Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Jatkati and no he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: A dog in Ireland, apparently annoyed by the weight, jumped
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat and just kept laying on the
Speaker 2: horn with some moral support, it seems, from another furry
Speaker 2: friend in the back. No word tonight on whether the
Speaker 2: owners came running.
Speaker 3: So the dog just kept hitting orn. Hey, come on,
Speaker 3: I got things to do.
Speaker 4: It was Irish dogs and legendarily impatient Jack is drivers, Yes.
Speaker 5: That was a cute little white dog putting his entire
Speaker 5: his entire body into it.
Speaker 4: And the soft headed newsguy Tony Dakoppel, who I like,
Speaker 4: claimed it's because the dog was impatient with traffic.
Speaker 1: Oh, Tony, he wanted to get to the bar.
Speaker 4: Lawless Irish dogs, which brings us to an absolutely great,
Speaker 4: insightful piece that I'm not sure has made me happy
Speaker 4: or said by Chris Arnade about America's public disorder. He says,
Speaker 4: America's public disorder is a choice. America's hands off approach
Speaker 4: to mental illness and addiction is failing everyone and as
Speaker 4: he points out in the piece, he's a writer who's
Speaker 4: traveled and lived all over the world, including fairly recently.
Speaker 4: And he starts this article. He's on the one of
Speaker 4: the subway lines to O'Hare Airport in Chicagoland. A couple
Speaker 4: of guys smoking joints, sitting in a nest of filthy bags.
Speaker 4: There was a woman whose eyes were dilated in blank.
Speaker 4: There is also a man barking into the void, shirtless,
Speaker 4: washing himself with a flower tortilla. Ah the old tortilla
Speaker 4: path which would disintegrate littering the subway floor before he
Speaker 4: took out another.
Speaker 1: And began the same process. Huh, good for the skin.
Speaker 3: I wonder how fresh you smell after you have bathed
Speaker 3: with a tortilla.
Speaker 4: Tortilla smell good anyway, Chris writes, it didn't shock me
Speaker 4: or anyone else around me. He talks about the Chicago
Speaker 4: Metro Lion is just infested with that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Double the assault rate over any other major system in
Speaker 4: the country.
Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson's Chicago no coincidence.
Speaker 3: Of course, you got to keep an eye on that
Speaker 3: kind of person out of the corner of your eye,
Speaker 3: just to make sure they don't, for instance, slit your
Speaker 3: throat from behind, like we all saw on a video
Speaker 3: not long.
Speaker 4: Ago, right exactly, because those people have been turned loose
Speaker 4: over and over again by progressive DA's. But that's a
Speaker 4: kind of a different topic. Well, I guess it's not anyway.
Speaker 4: But he points out that he's witnessed similar scenes, maybe
Speaker 4: not as bad or frequent as Chicago, in Duluth, Indianapolis,
Speaker 4: El Paso, New York, Jacksonville, LA, Phoenix downtown Starbucks, no bathrooms,
Speaker 4: all closed, blah blah blah, that's my heat.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: He contrasts it with Seoul, South Korea, where he currently is,
Speaker 4: where the train from the airport is spotless. So's the
Speaker 4: ten mile River Park where I walk each day, which,
Speaker 4: given that large parts of it are shadowy spaces beneath roadways,
Speaker 4: is especially impressive. In the US, it would be made
Speaker 4: of makeshift homes, of tents, cardboard and tarps, reeking of
Speaker 4: the smell of urine and feces. The free to use
Speaker 4: JIM equipment along its length probably couldn't exist for fear
Speaker 4: of it being vandalized, et cetera. And he writes, after
Speaker 4: spending ten years traveling around the US. I've spent five
Speaker 4: years traveling the world, flying to different cities, walking around
Speaker 4: them for days at a time, a city in China,
Speaker 4: Alice Springs, Australia, Bangkok, Buenos Aires, Brussels. It's taught me
Speaker 4: a great deal about the US. Chief among these lessons
Speaker 4: is how much public disorder.
Speaker 1: We have come to accept.
Speaker 4: We are the world's richest country, yet our buses parking
Speaker 4: lots in city streets. I would add, parks are filthy,
Speaker 4: chaotic and threatening, anti social behavior common in almost every community,
Speaker 4: regardless of size. A society simply should not be this way.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be this way.
Speaker 3: Regardless of size, and regardless of how wealthy the neighborhood is.
Speaker 4: In some cases, right right, yeah, in Japan's there. Much
Speaker 4: of europe cities are walkable because they are dense, people
Speaker 4: live close together. But also public transportation tends to be fantastic.
Speaker 4: And this is not his main point, but I thought
Speaker 4: it was interesting and having just spent a week and
Speaker 4: a half in London and just loving it. In spite
Speaker 4: of Britain's growing insanity and Islamisation, it's still a wonderful city.
