1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle. Get Him in a Huddle, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Get him in a Huddle, Get him in a Huddle, 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: New York Giants Podcast. I'm John Schmilkin. Welcome to another 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: episode of The Giants Huddle podcast. Today's guest Hall of 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback and former New York Giant Kurt Warner. We'll 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Jones, Eli Manning and the Giants prospects 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. But first, if you're listening to this 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com with the Giants Mobile app, we 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to the show, but it's a lot 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: easier for you and it's better for us to be 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Go to your favorite podcast platform, subscribe at us see 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: your favorites list, or if you're an Apple podcast even 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: leave a positive review and I'll help this podcast grow. 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: And now we're joined by our guest, Hall of Fame 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: quarterback Kurt Warner and of course former New York Giant 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: as well. Kurt, thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it. 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: You bet good to be uh out here Giants Camp. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Beautiful day, so good to be with you. Well, let's 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: start with this first thing on your mind when you 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: watch your first giants practice. What are you gonna be 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: watching for? Well, I mean, you know what I'm gonna 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: be watching for. I mean I'm always at quarterbacks first, 23 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think especially in this situation obviously, 24 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: I know Eli for a long time, Uh, pulling for 25 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: him to uh to finish this thing out the right way, 26 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: however long that that lasts. Uh. And I got an 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to to meet Daniel as well after the draft 28 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit, and uh, it just seems 29 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: like a great young man. So at the same time, 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: pulling for him whenever that time comes that he can 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: go in and have success. All right, Well, let's start 32 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones part of it first. I know you 33 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: do a lot of work on the college quarterbacks. What's 34 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the type of player Daniel Jones just 35 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: coming into the NFL. Um, Yeah, man, I think he's 36 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: a cerebral quarterback, understands how to play the game, understands 37 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: how to go through progressions. Um, good athlete at the 38 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Um. You know, when I watched him in college, 39 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: of one thing and the one question mark I had 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: was was the physical upside that he had? And again 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, It's not one of those things that 42 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: show up when you watch a workout and you go, 43 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: can he throw the ball sixty yards or you know, 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: can he make a deep outcut. Everybody that's at this 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: level can make those throws. But some guys can't make 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: those throws as much when the world's not perfect, when 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: there's pressure on him, when he's falling away, when he's 48 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: a little late with the throw, and he's gotta put 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: a little more on it. And that, to me is 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: my only real question mark with Daniel. And that doesn't 51 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: mean he can't be great. It just simply means that 52 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: when the margin of air shrinks, you just have to 53 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: be more efficient. You have to be able to, uh, 54 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, have your timing great, know what you're seeing, 55 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: put the ball placement in certain spots. And so that 56 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: to me is is what I saw, is that there's 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: a lot to like about him. It's just, you know, 58 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys that believes that physically, you 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: have to be able to carry a team with your 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: right arm if you're gonna win championships outside of the 61 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: rare occasion when you have all these other pieces and 62 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: you can just be you know, you can be a 63 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: complimentary piece. It doesn't happen very often in this NFL, 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: UM And so that, to me is is the one 65 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: thing I'm looking forward to seeing is um. You know, 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: does he grow? Does he get better? Is what I 67 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: saw in college? You know, not what I see when 68 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I when I'm watching and kind of the live bullets go. 69 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: And does he have that other piece or is he 70 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: so good in those other areas that even if he 71 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have that piece, he's got the ability to carry 72 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: his team and carry the giants um into that championship 73 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: type level. I thought that Kevin Gilbride a lot. He 74 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: told me back when he was a younger offensive coordinator. 