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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: I liberated myself and my lab from the academy and

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Speaker 2: that I am doing and have always done, has been

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Speaker 2: for black wellness. Clearentran people of colors wellness, but while

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Speaker 2: working in academia, I didn't have it, and the folks

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting.

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Speaker 4: Women like you.

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Speaker 5: We're your hosts.

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Speaker 6: Doctor Dominique Brussard, a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker in a

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Speaker 4: world where Black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood. Please

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Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 4: five Roads to fake friends, and create a safe space

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Speaker 4: where black women can just be.

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Speaker 2: Lady.

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Speaker 4: Today, we have a very special guest, and we are

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Speaker 4: so excited for this conversation. We think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be healing for ourselves and also for use. Let's go

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Speaker 4: ahead and jump into this impressive bio. Doctor Della V.

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Speaker 4: Mosley is a healer, scholar, activist, and space maker who

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Speaker 4: uses black feminist approaches to facilitate holistic wellness for people

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Speaker 4: of the globality, particularly Black people, in all, queer and

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Speaker 4: transgender people of color. Doctor Della earned a PhD in

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Speaker 4: counseling psychology as the president of the Wales Healing Centered

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Speaker 4: nonprofit and co founded the Radical Healing Collaborative, a mental

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Speaker 4: health group practice in Durham, North Carolina. Doctor Della has

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Speaker 4: published over thirty peer reviewed articles and book chapters centered

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Speaker 4: on wellness and liberations.

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Speaker 5: That go find those articles y'all and check them out. Okay.

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Speaker 4: They also co founded the Initiative Academics for Black Survival

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Speaker 4: and Wellness and recently presented a TEDx talk entitled moving

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Speaker 4: from Woke to Working for Black Futures. Del Welcome to

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Speaker 4: cultivating her spine. Thank you so much, So cool to

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Speaker 4: be here with y'all. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 5: You're so welcome. We're so excited.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we are ready to dive into this conversation. And

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Speaker 6: so I start us with the quote of the day. Now, Della,

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Speaker 6: these words will sound really familiar to you, as we

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Speaker 6: have been through your social media and we have watched

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Speaker 6: videos and your words are often very prolific. So this

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Speaker 6: quote comes from your commitment speech at Palo Alto University. Okay,

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Speaker 6: if we're not taking care of ourselves, how can we

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Speaker 6: truly take care of others? Hurt people, hurt people, and

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Speaker 6: we gotta stop the hurt. And I'm gonna read that

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Speaker 6: one more time for the people in the back to

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Speaker 6: make sure you hurt it. If we're not taking care

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Speaker 6: of ourselves, how can we truly take care of others?

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Speaker 6: Hurt people, hurt people. We got to stop the hurt, oh,

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Speaker 6: any dol, we do. We gotta stop the hurt when

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Speaker 6: it's coming out. Like all the band aids applied, pressure applied.

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Speaker 6: Notice the blood it was infrankly, and also stopped the

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Speaker 6: hurt from happening, prevented blacket. It was the same hurch

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Speaker 2: Who are calling themselves healers, and the role of being

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Speaker 6: Yes it is and so as this quote has set

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Speaker 5: For our conversation.

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Speaker 6: But before we really get into it, we want to

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Speaker 6: know who you are, So Dello or doctor Dello. What

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Speaker 6: Della the Molesley that we see and hear from today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you for pulling that quote.

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Speaker 2: That was not a piece of that speech that I

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Speaker 2: And I'm excited for how to unfold in this conversation

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Speaker 2: I have. But yeah, I love stories and storytelling, so

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Speaker 5: I'm from the Midwest, Rockford, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And so I am now I am, yeah in those

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Speaker 2: But the place is where it's really dreamy for me

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Speaker 5: In some really sweet ways right now. That is so

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Speaker 5: So thank you for again for being here.

