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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorite, the podcast, part of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network and proudly presented by Bett three six five. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as I am for every episode by

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Speaker 1: my co host, my companion, my campadre, my BFF, professional

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Speaker 2: Hello, hot Chad. How was your weekend, brother, dude?

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Speaker 1: My weekend rot. I dominated on Mother's Day. I was

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Speaker 1: such a good husband, such a good son. My older

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Speaker 1: son came in from out of town from college for college,

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Speaker 1: from college to ten own.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was great to see him and made my wife

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Speaker 1: really happy. The weather was beautiful. I was near perfection.

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Speaker 2: If I almost, I was gonna say almost as good

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Speaker 2: as me. I was gonna just go right into how

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Speaker 2: I'm just the loser from the Loser Villa Philadelphia. We

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Speaker 2: don't need to get to that. We're about to cover

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Yeah, just a rough weekend for me. The

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Speaker 2: only good highlight for me, Chad, the whole weekend. You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit of a gaming nerd. A new

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Speaker 2: Zelda came out Tires of the Kingdom, So I've been

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Speaker 2: distracted to myself. I'm trying not to be too depressed,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna lie. You know, it is chad

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Speaker 2: when your team losing the playoffs. It just sucks, especially

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Speaker 2: when people talk shit to you. So as a Sixers fan,

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed. But as his lover of Zelda, life is

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Speaker 2: good right now, I am actually in a good place.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting? Uh won't we won't harp too

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Speaker 1: much on this because, as you mentioned, the Sixers, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we've got a huge show today. We've got Matt Moore

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Speaker 1: It's just freaking awesome. He's going to come on. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk the conference finals. Maria Marino is going

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Speaker 1: to come out. We're going to talk about all that's

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Speaker 1: going on in the WNBA, which, by the way, if

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Speaker 1: of course, the host of Green Dot Daily, our Daily show.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of Zelda this weekend because my

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Speaker 1: older son, who you know, is in Philly at Drexel

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Speaker 1: Game Design, focuses on tabletop games and like the kind

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Speaker 1: of experiential games, so Zelda is in his wheelhouse. So

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Speaker 1: we were all excited about that as well, at least

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Speaker 1: as much as I can understand it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you were a child of the nineties, which I am,

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Speaker 2: it's like, it don't get much bigger. I think this

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Speaker 2: and Pokemon are two of the biggest you know staples,

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Speaker 2: the most ninety kids that played games back in the day.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, someone that's in Hawaii that should be at

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Speaker 2: the beach. I've been indoors for about three days now,

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Speaker 1: I remember, you're just a little boy who loves Zelda,

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Speaker 1: we get to the Western Conference Finals, before we get

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Speaker 1: to the Eastern Conference Finals. Just before we sat down

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Speaker 1: to record this podcast on Tuesday, Doc Rivers unsurprisingly fired

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Speaker 1: by the Sixers Joel Embiid with a press conference postgame

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Speaker 1: in which he basically throws everybody under the bus. Madame Maria,

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Speaker 1: I want your takes on this. I want Simon to

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Speaker 1: be able to respond as a Sixers fan, because wow,

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Speaker 1: that was a pathetic, pathetic. You had to watch that

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Speaker 1: only because you couldn't believe how bad it was going

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Speaker 1: for the Sixers from the second they scored that three

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Speaker 1: three point basket two minutes into the third quarter. Matt Moore,

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Speaker 1: you first, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, you're not surprising the dog got fired.

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Speaker 4: You know, somebody's got to be accountable. It's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be Joel Embiid. So that's not gonna happen. That's not

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Speaker 4: how it goes. Look, that game, though, that series is

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Speaker 4: on Joel Embiid had nel c El's brain. I want

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Speaker 4: injuries that he seems to have every single year. But look,

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Speaker 4: James Harden got them Game one, James Harden got them

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Speaker 4: Game four. Joel embie didn't get them a game in

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Speaker 4: that series. Didn't get them a game. The other guys

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Speaker 4: I thought stepped up in that series gave them a chance.

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Speaker 4: Doc though his history of failure in these elimination games,

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Speaker 4: in after not surprised they decided to go in another direction.

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Speaker 4: But to me, this is the first domino of probably

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Speaker 4: to cost them huge For Guy, it's probably not worth

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Speaker 4: it at this point. And honestly about the future of

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Speaker 4: at after all of these failures. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: I think, a very interesting summer in Philadelphia. It starts

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Speaker 4: it ends there after what was an immense failure. Again,

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Speaker 4: even in a situation where they were underdogs, they lost

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Speaker 4: a series that they should have lost, but the way

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Speaker 1: Maria, you are a hoops head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how annoying is Joel Embiid? He has been so annoying.

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Speaker 3: This is not the first time that he has thrown

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Speaker 3: that Ben Simmons had, but like after they lost, he

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Speaker 3: the presser, like you don't do that to teammates. Like

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Speaker 3: no wonder he had like severe mental issues after that

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Speaker 3: and then here again he is playing the blame game.

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Speaker 3: You can't win a playoff series when your MVP is

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Speaker 3: not playing like an MVP. Now, Joel Embiid's problem is

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Speaker 3: he is never healthy. He has not been healthy in

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Speaker 3: any of these postseason runs. I mean twenty nineteen, like

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Speaker 5: Was like oh, like after to the raptors, like that's

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Speaker 5: like what I think of and like, you know, great player.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not surprised at Doc Rivers losing his job

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Speaker 5: Tenures in the NBA are so fragile. But how how

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Speaker 5: is Doc.

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Speaker 3: Rivers supposed to win in the playoffs when Joel Embiid

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Speaker 3: is not healthy? Like how so, yeah, that's my reaction.

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Speaker 1: Well, Simon, look, you're the fan. Uh how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about Maria's takedown of Joel Embiid and Matt's analysis

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Speaker 1: of no I love it, You're spot on? And Matt's

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the idea of keeping James Harden.

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Speaker 2: I hate that part. Get out. I do not want

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Speaker 2: any more James Harden. I would say it's tough because

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Speaker 2: Philly is such a city of like I mean, not

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Speaker 2: the people that go to these games. That's their lives, right,

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Speaker 2: They're like making barely making fifty sixty K a year.

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Speaker 2: They're paying a lot of money for those season tickets.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, man, like it hurts, Like even talking about

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Speaker 2: it hurts. Because Joe Embi to me is a Sixers fan,

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Speaker 2: I honestly could say he probably sure passed Ai for me,

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Speaker 2: Like I loved were the Sixers players like I grew

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Speaker 2: up with. Ai was definitely the best, right he was.

