Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot im a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Hi, Hi man, It is such a
Speaker 1: pleasure to be where you are right now. This is
Speaker 1: Jay dot Ilga podcast. It's means Jill Scott am I
Speaker 1: only hear my s start friends, Layah st Clair, Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, freaks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: freaks and the biggest freak of mamall agent grading Bangel.
Speaker 1: Somebody give me an airborne. We're a little freaky today.
Speaker 1: As you've noticed, we've we've said freaky a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and um there. First of all, I want to say
Speaker 1: to you that there's nothing wrong being freak. Goat Derek.
Speaker 1: There's nothing I said, eot damn it and there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with it, not damn thing. Nothing as your grandmama.
Speaker 1: Huh Okay, that's her grandma. Okay, maybe just the one grandma.
Speaker 1: We're just going it's that one on one side, just
Speaker 1: one grandma back. They don't go too far back. It
Speaker 1: don't actually know what. I don't believe that. Actually I
Speaker 1: see I feel like we have. We've fallen victim to
Speaker 1: the grandma stereotype. Every Body grandma wasn't making no pies.
Speaker 1: Somebody grandma was running the whole house like somebody's grandma
Speaker 1: got a pistol and you know what I'm saying, somebody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: these these as real grandma's. We need to like rewrite
Speaker 1: this grandma's story because they grandma ain't got apple pies
Speaker 1: and ship wearing a movie all day. You feel mine? No, no,
Speaker 1: ma'am not mine. I've told you a few stories about
Speaker 1: my nana. So grateful for that. And look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something else. I'm grateful for every time time
Speaker 1: that I've been like performing in Oakland, this woman, this woman, this, this,
Speaker 1: this this huh, this person will show up after the show,
Speaker 1: be waiting by the gate faithfully. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: for years, years, not one or two or three. I'm
Speaker 1: talking consistently, and she will show up and have me
Speaker 1: these amazing vibrators every time. An evolution of vibrators you have, Jill,
Speaker 1: are you saying you have an evolution of vibrators? We
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Speaker 1: she has feel more adult. Um, are you you have
Speaker 1: are you. You have several stories now and you have
Speaker 1: two stories. Oh oh yeah, the pandemic catch all inside.
Speaker 1: So I took an opportunity, you know, generational wealth, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm actually gonna try not
Speaker 1: to be totally upset and offended because I come to
Speaker 1: Opland literally like twice even, and I'm like, I need
Speaker 1: to I need some of this love. I need some
Speaker 1: of this love. It's a brag, like it's a it's
Speaker 1: an official flex, you know, because I'll I'll be so
Speaker 1: happy to have the gift. Like how thoughtful. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm on the road. You know, I can't be smashing
Speaker 1: everybody I meet it. I mean, you can't do it
Speaker 1: with your partner, do right, let me and let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, like why Jill, and do you do
Speaker 1: this to other artists? Special? Okay, so here's here's the
Speaker 1: the outline of the story. The outline of the story
Speaker 1: is that my store is right on the block where
Speaker 1: they form all the performers are, and so um it's
Speaker 1: always you know, for me, it's I don't know. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I think we have to continue to play in life,
Speaker 1: you know, to be that kid that we're nurturing all
Speaker 1: the time because that kid is always there, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, just to say that I'm always working and
Speaker 1: I can't do these things, it's very limiting. And it
Speaker 1: was right there, and so I would just take the
Speaker 1: opportunity to actually go over and beat you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of the black performers because they're coming into predominantly Almoso,
Speaker 1: a predominantly white community, performing and I would just sit
Speaker 1: at the game, even if just to see them because
Speaker 1: you know, in the early days, I really couldn't leave
Speaker 1: my desk because I'm sitting there working. I was my
Speaker 1: only employee, and so I was like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just been good to to see what's going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes and also be that that greeting, you know,
Speaker 1: that welcome wagon for people coming into the city to
Speaker 1: know what was where to go eat, Like her people
Speaker 1: come and where we're we go eat, you know, don't
Speaker 1: go there and go here and go to this black
Speaker 1: business right here. And so I think that for me,
Speaker 1: it's been about you know, meeting those um black performers
Speaker 1: in her team, her people, her have always been very receptive.
Speaker 1: So each time and it's just like I just want
Speaker 1: to continue to see that and so that's that's what
Speaker 1: it's that's what it's been about. So and it's a
Speaker 1: community based initiative. Yes, yeah, we love that. We love
Speaker 1: that time to finally met the family soul come to Oakland,
Speaker 1: can you please? Well, I don't know where this Where
Speaker 1: is this venue? What venue was? It's called the Fox Oakland.
Speaker 1: I just saw I yeah, I just saw great show.
Speaker 1: I'd be here. That's asked you. Did you get a
Speaker 1: chance to bless her? I did not. I did not
Speaker 1: because her her guy was like, well, she doesn't really
Speaker 1: like to meet anybody, but you know, so I'll see
Speaker 1: the teens and everything. But I saw her at the
Speaker 1: Berkeley Greek Theater and it was a performance. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to someone about this this morning where they
Speaker 1: had like this walkway and so as people were outside,
Speaker 1: they were in there, you know, their garment like it
Speaker 1: was just like this runway of fashion. And also she
Speaker 1: had because her because it takes her so long to
Speaker 1: get on stage. Come on, now, she's in her eighties,
Speaker 1: so let's just right. So she had strippers on stage
Speaker 1: doing the show. While they were waiting on her. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm I'm sold, I'm so I was
Speaker 1: like this is. This is on a whole different level.
Speaker 1: But when she came to the Fox, she didn't have strippers,
Speaker 1: and so it was a different kind of show, the
Speaker 1: same music, different kind of shows. So so I've been
Speaker 1: getting hooked up. I've been getting hooked up so much
Speaker 1: for so many years. This this sweet human being bringing
Speaker 1: me these awesome vibrators that really I don't know about
Speaker 1: you all. I mean, I don't know if you're you're
Speaker 1: new to this. I had a girlfriend. I have a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: very wonderful friend of mine, who unfortunately just lost her
Speaker 1: husband and they've been together for a long time. Um,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't know, you know, she doesn't know. Um
Speaker 1: she's only forty nine years old and she she doesn't
Speaker 1: know about anybody but her husband. Right, So my aunts,
Speaker 1: of course, I come for the what you call it,
Speaker 1: uh the shiva? Is that? Is that? What that is? Well,
Speaker 1: you know when you're around, um, you know when someone
Speaker 1: has passed and you're just there. Yeah, she's not Jewish,
Speaker 1: but I just called it that because that's where my
Speaker 1: head went. And um, I brought her a vibrator umil though,
Speaker 1: because I brought her, I brought her a fairly good
Speaker 1: size I'll say you know about I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: a vibrator. Um. It is the lacky licky kind with
Speaker 1: that wonderful pretender. La is the joy, the joy on
Speaker 1: LA's face for me, Yes, we're just curious though, like
Speaker 1: even in being married for so long and not to
Speaker 1: put her business off frustrated or nothing like that, Like
Speaker 1: that's curious that a vibrator is something she didn't already have.
