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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody, Friday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show, also known as Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck to many of you across this land. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. It's a Friday, but it's very

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Speaker 1: cold in some places. People are glued to their screeds,

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Speaker 1: their TVs, their radios. If they're in the car, they're

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Speaker 1: at home listening right now to the President signing as

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Speaker 1: we speak, executive orders in the Oval Office, including an

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Speaker 1: executive order launching an IndyCar race in DC. Oh so cool.

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Speaker 1: It is cool. It's fascinating, isn't it. Whether it's the

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Speaker 1: ballroom or the IndyCar race, or perhaps even the MMA

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Speaker 1: fight on the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our

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Speaker 1: nation's founding, which I believe that is also going to

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Speaker 1: be a thing that happens. With all of that going on,

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Speaker 1: President Trump deciding to just do cool stuff. You can

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Speaker 1: actually just do cool things as president. That Evan could go,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, look at that. So we will discuss, we'll

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Speaker 1: give you more of this. We've got a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of folks who are in the Oval office right now,

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Speaker 1: so there'll be some some sound bites as me need it.

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Speaker 1: But if you're really into IndyCar racing, Clay, when was

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Speaker 1: the last time you watched an IndyCar race. I went

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Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis five hundred. I should I should have known.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? I was in the pens. I

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Speaker 2: I wrote that I rode the track at the at

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Speaker 2: the Indy five hundred, which was really cool. I'd never

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Speaker 2: been before. I got to ride around and I got

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Speaker 2: to say, anyway, so not not the big time, but

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Speaker 2: it was it was pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: And do you know that I get I get hate

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Speaker 1: because whenever I go to a sports thing now, I

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Speaker 1: usually am tagging along to one of your sports things

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Speaker 1: and people say that I haven't like earned it by

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Speaker 1: going to much lesser games. So now people get mad

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Speaker 1: at me. They're just go to the national championship game.

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Speaker 1: You're It's like, I'm sorry I didn't go to the

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Speaker 1: little league games too, Like what do you want me

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Speaker 1: to do? So anyway, but this is it's a high

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Speaker 1: class problem. What can I tell you? Are you pulling

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Speaker 1: something off a screen right now? Because we got to

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Speaker 1: talk Don Leamont. Don't worry, guys, we're getting an into

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Speaker 2: No, I've just tried to check and see who's actually

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Speaker 1: Se Sean Duffy, who's honestly one of just the nicest guys.

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Speaker 1: He's so nice. I'm a big I like Sean Duffy,

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Speaker 1: really good dude. Transportation Secretary, Doug Bergham, the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: the Interior. Some dudes with white hair who I think

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Speaker 1: just based on looking at them and their suits. That's

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Speaker 1: who I've got. But we've got Duffy talking right now,

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Speaker 1: and we've got Burgham in there and Trump signing some

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Speaker 1: eos IndyCar race in DC. That's it, by the way,

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Speaker 1: a great idea, really cool. I mean, why not do

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Speaker 1: some sporting events like this in DC. They should do

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Speaker 1: an F one race in DC. They actually set it

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Speaker 1: up properly. It would be really cool to do that.

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Speaker 2: He is actually a great place to have a race

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Speaker 2: because the boulevards are so wide and we're designed you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have the ability, I think, way better

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Speaker 2: So pretty pretty awesome, cool thing. But yes, it's Friday.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have some fun with all of you.

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Speaker 2: But the Don Lemon story broke this morning and everybody

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Speaker 2: has got so many takes.

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Speaker 1: Now, I told Klas said, I actually have Don Lemon's

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Speaker 1: phone number. Do I text Don Lemont and ask him

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Speaker 1: think he'll probably if he hasn't blocked me. Well, I've

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. I usually don't antagonize people that

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Speaker 1: I really do just want a statement, like I want

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Speaker 1: early this morning, federal agents arrested Don Lemon, Treherne, Jean Cruz,

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Speaker 1: coordinated attack on city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota. More

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Speaker 1: details soon, Clay. There is, oh my gosh, a lot

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Speaker 1: over this one. We will give you more on the

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Speaker 1: Don Lemont arrest from the media, but for right now

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Speaker 1: your top level reactions, sir to journalists in quotes, Don

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Speaker 2: surrounding this at all. A grand jury indicted Don Lemon.