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Speaker 4: And I want to go back to something that you

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Speaker 4: So first of all, trudos, see I see what you

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Speaker 5: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 4: And then I want to know your perspective on selfishness

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Speaker 4: how we can't really how can we take care of

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Speaker 5: Is there a feeling tell us about selfishness?

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Speaker 5: The emotion I feel like it came right was just

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Speaker 2: I've struggled with that feeling or selfishness. We're taking care

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Speaker 2: I'd like to say when it comes to these categories

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Speaker 6: Thank you for providing that framework. And before we go

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate the multifaceted woman,

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Speaker 4: come on, come on, you already do so. We want

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Speaker 4: to invite you to the O U Blatchet segment? Do

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Speaker 5: I except? Yes, Okay, good, we got you. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 5: So now we're gonna tell you what to expect.

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Speaker 4: So now that you've agreed, we're gonna ask you three

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Speaker 4: So the first question is what's the best piece of

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Speaker 5: Okay, enough that I asked case, I think yeah, right

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Speaker 2: Say three free, be serious about your brain, free breath,

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Speaker 6: Now let's go all right, So in given the option,

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, here letting, let it go, yes, yes, free.

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Speaker 5: We are here for it. Okay, we're here for it.

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Speaker 5: And that's right. We're either it's working all day. Okay, dells.

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Speaker 6: One question or topic I wish people asked me about more.

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Speaker 5: Often is my nibbling.

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Speaker 4: I want to tell you all about my nibblings.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that is so beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I wish we could go through all these photos look good, Dela.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so can you choose the number please out of

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Speaker 4: one in three and I'll share the photo my girls

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Speaker 4: for three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm so happy you chose this.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 5: I hope you do. Okay, y'all wait for this.

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Speaker 4: So, Dela, if you can describe the photo first and

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Speaker 4: then give us some context about the photo once you

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Speaker 4: see it. I'm so happy you chose this photo because

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Speaker 4: it's so cute. Okay, let's see.

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Speaker 2: I should be able to see it now, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This is me on a patio, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: patio in Puerto Rico and the summertime at a I

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Speaker 2: a Black Lives Matter side behind me, There's a trans

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Speaker 2: celebrating one of my best iears, but my co founder.

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Speaker 5: Of the Radical Healing Practice and one of my best friends.

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Speaker 2: For like fourteen years, David Young Oh's birthday with a

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Speaker 2: just having a ball in Puerto Rico, resting and loving

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Speaker 2: that is some joyous freedom on my face right there.

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Speaker 5: That is by.

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Speaker 4: Describing it and playing along with us, that looks beautiful,

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Speaker 5: What would that be? Yeah, I being you can probably

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Speaker 2: Of where I am in my healing work is It's

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Speaker 2: like a very particular moment and I it has me

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Speaker 2: you know, tell my younger self to slow down and

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Speaker 2: be more present, like I was always racing and this

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Speaker 2: is something that I still actively, you know, try to

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Speaker 2: work against. But I which I teach them some mindfulness

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Speaker 2: or invite them to like document their journey a little

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Speaker 2: bit more. I used to, like I have a diary,

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Speaker 2: put it aside, but for those times when you know,

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Speaker 2: knowing that trauma is going to come, for many black

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Speaker 2: fans and not binary folks like throughout life than that

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Speaker 2: means there's having need to pull to get out of

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Speaker 2: your body and so you know later I'll make In

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Speaker 2: the last seven eight years, I think I started to

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Speaker 2: be more serious about my journaling practice, about leaving little

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Speaker 2: notes and reminders and ways to track and come back

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Speaker 2: to myself, right, so that so that they I saw

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Speaker 2: that I could transition from having to come back to

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Speaker 2: myself to like never really leaving myself long enough for

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Speaker 2: to say that I was gone, right. But like, one

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Speaker 2: of the ways that has been really supportive for me

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Speaker 2: in that part of my healing is mindfulness and journaling

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Speaker 2: and just anything that will help me practice and body

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Speaker 2: being in my body being present. So I would the

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Speaker 2: slow down message and invitation would be something I would

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Speaker 2: offer to.

