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Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot im a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Hi, Hi man, It is such a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to be where you are right now. This is

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Speaker 1: Jay dot Ilga podcast. It's means Jill Scott am I

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Speaker 1: only hear my s start friends, Layah st Clair, Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, freaks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: freaks and the biggest freak of mamall agent grading Bangel.

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Speaker 1: Somebody give me an airborne. We're a little freaky today.

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Speaker 1: As you've noticed, we've we've said freaky a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: and um there. First of all, I want to say

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Speaker 1: to you that there's nothing wrong being freak. Goat Derek.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing I said, eot damn it and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with it, not damn thing. Nothing as your grandmama.

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Speaker 1: Huh Okay, that's her grandma. Okay, maybe just the one grandma.

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Speaker 1: We're just going it's that one on one side, just

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Speaker 1: one grandma back. They don't go too far back. It

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Speaker 1: don't actually know what. I don't believe that. Actually I

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Speaker 1: see I feel like we have. We've fallen victim to

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Speaker 1: the grandma stereotype. Every Body grandma wasn't making no pies.

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Speaker 1: Somebody grandma was running the whole house like somebody's grandma

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Speaker 1: got a pistol and you know what I'm saying, somebody, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these these as real grandma's. We need to like rewrite

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Speaker 1: this grandma's story because they grandma ain't got apple pies

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Speaker 1: and ship wearing a movie all day. You feel mine? No, no,

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Speaker 1: ma'am not mine. I've told you a few stories about

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Speaker 1: my nana. So grateful for that. And look, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you something else. I'm grateful for every time time

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Speaker 1: that I've been like performing in Oakland, this woman, this woman, this, this,

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Speaker 1: this this huh, this person will show up after the show,

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Speaker 1: be waiting by the gate faithfully. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: for years, years, not one or two or three. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking consistently, and she will show up and have me

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Speaker 1: these amazing vibrators every time. An evolution of vibrators you have, Jill,

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Speaker 1: are you saying you have an evolution of vibrators? We

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Speaker 1: gotta get our new one that wants to be that's

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Speaker 1: that's last season. Nina Joiner who gives out the best

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Speaker 1: vibrators ever. We are that community coming through. Come on listen,

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Speaker 1: she has feel more adult. Um, are you you have

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Speaker 1: are you. You have several stories now and you have

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Speaker 1: two stories. Oh oh yeah, the pandemic catch all inside.

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Speaker 1: So I took an opportunity, you know, generational wealth, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm actually gonna try not

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Speaker 1: to be totally upset and offended because I come to

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Speaker 1: Opland literally like twice even, and I'm like, I need

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Speaker 1: to I need some of this love. I need some

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Speaker 1: of this love. It's a brag, like it's a it's

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Speaker 1: an official flex, you know, because I'll I'll be so

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Speaker 1: happy to have the gift. Like how thoughtful. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the road. You know, I can't be smashing

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Speaker 1: everybody I meet it. I mean, you can't do it

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Speaker 1: with your partner, do right, let me and let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this, like why Jill, and do you do

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Speaker 1: this to other artists? Special? Okay, so here's here's the

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Speaker 1: the outline of the story. The outline of the story

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Speaker 1: is that my store is right on the block where

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Speaker 1: they form all the performers are, and so um it's

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Speaker 1: always you know, for me, it's I don't know. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think we have to continue to play in life,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be that kid that we're nurturing all

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Speaker 1: the time because that kid is always there, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to say that I'm always working and

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Speaker 1: I can't do these things, it's very limiting. And it

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Speaker 1: was right there, and so I would just take the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to actually go over and beat you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the black performers because they're coming into predominantly Almoso,

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Speaker 1: a predominantly white community, performing and I would just sit

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Speaker 1: at the game, even if just to see them because

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Speaker 1: you know, in the early days, I really couldn't leave

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Speaker 1: just been good to to see what's going on behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes and also be that that greeting, you know,

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Speaker 1: that welcome wagon for people coming into the city to

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Speaker 1: know what was where to go eat, Like her people

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Speaker 1: come and where we're we go eat, you know, don't

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Speaker 1: business right here. And so I think that for me,

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Speaker 1: it's been about you know, meeting those um black performers

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Speaker 1: in her team, her people, her have always been very receptive.

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Speaker 1: So each time and it's just like I just want

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Speaker 1: to continue to see that and so that's that's what

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Speaker 1: it's that's what it's been about. So and it's a

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Speaker 1: community based initiative. Yes, yeah, we love that. We love

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Speaker 1: that time to finally met the family soul come to Oakland,

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Speaker 1: can you please? Well, I don't know where this Where

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Speaker 1: is this venue? What venue was? It's called the Fox Oakland.

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Speaker 1: I just saw I yeah, I just saw great show.