Speaker 4: But he points out that these cities are defined by
Speaker 4: something called mixed use zoning, where you might have an
Speaker 4: apartment on the third floor, an office on the second,
Speaker 4: and a bar on the first. And American tourists often
Speaker 4: admire the vibrancy of these cities, which can't happen here
Speaker 4: because there's a fine line between vibrant streets and squalid ones,
Speaker 4: and that line is public trust. And he talked people
Speaker 4: moving out of cities why we can't have nice things
Speaker 4: in our cities. He mentions a couple of examples that
Speaker 4: are nearly hilarious, like La Sembrita, the laughably expensive La
Speaker 4: bus stop that was supposed to provide shade and security
Speaker 4: lighting but ended up just being a single pole. It
Speaker 4: exists if you build a nice it exists. Because if
Speaker 4: you build a nice bus stop in the US, it
Speaker 4: immediately gets broken or turned into a shelter for the destitute.
Speaker 4: So the response, over time is to stop building them.
Speaker 4: I've seen this in almost every American city I've visited.
Speaker 4: Then he goes into the all the restrooms, the decent
Speaker 4: public restrooms, which are available all over the world.
Speaker 3: It's been my complaint for a long time. First hit
Speaker 3: me when my kids got of the age where they Dad,
Speaker 3: I need to go to the bathroom. It was about
Speaker 3: the same time as the we really let this explode.
Speaker 3: There are big parts of California where there just are
Speaker 3: no public bathrooms.
Speaker 1: There just aren't any for miles and miles and miles.
Speaker 1: The businesses.
Speaker 3: Don't have them if they're required by law, they claim
Speaker 3: they're out of order. They put signs on them so
Speaker 3: they don't have to deal with the junkies going in
Speaker 3: there and washing themselves. And so there just aren't any
Speaker 3: public bathrooms.
Speaker 1: Why would you allow society to break down like that?
Speaker 4: It's insane, right right, And we'll get to his kind
Speaker 4: of philosophical answer to that question. It's a big one,
Speaker 4: But I love this aspect of the piece he wrote.
Speaker 4: Here's a tweet from a woman by the name of Danielle.
Speaker 4: My husband was on a crowded train yesterday when a
Speaker 4: homeless woman got on, pulled down her pants, and peed
Speaker 4: all over the train in front of everyone. He hasn't
Speaker 4: stopped talking about it for the past twenty four plus hours.
Speaker 4: It was the single most traumatizing thing this happened to
Speaker 4: him in New York City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4: Here's the interesting part this post brought out a lot
Speaker 4: of absurd arguments. People defended the subway year and Eater
Speaker 4: by noting that stations have no public restrooms.
Speaker 1: This misses the point entirely.
Speaker 4: We don't have public bathrooms because the same people who
Speaker 4: piss on trains would trash them within days. He writes,
Speaker 4: someone peeing on the subway is not of sound mind.
Speaker 4: It's a sign of distress that should cause an intervention
Speaker 4: that results in them being institutionalized for a period of
Speaker 4: time until they regain sanity and stability. For someone actively psychotic,
Speaker 4: this means civil commitment to a psychiatric hospital for violent
Speaker 4: individuals refusing treatment, secure prison facilities with mandatory programs for
Speaker 4: a severe addiction of medical detox, and residential treatment without
Speaker 4: the ability to walk away. These people should not be
Speaker 4: allowed to do whatever they want because they cannot control
Speaker 4: themselves enough to have that freedom.
Speaker 3: Somebody should have said, hey, you're not supposed to pee
Speaker 3: on the train.
Speaker 4: Right, right, And then he gets into some of the
Speaker 4: other Bizarrow arguments that institutionalizing those people is cruel, as
Speaker 4: if it is empathetic to allow someone to suffer on
Speaker 4: the streets, tortured by their inner demons, covered in filth,
Speaker 4: high as a kite. This argument is so backward and
Speaker 4: immoral that I cannot believe that the activists and politicians
Speaker 4: to make it have spent any time around these people.
Speaker 4: They need help, and if they don't accept it, then
Speaker 4: they must be forced to get help.
Speaker 1: Then go ahead.
Speaker 3: Henry and I were eating at a restaurant yesterday and
Speaker 3: there was a guy and Henry said, there's a drug
Speaker 3: addict across the street. And there's a guy over on
Speaker 3: the corner who had been there for quite some time,
Speaker 3: spinning around, itching himself, you know, you know, the look,
Speaker 3: yelling at the top of his lungs. And I thought,
Speaker 3: why can't we get enough momentum between the We need
Speaker 3: to help these people. It's a tragedy for them. I'm
Speaker 3: not that person. I wish I was, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm the law in order. I paid for this effing sidewalk.