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Speaker 5: My little self.

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Speaker 6: I think so many of our little selves need that message, right,

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Speaker 6: need to slow down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so.

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Speaker 6: I know that part of the slowing down and is

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Speaker 6: tapping into and working on healing the trauma that we

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Speaker 6: may have experienced in our lives, right, and oftentimes trauma

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Speaker 6: happens in the workplace. That's true, and we've been seeing

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Speaker 6: in the news a lot lately the resignations a sudden

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Speaker 6: depth of black women in administrative rules within academia. And

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Speaker 6: we know that that experience is not just common for

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Speaker 6: black women within academia but across all different types of

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Speaker 6: work environments, but we've been seeing it focus more recently.

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Speaker 5: On black women in academia. Mm hmm. You mentioned that

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Speaker 5: you had a role in acade.

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Speaker 6: I mean you went through academia as a student, but

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Speaker 6: then you spent some time as a faculty member. Can

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Speaker 6: transition out of academia and what advice you would have

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Speaker 6: for some women who are looking to lean a toxic

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Speaker 5: Yes, um, hum, that friend, I see her. I love

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Speaker 5: to see your Oh yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Really like a part of my origin story that I

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Speaker 2: didn't mention is but for folks have seen my ted talk.

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Speaker 2: They've heard about my my best friend and roommate, Heather,

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Speaker 2: who passedor way while they're in law school. And I

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Speaker 2: just remember so vividly sitting on the phone Pior and

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Speaker 2: hearing stories of racism and sexism, and then she she

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Speaker 2: died in her second semester law school. And that was

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Speaker 2: part of like having her leave us so young made

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Speaker 2: me start to just take way more seriously how I'm

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Speaker 2: spending every moment that I have here on this earth.

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Speaker 2: And so it's like, and that was so long ago,

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Speaker 2: that was you know, I think two thousand seven, it

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Speaker 2: this moment now where there's so much publicity of these

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Speaker 2: recent losses, it's like they're a really intense moment that yeah,

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Speaker 2: that it impacts me on so many different levels. I

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Speaker 2: feel like, on one hand, really so grateful to be

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Speaker 2: in a space where I was able to be in

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Speaker 2: tune with myself and my knees and to be like

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Speaker 2: to be in a practice while I was in academia

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Speaker 2: that had me constantly checking in with my wellness and

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Speaker 2: moving towards my wholeness, so that when I started to

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Speaker 2: feel the build up of the microaggressions and the constant

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Speaker 2: just overt racism and discrimination, that I was able to

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Speaker 2: find a way to move myself out before it got

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Speaker 2: too bad. But there was a period where it was

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Speaker 2: really scary, like moving sleep, I am feeling just tension

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Speaker 2: I'm getting starting to get regular headaches, right, like just

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Speaker 2: any day that there's a faculty meeting that these like

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Speaker 2: the theological symptoms are sort of coming as well as

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Speaker 2: just like the amount of stress and exhaustion that came

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Speaker 2: from like figuring out the strategies to move through it.

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Speaker 2: So this is I'm like, now, I'm three years I've been.

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Speaker 2: I resigned on juneteenth of twenty twenty one, goodbye, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I say, I liberated myself and my labs

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Speaker 2: from the academy and have been building and creating a

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Speaker 2: space where there is more alignment, where I feel more

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Speaker 2: integrity because the work that I am doing and have

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Speaker 2: always done has been for black wellness, clearentran people of

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Speaker 2: colors wellness, But while working in academia, I didn't have it,

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Speaker 2: and the folks who I was nurturing and mentoring didn't

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Speaker 2: have so much of it outside of a couple of pockets.

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Speaker 5: Right, So I'm feeling like some release now and then also.