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Speaker 1: I'd be here. That's asked you. Did you get a

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Speaker 1: chance to bless her? I did not. I did not

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Speaker 1: because her her guy was like, well, she doesn't really

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Speaker 1: like to meet anybody, but you know, so I'll see

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Speaker 1: the teens and everything. But I saw her at the

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Speaker 1: Berkeley Greek Theater and it was a performance. I was

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Speaker 1: just talking to someone about this this morning where they

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Speaker 1: had like this walkway and so as people were outside,

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Speaker 1: they were in there, you know, their garment like it

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Speaker 1: get on stage. Come on, now, she's in her eighties,

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Speaker 1: so let's just right. So she had strippers on stage

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Speaker 1: doing the show. While they were waiting on her. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm I'm sold, I'm so I was

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Speaker 1: like this is. This is on a whole different level.

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Speaker 1: But when she came to the Fox, she didn't have strippers,

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Speaker 1: and so it was a different kind of show, the

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Speaker 1: same music, different kind of shows. So so I've been

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Speaker 1: getting hooked up. I've been getting hooked up so much

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Speaker 1: for so many years. This this sweet human being bringing

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Speaker 1: me these awesome vibrators that really I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you all. I mean, I don't know if you're you're

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Speaker 1: new to this. I had a girlfriend. I have a girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: very wonderful friend of mine, who unfortunately just lost her

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Speaker 1: husband and they've been together for a long time. Um,

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Speaker 1: so she doesn't know, you know, she doesn't know. Um

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Speaker 1: she's only forty nine years old and she she doesn't

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Speaker 1: know about anybody but her husband. Right, So my aunts,

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Speaker 1: of course, I come for the what you call it,

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Speaker 1: uh the shiva? Is that? Is that? What that is? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know when you're around, um, you know when someone

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Speaker 1: has passed and you're just there. Yeah, she's not Jewish,

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Speaker 1: but I just called it that because that's where my

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Speaker 1: head went. And um, I brought her a vibrator umil though,

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Speaker 1: because I brought her, I brought her a fairly good

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Speaker 1: size I'll say you know about I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a vibrator. Um. It is the lacky licky kind with

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Speaker 1: that wonderful pretender. La is the joy, the joy on

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Speaker 1: LA's face for me, Yes, we're just curious though, like

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Speaker 1: even in being married for so long and not to

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Speaker 1: I think she what she said to me is that

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Speaker 1: she's had toys, but you know, there it wasn't something

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Speaker 1: that they necessarily needed. And also it wasn't um what

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Speaker 1: she has his old like antiquated things. She didn't know

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Speaker 1: they do licky licky now right, because that's fairly new.

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Speaker 1: That is, Yeah, she didn't know that. So it is

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Speaker 1: is um a real pleasure for me to have Nina

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Speaker 1: ill with us to talk to us about the use

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Speaker 1: of vibrators, um and even dildos because the evolution. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that, Like for all of

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Speaker 1: you that are like I'm tired of the bullshit. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this thing right here, this thing right here, it say

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Speaker 1: feel good right now and go to sleep, and that's

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Speaker 1: what it says, just says. It says, Hey, you're stressed out,

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Speaker 1: you're nervous about this business meeting, You're you're making a presentation.

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Speaker 1: Here you go and relax. Yeah, and we're just understanding

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Speaker 1: that they don't have to go inside of you because

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Speaker 1: some of us don't always want something from the inside.

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Speaker 1: Just like, you know, work those outsides, you know, she said,

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Speaker 1: the road, like we should ask Nina, like how does

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Speaker 1: she even get into this one? I was thinking the

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Speaker 1: same thing, like what is what is the God bless

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Speaker 1: you behind this word human? Good sister, God bless you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but how did this start? Oh? Man? Um?

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Speaker 1: It started a couple of ways. One, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes I'm I'm black because I heard the

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, you don't really know much about

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so tired of this, all of doings.

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Speaker 1: Wanting to create space for people, and there's a true

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Speaker 1: right like Sherminal Chatsworth and um, well now it's everywhere.

423
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: But that porn, those porn films actually got me all

424
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: over the country. Like this year, I just went to Berlin,

425
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: I went to London, I went to getting wars around

426
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: around the world for the work that I do, so

427
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So in teaching at the

428
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: university where Einstein taught during the war, right before the war,

429
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: and Angela Davis got her PhD, like come on, like,

430
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: look at I'm looking at with my my body, my

431
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: body positivity, my body rights has gotten me in my life,

432
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be here with y'all mouth it wasn't

433
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: for sex sex toys. So so here's the thing. So

434
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I was at dying in his house one night she

435
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: was shooting and the person was her partner who was

436
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: shooting with this other woman. So she's doing the content

437
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: and uh, all of a sudden, they're they're they're fucking

438
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: and they're doing what they're doing. And then uh, it's

439
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: like all right, cut, I need to rest. And then

440
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: there's somebody you know, somebody might need to give head

441
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: or somebody need to just take time. You know, you're

442
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: seeing edits, you're seeing things put together, so you're having

443
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: somebody say, oh, I need your legs this way, or

444
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: I need you this way, or even if in my

445
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: in my porn, I don't direct people that way. I

446
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: just make sure that I have the right people together

447
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: because see the kind of porn that I put together

448
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: as agency. So there's a difference with some of the

449
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: other porn houses where they say, well, I want you

450
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: to do this. I don't know if that. I might

451
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: invite another guy right now and you're gonna do DP.

