1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast, Miss 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Shedlock with US registered investment advisor. Of course, he specializes 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: in helping individuals seeking strong performance with low volatility, and 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: here he is on Coast to Coast. He's one of 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: our regular news guests, and it's good to have you 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: for a couple hours, Miss Hey. A pleasure to be 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: back on. George. Has it really been that long since 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: the last recession? My? Oh, my, December two thousand and seven. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Here we are, he's nineteen long. We come a long way. Sure. 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Have things seem robust right now, aren't they? They? Do? 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: You know? The question on the back of my hand, though, 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: is you know how long can this recovery? Laugh? Not? 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Everything seems robust. Jobs sort of seeing robust. But the 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: last five reports we've had two bad ones, two good ones, 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and maybe one in the medal there, so we're starting 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: to see some increased volatility. Home sales has not been good. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: The auto reports have been confusing to me George too, 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: because I look at my gosh, how were they selling 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: all these cars? Finally a report came up out last 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: week that explains it. Inventories are stacking up on dealers. 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: And if you know how car sales work, a car 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: sale is reported or the deal or excuse me, the 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: car manufacturers report a sale when they ship that car 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: to the dealer, even if it's still sitting there on 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: the lot. They're stacking up more on the way. Inventories 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: have been rising. Manufacturing inventories origin all time high, just 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: as the global economy is slowing. So there's a lot 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: of cross currency here, George, Ye, there sure is. And 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: of course, you know, when the automobile industry gets sick, 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: the country really gets a call too. It does. And 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the things, George, that has kept 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: the auto industry going longer than I actually thought that 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: it would is um boomers that you know, are are retiring. 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: The stock market portfolio looks really good, they say, let's 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: go out and buy that one last car. So and 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: that's been going on for a while. So people are retiring, 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Boomers are getting older. Those of that are in good 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: shape have money. Those that are in bad shape just 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: weren't going to buy that new car in the first place. Bish, 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: I have a palm reader on yesterday and he's pretty good. 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: And he talked about the economy and he protects twenty 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: twenty is going to be a booming economic year for us. Wow, 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: how about I don't think so, you know, unless we 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: have a huge recession right now that somehow turns around 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: at the end of next year. The I look at UMU. 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: The New York Fed has a recession model and it 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: says the odd recession or about thirty three percent. I 49 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: went back and looked at that, and it's funny. This 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: model depends on a yield curve in version. They look 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: at the interest rate on the three year bond and 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: it's actually higher than on the ten year yield. Doesn't 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: make much sense normally, but this is the kind of 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: thing that happens at recessions. Now it's not thirty three 55 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: percent that we're in one right now. It's just thirty 56 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: three percent that we're in one sometime in the next year. Oh. 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I was discussing this with a friend just yesterday. He goes, 58 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: thirty percent is not all that high, and I said, well, 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: here's look at it this way. Every time in the 60 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: last nine recessions, every time we've hit thirty three percent, 61 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: we've gone on to have one so, and that's what 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm expecting this time too, Georgia. So the so called 63 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: middle class, what's happening to the mission? They getting eroded away? 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, George, I looked at some stats. I've 65 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: got some really tremendous charts on this. I've just not 66 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: posted them on my website yet, um misstalk dot com. 67 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: But uh, the bottom fifty percent? What what percentage of 68 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the wealth of the country do you think the bottom 69 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: fifty percent has? You know, I don't want to put 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: you on the spot, so I'll give you the answer. 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: One percent. Let me guess one percent. Good guess yours. 72 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: The top one percent has almost a third, thirty one 73 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: percent actually, and the top ten percent has seventy percent. 74 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: So uh, the the right around that middle point, if 75 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: you're just underneath it, you likely don't have anything. So uh, that's, 76 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, kind of where we're heading. And people want 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: to do all kinds of things about it, but they 78 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: do it without looking at why this is happening and 79 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: where the problem really is. What about the generation? Why, folks, 80 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with those youngsters as they get 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: a little more the millennials? Why the UM they're loaded down, George, 82 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: with tons of student debt. They they're angry. Uh, there 83 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: was a pull out. There, there was a survey. You know, 84 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: who do you who do you think is responsible? They 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: blame the boomers, and you know what, George, I don't 86 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: blame them for blaming the boomers. The Uh, the Fed 87 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: bailed out the boomers bailed out the banks. The young 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: kids are still saddled with with student loans. Uh. Real 89 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: wages have not kept up with home prices. They can't 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: afford a home even if they wanted one. Their own 91 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: prices have just skyrocketed since about two thousand and eleven. 92 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Wages are going up about two or three percent a year. 93 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, when home prices are rising six and 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: you're gaining and you're getting three. Home prices are outstripping 95 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: you three four in some markets, five six seven percent 96 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: a year. You can't afford. How is it? So their 97 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: lifestyle is a lot different. Some of them are living 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: at home because they have to because their job doesn't 99 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: support a house. And some of them are living at 100 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: home because they need to take care of their aging 101 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: boomer parents. Yeah, that's true too. Now two thousand and seven, 102 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when we had that disaster, the 103 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: FED came in and bailed out everything. Can it do 104 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: that again if we have another situation like that. That's 105 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: people keep asking me, you know, what are they gonna do? Well, 106 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: we need to see it first. The Europe is in 107 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot worse shape than we are here. They have 108 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: negative entrant rates over there are already the interest trade 109 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: on the German ten year bond negative zero point three 110 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: to six percent. They give you back less than what 111 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you had. Yeah, that's crazy. Think about this. It's uh. 112 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Negative bonds yields imply that you would rather have ninety 113 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: cents ten years from now than a dollar today. George, 114 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: that's logically impossible. It is crazy. That's exactly the word 115 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: that I wrote down. You know, get this word in crazy, uh, 116 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: the and it it can only happen when central banks 117 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: are manipulating interest rates that much. Close to half the 118 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: world's bonds, government bonds are trading with negative yield. Now. 119 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: It didn't happen in the US, and arguably it's one 120 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: of the things we I wouldn't say that we did right, 121 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: but we did better than Europe. These nigga interest rates 122 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: punished the savers more so than zero percent interest rates. 