WEBVTT - #796 Packers Unscripted: Taking down Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkoitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from our studios at Lambellfield to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>another Green Bay Packers victory with backup quarterback Malik Willis West.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was thirty to fourteen, a very convincing victory

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<v Speaker 1>on the road at Tennessee. Packers get to two and one,

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<v Speaker 1>Titans drop to zero to three. A lot to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here, whether you're talking about what Malik Willis did

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side, what the Packers did on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side. So I will let you decide where you

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we have to start with all due

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<v Speaker 2>respect to the defense and all due respect to the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers and everything they did offensively the floor, going to

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<v Speaker 2>his podium and this postgame news conference and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>just how inconceivable it is what Malik Willis has been

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<v Speaker 2>able to do on the short timeline with which he's

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<v Speaker 2>had to work in the fact that he has not

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<v Speaker 2>played a lot of NFL football up until this point,

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<v Speaker 2>and has been able to play winning football at every turn,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's him using his legs, it's whether he's using

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<v Speaker 2>his arms, or whether it's just him managing the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and the motions and everything that functions on time. This

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<v Speaker 2>is unlike anything I've seen. And for as much as

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<v Speaker 2>we will celebrate in Harold, you know, like what Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Flynn did coming back in twenty thirteen and helping the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers with the playoff push. Flynn had been in the

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<v Speaker 2>offense before, he'd worked with Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements.

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<v Speaker 1>For four years.

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<v Speaker 2>For four years. Malik Willis showed up with a bag

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, all right, let's play some quarterback and

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<v Speaker 2>you go, Milike Willis what We'll see what happens with

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<v Speaker 2>the Vikings game, and whether or not Jordan Love plays.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that later this week. Let's say Love does.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say Malik Willis, it's a good Lord Willing doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>see the field again this year. Because Jordan Love's so

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<v Speaker 2>healthy and play at such an incredible level, we never

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk about it again unless they want to

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<v Speaker 2>use him in some certain types of packages. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>gave up a seventh round pick for this guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>they got two wins out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the biggest return of investment I can

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<v Speaker 2>even think of when you're talking about trades that happen

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I don't like to and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep this brief because I don't like to disparage other

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<v Speaker 1>NFL franchises by any means. This is a tough business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most competitive business there is professional sports. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've witnessed in all my time doing

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<v Speaker 1>this an egg on the face as badly as what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Tennessee. There where the quarterback that they had discarded,

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<v Speaker 1>that they had relegated to number three. They were going

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<v Speaker 1>to cut him, maybe bring him back on the PRAC squad,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know that for sure, and they dumped

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<v Speaker 1>him for a seventh round pick. And he walked back

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<v Speaker 1>in there less than a month later, into that same

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<v Speaker 1>building and beat that team and badly outplayed the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that they have pinned their hopes to for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>That's as embarrassing as it gets in this league. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I feel bad for Titans fans to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain extent, although, as I said, an insider inbox.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even show up to support their team. On Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Packers fans took over that place, took over Nissan Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville. Hats off to the Green Bay fans for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Malik Willis two starts, his passer rating is over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty. The offense has rushed for more

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<v Speaker 1>than four hundred and fifty yards or right around four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty in the two games that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>the starting quarterback. He got in on the rushing act

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<v Speaker 1>in this last one, not only with some scrambles, the

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<v Speaker 1>improvised stuff when the play breaks down in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>but with some design runs a well the zone read keepers.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were working early seventy three rushing yards and a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown rushing for Malik Willis. All of that in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half as the Packers build a twenty twenty to

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<v Speaker 1>seven lead in this game. And quite frankly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Titans. I mean, once Jayi Alexander got

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<v Speaker 1>the pick six to make it seventeen to seven, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans. We never made it a one score game again.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a multi score game the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you want to see. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Nageler talked about it after the game in his podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people discuss it. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>play a four quarter football game, you want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>your pedal to the floor. And I felt like Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay did that, especially the fact that seven of those

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<v Speaker 2>eight sacks came in the second half, most of them

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<v Speaker 2>came in the fourth quarter. The Packers were able to

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<v Speaker 2>push the Titans to the brink and then did exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to see them do a as the

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<v Speaker 2>team that they're played better then, and they overall looked

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<v Speaker 2>superior to and just quickly to mention about the Malik

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<v Speaker 2>Willis rushing aspect of this thing a week ago, they

