions for you here, Joe. I assume you've seen 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.720 the Dolphins and Cardinals taper at least some parts of 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.760 it at this point. You know, the offense in a 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.800 lot of ways picked it back up when it was 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.679 pre prior to Toa's injury. I'm curious to get the 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.800 opponent's perspective on how this offense challenges a Buffalo Bills 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.760 defense and where it makes you worry the. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.240 Most, Tyreek killing Jalen Woll Come on, man, nobody wants 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:24.200 to deal with those guys. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.200 You know, even it doesn't matter. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.440 Just you can be right on defense with your alignment 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.040 and your technique, but you give those guys an inch 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.000 and they can create an explosive play. And so those 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.000 guys certainly present a lot of challenges. But I think 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.160 this Miami rushing offense might be as good as I've 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.159 seen it in a long time. And I think it's 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.399 it's the combination of what they can do running the 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.200