452
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: The woman may or may not want to do that,

453
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: but the money on the table in the contract sets

454
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: that they have to do information they might have to

455
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: do this. But in my films, it's like, okay, I

456
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: just want to put the right people together and making

457
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: sure like hey, everybody's sober, no drugs, so you can

458
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: hear the other person consent. If they tell you to stop,

459
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: you gotta stop. All I'm doing is documenting there their sex.

460
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you guys. One time we

461
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: were we did I don't know what what episode we

462
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: did with somebody jumped in the comments and like, um,

463
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: then I tell you guys about how somebody suggested this

464
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: particular site that they called ethnically sourced and so like

465
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was such a thing. They

466
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: called it pro black Ethnically sourced porn is what it

467
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: was called, right, that's what it's called. So it's uh.

468
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: And so I went to the site and I was like,

469
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta check this out, like what's this that?

470
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: But but what's interesting is there's a lot of stuff

471
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: on the site. Like one of the things that they

472
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: have are things like they call pleasure portraits, where people

473
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: just have taken photos of themselves, like pleasuring themselves. The

474
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 1: porn that is current to me, it is just a

475
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of black print. But this isn't like that, Jill.

476
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, Like, that's what I That's

477
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: what I hate. I really hate mechanical um when it

478
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: looks like the person is under the rest or they're

479
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: they're stressed, or you know that I gotta get this money.

480
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: The mentality of I gotta get this money. When it

481
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: looks like the mentality like I'm here and I'm going, oh,

482
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: but really I'm counting, you know how much I need

483
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: in order to like, you know what I'm saying. And

484
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: when there's like a deadness in the eyes. That's the

485
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about with Vanessa del Real that

486
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: she was always present in every shot. Missy Stone is

487
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: like that Stone. Is that a good Yes, she's goods

488
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Missy Stone. She went whoever she went, she went them

489
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: like girl male male girl. Whatever you gotta until you

490
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: gotta come to porn convention with me this year? When

491
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: is it? Listen has a lot of actually performs each year.

492
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: I'll be like I heard a rumor said, and then

493
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Cardi B performed. I was in the front row. I

494
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: heard her and Cardi B perform at motherfucking show and

495
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: that was a show. I've never seen a sing like that.

496
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Is there a black porn Convention yet, y'all na Cuigeria, Yeah,

497
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: we have one, but it's not as well attended. It's more,

498
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: it's more you'll get you'll get awards out of it,

499
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: but you know, you just it's the backing Gia I forgot.

500
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I forgot her guy's name, you would know him, but

501
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: um DeVault his name is Alexander the Ball. He used

502
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: to be married to the Diana the bo So they

503
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: got together and created the Like this Black Award show

504
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: really good. You ever just really want to go get down?

505
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: It's it's like guilty. Uh. And I can't remember the

506
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: name right now because I haven't gone it years sometimes

507
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: they haven't. But um, those are really good because it's

508
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: also networking opportunities. I look at each person that goes

509
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: to a foreign award who's in the business and not

510
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: just for me. Um. I got into business because I

511
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: would go to the convention. Now I met Diana devote man.

512
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: She was the goddess and you know, I've watched her

513
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: films and everything, but just to see her would close on.

514
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: I was like more in love and uh, but just

515
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: to see her understand her business acumen was like even

516
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: even greater because it's not that you can do that

517
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: to your body all of those years and you know

518
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, like where do you see yourself? Do

519
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: you see yourself behind the camera? Do you see yourself

520
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: in another industry? Because you're gaining the same skill sets

521
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: that you can transfer to another industry, and that's what

522
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: she did. But just to see how each person, each

523
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: performer that I'm associated with, or I know even Mr

524
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Marcus out there, Um, you know a lot of the

525
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: black performers that they're basically businesses, each person, their body,

526
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: how they get access to create products with their names

527
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: on it. Everybody is a business in this industry, which

528
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: I really like. And I think, you know, to to

529
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: miss Jill's point of like somebody thinking about the money

530
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: because it is so critical to perform. It's like you know,

531
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: being out there with Lebron shooting forty for the night.

532
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: If you you're not Lebron, if you don't shoot forty

533
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: every night, and so you have to shoot forty so

534
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: you can get that to that next playoff if you will,

535
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: that next game, and so in that next game is

536
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: not just being here and and being you know, with

537
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: the porn and actually having intercourse, but it's also now

538
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: to to take that to camping sites like only Fans

539
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: or a Patreon, or creating your own sex product or

540
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: becoming this GFE where people just want to date you

541
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: for money, and finding other ways to monetize your whole,

542
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: uh sex industry experience. Like there's a whole so I

543
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, when people say sex workers, they're automatically gonna

544
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: think somebody is sucking and sucking, and that's not totally true.