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<v Speaker 2>kept it very manageable for him, especially early on. He

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<v Speaker 2>had to make some throws in the second half when

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<v Speaker 2>the running games started to slow a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was Josh Jacobs, it was Jaden Reid in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>With how much the Tennessee Titans were buckling down against

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to stop Jacobs, things became open for the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside. And what I loved about this game,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the hallmark of a good football team,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of who your quarterback, is you play one way

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<v Speaker 2>one week, can you play differently than next? The green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers absolutely threw the change up that they needed

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<v Speaker 2>to throw against the Tennessee Titans. And what was that

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<v Speaker 2>change up? Explosive plays two thirty yard completions on the

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<v Speaker 2>opening series that ends up generating a touchdown. They finished

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<v Speaker 2>that drive, they got the seven points, and from there

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay was able to have enough of those ruptures

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<v Speaker 2>that even though they weren't running the ball great in

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<v Speaker 2>the first half, they were able to counter with big

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<v Speaker 2>explosive plays on the other side of it, several of

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<v Speaker 2>which came on third and long situations, situations you do

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<v Speaker 2>not anticipate converting on third and fourteen, on third and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>The Green Bay Packers efficiency in this game on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the ball. We'll talk more about the defense

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<v Speaker 2>here momentarily, but for them to play clean football back

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<v Speaker 2>to back weeks, no turnovers offensively with a backup quarterback Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>it don't happen like that in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. Yeah, Malik Willis's ability to be efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>to be explosive, but also protect the ball all at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time has been a It's been a remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>combination for somebody who just got to Green Bay roughly

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<v Speaker 1>a month ago. I want to talk about those third

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<v Speaker 1>and longs and this will help us transition also to

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side, because as I've spent a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days processing this game and with some of the coverage

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<v Speaker 1>and the film review and different things that I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I appreciated at the time, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we're writing all our postgame stuff on the bus on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane coming back all that how pivotal the drive

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first half was for multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are up seventeen to seven, they get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>with six h two on the clock yep, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are multiple times during that drive where the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>in serious danger of giving the ball back to the Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Titans down by ten points and a chance

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<v Speaker 1>for the Titans to double up with the possession at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the first half, and then getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball coming out to start the third quarter because they

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<v Speaker 1>had deferred on the opening coin toss. Packers had three

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<v Speaker 1>penalty three offensive penalties on that drive, twenty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>in penalties, but in overcoming those penalties, Malik Willis converts

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<v Speaker 1>the third and fourteen on the deep en route to

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo Dobs, then third and eighteen because of penalties, and

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<v Speaker 1>he hits Christian Watson, who then is able to slip

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<v Speaker 1>down the steine because Lagerius sneaed fell down as Watson

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<v Speaker 1>is cutting across, and that third and eighteen turns into

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty seven yard gain. The Packers end up now

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to finish that drive. They end up

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<v Speaker 1>kicking a field goal, but the Packers ended up killing

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<v Speaker 1>the entire six zh two. At the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first half, they get the three points and they go

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty to seven. So the Titans didn't get it back,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the chance to double up. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm emphasizing this drive so much is because then what

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<v Speaker 1>happens at the start of the second half. The Titans

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<v Speaker 1>come out, They get I believe, one first down. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the ball at their own thirty seven yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't even one first down at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>but they decided to go for it on fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>one inside their own forty yard line. Down by thirteen points.

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<v Speaker 1>They they had initially sent out the punter, the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>what was there of a Tennessee crowd was booing. They

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<v Speaker 1>called timeout. They decided to go forward on fourth and one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't realize this at the time, but Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>had only run eighteen offensive plays in the entire first half.

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<v Speaker 1>They had ten yard ten play drive for a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>a one play drive that was Alexander's pick six, and

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<v Speaker 1>then back to back punts in which the drives were

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<v Speaker 1>only four plays and three plays. Eighteen snaps in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half is all they had. There is no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind that the Packers killing the last six

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the first half and Tennessee coming out not

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<v Speaker 1>only because they were down thirteen, but they'd only run

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen plays. They'd only had the ball four times. That

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<v Speaker 1>strongly influenced a highly risky decision to go forward on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and one in their own territory. They fail on

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth and one as Kway Walker, Isaiah McDuffie, jy

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<v Speaker 1>R Alexander combined to take away you know, a run

