1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,977 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,337 --> 00:00:27,297 Speaker 2: Is Trump's plan for Maragazo or the Palestinian Riviera or whatever? 5 00:00:27,297 --> 00:00:30,737 Speaker 3: We're gonna call it crazy like a fox? 6 00:00:31,097 --> 00:00:33,777 Speaker 2: Well, we've got a very smart fellow to join us 7 00:00:33,817 --> 00:00:36,777 Speaker 2: here to talk about it, our friend David Harsanyi, senior 8 00:00:37,457 --> 00:00:42,137 Speaker 2: writer at The Washington Examiner. David, say, so, I want 9 00:00:42,137 --> 00:00:43,657 Speaker 2: to throw this premise out there. I mean, I could 10 00:00:43,697 --> 00:00:45,097 Speaker 2: just ask you, what do you think about Trump's that 11 00:00:45,137 --> 00:00:48,537 Speaker 2: on Gaza. We both know it's not a fully formulated 12 00:00:48,577 --> 00:00:51,257 Speaker 2: plan by any means. Trump could walk away from it. 13 00:00:51,697 --> 00:00:54,497 Speaker 2: And you know, of course the usual suspects are freaking 14 00:00:54,497 --> 00:00:57,057 Speaker 2: out about it. Other people are saying, calm down. Here's 15 00:00:57,097 --> 00:00:59,697 Speaker 2: what I would say. Whatever the plan has been for 16 00:00:59,817 --> 00:01:03,257 Speaker 2: Gaza has been a disaster for twenty years, So. 17 00:01:03,577 --> 00:01:04,377 Speaker 3: Should we should? 18 00:01:04,417 --> 00:01:07,737 Speaker 2: Can we open up the conversation to not just letting 19 00:01:07,737 --> 00:01:11,377 Speaker 2: it be the hamas terror plat form once again? 20 00:01:13,577 --> 00:01:16,177 Speaker 1: I guess I was preface this by saying, yeah, I 21 00:01:16,217 --> 00:01:18,417 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen in the way he 22 00:01:18,497 --> 00:01:21,777 Speaker 1: laid it out. Riviera to the sea. Probably not, But 23 00:01:22,697 --> 00:01:27,177 Speaker 1: I think it's a completely good that it's a good, 24 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:30,977 Speaker 1: not only a good plan, but historically perfectly acceptable plan, 25 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:34,017 Speaker 1: not ethnic cleansing or anything like that, you know, not 26 00:01:34,057 --> 00:01:36,537 Speaker 1: to get two into the weeds. But the Gazans themselves 27 00:01:36,537 --> 00:01:40,137 Speaker 1: say they're refugees. They live in supposed you know, refugee 28 00:01:40,137 --> 00:01:43,377 Speaker 1: camps that are cities for seventy years. Supposedly they're waiting 29 00:01:43,417 --> 00:01:46,857 Speaker 1: to go back to Jaffa, Jerusalem and all these places. 30 00:01:47,137 --> 00:01:49,657 Speaker 1: If they're refugees, which they are, because in nineteen forty 31 00:01:49,657 --> 00:01:51,857 Speaker 1: eight there were like ten thousand people or you know, 32 00:01:51,897 --> 00:01:54,297 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people in Gaza, Then why can't they be 33 00:01:54,377 --> 00:01:57,097 Speaker 1: refugees in Jordan? Why can't they be refugees in Egypt 34 00:01:57,297 --> 00:02:01,857 Speaker 1: or Qatar or Saudi Arabia or wherever. Trump is completely 35 00:02:03,257 --> 00:02:07,737 Speaker 1: right to demand that were asked that other people take 36 00:02:07,857 --> 00:02:12,377 Speaker 1: these immigrant refugees of war. Europe took a million Syrians 37 00:02:12,457 --> 00:02:15,217 Speaker 1: in after the seriance of the war anyway, So I 38 00:02:15,217 --> 00:02:20,937 Speaker 1: think that that's a completely rational thing to say, Well, 39 00:02:20,977 --> 00:02:22,857 Speaker 1: it happened. I don't know, And I think he's just 40 00:02:22,897 --> 00:02:25,217 Speaker 1: trying to really pressure these other countries to do something. 41 00:02:25,257 --> 00:02:26,137 Speaker 1: We'll see if that happens. 