545
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: A lot of them are creating experiences and also only

546
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: fans is given them the opportunity to stay behind the

547
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: camera and not do as much as they would have

548
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: to do if they were on poorn. You know, So

549
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: the whole spectrum of sex work has for me has

550
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: really changed. But it's also very hard to um narrate

551
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: that to other people who only think about sex work

552
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: as sex. We're gonna take a quick break and then

553
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. You know what I love about

554
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: your energy that I think um is like super important

555
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: across any industry is this kind of respect for people

556
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: who paved the way for you, Like your excitement about

557
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: working with people who understand the industry and who are

558
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: willing to teach you. So you have like a twofold

559
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: relationship here that I see that's really just been important

560
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: in your story where it's like you have this passion

561
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: for this work, you found people who have history in

562
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: this work and skinning the game no pun intended, that

563
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: are not only have that, but they're willing to reach

564
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: back and teach you and give you their hands on feedback,

565
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: because I mean, how many filmmakers or how many filmmakers

566
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: can say, oh, I met someone who I deeply admire

567
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: who literally looked at my work, critiqued it, and gave

568
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: me some encouragement as to how to move forward in

569
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: the industry. I just think that that's a really beautiful

570
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: thing that has happened specifically with you. But I'm sure

571
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: it's not a standalone experience. So I just really want

572
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: to point that out because in a lot of industries,

573
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: and even the industry that you know, the music industry

574
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: where we are, there's a lot of the disconnected with that,

575
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: whereas like there's no reach back. Yeah, I think you know,

576
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I can't. I appreciate you acknowledging that because I think

577
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the adult is um people more serious that inside, and

578
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: people think of us on the outside, right, they think

579
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to a foreign convention and they're thinking, like

580
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: we're having sex everywhere. Not to say that that doesn't happen,

581
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: not to say I'm not excited about seeing that, but um,

582
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you can get a

583
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: line of credit thirty dollars from a company to get

584
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: products in and they're just gonna send it to you.

585
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: You know. Now that that makes me come on day long,

586
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: you know. And so it's not about just the put

587
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: out that people see what. It's also about the potential

588
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: in the industry. And I think because when people use

589
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: their body, the detriment of like AIDS, hiv, uh STD

590
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: simplest those things like each day can be your day

591
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: to be done, you know, And so each day I

592
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: think people are like, let me do my best to

593
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: get more people involved in this. And then one thing

594
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: is I'm on the I'm on the retail side. Most people,

595
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, most blacks that I know that aren't competitive

596
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: with me when I was in the film side, we're there.

597
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: On the other side, there's very few African Americans owning

598
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: brick and mortar stores or operating at the level that

599
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I operate. And I'm not saying that others don't operate

600
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: at that level, but they're not reaching out to say, hey,

601
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: like I've been um nominated for a couple of marketing awards,

602
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: national marketing awards. So it's not just in community awards.

603
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: It's not just best retail store in the country several

604
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: times through a d n N xviis. But it's about

605
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: my management skills as well in the industry. And even

606
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: before I had the store, when I was selling out

607
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: the trunk of my car, I was going to these

608
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: events and saying, can I get on the panel because

609
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: I was doing so much studying. And I was watching

610
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: this guy who owns some stores here, and before he

611
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: bought these stores, he owned this other warehouse in South

612
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's one funcle will roll up in Rose

613
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Royce and I was next door next to him my Honda,

614
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: and he would never say anything to me, But it

615
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: was the black people in his business that was sit

616
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: me down at his table and you know what I'm saying,

617
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: And it's just like now we compete. So never never,

618
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: never does somebody that you you know, you never know

619
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: when they'll come back to you. Always show that kindness

620
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: because you never know how that impression impacts the relationship

621
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: going forward, you know, And have you had that experience

622
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: yet where somebody's now walked up to you and said,

623
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: because of you, I see that I can now do this,

624
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Like how is that going within the generation under you? Yeah?

625
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's an important question. A lot of people

626
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: will ask me, like on on Instagram, and people will

627
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: send them my way and say, well, you know, how

628
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: do I get going? And I say, I'm sorry to

629
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: tell you. All you gotta do is start. Some people

630
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: don't want to take the money it takes to invest

631
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: in failure, you know what I mean, Like you have

632
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: to be willing to really invest in failure because you

633
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it's success yet. M and a lot

634
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of people are just not willing to do that, and

635
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: so they'll go back and tell a few people like man,

636
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: she she didn't talk to me, She didn't tell me.

637
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm putting it out there on YouTube

638
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: for you to watch it. I'm telling you where to go.

639
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: I wrote the book about it, you know what I mean.

640
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: It's just like, don't take just because someone is telling

641
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: you know that, it's stopping you. It's telling you to

642
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: keep going, it's telling you know right now, but I

643
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: don't have that time. But you can start. And so

644
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: sometimes people want you to guide them and put their

645
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: hand on it, and it's like you you really, you

646
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: really have to take your hand and put it in

647
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: your pocket, come out with your money and investing yourself first,

648
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just hard, Like I'm running for office.

649
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was all hard because I had I

650
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: had that, But over here they need money. They running

651
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: for city council in California right now, that's a that's

652
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: a real hot seats, first seat in any seas. I

653
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: think they don't understand city council run that run. You

654
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: feel the city council runs the ones the show baby.