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: He would say, arm strength is what I was most 76 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: concerned with. It. As he got older, though, we realized 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: it's while the bullets are flying at you, being able 78 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to see things, slow it down, anticipate and do all 79 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: those things mentally. Is that to you now, as you've 80 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: been playing quarterback for so long the most important part 81 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: of playing quarterback in the NFL without a doubt. I mean, 82 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and you're talking to a guy that wasn't the most 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: talented guy physically either, you know, not a guy that's 84 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: gonna throw a ball through a wall, or you gonna 85 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: be able to throw at sixty yards falling away like 86 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: some of the guys can. So um So, I've always 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: believed that is that you know what you're seeing, no 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: when to throw the football, and be accurate with it. 89 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: If you can do those three things, you can be 90 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: very very successful. Um But again, I also understand that 91 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: even though it wasn't the most physically talented, I could 92 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: make some of those special throws and then and I 93 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: could put it in tight windows, so I could carry 94 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: a team that way. But without a doubt, those things 95 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: that we just talked about are way way more important 96 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: than the arm strength or the ability. And again, sometimes 97 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: it's not just arm strength. I mean, you look at 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron Rodgers, it's the ability to make 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: throws when you're in a funky position. You know, that 100 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: becomes the other part of the physical talent is can 101 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: you be falling away or I mean, yeah, exactly and 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: so um so, Again, it's not just arm strength. You know, 103 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: there's a level level of physicality that that you have 104 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: to play with at the quarterback position that allows you 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: to get away or to make plays that not everybody 106 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: can make. And That's what separates guys that can read 107 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and anticipate and make good decisions. Okay, great, a lot 108 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: of guys can do that. Now do you have that 109 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: extra piece? Because that extra pieces what can elevate you to, 110 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, to whatever championship level or Hall of Fame 111 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: level or whatever that may be. For a young quarterback 112 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: playing his first year in the NFL, what's the toughest 113 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: part of the transition and the toughest thing that he's 114 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: going to have to learn and figure out to be 115 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: successful going from what he did a duke to doing 116 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do here for the Giants. I mean, 117 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: I think we always talk about speed, and so it's 118 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the speed of processing things. It's the speed of how 119 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: you know quickly windows close. Um. So it's kind of 120 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: the idea that you have to learn what you can 121 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: and cannot do at this level. And so that's the 122 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: hardest part as a rookie is you don't get a 123 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to do that. You know, your little preseason, 124 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: you know, and you get into a game and it's 125 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: like you sometimes have to learn on the fly. Oh shoot, 126 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I can't make that throw. Okay, I can still make 127 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: that throw or that throw needs to be made, you know, 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: with a quick hitch or this. And so I think 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: that's the hardest part is, you know, getting acclimated with 130 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: everything that is the NFL and being able to figure 131 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: out as quickly as possible what success looks like for me, 132 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: what I'm able to get away with what I can't do, um, 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and be able to memory bank that instead of making 134 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: the same mistakes over and over again, thinking that, hey, 135 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, I made this throw in college, I gotta 136 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: be able to make it here. I got it, And 137 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: then you know, too long, you've made that mistake too 138 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: many times, and you know you're kind of getting pushed 139 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: to the side because you haven't realized and learned, okay, 140 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: at this level, can't make that throw the same way. 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: What are your expectations for Eli Manning this year heading 142 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: into year number sixteen for him? UM, My expectations are 143 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the same they always have been for Eli. UM. Although 144 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm a believer that Eli needs to play the game 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: a certain way and if they allow him to play 146 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: the game the way he's always played it, UM, I 147 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: don't look at him and say he's missing throws or 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: he can't make throws. I see the same kind of guy. 149 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: But um, but he's a guy that likes to see 150 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: things come open and then attack it. Um. If you 151 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: try to force him to anticipate more, get the ball 152 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: out of his hands quicker, I just don't take that 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: plays to his strengths. And so the last couple of years, 154 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: with some of the issues they've had around him, they've 155 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: tried to ask him to play it a little bit 156 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: differently than he's always played it, and I think it's 157 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: forced him to struggle a little more than you know. 158 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't look at it and say, oh, physically he's diminishing, 159 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that's why he's having the struggles. I look at and say, 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: pieces around him aren't what he needs to succeed. So 161 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: now he's struggling because of that. But if you can 162 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: get him back, and you know, we saw glimpses last year. 163 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, there were stretches where he looked like the 164 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: old Eli Manning, you know, and that to me goes 165 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: to show see he can make the throws. You just 166 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: need to make sure the environment is what he needs 167 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: to succeed. And so that to me is what I'm 168 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking for this year, is you know, the wide 169 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: receivers without the big play guy like like O b J. 