Speaker 3: I should be able to walk down the sidewalk without
Speaker 3: having to worry about that guy. So I would think,
Speaker 3: between the law and order crowd like me and the
Speaker 3: it's a tragedy that blah blah blah blah that's happened
Speaker 3: to him, that we could come up with a get
Speaker 3: them off the street plan get him into a facility.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you're right, and I think it may happen
Speaker 4: at some point. And clearly this is going to stretch
Speaker 4: into the next segment because there's so much good stuff here.
Speaker 4: For instance, and Jack, this will remind you of some
Speaker 4: of the progressive view run into at city council meetings,
Speaker 4: or all of us that run into. Others responded the post,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, please don't do that. Others responded to
Speaker 4: the post about the subway urinator by claiming, well, that
Speaker 4: experience is simply the price of living in a big city,
Speaker 4: and Chris Arnaide writes, that's not true. The rest of
Speaker 4: the world doesn't tolerate the amount of antisocial behavior we
Speaker 4: do in the US. If someonere to piss on someone
Speaker 4: were to piss on the subway, almost anywhere else in
Speaker 4: the world, they would be removed from society for a
Speaker 4: period of time.
Speaker 1: Well, that's funny, I always say.
Speaker 3: Between that, you know, and everything being locked up at
Speaker 3: the drug store you have to get a key to
Speaker 3: get your toothbrush. We're only, you know, a few years
Speaker 3: away from nobody remembering that it didn't used to be
Speaker 3: that way, right, So they will just think, well, it's
Speaker 3: just the price you pay to you know, live in
Speaker 3: a society. Everything has to be locked up. It's just
Speaker 3: the way things are.
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Speaker 4: like simply safe. So he's Chris Harnad is writing about
Speaker 4: how we tolerate much more antisocial behavior than virtually any
Speaker 4: other civilized civilization on Earth. We let people who aren't
Speaker 4: mentally competent continue to engage in self destructive and abundant
Speaker 4: behavior without removing them, which consequently ruins it for everyone
Speaker 4: else except those wealthy enough to build their own private
Speaker 4: islands of comfort. And then he writes, gratifyingly, I've been
Speaker 4: very careful up to now not to use the word homeless,
Speaker 4: because it's become an overly broad category that covers families
Speaker 4: and motels with Section eight vouchers, people sleeping on friends
Speaker 4: couches until they get back on their feet, mothers with
Speaker 4: children in long term shelters, and then those who live
Speaker 4: in tents, under bridges.
Speaker 1: Or sleep in soiled sleeping bags.
Speaker 4: The bums and junkies that we are always referring to
Speaker 4: on the show. Here the term homeless is used by
Speaker 4: those who would siphon taxpayer funds to hand out to
Speaker 4: their cronies because they know that term the publicity stunt
Speaker 4: is the bums and junkies. You think the money's going
Speaker 4: to help get rid of that blight, but they use
Speaker 4: the term that includes the poor families trying to get
Speaker 4: back on their feet. Right, That's how the scam works.
Speaker 4: That's why I always get agitated when people refer to
Speaker 4: the bums and junkies as the homeless, because it's a
Speaker 4: specific strategy they use to rip off tax payers.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even like the term homeless. It's unhoused.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then he points out the vast majority don't cause
Speaker 4: any problems with all at all. It's the stubbornly intransigent
Speaker 4: minority who have options but turn them down for a
Speaker 4: variety of reasons. Metal demons, drugs, something simply out of preference.
Speaker 4: All right, what's going on? And how do we fix
Speaker 4: it that? After a short.
Speaker 1: Build more jails. That's how you fix it. That's part
Speaker 1: of it. Uh.
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Speaker 4: listen to the previous segment in which you're digging deep
Speaker 4: into a piece by a fellow bind the name of
Speaker 4: Chris Arnade about how bums and junkies and filth and
Speaker 4: crime on the streets is practically uniquely American. Nobody else
Speaker 4: puts up with it, and we didn't used to, And
Speaker 4: just a couple of quick notes before we get to
Speaker 4: his real conclusion, and he talks about, well, gosh, let's
Speaker 4: just jump to it. Beneath all the discussion is the
Speaker 4: additional question of why we in the US have so
Speaker 4: many mentally unstable people, Why are so many addicted to drugs,
Speaker 4: Why so many people have grown comfortable with shocking behavior.
Speaker 4: He says, I walked twelve miles through Soul yesterday and
Speaker 4: I saw zero destitute people, certainly no homeless. I did
Speaker 4: see the same group of drunk men I always see
Speaker 4: playing cards near the river because Koreans drink an immense amount.
Speaker 4: But as far as daytime drunks go, their behavior was exemplary.