655
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: So so let me let me finish answer that question.

656
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: So you're talking about what people are saying about how

657
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm supporting them, but the people who see it the

658
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: encouragement that I give their coming back and saying, you know,

659
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: because of you, I did this. And it's not just

660
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: in the adult business, it's in life that African Americans,

661
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: black people rebirth yourself with the audacity that you can

662
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: do any damn thing. Say one more time. Rebirth yourself

663
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: with the audacity that you can do anything. You do

664
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: not need permission. We have to stop looking for permission.

665
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: I give people coming in the stores and say, you know,

666
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: asking to buy a certain type of sex toys, and

667
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: what do you think, I'm like, you got it. That's

668
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: all they're looking for permission and being seen and we

669
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: have to stop looking for that and see ourselves. So,

670
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, like the woman who has never had a

671
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: sex tour turned on her sex toy. It's not just

672
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: about the sex toy. It's like you have permission already.

673
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: You don't even need to go out and buy anything.

674
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: You have you you know, when are we going to

675
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: be comfortable with us being enough to ballot? Was actually

676
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna ask you that. I was like, I mean, you know,

677
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: listen for the business, for all of all of the success.

678
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, what about us. Girls are

679
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: just just climbing and bed with with good old and

680
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: so listen and don't forget about the girls that just

681
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: go hands free because you didn't wait, am I about

682
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: to put you on? And the just an't gonna tell

683
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: you come? Oh okay, I thought you were talking about

684
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: like humping your pillow or something. I don't know. I mean,

685
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: you could, you could do that, but the humping the

686
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: pillow is basically with me, kind of like the same

687
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: thing as keeping until you come without the pillow. Hands free,

688
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: baby hands ability. Since we started this damn pack, I

689
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: wasn't bragging, I just was. And she's and she's also

690
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: thrown me under the bus as well. Because I have

691
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of children. You think that my key wi

692
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: don't work. But I wasn't doing that that sub I

693
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that because you're still like, you're still enjoying sex.

694
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: I know that thing tight. But you know, some people

695
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: will come in and say, well, they'll come in with

696
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: a group of friends and like, I don't know, I

697
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: don't need anything. I'm like, you're right, you don't need anything.

698
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when we start to just normalize

699
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: what we're working with what we got, but also informing

700
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: people about what else is out there, because it's like

701
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: talking to a man about anal anal play, I won't

702
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: say a sex anal play or anal stimulation before prostate cancer.

703
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: Is a different conversation after prostate cancer because they under

704
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: stand the impact of not checking on themselves. They understand

705
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: the impact of not milking themselves, and so it's a

706
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: whole different conversation now because now they just don't they

707
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: can't ejaculate, or they lost their erections, so the conversation

708
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: is different. I think if you start to just talk

709
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: about sex. One Jewish lady, I know, Miss Jill, says

710
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: something about Shiba earlier, one Jewish lady told me, she says,

711
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: you know, if you people, and I know she was

712
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: talking about African Americans, said, if you talk about money

713
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: the way you do with sex, you'll have more of it.

714
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: So I started talking about money the way I was

715
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: talking about sets just at the sex people. Yeah, the

716
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: mentality shift, the mentality ship. I don't talk about it enough.

717
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: We talk about it in secret, just like we talk

718
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: about Doney in secret. You know, I really believe in

719
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: divine intervention. I know that that kind of sounds like, oh,

720
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: you just have your hands off the wheel. Not necessarily

721
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: because once, once you get directed in the area, it's

722
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: up to you to to fulfill that the desire. Once

723
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: you get there, once you you know, you see it. Oh,

724
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: don't drop the thing. I love that your aunt introduced

725
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: you to your body. I love that, and I love

726
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: that you took that and created an entire existence for

727
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: yourself and your blessing people. You're you're you're informing people,

728
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: educating people, and exciting people. You know, in sexuality. I

729
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: just I think that's phenomenal. And it's all areas of it.

730
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: It's all areas, even even the financial aspect of it.

731
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: I think that is brilliant. I'm gonna give you one. Okay,

732
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: this is a gift. Now. I'm sure somebody else in

733
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: the world has thought of this, but I believe that

734
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: there should be um a thousand dollar and up dildo

735
00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: that is designed specifically for your vagina. Oh that's like

736
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: the Nipsey Hucks so mix tape. So what do you

737
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Like, what will this do? I'm

738
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: saying that it will specifically, it's tailor kiss like like

739
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: an ear, like when you do the in your monitors

740
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: and they pour the wax in your ear and yes,

741
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: oh well wait a minute, now, how are we gonna

742
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: through that? I don't know if are we gonna do that?

743
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: Jill that you put the mold in your ear? You know?

744
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: So you you you pull it out, it hardens and

745
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: you pull it about my COUCHI make it make it

746
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: work the same idea inside of the vagina. You put it.