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Speaker 2: He took us all the way to the finals. He

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Speaker 2: took a game from Kobe by himself. Right, our second

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Speaker 2: So Embeid, we've just given the benefit of doubt all

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Speaker 2: these years. He's a loser and he's just mentally weak.

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Speaker 2: So as a Sixers fan, I would love to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's keep Joel. I can't do it, man, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm over the whole experience. I'm over this whole team.

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Speaker 2: It all starts to the top though, like ownership. I

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Speaker 2: hate our ownership. I hated it from top to bottom,

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Speaker 2: like the whole way they Sam Hinky was forced out

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Speaker 2: by the NBA. It's just been it's been awful. So

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Speaker 2: we talked about Jay. This is the first year, I

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Speaker 2: think in five years, I didn't have a futures on

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Speaker 2: the six years, I just didn't believe in the Harden

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Speaker 2: Embiid combo. There are two guys that historically never produced

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, right, they always got close. Harden got close.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Houston team, what was it they lost?

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Speaker 2: I think they got the worst to a game seven,

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Speaker 2: and they took forty three pointers and they made like

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Speaker 2: five of them and they lost by like four points.

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Speaker 2: So it's one of those where Hard in his whole career,

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Speaker 2: he's just been kind of choking. I can't defend Embiid anymore,

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Speaker 2: like I want to defend people, all these haters against Embiid,

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Speaker 2: Like he doesn't show up in these big moments. So

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Speaker 2: like all the old guys in Philly sports talk ready

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Speaker 2: to call up. They're like, aw, you're gonna learn to win.

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Speaker 2: If your whole point of reasoning it's tanking. It's like

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Speaker 2: that was the stupidest theory ever. It worked out for them,

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Speaker 2: Like Embiid never learned how to win, apparently because he

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Speaker 2: doesn't win like what is it now he loses in

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Speaker 2: the second round. I think four out of five years,

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Speaker 2: he's just oh, chat, it's bad. So to me, yes,

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Speaker 2: they're probably gonna bring Joell back. I'm cool with blowing

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Speaker 1: first game on the docket. Matt Moore, you are a

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Speaker 2: No, fuck you, Matt.

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Speaker 6: Do you bet narrative.

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Speaker 4: Which has determined so much of NBA history, or do

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Speaker 4: They went through the Warriors secret The Warriors weren't that

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Speaker 6: Who's the best player in this series? If you believe it's.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Davis, you should betting him to be Western Conference

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Speaker 6: That New Market is choice.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you believe the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 4: That's another good one because they need to steal home court.

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Speaker 4: This Nuggets team is elite at home. They've been dominant

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Speaker 6: But look, Denver's better.

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Speaker 4: They have the better player, they have a deeper roster

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Speaker 4: So I can't I thought about the series. I don't

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Speaker 3: This is a tough one because I too, am battling

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's gonna be the consensus, right Simon,

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Speaker 2: A lot of books were huge odds at one point.

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Speaker 2: It's just how am I going to against Lebron? Like

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Speaker 2: So everything Matt just said so true, Amria that, like,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be incredible just because you know, Djokitch might

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Speaker 2: He's playing a Lakers team that, yes, ad is incredible,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Matt, you talk about this all the time.

443
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Speaker 1: The NBA is a narrative league, and that is how

444
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Speaker 1: you win MVPs. We saw it this year with Embiid.

445
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: Jokich easily could have won the MVP. May have had

446
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Speaker 1: a better season this year than in his other two

447
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Speaker 1: MVP seasons, but the narrative was for Embiid. While the

448
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Speaker 1: narrative doesn't determine who's going to win this Lakers Nugget series,

449
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Speaker 1: the narrative is certainly fun for the Nuggets, and it

450
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Speaker 1: makes you want to root for the Nuggets so he

451
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Speaker 1: can get that capstone in his career.

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Speaker 6: I mean a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think you know, it's finishing the conversation about Yokis

454
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: because it was. It was really funny when it was like, well,

455
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: you can't vote for Jokis. She hasn't done anything in

456
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: the playoffs. We should vote Joelle.

457
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Speaker 6: And be wait, I'm sorry what?

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Right, And now we see how that worked out.

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Speaker 4: This is, by the way, Yoki's second consecutive Conference finals

461
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Speaker 4: appearance when Jamal mur Murray's healthy.

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Speaker 6: I would say that.

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Speaker 4: The other thing here is is, look, so last year

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Speaker 4: I came on the program and I was like, we

465
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Speaker 4: got about the Celtics, we got a bet the Sellies

466
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Speaker 4: versus the Warriors, and Simon.

467
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Speaker 6: Was like, are you out your mind?

468
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Speaker 4: And he was absolutely right, Like that's agin the question

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Speaker 4: here though, So, like you know, Marie mentioned Lebron's dominance

470
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Speaker 4: in the conference finals. The Warriors were undefeated in the

471
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Speaker 4: Western Conference playoffs and they're out. Why because father time

472
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 4: comes for everybody. I've watched Lebron James from I was

473
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Speaker 4: watching his high school games when I was in my

474
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Speaker 4: senior year of college at the I would go to

475
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Speaker 4: the gym and get on the treadmill and just watch

476
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Speaker 4: his high school games. I've watched the entire path. This

477
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 4: is not that Lebron James. He can be that for

478
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Speaker 4: a game. He will be that for a game. He'll

479
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Speaker 4: be that for two games. I don't think he can

480
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: be it for four. If you want to bet the

481
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 4: Lakers in this series, you have to bet that Anthony

482
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: Davis is gonna better than Nicole Jokic. Like you have

483
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Speaker 4: to because Davis is gonna have to slow him down

484
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: and he's gonna have to score. Both of those things

485
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 4: are gonna have to happen. If the Lakers are gonna win.

486
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Speaker 4: This has to be Lebron and Clutch Management manufacture the

487
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Speaker 4: trade for Anthony Davis out of New Orleans to help Lebron,

488
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Speaker 4: And for four seasons, Lebron has been waiting for him

489
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Speaker 4: to take the mantle so Lebron can take a rest

490
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Speaker 4: so the man doesn't.

491
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Speaker 6: Have to do everything.