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<v Speaker 1>pass option thing they were trying to run with Will Levis.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers hit the screen pass to Emmanuel Wilson for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty seven to seven that sequence. End of first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning of second half just completely turned this game on

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<v Speaker 1>its head. Yeah, and it's a credit to both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball for the Packers with the offense overcame

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<v Speaker 1>with the penalties to kill six minutes and get a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, and then the defense to get the stop

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<v Speaker 1>on the fourth and one. A very questionable decision to

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<v Speaker 1>go for it there when it's so early in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter. Was that was a pivotal sequence in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers were in command the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Callahan, first time first year head coach, made two

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<v Speaker 2>pivotal errors. I felt like at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>first the second half, you can't do anything about the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers and the drive they went on at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the first half, you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Have stopped them, You could have the defense's got the

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<v Speaker 3>oupards day to come back, and actually third and eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>you have a chance to get the ball back at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the first half and possibly the the

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<v Speaker 3>double up thing, and with having deferred and their defense

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<v Speaker 3>completely blew that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Did so, and then the second half you go back,

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<v Speaker 2>you end up coming out right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact is is that I felt like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>send your punting team out there first, that's the move.

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<v Speaker 2>You already told your offense that you think you should

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<v Speaker 2>punt there. Now you're killing a timeout where you're down

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen points and you're having to use now you're punting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also from the standpoint, the other thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was almost inexcusable. They didn't run the ball at

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<v Speaker 2>all on that series out in to start the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Right they were down thirteen points, and they were acting

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<v Speaker 2>like they were down twenty one points. They were still

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<v Speaker 2>in a position, as it even showed Mike when they

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<v Speaker 2>finally did get back in the end zone there, even

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<v Speaker 2>at that point I think it was twenty seven to fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still in a manageable situation in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the third quarter. And then slowly the yarn began to unravel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, they'd run eighteen plays in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>You're barely out of whatever, whether you want to call

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<v Speaker 1>it a fifteen play script or your first fifteen thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>or how the game plan is designed. You're barely out

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<v Speaker 1>of those initial thoughts of various situations, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan. It just felt it felt like they

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<v Speaker 1>got they got completely rattled by the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>were walking out at the start of the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>not only down by thirteen points, but feeling like they

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't they hadn't had the ball on offense really since

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<v Speaker 1>the op since their opening possession of the game when

0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.000
<v Speaker 1>they did move it and they got a touchdown, and

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<v Speaker 1>them trying to force the issue just completely backfired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with a young quarterback like that who's already

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<v Speaker 2>been turnover prone, when you're playing from behind, that some

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<v Speaker 2>bad things can happen. And in this case, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the fact that DeVante Wyatt had two

0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.840
<v Speaker 2>second half sacks, Presco Smith had sacks on back to

0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.520
<v Speaker 2>back series to end the game. You had kay Walker again,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were talking about, step up and make a

0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.440
<v Speaker 2>huge play stopping Will Levis to along with Isaiah McDuffie.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a pivotal position there for the Packers to

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball at the thirty seven yard line, it

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<v Speaker 2>won't count towards those takeaway numbers we keep referencing, But

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers got the ball at their thirty seven and

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<v Speaker 2>they had a thirty yard screens to score a touchdown. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now maybe fourth maybe it will be oh yeah, go ahead, No, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead? No, Emmanuel Wilson, maybe he goes, maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>still scores on like sixty yard touchdown there. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know once he gets in the open field. But the

0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.400
<v Speaker 2>fact is you're dealing with the short field. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that have really been hurting the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>through these first two games, the first eight quarters, was

0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they weren't able to finish those drives.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this game they did and with a few

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<v Speaker 2>small exceptions, one of which you know, being the penalty situation,

0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.920
<v Speaker 2>green Bay played a pretty clean football game, buying large

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<v Speaker 2>in all three phases.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we'll get back to the penalties in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. You said it though, a fourth down, a

0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.440
<v Speaker 1>fourth down stop, especially in that area of the field,

0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that's as good as a turnover. That's that functions as

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<v Speaker 1>a takeaway, even though statistically it's not a fumble or interception.