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Speaker 2: So this was not some sort of grand executive decision

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Speaker 2: The grand jury in a blue state, Minnesota, determined that

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Speaker 2: there was probable cause that Don Lemon had committed a

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Speaker 2: skipping right over it. I know it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a legal procedural nerd take, But a grand jury

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Speaker 2: States did not wave a magic wand Pam Bondi did

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Speaker 2: in order for him to be arrested. Okay, that's point one.

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Speaker 2: I think that's significant. Point two. This is the best

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Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened to Don Lemon in his professional career,

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Speaker 2: I know. And so everybody is exulting out there who

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Speaker 2: dislikes Don Lemon and everything else. If I had been asked,

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Speaker 2: if I had been asked, Clay, how is this going

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Speaker 2: to play out? Is this going to be beneficial to

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Speaker 2: and to Don Lemon personally? It's going to be the

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Speaker 2: best thing that ever happened to Don Lemon's career. And

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Speaker 2: let me say this, Buck, if you or I got

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Speaker 2: it would be the best thing that could happen to

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Speaker 2: journalists love to argue that they have the most important

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Speaker 2: not think we are gaining a massive beneficial outcome personally

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Speaker 2: from Don Lemon being arrested. You tweeted this too. I

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Speaker 2: He's never going to prison, he's never going to jail.

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Speaker 2: They're not putting him in solitary confinement. I understand the

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Speaker 2: perspective under which people want there to be accountability. I'm

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Speaker 2: not diminishing that. I'm just saying the practical impact of

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Speaker 2: DOJ than the benefit that is gained by indicting Don Lemon.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even going into the particulars of did

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Speaker 1: Because I think it's likely that he did.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the consequences for him will be incredibly

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Speaker 2: And I don't like that balancing of the equation. If

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Speaker 1: Well, lawyer Clay. I think did an excellent job there, Counselor.

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Speaker 1: I think that Vanderbilt law school education has suited you

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Speaker 1: well today. I think that that's all accurate. Look, there's

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Speaker 1: does Don Lemon want? Don Lemon was making millions of

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Speaker 1: realist here. But Clay, we'll see, Uh, we'll see. There

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Speaker 1: court in civil or criminal court, Clay, it makes all

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Speaker 1: law you're being presented with. Uh yeah, one hundred Senate does.

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Speaker 1: I do think the significance here again is that a

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Speaker 2: But this is a play that that sometimes makes sense

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Speaker 2: in all facets, but particularly given the guy's last name

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the juice isn't.

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Speaker 2: Worth the squeeze. It's a cliche to me. The juice

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Speaker 2: And anyway, we'll continue to take your calls and we

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Speaker 2: Friday Edition. A lot of you weighing in on a

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Speaker 2: Is the fact that in our census we count illegal

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Speaker 2: Attorney General Katherine Hanaway, who is involved in suing based

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Speaker 1: Did I do a good job of explaining that.

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Speaker 2: Take a step back, and you know you're talking no

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Speaker 4: Well, first, Clay and Buck, I just want to say

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Speaker 4: on census data. And right now we're counting illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: So what in terms of the statutes. And I appreciate

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Speaker 1: You know? Because to me it sounds like, well, if

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Speaker 1: Like? What? What is the statutory dispute here as it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's actually the fourteenth Amendment to the US

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Speaker 2: The biggest challenge, as you know, but I bet most

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: They take a tiny percentage of the cases that are

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Speaker 2: How would you assess your chances of getting this case

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Speaker 4: So this is going to be really in the weeds,

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Speaker 4: When President Trump in twenty twenty said we're not counting

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Speaker 4: So that's our best indication of how the modern court

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Speaker 2: What's the time frame in your mind? Obviously, the twenty

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Speaker 4: Well, we have actually asked as one of the things

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Speaker 4: think that's overly optimistic. I think it's more realistic that

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Speaker 4: I'm very optimistic that the Court's going to decide that

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Speaker 1: And Miss Attorney General, what do you think about just

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Speaker 4: You know the history case. Law and constitution are a

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Speaker 2: These are all super important cases, and I think a

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right, and part of the reason we wanted

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Speaker 2: This is outstanding stuff. We appreciate you reaching out, coming

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Speaker 2: on and telling us this story. Please keep us updated

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Speaker 2: when or if you are able to get this case

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Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, and we're wishing you the best

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Speaker 2: of luck.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, have a great weekend. Really appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: That is Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hanaway laying out. Look,

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Speaker 2: you make it basically legal. Credit for the details there,

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Speaker 1: Very important, hugely consequential decisions and cases that she was

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Speaker 1: think of another Catherine, Catherine O'Hara. Did you see this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just saw this news.