Speaker 1: I think she what she said to me is that
Speaker 1: she's had toys, but you know, there it wasn't something
Speaker 1: that they necessarily needed. And also it wasn't um what
Speaker 1: she has his old like antiquated things. She didn't know
Speaker 1: they do licky licky now right, because that's fairly new.
Speaker 1: That is, Yeah, she didn't know that. So it is
Speaker 1: is um a real pleasure for me to have Nina
Speaker 1: on this podcast today, to have her on j dot
Speaker 1: ill with us to talk to us about the use
Speaker 1: of vibrators, um and even dildos because the evolution. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that, Like for all of
Speaker 1: you that are like I'm tired of the bullshit. Hey,
Speaker 1: this thing right here, this thing right here, it say
Speaker 1: feel good right now and go to sleep, and that's
Speaker 1: what it says, just says. It says, Hey, you're stressed out,
Speaker 1: you're nervous about this business meeting, You're you're making a presentation.
Speaker 1: Here you go and relax. Yeah, and we're just understanding
Speaker 1: that they don't have to go inside of you because
Speaker 1: some of us don't always want something from the inside.
Speaker 1: Just like, you know, work those outsides, you know, she said,
Speaker 1: work those Okay, y'all. I feel like we're so down
Speaker 1: the road, like we should ask Nina, like how does
Speaker 1: she even get into this one? I was thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing, like what is what is the God bless
Speaker 1: you behind this word human? Good sister, God bless you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But yeah, but how did this start? Oh? Man? Um?
Speaker 1: It started a couple of ways. One, um, you know,
Speaker 1: to your friend's point about, you know, having a vibrator.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes I'm I'm black because I heard the
Speaker 1: conversation earlier. I'm black. I know I'm black. I have
Speaker 1: a black experience. Okay. And you know how the women
Speaker 1: in our community didn't talk about our bodies was very
Speaker 1: um put us, put us behind, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so financially African Americans are behind you know what
Speaker 1: we're paid, we're behind and being paid our health care
Speaker 1: we're behind, and also in our sexual health that we're
Speaker 1: behind as well. And so I just looked at my
Speaker 1: own life a lot of the trauma that I've had
Speaker 1: had and to those out there continue to heal every
Speaker 1: day is a healing journey, um, and UH wanted to
Speaker 1: find a place that can not only just continue to
Speaker 1: heal me, but continue to heal other people in acceptance
Speaker 1: and um. One my aunt told me one day, she
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you don't really know much about
Speaker 1: your body. And you know, even as somebody who's had
Speaker 1: an abortion, um, um, you know you talk about those
Speaker 1: those how you how you even deal with that and
Speaker 1: what leads us to that and having the trauma. There's
Speaker 1: still trauma around even something that you choose to do,
Speaker 1: the trauma around things. And where's the pleasure in in
Speaker 1: any of this trauma? Where do we get to have
Speaker 1: that safe space? And so she told me to go
Speaker 1: to My aunt told me to go to a sex shop.
Speaker 1: And I went to a sex shop and it didn't
Speaker 1: look like me, and you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice, but you know, I don't see the
Speaker 1: Grandmama's I don't hear you know, the black culture. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see that ethnic culture. And so I thought
Speaker 1: that particular model was sanitized for just everybody to feel confident,
Speaker 1: but not people to feel comfortable. And so, um, I
Speaker 1: wanted to uh make a space. And I actually started
Speaker 1: selling on the street corners, honestly out of the off
Speaker 1: in my car, and uh, people would laugh at me.
Speaker 1: They laugh and you know, oh that's a sex lady,
Speaker 1: and giggle, and you know, I really did so much.
Speaker 1: But I had a box with dial doos and I
Speaker 1: had a box with porn, and I would just go
Speaker 1: into bars and places and bar stations and public transportation
Speaker 1: spaces to U sell sex toys. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I started shooting porn and I started directing porn. I
Speaker 1: wasn't in the porn, but I started to direct porn
Speaker 1: and produce porn. And uh, I used my work computer
Speaker 1: to hold my content, not that I was on the
Speaker 1: computer going to the internet spaces like you know, like
Speaker 1: the Hustler site he was talking about earlier. But um,
Speaker 1: and I got fired and I got fired again, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so tired of this, all of doings.
Speaker 1: Wanting to create space for people, and there's a true
Speaker 1: body acceptance that revolution that's really happening that people aren't
Speaker 1: really talking about. And so the last time that I
Speaker 1: got fired, I said to forget this. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it anymore. I'm gonna find my own space.
Speaker 1: And it took about fifty notes before a black man
Speaker 1: who since passed this woman I know who lost her
Speaker 1: husband as well, um, you know, decided to give me
Speaker 1: a chance. And that's where I opened up at seventeenth
Speaker 1: and Telegraph in downtown Oakland and today I've been there
Speaker 1: thirteen years. Next month another five years. Because you know,
Speaker 1: we all we already understand what displacement looks like in
Speaker 1: the residents for people and how they live in their communities,
Speaker 1: but there's also a business displacement that can happen that
Speaker 1: can change change the course of history just as well
Speaker 1: as you know, someone's residents. So I'm here now. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a whole journey. Yeah, that is beautiful. It was
Speaker 1: so much I had to take notes. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: more conversation after the break. I'm curious, like, because you
Speaker 1: talked about the comfort level and particularly the black experience
Speaker 1: around like their sexual health. Black people are low key,
Speaker 1: high key conservatives. So like, I'm curious, what are some
Speaker 1: of the Like some kind of standout moments are like
Speaker 1: things that you consistently hear from the black community, no
Speaker 1: matter what age, that you have to kind of debunk
Speaker 1: to get them to even open up to what it
Speaker 1: is you're talking about. Well, you know, people will think
Speaker 1: that we don't have enough customers or you know, like
Speaker 1: who's in here? Who coming in here? But you know,
Speaker 1: when you're average spin, it's almost like a hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: you don't need many people. And I think sometimes when
Speaker 1: people can speak transparently to people who protect their information
Speaker 1: on a regular they get to talk about things, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and you make it comfortable. Like
Speaker 1: when Cat comes in and he was like, damn, I've
Speaker 1: never seen a many dicks in my life talking about
Speaker 1: the dildal law. I said, well, you know, he looked
Speaker 1: like this, and I said, you've been a prison right
Speaker 1: And he said yeah. I said, what's the problem, what's
Speaker 1: the difference you've seen real ones these faith He's like,
Speaker 1: good point, good point, you know. And so if we
Speaker 1: start to commonplace, if we start to talk about our experiences,
Speaker 1: we've actually uh not been so conservative. You know, we
Speaker 1: were taking on this conservativeness because it's the only level
Speaker 1: of respectability some of us have control over. You know,
Speaker 1: an here, I'm about to run around here. If we
Speaker 1: had the money, then we'd be like respectable. But what
Speaker 1: we cling to shows, you know, our level of it.