Speaker 4: When they had to urinate, they walked the two hundred
Speaker 4: yards to the public bathroom, which they left as clean
Speaker 4: as when they came. When they wanted to throw away
Speaker 4: their empty bottles, they collected them and walked them to
Speaker 4: the trash can, even putting the appropriate ones into the
Speaker 4: recycling bin. Almost no Korean, even the drunks, would ever
Speaker 4: think of peeing on the metro, even if they thought
Speaker 4: they could get away with it. And yes, they're legal consequences.
Speaker 4: But then he gets to the key. But culture does
Speaker 4: most of the work. Shoreans are raised to be good
Speaker 4: citizens and not break rules with public shame as enforcement,
Speaker 4: so laws nearly rarely need enforcement. And then he gets
Speaker 4: into fairly briefly, the US has a different model that
Speaker 4: emphasizes individuality over the communal, with our culture focused not
Speaker 4: on being a good, good citizen first, but on finding
Speaker 4: our true self and exploring that and hopefully making a
Speaker 4: lot of money along the way. Koreans are citizens, we
Speaker 4: are entrepreneurs. It's one of our greatest strengths. But I
Speaker 4: would summarize the rest of his argument, but it's gone
Speaker 4: way too far.
Speaker 3: We've always been that way, though, and we weren't cheering
Speaker 3: on the.
Speaker 1: Buses exactly exactly right.
Speaker 4: And you know, we've actually been talking about this for
Speaker 4: a couple of decades now.
Speaker 1: And and I think gen xers, which we barely are,
Speaker 1: not a boomer, not a boomer x er. I'm the
Speaker 1: lastic Oh.
Speaker 4: My god, okay, like a boomer, that's right, Okay, So
Speaker 4: but anyway, I think we are uniquely positioned in a
Speaker 4: way because we grew up in a distinctly post World
Speaker 4: War two. Your duty to the country, your family, and
Speaker 4: your community trumped any individual desire you might have. That
Speaker 4: was born of the necessity of the conflicts of the
Speaker 4: twentieth century and the and the Cold War and the
Speaker 4: rest of it.
Speaker 1: You can do your own thing within limits.
Speaker 4: You will not betray the trust of your family or
Speaker 4: your town, et cetera. And then we saw that morph
Speaker 4: into a much more affluent, not threatened. Reality of everything's great,
Speaker 4: so you can do whatever you want. Duty sounds you know, suffocating,
Speaker 4: And it has something to do with why so few
Speaker 4: people are having children and families now.
Speaker 1: But which is the chicken? Which is the egg? I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4: Uh, let me, let me finish it, Jet and then Jack,
Speaker 4: if you have anything you want to throw in. Obviously
Speaker 4: have had it that some people need strict social guidelines.
Speaker 4: We have a far larger number of people prone to
Speaker 4: antisocial tendencies and mental illness. Some people need strict social guidelines.
Speaker 4: We don't have them. If our elevated levels of addiction
Speaker 4: and mental illness are consequences of our culture of individuality,
Speaker 4: as I believe they are, the we have a moral
Speaker 4: responsibility to take sufferers off the street and care for them.
Speaker 4: The just thing to do for all of our society
Speaker 4: is to enforce norms in public spaces. We can have
Speaker 4: nice things, we just have to decide we deserve them.
Speaker 4: We must enforce norms in public spaces. It's good for everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice that you look at it. That guard
Speaker 3: looks at it from the compassion side of it. Again,
Speaker 3: I look at it from law and order side of it.
Speaker 3: You can end up in the same spot.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: That guy over there who's nuts out of his mind,
Speaker 3: he needs to be institutionalized. I want to do it
Speaker 3: because it makes my life better. Right that other guys right,
Speaker 3: because he's kind and compassionate. Fine, whatever, as long as
Speaker 3: the guy gets off the street and in some sort
Speaker 3: of institution.
Speaker 4: The one perverse view that's not supportable is the one
Speaker 4: that wins the day in blue states, and that it
Speaker 4: is compassionate to let somebody mentally ill die on the
Speaker 4: streets or kill themselves with drugs on the streets, or back.
Speaker 3: To my side of it, it's okay to let taxpayers
Speaker 3: who are following the rules have to live with this
Speaker 3: s Yeah, those arguments are lunacy and they should never
Speaker 3: have won.
Speaker 1: The day we got our roll impack. I'm not hopeful,
Speaker 1: get hopeful, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of bad faith negotiation and a
Speaker 6: lot of bad faith, you know, propaganda going on. I
Speaker 6: think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the
Speaker 6: Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't.
Speaker 6: We never made that promise, we never indicated that was
Speaker 6: going to be the case. What we said is that
Speaker 6: the ceasefire would be focused on Iran and the ceasefire
Speaker 6: would be focused on America's allies, both Israel and the
Speaker 6: golf Air of States.