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Speaker 4: And Davis has never stepped up until this year when

493
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Speaker 4: he's been healthy. So you're gonna have to bet that

494
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Speaker 4: Davis is gonna be healthy and he's gonna be the

495
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Speaker 4: best player. If you're betting this purely on Lebron, that's

496
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Speaker 4: where I have to be like guys like I've seen

497
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Speaker 4: him at that guy. He again, he'll have stretches. He's

498
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Speaker 4: not that guy. We're not just like, well, he might

499
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Speaker 4: not be peak Lebron. No, not peak Lebron was twenty eighteen.

500
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Speaker 4: We are five years past, not peak Lebron. That's where

501
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: we're at right now with this series.

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Speaker 3: But can I just say I don't think he needs

503
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Speaker 3: to necessarily be peak Lebron, only in those key moments

504
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Speaker 3: when you need him to be, because I think this

505
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Lakers team is a lot deeper than we realize. Like

506
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Speaker 3: what they did at the trade deadline is so wild,

507
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Speaker 3: Like you have these role players, like I think D'Angel

508
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: Russell fits so well with them, and like you see

509
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Speaker 3: Hachi Murra I win them games and Walker and Reeves

510
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Speaker 3: and like, I don't know, I don't think that you

511
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Speaker 3: need You don't need him to beat Peak Lebron all

512
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Speaker 3: the time. And then also, like the point that you

513
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Speaker 3: made about the Warriors, I totally agree with you, father,

514
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: time comes with ever, you know, for everybody. But the

515
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Speaker 3: reason that the Warriors are so tired this year is

516
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Speaker 3: because they just won last year. Like when after you

517
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Speaker 3: win and go all the way to the finals, it's

518
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Speaker 3: really really hard to win again just because you're tired.

519
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Speaker 3: Like I don't think Clay is the same person or

520
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, player, I don't think Draymond is the same player.

521
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Speaker 3: But like it's because part of it is because they

522
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Speaker 3: won just last year.

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Speaker 5: Does that make sense?

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00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say we all know what happened to Warriors though,

525
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: that Draymond Green punched a pool in the face that

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Speaker 2: that ain'ted their whole chance to make a run, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's.

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Speaker 1: One of those well look but Simon, there is that,

529
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Speaker 1: But there's also the fact that you look at Pool

530
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Speaker 1: didn't really advance as far as a player. He kind

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Speaker 1: of regressed this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, watch the finals from last year. Don't know, it's

533
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Speaker 2: the same player.

534
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Speaker 1: Kaminga never got into the rotation. True, Moody never became

535
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Speaker 1: a player. Wiseman has been traded. So the team that

536
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: they thought they were building and developing with a couple

537
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: to three years left of Draymond, Clay and Steph hasn't

538
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: really worked. And so that's the biggest problem for the

539
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: Warriors is like these guys who they expected to be

540
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: great haven't been great.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you want my statement, I would just I

542
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: would just say that while I think the Lakers are

543
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: deeper than they've been given credit for, I still think

544
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are the overall deeper team Nuggets.

545
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Speaker 2: You guys are both on the Nuggets, then, clearcut, you

546
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: both think the Nuggets.

547
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Speaker 1: When here's what I was going to say. We're summarizing here,

548
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: Maria and Matt both on the Nuggets. Matt definitively on

549
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: the Nuggets at minus one and a half, which is

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Speaker 1: basically saying.

551
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Speaker 5: He likes to wavering and Maria is.

552
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Wavering at the one and a half. But Matt is

553
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: officially in the Nuggets minus one and a half camp.

554
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: He's against narrative for the media and he's against anybody

555
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: being interested in what happens once the Lakers are out

556
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, all right, Conference Finals, Celtics in the Heat.

557
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: Third time in four years Celtis went to the finals.

558
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Once Heat went to the final. Once the Spolstra Eric

559
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: Spolstra legend continues to grow. And look this guy, he

560
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: gets this job. Everyone thinks he's sort of in there

561
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: and pat Riley is pulling the strings and he's a

562
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Riley puppet. Then he gets Lebron and d Wade and

563
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Chris Bosh. I tend to believe he handled that beautifully,

564
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: and it was not an easy situation. It was Phil

565
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Jackson asking the way he handled talent. Not easy to

566
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: win a title with those players, even if everyone thinks

567
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: you're supposed to win the title. I feel like he

568
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: has proved in the last decade he's one of the

569
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Speaker 1: best coaches in NBA history. If any team as an

570
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: eight seed can beat up on a Celtics team that

571
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: is so inconsistent and I think is streaky and also

572
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: emotional and still figuring out who they are and how

573
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: to play. It's Derek Spolstra, Maria agree or disagree.

574
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Definitely agree, And I don't even care that my emotions

575
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: are in this one.

576
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Speaker 5: I just adore Jimmy Butler. I'm obsessed with him. He

577
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: is so fun to watch.

578
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Speaker 3: Like I think Spolstra is a mastermind, and I think

579
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: the Celtics are the better team on paper, but there's

580
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Speaker 3: something about the mystique and there's something about understanding that

581
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Speaker 3: there is a coaching disadvantage for the Celtics, and like

582
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Speaker 3: the Heat have a chance and they've been very good,

583
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: you know against the spread, six and two this postseason,

584
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: five and three straight up as underdogs in these playoffs.

585
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Speaker 3: I know the Celtics are a different animal than you know,

586
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: the Bucks without a one, Giannis and the Knicks.

587
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Speaker 5: But I'm just gonna have a little.

588
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: Fun here, Like this should be fun, and I just

589
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: I want to bet the Heat and I want to

590
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: rook for the Heat. I'm not gonna put a lot

591
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: of money on it, but that's what I want to

592
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: see happen.

593
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Speaker 5: And I think I'm gonna probably.

594
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Speaker 3: Take a similar approach where I just don't see the

595
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: Celtics losing Game one again, Like if they don't. If

596
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: they didn't learn from the Game one loss to Philly

597
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: in the last series, then that would be insane.

598
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 5: So like, I don't think they're gonna win.

599
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't think they're gonna lose Game one,

600
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: and therefore I'll probably bet the Heat after.

601
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Speaker 1: That, uh Ria making emotional bets, which is totally fine.

602
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm look, I desperately want the Heat to win this

603
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: just because I love this team. I love the culture,

604
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I love the grit and grind. I think they're awesome.

605
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Matt Moore is here to uh burst our balloon our.

606
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: Well.

607
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Speaker 4: First off, I'll say, Chad, if you're we're gonna do

608
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: the you want the best thing for the media, then

609
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: you want Laker Celtics.