Speaker 1: And I think that um commonplace. Putting in place like
Speaker 1: Essence Magazine. We've been in there a couple of times,
Speaker 1: you know, Black Publication, Jet Magazine. I knew the photographer
Speaker 1: who did all the Jet Beauties. He since passed a while,
Speaker 1: Lamont McLamore. He's a good friend of mine and I
Speaker 1: got to hang out with him a lot um and
Speaker 1: so even my my building owner before he passed, he
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of the Playboy black women out
Speaker 1: of Chicago. Like this is in our community and our culture.
Speaker 1: And as you talked about grandmother's earlier, about uh, we
Speaker 1: have not every grandmama was just at church, but not
Speaker 1: every grandmama who was at church has always been at church.
Speaker 1: We've always gone through these experiences. And what I do
Speaker 1: know about women, we have this level of power that
Speaker 1: we've used to navigate our way to success sometimes and
Speaker 1: that's been our beauty. That's been our body, that's been
Speaker 1: our between our legs, but definitely between our minds, because
Speaker 1: even to think about using your body, you have to
Speaker 1: first use your mind and say, I know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: And so I think there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are just conservative in the sense that they're not
Speaker 1: remembering where they came from and how they got where
Speaker 1: they are. You know. Some also basically the ideology that
Speaker 1: you're spitting doesn't actually match your lived experience, not at
Speaker 1: like if you actually spoke about your lived experience, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't match up to come on absolutely. However, though, y'all,
Speaker 1: let's keep it funky, because just because our grandmothers also
Speaker 1: were out and doing things doesn't mean they also knew
Speaker 1: how to really enjoy it. I don't know about y'all,
Speaker 1: but I feel like my grandmother was at the average grandma.
Speaker 1: She dressed like this, she did like that, and had
Speaker 1: all the sexy lingerie. But when we talked about sex,
Speaker 1: it was like, so it feels like and it feels
Speaker 1: like that has lasted. I was a cloud on us
Speaker 1: until like the nineties. I think me and you aga
Speaker 1: talking about this before and the nineties something hit Black
Speaker 1: Girls all of a sudden, we're talking about sucking debt
Speaker 1: and stuff can't right exactly. So to you, Nina, does
Speaker 1: it feel like things have kind of moved really fast
Speaker 1: because we went from we start sucking dick in the
Speaker 1: nineties too, Yeah, like you said, used to sell sex toys.
Speaker 1: I remember when all the girls, like I remember when
Speaker 1: that was a thing in the last years. But women parties, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the toy parties, like likereneurship. Yeah, and then it was
Speaker 1: you know, and then there's candy, and now it's you know,
Speaker 1: here we are talking about the roles like commonplace. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like we're moving a little at a good
Speaker 1: rate now? Like before we were slow, Like you said,
Speaker 1: we have to catch up, but it feels like we
Speaker 1: are catching up faster than we have were getting paid
Speaker 1: people right right, right? For sure? For sure. I think
Speaker 1: the mediums and the outlets in which we talk about
Speaker 1: sex has changed, Like you know, you got music, you
Speaker 1: got missed, Jill Scott, you know, talking about it. Anytime
Speaker 1: she talks about something, she put her hand on the mic.
Speaker 1: It's going viral. Right. We also have yeah, you have
Speaker 1: the you have the roles on Facebook and Instagram, so
Speaker 1: it's made in Cosmopolitan Essence magazine. It's made these outlets
Speaker 1: where people feel I have access to that UM allows
Speaker 1: us to catch up. It's the information. Otherwise we have
Speaker 1: to go to books and what I do know about
Speaker 1: especially black women reading some of the books. There aren't
Speaker 1: many black women writing books around. I would say there's
Speaker 1: Um sien Renee who does the Body is Not an Apology.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very well Taylor. Yeah, she's produced
Speaker 1: out of here in the Bay Area. Her book is
Speaker 1: really well written because I see a lot of sex
Speaker 1: education or sex empowerment books for white for other you know,
Speaker 1: beyond African Americans. Our bodies. Yeah, there there is nothing
Speaker 1: for African Americans, and so I think her book will
Speaker 1: actually stand the test of time. She's created the book, now,
Speaker 1: the workbook, the podcast, like we're learning to monetize our
Speaker 1: own experience, which which lends the fact that it makes
Speaker 1: it more reasonable for us to talk about our bodies
Speaker 1: because now this is the only thing that we own.
Speaker 1: So I was in a Pleasure Activism, which is a
Speaker 1: book out there, and I talked about uh me owning
Speaker 1: the yeah, me turning the key, opening the space because
Speaker 1: there's not much that we get to own, except our
Speaker 1: our bodies are experiences depending on your state. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now that people are telling us like, oh, if you
Speaker 1: did the roads, now you can talk about sex, you
Speaker 1: can make money. It's monetizing our experience a lot more
Speaker 1: than it was in the past. These YouTube videos, oh
Speaker 1: my god, in permercials all day line, the reviews. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that this is making money off of just
Speaker 1: doing reviews on the roads. I'm just yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: loved when you said that you had directed. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get back to toys because we definitely want
Speaker 1: to share. What are you know, the best toys. When
Speaker 1: you said that you directed porn, that that lit me
Speaker 1: up inside because I've always wanted to direct porn, like
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do it. I always felt like um,
Speaker 1: and I mean always always from the very beginning of
Speaker 1: when I saw it, especially now from where I come
Speaker 1: from to where it is now. Like I'm a big
Speaker 1: Vanessa del Rio fan and grew up on Vanessa del Rio.
Speaker 1: Love her her, yes, love her because she she actually
Speaker 1: enjoyed her some motherfucking queen you said. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen them all, I met him all all the while,
Speaker 1: like to see a black woman porn star who's walking
Speaker 1: in her power with her clothes on. They're like, you
Speaker 1: see that, but you don't see me, like just like
Speaker 1: some sexy ather fuckers like and it's not the because
Speaker 1: they understand the business. They understand the power of their
Speaker 1: skin that taking that ownership back. There's who's the who's
Speaker 1: the other famous porn star? You know? Have a woman
Speaker 1: met her? Janney Jackie is awesome. Um, that's all. There's
Speaker 1: only two. I know. Its peaky she sentiment. Yes, she's
Speaker 1: she's doing some still great work out there in the
Speaker 1: body positivity around some good, good African American performers out there,
Speaker 1: but they're good business women. I'm gonna say this, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw this out here. I really want a little
Speaker 1: more story. Can I just get a little story? You
Speaker 1: want some skin of Max? And I don't not a
Speaker 1: skin of Max, a little bit of story, a context.
Speaker 1: We know that this is what we're watching is gonna
Speaker 1: end up being some fucking yeah. But if I could
Speaker 1: just get a little bit of a reason, a little bit,
Speaker 1: I I personally, I'm getting trouble here. I like the
Speaker 1: stories when it's like my mama needed surgery and I
Speaker 1: that's like two minutes and that's all I need. I
Speaker 1: feel like she told it for mama, Like I like that,
Speaker 1: I need a little bit. What do you mean, what
Speaker 1: do you mean you don't have your homework? Oh, I'll
Speaker 1: I'll just let me whatever. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 1: I just need a little bit of a storyline. So
Speaker 1: it was Nina, you're a storyline check. I did. I did.
