1 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined as always 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkoitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at Lambellfield to talk about 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: another Green Bay Packers victory with backup quarterback Malik Willis West. 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: This one was thirty to fourteen, a very convincing victory 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: on the road at Tennessee. Packers get to two and one, 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Titans drop to zero to three. A lot to talk 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: about here, whether you're talking about what Malik Willis did 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: on the offensive side, what the Packers did on the 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: defensive side. So I will let you decide where you 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: want to start with this one. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think we have to start with all due 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: respect to the defense and all due respect to the 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Packers and everything they did offensively the floor, going to 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: his podium and this postgame news conference and talking about 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: just how inconceivable it is what Malik Willis has been 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: able to do on the short timeline with which he's 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: had to work in the fact that he has not 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: played a lot of NFL football up until this point, 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: and has been able to play winning football at every turn, 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: whether it's him using his legs, it's whether he's using 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: his arms, or whether it's just him managing the offense 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: and the motions and everything that functions on time. This 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: is unlike anything I've seen. And for as much as 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: we will celebrate in Harold, you know, like what Matt 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Flynn did coming back in twenty thirteen and helping the 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: Packers with the playoff push. Flynn had been in the 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: offense before, he'd worked with Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements. 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: For four years. 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: For four years. Malik Willis showed up with a bag 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: and was like, all right, let's play some quarterback and 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: you go, Milike Willis what We'll see what happens with 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: the Vikings game, and whether or not Jordan Love plays. 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that later this week. Let's say Love does. 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Let's say Malik Willis, it's a good Lord Willing doesn't 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: see the field again this year. Because Jordan Love's so 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: healthy and play at such an incredible level, we never 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: have to talk about it again unless they want to 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: use him in some certain types of packages. The Packers 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: gave up a seventh round pick for this guy, and 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: they got two wins out of it. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the biggest return of investment I can 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: even think of when you're talking about trades that happen 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: at the end of training camp. 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't like to and I'm going to 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: keep this brief because I don't like to disparage other 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: NFL franchises by any means. This is a tough business. 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: It's the most competitive business there is professional sports. But 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've witnessed in all my time doing 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: this an egg on the face as badly as what 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: happened in Tennessee. There where the quarterback that they had discarded, 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: that they had relegated to number three. They were going 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: to cut him, maybe bring him back on the PRAC squad, 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: we don't even know that for sure, and they dumped 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: him for a seventh round pick. And he walked back 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: in there less than a month later, into that same 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: building and beat that team and badly outplayed the quarterback 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: that they have pinned their hopes to for the future. 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: That's as embarrassing as it gets in this league. I'm sorry, 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I feel bad for Titans fans to 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: a certain extent, although, as I said, an insider inbox. 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: They didn't even show up to support their team. On Sunday, 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Packers fans took over that place, took over Nissan Stadium 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: in Nashville. Hats off to the Green Bay fans for that. 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: But Malik Willis two starts, his passer rating is over 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. The offense has rushed for more 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: than four hundred and fifty yards or right around four 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty in the two games that he's been 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. He got in on the rushing act 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: in this last one, not only with some scrambles, the 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: improvised stuff when the play breaks down in the pocket, 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: but with some design runs a well the zone read keepers. 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Those were working early seventy three rushing yards and a 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: touchdown rushing for Malik Willis. All of that in the 77 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: first half as the Packers build a twenty twenty to 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: seven lead in this game. And quite frankly, I mean, 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: you know the Titans. I mean, once Jayi Alexander got 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: the pick six to make it seventeen to seven, right, 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the Titans. We never made it a one score game again. 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: It was a multi score game the rest of the way. 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: And that's what you want to see. I mean, as 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Nageler talked about it after the game in his podcast, 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: and a lot of people discuss it. You want to 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: play a four quarter football game, you want to keep 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: your pedal to the floor. And I felt like Green 88 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Bay did that, especially the fact that seven of those 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: eight sacks came in the second half, most of them 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: came in the fourth quarter. The Packers were able to 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: push the Titans to the brink and then did exactly 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: what you want to see them do a as the 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: team that they're played better then, and they overall looked 94 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 2: superior to and just quickly to mention about the Malik 95 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: Willis rushing aspect of this thing a week ago, they 96 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: kept it very manageable for him, especially early on. He 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: had to make some throws in the second half when 98 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: the running games started to slow a little bit. But 99 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: it was Josh Jacobs, it was Jaden Reid in this game. 