123 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: The European banks are in horrendous shape. Deutsche Bank is 124 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: about ready to go under. The Italian banking system surely 125 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: is insolvent. Look at what the FED did. In contrast, 126 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: they're paying interest on access reserves. They patted the balance sheet, 127 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: they created trillions of dollars of excess reserves. They were 128 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: giving banks free money. The ECB, with negative interest rates 129 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: were charging banks. They got insolvent banks, and they're charging 130 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: them interest to hold funds that the ECB forced them 131 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: to hold through their quantitative easing strategy. Over there, George, 132 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't agree with the bailout here in the US. 133 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm quite certain you don't either, but not to that extent. 134 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: What they did in Europe was even worse. Bish, I 135 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: did something I never thought I would ever do. I 136 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: needed a sponge, and I went online and I bought it. Oh, 137 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and I got to tell you, most of the time, 138 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: normally I would have gone to the grocery store in 139 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the household section and picked up a sponge and come 140 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: home that night with it. And I don't know why 141 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I did this. I mean, I've ordered stuff online before, 142 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: but not a sponge. What's what's happening here? Well, it's 143 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: it's what's happening is it's easy, it's convenient. Do you 144 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: really want to drive to the store. Just look back 145 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: three years ago and I don't need the sponge today. 146 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: I could use it a couple of days from now. No, 147 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: but I think three years ago, when you know, they 148 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: would have charged you, you know, three dollars or something 149 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: to have that thing delivered. And now you say, you know, 150 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: I really don't want to pay three bucks or the 151 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: other thing you might have done instead of ordering one 152 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: sponge is say, well, let me get this out bucket list, 153 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna add you know, anything else I need 154 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: over the next week and just get all at once 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: and pay one shipping charge exactly. Now it's just free. 156 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: I routinely think, you know, I'll say, oh I need this, 157 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I did it just the other day. We need a 158 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: dog food, you know, and we want to run out 159 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: to the store and get it. What happened is, you know, 160 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: we went on vacation. We went to Door County. We 161 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: had someone take care of our dog. We gave him 162 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: our dog food. They brought the dog back, but not 163 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: the dog foods. We need a dog food. Didn't have 164 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: to run out to the store. You get these things 165 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: in by five o'clock and you've you've got your dog food. 166 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, the next afternoon, guarantee. It's it's really quite amazing. 167 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: It's convenient. You don't have to even think anymore. So 168 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: as soon as you need an item, you don't wait 169 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: and say, well, I'm gonna get all these things at once, 170 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: you just go get it. You got a sponge, perfect example. 171 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what's happening to bricks and mortar? You know, 172 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: more and more big stores are closing, Malls are changing. 173 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean the face of a mall now in your 174 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: suburban area is dramatically changing. Yeah, and millennials don't even 175 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: like malls except as a place to just to go, yeah, 176 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: and not really buy anything. If the it's it's it's 177 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: more of a social mechanism than you know, anything else. 178 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like how you know, we used to 179 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: go Our generation used to go to the n W 180 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: root beer stand. Let's say, you know, and have a 181 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: root bear and and you know, hope to catch some 182 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: friends there and and talk. You know, they do it 183 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: at the mall, but they don't buy anything. So the 184 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: malls are in trouble. Now you can look at this 185 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: two different ways. I think it's a good thing. It's 186 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: especially for those unfixed income you know who who uh 187 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: get minuscule bumps and Social Security or those retiring it 188 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of assets, and we just 189 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: discussed fifty percent of the people don't. So, uh. The 190 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Amazon is the god send. They don't have to drive, 191 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: they don't need a car. They can just order these 192 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: things online. Well, now they're gonna bring it to you 193 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: with a drone. They're gonna bring it to you with 194 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a drone. Right, pizzas by drone. I didn't think I 195 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: would see this in the wake this fast, you know. 196 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I figured there would be a lot of fears about 197 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, bomb delivery or something with drones. Nope, the 198 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: lots of tests going on in the US, Australia, UK 199 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: for various deliveries. Not you're not gonna see this, say 200 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago on a you know, the twentieth floor of 201 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: an apartment building that just doesn't work. But no, geographically 202 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: speaking for much of the nation, you know, it certainly 203 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: does work. Unbelievable, isn't it. It really is. This is 204 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: all part of productivity. Enhancement and productivity is a good thing. 205 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: So when you hear economists at the FAT and you know, 206 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: talking about this, and you know they're desperate to see inflation, George, 207 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: the amazing thing is here, there's plenty of inflation. It's 208 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: just not where they're counting it. They don't count home prices, 209 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: is amazingly enough, as part of inflation. They call that 210 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: an asset. So they strike that home prices skyrocketing, not 211 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: even in their inflation model. If they just simply added 212 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: home prices to their inflation model, they would find plenty 213 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: of inflation. The stock market, negative interest rate, yielding bonds, 214 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: all of these things are our sign of an economy 215 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: that is overly flush with cash. Oh. Absolutely, they don't 216 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: know how to get away from it. Listen to more 217 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, 218 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: and go to Coast acostam dot com for more