Speaker 1: I did a recipe and I just did. Like, so,
Speaker 1: so here's my formula for the porn I did. I
Speaker 1: talked to Diana Devote. You remember her? So, so she actually,
Speaker 1: uh so, I know her and she actually helped me
Speaker 1: to craft my She taught me. She says, I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I shot this porn. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1: You know. I did my own editing and everything. So
Speaker 1: I do my own camera work, my own editing, I
Speaker 1: had to camera someone else shoes with me. I do
Speaker 1: my own editing, my post, I did my after effects,
Speaker 1: I did everything. And so I took my piece to
Speaker 1: her and so we went over and she was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but I made that mistake. She
Speaker 1: was like, don't ever take your mistakes as not good enough.
Speaker 1: She was like, take your mistakes and make them your power.
Speaker 1: And so um, so from there I got my stylization.
Speaker 1: And so if you were to see my content, you'll
Speaker 1: see that there's more closer to a story narrative, if
Speaker 1: you will, closer to how clean the house is. You know,
Speaker 1: I've even had cooking a dinner we took We took
Speaker 1: that recipe and put it in the end as a
Speaker 1: recipe so people could do it. Uh and just really
Speaker 1: like talking to people, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I can see deal Scott U s a damn porn
Speaker 1: No seriously, but so wait on that note, tell us
Speaker 1: about some some direction that some might feel awkward to say,
Speaker 1: but that you've had to do. Yes, yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: so so I know I know jealous is still on it.
Speaker 1: So so this's I want to make. So so that's
Speaker 1: what I do with my storyline. And I think it
Speaker 1: also is about who does it. If you do it,
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna go it's gonna go viral. It's
Speaker 1: really gonna gonna viral. So you know, just just understand that.
Speaker 1: And even having a woman take a bath it is sexual,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, come on, Like I
Speaker 1: even had stuff like that in my porn, so you know,
Speaker 1: and the good thing is like for me, I'm here
Speaker 1: in Oakland, California right now, and uh, Porn Valley is
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, is in San fran Fernando Valley Terminals
Speaker 1: right like Sherminal Chatsworth and um, well now it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: But that porn, those porn films actually got me all
Speaker 1: over the country. Like this year, I just went to Berlin,
Speaker 1: I went to London, I went to getting wars around
Speaker 1: around the world for the work that I do, so
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So in teaching at the
Speaker 1: university where Einstein taught during the war, right before the war,
Speaker 1: and Angela Davis got her PhD, like come on, like,
Speaker 1: look at I'm looking at with my my body, my
Speaker 1: body positivity, my body rights has gotten me in my life,
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be here with y'all mouth it wasn't
Speaker 1: for sex sex toys. So so here's the thing. So
Speaker 1: I was at dying in his house one night she
Speaker 1: was shooting and the person was her partner who was
Speaker 1: shooting with this other woman. So she's doing the content
Speaker 1: and uh, all of a sudden, they're they're they're fucking
Speaker 1: and they're doing what they're doing. And then uh, it's
Speaker 1: like all right, cut, I need to rest. And then
Speaker 1: there's somebody you know, somebody might need to give head
Speaker 1: or somebody need to just take time. You know, you're
Speaker 1: seeing edits, you're seeing things put together, so you're having
Speaker 1: somebody say, oh, I need your legs this way, or
Speaker 1: I need you this way, or even if in my
Speaker 1: in my porn, I don't direct people that way. I
Speaker 1: just make sure that I have the right people together
Speaker 1: because see the kind of porn that I put together
Speaker 1: as agency. So there's a difference with some of the
Speaker 1: other porn houses where they say, well, I want you
Speaker 1: to do this. I don't know if that. I might
Speaker 1: invite another guy right now and you're gonna do DP.
Speaker 1: The woman may or may not want to do that,
Speaker 1: but the money on the table in the contract sets
Speaker 1: that they have to do information they might have to
Speaker 1: do this. But in my films, it's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: just want to put the right people together and making
Speaker 1: sure like hey, everybody's sober, no drugs, so you can
Speaker 1: hear the other person consent. If they tell you to stop,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop. All I'm doing is documenting there their sex.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you guys. One time we
Speaker 1: were we did I don't know what what episode we
Speaker 1: did with somebody jumped in the comments and like, um,
Speaker 1: then I tell you guys about how somebody suggested this
Speaker 1: particular site that they called ethnically sourced and so like
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was such a thing. They
Speaker 1: called it pro black Ethnically sourced porn is what it
Speaker 1: was called, right, that's what it's called. So it's uh.
Speaker 1: And so I went to the site and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta check this out, like what's this that?
Speaker 1: But but what's interesting is there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: on the site. Like one of the things that they
Speaker 1: have are things like they call pleasure portraits, where people
Speaker 1: just have taken photos of themselves, like pleasuring themselves. The
Speaker 1: porn that is current to me, it is just a
Speaker 1: lot of black print. But this isn't like that, Jill.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, Like, that's what I That's
Speaker 1: what I hate. I really hate mechanical um when it
Speaker 1: looks like the person is under the rest or they're
Speaker 1: they're stressed, or you know that I gotta get this money.
Speaker 1: The mentality of I gotta get this money. When it
Speaker 1: looks like the mentality like I'm here and I'm going, oh,
Speaker 1: but really I'm counting, you know how much I need
Speaker 1: in order to like, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: when there's like a deadness in the eyes. That's the
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about with Vanessa del Real that
Speaker 1: she was always present in every shot. Missy Stone is
Speaker 1: like that Stone. Is that a good Yes, she's goods
Speaker 1: Missy Stone. She went whoever she went, she went them
Speaker 1: like girl male male girl. Whatever you gotta until you
Speaker 1: gotta come to porn convention with me this year? When
Speaker 1: is it? Listen has a lot of actually performs each year.
Speaker 1: I'll be like I heard a rumor said, and then
Speaker 1: Cardi B performed. I was in the front row. I
Speaker 1: heard her and Cardi B perform at motherfucking show and
Speaker 1: that was a show. I've never seen a sing like that.
Speaker 1: Is there a black porn Convention yet, y'all na Cuigeria, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have one, but it's not as well attended. It's more,
Speaker 1: it's more you'll get you'll get awards out of it,
Speaker 1: but you know, you just it's the backing Gia I forgot.
Speaker 1: I forgot her guy's name, you would know him, but
Speaker 1: um DeVault his name is Alexander the Ball. He used
Speaker 1: to be married to the Diana the bo So they
Speaker 1: got together and created the Like this Black Award show
Speaker 1: really good. You ever just really want to go get down?
Speaker 1: It's it's like guilty. Uh. And I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name right now because I haven't gone it years sometimes
Speaker 1: they haven't. But um, those are really good because it's
Speaker 1: also networking opportunities. I look at each person that goes
Speaker 1: to a foreign award who's in the business and not
Speaker 1: just for me. Um. I got into business because I
Speaker 1: would go to the convention. Now I met Diana devote man.
Speaker 1: She was the goddess and you know, I've watched her
Speaker 1: films and everything, but just to see her would close on.