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: With how much the Tennessee Titans were buckling down against 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: wanting to stop Jacobs, things became open for the Packers 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: on the outside. And what I loved about this game, 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: and this is the hallmark of a good football team, 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: regardless of who your quarterback, is you play one way 105 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: one week, can you play differently than next? The green 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Bay Packers absolutely threw the change up that they needed 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: to throw against the Tennessee Titans. And what was that 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: change up? Explosive plays two thirty yard completions on the 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: opening series that ends up generating a touchdown. They finished 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: that drive, they got the seven points, and from there 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Green Bay was able to have enough of those ruptures 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: that even though they weren't running the ball great in 113 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: the first half, they were able to counter with big 114 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: explosive plays on the other side of it, several of 115 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: which came on third and long situations, situations you do 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: not anticipate converting on third and fourteen, on third and eighteen. 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers efficiency in this game on both 118 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. We'll talk more about the defense 119 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: here momentarily, but for them to play clean football back 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: to back weeks, no turnovers offensively with a backup quarterback Mike, 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: it don't happen like that in the NFL. 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. Yeah, Malik Willis's ability to be efficient, 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: to be explosive, but also protect the ball all at 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: the same time has been a It's been a remarkable 125 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: combination for somebody who just got to Green Bay roughly 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: a month ago. I want to talk about those third 127 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: and longs and this will help us transition also to 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: the defensive side, because as I've spent a couple of 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: days processing this game and with some of the coverage 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: and the film review and different things that I do, 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I appreciated at the time, and when 132 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: we're writing all our postgame stuff on the bus on 133 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the plane coming back all that how pivotal the drive 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half was for multiple reasons. 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Packers are up seventeen to seven, they get the ball 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: with six h two on the clock yep, and there 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: are multiple times during that drive where the Packers are 138 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: in serious danger of giving the ball back to the Titans, 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: with the Titans down by ten points and a chance 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: for the Titans to double up with the possession at 141 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, and then getting the 142 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: ball coming out to start the third quarter because they 143 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: had deferred on the opening coin toss. Packers had three 144 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: penalty three offensive penalties on that drive, twenty five yards 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: in penalties, but in overcoming those penalties, Malik Willis converts 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the third and fourteen on the deep en route to 147 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobs, then third and eighteen because of penalties, and 148 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: he hits Christian Watson, who then is able to slip 149 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: down the steine because Lagerius sneaed fell down as Watson 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: is cutting across, and that third and eighteen turns into 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: a thirty seven yard gain. The Packers end up now 152 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: they weren't able to finish that drive. They end up 153 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: kicking a field goal, but the Packers ended up killing 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: the entire six zh two. At the end of the 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: first half, they get the three points and they go 156 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: up twenty to seven. So the Titans didn't get it back, 157 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: didn't get the chance to double up. And the reason 158 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm emphasizing this drive so much is because then what 159 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: happens at the start of the second half. The Titans 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: come out, They get I believe, one first down. They 161 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: have the ball at their own thirty seven yard line. 162 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't even one first down at that point, 163 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: but they decided to go for it on fourth and 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: one inside their own forty yard line. Down by thirteen points. 165 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: They they had initially sent out the punter, the crowd, 166 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: what was there of a Tennessee crowd was booing. They 167 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: called timeout. They decided to go forward on fourth and one, 168 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this at the time, but Tennessee 169 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: had only run eighteen offensive plays in the entire first half. 170 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: They had ten yard ten play drive for a touchdown, 171 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: a one play drive that was Alexander's pick six, and 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: then back to back punts in which the drives were 173 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: only four plays and three plays. Eighteen snaps in the 174 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: first half is all they had. There is no doubt 175 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: in my mind that the Packers killing the last six 176 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: minutes of the first half and Tennessee coming out not 177 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: only because they were down thirteen, but they'd only run 178 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: eighteen plays. They'd only had the ball four times. That 179 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: strongly influenced a highly risky decision to go forward on 180 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: fourth and one in their own territory. They fail on 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: the fourth and one as Kway Walker, Isaiah McDuffie, jy 182 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: R Alexander combined to take away you know, a run 183 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: pass option thing they were trying to run with Will Levis. 