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<v Speaker 1>But you talk about forcing the issue. As the second

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<v Speaker 1>half war on, Jeff Hafley started dialing it up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he you know, will Levis was having trouble

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<v Speaker 1>making plays. He wasn't really using his legs and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to scramble and do things, which is what I thought

0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.280
<v Speaker 1>he would do. Uh, quite a bit going into this game.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't really do that. He was trying to sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the pocket and make throws and make plays, and

0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the Packers pass rush just kept caving in that Titans

0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.440
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, sometimes sending a fifth guy, sometimes sending six guys,

0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes just the straight four man rush. With the

0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.280
<v Speaker 1>stunts and things they were running, Packers end up racking

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>up eight sacks. Statistically, it ends up as three takeaways

0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.480
<v Speaker 1>with Alexander's pick six, Anigbari with the strip sack that

0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Luke's Faness recovers, and then late in the game, Xavier McKinney.

0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.920
<v Speaker 1>What more can we say about that guy? Three games

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<v Speaker 1>as a Green Bay Packer, three interceptions. The defense, The

0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 1>defense really came to play. Unfortunately, you know that offside

0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on Preston Smith allowed the Titans on the first drive

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<v Speaker 1>to m scoring a touchdown when the Packers were going

0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to hold him to a field goal where Shuan Gary

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten a sack on third down there ended up

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<v Speaker 1>not counting. But that was one of the only mistakes

0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the Packers defense made in this entire game, and it

0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.280
<v Speaker 1>was just right in the very beginning. As the game

0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:15.360
<v Speaker 1>wore on, the Packers defense really found its legs, found

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<v Speaker 1>its footing, and you know, they made life miserable for

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<v Speaker 1>a young quarterback who has had a pretty miserable first

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>They very much did, and which is what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do again. The most sacks the Packers are having

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<v Speaker 2>a game in almost twenty years, It was January of

0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.320
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five, closing out that season that they

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<v Speaker 2>actually were able to get eight sacks in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you break it down too, I was talking

0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>with Preston Smith in the locker room afterwards, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell how much that bothered him that he

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<v Speaker 2>had that neutral zone in fraction. This is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>is very prideful about what he does and he is

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<v Speaker 2>a very very close friend and mentor to where Sean

0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Garrett he didn't want to take that sack off the

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<v Speaker 2>board shirt them, but then to be able to rally.

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<v Speaker 2>He mentioned this even the two series where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the two touchdown producing series at the

0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Titan had they moved the ball pretty easily for not

0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to be disrespectful, but it was a pretty seamless efficient drive.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing Preston mentioned was the way that this

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<v Speaker 2>group is put together the amount of players that they have,

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<v Speaker 2>the veterans that they have who have played football here,

0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.120
<v Speaker 2>they're not rattled by that. They still feel like on

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<v Speaker 2>the next play, the next series, they're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>a sack, they're gonna get a negative yards play, they're

0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.880
<v Speaker 2>going to get a takeaway. And now nine takeaways through

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<v Speaker 2>the first three games, the most since two thousand and

0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.720
<v Speaker 2>nine that the Packers have had three consecutive games with

0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:36.000
<v Speaker 2>three takeaways each. This is winning football and what you did,

0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 2>even though they still have some issues to answer for

0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.600
<v Speaker 2>with the run game, this will be a huge test

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<v Speaker 2>coming up this upcoming weekend. Yeah, they forced the Tennessee

0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Titans to play one dimensional thirty three rushing yards in

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<v Speaker 2>this game, with Will Levis's twelve yards contributing to that.

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<v Speaker 2>That changes the complexion of everything. And listening to those

0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.840
<v Speaker 2>defensive ends and those defensive linemen talk about this in

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<v Speaker 2>the game afterwards, if they were over the moon about

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.119
<v Speaker 2>what that was like playing in the fourth quarter and

0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.840
<v Speaker 2>just how much fun that was. And to quote Elton

0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Jenkins in one of his you know things, quoting Drake,

0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were on their ass like a back pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>It is there's no better way to put it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact is is that when you're facing a

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<v Speaker 2>young quarterback that hasn't played a lot of football at

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<v Speaker 2>this level, when you can generate that much pressure, you

0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.080
<v Speaker 2>can create that amount of doubt. That's the result.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, What what I sensed is when the Titans had

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<v Speaker 1>that drive in the third quarter where they went right

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.560
<v Speaker 1>down the field they cut it from twenty seven to

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.240
<v Speaker 1>seven to twenty seven to fourteen, Levis was looking kind

0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of comfortable in the pocket. He was making the plays.