Speaker 1: I was like more in love and uh, but just
Speaker 1: to see her understand her business acumen was like even
Speaker 1: even greater because it's not that you can do that
Speaker 1: to your body all of those years and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like where do you see yourself? Do
Speaker 1: you see yourself behind the camera? Do you see yourself
Speaker 1: in another industry? Because you're gaining the same skill sets
Speaker 1: that you can transfer to another industry, and that's what
Speaker 1: she did. But just to see how each person, each
Speaker 1: performer that I'm associated with, or I know even Mr
Speaker 1: Marcus out there, Um, you know a lot of the
Speaker 1: black performers that they're basically businesses, each person, their body,
Speaker 1: how they get access to create products with their names
Speaker 1: on it. Everybody is a business in this industry, which
Speaker 1: I really like. And I think, you know, to to
Speaker 1: miss Jill's point of like somebody thinking about the money
Speaker 1: because it is so critical to perform. It's like you know,
Speaker 1: being out there with Lebron shooting forty for the night.
Speaker 1: If you you're not Lebron, if you don't shoot forty
Speaker 1: every night, and so you have to shoot forty so
Speaker 1: you can get that to that next playoff if you will,
Speaker 1: that next game, and so in that next game is
Speaker 1: not just being here and and being you know, with
Speaker 1: the porn and actually having intercourse, but it's also now
Speaker 1: to to take that to camping sites like only Fans
Speaker 1: or a Patreon, or creating your own sex product or
Speaker 1: becoming this GFE where people just want to date you
Speaker 1: for money, and finding other ways to monetize your whole,
Speaker 1: uh sex industry experience. Like there's a whole so I
Speaker 1: you know, when people say sex workers, they're automatically gonna
Speaker 1: think somebody is sucking and sucking, and that's not totally true.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are creating experiences and also only
Speaker 1: fans is given them the opportunity to stay behind the
Speaker 1: camera and not do as much as they would have
Speaker 1: to do if they were on poorn. You know, So
Speaker 1: the whole spectrum of sex work has for me has
Speaker 1: really changed. But it's also very hard to um narrate
Speaker 1: that to other people who only think about sex work
Speaker 1: as sex. We're gonna take a quick break and then
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. You know what I love about
Speaker 1: your energy that I think um is like super important
Speaker 1: across any industry is this kind of respect for people
Speaker 1: who paved the way for you, Like your excitement about
Speaker 1: working with people who understand the industry and who are
Speaker 1: willing to teach you. So you have like a twofold
Speaker 1: relationship here that I see that's really just been important
Speaker 1: in your story where it's like you have this passion
Speaker 1: for this work, you found people who have history in
Speaker 1: this work and skinning the game no pun intended, that
Speaker 1: are not only have that, but they're willing to reach
Speaker 1: back and teach you and give you their hands on feedback,
Speaker 1: because I mean, how many filmmakers or how many filmmakers
Speaker 1: can say, oh, I met someone who I deeply admire
Speaker 1: who literally looked at my work, critiqued it, and gave
Speaker 1: me some encouragement as to how to move forward in
Speaker 1: the industry. I just think that that's a really beautiful
Speaker 1: thing that has happened specifically with you. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's not a standalone experience. So I just really want
Speaker 1: to point that out because in a lot of industries,
Speaker 1: and even the industry that you know, the music industry
Speaker 1: where we are, there's a lot of the disconnected with that,
Speaker 1: whereas like there's no reach back. Yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 1: I can't. I appreciate you acknowledging that because I think
Speaker 1: the adult is um people more serious that inside, and
Speaker 1: people think of us on the outside, right, they think
Speaker 1: I'm going to a foreign convention and they're thinking, like
Speaker 1: we're having sex everywhere. Not to say that that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: not to say I'm not excited about seeing that, but um,
Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you can get a
Speaker 1: line of credit thirty dollars from a company to get
Speaker 1: products in and they're just gonna send it to you.
Speaker 1: You know. Now that that makes me come on day long,
Speaker 1: you know. And so it's not about just the put
Speaker 1: out that people see what. It's also about the potential
Speaker 1: in the industry. And I think because when people use
Speaker 1: their body, the detriment of like AIDS, hiv, uh STD
Speaker 1: simplest those things like each day can be your day
Speaker 1: to be done, you know, And so each day I
Speaker 1: think people are like, let me do my best to
Speaker 1: get more people involved in this. And then one thing
Speaker 1: is I'm on the I'm on the retail side. Most people,
Speaker 1: you know, most blacks that I know that aren't competitive
Speaker 1: with me when I was in the film side, we're there.
Speaker 1: On the other side, there's very few African Americans owning
Speaker 1: brick and mortar stores or operating at the level that
Speaker 1: I operate. And I'm not saying that others don't operate
Speaker 1: at that level, but they're not reaching out to say, hey,
Speaker 1: like I've been um nominated for a couple of marketing awards,
Speaker 1: national marketing awards. So it's not just in community awards.
Speaker 1: It's not just best retail store in the country several
Speaker 1: times through a d n N xviis. But it's about
Speaker 1: my management skills as well in the industry. And even
Speaker 1: before I had the store, when I was selling out
Speaker 1: the trunk of my car, I was going to these
Speaker 1: events and saying, can I get on the panel because
Speaker 1: I was doing so much studying. And I was watching
Speaker 1: this guy who owns some stores here, and before he
Speaker 1: bought these stores, he owned this other warehouse in South
Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's one funcle will roll up in Rose
Speaker 1: Royce and I was next door next to him my Honda,
Speaker 1: and he would never say anything to me, But it
Speaker 1: was the black people in his business that was sit
Speaker 1: me down at his table and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And it's just like now we compete. So never never,
Speaker 1: never does somebody that you you know, you never know
Speaker 1: when they'll come back to you. Always show that kindness
Speaker 1: because you never know how that impression impacts the relationship
Speaker 1: going forward, you know, And have you had that experience
Speaker 1: yet where somebody's now walked up to you and said,
Speaker 1: because of you, I see that I can now do this,
Speaker 1: Like how is that going within the generation under you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, that's an important question. A lot of people
Speaker 1: will ask me, like on on Instagram, and people will
Speaker 1: send them my way and say, well, you know, how
Speaker 1: do I get going? And I say, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: tell you. All you gotta do is start. Some people
Speaker 1: don't want to take the money it takes to invest
Speaker 1: in failure, you know what I mean, Like you have
Speaker 1: to be willing to really invest in failure because you
Speaker 1: don't know if it's success yet. M and a lot
Speaker 1: of people are just not willing to do that, and
Speaker 1: so they'll go back and tell a few people like man,
Speaker 1: she she didn't talk to me, She didn't tell me.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm putting it out there on YouTube
Speaker 1: for you to watch it. I'm telling you where to go.
Speaker 1: I wrote the book about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like, don't take just because someone is telling
Speaker 1: you know that, it's stopping you. It's telling you to
Speaker 1: keep going, it's telling you know right now, but I
Speaker 1: don't have that time. But you can start. And so
Speaker 1: sometimes people want you to guide them and put their
Speaker 1: hand on it, and it's like you you really, you
Speaker 1: really have to take your hand and put it in
Speaker 1: your pocket, come out with your money and investing yourself first,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just hard, Like I'm running for office.