42 00:02:26,217 --> 00:02:28,817 Speaker 2: See, that's your negotiation tactic. Part of it that I'm 43 00:02:28,897 --> 00:02:31,337 Speaker 2: like makes a lot of sense to me, which is 44 00:02:31,377 --> 00:02:35,057 Speaker 2: it kind of forces the Gulf States, Saudi. The usual 45 00:02:35,097 --> 00:02:37,657 Speaker 2: suspects have to be like no, no, no, no, you know 46 00:02:37,857 --> 00:02:40,617 Speaker 2: you can't do that. That's not a good idea. Okay, 47 00:02:40,857 --> 00:02:42,497 Speaker 2: what are you guys doing about it? 48 00:02:43,617 --> 00:02:49,257 Speaker 1: Well, they created this problem, They created this ethnicity, this ideology, 49 00:02:49,617 --> 00:02:52,217 Speaker 1: you know, after nineteen forty eight, they created it, all 50 00:02:52,257 --> 00:02:54,377 Speaker 1: these people and they don't you know, and now they 51 00:02:54,377 --> 00:02:56,737 Speaker 1: don't want The truth is they don't want Palestinians in 52 00:02:56,777 --> 00:02:59,897 Speaker 1: their country because it's problems. It's problems for Lebanon, problems 53 00:02:59,897 --> 00:03:02,177 Speaker 1: for Jordan, problems for Egypt. So I don't know what's 54 00:03:02,217 --> 00:03:04,577 Speaker 1: going to happen, but I don't see why. I don't 55 00:03:04,577 --> 00:03:06,657 Speaker 1: think it's a moral to let these people at least 56 00:03:07,017 --> 00:03:08,577 Speaker 1: if you ask them, do you want to leave? Do 57 00:03:08,617 --> 00:03:10,337 Speaker 1: you want to go to a safer place? You want 58 00:03:10,337 --> 00:03:12,937 Speaker 1: to continue to be martyrs for Hamas? Now maybe they're 59 00:03:12,937 --> 00:03:14,697 Speaker 1: pro Hamas, but I bet you a lot of those 60 00:03:14,697 --> 00:03:17,097 Speaker 1: people will leave. I bet you fifty percent of those 61 00:03:17,097 --> 00:03:18,617 Speaker 1: people would leave if they could. 62 00:03:18,737 --> 00:03:21,737 Speaker 2: At least, you know, And I also wonder what is 63 00:03:22,017 --> 00:03:26,417 Speaker 2: you know, the usual you know MSNBC, you know Samanta 64 00:03:26,457 --> 00:03:28,697 Speaker 2: Power doing commentary or like whoever it is, like the 65 00:03:28,777 --> 00:03:31,777 Speaker 2: usual people from at Obama, Biden Access, Like, oh my gosh, 66 00:03:31,777 --> 00:03:35,257 Speaker 2: this is horrible. What do they think should happen? I mean, Gaza, 67 00:03:35,417 --> 00:03:37,777 Speaker 2: there's a lot of we've all been told and we've 68 00:03:37,777 --> 00:03:40,217 Speaker 2: seen the photos, a lot of rubble, a lot of destruction. 69 00:03:41,657 --> 00:03:41,857 Speaker 3: You know. 70 00:03:42,137 --> 00:03:44,017 Speaker 2: One thing that I've said, and you know this makes 71 00:03:44,057 --> 00:03:45,897 Speaker 2: me very unpopular with some people, but I think I'm 72 00:03:45,937 --> 00:03:48,857 Speaker 2: just pointing out a historical reality for all of human history. 73 00:03:48,897 --> 00:03:51,297 Speaker 2: If you've started a war and lost the war, loss 74 00:03:51,297 --> 00:03:55,977 Speaker 2: of territory often happens, a loss of sovereignty, loss of 75 00:03:56,057 --> 00:03:58,377 Speaker 2: territory is like you start a war, you lose a war, 76 00:03:58,697 --> 00:04:03,097 Speaker 2: you know, then things happen. But obviously they reject that. 77 00:04:03,137 --> 00:04:06,817 Speaker 2: It's Palestinians the ultimate victims, the whole thing. What do 78 00:04:06,817 --> 00:04:08,977 Speaker 2: they think is supposed to happen? Like, what is the 79 00:04:09,057 --> 00:04:11,977 Speaker 2: acceptable Trump Land? That's what I want to know, Like, 80 00:04:11,977 --> 00:04:15,057 Speaker 2: what is supposed to happen according to the Democrats, the left, 81 00:04:15,097 --> 00:04:16,377 Speaker 2: you know CNN. 82 00:04:17,897 --> 00:04:21,257 Speaker 1: They want they want Israel to get Palestinians a state. 