747
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: You put the phone inside of the vagina and hardened,

748
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: and then you pull it out and we have this

749
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: the shape of little vagina? Can it be a soft

750
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: hard If you guys can see our facial expressions on

751
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: this podcast, we scratched our head I just if my

752
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: grandchild is listening, I just I just want to say

753
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: my grand babies to listen to how sexually healthy your

754
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: grandma is? Yeah, yay, is so sexually healthy. Little But see,

755
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, when we start to talk about it from

756
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: that perspective, I think, you know, it's simple, you know,

757
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: when you know, we can shock your kids when you

758
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: express to them what it's like what their body should

759
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: be doing. You can't show everybody in Oakland young girls

760
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: can't really walk outside by themselves, you know what I mean,

761
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: Like that's that's hard. That's hard to stomach to see,

762
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Like you're looking around like who we are or who

763
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: who trying to get her? Like you know, they're really

764
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: taking young girls and putting them in a prostitution around here.

765
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: But we we also have to equip your girls were

766
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: talking about those experiences, young boys to talking about those experiences,

767
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: because I think that equips in with protecting themselves when

768
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: they're in those situations. Right. And and also too, it's

769
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: it's important to talk to people in general, right because

770
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: we we make Okay, you're about to get into like

771
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: public policy, so you know, we go into making policy

772
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: to quote unquote address things that are happening in our community,

773
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: but we don't talk to anybody or really do any

774
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: research around these people's people's experiences or talk to them.

775
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: And our young people are having conversations with their peers,

776
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: and their peers have all kinds of experiences, and yet

777
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: when they come to us as the elders of the community,

778
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like they're lost. They feel like, oh, well, this

779
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: isn't matching up. I can't talk to you about what

780
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: I've experienced. I can't talk to you about what my

781
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: peers are experiencing. We don't have a place to actually

782
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: really talk about this thing in a way that we

783
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: walk away feeling empowered. It's just like, Okay, keep it

784
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: to myself, don't tell it's a shame, their shame around it.

785
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: There's blame around it. There's you know, all kinds of

786
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: like negativity that goes into it. Instead of just having

787
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity to just listen. I feel like stories are

788
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: just not told. People just don't talk about They listen

789
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: to the music I'm talking. I'm listening to much. I

790
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: love a song, but I know that I thought you

791
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: was feeling me. Yeah, but but yeah, that dude so much. Yeah,

792
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: but listening to that music is also about sexuality and

793
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: the expression of things. And if we're not talking about children,

794
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: the music is talking to your children. Doesn't mean that

795
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: you all arrive with the music is talking about you.

796
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Just see how the child is feeling about responding to

797
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: the content. What does that make you do? How does

798
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: it make you feel? You know, I just want you

799
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: to know about You can listen to that, but what

800
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: is the implications of the actions in the music? If

801
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: you're acting outside of the music? You know, I like that,

802
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: what are the implications? Yeah? How does that make you feel? Like?

803
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: You can tell? You ye that? Yeah, it's just like

804
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: the drill music. It's great. I listened to I listened

805
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: to all everything. If you're on Instagram, I'm on sound

806
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: listen to everything. I'm like, these cats are so damned created.

807
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: But there's implications to the music if you acted out.

808
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: I also, I also want to throw this in there,

809
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: that that everything that you do, the sexual stuff that

810
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: you do, it's just it's not for everybody. Everybody can't

811
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: get your A game, thabe. Yeah, you can't give everybody

812
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: your A game. So how do you put out a beat?

813
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: How do you put out b and c oh, I

814
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: just don't give all the you don't give it all

815
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: the cherries, and so it's like like you don't, you don't,

816
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: you don't, I don't. Just kind of what I'm seeing

817
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: head and no boo swallowing, swallowing that a game. No,

818
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: everybody can't get that. That ship is thick. Have you ever?

819
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Everybody can't get that. I can't swallow everybody's DNA. So

820
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: you so you you vibe on it, but you don't swallow.

821
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I um, I would think you want y'all see me

822
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: in the corner. I'm just the corner. How do you?

823
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: How do you? How do you? What's the what's the

824
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: logic behind not giving your a game? Well, fish your

825
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: body for some you get what you need. You know

826
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: what you came to get and you know how to

827
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: maneuver to get it. Yeah, ma'am, there are others where

828
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: you know each other and you can go all the

829
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: way in every possible fan to see that you want.

830
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: You can live that right now. But not everybody can

831
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: get that. Some people will will just get the the

832
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: squeaky whip dick got kick up, you know what I'm saying,

833
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: and then somebody else will get that cash shot up.

834
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: Do don't y'all think that's okay? As long as you

835
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: want like like address, I mean attached some sort of

836
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: kind of moral hierarchy to that. It's a b C.

837
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: It's more, it's higher, you know, it's it's hierarchy for

838
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: me just too, as a woman who've been dating all

839
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: her life. I got to say something for the nigga

840
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: that decide or we decide that this is like, so, yeah, someone,

841
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: is that more about you? It's me? Okay, So what's

842
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: that one thing that you're saving for that person? Swallowing

843
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: he said, swallowing he said, spit it out of swallowing

844
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: it again? But is that because you think that secretly

845
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: he believes that that makes him more special? Like? What

846
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: is it? Is it really? I mean, like I'm saying,

847
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: is there no part of this as teenage rule that

848
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: I may come on ya all of me? The first trust,

849
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: the all of me has to have trust. I need

850
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: to trust this person. Now. I might be attracted to

851
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: someone and want to, you know, spend since spend some

852
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: good old loving time or not fucking time, I'll say,

853
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: And but why is your mouth more special than your vagina?