Speaker 1: I thought it was all hard because I had I
Speaker 1: had that, But over here they need money. They running
Speaker 1: for city council in California right now, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a real hot seats, first seat in any seas. I
Speaker 1: think they don't understand city council run that run. You
Speaker 1: feel the city council runs the ones the show baby.
Speaker 1: So so let me let me finish answer that question.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about what people are saying about how
Speaker 1: I'm supporting them, but the people who see it the
Speaker 1: encouragement that I give their coming back and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: because of you, I did this. And it's not just
Speaker 1: in the adult business, it's in life that African Americans,
Speaker 1: black people rebirth yourself with the audacity that you can
Speaker 1: do any damn thing. Say one more time. Rebirth yourself
Speaker 1: with the audacity that you can do anything. You do
Speaker 1: not need permission. We have to stop looking for permission.
Speaker 1: I give people coming in the stores and say, you know,
Speaker 1: asking to buy a certain type of sex toys, and
Speaker 1: what do you think, I'm like, you got it. That's
Speaker 1: all they're looking for permission and being seen and we
Speaker 1: have to stop looking for that and see ourselves. So,
Speaker 1: you know, like the woman who has never had a
Speaker 1: sex tour turned on her sex toy. It's not just
Speaker 1: about the sex toy. It's like you have permission already.
Speaker 1: You don't even need to go out and buy anything.
Speaker 1: You have you you know, when are we going to
Speaker 1: be comfortable with us being enough to ballot? Was actually
Speaker 1: gonna ask you that. I was like, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: listen for the business, for all of all of the success.
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, what about us. Girls are
Speaker 1: just just climbing and bed with with good old and
Speaker 1: so listen and don't forget about the girls that just
Speaker 1: go hands free because you didn't wait, am I about
Speaker 1: to put you on? And the just an't gonna tell
Speaker 1: you come? Oh okay, I thought you were talking about
Speaker 1: like humping your pillow or something. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could, you could do that, but the humping the
Speaker 1: pillow is basically with me, kind of like the same
Speaker 1: thing as keeping until you come without the pillow. Hands free,
Speaker 1: baby hands ability. Since we started this damn pack, I
Speaker 1: wasn't bragging, I just was. And she's and she's also
Speaker 1: thrown me under the bus as well. Because I have
Speaker 1: a lot of children. You think that my key wi
Speaker 1: don't work. But I wasn't doing that that sub I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that because you're still like, you're still enjoying sex.
Speaker 1: I know that thing tight. But you know, some people
Speaker 1: will come in and say, well, they'll come in with
Speaker 1: a group of friends and like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't need anything. I'm like, you're right, you don't need anything.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when we start to just normalize
Speaker 1: what we're working with what we got, but also informing
Speaker 1: people about what else is out there, because it's like
Speaker 1: talking to a man about anal anal play, I won't
Speaker 1: say a sex anal play or anal stimulation before prostate cancer.
Speaker 1: Is a different conversation after prostate cancer because they under
Speaker 1: stand the impact of not checking on themselves. They understand
Speaker 1: the impact of not milking themselves, and so it's a
Speaker 1: whole different conversation now because now they just don't they
Speaker 1: can't ejaculate, or they lost their erections, so the conversation
Speaker 1: is different. I think if you start to just talk
Speaker 1: about sex. One Jewish lady, I know, Miss Jill, says
Speaker 1: something about Shiba earlier, one Jewish lady told me, she says,
Speaker 1: you know, if you people, and I know she was
Speaker 1: talking about African Americans, said, if you talk about money
Speaker 1: the way you do with sex, you'll have more of it.
Speaker 1: So I started talking about money the way I was
Speaker 1: talking about sets just at the sex people. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: mentality shift, the mentality ship. I don't talk about it enough.
Speaker 1: We talk about it in secret, just like we talk
Speaker 1: about Doney in secret. You know, I really believe in
Speaker 1: divine intervention. I know that that kind of sounds like, oh,
Speaker 1: you just have your hands off the wheel. Not necessarily
Speaker 1: because once, once you get directed in the area, it's
Speaker 1: up to you to to fulfill that the desire. Once
Speaker 1: you get there, once you you know, you see it. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't drop the thing. I love that your aunt introduced
Speaker 1: you to your body. I love that, and I love
Speaker 1: that you took that and created an entire existence for
Speaker 1: yourself and your blessing people. You're you're you're informing people,
Speaker 1: educating people, and exciting people. You know, in sexuality. I
Speaker 1: just I think that's phenomenal. And it's all areas of it.
Speaker 1: It's all areas, even even the financial aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I think that is brilliant. I'm gonna give you one. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a gift. Now. I'm sure somebody else in
Speaker 1: the world has thought of this, but I believe that
Speaker 1: there should be um a thousand dollar and up dildo
Speaker 1: that is designed specifically for your vagina. Oh that's like
Speaker 1: the Nipsey Hucks so mix tape. So what do you
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Like, what will this do? I'm
Speaker 1: saying that it will specifically, it's tailor kiss like like
Speaker 1: an ear, like when you do the in your monitors
Speaker 1: and they pour the wax in your ear and yes,
Speaker 1: oh well wait a minute, now, how are we gonna
Speaker 1: through that? I don't know if are we gonna do that?
Speaker 1: Jill that you put the mold in your ear? You know?
Speaker 1: So you you you pull it out, it hardens and
Speaker 1: you pull it about my COUCHI make it make it
Speaker 1: work the same idea inside of the vagina. You put it.
Speaker 1: You put the phone inside of the vagina and hardened,
Speaker 1: and then you pull it out and we have this
Speaker 1: the shape of little vagina? Can it be a soft
Speaker 1: hard If you guys can see our facial expressions on
Speaker 1: this podcast, we scratched our head I just if my
Speaker 1: grandchild is listening, I just I just want to say
Speaker 1: my grand babies to listen to how sexually healthy your
Speaker 1: grandma is? Yeah, yay, is so sexually healthy. Little But see,
Speaker 1: you know, when we start to talk about it from
Speaker 1: that perspective, I think, you know, it's simple, you know,
Speaker 1: when you know, we can shock your kids when you
Speaker 1: express to them what it's like what their body should
Speaker 1: be doing. You can't show everybody in Oakland young girls
Speaker 1: can't really walk outside by themselves, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's hard. That's hard to stomach to see,
Speaker 1: Like you're looking around like who we are or who
Speaker 1: who trying to get her? Like you know, they're really
Speaker 1: taking young girls and putting them in a prostitution around here.
Speaker 1: But we we also have to equip your girls were
Speaker 1: talking about those experiences, young boys to talking about those experiences,
Speaker 1: because I think that equips in with protecting themselves when
Speaker 1: they're in those situations. Right. And and also too, it's
Speaker 1: it's important to talk to people in general, right because
Speaker 1: we we make Okay, you're about to get into like
Speaker 1: public policy, so you know, we go into making policy
Speaker 1: to quote unquote address things that are happening in our community,
Speaker 1: but we don't talk to anybody or really do any
Speaker 1: research around these people's people's experiences or talk to them.