Speaker 3: So JD says it was just an honest misunderstanding. They
Speaker 3: thought the ceasefire included Israel not firing.
Speaker 1: On uh Hesbalah. I don't know what to believe.
Speaker 3: And part of the mess might be, as we kept
Speaker 3: talking about yesterday, there are different groups speaking out of Iran,
Speaker 3: and there were some groups. There might be one group
Speaker 3: that made that agreement said yeah, that's fine, and then
Speaker 3: another group that said, no, that ain't fine, And we're
Speaker 3: the ones that are going to put out of press
Speaker 3: release and add this to that, looking at the flip
Speaker 3: side of what JD was saying, what we have to
Speaker 3: say to Iran is that, oh, no, your proxies that
Speaker 3: have been sowing terror and death and Sharia law all
Speaker 3: over the region and killing all of our soldiers and
Speaker 3: the rest of it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, We're going to squash the hell
Speaker 4: out of them. It's got nothing to do with this ceasefire.
Speaker 4: The IRGC and the Mullahs or whoever's in charge are
Speaker 4: almost certainly going to say.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't agree to that.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to agree to that because I don't
Speaker 4: think you have the balls to wipe us out.
Speaker 1: Pardon me.
Speaker 3: We're into day two of the ceasefire. Using my finger quotes,
Speaker 3: here's Ian panel of ABC News on where things are
Speaker 3: day two.
Speaker 7: The sea fire is already looking shaky, the Ranian regime
Speaker 7: claiming that the temporary agreement to whole hostilities has already
Speaker 7: been violated, in particular by escalating Israeli attacks against Iranian
Speaker 7: bat Militia Hesbala in Lebanon. By President Vance insisting Lebanon
Speaker 7: was never parts of the ceasefire agreement, but Iran and
Speaker 7: Mediate's Pakistan have both said a seafire in Lebanon is
Speaker 7: part of the agreement.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Pakistan, who's the supposed mediator, honest broker between the two sides,
Speaker 3: said that was part of the agreement. That was part
Speaker 3: of the agreement.
Speaker 1: We saw it.
Speaker 3: Part of the agreement was Israel stops fire and at Hesbal.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're honest or not. As Mark
Speaker 3: Alprin pointed out in his newsletter this morning, these are
Speaker 3: the people that had been laden from US the Pakistans.
Speaker 4: So I just wish I sounded more like Ian Panell
Speaker 4: I mean, how compelling would it be.
Speaker 1: Domino said the peace would be here in half an hour.
Speaker 1: It's been forty two minutes. Just everything with that intensity.
Speaker 1: They lied in their advertisement the dog must be walked.
Speaker 3: So the thing was the Strait of hor Moves was
Speaker 3: supposed to open, and not a single ship, not a
Speaker 3: single oil tanker went through in twenty four hours, and
Speaker 3: only four ships. And it was the fewest number of
Speaker 3: ships going through since the war started. So it didn't
Speaker 3: become more open, it became more.
Speaker 4: Closed after the ceasefire, and the IRGC is thinking, you know,
Speaker 4: our navy's wiped out in our air force and all,
Speaker 4: but we've got a brand new, super profitable business and
Speaker 4: we're still in charge of raping our country.
Speaker 1: So okay, cool.
Speaker 3: The New York Times released an excerpt from a new
Speaker 3: book that's coming out yesterday, written by Jonathan Swan, who
Speaker 3: we've generally liked over the years and Maggie Haberman, who
Speaker 3: have generally hated over the.
Speaker 1: Years of The New York Times. Utterly, yes, mag but.
Speaker 3: The excerpt somebody leaked. I mean this was when and
Speaker 3: Trump is a source for this book. He's on the
Speaker 3: record in the book throughout the book, and he might
Speaker 3: be a source for some of the secret stuff. Is
Speaker 3: a lot of the speculation because he's a wily guy.
Speaker 3: But the story that leaked out is that Babingt and
Speaker 3: Yahoo came I think early February to the White House
Speaker 3: and gave a big presentation on here are your options
Speaker 3: with Iran and what you should do. The director of
Speaker 3: the CIA said, that's farcical, I think was a term
Speaker 3: he used, that we could do that or would do that.
Speaker 3: Marco Rubio is quoted in the pieces saying, so it's
Speaker 3: bulls the plan that they had to, you know, take
Speaker 3: over the straight bomb, grab the uranium, all these different
Speaker 3: things that we've been talking about doing since this whole
Speaker 3: thing started, but then it happened.
Speaker 1: So this piece.
Speaker 3: Sort of, I guess, is trying to push readers the
Speaker 3: direction of we Dan to Israel's tune.