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Can Eli be that efficient guy that works the ball 171 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: down the field that's never necessarily been his m O. 172 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Offensive line has been an issue for a couple of years. 173 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: You know, elis a guy that needs to see it 174 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and take a little bit more time, maybe that extra 175 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: hitch to deliver it. He doesn't get that extra hitch. Now. 176 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to play the game a little bit differently 177 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: than he has always has. And so those are a 178 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: couple of the questions that I'm looking at to go, Okay, 179 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: how does this play out? Because I think that's I 180 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: think that's going to determine how everything plays out. You know, 181 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: talking about Eli's career this season, Uh, you know the 182 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: whole situation with Daniel Jones. I think a lot is 183 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: writing on that UM, but I fully expect, if the 184 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: pieces around him are right, UM, him to have another 185 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: solid season. The easy comparison is to compare Eli coming 186 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, you was the staughter to 187 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: what's going on this year. Do you think that's a 188 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: fair comparison or do you think it's different enough where 189 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: people are just trying to put one and one together. 190 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: When am I not necessarily equal to Yeah? I mean 191 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: I think it's it's completely different, um, you know, because 192 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at it from a standpoint of a guy 193 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: that came here solely for the purpose of keeping the 194 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: seat warm until they felt the young guy was ready. Um, 195 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to a guy that's a giant icon. Uh 196 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: you know that you know, has been the face of 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: this franchise and done everything right and done everything you 198 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: would ask, um, you know, a top draft pick to 199 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: do for you and winning championships and carrying heself the 200 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: right way. And so I think there's a lot more 201 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: sensitivity to how it has to play out this time 202 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: than it did the first time. I mean the first time, 203 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: it really came down to, Okay, when's the right time 204 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: to put Eli in? You know, it was that question 205 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: probably every week. Is now the right time? Is now 206 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: the right time? Is now the right time? I don't 207 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case now. UM. I think 208 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: it's more gonna be in a perfect world. They want 209 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Eli to be able to write his own ending. That 210 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: to me is the perfect world. And I think the 211 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Giants go into this thing saying that same thing is 212 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: we want him to be able to write in his 213 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: own way. What does that look like? Is that sixteen 214 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: games this year? You know, is it two years? UM? 215 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: When is the right time for that? But I think 216 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna be very sensitive to who Eli is and 217 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: what he's meant to this organization, and it's not going 218 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: to be a situation where we're just looking for an 219 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: opportunity or a reason why. I don't think you're going 220 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: to see that this year. I've lead they go in 221 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: with this Zella's job. We expect him to play sixteen 222 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: games and barring something you know, catastrophic or or outrageous, 223 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: that's how we see is playing out. And if we 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: feel at the end of this year that it's time, 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: we'll go to Daniel at the beginning of next year 226 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: as opposed to seven games in nine games, in twelve 227 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: games in UM, I think that's how they would like 228 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: this thing to play out. UM. But again, we always 229 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: know there's extenuating circumstances throughout the course of an NFL season, 230 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: and what that looks like depending on how good this 231 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: team is and how competitive they are, UM, I think 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: can help dictate that for Eli. What is it gonna 233 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: be like for him. Do you think put get into 234 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: his shoes a little bit trying to handle us because 235 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: he always gonna get questions every week, whether or not 236 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: it's imminent or not, they're just going to come. What 237 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: is the stuff that he's gonna have to deal with 238 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: over the course of the year to stay the course 239 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: he's he's Mr Steady, but it's still a challenge. Well, 240 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's always a couple of things 241 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: that have to come into play. The first thing is 242 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: you have to be very realistic with the situation and 243 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: with your situation. Um, you know, I think we're always biased. 