83 00:04:22,497 --> 00:04:24,577 Speaker 1: It's i mean, they're I've been losing sovereign territor. There's 84 00:04:24,617 --> 00:04:27,977 Speaker 1: never a country there, Palestinian country. There's no territory for them, 85 00:04:28,057 --> 00:04:30,937 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, obviously they lose territory and realistically, 86 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:34,057 Speaker 1: but there's no country there. It's disputed territory. Any autonomy 87 00:04:34,057 --> 00:04:36,417 Speaker 1: they had was given to them by Israel in the 88 00:04:36,417 --> 00:04:38,497 Speaker 1: first place. But yeah, they want a state like yeah, 89 00:04:38,737 --> 00:04:40,937 Speaker 1: just create a terror state right next to the next 90 00:04:41,017 --> 00:04:45,337 Speaker 1: next door that constantly attacks you. Reward them, Reward them 91 00:04:45,697 --> 00:04:49,777 Speaker 1: for the rape and murder of civilians that's been going 92 00:04:49,817 --> 00:04:53,497 Speaker 1: on since the fifties, not just now, you know, from 93 00:04:53,537 --> 00:04:55,977 Speaker 1: from Gaza, and reward them and giving them a state there. 94 00:04:55,977 --> 00:04:58,457 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they want, which is insane. No 95 00:04:58,457 --> 00:05:01,217 Speaker 1: no other country has ever done anything like that, nor 96 00:05:01,257 --> 00:05:04,257 Speaker 1: would anyone ever do that. We would not create a 97 00:05:04,377 --> 00:05:05,777 Speaker 1: terror state right on our board. 98 00:05:05,937 --> 00:05:07,617 Speaker 3: See to me, you've just laid out. 99 00:05:07,697 --> 00:05:09,217 Speaker 2: And this is what I thought was so interested when 100 00:05:09,257 --> 00:05:11,017 Speaker 2: Trump brought up, you know, people were having fun with 101 00:05:11,057 --> 00:05:12,937 Speaker 2: it and the memes, you know, like a Trump tower 102 00:05:12,977 --> 00:05:15,177 Speaker 2: on the on the edge of of Gaza and everything 103 00:05:15,177 --> 00:05:15,457 Speaker 2: else that. 104 00:05:15,617 --> 00:05:17,177 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the era we live in now. 105 00:05:17,217 --> 00:05:21,897 Speaker 2: Because of AI and and and X But it's interesting 106 00:05:21,897 --> 00:05:25,217 Speaker 2: people saying what Trump said is crazy. But I start 107 00:05:25,217 --> 00:05:27,337 Speaker 2: from the premise of what you just laid out, which 108 00:05:27,337 --> 00:05:31,017 Speaker 2: is what those people want, which is billions and billions 109 00:05:31,017 --> 00:05:35,057 Speaker 2: of dollars from the international community to rebuild infrastructure, which yes, 110 00:05:35,137 --> 00:05:37,897 Speaker 2: will be you know, buildings and and you know, uh 111 00:05:38,017 --> 00:05:42,417 Speaker 2: and and electricity and water again for these people, but 112 00:05:42,497 --> 00:05:45,537 Speaker 2: it will also turn into we all know you know, 113 00:05:45,937 --> 00:05:50,257 Speaker 2: you know, hardened facilities under hospitals and tunnel networks and missiles. 114 00:05:50,337 --> 00:05:53,537 Speaker 2: And that's insane, right, I mean, this would be like 115 00:05:53,577 --> 00:05:56,057 Speaker 2: we fire this would be like we fire bomb Tokyo 116 00:05:56,617 --> 00:05:58,897 Speaker 2: and then in the Second World War, and then afterwards 117 00:05:58,897 --> 00:06:01,737 Speaker 2: we're like, you know what we're gonna We're gonna, yeah, 118 00:06:01,737 --> 00:06:04,737 Speaker 2: we helped with Japan, but we're gonna rebuild Tokyo. But 119 00:06:04,737 --> 00:06:06,977 Speaker 2: we want the same people in charge. Right, We're gonna 120 00:06:07,017 --> 00:06:09,537 Speaker 2: like resurrect Yamamoto, Like we're gonna put the you know, 121 00:06:09,617 --> 00:06:13,497 Speaker 2: imperial Japan, the same regime with the same structure and 122 00:06:13,577 --> 00:06:16,497 Speaker 2: rebuild Tokyo for them. To me, this is completely insane. 