610
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Speaker 6: My man, that's what you want, because.

611
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm not going to get it, so

612
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: You've already be taken that from me. I'm just gonna

613
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: go for whatever I love.

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00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 6: For Maria if you want to bet that way.

615
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler three six five plus four to fifty Eastern

616
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: Conference Finals MVP if the Heat win the series. Is

617
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Speaker 4: there any scenario in which the Heat win the series

618
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Speaker 4: and Jimmy's not MVP?

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Speaker 6: No, there's not.

620
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Speaker 4: I actually hit My best bet for the series is

621
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: Heat plus two and a half. He get minus one

622
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: forty at the three six five, because the Celtics are

623
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: gonna screw around twice. That's what they're gonna do. They

624
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: screw around twice. Every series. They screwed around three times.

625
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: Last series, they screwed around twice versus the Hawks. Do

626
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: we think the Hawks take more games off of the

627
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Speaker 4: Celtics than the Heat do? No?

628
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Speaker 6: Come on?

629
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Speaker 4: So I like plus two and a half here. I

630
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: actually disagree with Maria because I absolutely think that the

631
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Speaker 4: Heat are gonna win Game one. Team's coming off of

632
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Speaker 4: a game seven win teams coming off of a Game

633
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Speaker 4: seven in the next round at home just eleven and

634
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: thirteen straight up in the overall numbers when they're not

635
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: including the away games much worse, and they tend to

636
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: lose those series, by the way. But I don't think

637
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: the Celtics lose this series. I like Heat plus two

638
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: and a half. I actually think Heat go up to one.

639
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping for. If I'm right on that path,

640
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna get a great price on Celtics to win

641
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: the series, and we'll come back on that because this

642
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: Heat team is adorable. They are so adorable, like, look

643
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: at you. You shot sixty percent or better EFG versus

644
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: the Bucks without Yannis, and then you faced a fraudulent

645
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: Knicks team that should have lost the Cavs if JB.

646
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: Bickerstaff could coach his way out of a box golf

647
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: clapp for you. They're not an actual contender. They were

648
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: in an actual contenter all year.

649
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 6: They don't have the depth.

650
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: They lost Victor Oladipo, Jimmy's got a bad ankle. They're

651
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: not winning the series. They are going to take two

652
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: games off the Celtics because the Celtics screw around. So

653
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: let's take Celtics. Let's say Heat plus two and a

654
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: half and then come back on Celtics once they go

655
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: down the series to once again worm their way out

656
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: of the series and make the finals.

657
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: Well, look, it has to be as a Sixers fan,

658
00:33:53,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: simon infuriating to watch the Celtics because they are a

659
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: team that can go from blowing it and not looking

660
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: like they belong anywhere close to the Eastern Conference semi

661
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: finals or finals, to a team that has top five talent,

662
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, across the board in multiple positions, So that's tough.

663
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's as interesting though, like I think the

664
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Celtics at one point were minus four fifty or minus

665
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: five hundred against the Sixers and that series price, and

666
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: now they're the same exact price against this Heat team.

667
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's interesting. The book maker is really not

668
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: that they overvalue the Celtics, but it feels that way

669
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: like that that series went to seven with the Sixers.

670
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: And one of the stupidest things I've seen online so

671
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: far was ESPN their analytics department put out a stat

672
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: that they gave the Sixers a ninety seven percent chance,

673
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: the Celtics a ninety seven percent chance to beat the Heat,

674
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: so they gave the Heat a three percent chance of

675
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: winning this series. I wish they owned a sports book. ESPN,

676
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: please give me thirty to one on the Heat just

677
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: to win this the dumbest thing I've seen so to me,

678
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: Jimmy is what we love about basketball. Right. You can

679
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: have a team, but if you have a guy like

680
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, it's the same thing as Lebron James you

681
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: talked about. It's that winning the guys around you, right,

682
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: it's getting them to believe the heat of lost players. Right,

683
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: They've had their own injuries throughout these playoffs, but here

684
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: they are. They keep moving on. And it's the same

685
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: thing with the Celtics. They just they feel a little

686
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: bit like the Sixers team. They feel like they're a

687
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: little bit mentally weak, right, and if anyone in the

688
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: sixties could have stepped up, especially that Game six. I mean,

689
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: I don't think Tatum hit a shot until that fourth

690
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: quarter of that Game six. Like that game was there

691
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: for the Sixers. Jimmy Butler's not gonna let those kind

692
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: of games get away. So I've seen the pictures of

693
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy's ankle. That's probably my biggest hesitation is this guy's

694
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: ankle is literally a basketball. It is so blown up.

695
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen him walk in the stadium just

696
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: last couple of games. He has that a little bit

697
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: of a limp where they're like, oh, that's a swag limp.

698
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: And then you've seen him without a socler You're like, no,

699
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: that's a guy. They're probably a broken ankle. So to me,

700
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: the Celtics they are kind of getting the gift here,

701
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: But I like, what not the series price? I think

702
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: that's that's that is a bit much like, as much

703
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: as I love to take them Heat, the Heat at

704
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: plus three hundred plus four hundred to win the series,

705
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: you know that's a bit rich to me. So yeah,

706
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: plus two and a half for the series price, that's

707
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: a really good price. I mean, minus one forty, that's

708
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: that's a nice number. So to me, that feels like

709
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: that's the smart bet right now for this series, taking

710
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: the Heat plus two and a half. I just I

711
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: can easily see this going six because we've seen a

712
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: Timeta against Celtic at home, they just don't play well.

713
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: They're better on their road for some reason, they play

714
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: at home in these playoff games and they just let down,

715
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: they let teams back in. And we've seen the Heat

716
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: go on the road in multiple series now win games.

717
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: So plus two and a half I'll take that bet.

718
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: Matt. I feel like you're discounting the quality of the

719
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: coaching for the Heat when you say, oh, isn't acute

720
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: in a very rude way about how they beat Yannis

721
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: list Bucks team and they beat a heartless Knicks team, Uh,

722
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: which to me, they beat the Knicks because they're better coached,

723
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: and that to me is the magic of the heat

724
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: is that they're the the sun is so much better

725
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: than the parts for them, right, and you're not being

726
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: very respectful of that.