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Speaker 2: Very serious about being a space a container for folks

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Speaker 2: who are still there to be held and be you know,

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Speaker 2: coached and supported as they get towards their wholeness, either

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Speaker 2: in or outside of academia. So yeah, I'm feeling heatiness.

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Speaker 2: I just want to I want to say the names

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Speaker 2: you know of our recent loss of good systems, my

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Speaker 2: dear head, their scoull but doctor Antoinette, Bonnie Candia Bailey,

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Speaker 2: names that have been well known for anywhere listening or

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Speaker 2: just honor the parts if you're in academia, the parts

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Speaker 2: of you that might have been murdered right as you

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Speaker 2: went through. A lot of the students who are work

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Speaker 2: just been mentoring over the years, they're experiencing like these

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Speaker 2: are twenty five and twenty seven year olds experiencing strokes,

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Speaker 2: you know, being in ICU for different levels of as

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Speaker 2: a result of stress, pressure, grind culture, the John Henry

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Speaker 2: ism that happens in in academia. It's constant, It's been

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Speaker 2: here and it is soul crushing and literally taking rise.

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Speaker 2: So have so much modern empathy and compassion and heartbreak

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Speaker 5: We are usual and for folks who you know like me,

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Speaker 5: who had to leave and who are grieving that identity,

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Speaker 5: that self, that possibility pathway that was there, that has

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Speaker 5: been taken, that we had to exchange, you know, life

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Speaker 5: on this planet for this career. That is really sadisfying

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Speaker 5: in these other ways. Maybe be well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We're serious about our wellness and like, yeah, sorry, I

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Speaker 2: just want to go back to close that piece up

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Speaker 2: with like the it's like we can, we need to honor,

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Speaker 2: we need to grieve and thinking about prevention, It's like

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Speaker 2: I just hopefolks are tapping in with themselves, our present

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Speaker 2: with themselves, are in their bodies to know what their

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Speaker 2: bodies are seeing, feeling, needing, crying out for and I

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Speaker 2: hope that we can be accountable to that crime.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you so much for sharing. And as

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Speaker 5: you were sharing, it made me think about someone who

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Speaker 5: might be listening, who wants, who wants to be on

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Speaker 5: their healing and wellness journey, but maybe doesn't know where

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Speaker 5: to get started. What would you say, are I don't

657
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Speaker 5: know the next steps or maybe some best practices on

658
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Speaker 5: creating their own ritual for healing and wellness?

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, celebrate yourself with that you right now celebrate

660
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: yourself for that being you. Okay, it's takes a minute

661
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Speaker 2: to be ready, right Tony K Bombara and result in

662
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: the book Salt Eater starts out, you know, are you

663
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Speaker 2: sure you heart?

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Speaker 5: But you're ready to be well? Can we? You know

665
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Speaker 5: it take a lot to get there.

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Speaker 2: So I think honoring and celebrating and having a whole

667
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Speaker 2: situation a ritual off being ready, being ready to be well,

668
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: even if you don't know the way, just hello, just

669
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Speaker 2: to celebrate being there and then you know, depending on

670
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: who you are, I think you can probably imagine some

671
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: people who you see being whole having wellness in certain aspects,

672
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Speaker 2: whether it's you know, you appreciate how basing physically well,

673
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: you appreciate, you know, how they are in relationship that

674
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: you can just start to attack in and see what

675
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: it's helping other folks to get there. I invite people

676
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: to remember, right like, we have this knowing and we've

677
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: tried before, probably to get towards wellness, and maybe we

678
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: stopped certain things, but there were likely pathways that served

679
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: us before that we've put aside or forgot about, or

680
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: have it slowed down enough to come back to. So

681
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: I would invite that reflection and like, you know, did

682
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Speaker 2: this thing work before? Could it possibly be useful here?

683
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Speaker 8: Now?