123 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:19,817 Speaker 1: What you just said is perfect. Now, let's rebuild Germany 124 00:06:19,817 --> 00:06:22,497 Speaker 1: and then put the Nazi Party and back in power, 125 00:06:22,577 --> 00:06:25,777 Speaker 1: right or yes, let's rebuild. You know, same thing with Iraq. 126 00:06:25,857 --> 00:06:27,577 Speaker 1: You know we went you know, whatever you think of it, 127 00:06:27,617 --> 00:06:30,297 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't let I mean we didn't let 128 00:06:30,377 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 1: Sodom was saying to control again. 129 00:06:32,337 --> 00:06:32,497 Speaker 3: You know. 130 00:06:32,577 --> 00:06:35,457 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it doesn't make any sense. It 131 00:06:35,537 --> 00:06:38,657 Speaker 1: is crazy. There's no one on earth who would do this. 132 00:06:38,897 --> 00:06:42,337 Speaker 1: There's no whole the whole thing. Even the language we 133 00:06:42,417 --> 00:06:46,617 Speaker 1: used occupied territory from home West Bank. We don't call Judea, 134 00:06:46,737 --> 00:06:49,057 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like all the language tries 135 00:06:49,137 --> 00:06:52,497 Speaker 1: to create this inevitability of a Palestinian state. Well, I 136 00:06:52,497 --> 00:06:54,377 Speaker 1: hate to break to the people like seventy percent of 137 00:06:54,417 --> 00:06:57,457 Speaker 1: Israelis don't want it, and twenty percent of israel Our 138 00:06:57,497 --> 00:07:00,417 Speaker 1: are our citizens. So it's not going to happen. 139 00:07:00,857 --> 00:07:03,577 Speaker 2: Yeah, And to me, I think, so this is the 140 00:07:03,617 --> 00:07:06,537 Speaker 2: thing Trump. They say Trump is crazy, and I agree 141 00:07:06,537 --> 00:07:07,617 Speaker 2: to you. I don't think it's going to happen the 142 00:07:07,617 --> 00:07:10,417 Speaker 2: way that Trump is necessarily at it out. But changing 143 00:07:10,497 --> 00:07:13,217 Speaker 2: the paradigm or changing the basic structure about how we 144 00:07:13,257 --> 00:07:17,977 Speaker 2: talk about this, I think is actually it needs to happen. 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So, David 168 00:08:22,097 --> 00:08:27,017 Speaker 2: the the opposition to DOGE is so pathetic that it 169 00:08:27,097 --> 00:08:30,777 Speaker 2: feels weird to spend time for this is how I thought, 170 00:08:30,777 --> 00:08:33,737 Speaker 2: at least on radio about this. They're acting like Elon 171 00:08:33,857 --> 00:08:36,497 Speaker 2: Musk is gonna steal old ladies' social Security numbers to 172 00:08:36,577 --> 00:08:40,217 Speaker 2: run some kind of a scam. Like what when someone says, 173 00:08:40,617 --> 00:08:43,417 Speaker 2: we have found that the government is paying people on 174 00:08:43,457 --> 00:08:46,257 Speaker 2: a on a literal do not pay list, the Treasury 175 00:08:46,297 --> 00:08:49,177 Speaker 2: Department is paying people to the tune of billions of dollars. 176 00:08:49,337 --> 00:08:51,017 Speaker 2: Now they can say, oh, we'll prove it, or what 177 00:08:51,377 --> 00:08:53,257 Speaker 2: you know. I don't think Elon is just doing this 178 00:08:53,297 --> 00:08:55,577 Speaker 2: for his jollies and he's lying about this, right, But 179 00:08:55,617 --> 00:08:58,417 Speaker 2: when they say that and the response is do you 180 00:08:58,497 --> 00:09:01,497 Speaker 2: have the proper training to access this data? It starts 181 00:09:01,537 --> 00:09:03,937 Speaker 2: to make me think that they want this to continue, 182 00:09:04,017 --> 00:09:06,817 Speaker 2: even though it seems insane. What do you make of 183 00:09:06,857 --> 00:09:09,297 Speaker 2: what DOGE is doing in the opposition to it so far? 184 00:09:10,857 --> 00:09:13,217 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, it's it's a big topic. But I'd say 185 00:09:13,297 --> 00:09:15,937 Speaker 1: the first thing I think about is that for twenty 186 00:09:15,937 --> 00:09:18,337 Speaker 1: plus years I've been writing about politics, one of the 187 00:09:18,337 --> 00:09:23,097 Speaker 1: big topics has been the administrative state, and how unelected 188 00:09:23,217 --> 00:09:26,977 Speaker 1: bureaucrats run our lives. They don't govern us, They lord 189 00:09:27,057 --> 00:09:29,377 Speaker 1: over us and run our lives from our car starts. 