0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, Packers were sitting back a little bit, just

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<v Speaker 1>doing straight four man rush kind of stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think after that drive, as you said, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too easy for Tennessee. I think after that drive,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Haffley said, Okay, I don't know how many times

0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be able to sack this guy, but

0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to start. He needed to start dialing it up.

0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He needed to start coming after him to make him uncomfortable,

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to speed him up, change the rhythm. The Packers needed

0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to change something there. And then when those changeups, you know,

0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.679
<v Speaker 1>speeding up Will Levis started to lead to the mistakes

0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and the sacks and all that. Then they just kept

0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.120
<v Speaker 1>after it. They just kept going because the Titans didn't

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>have an answer for it. And I thought, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the way the rest of that second half was called

0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was very much a result of that one touchdown drive

0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 1>by the Titans and just how comfortable Levis looked. And

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, can't let him just look that comfortable

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.200
<v Speaker 1>out there, even if you're not going to sack him,

0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got to do something to disrupt him. And then

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.160
<v Speaker 1>those disruptions ended up being successful. It ended up really

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<v Speaker 1>working in Green Bays faith.

0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So it won them the game, and it's why Matt

0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Lafleur was so excited about the defense in the postgame

0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 2>locker room, in the huddle afterwards. Two things that stood

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 2>out to me though I was thinking about while I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching this game. One, you unfortunately have to read

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<v Speaker 2>everything I write, as it's a part of your job description.

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<v Speaker 2>But Heyshawn Nixon had said last week when I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking with him at his locker, you know, he feels

0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.639
<v Speaker 2>like he's blitzed more this season from the slot than

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 2>he has all of last year. You saw how they

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 2>used Edger and Cooper in this game. I think Edge

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<v Speaker 2>played sixteen snaps and he came down on a blitz

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and he was able to get his first half sack.

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.919
<v Speaker 2>He did the Packers are it's not just okay, well,

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.919
<v Speaker 2>it's Kenny Clark, Preston Smith and ra Shaun Gary. No,

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it is a wave of players that Jeff Hafley threw

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.679
<v Speaker 2>at Levice. And I think when you think about this

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.879
<v Speaker 2>defense and them talking about vision to the football and aggression,

0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not just sending engage eight that worked out really

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.640
<v Speaker 2>good for Cincinnati at the end of the Washington game.

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.520
<v Speaker 2>It's about being strategic about how you blitz guys and occasionally, yeah,

0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to push the gas and send six. The

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Packers got home with that too, yep. But it's about

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the creativity, the quality, not the quantity. And I thought

0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 2>this was a good representation of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you. The one black mark I

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>would say on this team maybe maybe two, one being

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Brayden Narbison did miss another field goal ended up not

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>counting because the Tennessee Titans were penalized on that missed

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>field goal, So the Packers got a fresh set of

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.080
<v Speaker 1>downs and then that's what led to the screen pass

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.679
<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown by Ammanuel Wilson. So still hoping that

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Narvison can smooth things out here. He did come back

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>later in the game and drill the forty seven yard

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.639
<v Speaker 1>er with plenty of room to spare, so that was

0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>good to see. But the penalties are something that the

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.960
<v Speaker 1>penalties are plaguing the Packers a little bit, and plaguing

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit strong of a word the way.

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a story about this on our website Monday night,

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>with Matt Lafuer talking about it in his Monday press conference.

0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>That and comments from players in the locker room on

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Sunday that you had gotten from your interviews that the

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>penalties are just there. Are are preventing the Packers from

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of reaching their from really playing at peak performance.

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.239
<v Speaker 1>They've now been flagged twenty six times and that's not

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>including declined or offsetting penalties twenty six in fractions through

0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>three games. I believe the penalty yards is somewhere close

0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to two hundred. I can't remember the number, maybe it's

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.439
<v Speaker 1>one ninety six or something like that. But they've been

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>flagged for they they've been flagged too much in the

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>first three games. Mattle fulor knows it. He knows that

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they have to clean it up. The players know it.

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 1>It's part of their film review on Monday, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether you're talking about the holdings or the lining

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>up off sides and things like that, it really comes

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.880
<v Speaker 1>down to it really comes down to the details, whether

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>it's the details of your technique or the details of

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.280
<v Speaker 1>how you line up before the snap, those kinds of things.