Speaker 4: More. Israel persuaded Trump that the time was right and
Speaker 4: the opportunity was there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possibly charitable, possible. He just decided, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: Well, he's been making noise about iron can't have a
Speaker 4: nuke like way before he was in polog his seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's and despising that regimes is appropriate.
Speaker 3: That's a misrepresentation by certain crowds out there too, that
Speaker 3: Trump has misled his base. He ran as the anti
Speaker 3: war president, and look what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He ran on no.
Speaker 3: Forever wars that don't accomplish anything, but he was all
Speaker 3: about bombing iss back to the Stone Age, and in Iraq,
Speaker 3: we should have taken the oil and all kinds of
Speaker 3: very aggressive things that he talked about over the years.
Speaker 1: And did, which was a great thing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, announced that's practically all there is is the Straight
Speaker 4: going to open or not.
Speaker 3: Without because currently this is co according to open source intelligence.
Speaker 3: Currently the way they're running it is this. Iran is
Speaker 3: demanding that oil tankers passing through the Straight make toll
Speaker 3: payments in the form of cryptocurrency, which would include Bitcoin
Speaker 3: or Trump's family's USD one.
Speaker 1: Crypto currency, Oh boy.
Speaker 3: Vessels have been told to email Iranian authorities prior to
Speaker 3: passage through the area with details regarding their cargo. Then
Speaker 3: Iran will calculate how much they're gonna charge you. Somewhere
Speaker 3: around a dollar a barrel, of oil, which could add
Speaker 3: up to a couple million dollars per boat that they
Speaker 3: let through, that they would pay in cryptocurrency using Trump's crypto,
Speaker 3: which would make the Trump family money. That's a bit
Speaker 3: of an uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 1: I will never utter another word about Hunter.
Speaker 3: Biden since Trump yesterday told ABC News that, yeah, we
Speaker 3: might partner with Iran on charging a toll.
Speaker 1: That might not be about what. Oh boy, Katie.
Speaker 5: That whole situation you just said sounds like one of
Speaker 5: those token phone scams that were all warning people about
Speaker 5: all the time. Just wire us some crypto and we'll
Speaker 5: get your loved one out of prison or whatever, right.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, send us two million dollars in cryptocurrency and
Speaker 3: we'll let the boat through.
Speaker 4: What both And if you haven't done the math, that
Speaker 4: would be billions and billions of dollars in revenue every
Speaker 4: year for the I ERGYC.
Speaker 3: Right, And then you you're by definition giving them the
Speaker 3: ability to close it back down in time they want
Speaker 3: for them to say, you know what, we've just decided.
Speaker 3: Remember the whole dollar a barrel, it's two dollars a barrow,
Speaker 3: and it's closed until y'all agree, right, right, Why wouldn't
Speaker 3: you discussed if we back down. It's been demonstrated that
Speaker 3: the world is not willing to.
Speaker 4: Open it back up, force it open, and the precedent
Speaker 4: that would that would be horrific. China, you know, Russia,
Speaker 4: malign powers all over the world, would start restricting shipping
Speaker 4: and extorting shipping companies and boats in a way that
Speaker 4: hasn't happened since World War Two thanks to the US
Speaker 4: policing the oceans, which has been an incredible aid to
Speaker 4: the rising standards of living of humans all over the
Speaker 4: globe and the declines in infant mortality and mortality in general.
Speaker 4: And blah blah blah. Read Enlightenment now by Stephen Pinker
Speaker 4: if you get a chance.
Speaker 3: Part of this, part of this might just be that
Speaker 3: Trump thinks this is where we're headed, so let's get there.
Speaker 1: The world is going to split.
Speaker 3: Into two spheres of influence, the China sphere and the
Speaker 3: US sphere. It's where we're going anyway. It's just a
Speaker 3: matter of time. They're gonna take Taiwan. We're not going
Speaker 3: to stop them. Then they're gonna charge tolls or not
Speaker 3: allow boats or whatever over there.
Speaker 4: We might as well start here. That might just be
Speaker 4: his calculation. It's not out of the Yeah, huh, I
Speaker 4: don't think.
Speaker 1: We'd like it's going to be different. Get used to it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to either.
Speaker 4: Would you like to hear about the big NATO practicing
Speaker 4: for drone war exercises?
Speaker 1: It's pretty heavy. Well, yeah, it's war jack war.
Speaker 3: I've got our free speech around burger murals. Oh story
Speaker 3: that our friends at the Pacific Legal Foundation have taken
Speaker 3: up standing up for the burger. You might end up
Speaker 3: going to the Supreme Court, which would be very exciting.