190 00:09:29,377 --> 00:09:33,497 Speaker 1: Strust never heard a Democrat complain about the unelected nature 191 00:09:33,497 --> 00:09:36,937 Speaker 1: of that. And in fact, even when they lose elections, 192 00:09:36,977 --> 00:09:39,857 Speaker 1: they know that those huge bureaucracies are just going to 193 00:09:39,857 --> 00:09:42,337 Speaker 1: continue the left wing mission, right, So that's why they're 194 00:09:42,377 --> 00:09:45,097 Speaker 1: freaking out that you're going to gut these things or 195 00:09:45,177 --> 00:09:48,217 Speaker 1: you know, there's going to be transparency. And yeah, the 196 00:09:48,257 --> 00:09:51,617 Speaker 1: idea that Elon Musk is in there, in there, you know, 197 00:09:51,777 --> 00:09:54,777 Speaker 1: gathering social Security numbers so he could sell you a 198 00:09:54,857 --> 00:09:58,937 Speaker 1: tesla is ridiculous. The guys, the richest guy on it's counterintuitive, 199 00:09:58,977 --> 00:10:00,777 Speaker 1: But the richer you are, the less you actually need 200 00:10:00,857 --> 00:10:02,777 Speaker 1: to want to do things like that. I don't think 201 00:10:02,817 --> 00:10:05,857 Speaker 1: he's a corrupt person, and we have no at all, 202 00:10:06,057 --> 00:10:09,777 Speaker 1: zero evidence that that's true. So Democrats look right now 203 00:10:10,097 --> 00:10:14,457 Speaker 1: affeckless and aimless and weak than I've seen any party 204 00:10:14,497 --> 00:10:17,777 Speaker 1: in American politics looks, except maybe for the Republicans in 205 00:10:17,777 --> 00:10:18,937 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. 206 00:10:18,857 --> 00:10:22,097 Speaker 2: Right after the financial collapse and all the wars and everything, right, 207 00:10:22,217 --> 00:10:23,777 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only thing. 208 00:10:23,497 --> 00:10:25,337 Speaker 1: See how they come back from this, right, and we 209 00:10:25,377 --> 00:10:28,177 Speaker 1: don't have a legitimate opposition party right now. That doesn't 210 00:10:28,177 --> 00:10:30,057 Speaker 1: mean they can't win elections and stuff. But what is 211 00:10:30,097 --> 00:10:33,817 Speaker 1: their message here? We need to keep sending money for 212 00:10:33,897 --> 00:10:37,697 Speaker 1: Peruvian cross gender comic books. I mean, it's such a 213 00:10:37,697 --> 00:10:40,577 Speaker 1: bad message. No normy who moved from the Democrats the 214 00:10:40,617 --> 00:10:44,057 Speaker 1: Republicans in this last election cares about usaid at all. 215 00:10:44,057 --> 00:10:45,457 Speaker 1: They don't even know what it is. All they know 216 00:10:45,537 --> 00:10:46,217 Speaker 1: is that's waste. 217 00:10:46,297 --> 00:10:48,857 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they've almost fallen into a trap, David, 218 00:10:48,897 --> 00:10:53,177 Speaker 2: which is that this Trump, this Trump administration. It's different 219 00:10:53,177 --> 00:10:55,017 Speaker 2: than the first time around in twenty seventeen, when they 220 00:10:55,097 --> 00:10:56,977 Speaker 2: kind of went for some hot button issues that we're 221 00:10:57,017 --> 00:10:59,617 Speaker 2: going to be. This Trump administration came in and said, 222 00:10:59,817 --> 00:11:02,657 Speaker 2: let's just do the things that normal people think the 223 00:11:02,737 --> 00:11:05,697 Speaker 2: government should do, like let's tackle problems that a normal 224 00:11:05,737 --> 00:11:09,417 Speaker 2: person who's not overly ideological can recognize the problem. And 225 00:11:09,457 --> 00:11:12,897 Speaker 2: the Democrats are just reflexively freaking out about it. To me, 226 00:11:13,057 --> 00:11:15,297 Speaker 2: it's like we need more of this, We need more 227 00:11:15,337 --> 00:11:18,697 Speaker 2: of them telling people, let's not have the most impressive 228 00:11:18,697 --> 00:11:21,017 Speaker 2: CEO and the richest man in the world looking at 229 00:11:21,057 --> 00:11:24,457 Speaker 2: the Treasury Department's balance sheet and figuring out how to 230 00:11:24,457 --> 00:11:27,657 Speaker 2: give back hundreds of billions of dollars effectively to the taxpayer. 