244 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: We always want to feel like we're playing better than 245 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: than we are, and so I think that becomes the 246 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: first part of it is be realistic about what the 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: situation is. Realistic that they you know, they just drafted 248 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: your backup, that's the case. It's going to happen at 249 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: some point. Be realistic, Be realistic with how you play. 250 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: And that can be both sides. If you're not playing well, 251 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: got to be realistic with that and understand. Or if 252 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: you're playing well and people are still asking you and 253 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: people are still clamoring for the young guy to be 254 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: able to quiet that noise and go I'm good. I 255 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: know I'm playing well. I'm not worried about the noise 256 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: because I'm playing well. Um. But but I think that 257 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: becomes the biggest part is it's just you've got to 258 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: be able to look outside of the situation and be 259 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: very realistic with how it's playing out. Otherwise you can 260 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: get better. Otherwise, you can get you can get tight, 261 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: you can get tents, you can worry about things that, 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: um that if you worry about him, probably make you 263 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a worse quarterback than you would be otherwise. And so um. 264 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: I always kind of found that in the different situations 265 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I was in was I had to really be able 266 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: to put myself in and take a step back and go, Okay, Kurt, 267 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: how are you playing? What would you do? What is 268 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: the right situation here? And the more you can accept 269 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: that and be realistic and be honest with yourself, I 270 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: think the easier it is to to deal with whatever 271 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: is being thrown at you. The less you're like that, 272 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and the more you know you try to, you know, 273 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: stick your head to the wall or to the fire 274 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: and go on, I'm still great. I can still do this. 275 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Even if I'm not doing this. I think the more 276 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: problems you have in dealing with and wrestling with all 277 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: the issues that can come up. The final question on 278 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the transition, how is this something that coach Shermer handles 279 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Because once you get into the season, the backup quarterback 280 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of reps of practice. Right, he 281 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: might do the scouts team tough, but he's not doing 282 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: stuff with the first team. So is this really just 283 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: a matter of Eli playing well enough in the team 284 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: winning enough games to keep Jones off the field. How 285 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: much does Jones development impact this? How do you handle 286 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: this if your head coach tremor and what do he 287 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: uses a judge to to when you make the move? Well, 288 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: I think the hardest part is that I don't think 289 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: there's a formula. So I can't sit here now and say, Okay, 290 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: this is what coach Shermer should do. I think you 291 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: have to feel out every situation. You have to feel 292 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: out where your team is. You got to feel out 293 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: where the organization is. You've got to feel it out 294 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: individually to go okay, I have to make the best 295 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: decisions for Eli and Daniel, but I also have to 296 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: make the best decisions for the giants, Like gotta make 297 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: the best decisions for me, and so I just I 298 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of factors that go into this, um, 299 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: you know, and and a big one is gonna come 300 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: down to what do we feel Eli is? Do we 301 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: feel Eli is a one more year guy? Do we 302 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: feel Eli is a possibly a two year guy? Do 303 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: we feel he can even possibly pay play longer than that? 304 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Do we really feel he's on his last Let I 305 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of that plays into it, as well 306 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: as who you honestly think Eli is at this point 307 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: in time in his career, and you know whatever that 308 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: is is. I mean, now he struggles for a game 309 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: where he struggles for two games, you don't look to go, 310 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: let's go to the young guy, because you know, if 311 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: you still feel like he's that guy, then, like any 312 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: other quarterback, he had a couple of games struggle. I 313 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: mean we all do that. How good you are, how 314 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: bad you I mean, you have those moments. So I 315 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: think that plays into it. But I just I don't 316 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: think there's a there's a again, I want to say 317 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: right scenario because it's probably a perfect scenario, But I 318 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: just don't think you know that ahead of time because 319 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: you have to just wait and see how everything's progressing. 