684
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Speaker 2: Does that totally have to go? Because that was some

685
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: crap someone else taught me and made me do. That

686
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: was just really not for me. But like doing that

687
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: sort of assessment to see what's there, you know, talking

688
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: about academia for folks, for black folks who are in academia,

689
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, definitely hit me up at the

690
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Speaker 2: Wells Healing Center. We've offered a lot of free spaces

691
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Speaker 2: for black LID students, for trans brad student and and

692
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Speaker 2: really just had to be a resource and networking point

693
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Speaker 2: for folks.

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Speaker 5: Outside of Wells.

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Speaker 2: There are some you know lists, I think, you know,

696
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Speaker 2: traditional therapy could be a pathway. I also think there's

697
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Speaker 2: a lot of really doubt like energy healers and folks

698
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: who are doing traumatic work and things like that that

699
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Speaker 2: could be a really cool place to start to feel into.

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Speaker 5: Right, you're just building your map again.

701
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Speaker 2: I would invite folks to check out that Blusfem healing

702
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: article because I'm trying to make it make this journey

703
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: towards building your own healing recipe, healing potion for the

704
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: moment really accessible, really easy, and so I lay out

705
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: these different chambers of our wellness and then I give

706
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: you a bunch of query, some questions to think about,

707
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, whether you're experiencing wellness in that area and

708
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Speaker 2: how you might get closer to it.

709
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Speaker 5: And so it's really like the blueprint, really straightforward.

710
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Speaker 2: So that's through Bliss on Instagram at bluffem Healing and

711
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: you can get a lot of tools and resources that

712
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: might spark some ideas or the packeray that.

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Speaker 5: You might want to take next. And Tella, could you

714
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Speaker 5: just spell that fir us because I want to make

715
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Speaker 5: sure we can put that in the show notes for

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Speaker 5: folks as well. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's b l A f E M M E healing

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Speaker 2: h E A l I n g atuf I'm healing.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, buff is a player, I'm black femeral zone.

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Speaker 5: I love that. Perfect. We're going to make sure to

721
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Speaker 5: add that in the show notes. Thank you so much

722
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Speaker 5: for sure.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I appreciate what you what you said

724
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Speaker 6: about creating like your own healing potion, right, and I

725
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 6: think it's important for folks to hear that and recognize

726
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 6: that there are multiple ways in which we can focus

727
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Speaker 6: on our healing and that it's coming from someone who

728
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Speaker 6: was trained in Western psychology, right. But I think about

729
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 6: going through graduates fool, and the ways in which we

730
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Speaker 6: were taught to do therapy and the ways in which

731
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Speaker 6: as for me, as I reflect on reactions that I

732
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Speaker 6: had to certain things that were set in class or

733
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Speaker 6: techniques that we were.

734
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Speaker 5: Taught that just didn't sit right.

735
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Speaker 6: And from what we're taught in class to our licensing exams,

736
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Speaker 6: the things that aren't culturally competent and culturally responsive for

737
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Speaker 6: black folks, for folks of the global majority, and so

738
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Speaker 6: for our listeners out there who are like, because I

739
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Speaker 6: say all the time, yes, get therapy, right, and I

740
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Speaker 6: recognize that not every therapist is culturally responsive.

741
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Speaker 5: For our folks who were.

742
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Speaker 6: Listening and considering therapy, what would be your suggestions on

743
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 6: some things that they can look for in a culturally

744
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Speaker 6: responsive therapist.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for making else points start to die. Yeah. Oh,

746
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 5: it's it's so deep. It's like, if folks are.

747
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Speaker 2: Training to be you know, mental health practitioneries, social work

748
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: as counselors, whatever, I haven't found some additional support, some

749
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Speaker 2: additional training, some additional like mentoring if they're working in

750
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Speaker 2: black or Brown communities.

751
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Speaker 5: I don't please stay away.