231 00:11:27,697 --> 00:11:30,377 Speaker 2: Like they're opposed to this, and I don't think they 232 00:11:30,457 --> 00:11:32,217 Speaker 2: understand how crazy that sounds. 233 00:11:32,297 --> 00:11:34,857 Speaker 1: I love when they say that's that thing only costs 234 00:11:34,897 --> 00:11:37,817 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty million dollars. You're not really saving anything, 235 00:11:37,857 --> 00:11:40,577 Speaker 1: you know, like to a normal person. I was talking 236 00:11:40,577 --> 00:11:43,777 Speaker 1: about this with someone recently. For normal person, the smaller 237 00:11:43,817 --> 00:11:46,457 Speaker 1: the number, the actually more real, it becomes like three 238 00:11:46,497 --> 00:11:48,377 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million and three hundred and fifty billion 239 00:11:48,377 --> 00:11:50,217 Speaker 1: to me are the same thing. Like it's beyond my 240 00:11:50,337 --> 00:11:52,577 Speaker 1: scope of understanding. But when you start talking about, oh, 241 00:11:52,577 --> 00:11:55,297 Speaker 1: they're sending one hundred thousand dollars to a peroving and 242 00:11:55,457 --> 00:11:58,297 Speaker 1: cross dress and comic book artists, that means something. It 243 00:11:58,297 --> 00:12:00,297 Speaker 1: means that the government is engaged in things that's not 244 00:12:00,297 --> 00:12:01,897 Speaker 1: supposed to be and people can understand it. 245 00:12:01,897 --> 00:12:02,577 Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. 246 00:12:02,817 --> 00:12:05,177 Speaker 2: By the way, I also think this is a very 247 00:12:05,217 --> 00:12:07,337 Speaker 2: good point. I might actually borrow this, David and talk 248 00:12:07,377 --> 00:12:09,057 Speaker 2: about this on the radio tomorrow. That's okay, it's a 249 00:12:09,097 --> 00:12:11,177 Speaker 2: very good point you make here. I'll be like my 250 00:12:11,217 --> 00:12:14,337 Speaker 2: friend David Harsani said on the podcast, which is that 251 00:12:14,457 --> 00:12:17,337 Speaker 2: when the number with some of this stuff we're seeing, like, 252 00:12:17,377 --> 00:12:18,857 Speaker 2: let's you know, you're talk about the hundred k to 253 00:12:18,897 --> 00:12:22,177 Speaker 2: the Peruvian transgender comic thing, right, people see this and 254 00:12:22,217 --> 00:12:24,937 Speaker 2: they go, oh, because that's such a small number and 255 00:12:25,057 --> 00:12:27,977 Speaker 2: so specific that it looks kind of like a payoff 256 00:12:28,137 --> 00:12:31,017 Speaker 2: or you know, it looks like graft. When you're talking 257 00:12:31,057 --> 00:12:35,537 Speaker 2: about a program that's thirty billion dollars. Yeah, we understand 258 00:12:35,577 --> 00:12:36,817 Speaker 2: that's a lot of money, but it's like, what is 259 00:12:36,857 --> 00:12:38,897 Speaker 2: it doing? And it's broad and it passes through a 260 00:12:38,897 --> 00:12:42,857 Speaker 2: lot of hands. But when some NGO with like four 261 00:12:42,937 --> 00:12:46,777 Speaker 2: employees who're all somehow making four or five hundred grand 262 00:12:46,817 --> 00:12:49,937 Speaker 2: or two hundred and fifty three hundred grand is getting 263 00:12:50,297 --> 00:12:52,497 Speaker 2: four million dollars from the government every year and no 264 00:12:52,497 --> 00:12:54,457 Speaker 2: one even knows what they do or how this happened. 265 00:12:54,657 --> 00:12:57,177 Speaker 2: You know, that's to anyone who's ever run a small 266 00:12:57,217 --> 00:12:59,697 Speaker 2: business or tried to just balance their own checkbook, They're like, 267 00:12:59,857 --> 00:13:02,017 Speaker 2: why are they getting four million dollars to just do 268 00:13:02,097 --> 00:13:03,937 Speaker 2: whatever they want from the taxpayer? 