320 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: It And again I looked back to, you know, when 321 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: I was with Eli and Oh four and Tom Coughlin, 322 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: basically when we were a playoff team at the time. 323 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Um yeah, And I mean somebody just told me today 324 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: that the last team in the playoffs that year was 325 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: eight and eight, you know, so there was a great 326 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: chance we make the playoffs. There's no doubt that I 327 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: was the better quarterback at that time. But Tom looked 328 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: at a big picture and said, well, I don't think 329 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: we're a championship type team this year, so I have 330 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: to play for next year or two years from now, 331 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: and what's the right move. Um. Again, I think all 332 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: those things can factor into this, and you just don't 333 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: know until you cross some of those pasts and go, Okay, 334 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: this leans me here or this takes me there, or 335 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: now I'm i I'm looking at this differently week eight 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: than I did week one, and um so yeah, I mean, 337 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: you don't envy guys that are in that position because 338 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you really want to do the right thing for Eli, 339 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: because he deserves that. Um. But at the same time, 340 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: you have to try to do the right thing for 341 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the team. Again, like you know forward, you sped up 342 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: the process for Eli. So here they are a couple 343 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: of years later and they win a championship, you know, 344 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: and who knows how much of that was because he 345 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: got seven games to kind of take his lumps and 346 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: grow and learn. Um, So I think all those things 347 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: have to take be taken into account. You mentioned the 348 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: offense no Odell Beckham Jr. Offensive line better, Kevin Zeiler 349 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: and Mike Ramers will slow fly the right side. What 350 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: does this offense have to look like from a schematic 351 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: play calling one past balanced type scenario for it to 352 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: be successful? Um, you know, I don't know. I mean 353 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's good, look different, you know, I think, Um, 354 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: sometimes the hardest thing about an offense is when you 355 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: have to drive twelve, fourteen, sixteen plays to get points 356 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: on the board. You know, because sometimes you like the 357 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: o b js that you can throw a little slant 358 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: too and he takes at sixty and you know, because 359 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: you need those difference making players. Evan Ingram, I think 360 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: it's a guy that's kind of a mismatch and has 361 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: the big playability. Of course, a Kwon, you know, can 362 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: take it to the house any given time. Um, But 363 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna kind of be a dictator for 364 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: this team, is a can they be efficient enough if 365 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: they don't have those explosive plays? You know, Eli, can 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: he be you know, that completion guy and a first 367 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: down guy you know, week in and week out to 368 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: put those points on the board. And if not, who 369 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: becomes that splash play guy that gives them the big 370 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: play touchdowns that allows them to be more of an 371 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: explosive offense. If they're not able to be you know, efficient, 372 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: can they count on somebody to be that guy? Um? Again, 373 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of good players, but I don't know if 374 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: they have that one staple guy that you can count 375 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: on weekend and week out to be that big playmaker. 376 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: And then just in terms of team success, Kurt, you 377 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: flipped the other side of the ball and there's a 378 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: lot of young, unproven guys on defense, especially in the secondary. 379 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: When you're a veteran quarterback and you go out there 380 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: and you see, I got three corners out there that's 381 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: played like two NFL games, How does that change things 382 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: for an opposing offense and for the Giants Devens when 383 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: you're running out a lot of young guys in the secondary, Well, 384 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the biggest thing as a quarterback 385 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: is I try not to look at talent level as 386 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: much as I tried to look at scheme. And I 387 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: think the hardest thing is when you have a bunch 388 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: of young guys is trying to you know, do a 389 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: lot of things and do a lot of pre snap 390 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: stuff and and and hold your coverages to the last 391 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: second to confuse a quarterback. And you know, if you 392 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: don't do that with you know, a lot of these 393 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, if you just show them what 394 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna show them, yeah, you're usually in trouble unless 395 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: you have you know, that flat out talent to be 396 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: able to match up. And so that's kind of what 397 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I always looked at when I was going against young teams, 398 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: is like they're gonna be limited in what they can do, 399 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: and if they show me what they're doing, you know, 400 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day, you know, for the defense. 