184 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Packers hit the screen pass to Emmanuel Wilson for a touchdown. 185 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: It's twenty seven to seven that sequence. End of first half. 186 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Beginning of second half just completely turned this game on 187 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: its head. Yeah, and it's a credit to both sides 188 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: of the ball for the Packers with the offense overcame 189 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: with the penalties to kill six minutes and get a 190 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: field goal, and then the defense to get the stop 191 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: on the fourth and one. A very questionable decision to 192 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: go for it there when it's so early in the 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: third quarter. Was that was a pivotal sequence in this game, 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: and the Packers were in command the rest of the way. 195 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: Brian Callahan, first time first year head coach, made two 196 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: pivotal errors. I felt like at the beginning of the 197 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: first the second half, you can't do anything about the 198 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Packers and the drive they went on at the end 199 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: of the first half, you could. 200 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: Have stopped them, You could have the defense's got the 201 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: oupards day to come back, and actually third and eighteen 202 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: you have a chance to get the ball back at 203 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: the end of the first half and possibly the the 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: double up thing, and with having deferred and their defense 205 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: completely blew that they. 206 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Did so, and then the second half you go back, 207 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: you end up coming out right out of the gate. 208 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: The fact is is that I felt like, if you 209 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: send your punting team out there first, that's the move. 210 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: You already told your offense that you think you should 211 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: punt there. Now you're killing a timeout where you're down 212 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: thirteen points and you're having to use now you're punting. 213 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: And then also from the standpoint, the other thing I 214 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: thought was almost inexcusable. They didn't run the ball at 215 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: all on that series out in to start the third quarter. 216 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Right they were down thirteen points, and they were acting 217 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: like they were down twenty one points. They were still 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: in a position, as it even showed Mike when they 219 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: finally did get back in the end zone there, even 220 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: at that point I think it was twenty seven to fourteen, 221 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: you're still in a manageable situation in the middle of 222 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: the third quarter. And then slowly the yarn began to unravel. 223 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they'd run eighteen plays in the first half. 224 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: You're barely out of whatever, whether you want to call 225 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: it a fifteen play script or your first fifteen thoughts 226 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: or how the game plan is designed. You're barely out 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: of those initial thoughts of various situations, you know, on 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: the game plan. It just felt it felt like they 229 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: got they got completely rattled by the fact that they 230 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: were walking out at the start of the second half, 231 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: not only down by thirteen points, but feeling like they 232 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: hadn't they hadn't had the ball on offense really since 233 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: the op since their opening possession of the game when 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: they did move it and they got a touchdown, and 235 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: them trying to force the issue just completely backfired. 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and with a young quarterback like that who's already 237 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: been turnover prone, when you're playing from behind, that some 238 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: bad things can happen. And in this case, I mean 239 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: you look at the fact that DeVante Wyatt had two 240 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: second half sacks, Presco Smith had sacks on back to 241 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: back series to end the game. You had kay Walker again, 242 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: like you were talking about, step up and make a 243 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: huge play stopping Will Levis to along with Isaiah McDuffie. 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: But that's a pivotal position there for the Packers to 245 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: get the ball at the thirty seven yard line, it 246 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: won't count towards those takeaway numbers we keep referencing, But 247 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: the Packers got the ball at their thirty seven and 248 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: they had a thirty yard screens to score a touchdown. Yeah, 249 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: now maybe fourth maybe it will be oh yeah, go ahead, No, sorry, 250 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: go ahead? No, Emmanuel Wilson, maybe he goes, maybe he 251 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: still scores on like sixty yard touchdown there. We don't 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: know once he gets in the open field. But the 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: fact is you're dealing with the short field. And one 254 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: of the things that have really been hurting the Packers 255 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: through these first two games, the first eight quarters, was 256 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: the fact that they weren't able to finish those drives. 257 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: And in this game they did and with a few 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: small exceptions, one of which you know, being the penalty situation, 259 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: green Bay played a pretty clean football game, buying large 260 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: in all three phases. 261 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll get back to the penalties in 262 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: a second. You said it though, a fourth down, a 263 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: fourth down stop, especially in that area of the field, 264 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: that's as good as a turnover. That's that functions as 265 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: a takeaway, even though statistically it's not a fumble or interception. 