269 00:13:04,657 --> 00:13:07,657 Speaker 1: I mean, most normies in America could use one hundred 270 00:13:07,657 --> 00:13:10,897 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars right, like they can envision how 271 00:13:10,897 --> 00:13:13,497 Speaker 1: that changes their lives and how it makes their lives better. 272 00:13:13,777 --> 00:13:15,617 Speaker 1: And Democrats are just like, ah, that's not going to 273 00:13:15,657 --> 00:13:18,417 Speaker 1: really cut the deficit. Yeah, it's not because you guys 274 00:13:18,417 --> 00:13:20,977 Speaker 1: waste so much money on so many things. You know what, 275 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,737 Speaker 1: It's a good, good start, you know, let's keep doing it, 276 00:13:23,857 --> 00:13:24,137 Speaker 1: you know. 277 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:27,577 Speaker 2: Listenship, I think it's I think it's fantastic on your point. 278 00:13:27,657 --> 00:13:29,737 Speaker 2: But let's come back in sort of into the Democrat 279 00:13:29,737 --> 00:13:31,777 Speaker 2: opposition here in a second, because I think this is 280 00:13:31,817 --> 00:13:35,857 Speaker 2: where I keep I am. I always try to be 281 00:13:36,577 --> 00:13:39,057 Speaker 2: like pessimistic about the prospects of the right, but right 282 00:13:39,057 --> 00:13:41,777 Speaker 2: now I'm looking around and I just see so much 283 00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:44,897 Speaker 2: incompetence and and everything on the left. 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And this just keeps 311 00:15:02,097 --> 00:15:05,097 Speaker 2: happening and happening, and then Democrats what like, talk about 312 00:15:05,137 --> 00:15:08,057 Speaker 2: Obamacare for the midterms. I don't even I don't even 313 00:15:08,097 --> 00:15:10,657 Speaker 2: know who we're supposed to be arguing with right now now, David, 314 00:15:11,057 --> 00:15:13,297 Speaker 2: it's really more mockery. It's like what we're talking about 315 00:15:13,297 --> 00:15:16,897 Speaker 2: with DOJE. They want government to spend hundreds of billions 316 00:15:16,937 --> 00:15:19,697 Speaker 2: of dollars that are illegal or going into a black 317 00:15:19,697 --> 00:15:20,297 Speaker 2: hole somewhere. 318 00:15:20,297 --> 00:15:20,817 Speaker 3: It's nuts. 319 00:15:22,337 --> 00:15:26,217 Speaker 1: And also, you know this constitutional crisis talking point they have, 320 00:15:26,337 --> 00:15:29,217 Speaker 1: I mean, the truth of the matter is that they've 321 00:15:29,497 --> 00:15:31,057 Speaker 1: even if it were true, and I don't think it 322 00:15:31,137 --> 00:15:33,817 Speaker 1: is in this case, they have no credibility on that issue. 323 00:15:33,817 --> 00:15:37,217 Speaker 1: They've spent twenty years destroying separation of powers. They've have 324 00:15:37,457 --> 00:15:39,937 Speaker 1: presidents ignoring the Supreme Court left and right. So they 325 00:15:39,937 --> 00:15:42,457 Speaker 1: have no credibility on that and everyone knows it. I 326 00:15:42,617 --> 00:15:45,937 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like my main criticism of today's 327 00:15:45,937 --> 00:15:48,337 Speaker 1: Republican Party is that they've moved a little to the 328 00:15:48,457 --> 00:15:50,577 Speaker 1: far left, too far to the left for me on 329 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:54,457 Speaker 1: certain issues. Right, but so they've actually taken all the ground. 