Speaker 4: Hamburger is called a hamburger, which is a reference to
Speaker 4: hamburg Germany, because I think the mighty Hamburger could be
Speaker 4: ready to take over as the symbol of Americana for
Speaker 4: the apple pie.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 3: I had a hamburger last night, pretty good, one jealous,
Speaker 3: put ketch upon it, some tomatoes, cheese?
Speaker 1: Did you the whole thing? Oh? Cheese? You say?
Speaker 3: I was watching the show Katie's Gonna Hate This. I
Speaker 3: was watching a show what was it? Who's the cook
Speaker 3: that yells at everybody on the TV shows? Boby No,
Speaker 3: Gordon Ramsey and my son who loves cooking videos, was
Speaker 3: watching Gordon Ramsey prepare a burger to grill, and got
Speaker 3: it looked like.
Speaker 1: A lot of work.
Speaker 3: Here's what I do for my burgers. Because somebody's telling
Speaker 3: me the other day what they do for their burgers
Speaker 3: to get him ready to grill, And I explained, allboy,
Speaker 3: I buy the pre made patties, I cut open the
Speaker 3: plastic and then I put the burger on the grill.
Speaker 1: When it's cooked, I take it off and eat it.
Speaker 3: That's what I do to my burgers.
Speaker 1: Got to season the meat. Got why I like the
Speaker 1: taste of hamburger.
Speaker 4: You don't get to say no, you're not allowed to
Speaker 4: have an opinion on that. That and golf. Sorry, it's
Speaker 4: just not allowed. I just I like the flavor of
Speaker 4: the burger.
Speaker 3: And it just seems like so much work to get
Speaker 3: all out of this stuff in here, rubbing oil on
Speaker 3: it and letting it sit.
Speaker 4: And putting this and that and beach your plane burger,
Speaker 4: cave man, go ahead.
Speaker 5: He probably gets a lot of seasoning from the spatue like.
Speaker 3: He leaves on the ground starting in diet.
Speaker 1: But that's true. I do have ground seasoning from.
Speaker 3: The specula that I just lay on, particularly.
Speaker 1: Because my girl of pollen, a little dust, my girls
Speaker 1: way down there by my feet.
Speaker 3: Interesting free speech case we got coming up, among other things,
Speaker 3: stay here.
Speaker 4: In order to control the exploding population, Washington, DC is
Speaker 4: putting rats on birth control.
Speaker 1: Perfect for anyone.
Speaker 4: Thinking I wish all these rats also.
Speaker 1: Had mood swings. Wow. Wow, did not see that bunchline coming.
Speaker 1: So we were just talking about Hamburgers.
Speaker 3: If you're a fan of Hamberger's, Like if you look
Speaker 3: at a book or list of top Hamburgers in America,
Speaker 3: quite possibly you'll come across the Cozy Inn in the
Speaker 3: middle of the country in Salina, Kansas. It's a burger
Speaker 3: joint that it's been there for a hundred years. It's
Speaker 3: known by many burger fans, and uh, I remember USA
Speaker 3: Today featuring it a couple of years back and everything
Speaker 3: like that. If you're ever traveling across the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 3: stop and get a Cozy Burger. I've had them. I'm
Speaker 3: headed to that town tonight. That's where my parents live,
Speaker 3: It's where Joe and I started our radio careers. But
Speaker 3: the interesting thing in this story is this really old
Speaker 3: burger joint decided to paint a mural on the front
Speaker 3: of their building of hamburgers that look kind of.
Speaker 1: Like flying saucers. It looks cool. I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: picture right now.
Speaker 3: It just looks cool. It looks old timey and cool. Anyway,
Speaker 3: it ran up against the cities no murals that are
Speaker 3: advertisements rule that they have and the city told them
Speaker 3: you can't put that up to me. Here's the interesting
Speaker 3: part of the story. And now the Pacific Legal Foundation
Speaker 3: is has picked up the case.
Speaker 1: We like them.
Speaker 3: At PLF standing up for what's good and right all
Speaker 3: the time, standing up for the burger guy. What's interesting
Speaker 3: to me because this happens lots around the country. The
Speaker 3: little town of Salina, Kansas, taxpayer money being used. The
Speaker 3: city has spent eight hundred thousand dollars of taxpayer money
Speaker 3: in this little town trying to force this guy to
Speaker 3: paint over the burgers he painted on his building. Oh boy,
Speaker 3: paid one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things you could do in a
Speaker 3: small town with that much money, including give it back
Speaker 3: to the people that belonged to since it's taxpayer money.