727
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Well, I think look, with Greg Popovich having moved to

728
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: like a rebuilding phase in his career, suppose the best

729
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 4: coach in the league people were talking about like Tylou

730
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: and Nick Nurse, get out of here. Those guys are

731
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: not in sposed class. Come on, like, it's spo. It's

732
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: definitely SPO and Spoe versus as the action Slack started

733
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 4: calling him Joe Mozzarella, as that matchup is absolutely massive.

734
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: That is a massive It's not even it's not even

735
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: a conversation.

736
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's But how many points a game do.

737
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: You think coaching is worth in the NBA? In this

738
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: scenario in the Eastern Conference finals?

739
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: The smart people tell me that the big key here

740
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: is that good coaching gives you a small edge, great

741
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: coaching gives you a substantial edge, and bad coaching gives

742
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: you a massive deficit disadvantage. And from that, like that's

743
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: probably worth I don't know, I would say, like, honestly,

744
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 4: it's probably worth two points in the series just based

745
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: off of that because of how good they are, Like

746
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about some of these players and how

747
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: they're evaluated on the spread. I think you got to

748
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: figure the difference between those because I don't think Mass

749
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: is that good, like a lot of people don't, so

750
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: that gap has to be significant. It's you know, what

751
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: Spoe gives you plus what Mass takes away at the

752
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: same time like that, Like I said, I think the

753
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: heater gonna make this a series.

754
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be competitive.

755
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: But for all the talk about like this is what

756
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler does, he wins except last year when they

757
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: face the same Celtics team and he lost, Like, come.

758
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: On that they should have won that game. They got

759
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: absolutely hosed.

760
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 6: But they definitely but they didn't.

761
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: This is a worse Celtics team. It's also a worst

762
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: Heat team like it.

763
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: I agree with that. I agree with that.

764
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: But they easily easily, Like yeah, I get it, they lost.

765
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: They easily could have been in the finals last year, like.

766
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: The conference finals once out of the last four years,

767
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: but he hasn't.

768
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: It's not the same.

769
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: I want to I want us to get to the

770
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: w NBA. But I have one more question for you, Matt,

771
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: which is when you watch a ton of film on this.

772
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: What makes Posts so good as a coach.

773
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: So a lot of it is that he doesn't approach

774
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 4: things from a very as linear as some guys do.

775
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: What I mean by that is, Okay, this is a weakness.

776
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: Let's attack this weakness over and over and over again.

777
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: You do that enough times and you can make a

778
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: team adjust. But if you attack them in different ways,

779
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: you will present such an overall problem for them that

780
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: it winds up causing like, well, we can't just do

781
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 4: this one thing. We can't fix this one problem and

782
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: adjust it were if we do that, Supoe's going to

783
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: hit us with these other things He's already shown us.

784
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: He throws zone out there, he throw Their coverages are

785
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 4: so diverse. Defensively, they will hit you with zone, they'll

786
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: hit you with switches, they'll hit you with drop, they

787
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: will play to what their understanding of personnel. The detail

788
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: that he brings in all those is absolutely massive. Offensively,

789
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: a lot of it is like look, a lot of

790
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: it is honestly just like, let's give Jimmy the ball

791
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: and let him go to work. But offensively, the other

792
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: thing is he is able to tailor whatever it is

793
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: that they need to the opponent's weaknesses. If they don't

794
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: have rim protection, they're gonna create cuts inside. If they

795
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: give up a lot of threes, He's gonna tell non

796
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: like inconsistent shooters to bomb away because it gives them

797
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: the biggest edge in terms of the percentage chances. He

798
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 4: finds all of those small edges that you need, and

799
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: he takes advantage of him. If this sounds like simple stuff,

800
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: it's because so many coaches screw it up. They don't

801
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: take advantage of what of the advantages that they have

802
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: in a series, the weaknesses of the opponent, And the

803
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: other thing is like they need it. You have to

804
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: trust your players. Spow trust Jimmy Butler. He knows he's

805
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: got to do that. He empowers them to do. They

806
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: learn that from the time with Dwayne Wade and Lebron

807
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: and that gives them a huge advantage in terms of

808
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: keeping those guys connected with the game plan.

809
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: I think you.

810
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: Touched on something interesting there, and that is I think

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: Spoe and Jimmy are brilliant together. They're both good at

812
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: adapting to one another and understanding what the other needs.

813
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: And Jimmy, because of his health, he's picked his spots

814
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: so well, he'll take time, you know, take games where

815
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: he'll go off and score.

816
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: He'll take times.

817
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: Where he will back off and facilitate a little bit.

818
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: And Spoe is really good at balancing all of that

819
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 3: out and uh just sort of making up for whatever

820
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: he's getting from Jimmy, just making up for it in

821
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: other places.

822
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Uh, Simon, I feel like Spoe is our Howie Roseman

823
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: NBA analog in that don't try to outthink it, just

824
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: do the smartest thing that's right in front of you,

825
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna work out.

826
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Okay. My favorite Spo moment, this will be really quick,

827
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: will be last year and Jimmy Butler wanted to fight

828
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: him on the bench. You remember that. Yeah, he was

829
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: like fight me and Spoe this look of like this

830
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: motherfucker is so crazy like and he didn't back down

831
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: though he stood right there. I'd love that there's moments

832
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: where this is why you need guys like Spoe. Right, Yes,

833
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Spoe might be a little nerd, but he's talk of shit.

834
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: You can tell he's he's grinding for everything he's earned

835
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: in life. So again, players they look in respect to

836
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: those kind of guys. So you just see that him

837
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: and Jimmy have been in these battles, these wars together.

838
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: That's huge growth. Where the opposite side, this Celtic coach,

839
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: the dude's my age, he's like thirty three, thirty four.

840
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: He's got no experience, and there's a couple of times

841
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: he looked like a deer in headlights, not making adjustments

842
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: and other things. So to me, that heat coaching advantage

843
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: that is going to be huge if they were able

844
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: to steal this series.

845
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that you should trust a fifty two year

846
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: old before a thirty four year old.

847
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: Facts.

848
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I also think too, again, how Miszoula relates to a

849
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum who's already been inconsistent. Not to take anything

850
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: away from how amazing he was in Game seven, but

851
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: if you look at his postseason performances, a lot of

852
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: times up and down Finals last year, struggled shooting the ball.

853
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: So that combination, once again with that inexperienced head coach,

854
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: that indecision at times in crunch time, that is something

855
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: to look for as well.