266 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: But you talk about forcing the issue. As the second 267 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: half war on, Jeff Hafley started dialing it up, man, 268 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean he you know, will Levis was having trouble 269 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: making plays. He wasn't really using his legs and trying 270 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: to scramble and do things, which is what I thought 271 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: he would do. Uh, quite a bit going into this game. 272 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: He didn't really do that. He was trying to sit 273 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: in the pocket and make throws and make plays, and 274 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the Packers pass rush just kept caving in that Titans 275 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: offensive line, sometimes sending a fifth guy, sometimes sending six guys, 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: and sometimes just the straight four man rush. With the 277 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: stunts and things they were running, Packers end up racking 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: up eight sacks. Statistically, it ends up as three takeaways 279 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: with Alexander's pick six, Anigbari with the strip sack that 280 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Luke's Faness recovers, and then late in the game, Xavier McKinney. 281 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: What more can we say about that guy? Three games 282 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: as a Green Bay Packer, three interceptions. The defense, The 283 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: defense really came to play. Unfortunately, you know that offside 284 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: on Preston Smith allowed the Titans on the first drive 285 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: to m scoring a touchdown when the Packers were going 286 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: to hold him to a field goal where Shuan Gary 287 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: had gotten a sack on third down there ended up 288 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: not counting. But that was one of the only mistakes 289 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: the Packers defense made in this entire game, and it 290 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: was just right in the very beginning. As the game 291 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: wore on, the Packers defense really found its legs, found 292 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: its footing, and you know, they made life miserable for 293 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: a young quarterback who has had a pretty miserable first 294 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: three weeks of the season. 295 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: They very much did, and which is what you have 296 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: to do again. The most sacks the Packers are having 297 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: a game in almost twenty years, It was January of 298 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, closing out that season that they 299 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: actually were able to get eight sacks in a game. 300 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: And when you break it down too, I was talking 301 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: with Preston Smith in the locker room afterwards, and you know, 302 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: you could tell how much that bothered him that he 303 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: had that neutral zone in fraction. This is the guy 304 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: is very prideful about what he does and he is 305 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: a very very close friend and mentor to where Sean 306 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: Garrett he didn't want to take that sack off the 307 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: board shirt them, but then to be able to rally. 308 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: He mentioned this even the two series where you know, 309 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: you look at the two touchdown producing series at the 310 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Titan had they moved the ball pretty easily for not 311 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: to be disrespectful, but it was a pretty seamless efficient drive. 312 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: The one thing Preston mentioned was the way that this 313 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: group is put together the amount of players that they have, 314 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: the veterans that they have who have played football here, 315 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: they're not rattled by that. They still feel like on 316 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: the next play, the next series, they're going to get 317 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: a sack, they're gonna get a negative yards play, they're 318 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: going to get a takeaway. And now nine takeaways through 319 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: the first three games, the most since two thousand and 320 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: nine that the Packers have had three consecutive games with 321 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: three takeaways each. This is winning football and what you did, 322 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: even though they still have some issues to answer for 323 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: with the run game, this will be a huge test 324 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: coming up this upcoming weekend. Yeah, they forced the Tennessee 325 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Titans to play one dimensional thirty three rushing yards in 326 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: this game, with Will Levis's twelve yards contributing to that. 327 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: That changes the complexion of everything. And listening to those 328 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: defensive ends and those defensive linemen talk about this in 329 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: the game afterwards, if they were over the moon about 330 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: what that was like playing in the fourth quarter and 331 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: just how much fun that was. And to quote Elton 332 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: Jenkins in one of his you know things, quoting Drake, 333 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean they were on their ass like a back pocket. 334 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: It is there's no better way to put it. Yeah, 335 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: And the fact is is that when you're facing a 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 2: young quarterback that hasn't played a lot of football at 337 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: this level, when you can generate that much pressure, you 338 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: can create that amount of doubt. That's the result. 339 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, What what I sensed is when the Titans had 340 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: that drive in the third quarter where they went right 341 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: down the field they cut it from twenty seven to 342 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: seven to twenty seven to fourteen, Levis was looking kind 343 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: of comfortable in the pocket. He was making the plays. 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: You know, Packers were sitting back a little bit, just 345 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: doing straight four man rush kind of stuff. And I 346 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: think after that drive, as you said, it was a 347 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: little bit too easy for Tennessee. I think after that drive, 348 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Haffley said, Okay, I don't know how many times 349 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: we're going to be able to sack this guy, but 350 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: we need to start. He needed to start dialing it up. 351 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: He needed to start coming after him to make him uncomfortable, 352 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: to speed him up, change the rhythm. The Packers needed 353 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: to change something there. And then when those changeups, you know, 354 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: speeding up Will Levis started to lead to the mistakes 355 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: and the sacks and all that. Then they just kept 356 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: after it. They just kept going because the Titans didn't 357 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: have an answer for it. And I thought, I thought 358 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: the way the rest of that second half was called 359 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: was very much a result of that one touchdown drive 360 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: by the Titans and just how comfortable Levis looked. And 361 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, can't let him just look that comfortable 362 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: out there, even if you're not going to sack him, 363 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: You've got to do something to disrupt him. And then 364 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: those disruptions ended up being successful. It ended up really 365 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: working in Green Bays faith. 