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Speaker 2: Just a lot of people are not going to know

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Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara's name necessarily, but they're all going to have

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Speaker 1: just passed. She was actually a great comedic actress. I

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Speaker 2: And Home Alone is one of those movies that if

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Speaker 2: One of the best things that I know a lot

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Speaker 2: is being able to sit down with your kids and

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Speaker 2: watch these nineteen eighties era movies that many of us

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Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety ish something like that. It is it

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Speaker 2: like it as much as you did when you were

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Speaker 1: You took him to see it.

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Speaker 2: It is an iconic, uh holiday classic that she did

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Speaker 1: Producer Greg is asking how does Catherine O'Hara compare to

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Speaker 1: Natalie Portman. Doesn't compare because Catherine O'Hara actually had talent

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Speaker 2: Our friend Alexi Lawless texted me and he was like,

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Speaker 1: So I'm comfortable and you see him. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Speaking of slop and nonsense, I was gonna have some

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Speaker 2: fun with this. Twin Peaks has joined Hooters. We're going

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Speaker 2: to a break here, but the restaurants are under siege. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I thought this was still America.

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Speaker 1: We come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls. We'll continue to follow

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Speaker 2: all these stories. And our friend Julie Kelly's gonna join

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being back here.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thank you for having me on. What an

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Speaker 5: interesting turn of events today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you could, certainly, you could certainly put it. That's

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Speaker 1: the way. Uh Don Lemont has been taken into custody

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Speaker 1: for charges. Before we get into that, we're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: And you know those cases and how they were treated

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Speaker 1: as whether they were journalists or not in detail, and

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Speaker 1: we want you to share that with this audience. But

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Speaker 1: just what's your first thirty thousand foot overview Don lemon

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Speaker 1: in custody reactions, Julie, given that you've been following this

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Speaker 1: case closely.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I really have to commend Attorney General Pam

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Speaker 5: Bondi and her team for pursuing this grand jury indictment

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Speaker 5: despite the active and politically motivated involvement and obstruction by

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Speaker 5: at least two judges in the District of Minnesota, the

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Speaker 5: Chief Judge Patrick Schlitz and of course the magistrate Judge

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Speaker 5: Doug Nico, whose wife is the top aid two Minnesota

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Speaker 5: Attorney General Keith Ellison. So they kept pushing even though

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Speaker 5: both of those judges tried very hard to prevent these

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Speaker 5: these indictments in cases from moving forwards. So this is

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Speaker 5: a big win, especially given the political climate in Minnesota

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Speaker 5: right now, to get a grand jury indictment on those

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Speaker 5: two counts, conspiracy against rights and violation of the Space Act.

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Speaker 2: Okay, few people know about Jan six charges more than you.

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Speaker 2: We've talked to you about Jan six charges for five

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Speaker 2: years basically, now since we started doing this show, you've

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Speaker 2: been coming on with us.

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Speaker 1: I did a Rock search.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking about it with you a bit on Hey,

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Speaker 2: how many people alleged that they were journalists or they

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Speaker 2: were doing documentary film, or basically they were there to

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Speaker 2: chronicle what was going, not as direct protesters. Rock said

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Speaker 2: eight defendants had tried to cite journalism as some form

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Speaker 2: of defense from a variety of different right wing news organizations.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear anybody on the left New York Times, CNN, MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: the usual suspects who were all screaming First Amendment. For

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon, now saying anything about those people who were charged,

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about how that defense was

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Speaker 2: used and who was charged and what the impact was

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Speaker 2: when it was tried to be cited as defense in

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Speaker 2: the jan six cases.