330 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:57,497 Speaker 1: I mean, someone was asking me, do I think that 331 00:15:57,577 --> 00:15:59,417 Speaker 1: if the that the Democrats are going to go back 332 00:15:59,457 --> 00:16:01,937 Speaker 1: to class warfare because all this kind of racialist stuff 333 00:16:01,977 --> 00:16:04,577 Speaker 1: hasn't worked. How can they actually go back? How are 334 00:16:04,577 --> 00:16:05,897 Speaker 1: they going to go back to that? I mean, I 335 00:16:05,937 --> 00:16:08,457 Speaker 1: think that the populist right has taken that issue. I 336 00:16:08,537 --> 00:16:11,137 Speaker 1: just don't even know where Democrats can really go unless 337 00:16:11,177 --> 00:16:13,857 Speaker 1: Trump does some you know, oversteps in some way that's 338 00:16:13,897 --> 00:16:17,337 Speaker 1: going to hurt you know, the economy or something like that, 339 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:19,457 Speaker 1: and you know, whatever that might could happen, could not. 340 00:16:19,777 --> 00:16:21,577 Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't really see what issue 341 00:16:21,617 --> 00:16:24,417 Speaker 1: they have, uh to even have onto it all. 342 00:16:24,497 --> 00:16:24,737 Speaker 3: I don't. 343 00:16:24,777 --> 00:16:27,457 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see it. So I don't 344 00:16:27,457 --> 00:16:29,617 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. But let's let's talk. You mentioned, 345 00:16:29,617 --> 00:16:31,577 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Obama two thousand and eight. 346 00:16:32,457 --> 00:16:35,257 Speaker 1: The Tea Party came in two years and ended Obama basically, 347 00:16:35,297 --> 00:16:37,497 Speaker 1: so you always have to be careful. Nothing lasts forever. 348 00:16:37,937 --> 00:16:40,337 Speaker 1: So in a sense, I'm happy that the Trump administration 349 00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:42,217 Speaker 1: the stuff they're doing with dose, which I actually like. 350 00:16:42,417 --> 00:16:44,337 Speaker 1: I'm happy that they're doing it so quickly and so 351 00:16:44,457 --> 00:16:47,377 Speaker 1: much before, you know, before there's some kind of backlash 352 00:16:47,417 --> 00:16:49,057 Speaker 1: or whatever. As much done as you can. 353 00:16:49,377 --> 00:16:50,697 Speaker 2: What are you going to write on this week? For 354 00:16:50,737 --> 00:16:53,217 Speaker 2: the Washington Examiner or maybe for next week for your column. 355 00:16:54,617 --> 00:16:59,417 Speaker 1: I just wrote on the constitutional, uh, the constitutional. 356 00:17:00,137 --> 00:17:03,257 Speaker 3: That they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crisis isdiculous. 357 00:17:03,377 --> 00:17:05,457 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean these judges, they have to be stopped. 358 00:17:05,457 --> 00:17:07,577 Speaker 1: Maybe we need reform. I wrote about that just now, 359 00:17:07,617 --> 00:17:08,857 Speaker 1: and the next thing'm going to write about it is 360 00:17:08,857 --> 00:17:11,457 Speaker 1: a little bit about the paradox within MAGA, you know, 361 00:17:12,297 --> 00:17:14,817 Speaker 1: where you have Elon mus putting up Milton Friedman quotes 362 00:17:14,857 --> 00:17:16,577 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but you have a lot of 363 00:17:16,617 --> 00:17:19,017 Speaker 1: sort of populace who want more, you know, more, a 364 00:17:19,057 --> 00:17:21,697 Speaker 1: different kind of control over the economy. And I think 365 00:17:21,697 --> 00:17:23,497 Speaker 1: at some point that might come to a head. You know, 366 00:17:23,577 --> 00:17:24,177 Speaker 1: I don't know. 367 00:17:24,537 --> 00:17:28,737 Speaker 2: The the debate within the party feels more important the 368 00:17:28,777 --> 00:17:32,977 Speaker 2: debate between the parties right now, because it's you know, 369 00:17:33,017 --> 00:17:35,497 Speaker 2: it's it's the Republicans field for the next eighteen months, 370 00:17:35,497 --> 00:17:38,177 Speaker 2: for sure. Check out Davids, call him and give him 371 00:17:38,177 --> 00:17:42,177 Speaker 2: a follow on on X and mister HARSANYI always a pleasure, sir. 372 00:17:42,217 --> 00:17:43,017 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again soon. 373 00:17:43,617 --> 00:17:44,337 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.