366 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: So it won them the game, and it's why Matt 367 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Lafleur was so excited about the defense in the postgame 368 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: locker room, in the huddle afterwards. Two things that stood 369 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: out to me though I was thinking about while I 370 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: was watching this game. One, you unfortunately have to read 371 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: everything I write, as it's a part of your job description. 372 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: But Heyshawn Nixon had said last week when I was 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: talking with him at his locker, you know, he feels 374 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: like he's blitzed more this season from the slot than 375 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: he has all of last year. You saw how they 376 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: used Edger and Cooper in this game. I think Edge 377 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: played sixteen snaps and he came down on a blitz 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: and he was able to get his first half sack. 379 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: He did the Packers are it's not just okay, well, 380 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: it's Kenny Clark, Preston Smith and ra Shaun Gary. No, 381 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: it is a wave of players that Jeff Hafley threw 382 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: at Levice. And I think when you think about this 383 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: defense and them talking about vision to the football and aggression, 384 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: it's not just sending engage eight that worked out really 385 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: good for Cincinnati at the end of the Washington game. 386 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: It's about being strategic about how you blitz guys and occasionally, yeah, 387 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: you want to push the gas and send six. The 388 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: Packers got home with that too, yep. But it's about 389 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: the creativity, the quality, not the quantity. And I thought 390 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: this was a good representation of that. 391 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. The one black mark I 392 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: would say on this team maybe maybe two, one being 393 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Brayden Narbison did miss another field goal ended up not 394 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: counting because the Tennessee Titans were penalized on that missed 395 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: field goal, So the Packers got a fresh set of 396 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: downs and then that's what led to the screen pass 397 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: for a touchdown by Ammanuel Wilson. So still hoping that 398 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Narvison can smooth things out here. He did come back 399 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: later in the game and drill the forty seven yard 400 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: er with plenty of room to spare, so that was 401 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: good to see. But the penalties are something that the 402 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: penalties are plaguing the Packers a little bit, and plaguing 403 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: is a little bit strong of a word the way. 404 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: I wrote a story about this on our website Monday night, 405 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: with Matt Lafuer talking about it in his Monday press conference. 406 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: That and comments from players in the locker room on 407 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: Sunday that you had gotten from your interviews that the 408 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: penalties are just there. Are are preventing the Packers from 409 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: sort of reaching their from really playing at peak performance. 410 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: They've now been flagged twenty six times and that's not 411 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: including declined or offsetting penalties twenty six in fractions through 412 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: three games. I believe the penalty yards is somewhere close 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: to two hundred. I can't remember the number, maybe it's 414 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: one ninety six or something like that. But they've been 415 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: flagged for they they've been flagged too much in the 416 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: first three games. Mattle fulor knows it. He knows that 417 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: they have to clean it up. The players know it. 418 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: It's part of their film review on Monday, you know. 419 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: And whether you're talking about the holdings or the lining 420 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: up off sides and things like that, it really comes 421 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: down to it really comes down to the details, whether 422 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: it's the details of your technique or the details of 423 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: how you line up before the snap, those kinds of things. 424 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: It's definitely stuff that the Packers can clean up and 425 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: that they can fix, but they need to do so 426 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: because you're staring at a pretty big early season game 427 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: against the NFC North leading and three and oo Minnesota 428 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Vikings coming up, and you don't want to be walking 429 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: out a lambeau Field with another eight to ten penalties 430 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: on your register because it's going to be awfully tough 431 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: to beat Minnesota if that happens again. 432 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: And before I dive all into that, I want to 433 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: quickly give a shout out to the Tennessee Titans, who, 434 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: according to Klay Martin and his crew, played the cleanest 435 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: sixty minutes of offensive and defensive football in the history 436 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: of the National Football League. No penalties on either the 437 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: offense or defense. 438 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all They had what two special teams, both 439 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: on special team, both on and it killed them it 440 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: was bad. Yeah, the one. The one was a killer because, uh, 441 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: instead of getting the ball back at at twenty to 442 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: seven with the missed field goal, they get Packers get 443 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: the screen pass for the touchdown on the fresh set 444 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: of downs and it's twenty seven to seven, and that 445 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: game was that game was headed a different way. 446 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: Tug in shoot, tug and shoot, hole and shoot, pull 447 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: and shoot. That's what it was. 448 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Okay, the poll and shoot. 