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Speaker 5: Correct, So that is accurate. There are eight. There were

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Speaker 5: eight who were charged who, in varying degrees, took the

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Speaker 5: defense as independent journalists. Most people are very familiar with

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Speaker 5: Steve Baker, who was not at the Blade at the time,

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Speaker 5: but was an independent journalist covering the events. Of course,

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Speaker 5: he was charged with those four common misdemeanors as was

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Speaker 5: Owen Schroyer at info Wars. I just posted that criminal

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Speaker 5: complaint by the BIDENDOJ and Chris Ray FBI, and they

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Speaker 5: fully acknowledged that Owen Shayer was a host for an

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Speaker 5: info Wars show, and that did not protect him from

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Speaker 5: also being charged with four federal misdemeanors and also took

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Speaker 5: a plea deal and the DJ wanted him in prison

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Speaker 5: for six months. He was sentenced to sixty days in prison.

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Speaker 5: So yes, of course, and all of these news organizations

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Speaker 5: and press or advocacy organizations, they all endorsed that, either

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Speaker 5: with their silence or by covering what was happening to

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Speaker 5: them without any sort of questions as to the rights

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Speaker 5: of independent journalists. So here we have Don Lennon very

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Speaker 5: clearly on video working with these well known agitators dating

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Speaker 5: back to the George joyd riots, these alleged journalists, but

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Speaker 5: of course they are their activists working with them before

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Speaker 5: the storming of the church, being involved in the storming, confronting,

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Speaker 5: getting in the face of the pastor who apparently these activists,

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Speaker 5: these rioters, I guess we can call them church rioters

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Speaker 5: or trying to hunt down as an alleged Ice agent

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Speaker 5: and then later bragging about how not only they have

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Speaker 5: successfully terrorized these worshipers families with young children, but also

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Speaker 5: that one reason they did it is because the people

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Speaker 5: when that church had demonstrated something along the lines of

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Speaker 5: white supremacy. So he was not there as a journalist.

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Speaker 5: Obviously we know his political affiliations, and he was part

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Speaker 5: of that unconstitutional and now illegal demonstration.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Julie Kelly, here go check out declassified on

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Speaker 1: her substack and Julie So to me, we know there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of double standard stuff. We talk about that,

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Speaker 1: and clearly the j six defendants were treated. I mean

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Speaker 1: they were treated like they were people colluding with college

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Speaker 1: shik Muhammad or something. I mean, they were treated absolutely

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Speaker 1: horribly in some ways worse actually than people who were

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Speaker 1: and I know because I was involved in counter terrorism

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Speaker 1: investigations or terrorism investigations, So it was grotesque what happened

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Speaker 1: to them did in those cases. You mentioned someone who

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Speaker 1: worked for the Blaze, but I was a Blaze reporter,

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Speaker 1: so that hits home. I mean years ago, so I

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Speaker 1: would have thought of myself as as first Amendment covered

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Speaker 1: as any journalist. I know you said he wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: but clearly that's what he does for a living. He's

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Speaker 1: a reporter. What were some of the if there were

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Speaker 1: any tests, thresholds, red lines that were set up by

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Speaker 1: the prosecution as why these individuals on January sixth were

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Speaker 1: part of the mob versus you see what I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: how do they or was it just they were there

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Speaker 1: and they didn't even get into those kinds of details.

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Speaker 1: Was it you know, if you if you crossed over

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Speaker 1: the barrier, if you were cheering people on. Did they

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Speaker 1: get into the specifics as to what went beyond journalism

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Speaker 1: or was it just J six bad throw you in

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Speaker 5: It Basically the argument was because they were not credentialed.

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Speaker 5: They were not credentialed, and they were not with an

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Speaker 5: established media organization. So you saw there were of course

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Speaker 5: a lot of reporters and photographers videographers who are on

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Speaker 5: the grounds and inside the building. They didn't face charges

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Speaker 5: because if you were on it's so called credential media list,

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Speaker 5: then you were five. But if you weren't, and you

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Speaker 5: were there as an independent journalist, and I could tell

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Speaker 5: you this as someone who covered all of the corporate feedings,

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Speaker 5: I could not get press credentials at the DC courthouse.

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Speaker 5: Of course, it's difference in the capital because I was

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Speaker 5: not aligned with a well known, big name media organization,

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Speaker 5: so they don't recognize independent journalists in the nation's capital.

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Speaker 4: But of course if you were.