Speaker 1: And our young people are having conversations with their peers,
Speaker 1: and their peers have all kinds of experiences, and yet
Speaker 1: when they come to us as the elders of the community,
Speaker 1: it's like they're lost. They feel like, oh, well, this
Speaker 1: isn't matching up. I can't talk to you about what
Speaker 1: I've experienced. I can't talk to you about what my
Speaker 1: peers are experiencing. We don't have a place to actually
Speaker 1: really talk about this thing in a way that we
Speaker 1: walk away feeling empowered. It's just like, Okay, keep it
Speaker 1: to myself, don't tell it's a shame, their shame around it.
Speaker 1: There's blame around it. There's you know, all kinds of
Speaker 1: like negativity that goes into it. Instead of just having
Speaker 1: an opportunity to just listen. I feel like stories are
Speaker 1: just not told. People just don't talk about They listen
Speaker 1: to the music I'm talking. I'm listening to much. I
Speaker 1: love a song, but I know that I thought you
Speaker 1: was feeling me. Yeah, but but yeah, that dude so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but listening to that music is also about sexuality and
Speaker 1: the expression of things. And if we're not talking about children,
Speaker 1: the music is talking to your children. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you all arrive with the music is talking about you.
Speaker 1: Just see how the child is feeling about responding to
Speaker 1: the content. What does that make you do? How does
Speaker 1: it make you feel? You know, I just want you
Speaker 1: to know about You can listen to that, but what
Speaker 1: is the implications of the actions in the music? If
Speaker 1: you're acting outside of the music? You know, I like that,
Speaker 1: what are the implications? Yeah? How does that make you feel? Like?
Speaker 1: You can tell? You ye that? Yeah, it's just like
Speaker 1: the drill music. It's great. I listened to I listened
Speaker 1: to all everything. If you're on Instagram, I'm on sound
Speaker 1: listen to everything. I'm like, these cats are so damned created.
Speaker 1: But there's implications to the music if you acted out.
Speaker 1: I also, I also want to throw this in there,
Speaker 1: that that everything that you do, the sexual stuff that
Speaker 1: you do, it's just it's not for everybody. Everybody can't
Speaker 1: get your A game, thabe. Yeah, you can't give everybody
Speaker 1: your A game. So how do you put out a beat?
Speaker 1: How do you put out b and c oh, I
Speaker 1: just don't give all the you don't give it all
Speaker 1: the cherries, and so it's like like you don't, you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't, I don't. Just kind of what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: head and no boo swallowing, swallowing that a game. No,
Speaker 1: everybody can't get that. That ship is thick. Have you ever?
Speaker 1: Everybody can't get that. I can't swallow everybody's DNA. So
Speaker 1: you so you you vibe on it, but you don't swallow.
Speaker 1: I um, I would think you want y'all see me
Speaker 1: in the corner. I'm just the corner. How do you?
Speaker 1: How do you? How do you? What's the what's the
Speaker 1: logic behind not giving your a game? Well, fish your
Speaker 1: body for some you get what you need. You know
Speaker 1: what you came to get and you know how to
Speaker 1: maneuver to get it. Yeah, ma'am, there are others where
Speaker 1: you know each other and you can go all the
Speaker 1: way in every possible fan to see that you want.
Speaker 1: You can live that right now. But not everybody can
Speaker 1: get that. Some people will will just get the the
Speaker 1: squeaky whip dick got kick up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then somebody else will get that cash shot up.
Speaker 1: Do don't y'all think that's okay? As long as you
Speaker 1: want like like address, I mean attached some sort of
Speaker 1: kind of moral hierarchy to that. It's a b C.
Speaker 1: It's more, it's higher, you know, it's it's hierarchy for
Speaker 1: me just too, as a woman who've been dating all
Speaker 1: her life. I got to say something for the nigga
Speaker 1: that decide or we decide that this is like, so, yeah, someone,
Speaker 1: is that more about you? It's me? Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: that one thing that you're saving for that person? Swallowing
Speaker 1: he said, swallowing he said, spit it out of swallowing
Speaker 1: it again? But is that because you think that secretly
Speaker 1: he believes that that makes him more special? Like? What
Speaker 1: is it? Is it really? I mean, like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is there no part of this as teenage rule that
Speaker 1: I may come on ya all of me? The first trust,
Speaker 1: the all of me has to have trust. I need
Speaker 1: to trust this person. Now. I might be attracted to
Speaker 1: someone and want to, you know, spend since spend some
Speaker 1: good old loving time or not fucking time, I'll say,
Speaker 1: And but why is your mouth more special than your vagina?
Speaker 1: My mouth is as a special, stop making sense money maker.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time for your sense making? Man, It's set.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. This is what it is. I'm still
Speaker 1: a black girl of the nineties. This is true. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to pretend like I didn't get caught
Speaker 1: up in a lot of respectability. I mean, this is me.
Speaker 1: I'm just just trying to free I just want to
Speaker 1: liberate my mind. I'm trying to decolonize mine. Right and also, Asian,
Speaker 1: I already gave up my booty hole. Asian, I already
Speaker 1: gave up my booty hole. It's all I got left.
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Speaker 1: so if you don't want to put all that in
Speaker 1: you you don't have to. And all the controls are separate,
Speaker 1: so nothing just turns on everything. It's a control for
Speaker 1: each thing. I say the rose because the roses the rose, okay,
Speaker 1: and it's but which so which one this is one?
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to say. It's like when I started.
Speaker 1: When we started, there was one section, then it became ten.
Speaker 1: There is twenty. I will actually tell you it's called
Speaker 1: the Dane Air. What I like about the day Air
Speaker 1: is um it is silicone body throughout. If you know
Speaker 1: the rose, people you know see the rose and I
Speaker 1: want ross. The rose has a small opening. I know.
Speaker 1: There's some big clips out there, and so with the
Speaker 1: Dane Air it allows flexibility around to somebody getting the
Speaker 1: right and we'll see over there right, you know. Sorry, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all know y'all got every clip. Ain't to say every
Speaker 1: clip ain't small. You've got some big clips out there
Speaker 1: that you know. Again, it allows you to u envelope yourself,
Speaker 1: and it's really good for trans men who have huge
Speaker 1: clips because of testosterone taking. Wow, I never even thought
Speaker 1: the result of that. So that makes sense because intomically
Speaker 1: it's all the same. Actually, when you before you before
Speaker 1: you form in the womb, the whole thing is the
Speaker 1: same thing. Your cletterus and the penis are all the same.