449 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: I learned one during this game. 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too. I had I hadn't actually heard 451 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: a referee like say that, like, yeah, crafo, you know 452 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: to explay in a penalty that he called it. He 453 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: called it defensive holding. The poll and shoot where you 454 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: grab onto a guy and you yank him out of 455 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the way so that one of your teammates can shoot 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: the gap to try to block the field goal. Well, 457 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: they caught him. They caught him at it, and the 458 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Packers took advantage. 459 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of bodies in there too. I'm surprised 460 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: they did. But be that as it made, Mike bring 461 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: this back to the Green Bay Packers. You brought up 462 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: some excellent points there, one of being that both of 463 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: those long third down conversions were brought on by penalty. Yeah, 464 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: the holding issues that green Bay was working through, and 465 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: then also the illegal hands of the face Hummer sheet Walker. 466 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: That's what led to green Bay having to make long 467 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: third down conversions. You can't live in that world. It 468 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: is incredible what Malik Willis did. I mean that passed 469 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: to Romeo Dobbs is about as good as it's going 470 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 2: to get in the National Football League. And then he 471 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: gave Christian Watson a chance to make a play. Watson 472 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: can make those plays. It was beautiful thing to watch, 473 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: but you have to clean that stuff up, and I 474 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: appreciate how people took ownership for it. I mentioned what 475 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: Preston Smith said about, you know, of feeling guilty abou 476 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: what happened on his neutral zone infraction. You had Elton Jenkins, 477 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: who I think in a lot of ways is playing 478 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: at a Pro Bowl caliber level again, but got busted 479 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: for two holding penalties and this thing. Zach tom who's 480 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: probably playing at an all pro level at right tackle, 481 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: had won illegal formation as well. So there are procedural 482 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: penalties that the Packers have to clean up. I've always 483 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: said this, Michael, you are going to get called for 484 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: holding this league unless, of course you're the Tennessee Titans 485 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: in this campaign, but you are going to get called 486 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: for holding. You are going to have defensive holding and 487 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: past interference. Those things are going to happen to you. 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: Illegal formations, illegal motions, false starts, encroachment, neutral zone infractions. 489 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: That's where you got to be smart. 490 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: That's the easy that's the easiest stuff to clean up 491 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: because that's all the priests, that's all the pre snap stuff, 492 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: and that's just really a matter of focus and concentration 493 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and all that. The as you say, the combative stuff. 494 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy used to use the word combative when it 495 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: came to the POSTNAT penalties. Those types of penalties, Yes, 496 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: they're going to happen. You want to try to reduce them. 497 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: The players know that sometimes they lose control of their technique. 498 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: By the same token, those offensive linemen are out there saying, 499 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: we don't want to get our quarterback killed. So if 500 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: they feel like they're getting beat and they're gonna grab 501 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: onto somebody, they do that. I think what somewhat's been 502 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: unfortunate is the Packers have been called for offensive holding 503 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: a couple times on running plays where it isn't about 504 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback and they just aren't executing the way 505 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: they should in those instances. I'm going to take care 506 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: of some sponsor business here. 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Cousin Subs fifty plus years of better. 513 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: All right, looking back other results in Week three, of course, 514 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: the biggest one you and I were sort of keeping 515 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: an eye on it, although it got out of hand 516 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: early Minnesota against the previously two and oh Houston Texans. 517 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: It ends up a route thirty four to seven in 518 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: favor of the Vikings. There are two teams in the 519 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: NFC wes that are three and oh, the Minnesota Vikings 520 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: in the Seattle Seahawks, and one of those, Minnesota is 521 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: coming to lambeau Field on Sunday in Week four, just 522 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: as we all figure the Vikings with the quarterback change, 523 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: and then the draft pick gets injured, and they turn 524 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: it over to Sam Darnold. They're three and oh and 525 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: the Packers, having lost their starting quarterback in Week one, 526 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: win two games with a backup, and they are two 527 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: and one, and now they square off in a pretty 528 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: significant early season matchup here in Green Bay. 529 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: I think it really One thing I really like about 530 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: the way the schedule did layout is you did have 531 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: a chance to get some of these non conference games 532 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: in terms of like the college reference to it. Obviously 533 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: they played an in conference game against the philadelp Eagles, 534 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: but now you're getting up against your division. Both of 535 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: these teams have kind of built some wind and got 536 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: some wind in