WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, July 16 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:12.000 It is Thursday, July. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.920 now a guy who's really getting tired of hearing Oh, 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:21.480 I thought that was your mask j Peace. I'm used 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.520 to it. People have been asking me to mask up 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:29.160 for years. Jaguars Happy Hour back from a Midsummer break. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.360 J P. Shadrick from the home studio. Still who knows 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.479 when that will change either, By the way, one of 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.840 the things we don't know right now in mid July, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.040 with training camp schedule to begin right around the corner 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.879 of a couple of weeks away from when veterans would report, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.400 but will they still at that point as a big question? 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.040 Lots to get to. Today, we'll hear from all of 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:00.320 our big three Ton't selling Jaguars analysts, joins us John 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.720 Oh's your senior writer Jaguars dot Com, and then Jack's 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.760 analyst Jeff Loghuman will go around the National Football League 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.440 as well, catch you up on some of the bigger 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.119 news from around the league, including what's happening in Washington, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.400 d C. We'll get to that. Well, we don't know 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.680 much yet, but there are rumors of a story coming 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.759 out of the Word Post at some point, maybe as 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.320 early as tomorrow. Let's go to the phone lines now 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.640 and welcome in. Prior to the Jaguars Left tackle and 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:33.479 Jaguars analysts, Tony was Selly, Tony, good afternoon, and how 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.000 are you so? What's up? JP? I didn't appreciate the 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.640 start of the show. I thought it was very mean 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.479 spirited about saying, uh, you wearing a mask? I mean 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.200 that was I thought that was uncalled for. But it's 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:51.800 it's par for the course, you know. I well, thanks, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.360 I appreciate that. That's nice of you. But I'm gonna 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.360 do my part. I'm gonna wear my mask like you 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.240 asked everybody to do early in this thing. Maybe quit 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:06.360 you should wear your mask in respect to others, especially indoors. Um, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.440 but I'm saying you don't need a mask because your 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.480 look like Wow, that's like the nicest thing you ever 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.760 said to me, Tony. The things have turned, you know. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.600 I mean it's cod cod cod. You've you've you've changed 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.440 your tone over the time. Here. Um, we got planning 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.919 to talk about here, Tony. Let's start with the Let's 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.959 start with the quay stuff, all right. I mean that 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.440 we the deadline came and went where they had to 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.520 agree to a long term deal. Obviously no deal, there's 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.360 been no trade. Um, you know, he's still said that 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.600 he doesn't want to play here. So what now? What 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.160 is next? Is he gonna be dealt at some point? 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.200 Is he gonna have to sit it out? Or is 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.679 he going to sign it and play? What do you think? Yeah? Well, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.440 first of all, didn't it feel like, you know, Wednesday 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.280 or you know, actually the Tuesday going into yeah, should 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.200 they kind a deadline? That this was almost like treated 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.200 by his agent to get some conversation going. That's what 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.120 it felt like. I don't know that because it's not 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:16.200 like anything like all of a sudden like okay, like 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.600 now we're gonna dial up the conversation because it was 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:24.359 the last time for this year, this football year, that 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.200 and go Colin could be traded and find a long 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.799 term deal. So it felt like and again I am 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.240 just making this up as a feeling. I mean, this 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.720 is just me thinking out loud that it felt like 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.520 it was like something of good agent would do going 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.400 here right now. Um, I just have a hard time believing, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.480 um that the Jacks are going to get at this point, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:52.240 especially in this with all the unknowns around COVID and 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.360 what's gonna happen and when the season started, how many 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:55.960 games are you gonna get in and start or even 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.840 able to finish when these are all unknowns, Like I 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.280 think it's all gonna like they're gonna figure out and 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.920 I think they play this year. But if you're a team, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.480 are you gonna trade a first or second rounder to 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.040 the Jaguars for a guy that you can't lock up 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.880 and there's no guarantee is gonna be on your team 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.080 beyond next year? And by the way, you're to pay 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.440 him to take up you know, almost eighteen million dollars 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.640 your cat. So if you're the Jags, why would you 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.480 trade him for anything less than a first or second 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.880 because you're gonna get a third and a uh compensatory 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.240 pick if he leaves in free agency, you know, in 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.360 the following year. So I don't reason if you're the 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.960 Jags you trade them for a third rounder? Is you're 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.440 just like, you know what, I just want them out 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:38.960 of here. I want loft the books. I don't want 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:44.200 to pay uh. And so that's all to day like 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.240 cause I say all that kind of think out loud. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.880 I just think he's here, Now what he does he play? 