Speaker 1: It's actually the same. One just stopped growing another one,
Speaker 1: so it's the same. How big your clint is atrophies
Speaker 1: over time, so keep it going, keep stimulating it, keep
Speaker 1: so it's like it's like any other muscle exercise. So
Speaker 1: he said, you still need to have orgasms. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you have a partner, have an orgasm at
Speaker 1: least every other day. It's about sexual health because your
Speaker 1: blood vessels keep opening up down there, and as you
Speaker 1: get older and less lubrication, those are the things that
Speaker 1: come about sometimes you like my my vajorita ain't operate
Speaker 1: the same. It ain't like something's wrong, it's just time
Speaker 1: and your attention to it. So your sexual health needs
Speaker 1: attention to detail, not just another person to help you out. Trophy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta do like I did and buy y'all Mama's
Speaker 1: a rose like I did, like listen the Dame Air,
Speaker 1: but there's from film or Dame Air, and uh there's
Speaker 1: another one called the Satisfied pro Plus. Uh, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of suctions out there. I like this particular section.
Speaker 1: I know I said the Rose, but not really the Rose,
Speaker 1: but it's g motion Dame Air, the Satisfied pro Plus
Speaker 1: and it's pro plus because uh, this suction. Its suction
Speaker 1: is suction, you know, depending on what the opening looks
Speaker 1: like for me. But this one actually has a vibrator
Speaker 1: built in too, so you know you want a little extra.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't shoot it, don't shoot out tunina, and
Speaker 1: they want, like we need it's shooting out the air,
Speaker 1: right like yeah, people think it's sucking, but it's like fluttering.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody, it's like a butterfly kiss on your
Speaker 1: on your pros on your clip. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is, but if it sounds like this is great. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we we've got it. We've got a black business
Speaker 1: started from literally the wheels, okay, you know, in the
Speaker 1: back of the car pulling out buildos and videos. Now
Speaker 1: she's two businesses. Um, she's she's been nominated for for
Speaker 1: all kinds of awards at this point, for direction and
Speaker 1: for business and one and then then then um and
Speaker 1: she's she's running for city council. Um. Look, this is
Speaker 1: that intervention moving gag. So proud of you. You are
Speaker 1: a crtually taking care of your community. Yeah, I am too.
Speaker 1: I don't even at the end of the day, what
Speaker 1: we at the end of the day, what we need
Speaker 1: is people representing from a place that's liberating and this
Speaker 1: is this is a person who has a liberation mentality. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna take that mentality in all the work
Speaker 1: that you do. It's like it's it's it's cross disciplined.
Speaker 1: So I kind of just love that you're taking your
Speaker 1: work and your mentality and your philosophy into public policy.
Speaker 1: This is wonderful news for Oakland. I love Oakland, actually Oakland,
Speaker 1: I deeply love and the history in Oakland around black
Speaker 1: liberation and the fact that this is the work that
Speaker 1: you're doing and you're writing downtown Oakland and you're pulling
Speaker 1: that that energy and synergy into the you know, or
Speaker 1: adding to the history of the city in that way.
Speaker 1: I just super impressed. Proud, you know, all of the
Speaker 1: proud everything she said, thanks lady standing by the gate beautiful.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, sometimes sometimes take naps and stuff.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I gotta get real quiet after the show. Stuff
Speaker 1: happens to me. And then you know, it could be
Speaker 1: like an hour or so later, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking. I'm just trying to decompress and get right
Speaker 1: or whatever, playing for the next move. And I come
Speaker 1: outside and there's Nina with this gift of life, a
Speaker 1: gift on the bus like a tour bus. That's a
Speaker 1: got got, got, got got guy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's a long ride. Do you normally drive from place
Speaker 1: to place? Yes? And then typically my my toys are
Speaker 1: in my luggage, not necessarily on the bus with me.
Speaker 1: I've learned now, you know, you take the yeah to
Speaker 1: take them with you on the bus. Crazy that she
Speaker 1: would have brought the basket, just the whole Nina basket.
Speaker 1: That you have a mask throughout the years some of
Speaker 1: them experience, they traveled, and you know, I can't say
Speaker 1: I took the best care of him. I kind of
Speaker 1: threw them in the bag and was trying to get
Speaker 1: to the next stage. But you know, you or the
Speaker 1: special treatment she could always write an email tell us
Speaker 1: what she needs and she got it too, so you know,
Speaker 1: so that's that's real talk. So I don't know sex.
Speaker 1: Sex is fun, it's it's great to talk about. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy that I'm here today to be
Speaker 1: able to share with people that you know, you can
Speaker 1: think about sex in different ways. Thank you for too much.
Speaker 1: I guess I feel like we're remissed without asking this
Speaker 1: last question, which is what's on your heart? It's on
Speaker 1: my heart. That's a good one to know. I need.
Speaker 1: I need a woman right now to be in some
Speaker 1: lager right besige of my feet and actually cook me
Speaker 1: some hot water, corn bread is some grains and some
Speaker 1: chilling asking a lot as I ain't seen, ain't. I
Speaker 1: gotta called my grandmamaa call, got the moment, she got
Speaker 1: the boo, she ain't gonna grab my feet. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy by all my health. That's my heart.
Speaker 1: My heart is all my health, you know, just to
Speaker 1: just to make sure that can fulfill these last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks and get to November eight, because yes, yes,
Speaker 1: November eight, and um because November nine already booked my
Speaker 1: ticket to an international country. So I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: Win or win. You know good, you did the work
Speaker 1: to relax, win or win. We hope, we hope you
Speaker 1: find your foot rubber boat. Yeah, make the right. She's lazy,
Speaker 1: she's working. Thank you so much. Friends. It's evident that
Speaker 1: it is about our mental health, and it's about our
Speaker 1: spiritual health that matters, about our physical health, and it's
Speaker 1: also about our sexual health. And the line of the
Speaker 1: day is for sure the thing scared the hell out
Speaker 1: of me. Your clip can after fee Oh fuck that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to Jay dot Ilga podcasts.
Speaker 1: Always it's a pleasure. How do you eat an elephant?
Speaker 1: One by it? Kind? Hey, listeners, it's Amber, the producer
Speaker 1: of Jada il Here. That was such a spicy episode.
Speaker 1: I am so inspired and excited about the work Nina
Speaker 1: is doing in her community while advocating for pleasure. Nina
Speaker 1: shared several toys in this episode, all of which you
Speaker 1: can find in her shop Feel More Adult. I'll drop
Speaker 1: a link in the show notes. If you want to
Speaker 1: get a deeper understanding of how you relate to pleasure,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend a series on Netflix called The Principles
Speaker 1: of Pleasure. It's truly a deep dive into finding deeper
Speaker 1: intimacy with ourselves and others. Hi, if you have comments
Speaker 1: on something he said in this episode called eight six six,
Speaker 1: Hey Jill, if you want to add to this conversation,
Speaker 1: that's eight six six nine five four five five. Don't
Speaker 1: forget to tell us your name and the episode you're
Speaker 1: referring to. You might just hear your message on a
Speaker 1: future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents
Speaker 1: Jay dot l the podcast I Love Your nut As.
Speaker 1: I have a question, though, are you all really trying
Speaker 1: to tell me? Because because you know, every time we
Speaker 1: have a conversation, I feel like somebody pulls my eyes
Speaker 1: apart every time. So are you trying to tell me
Speaker 1: that you you give everybody your A game? Everybody gets
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