their sales. I made the line an 537 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: insider inbox. I wrote the line that, you know, I 538 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: think there's reason for both of these teams to be confident, 539 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: and in a lot of ways, the Minnesota Vikings kind 540 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: of remind me of the twenty nineteen Green Bay Packers 541 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: in that I personally left them for dead. I thought 542 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: they were the fourth place team in the division. I 543 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: thought there was especially once JJ McCarthy went down, I'm like, 544 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: what is this team going to be able to accomplish 545 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: this year? I was very wrong Brian Flores is doing 546 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: remarkable work with that defense. Kevin O'Connell is one of 547 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: the brightest offensive mines in the game. And then here's 548 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: the other thing, Mike, And this is why I draw 549 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: the peril of twenty nineteen. The Vikings had to get 550 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: new personnel, they had to find upgrades, and they've done that, 551 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, bringing in a guy like Aaron Jones. Yeah, 552 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: he's going to be a big talking point because of 553 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: his connections to the Packers, But let's take all that away. 554 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: Multiple time Man of the Year nominee, a guy that 555 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: has been a Pro Bowl running back in this league 556 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: at twenty nine years old, still is finding ways to 557 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: get better and is off to a great start. That's 558 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: what they this run game for Minnesota needed after last season. Yeah, 559 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: the answer when Delvin Cook left, it wasn't Alexander Madison. 560 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. 561 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: They had to find a new path. They did that, 562 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: and there's countless examples of this with the free agenc 563 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: they've acquired, Sam Darnold being one of them. But the 564 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: Vikings made smart signings and it's helped make up for 565 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: the fact that they basically have no draft picks. 566 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I mean for as much as much 567 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: as they've struggled to help themselves in a lot of 568 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: ways in the draft. And of course, the jury's still 569 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: out on JJ McCarthy. You know, he's out for the year, 570 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: and I think we'll be talking about him plenty in 571 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the years to come. But you're right, and what Minnesota 572 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: was able to do in free agency has compensated for 573 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: not being able to help themselves as much in the 574 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: draft as they would want to. It's already looking pretty 575 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: darn interesting. In the NFC North. I know the Bears 576 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: are struggling. They lost to the Indianapolis Colts on the road. 577 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: They're one and two. But the Detroit Lions went out 578 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: to Arizona beat the Cars twenty to thirteen. So you 579 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: have the Vikings at three and oh, the Packers and 580 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: the Lions both at two and one through three games 581 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: in the NFC North. Did you see the at the 582 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: end of the first half how that Lions Cardinals game? 583 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: Just I did that. 584 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: There was a there was a play Jared Goff throws 585 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: what turned into a pick six by the Cardinals, and 586 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: then after the play was over, the officials decided that 587 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: the clock had reached the two minute warning of the 588 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: first half before the snap, and they like just said 589 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: the play doesn't count. 590 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 591 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: And then a few plays later the Lions got a 592 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: touchdown you know, and got seven points going the other way. 593 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Very strange sequence of events there. Just to update everybody 594 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: in case you want you're paying attention not paying attention. 595 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Three teams in the AFC are three and oh the 596 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Buffalo Bills, 597 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: who put a herding on the Jacksonville Jaguars on Monday 598 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Night football. The Jaguars now zero to three with Trevor 599 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence and his big monster contract. But in reflecting on 600 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, we'd be remiss if we didn't bring 601 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: up what happened in Cincinnati on Monday night. Jaden Daniels, 602 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winning star from LSU, has arrived on 603 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: the scene in the NFL. Man on the road against 604 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: a pretty darn good defense with a veteran a veteran 605 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: defense with a veteran defensive coordinator, he carved him up. Man. Basically, 606 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: they scored points every time they touch the ball. Would 607 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: they end up racking up thirty eight? Was it to 608 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: win that game. Jayden Daniels only throws two incompletions the 609 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: entire game. One of those would have been a touchdown 610 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: if he had if he'd been able to hit it. 611 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes when young quarterbacks are thrown into the fire right away, 612 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: they can hit the ground running. There is no tried 613 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: and true set formula for how to do this, because 614 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: sometimes Jade and Daniels shows. 615 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Up and there is one. There is one kind of 616 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: somewhat tried and true formula. Give the guy an offensive 617 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: line and give him some playmakers. 618 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Very good point. 619 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: The more I read about the Washington Commanders, the more 620 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: there really was a belief there that they had the 621 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 2: pieces in place there to compete this year if they 622 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: could find the quarterback. And I think they did it 623 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: with this young man because it and this is a 624 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: lot of what Houston did too, man where they really 625 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: struggled mightily for a long time, but then they get CJ. 626 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: Stroud and they have guys around him to pick him up, 627 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: and then they let the guy make plays. 