752
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Speaker 2: From my people, right, because the training programs are ill equipped,

753
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: very ill equipped generally speaking to the service, and so

754
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: like I've yeah, i got all these degrees, all these hours,

755
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: but I'm still constantly in training. I'm still sitting at

756
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: the feet of so many elders and mentors and learned

757
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: different healing pathways and modality and so yeah, it's so

758
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: so so critical, and so as folks are searching, I

759
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: think you know, getting on that fifteen minute, thirty minute

760
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: discovery call that you might have with the potential healing,

761
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Speaker 2: Please have your questions ready, Please be that have the

762
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: questions that you ask that are important to you about

763
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: how folks see the world or makes sense of the world,

764
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: how what they see.

765
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: As healing or wellness.

766
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: What values they hold, and how they live them out

767
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: both in and outside of the therapy realm. Are some

768
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: of the questions that I might be holding. But also

769
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: the questions that they're not asking but that they're tracking.

770
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Speaker 2: Is like, you know, to what extent do you feel

771
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Speaker 2: like this person is trusting of you?

772
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Speaker 5: Right, because a.

773
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Speaker 2: Lot of it there's so much inherent lack of trust

774
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Speaker 2: of Brown folks that that.

775
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Speaker 5: Out the gate. You can get that sense and trust

776
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Speaker 5: that sense.

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00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: Trust that said okay that the you know, are folks

778
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: talking over you?

779
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: Are folks respecting what you're saying is this is this

780
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: space made? Is their swollow up?

781
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Is there a formula that's being followed that doesn't feel

782
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: like it's aligning with you? Are you having the space

783
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: to ask your questions and getting feeling like you are

784
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: retaining your autonomy versus spaking with someone who is claiming control,

785
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: ownership and performing expert over you, Like those are things

786
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: that I would be watching out for and assessing in

787
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: the background and having that inform my decisions.

788
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Speaker 5: And I want to see receipts. I want to see

789
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Speaker 5: this is not role.

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Speaker 2: We're working with folks who are you know, new, We're

791
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: in their journey and that's but it's important to know

792
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: whatever their receive startup to that point.

793
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: What is your lineage?

794
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Speaker 2: Right in the in the book Healing Justice lineages, the

795
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 2: authors really talk a lot about and then healing justice

796
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: as a practice overall, there's a lot of conversation about

797
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: you know, being transparent, about that, about that pathway that

798
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: you've taken in order to become a healer and what

799
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: that means for you and who you're accountable to. And

800
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Speaker 2: those are some of the things that I would want

801
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: our folks to be holding in miners they're seeking out

802
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: any type of healing or healing work, Yes, yes, and

803
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: yes a men like all the things. That is so

804
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: powerful because all of what you just provided, like that

805
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: is such a great vetting tool because like you said,

806
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Speaker 2: you if.

807
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Speaker 4: Your gut is like they right here, then listen to that.

808
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: So thank you so much for empowering and equipping our

809
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: listeners with that. And iould love to know Dela, because

810
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Speaker 4: I think about the work that you're doing and what

811
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: we've learned about you today, and I just know that

812
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: you are making such an impact on the community and

813
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Speaker 4: on the world. Can you tell us about a time

814
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Speaker 4: when you realize just how impactful your work is, Like,

815
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Speaker 4: is there a moment, a story, or something you could

816
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Speaker 4: tell us to kind of drive that home.

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Speaker 5: You're very genderous. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, the

818
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Speaker 5: most recent on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, two quickies, Yeah, they kind of go together. It's

820
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Speaker 2: from the same this group I've been moving with in

821
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Speaker 2: a healing space for the last year and a half,

822
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Speaker 2: and one of one of the people in the group

823
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: just transitioned out. They're gradulating, they got their PhD. And

824
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Speaker 2: when they signed onto the group or joined on to

825
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: the group, they were like really skeptical.

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Speaker 8: They were like, first of all, what is black feminist

827
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Speaker 8: sound like, I don't know about all this because things

828
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Speaker 8: very like they're in the hard sciences and they're they

829
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Speaker 8: just had their family upbringing is like a very kind

830
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Speaker 8: of you know.