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely stuff that the Packers can clean up and

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that they can fix, but they need to do so

0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're staring at a pretty big early season game

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>against the NFC North leading and three and oo Minnesota

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Vikings coming up, and you don't want to be walking

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>out a lambeau Field with another eight to ten penalties

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on your register because it's going to be awfully tough

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to beat Minnesota if that happens again.

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>And before I dive all into that, I want to

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 2>quickly give a shout out to the Tennessee Titans, who,

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 2>according to Klay Martin and his crew, played the cleanest

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty minutes of offensive and defensive football in the history

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of the National Football League. No penalties on either the

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 2>offense or defense.

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're all They had what two special teams, both

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>on special team, both on and it killed them it

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>was bad. Yeah, the one. The one was a killer because, uh,

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>instead of getting the ball back at at twenty to

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>seven with the missed field goal, they get Packers get

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the screen pass for the touchdown on the fresh set

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of downs and it's twenty seven to seven, and that

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>game was that game was headed a different way.

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Tug in shoot, tug and shoot, hole and shoot, pull

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 2>and shoot. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the poll and shoot.

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I learned one during this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did too. I had I hadn't actually heard

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<v Speaker 1>a referee like say that, like, yeah, crafo, you know

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to explay in a penalty that he called it. He

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.400
<v Speaker 1>called it defensive holding. The poll and shoot where you

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>grab onto a guy and you yank him out of

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the way so that one of your teammates can shoot

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the gap to try to block the field goal. Well,

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>they caught him. They caught him at it, and the

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Packers took advantage.

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of bodies in there too. I'm surprised

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 2>they did. But be that as it made, Mike bring

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>this back to the Green Bay Packers. You brought up

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 2>some excellent points there, one of being that both of

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>those long third down conversions were brought on by penalty. Yeah,

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the holding issues that green Bay was working through, and

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 2>then also the illegal hands of the face Hummer sheet Walker.

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what led to green Bay having to make long

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 2>third down conversions. You can't live in that world. It

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 2>is incredible what Malik Willis did. I mean that passed

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 2>to Romeo Dobbs is about as good as it's going

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.239
<v Speaker 2>to get in the National Football League. And then he

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.120
<v Speaker 2>gave Christian Watson a chance to make a play. Watson

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 2>can make those plays. It was beautiful thing to watch,

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>but you have to clean that stuff up, and I

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>appreciate how people took ownership for it. I mentioned what

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Preston Smith said about, you know, of feeling guilty abou

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>what happened on his neutral zone infraction. You had Elton Jenkins,

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>who I think in a lot of ways is playing

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 2>at a Pro Bowl caliber level again, but got busted

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 2>for two holding penalties and this thing. Zach tom who's

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>probably playing at an all pro level at right tackle,

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 2>had won illegal formation as well. So there are procedural

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 2>penalties that the Packers have to clean up. I've always

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>said this, Michael, you are going to get called for

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>holding this league unless, of course you're the Tennessee Titans

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>in this campaign, but you are going to get called

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>for holding. You are going to have defensive holding and

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>past interference. Those things are going to happen to you.

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Illegal formations, illegal motions, false starts, encroachment, neutral zone infractions.

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>That's where you got to be smart.

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the easy that's the easiest stuff to clean up

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's all the priests, that's all the pre snap stuff,

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's just really a matter of focus and concentration

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and all that. The as you say, the combative stuff.

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy used to use the word combative when it

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>came to the POSTNAT penalties. Those types of penalties, Yes,

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to happen. You want to try to reduce them.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 1>The players know that sometimes they lose control of their technique.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>By the same token, those offensive linemen are out there saying,

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to get our quarterback killed. So if

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they're getting beat and they're gonna grab

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>onto somebody, they do that. I think what somewhat's been

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate is the Packers have been called for offensive holding

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple times on running plays where it isn't about

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>protecting the quarterback and they just aren't executing the way

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they should in those instances. I'm going to take care

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<v Speaker 1>All right, looking back other results in Week three, of course,

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the biggest one you and I were sort of keeping

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>an eye on it, although it got out of hand

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>early Minnesota against the previously two and oh Houston Texans.