628 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Stroud ends up being the NFL offensive rookie 629 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: of the year. 630 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and watching Jade and Daniels and there were so 631 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: many great moments in that game, but I'm sitting there 632 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: watching the end of it because I have just give 633 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: you some insight here. I have some fantasy football stakes 634 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: into all this. No gambling at Bushwood, but a very 635 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: competitive league that I'd been in for twenty years, and 636 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, I might have had Moss and waiting to 637 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: see what he does. And yeah, obviously a garbage touchdown 638 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: which very well appreciated at the end of that game, 639 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: won my game. To take that Dave vander Moss three 640 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: and oh he's two and one. It's all good. But 641 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: be that as it may. Daniel's throw and Cincinnati sent 642 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: everybody except their safeties basically at him on that play, 643 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: including a free rusher because they have eight going after him. 644 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: He stands up, does not wielt under pressure. And Michael, 645 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if this would have been a play 646 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: out at Nichgie Field and he's throwing that ball from 647 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: the forty yard line into those little nets in the 648 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: end zone that they do that drill, he would have put, 649 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: if not in it, right by it. He could not 650 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: have thrown a better ball to Terry McLaurin. 651 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a heck of a catch by McLaurin. 652 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Incredible overage was outstanding, incredible, but yeah, amazing, absolutely absolutely 653 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: amazing performance and an amazing finish to that performance by Jade. 654 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: Can I tell you a funny story. So I do 655 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: the pregame radio with James Jones and Dennis Crousey and 656 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: Mike Keller, and they did this whole thing where they 657 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: get they listed off all the three and O t 658 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: or all the two and O teams, and Dennis asked 659 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: us like, Okay, who's who's the most you know, for 660 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: real team and all this. Mike picked Houston, I picked 661 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and and James said none of them. And 662 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: it's fool He's probably like really, he's like, the Texans 663 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: probably are the best one. But I mean, I an'm 664 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: believing it in these teams, and I think that's really funny. 665 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: I said Tampa Bay because I just felt like they 666 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: figured out a formula and then that formula unraveled against 667 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Denver and then you know, conversely, man, I don't know 668 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: if it was a Joe Mixon effect. I don't know 669 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: what it was. I did not watch enough of that. 670 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: Game, but yeah, I didn't see enough of it either. 671 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: The Vikings got after the Texans and a Texas team 672 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: that I thought was going to be infallible and was 673 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: going to, if not maybe not win every game, but 674 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: not get blown up by you know, twenty seven points points. Yeah, 675 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: that that was an eye opener for me. 676 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely about the and I want to look into 677 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: that game a little bit more as the week goes along, 678 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it more on Thursday when we 679 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: go into a little bit more depth with the Vikings. 680 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: But I did see, like right off the bat, the 681 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: Vikings got an interception of Stroud, like deep in Houston territory, 682 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: and that just seemed to kind of set the tone. 683 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: The Texans were kind of off kilter, the Vikings were 684 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: rolling their home crowd and you know, and all of 685 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: that in Minneapolis. So but yeah, let's let's talk more 686 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: Vikings on our next show. 687 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna close with this because I just want 688 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: to remind everybody in how difficult it is to win 689 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: in this league. The Los Angeles Rams survive San Francisco 690 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: to go to one and two. The forty nine Ers 691 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 2: now are one and two. A lot of injuries, but 692 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: there's still one in two. Sean McVay is going to 693 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: his post game news conference saying, Holy bleep because his 694 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: team just finally got on a win in a very. 695 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Difficult situation, incredibly difficult situation for the Rams. 696 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: Cincinnati oh to three, Baltimore holds off whatever that was 697 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter by the Cowboys. Both of those 698 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: teams are one and two. Tampa Bay or excuse me, 699 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: Miami loses to is one and two. And then you're 700 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: sitting here looking at a league where there's so much parody, 701 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: there's so much hype in just how quickly teams are 702 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: put in the crosshairs. Never discount a victory. The Green 703 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: Bay Packers found two very hard earned ones coming out 704 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: of the AFC South, and now they've put them in 705 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: a position to be in a very competitive game on 706 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 2: Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings. 707 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: Thirty two teams in this league and only five still 708 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: have zero in the lost column after three weeks, and 709 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: hopefully the Packers can take that zero out of the 710 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: lost column for the Vikings this weekend. But we'll get 711 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: to that later this week. For now, we'll call it 712 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted'd be sure 713 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 714 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. For Wes Iammike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody, 715 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: We will see you next time.