856
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's run through it. Maria is making a

857
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: bet at some point on the heat. She's also betting

858
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: on the Celtics to win Game one. Matt Moore is

859
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: betting on the Heat to win Game one, and his

860
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: favorite bet is Heat plus two and a half in

861
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: the series. All right, WNBA Las Vegas aces reigning champs

862
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: shortest odds to win the NBA title. They're at about

863
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: plus one point fifteen at the WNBA is now loaded.

864
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Speaker 1: You have to bet the WNBA our debut odds boost

865
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Speaker 1: on bet three sixty five. Bet three sixty five is

866
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Speaker 1: boosting the bets we like most each week, and this

867
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: is the first week we're trying it. Maria's title pick, Maria,

868
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: name it right now.

869
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: I do think the most realistic thing we see here

870
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: is the Liberty winning the title.

871
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: It's Maria's title pick is the New York Liberty. Bet

872
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: three sixty five has the best price in the market

873
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: at plus one thirty. They've moved it for us to

874
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: plus one fifty. If you want to make this bet

875
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: with us, the boosted price is live on bet three

876
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: sixty five right there under WNBA futures.

877
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: I was just having fun with with sleeper picks. I

878
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: put some down on the Mystics at plus fourteen hundred

879
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: is a little bit more of a long shot, which

880
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I told Matt about a couple weeks ago on the

881
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: Buckets Pod. I do think the most realistic thing we

882
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: see here is the Liberty winning the title. When I

883
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: saw that I could get this a little juice on

884
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: bet three six five, just a little bit, I was like, Oh,

885
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going to Liberty here. I put it

886
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: in this morning because we haven't seen repeat champion in

887
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: the WNBA for over twenty years. If there's any team

888
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: that can do it, it's the Aces. Don't get me wrong,

889
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: they're a very deep team. Both of these teams, their

890
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: rosters are unreal. I mean they just neither of them

891
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: really have any holes. But that being said, I like

892
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: this combination that we're seeing in the Liberty. I think

893
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: Branda Stewart is the best player in the world, so

894
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: she gets picked up by the Liberty. They also add

895
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: Courtney Vanderslout, who's been one of the best players in

896
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: the w as well for the past couple of years.

897
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: And they both have championship experience. So sometimes when you

898
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: look at a team that has never won, you say,

899
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: you know, what will what will happen when they get

900
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: to that spot. Well, now they have proven commodities in

901
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: their stars on the floor, as well as as their

902
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: coach in Sandy Brundello, who's also won, and both of

903
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: their bigs, so Stewie and John Paul Jones, who they

904
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: added via trade, can spread the floor.

905
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 5: So they're both like, let's see Stewie sixty four, John

906
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: Paul Jones is six to six.

907
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: They're both like thirty seven thirty eight percent from three

908
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: D which I love.

909
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 5: You have Slute and Sabrina Yinescu who was.

910
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: The number one pick in twenty twenty, and she is

911
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: a facilitating point guard but can also score. She can

912
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: she'll be able to play off the ball a little

913
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: bit more with Slute, Like, I just love this combination

914
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: that they have going on. Becky Hammond interestingly, has been

915
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: as she tends to be in the you know, in

916
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: the news as far as NBA head coaching vacancies.

917
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if that happens. I don't know if she.

918
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: Makes that jump this quickly after joining the w and

919
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: winning a championship in her debut season. But there is

920
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: some of that swirling around, and I wonder how that

921
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: affects the aces.

922
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: All Right, So this Friday begins the twenty seventh season

923
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: of the WNBA Maria mentioned the Buckets podcast, which is

924
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: our regular basketball betting podcast. It now features weekly WNBA shows.

925
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: Here's my favorite wa bettings WNBA betting story. When we

926
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: first launched Action in twenty eighteen and look for It's

927
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: been known that betters love the WNBA. Simon can confirm this.

928
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: But we had a WNBA Google sheet and it was

929
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: early in Actions Life, maybe maybe May of twenty eighteen,

930
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and somebody yells out what the fuck is going on?

931
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: And everybody in the office looks up, and somebody was

932
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: pissed because somebody had been fucking around in the WNBA

933
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: betting Google sheet and screwing with the models, and it

934
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: was getting everybody very heated. That's how intense betting on

935
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: the WNBA can be. Simon explain why betters love it.

936
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny from my own perspective. I was

937
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: one of those people where I grew up on Yukon right.

938
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: I just I watch a lot of women's college basketball.

939
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: But that's where it stopped, right because I wasn't Again,

940
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: this is before I was a better I didn't really

941
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: know much about the WNBA. And then it's literally my

942
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: first experience when I moved to Vegas for an entire

943
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: season was just tracking WNBA. So that was one of

944
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: those where the pros were all about it, but the

945
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: general public still really didn't know much about the WNBA.

946
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: Now fast forward to eleven years, Chad, we just talked

947
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: about the women's college basketball has never had higher ratings.

948
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: It outrated the men's basketball college basketball at one point,

949
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: and the women's league is expanding, right, They're already talking

950
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: about moving teams to Canada, now expanding to Canada. It's

951
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: just growing really quick. I still think thee don't understand

952
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: how big of an edge you can find betting WNBA.

953
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: And again, we have people here at the Action Network

954
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: that give out great content all season of stuff to

955
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: bet on. You can find a good edge in WNBA

956
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: just because the books they're willing to take your money. Right,

957
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: it's a lot of them trying to balance the books

958
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: because it's becoming a more Joe Schmoe goes home, he's

959
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: going to bet the WNBA. They used to not be

960
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: that way, used to only really be the pros. Now

961
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: it's really expanding. So it used to be if you

962
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: bet one hundred on WNBA, you kind of red flag

963
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: to a lot of these sports books, you're kind of

964
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: on their radar. Now you don't have to worry about

965
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: that people. You can really get good money down on

966
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: the WNBA. So to me, the pros have always been

967
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: on it. Football Me and chat joke all the time.

968
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: My goal is fifty five percent people, So if you

969
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: have pros out there that expect to hit eighty seventy

970
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: percent of the WNBA, that shows you how big of

971
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 2: an edge you can get betting it. Nowadays, the NBA

972
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: is just all ISOs, right, people complain about that all

973
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: the time. You don't get that WNBA. They actually move

974
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: the ball, they set picks. It's worth reading the articles

975
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: to learn about it because you could find huge edges

976
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: all summer. You don't need it, just bet baseball.

977
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Aces you mentioned Becky Hammond raining MVP

978
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Asia Wilson. Also Kelsey Plumb, who became a superstar during

979
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: the celebration for the Aces when they won and then

980
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: got married to former Raiders tight end Darren Waller.