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>It ends up a route thirty four to seven in

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>favor of the Vikings. There are two teams in the

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>NFC wes that are three and oh, the Minnesota Vikings

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>in the Seattle Seahawks, and one of those, Minnesota is

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>coming to lambeau Field on Sunday in Week four, just

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>as we all figure the Vikings with the quarterback change,

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the draft pick gets injured, and they turn

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it over to Sam Darnold. They're three and oh and

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the Packers, having lost their starting quarterback in Week one,

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>win two games with a backup, and they are two

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and one, and now they square off in a pretty

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>significant early season matchup here in Green Bay.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it really One thing I really like about

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>the way the schedule did layout is you did have

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 2>a chance to get some of these non conference games

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like the college reference to it. Obviously

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 2>they played an in conference game against the philadelp Eagles,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>but now you're getting up against your division. Both of

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 2>these teams have kind of built some wind and got

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 2>some wind in their sales. I made the line an

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 2>insider inbox. I wrote the line that, you know, I

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>think there's reason for both of these teams to be confident,

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and in a lot of ways, the Minnesota Vikings kind

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of remind me of the twenty nineteen Green Bay Packers

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>in that I personally left them for dead. I thought

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they were the fourth place team in the division. I

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 2>thought there was especially once JJ McCarthy went down, I'm like,

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>what is this team going to be able to accomplish

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>this year? I was very wrong Brian Flores is doing

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>remarkable work with that defense. Kevin O'Connell is one of

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the brightest offensive mines in the game. And then here's

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>the other thing, Mike, And this is why I draw

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the peril of twenty nineteen. The Vikings had to get

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>new personnel, they had to find upgrades, and they've done that,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, bringing in a guy like Aaron Jones. Yeah,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be a big talking point because of

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>his connections to the Packers, But let's take all that away.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Multiple time Man of the Year nominee, a guy that

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>has been a Pro Bowl running back in this league

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>at twenty nine years old, still is finding ways to

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>get better and is off to a great start. That's

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>what they this run game for Minnesota needed after last season. Yeah,

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the answer when Delvin Cook left, it wasn't Alexander Madison.

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't.

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>They had to find a new path. They did that,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and there's countless examples of this with the free agenc

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they've acquired, Sam Darnold being one of them. But the

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Vikings made smart signings and it's helped make up for

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they basically have no draft picks.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. I mean for as much as much

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>as they've struggled to help themselves in a lot of

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>ways in the draft. And of course, the jury's still

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.120
<v Speaker 1>out on JJ McCarthy. You know, he's out for the year,

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think we'll be talking about him plenty in

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the years to come. But you're right, and what Minnesota

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>was able to do in free agency has compensated for

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>not being able to help themselves as much in the

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>draft as they would want to. It's already looking pretty

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>darn interesting. In the NFC North. I know the Bears

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are struggling. They lost to the Indianapolis Colts on the road.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>They're one and two. But the Detroit Lions went out

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to Arizona beat the Cars twenty to thirteen. So you

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>have the Vikings at three and oh, the Packers and

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the Lions both at two and one through three games

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>in the NFC North. Did you see the at the

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>end of the first half how that Lions Cardinals game?

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Just I did that.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>There was a there was a play Jared Goff throws

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>what turned into a pick six by the Cardinals, and

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>then after the play was over, the officials decided that

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the clock had reached the two minute warning of the

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>first half before the snap, and they like just said

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the play doesn't count.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And then a few plays later the Lions got a

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>touchdown you know, and got seven points going the other way.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Very strange sequence of events there. Just to update everybody

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in case you want you're paying attention not paying attention.

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Three teams in the AFC are three and oh the

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.479
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Buffalo Bills,

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>who put a herding on the Jacksonville Jaguars on Monday

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Night football. The Jaguars now zero to three with Trevor

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and his big monster contract. But in reflecting on

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Football, we'd be remiss if we didn't bring

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>up what happened in Cincinnati on Monday night. Jaden Daniels,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy winning star from LSU, has arrived on

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the scene in the NFL. Man on the road against

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty darn good defense with a veteran a veteran

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>defense with a veteran defensive coordinator, he carved him up. Man. Basically,

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>they scored points every time they touch the ball. Would

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>they end up racking up thirty eight? Was it to

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>win that game. Jayden Daniels only throws two incompletions the

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>entire game. One of those would have been a touchdown

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>if he had if he'd been able to hit it.

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when young quarterbacks are thrown into the fire right away,

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>they can hit the ground running. There is no tried

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and true set formula for how to do this, because

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>sometimes Jade and Daniels shows.

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Up and there is one. There is one kind of

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>somewhat tried and true formula. Give the guy an offensive

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>line and give him some playmakers.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Very good point.