Speaker 3: But cities do this all the time, where they wage
Speaker 3: these battles over things with your money. Happens a lot,
Speaker 3: or they screw up sometimes and then they have to
Speaker 3: pay out a settlement and it's your money also. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see how it goes down. A
Speaker 3: federal district court has already sided with the Burger Joint
Speaker 3: in the city's mural versus signed distinction, calling it arbitrary
Speaker 3: and discriminatory. Solana, Kansas has appealed it to the Tenth
Speaker 3: Circuit anyway, and some legal experts think this will go
Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court. I can't imagine why it would
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 4: But why I see there are like seven national organizations
Speaker 4: led by, of course, the Great Pacific Legal Foundation, joining
Speaker 4: the amicus brief on the Cozyan's side.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's interesting. Most of the people I know in
Speaker 3: that town are on the side of the city for
Speaker 3: some reason.
Speaker 1: The argument is not insane.
Speaker 4: We don't want ugly signage everywhere on every building in
Speaker 4: the city.
Speaker 1: And if we restrict.
Speaker 4: It, if we let cozy In do it, we gotta
Speaker 4: let everybody.
Speaker 3: Do it right, right, that's the argument. Sure, I wish.
Speaker 3: That's why. You know, getting a lawyers involved and getting
Speaker 3: in the letter of the law is always so difficult,
Speaker 3: because if you could just go with a does it
Speaker 3: look good or not?
Speaker 1: This looks good.
Speaker 3: I can picture things that would look bad. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: want those sub put me in charge or someone in
Speaker 3: charge the does it look good or bad commission.
Speaker 1: It's got to be cheaper than eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: So the Goldwater Institute is part of this, as well
Speaker 4: as the Alliance Defending Freedom. Yeah, and let me hit
Speaker 4: you with a quote from their brief. Even though there
Speaker 4: are numerous murals in downtown Salina, and even though Salina
Speaker 4: holds an annual festival to celebrate the paintings and add
Speaker 4: new murals all over town, Salina contends the Coseyans' sign
Speaker 4: is uniquely harmful.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.
Speaker 3: That's why it became a big deal. It's kind of
Speaker 3: an interesting thing. This particular town decided to paint these
Speaker 3: giant murals on all kinds of different things. Grain elevators,
Speaker 3: if you know how big those are. There, like skyscrapers,
Speaker 3: these big, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Murals that have been painted on them.
Speaker 3: And there's there's that all over the place, on buildings,
Speaker 3: great elevators, everything like that that I've never seen anywhere else.
Speaker 3: They felt like this was getting in the way of that.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna have all those our beautiful mural project
Speaker 3: ruined by every business planning and calling it a mural.
Speaker 3: But it's just an ad for their business on their walls.
Speaker 3: That's what cooked it all off.
Speaker 4: Good quote here from the Goldwater Institute in Manhattan. Institute
Speaker 4: brief quote. The city's arbitrary choice to allow murals, indeed
Speaker 4: celebrate and highlight them if they say some things but
Speaker 4: not others, based on nothing more than the fact that
Speaker 4: the latter includes some reference to trade, is unconstitutional. Salina
Speaker 4: may regulate visual expression only by applying neutral, time, place,
Speaker 4: and manner restrictions, not by picking and choosing between what
Speaker 4: it considers worthy and unworthy forms of expression.
Speaker 3: I'll take a picture of some of the murals when
Speaker 3: I'm there tomorrow and show you because it's a pretty
Speaker 3: cool thing. But so, here's an interesting thing about the
Speaker 3: cozyin burger place, Katie. Nobody goes in. It's only got
Speaker 3: like six stools. Anyway, nobody goes in. You have the
Speaker 3: burgers handed to you out a window because they're so smelly.
Speaker 3: You will smell like them all day long and annoy
Speaker 3: your co workers if you.
Speaker 1: Goes correct, Yes, I remember it.
Speaker 3: It makes you stink, so like onions, nobody goes in.
Speaker 3: They have them handed through the window, and then you
Speaker 3: like put them in your trunk and take them to work.
Speaker 4: And eat them. In fact, the mural that has a
Speaker 4: delicious cozy burger which is like a super high quality
Speaker 4: white castle burger from any For anybody who's ever had
Speaker 4: that sort of thing, it says, don't fear the smell
Speaker 4: the funds inside.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess don't make sense. It's the only food
Speaker 3: I've ever eaten where they suggest you have it handed
Speaker 3: to you through a window, otherwise you'll stink all day.
Speaker 5: Oh my, my buddy worked it in and out and
Speaker 5: he permanently smelled like it really.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the time I've known people in lines
Speaker 1: of work like that. You can't wash it off.
Speaker 3: No, I smelled like cow dung all the time, could
Speaker 3: working in the feed lots, and you couldn't wash it off.
Speaker 3: I mean there's no showering that it has.
Speaker 1: To wear off. Luckily, chicks really dig that. It was earthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the in and out smell is it onions?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of an overall greasy burger. They have
Speaker 1: that distinct smell. I don't know what it is. They
Speaker 1: should sell it as a cologne. We got more on
Speaker 1: the way.
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