854
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: My mouth is as a special, stop making sense money maker.

855
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time for your sense making? Man, It's set.

856
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. This is what it is. I'm still

857
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: a black girl of the nineties. This is true. I mean,

858
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: I just want to pretend like I didn't get caught

859
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: up in a lot of respectability. I mean, this is me.

860
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm just just trying to free I just want to

861
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: liberate my mind. I'm trying to decolonize mine. Right and also, Asian,

862
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: I already gave up my booty hole. Asian, I already

863
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: gave up my booty hole. It's all I got left.

864
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: More real talk after the break. Can get this top

865
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: top five list? Please? Please? Top five vibrators and still

866
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: those if you will? All right notes, are you really

867
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: got no? I'm excited. Oh I'm associated if the roses

868
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: not weren't here because I just bought the three of

869
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: those bitches and we can get them directly from Nina. Okay,

870
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: feel more adult? Please? So we got the g motion.

871
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: What I love about that is I was in Denver

872
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: check it out a shop up there, and it was

873
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: a it was a three and one product. It has

874
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: a wand on the end, it has and it operates

875
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: as a rabbit. And it also has this little ball

876
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: that goes back and forth at the tip. That's that's

877
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: a top product. So and it's a slim shaft too,

878
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: so if you don't want to put all that in

879
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: you you don't have to. And all the controls are separate,

880
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: so nothing just turns on everything. It's a control for

881
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: each thing. I say the rose because the roses the rose, okay,

882
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: and it's but which so which one this is one?

883
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to say. It's like when I started.

884
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: When we started, there was one section, then it became ten.

885
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: There is twenty. I will actually tell you it's called

886
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the Dane Air. What I like about the day Air

887
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: is um it is silicone body throughout. If you know

888
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: the rose, people you know see the rose and I

889
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: want ross. The rose has a small opening. I know.

890
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: There's some big clips out there, and so with the

891
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: Dane Air it allows flexibility around to somebody getting the

892
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: right and we'll see over there right, you know. Sorry, y'all,

893
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: y'all know y'all got every clip. Ain't to say every

894
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: clip ain't small. You've got some big clips out there

895
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: that you know. Again, it allows you to u envelope yourself,

896
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: and it's really good for trans men who have huge

897
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: clips because of testosterone taking. Wow, I never even thought

898
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: the result of that. So that makes sense because intomically

899
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: it's all the same. Actually, when you before you before

900
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: you form in the womb, the whole thing is the

901
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: same thing. Your cletterus and the penis are all the same.

902
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: It's actually the same. One just stopped growing another one,

903
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: so it's the same. How big your clint is atrophies

904
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: over time, so keep it going, keep stimulating it, keep

905
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: so it's like it's like any other muscle exercise. So

906
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: he said, you still need to have orgasms. It doesn't

907
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: matter if you have a partner, have an orgasm at

908
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: least every other day. It's about sexual health because your

909
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: blood vessels keep opening up down there, and as you

910
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: get older and less lubrication, those are the things that

911
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: come about sometimes you like my my vajorita ain't operate

912
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: the same. It ain't like something's wrong, it's just time

913
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: and your attention to it. So your sexual health needs

914
00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: attention to detail, not just another person to help you out. Trophy. Yeah,

915
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: I gotta do like I did and buy y'all Mama's

916
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: a rose like I did, like listen the Dame Air,

917
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: but there's from film or Dame Air, and uh there's

918
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: another one called the Satisfied pro Plus. Uh, there are

919
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: a lot of suctions out there. I like this particular section.

920
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: I know I said the Rose, but not really the Rose,

921
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: but it's g motion Dame Air, the Satisfied pro Plus

922
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: and it's pro plus because uh, this suction. Its suction

923
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: is suction, you know, depending on what the opening looks

924
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: like for me. But this one actually has a vibrator

925
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: built in too, so you know you want a little extra.

926
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: It's like, don't shoot it, don't shoot out tunina, and

927
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: they want, like we need it's shooting out the air,

928
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: right like yeah, people think it's sucking, but it's like fluttering.

929
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: It's like somebody, it's like a butterfly kiss on your

930
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: on your pros on your clip. I don't know what

931
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: that is, but if it sounds like this is great. Yeah, Okay,

932
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: so we we've got it. We've got a black business

933
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: started from literally the wheels, okay, you know, in the

934
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: back of the car pulling out buildos and videos. Now

935
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: she's two businesses. Um, she's she's been nominated for for

936
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: all kinds of awards at this point, for direction and

937
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: for business and one and then then then um and

938
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: she's she's running for city council. Um. Look, this is

939
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: that intervention moving gag. So proud of you. You are

940
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: a crtually taking care of your community. Yeah, I am too.