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>The more I read about the Washington Commanders, the more

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>there really was a belief there that they had the

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.239
<v Speaker 2>pieces in place there to compete this year if they

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>could find the quarterback. And I think they did it

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>with this young man because it and this is a

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of what Houston did too, man where they really

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>struggled mightily for a long time, but then they get CJ.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Stroud and they have guys around him to pick him up,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>and then they let the guy make plays.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Stroud ends up being the NFL offensive rookie

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of the year.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and watching Jade and Daniels and there were so

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>many great moments in that game, but I'm sitting there

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>watching the end of it because I have just give

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you some insight here. I have some fantasy football stakes

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>into all this. No gambling at Bushwood, but a very

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>competitive league that I'd been in for twenty years, and

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, I might have had Moss and waiting to

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>see what he does. And yeah, obviously a garbage touchdown

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>which very well appreciated at the end of that game,

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>won my game. To take that Dave vander Moss three

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and oh he's two and one. It's all good. But

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>be that as it may. Daniel's throw and Cincinnati sent

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>everybody except their safeties basically at him on that play,

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>including a free rusher because they have eight going after him.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>He stands up, does not wielt under pressure. And Michael,

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, if this would have been a play

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>out at Nichgie Field and he's throwing that ball from

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the forty yard line into those little nets in the

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>end zone that they do that drill, he would have put,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>if not in it, right by it. He could not

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>have thrown a better ball to Terry McLaurin.

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was a heck of a catch by McLaurin.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Incredible overage was outstanding, incredible, but yeah, amazing, absolutely absolutely

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>amazing performance and an amazing finish to that performance by Jade.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you a funny story. So I do

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>the pregame radio with James Jones and Dennis Crousey and

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Mike Keller, and they did this whole thing where they

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>get they listed off all the three and O t

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>or all the two and O teams, and Dennis asked

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>us like, Okay, who's who's the most you know, for

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>real team and all this. Mike picked Houston, I picked

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay and and James said none of them. And

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it's fool He's probably like really, he's like, the Texans

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>probably are the best one. But I mean, I an'm

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>believing it in these teams, and I think that's really funny.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I said Tampa Bay because I just felt like they

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>figured out a formula and then that formula unraveled against

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Denver and then you know, conversely, man, I don't know

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>if it was a Joe Mixon effect. I don't know

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>what it was. I did not watch enough of that.

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Game, but yeah, I didn't see enough of it either.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>The Vikings got after the Texans and a Texas team

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>that I thought was going to be infallible and was

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>going to, if not maybe not win every game, but

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>not get blown up by you know, twenty seven points points. Yeah,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that that was an eye opener for me.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely about the and I want to look into

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that game a little bit more as the week goes along,

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about it more on Thursday when we

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>go into a little bit more depth with the Vikings.

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>But I did see, like right off the bat, the

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Vikings got an interception of Stroud, like deep in Houston territory,

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>and that just seemed to kind of set the tone.

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<v Speaker 1>The Texans were kind of off kilter, the Vikings were

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<v Speaker 1>rolling their home crowd and you know, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that in Minneapolis. So but yeah, let's let's talk more

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings on our next show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna close with this because I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to remind everybody in how difficult it is to win

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. The Los Angeles Rams survive San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>to go to one and two. The forty nine Ers

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<v Speaker 2>now are one and two. A lot of injuries, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's still one in two. Sean McVay is going to

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<v Speaker 2>his post game news conference saying, Holy bleep because his

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<v Speaker 2>team just finally got on a win in a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Difficult situation, incredibly difficult situation for the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati oh to three, Baltimore holds off whatever that was

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter by the Cowboys. Both of those

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<v Speaker 2>teams are one and two. Tampa Bay or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>Miami loses to is one and two. And then you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here looking at a league where there's so much parody,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much hype in just how quickly teams are

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<v Speaker 2>put in the crosshairs. Never discount a victory. The Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers found two very hard earned ones coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the AFC South, and now they've put them in

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<v Speaker 2>a position to be in a very competitive game on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two teams in this league and only five still

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<v Speaker 1>have zero in the lost column after three weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully the Packers can take that zero out of the

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<v Speaker 1>lost column for the Vikings this weekend. But we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that later this week. For now, we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted'd be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the team on

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. For Wes Iammike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you next time.