831
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Speaker 2: Check and jail sort of the black excellence that I

832
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: was talking about, So a lot of you know, uplifting

833
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: of whiteness and white supremacy culture and the things that

834
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Speaker 2: help you to succeed in that, and we're undoing all

835
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: of that in all of mighty stations. Until we did

836
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Speaker 2: that for the last year and a half. And as

837
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Speaker 2: they graduated, they I just like that to watch them

838
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: transform and they gave these beautiful reflections on oh, how

839
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Speaker 2: they are in like this was one of the first

840
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Speaker 2: times in spaces that they really understood a blackness and

841
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: are in a way that felt real and true to them,

842
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Speaker 2: and that they had black community that was authentic around

843
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: like cool and how we show up versus some sort

844
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: of striving outside of ourselves, and that felt like the

845
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: win and they're now bands of black feminism too, So yes, y,

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Speaker 2: I think that's say especially we're sort of closing out

847
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Speaker 2: as this other person is staying on and it's still

848
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Speaker 2: in the space.

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Speaker 5: But you know, they were talking about how.

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Speaker 2: I have revolutionized them and others animal group, but not

851
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: in the way there's so much going on right now

852
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: that it should be revolutionizing and radicalizing and catalyzing folks

853
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: towards for its self and collective care in very serious ways.

854
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Speaker 2: But instead of it being you know, focused on how

855
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Speaker 2: genocide and palestiners catalyzing people towards action, how I catalyzed

856
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Speaker 2: folks to love and the practice of suck club And

857
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Speaker 2: I was like.

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Speaker 5: What, baby, are you really giving me?

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Speaker 8: That?

860
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Speaker 5: Are you laying those flowers on me? And it's those

861
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Speaker 5: those one you know, those one on one individual experiences

862
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 5: of how folks are feeling. Just did they really stay

863
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Speaker 5: with me? And meaning, well, oh so beautiful, so beautiful.

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Speaker 6: So one of the things that you mentioned in that

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Speaker 6: that you the impact that you have on folks is

866
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Speaker 6: about operating from what Bell Hooks calls a love ethic, right,

867
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Speaker 6: And I know that you talk about that often, and

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Speaker 6: so can you share with our audience, like, what is

869
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Speaker 6: that space of love that Bell Hooks often talks about

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Speaker 6: that kind of guides you in all the work that

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Speaker 6: you do.

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Speaker 5: And so it's been such a bad question, y'all please

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Speaker 5: go read all about leve I think I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The core piece, sister, I think stand out right now

875
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Speaker 2: is like it's really totally reorienting yourself around the relationship,

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Speaker 2: like really about being in relationship, being with hoaxed, like

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Speaker 2: knowing them deeply and then from that place of knowing

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Speaker 2: being able to provide care, to be caring towards them,

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Speaker 2: to agree to continue to show up in relationship with them,

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Speaker 2: and that means moving through and naming conflict and finding

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Speaker 2: your way through that process together. I love the love

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Speaker 2: ethic framework because it's just so so straightforward.

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Speaker 5: It's so straightforward.

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Speaker 2: It's like, like, what is going to be required so

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Speaker 2: there to be trust here, right, what is going to

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Speaker 2: be required for there to be a responsibility between us

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Speaker 2: that can be honored and where that responsibility shows up

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Speaker 2: and it makes me feel like I'm being cares for

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Speaker 2: and we're able to move together and feel like we're growing.