401 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: So I think that becomes the bigger thing even you know, 402 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: even then, how talented are we is how can we 403 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, how much can we do to cover up 404 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: for our youth and to create bad plays by the 405 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: other team? Um, you know, with with all the young 406 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: guys that we have, and we've got to get all 407 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: them in the right spot. What's your feel for the 408 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: NFC East. How do you see this division playing up? 409 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna be there. I still want to 410 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: see what they become offensively, especially in the past game. 411 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: But their defense is gonna be strong and they're gonna 412 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: be able to run the football. So I think they're 413 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a good team. I'm not sure they're a 414 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: great team. The Eagles. I think the Eagles are as 415 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: good as they've been in the last couple of years 416 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: and made some really good moves. But a lot comes 417 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: down to can Carson get back to form from a 418 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But yeah, I do look at 419 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: those two teams kind of out ahead with a lot 420 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: more questions about the Giants and the Redskins and what 421 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: they can be. Uh So I think teams are gonna 422 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, these teams are gonna be chasing those teams, um, 423 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: you know. But but again, I think, you know, you 424 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: look at it different ways. I think the Giants have 425 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: done some things to improve themselves. Um, the question becomes, 426 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, do you improve yourself with offensive line play 427 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: that makes up for the splash plays of an O 428 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: B J. And you know, I just want to see 429 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: how that plays out, because to me, consistency is always 430 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing. But if you didn't make moves 431 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: enough to be consistent and you miss out on big plays, 432 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: now that changes the complexion of who you are as 433 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: an offense too. So yeah, a lot more questions about 434 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: these two teams. I think there's a lot more answers 435 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and the Eagles. But that's the beautiful 436 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: thing about our league is that you can say that 437 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: going into training camp in day one, and lots can 438 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: change very quickly with an injury here or a guy 439 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: not playing up to his standards um and so I'm 440 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how it plays A final question, 441 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: if there's one or two things you had to pick 442 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: out that have to go right for the Giants this 443 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: year and then to be playing meeting full football late 444 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: November only December, fighting for a playoff spot, what are 445 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: they offensive defensive line? I think it starts with the 446 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: offensive line. They made their improvements there. Those have to 447 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: pay off, specifically in getting Kwan going in the run 448 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: game first and foremost, to take the pressure off of 449 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: everybody else and not have to lean on the big 450 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: plays and the defensive line. Um that I think they 451 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: have to create a pass rush. You know that they 452 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have the horses on the other side that can 453 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: carry you. Um, you know for the most part that 454 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: they have to be able to create a pass rush. 455 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I look at the roster and I go, Okay, 456 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: where's it coming from? You know, what where are they 457 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna you know, because again that's what the game is 458 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: is you still gotta win the line of scrimmage, especially 459 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: in the past. First, Um, you know league like we're 460 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: in now, gotta get pass rush on the quarterback. If 461 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: you don't, there's a lot of guys that can beat 462 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: you with the way that it's wide open now. And 463 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: so those to me are there are the two areas 464 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: that if the Giants are gonna make a little bit 465 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: of noise, they've got to win in those two areas. 466 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: You can see him on the phone network can see 467 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: him or listen to him rather on Westwood Ones covers 468 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: the National Football lead to a great job on Sunday Football, 469 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: by the way, and of course you can see his 470 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: bust in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio. Kurt. 471 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time, do you bet? Thanks for having 472 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: me on. That's Kurt Warner, very generous with this time. Today. 473 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: He was here with NFL Network covering the Giants training 474 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: camp practice and it was great to talk to him 475 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: and get some of his insights given his experience in 476 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the situation Elion Manning is in this year, and of 477 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: course his years playing quarterback in the National Football League. 478 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: I'm John Schmelko. Thanks for being with us on another 479 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: episode of the Giant Huttle podcast. 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