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Speaker 5: Dot Lemon, they do. But aside from even the First

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Speaker 5: Amendment rights as member of the press, this relates to

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Speaker 5: a much larger issue of First Amendment rights overall. We

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Speaker 5: keep seeing that it's over and over, whether it's really

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Speaker 5: and in some cases unlawful demonstrators, well, this is covered

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Speaker 5: under their First Amendment rights. That was the complete opposite

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Speaker 5: of how the BIDENDOJ, Chris ray Sei and all of

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Speaker 5: these federal judges in Washington handled similar defenses by J sixers.

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Speaker 5: Yes we were on government clouds. Yes we were yelling

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Speaker 5: at police. Yes we were yelling about our lawmakers. That's

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Speaker 5: our First Amendment right. No, no, no, not for at

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Speaker 5: least one six hundred of them, None of the First

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Speaker 5: Amendment of defenses were successful before DC judges over the

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Speaker 5: course of four years. Now, all of a sudden they

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Speaker 5: see the sing journalists who last off one a defenses

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Speaker 5: of J Sixers overall, and now our claiming that those

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Speaker 5: rights are conferred to far more aggressive, violent and sustained

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Speaker 5: demonstrators and protests in Minneapolis and elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think this is significant to Julie

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Speaker 2: because again this is just kind of my rudimentary analysis

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Speaker 2: of precedent. Entering the capitol, where news happens every day

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Speaker 2: to cover news is much more defensible to me from

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Speaker 2: a journalistic perspective, no matter which organization you claim to represent,

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Speaker 2: than entering a churches, right and Don Lemon is not

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Speaker 2: now affiliated with CNN, He's not now affiliated with MSNBC

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Speaker 2: or The New York Times or any of these left

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Speaker 2: leaning organizations. I would argue he's functionally equivalent to many

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Speaker 2: of these right wing news organizations in that many of

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Speaker 2: them are reporting as business people and journalists on their own.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this is becoming more and more

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Speaker 2: common as people become independent and build out new independent brands.

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Speaker 2: And so I actually think the jan six ers have

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Speaker 2: a much better argument than Don Lemon did when you

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Speaker 2: consider where he's going and the precedent set by January

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Speaker 2: sixth on capital versus church.

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Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely correct, Yes, I mean this was a Wednesday

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Speaker 5: afternoon government taxpayer owned property outside and then of course

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Speaker 5: inside where they're conducting business that, of course any American

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Speaker 5: is allowed to and certainly covered by the First Amendment

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Speaker 5: to protest or even to try to interfere with. But

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Speaker 5: this is completely opposite of what we're seeing with these

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Speaker 5: violent demonstrators in Minneapolis, storming a church in Saint Paul

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Speaker 5: on a Sunday, trying to hunt down an alleged ICE agent,

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Speaker 5: and of course terrorizing all of these families and committing

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Speaker 5: multiple crimes. I mean, they're lucky this is all that

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Speaker 5: they're going to get. And keep in mind the magistrate

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Speaker 5: judge who's married to the Ellison aide, he declined those

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Speaker 5: two face charges in the other three individuals who had

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Speaker 5: been charged earlier, so they're still really getting a slap

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Speaker 5: on the risks considering what they could be charged with.

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Speaker 5: But again, you know, when all this is happening in

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Speaker 5: January sixth and some of us were saying, you know,

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Speaker 5: the left and the Democrats are not going to like

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Speaker 5: when these rules apply to them. Well they laugh that

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Speaker 5: up because no one ever thought that it would.

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Speaker 6: But that doj FBI, federal judges all set expensive precedent

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Speaker 6: and case law in how now one a what used

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Speaker 6: to be First Amendment protected rights were completely decimated, What charges,

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Speaker 6: what kase law can be applied now that we're seen

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Speaker 6: as happened to them.