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.680 Or not. That's the that's I think he does. I 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.279 I don't think he walks away from almost eighteen million 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.480 dollars this year if they end up playing, um the 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.560 whole see and so. But that's what I see it 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.440 as we stick today. Tony was selly with us, proud 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.000 of the Jaguars left tackle, and yeah, it was it 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.440 was interesting seeing all these news stories pop up about 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.760 it because it's like we're sitting right here. Nothing is 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.599 different than it was two weeks ago. You know, nothing 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.520 has changed. Yeah, it would be great to really understand 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.640 what was real, what was And I'm really curious Tony too, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.560 to see there was those reports about other teams had 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:36.320 offered the Jaguars whatever, including a former Pro Bowl defensive lineman. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:41.000 That was kind of vague, but I'd be curiously curious. Yeah, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.159 former Pro Bowl offensive I mean defensive lineman. Okay, what 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.200 does that mean? Is that? Like he was the fifth 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.000 alternated it one year, Um, he was the best defensive 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.680 lineman in the league. You know, there's like a big 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.080 range when you say former Pro Bowl player. I'm not 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.240 taking anything away from those guys. But then and what's 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.359 his age, which is injury history? I mean so you 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.200 start hearing these dag reports and I'm not saying that 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.200 you know that they're not the jag should or should 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.359 not have done it. We just don't know enough. But 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.880 it's obvious because the Jaguars, I mean, the one thing 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.320 that is clear that Dave cart Well you know, and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.640 Doug Browne under Sean kom will train players if you 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.320 give them the right value. It's not like they're like, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.960 don't trade them with the right values there, So what 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.360 what what you know? The story here to me is 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.680 that they were never given the right value. Uh, in 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.640 combination with a team be on the lock up for 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.640 the long, long term deal Tony Boselli with us. Obviously, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:42.080 the big story now is what's going to happen with 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.120 training camp, preseason games, if there are any, and then 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.800 the protocol at getting players back in the building. I mean, 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.080 there are some teams Tony that rookies report I believe 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:58.320 in like two days from now, allegedly that's on the schedule. Um, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.720 but there are no official show protocols that have been 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.600 announced in place. The players association in the league are 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.479 still negotiating some of these and uh, you know, we're 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.920 two weeks out from veterans reporting for the Jags. So yeah, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.480 I mean yeah, I mean you go through the issues. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.960 I mean some are pretty easy. I don't I don't 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.000 think a big deals that didn't to get over. You know, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.320 test every day and the other day. Okay, you can 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.360 come to that. I mean, that's something you can figure out. Um, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.239 you know, the preseason is is a sticking point. Owners 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:29.360 want to players want none. I would go towards zero 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.600 two because if you're not gonna have fans, what's the 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.760 point it's it's at that point just about I guess 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.680 you get some TV local TV money, you know, in advertising, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.440 that could help out. But you have the cost of 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.640 traveling as well. So I mean, uh, I mean I 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.400 think you can figure that one out. But I get 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.600 you know, you know, that's a that's a bargaining ship. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.480 But the big one is this is the owners want 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.920 to say, hey, wait at second. There's two big ones. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.000 One is owners want to say, you know, uh are 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.800 saying that if you at coronavirus or COVID nineteen, it's 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.920 the non football injury. And the players are saying, wait 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.760 it secon nice to be a football injury. That's a 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.240 big deal because that determines whether the club I pay 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:13.600 you or not. Um, we're missing games, um. And I 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.160 would say in the in these times that if you're 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.120 doing what you're supposed to do in your quarantine and 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.080 you're just you know, playing football and you're trying to 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.920 be a pro, and you get COVID nineteen, that should 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.680 be a football injury. The second one, that's the biggest one. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.640 I think there's this whole idea of s growing you 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.480 know what I've heard of the player's salaries, saying not 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.720 saying that they won't get it, but scrowing it and saying, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.360 if you know, we can't finish the season or at 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.520 some point you know, we're not gonna pay it. And 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.079 the reason that's important because for all the invested veterans, 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.760 if you play one game, one play really then your 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.680 contract becomes guaranteed for the rest of the year. And 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.280 so if you're if you're the owners, you're concerns like, okay, great, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.720 we play week while we play week two. Oh my gosh, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.760 all hell breaks boosts and this gets worse and we 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.800 can't play football anylonger. They don't want to be on 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.960 the hook for the rest of the year for the 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.280 players salaries, but by the letter of the c b A, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.280 they would be because they're guaranteed after game one, and 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.040 so I think they're saying, like, listen, we'll pay our 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.640 guaranteed money, but the rest we're gonna put like in 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:23.840 some scrow and uh and if we can't finish, you know, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.199 we get that money back. And the players are like no. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.080 And so that's the big one. I think you have 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.560 to figure out, which, by the way, makes sense to 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.920 me if I'm an owner. That seems fair. I don't 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.920 think the owners are trying to get over in players 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.080 or anything the sending to pay their guaranteed money. It's 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.920 about the money as far as salary. And if you 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.920 can't move forward because of UH, because of whatever reason 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.760 you know around COVID, I think that's fair because also 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.560 in that kind of negotiation, you're also talking about what 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.320 do you do with the salary captain next year because 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.679 local revenue is gonna be way down um, Advertising and 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.199 marketing dollars gonna be way down UM, and so the 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.800 shared revenue that goes to set the cap outside of TV. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.440 And by the way, if TV is affected, it could 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.520 be down as well. And all of a sudden now 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.240 you have a cap that goes down next year, Well 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:18.679 guess what happens. You have to cut a bunch of 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.400 players because you can't afford them. And so I think 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.800 they're trying to figure out, like, those are the kinds 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.480 of conversations that's gonna get kind of sticky that you 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.040 got to figure out, like how do you handle that? Um? 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.880 And hopefully both sides can be reasonable both sides and 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.640 come to an agreement looking at the big picture, I 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.040 mean equitable understanding that you know what you like each side. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.360 You have to give a little bit. This is these 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.760 are unprecedented times and because of where we sit, you know, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.000 I think there's gonna be a little bit of sacrifice. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.280 But everybody, Tony, we saw how how ugly the baseball 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.480 negotiation got. I don't know how much you followed that before. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.640 They finally agreed to play the sixty games schedule, but 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.120 it took them an extra month to get to that, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.200 and it wasn't pretty between the Players Association, but the 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.560 Major League Baseball Players Association and Major League Baseball. But 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.680 they finally got to it. I mean, but it was 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.400 do you fore I couldn't foresee this one getting that 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.760 UM ugly. I guess right. I mean they're pretty close. Yeah, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.680 I think they're pretty close. I think both sides understand 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.880 that that's not good for anybody. That's a bad look, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.760 that turns fans off. I think that hurts the brand. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.960 I think both sides will figure this out. Um, it's hard, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.960 it's not easy. You're asking. You know, these are big 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.560 dollars and a lot of these are people's livelihoods, these 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.199 are their investments. I mean, this is important stuff. So 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.320 I think, but I think they'll get get through it, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.079 um in a much you know, smoother, you know, less 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.840 you know, abrasive and public, in a public manner like 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.000 the baseball to let's hope. So at least, I don't 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.120 think you know, they got some I mean everyone's pushing 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.240 for these dates, like, hey, you know, football a supposed 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.000 to start in two days and three days or whatever. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.360 Erkan's aroundy is you start cutting preseason games, you know, 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.960 at two even, let's say you go to zero. I mean, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.400 I don't think you need to start next week and 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.040 have you know, seven weeks of camp with no preseason 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.000 I know one person who would love that, but he's 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.880 no longer around here. So yeah, So I mean, I 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.400 think there's some like there's something that we have a 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.400 little bit of time. I think they're talking, and I 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.920 do think they figured it out. Tony was elly with 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.880 us on Jaguars Happy Hour. Another announcement fairly recently by 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.720 the organization the Jaguars reducing capacity this year at the 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:39.840 stadium to cent just under seventeen thousand all season tickets. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.680 Returned payments can be refunded or credited to the season 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.800 ticket holder accounts for tickets this season or next. The question, though, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:53.000 Tony is um access Who gets those seventeen thousand seats 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.360 is it's a probably a match of tenure. Uh, the 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.080 amount spent, the types of tickets, sponsorship all has a 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.960 hand in this thing. And I think that's the challenge 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.120 not only for the Jaguars, but for every organization in 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.720 football right now, is to figure out, if it's reduced, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.600 if it's allowed to be open, first of all, who 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:15.080 gets those of tickets. That's that's a tough challenge. Yeah, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.000 it's tough, And like listen, I mean, you're gonna have 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.840 some people are just gonna opt out because they're afraid 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.080 and they don't want to risk getting exposed, which is 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.120 you know, so I'll take a you know, a good 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.000 portion of the people out off the table as far 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.120 as wanting tickets, but you're still not gonna have enough 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.160 tickets for the demand, especially if you end up being good. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.360 You know early will be demand and you're not gonna 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.240 have enough. But if you stink and you lose a 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.880 bunch of games, well, all of a sudden, it won't 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.440 be that big a deal who gets to go or not, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.760 because not very many people are gonna be risking their 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.640 health and getting COVID to watch a bad football team. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.600 On the flip side, if all of a a sudden, you know, Mints, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.960 you and the team and the young players play well 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.640 and they're an exciting fun team to watch and you 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.200 look up and they're like fighting for the play off 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.320 and the division will now it's a real issue because 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.040 everybody wants to go and uh and so it'll be interesting. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.160 I think they'll be you know, there's some tough moments 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.440 to work through, and you know, good news is I 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.599 think bark lamping leadership and Chad Johnson over ticketing. I 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.319 mean they're gonna figure that out. Um, it won't be perfect, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.200 and I just hope everyone's really patient because I think 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.000 you're gonna be the best they can in that area. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.560 And then what you hope for is that there's thinking 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.360 beating at the gate with more tickets sometime in like 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.440 the late November December, like people are like just just 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.000 freaking out because they can't get tickets. Because what that 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.640 tells you, like you have a pretty good football team, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.040 Like that's good, Like now people really want to be there. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.960 So let's hope that hope that it's gonna be a 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.000 problem early, and I hope it becomes a really big 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.880 problem by the end because it beat your one football 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.200 that approach. For sure, Tony's gonna talk to you. It's 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.800 been a few weeks, man, and I'm glad to do it. Yeah, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.680 we're awesome. I'm still trying to figure out, you know 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.440 what this means for you know us. I mean, I'm 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.000 gonna you know, there's all this tier approach, tiered approach, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.120 and you know, some of my favorite times of the 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.080 years training camp, we're gonna go hang out. We watched 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.640 a little practice, but more than eight than we just 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.200 hang out and talk and have a good time. So 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.400 I'm not sure we'll be doing that this year. I 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.640 think it's you and I are in like tier nine 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.760 or ten or whatever. I don't know how many tiers 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.120 might be a tier for you and I. They might 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:27.760 have just quit tears, stay at home. There's please don't come. Yeah. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.320 That's the trick too, is access into the office, and 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.720 you know it's it's taken a little time to get 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.120 to the point they are now, but then you started 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.960 interacting with players. It's a totally different animal. We'll find 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.440 out in the coming days. 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Good afternoon, John, JP. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.119 I don't know if you heard the last promo before 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.520 the spot was that Frank Frankie's gonna be talking to 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:11.679 it every day is three sounds like a threat US. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:18.359 I don't think let go through with it. I'm kidding. Yeah, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.400 I know. Always good to hear from Franks, no doubt, John, 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.359 how you've been buddy. Has been a few weeks and 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.520 some downtime here and we're back on the show today 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.560 for the first time in about a month. Yeah, and 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.760 it's uh, you know, do you know, j P. July 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:38.679 is always sort of about rasseting back up. You know, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.120 you have your normal NFL body clock where many camp 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.040 usually wraps up around June. We all sort of know 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.280 the date and then this time of year you start 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.919 of rashing it back up and this is this is 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.720 such a weird ramp back up, very well, everybody's ready 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.040 to go. I think everybody who's worked in this even 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.879 more than a year, it feels like it's time to start, 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.960 and yet there's so many questions. We all met today 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.560 virtually sort of figure out some of the access thing, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.399 and there's still just so many questions that we're all ready. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.159 I think fans are ready, and yet every day it 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.560 feels like there's still Okay, that's how it's gonna be. Okay, 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.639 I get it, that's how it's gonna be. So it's it's, uh, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.760 you know, we've been talking on this show for three 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.520 or four months. The off season was weird and unprecedented, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.600 and you just get the idea that what's coming is 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.800 going to be just as interesting and just as fascinating 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.199 to follow. Yeah. Yeah, the runway to get off the 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.119 ground for the season has a lot of potholes in 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:39.880 it right now, John, that's kind of a good way 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.200 to look at it. It's like, and it changes constantly 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.080 the further you get down the runway here. And I 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.320