981
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: And he no.

982
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Current Giants tight end. But the reason I say former

983
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: Raiders tight end is because she was throwing shade at

984
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Raiders coach Josh McDaniels after the Wedding the Liberty. Meanwhile,

985
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: a super team. You mentioned Jean Quaul Jones, You mentioned

986
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: Brionn Stewart, who Kevin Durant recruited to come join the

987
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: Liberty and then of course he got traded. But are

988
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: those other than Maria's bet three six ' five boost

989
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: to plus one p fifty on the Liberty to win title.

990
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: Matt Moore, those either of those teams your favorite win

991
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: total for the year in the WNBA.

992
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: No, I will type the Atlanta Dream over eighteen and

993
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 4: a half. That team really showed out last year. They're

994
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 4: under the radar. Simon kind of talked about it. One

995
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: of the reasons I think that the market is so

996
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 4: soft on WNBA is because there's kind of this stratification

997
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: of the There's like two teams that are typically elite

998
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: and they'll cover it at high rate. There's like two

999
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 4: teams below that or that are really good and they

1000
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: won't cover it high rates. They're kind of not fraudulent,

1001
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: but just like not as strong versus the number. And

1002
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: then like there's this mix of teams that are really

1003
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: always kind of behind and the dream of that for

1004
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: me last season where I was betting them pretty consistently

1005
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: because I saw what they were capable of and how

1006
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: they could kind of pull this off.

1007
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: The Dream's number, I think is really really soft here.

1008
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 4: There's an eighteen and a half, a nineteen and a

1009
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: half in the market when they won eighteen last year.

1010
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: They've improved, They've added significant upgrades across what they're able

1011
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 4: to bring. Alicia Gray I think is a huge upgrade

1012
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: for them. I think Ryan Howard is going to take

1013
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 4: a big step up for them this season as well.

1014
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 4: Her defense is absolutely amazing. The offense is where I'm

1015
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: gonna have a little bit of some concerns, but a

1016
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: lot of where I get to in WNBA also is

1017
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 4: three point variants. This team projects to shoot more threes

1018
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 4: this season.

1019
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 6: That to me is huge.

1020
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: You can find huge edges, huge edges in WNBA based.

1021
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 6: Off a three point volume. They are where the league was.

1022
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: The NBA was back in like twenty thirteen, where you're

1023
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: starting to see the emergence of the pace in Space era,

1024
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: but it hadn't really caught on as full yet. It's

1025
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 4: why I was on ACES from the minute Becky Hammond

1026
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: got hired because the first thing she said, Oppressor was like, yeah,

1027
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna shoot.

1028
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 6: More threes this year immediately, Like it was that simple.

1029
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: The only thing that was holding the Aces back was

1030
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: their three point volume, which is what makes the Malta here,

1031
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 4: yeah exactly, which is what makes these matchups so fascinating

1032
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: between those two super teams. But yeah, I think Atlanta

1033
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 4: Dream is a really soft number at eighteen and a half,

1034
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: nineteen and a half in the market. I think they're

1035
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: gonna be really good this year.

1036
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: What about you, Maria, So I'm gonna give you a

1037
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: total that I like. But just to Simon's point about

1038
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: sort of this sweet spot that we're in right now

1039
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: with the WNBA, I mean, this is the first season

1040
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 3: that I can see where, you know, across the board

1041
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: sportsbooks have.

1042
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: Win totals like I didn't.

1043
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't bet this last year, and so it's it's

1044
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: it's new, it's still niche enough, and to your point, like,

1045
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: oh god, I don't want to bet baseball like ever,

1046
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: and I'm just a hoops I'm just a hoops junkie.

1047
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: I like basketball, so and like this is it's so

1048
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: much easier, Like a forty game season is great. I mean,

1049
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: this isn't like the NBA where half the games don't matter,

1050
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: Like forty games, it's like the perfect amount of time.

1051
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: I like the time of year, it's in the summer,

1052
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: like it's just it's just so fun. And you know,

1053
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: there are some principles if you like betting NBA, you

1054
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: can certainly apply them to WNBA, But as far as

1055
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: a total is concerned, and I sort of tease this

1056
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: before about like the Mystics maybe being a sleeper you

1057
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: can get really good value on them to win a championship.

1058
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: They have Elena Della Don who is a former MVP,

1059
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: and she really hasn't been healthy the last couple of years.

1060
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: So like last year she only played twenty five games.

1061
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: Now is a thirty six game season. Last year, it's

1062
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: very important. And the Mystics went twenty two and fourteen.

1063
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 3: They're total this year is twenty four and a half.

1064
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: So if she's playing more and traveling more, I think

1065
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 3: they can win two or three more games. So that's

1066
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: a really good example, like you want to look at that,

1067
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: And so I like them for a total, And it's

1068
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: like the information is if you know where to find it,

1069
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: you can you can definitely get an edge, but it

1070
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 3: and it is there. I mean when I first started

1071
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: covering WNBA in twenty eighteen, and there was nothing. I'm

1072
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: telling you, there were like two WNBA writers that I

1073
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: knew of. It was so hard to just even find

1074
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: who's on the injury report. In this like five year span,

1075
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: it's just gotten better and better and better, so you

1076
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: can find the information.

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00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: It's not going to be plastered everywhere like it is.

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00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 3: In the NBA, and that's where you get the edge.

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it's the beauty is there's a limited number

1080
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: of games. Every game has a level of intensity. The

1081
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: quality of play is unbelievable. It's great to see in person.

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: Don't forget go to game time. Find tickets near you.

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00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: So Maria clearly is in love with the Mystics because

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00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: she likes them as a long shot and she likes

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00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: their win total. Matt is going with Atlanta. How about

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00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: for both of you MVP first, Maria, give me your MVP.

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm gonna blow your mind right now.

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00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: Chelsea Gray is on the Aces. She was the Finals

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: MVP last year. She had a historic postseason.

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00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 8: She averaged like twenty two points seven assists, fifty four

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 8: percent from three a true shooting percentage of seventy two

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00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 8: percent sixty one percent from the floor.

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: She has plus ten thousand to bet the WMBA MVP,

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: and I bet on.

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 5: That what what what?

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: What do you?

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00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 5: What do you been giving me that phase?

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00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 4: Formatt, because here's my three five last year in the

1100
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 4: regular season, I'm forty six percent thirty eight. She had

1101
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: a great, great, great, great, great great series.

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 6: For sure.