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Speaker 2: And so I think the love ethic is like the

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Speaker 2: guide or the framework, something to keep coming back to,

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Speaker 2: knowing that we're going we're going to fall off. But

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Speaker 2: this is like the sort of handrails on the escalator

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Speaker 2: that as we're moving forward and just in constant motion

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Speaker 2: and movement, this is the sturdy thing that we can

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Speaker 2: hold on to. And it's like, I'm gonna keep turning

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Speaker 2: towards you. I'm gonna keep torn in towards you and

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Speaker 2: checking in like is something getting in the way of

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Speaker 2: these sort of core factors. And it's it's like, if

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Speaker 2: you have that, then any of the questions, any of

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Speaker 2: the harms of the day or of the world that

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Speaker 2: continue to repeat, we can no matter how complex, no

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Speaker 2: matter how novel they are, no matter how simple they are,

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Speaker 2: and we have something that we can keep like rooting

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Speaker 2: into and that'll keep us together and that'll allow us

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Speaker 2: to have our wholeness as an individual and for us

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Speaker 2: to have some kind of world that's worth living in.

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Speaker 5: You know, got out to Bill Hook out to where

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Speaker 5: would we be without like.

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Speaker 2: That accessible writing that like you talk, you know, talking

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Speaker 2: about speaking from the gut, just like the truth is

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Speaker 2: just there right and papping into those with some looking

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Speaker 2: can help us to be more well, beautifully staying it,

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Speaker 2: beautifully stated, and I guess we just have us Like

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Speaker 2: I guess we'd call this the wrap up question. I don't,

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Speaker 2: And that's like, what lasting impact do you hope to

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Speaker 2: leave with your family, friends and the community.

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Speaker 5: I want focused to be.

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Speaker 2: I want my impact to be one where reported folks

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Speaker 2: in their movement towards owning their role in their own healing, right,

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Speaker 2: like taking on that role, owning it, holding it in

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Speaker 2: like such high regard, being rigorous about your healing. I

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Speaker 2: want that to be my legacy, like getting it back

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Speaker 2: to us and having us be serious about it, being

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Speaker 2: a practice with it.

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Speaker 5: That's enough. That would be everything. If if I could

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Speaker 5: be known for that, that would be fire my job.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely agreed Handsdale, Like, yes, Dela, this was so enlightening,

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Speaker 4: so encouraging, so soothing. Your voice also just so soothing

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Speaker 4: and relaxing. I feel like I can imagine our listeners

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Speaker 4: like being in the bathtub.

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Speaker 5: We're like having a glass line on the couch, just like.

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Speaker 6: My girlfriends meditation. Like your voice is definitely a soothing bomb. Yes,

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Speaker 6: thank you so much, and it's been so delightful to

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Speaker 6: be with you.

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Speaker 2: Stopful questions like cultive, y'all are really cultivating fake and

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Speaker 2: have been thorough with it for so long. It's an

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Speaker 2: honor to be in conversation and community with you and

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Speaker 2: you Youngerstoners.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: And if you can just tell listeners Della what where

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Speaker 4: they can find you what you are offering right now

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Speaker 4: because we know you have you to plugli that was

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Speaker 4: the plug.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's the plug, y'all, so you all the things.

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Speaker 5: Let them know? Please how can they tap in? Well?

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Speaker 5: Thank you? Please follow me.

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Speaker 2: I'm really my creative I'm in my creative space since

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Speaker 2: leaving academ and I love just playing and creating and

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Speaker 2: so as I'm playing with new things, it's usually first

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Speaker 2: O s l e Y dB Moseley And you know

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Speaker 2: you can find me at the Wells Healing Center at

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Speaker 2: Wells Healing or my my dream space. Come play with

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Speaker 2: me at buff Come get someone as black femin it's healing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've got I'm leading a group of ten black women,

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Speaker 2: through black women and non binary folks through some healing

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Speaker 2: practices for four months and I'm building the weight.

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Speaker 5: Listen now for the next one.

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Speaker 2: So it's been it's where I'm teaching the Buffe Healing

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Speaker 2: model and coaching being folks liberation coach to help them

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Speaker 2: get more wellness.

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Speaker 5: So that's through Buffe Healing Bert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's that's all I'll share for now. Amazing.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Delli. We appreciate you and we

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Speaker 5: would love to keep in touch. I look forward to it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all so much.

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