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Speaker 2: Julie Buck and I both think, having analyzed all of

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Speaker 2: this legally everything else, there's a difference between being able

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Speaker 2: to indict someone legally and what the larger impact is

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Speaker 2: going to be from a political perspective. Having analyzed all

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Speaker 2: of this, do you agree with us that this is

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Speaker 2: probably the best thing that could happen to Don Lemmon,

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Speaker 2: that he dreams of being a martyr in this context,

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Speaker 2: and that deep down he is ecstatic that this has happened.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a very good analysis. You could see

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Speaker 5: how he just keeps pushing the envelope right. So he's

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Speaker 5: also been with Mike Fanona on Capitol grounds. They got

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Speaker 5: in the face of Nancy Mace a few months ago,

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Speaker 5: So he keeps pushing and pushing in your right. I

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Speaker 5: think that there is a big side of him that

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Speaker 5: wants this now be some journalistic martyr, but that will

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Speaker 5: be cold comfort if he is convicted by Minnesota jury

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Speaker 5: trial jury and he goes to federal prison for a

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Speaker 5: few years. But aside from that, it really exposes a

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Speaker 5: lot of these journalists news organizations to where we started,

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Speaker 5: were completely silent when this is happening to independent reporters

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Speaker 5: for January sixth, and now we see their crocodile tears

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Speaker 5: over their alleged colleague Don Lahman.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Julie, have a fantastic weekend. We appreciate all

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Speaker 2: the work you have been doing and are doing, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you again, I'm sure soon.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Klay, take care. But takisun that.

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Speaker 2: Is Julie Kelly putting in context what is I don't

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Speaker 2: I would think that at a bare minimum, you would

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Speaker 2: have to acknowledge the Jan six precedent on my trustee

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Speaker 2: quad box zero mention of the jan six precedents when

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Speaker 1: To that in any way. So you're getting a little

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Speaker 2: Steve Forbes kind of a guy some of you will know.

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Speaker 2: Chairman editor in chief of Forbes magazine, says, we've talked

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Speaker 7: Biden administration examine started examining her finances and that of

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Speaker 7: But it's amazing how people can go into Congress and

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Speaker 7: She had a hundred one thousand dollars of net worth

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Speaker 7: Is there money laundering operation here? And in terms of

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Speaker 7: That winery in California that she and her husband own,

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Speaker 7: where did that come from? Where's the wine there? And

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Speaker 7: nobody can seem to find it. So there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of smelly stuff here. And that's why in the American Dream,

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Speaker 7: her Mayor of Virgin of the American Dream is the

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Speaker 7: al Capone version of the American Dream. Tony soprano virsion

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Speaker 7: it from the taxpayers. And so there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: stuff here. And so when somebody cloaks themselves in the

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Speaker 7: American Dream, and so you have numbers like this from

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Speaker 7: minus one thousand and thirty forty million, you know something

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Speaker 7: is not right.

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Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to play that buck is Steve

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Speaker 2: Forbes is not exactly known as a bomb thrower. So

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Speaker 2: when he's going off on elon Omar like that, I

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Speaker 2: equity investment fund that her husband runs, and basically the

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Speaker 2: location seems to be nonexistent. There's just a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions here. One other thing, President Trump, we got a

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Speaker 2: couple of cuts here. Let me hit a couple of

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Speaker 2: these in the White House. Earlier was announcing the IndyCar Race.

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Speaker 2: This was Sean Duffy saying we're going to celebrate America's

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 1: I just thought this was cool. News cut twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: President gave us all a directive, But I'm grateful for

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Speaker 3: We're going to celebrate America's two hundred fifieth birthday, and

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Speaker 3: How do we make this historic and cool? And let's

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Speaker 3: all do this together. And he loves the country and

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Speaker 3: loves the birthday, and so we at DOT were working

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Speaker 3: on this concept. We didn't know at the same time

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Speaker 3: we've come together and Doug has been a wonderful partner.

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Speaker 3: But to think one hundred and ninety miles an hour

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Speaker 3: down Pennsylvania Avenue, this is going to be wild. The

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Speaker 3: last time we had a race in the capital city Bud.

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Speaker 1: Was when eighteen oh one Thomas Jefferson of the horse

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Speaker 1: race a horse race in eighteen oh one.

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Speaker 3: President, Now we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a real race. That's so good, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know about the Thomas Jefferson horse race in

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Speaker 2: eighteen oh one. That's before the Louisiana purchase even occurred.

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Speaker 2: That was a little bit earlier. In the Oval Office,

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Speaker 2: we'll continue to break down some of these things, including

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Speaker 2: you want some good news book, Did you see age

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Speaker 2: ton of attention, but I thought that was pretty cool.

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