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00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: No way, no way, that is what that is why

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00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: she's such long uns. It's true, right, so what so what?

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00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 5: Okay? But put a sprinkle on that number.

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00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: By the way, Matt, give us someone better.

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 6: You're so smart, Ellen Deleadon, I already.

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: Bet dele don just to be sick, just to be fair,

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00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: I bet delea Don as well.

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00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, well, can I just finish my point

1111
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 5: real quick?

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: Because my whole thing is like, we expect Aces and

1113
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: Liberty to be the two best teams, and usually the

1114
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: MVP is on one of the.

1115
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 5: Two best teams.

1116
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: And again at those odds, like Chelsea Gray has turned

1117
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: a corner where she kind of showed that when the

1118
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: Aces were playing their best, she was the the you know,

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: the lame phrase, the straw that theres a drink or

1120
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: whatever like that was her So sorry, Matt Well, I.

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00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 6: Would just say, here's the thing.

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00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: Having covered so many annoying super teams in the NBA,

1123
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: one of the things that we see consistently is the

1124
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: MVP value is not really there.

1125
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 6: The reason is like their usage gets distributed.

1126
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: And now that that Aces team last year could have

1127
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 4: qualified a super team on its own with the kind

1128
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: of talent that they had. Yes, they're out in Canadas

1129
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: now right, so like the usage is going to be

1130
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: even more kind of distributed down like they's still there.

1131
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: You have to factor in what kind of numbers can

1132
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: they put up, Like you want WNBA to be, you

1133
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 4: want MVPs and basketball to be on teams players with

1134
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: high usage, they have to put up big numbers to

1135
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 4: keep their teams afloat that can do it to win games.

1136
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: One of the reasons that that Stewie has won so

1137
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: many is, yeah, she definitely had some help out there

1138
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: in Seattle, but she was by far and away, like

1139
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: the reason. And on both of these teams, I think

1140
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: they've got so much help that it's going to be

1141
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 4: distributed across. They're going to be able to hit you

1142
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: from so many angles. I don't see but much value

1143
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 4: on the players on Aces or Liberty to win WNBA MVP.

1144
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 6: I do love Deldon though.

1145
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 4: Plus six hundred and six to one for a beast

1146
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: that's going to put up big numbers, she's still dominant

1147
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 4: to me, that's the best value on the board.

1148
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: To be clear, Like again, I did put I did

1149
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: put money on Deladan. But you said it last year

1150
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: the Aces essentially were a super team already. Yeah, they

1151
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: add Candas, they add Alicia Clark, you know, lose Dereka

1152
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: hanby whatever. We had that argument last year who's the MVP,

1153
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Asia or Stewie, And it didn't hurt Asia's argument that

1154
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: she was on the Aces and she had a lot

1155
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: of help. She still was the MVP. That's all I'm saying.

1156
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: What about birth Ya of the Year.

1157
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: So Rookie of the Year, I think it's Diamond Miller

1158
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: for the Links at like plus three ten or so.

1159
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: I believe because the thing, you know, Simon, you touched

1160
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: on it too. How the league needs to expand We

1161
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: only got twelve teams, We only have one hundred and

1162
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: forty four or fewer roster spots because a lot of

1163
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: these teams are fighting salary caps that a lot of

1164
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: times they can only fit like eleven players. It's wild

1165
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: you have first round draft picks that aren't making rosters.

1166
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: So you really have to look closely at like not

1167
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: only who's gonna make the team, but who's actually gonna

1168
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: play and get minutes. And so I look at Diamond Miller,

1169
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: who was number two pick, and she like, she's already played.

1170
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: She started, she's starting the preseason games, she's getting on

1171
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: the floor, she's being productive. Like you again to your point,

1172
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 3: Matt about usage, like you need a rookie that is

1173
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: actually going to play now.

1174
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 5: Aliah Boston was the was the top pick in the draft,

1175
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 5: but she's playing for the Fever.

1176
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: The Fever were horrible last year, mainly because they're full

1177
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: of rookies, Like they're still gonna probably be the worst

1178
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: team in the league.

1179
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 5: And so I wonder if that.

1180
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: Hurts her, you know, overall chances and the Links have

1181
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: produced a couple of Rookies of the Year in recent

1182
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: years with if he's a Collier in Crystal Dangerfield and.

1183
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 5: So I just I feel like she is.

1184
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of a safe ish play, like it's not

1185
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: like she's you know, it's not like crazy value or anything,

1186
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: but like she's gonna play, so that right there is

1187
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: good enough for me. But I do think you need

1188
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: to monitor this a little bit. Final rosters are due

1189
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: Thursday at five pm.

1190
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 5: And also just.

1191
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: Because you're your rookie that you like might not be

1192
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 3: on the team to start the season, there's a lot

1193
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: of movement, so like kind of kind of pay attention

1194
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: because you know, rookies float around a lot.

1195
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: The attention people by the way. That's but that's the

1196
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: theme for betting the WNBA. It's like that there's information

1197
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: to be had, but it's not as prevalent as NBA,

1198
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: so that's where the advantages are also to be had.

1199
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Matt Moore, do you have a favorite rookie of the

1200
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: year bet? Right now?

1201
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 6: It's too sharp.

1202
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: It's a Leah Boston look. In preseason, she's she's averaging.

1203
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: She had eight and eight and she played no more

1204
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: than eighteen minutes, Like she's going to have so many

1205
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: scoring opportunities. I just think she's going to put a

1206
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: bigger numbers and that's what typically tends to win.

1207
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: I will I.

1208
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: Will cop to not have done enough research on Rookie

1209
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 4: of the Year for WNBA to know whether or not

1210
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: win percentage just factored in. I can only go off

1211
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 4: of like what we've seen in the other sports, not

1212
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: just NBA but the other sports. But generally speaking, rookies

1213
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 4: get a pass on how good their team is. So

1214
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: even though the fever are going to be truly awful,

1215
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: just truly terrible this year, I do think that Allah

1216
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 4: will play up very good numbers, but she's minus two fifty.

1217
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to lay two to fifty on a

1218
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 4: WNBA rookie of the year. I just there's not enough

1219
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: minutes usage, et cetera to go around. So I think

1220
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 4: Elia doesn't project as strongly as some of the other

1221
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 4: dominant ones we've seen. So I want to stay away

1222
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: from the market. But if I have were to bet,

1223
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: I just lay the two to fifty on a lee

1224
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: of b Austin.

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01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,920
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