941
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't even at the end of the day, what

942
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: we at the end of the day, what we need

943
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: is people representing from a place that's liberating and this

944
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: is this is a person who has a liberation mentality. Okay,

945
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: so you're gonna take that mentality in all the work

946
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: that you do. It's like it's it's it's cross disciplined.

947
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: So I kind of just love that you're taking your

948
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: work and your mentality and your philosophy into public policy.

949
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: This is wonderful news for Oakland. I love Oakland, actually Oakland,

950
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I deeply love and the history in Oakland around black

951
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: liberation and the fact that this is the work that

952
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: you're doing and you're writing downtown Oakland and you're pulling

953
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: that that energy and synergy into the you know, or

954
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: adding to the history of the city in that way.

955
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: I just super impressed. Proud, you know, all of the

956
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: proud everything she said, thanks lady standing by the gate beautiful.

957
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, sometimes sometimes take naps and stuff.

958
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes I gotta get real quiet after the show. Stuff

959
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: happens to me. And then you know, it could be

960
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: like an hour or so later, and you know, I'm

961
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: not thinking. I'm just trying to decompress and get right

962
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, playing for the next move. And I come

963
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: outside and there's Nina with this gift of life, a

964
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: gift on the bus like a tour bus. That's a

965
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: got got, got, got got guy. You know what I'm saying.

966
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: That's a long ride. Do you normally drive from place

967
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: to place? Yes? And then typically my my toys are

968
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: in my luggage, not necessarily on the bus with me.

969
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: I've learned now, you know, you take the yeah to

970
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: take them with you on the bus. Crazy that she

971
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: would have brought the basket, just the whole Nina basket.

972
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: That you have a mask throughout the years some of

973
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: them experience, they traveled, and you know, I can't say

974
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I took the best care of him. I kind of

975
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: threw them in the bag and was trying to get

976
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: to the next stage. But you know, you or the

977
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: special treatment she could always write an email tell us

978
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: what she needs and she got it too, so you know,

979
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: so that's that's real talk. So I don't know sex.

980
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: Sex is fun, it's it's great to talk about. And

981
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy that I'm here today to be

982
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: able to share with people that you know, you can

983
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: think about sex in different ways. Thank you for too much.

984
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: I guess I feel like we're remissed without asking this

985
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: last question, which is what's on your heart? It's on

986
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: my heart. That's a good one to know. I need.

987
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: I need a woman right now to be in some

988
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: lager right besige of my feet and actually cook me

989
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: some hot water, corn bread is some grains and some

990
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: chilling asking a lot as I ain't seen, ain't. I

991
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: gotta called my grandmamaa call, got the moment, she got

992
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: the boo, she ain't gonna grab my feet. I'm just

993
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy by all my health. That's my heart.

994
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: My heart is all my health, you know, just to

995
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: just to make sure that can fulfill these last couple

996
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: of weeks and get to November eight, because yes, yes,

997
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: November eight, and um because November nine already booked my

998
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: ticket to an international country. So I'm out of here.

999
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: Win or win. You know good, you did the work

1000
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: to relax, win or win. We hope, we hope you

1001
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: find your foot rubber boat. Yeah, make the right. She's lazy,

1002
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: she's working. Thank you so much. Friends. It's evident that

1003
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: it is about our mental health, and it's about our

1004
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: spiritual health that matters, about our physical health, and it's

1005
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: also about our sexual health. And the line of the

1006
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: day is for sure the thing scared the hell out

1007
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: of me. Your clip can after fee Oh fuck that.

1008
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to Jay dot Ilga podcasts.

1009
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Always it's a pleasure. How do you eat an elephant?

1010
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: One by it? Kind? Hey, listeners, it's Amber, the producer

1011
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: of Jada il Here. That was such a spicy episode.

1012
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: I am so inspired and excited about the work Nina

1013
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: is doing in her community while advocating for pleasure. Nina

1014
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: shared several toys in this episode, all of which you

1015
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: can find in her shop Feel More Adult. I'll drop

1016
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: a link in the show notes. If you want to

1017
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: get a deeper understanding of how you relate to pleasure,

1018
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: I highly recommend a series on Netflix called The Principles

1019
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: of Pleasure. It's truly a deep dive into finding deeper

1020
01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: intimacy with ourselves and others. Hi, if you have comments

1021
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: on something he said in this episode called eight six six,

1022
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: Hey Jill, if you want to add to this conversation,

1023
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: that's eight six six nine five four five five. Don't

1024
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: forget to tell us your name and the episode you're

1025
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: referring to. You might just hear your message on a

1026
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents

1027
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: Jay dot l the podcast I Love Your nut As.

1028
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: I have a question, though, are you all really trying

1029
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: to tell me? Because because you know, every time we

1030
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: have a conversation, I feel like somebody pulls my eyes

1031
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: apart every time. So are you trying to tell me

1032
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: that you you give everybody your A game? Everybody gets

1033
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: the A game everybody. J dot Ill is a production

1034
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever

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