1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure Aaron nobody else is 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: getting fired right like this is like we are finally done, 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: whether it be in college football or the National Football League, 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Like we're done now, We're done at nine at least 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't planning on opening the show like this, 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: but I did have this thought. Today Bills get blown 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: out in Denver. 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: I I know, I I know it could be ten. 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: I could know because I was seriously thinking about it 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: because I have been on If the Bills do not 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: make the Super Bowl, as Josh Allen's prime is winding down, 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: do you make the move? The problem is, do you 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: have to now hold on to Sean McDermott for one 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: year longer because all of the good candidates may be 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: gone by the time you're eliminated, even as early as 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: this coming Saturday. 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: I think the teams that have really good situations have 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: no problem if they need to move on from the 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: head coach because they think they can get the top candidates. 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: We shall see facing a peak season looking for a 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: new team member. Workforce solutions from Express Employment Professionals make 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: hiring easier. Visit expresspros dot com to find an office 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: and see how Express can help you hire smarter and faster. 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: It's not who is available, meaning the candidates. It's not 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: what jobs are available, meaning the teams. It's the number 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: that is shocking to me, because I feel aarin that 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, we're heading into week eighteen. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: We knew the Giants job was open in the NFL. 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: We knew the Titans job was open in the National 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Football League. We knew those jobs were going to be filled. 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: We then assumed that there were rumblings maybe the Falcons 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: would make a move. The Falcons turned things on at 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: the end of the year, and all of our shouldn't 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: say all most of our NFL insiders that we talked 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: to and bring on say about a handful of openings. 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say handful, four to six. Let's give leeway. 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Three to seven is not a handful. Let's just say 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: four to six. And after the first twenty four hour 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: cycle that we had, we had six. Arizona got rid 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: of Gannon, Pete Carroll was out with the Raiders. I 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: mentioned Raheem Morris, Kevin Stefanski was done with the Browns, 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: and then a few days later it's John Harbaugh, and 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: then it's Mike McDaniel, and now it's Mike Tomlin stepping aside. 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: So we've got nine openings, the words of Ed Rooney, 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: nine nine openings in the National Football League. And again, 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: what is shocking to me, Aaron, is that now more 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: than a quarter of the league feels that their leadership 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: isn't good enough and they need to make a change. 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: And I am trying to put my finger on why 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: that is. 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: So thinking about this and thinking about the raw numbers 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: and all the people that are getting interviews, I will 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: say it does feel like a little bit of an 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: outline year, not just because of the sheer number, but 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: because of how some of these jobs opened right Like 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: the Ravens. It just clearly just came to it like 61 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: it every I don't know about everybody, but the people 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: that mattered agreed that it was time for a change. 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: And I thought it was noteworthy. 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: The owner and his press conference yesterday noted they said 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: to him, they said, if you if the if the 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: kick goes through, you beat Pittsburgh to win the divisions. 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh still the head coach, he said, for one 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: more week, and then the insinuation was I was ready 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: to move on after this year. So you have that situation, 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: you have the Miami situation, which we can't quite put 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: the pieces together of. Mike McDaniel fired a day after, 72 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: you know, John Harbaugh becomes available. So so was that 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: a thing that you know, they who knows there? And 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: then of course with Pittsburgh, how much of it was 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh thing, But ultimately it was a Mike Tomlin thing, 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin deciding that he had had enough of that job. 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: So I just bring it up because it's crazy. The number. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: It's crazy, the jobs available. It's crazy some of the 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: people that are going to get head coaching jobs. I 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: hate to open the show with a little bit of 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: a wet blanket, but I feel like this is an 82 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: outlier year in how these jobs open, not just in 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: the number of jobs that are available. 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: I thought that on the surface as well. On the surface, 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: my immediate gut reaction is this is a one off. 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: It's just doesn't happen that much. And then when we 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: start the show and I say that there are nine 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: openings and you leave the door open that there could 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: be one more. Maybe the Bills would make a move 90 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: with Sean McDermott, and I consider that as well. The 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: reason I considered it Aaron because I thought the Packers 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: could make a move with Matt Lafleur. They haven't and 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like they're going to. In fact, they're 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: going to commit to him, we think with a newer contract. 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Now that hasn't been finalized, but by all accounts from 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: the insider reports it's Green Bay's intention of keeping Matt Lafleur. 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: That could change. But still, well, the point is is 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: that he was a possibility of not returning. And so 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: then I thought to myself, well, if there are nine, 100 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: possibly ten, maybe even eleven openings like we're getting, we're 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: getting up there, what is next year going to look like? 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: And this is what stood out to me was next 103 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 2: year could be just as bad. Maybe it won't be nine. 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: But if you think that this is a one off, 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: you're wrong. And the reason I say that is because 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Gunn is on the hot seat. If the Colts 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: stink again next season, I think there's a reason for 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: Shane Steichen to be out in Indianapolis if the Bengals 109 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: continue to Bengal Zach Taylor's been on the hot seat 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: for a while, Andy Reid. There is no guarantee how 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: long he's going to continue to coach. And we think 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs will be bad next year too. Yes, so 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: you've got Patrick Mahomes coming back from his injury, and 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: who knows what his health situation is going to be. 115 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Maybe he needs a fresh start. I just mentioned Matt 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Lafleur if he stays yep, maybe if things go bad 117 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: for Green Band next year, maybe they regret whatever contract 118 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: situation they have with him and make a change. The 119 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: point is is, I'm adding names. Dan Quinn in Washington, 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: like you've moved on from Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator. 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: If Jayden Daniels doesn't get things done and the defense 122 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: isn't good next year, Washington, you could say like, all right, 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna move on from dan Quinn. These are all possibilities. 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: We thought Todd Bowles could maybe lose his job in Tampa, 125 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: So I'm just naming names of situations that could possibly 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: come up. So, by the way, it's Sirianni absolutely Dave Canalis. 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Let's say Bryce Young takes a step back. Now Carolina, 128 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: even though they're in, you know, win the division at 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: eight to nine, if they don't show progress, you can 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: make a re have a reason to move on from 131 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: that job. Not saying all these things are going to happen, 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: but the point is is there could be seven or 133 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: eight openings next year, so that in a two year 134 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: gap or two year span, you're saying more than half 135 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: of the coaches in the National Football League will be 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: recycled through. That has never happened. It had been about 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: four or five and now in a time where we 138 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: don't even know if we have any good candidates. And 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: the reason I think that this is happening, the one 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: reason that I think is for whatever reason, I think 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: teams think it's now easy to get to conference championship games, 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: that it's easy to do a quick turnaround, say look 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: at what we've got here. And I think like Mike 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Rabel and the Patriots maybe are an example of that 145 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: of you get the right guy in there, the culture 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: can change. Things can change quickly. If you have your quarterback, 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: other guys gel together, Boom, you're back atop the AFC 148 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: So it's the turnaround of the Patriots after one awful 149 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: year with Gerrod Mayo and a couple of bad years 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick, of why a turnaround could happen. We 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: just got to find the right guy. And we know 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: right now that you aren't the right guy. So you're 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: on your way out and we're going to go and 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: look for that right guy. And that's why I think 155 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: right now, and when I say easy, I think you 156 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: understand what I mean. They're seeing a turnaround and a 157 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: quick turnaround to have success in every team in the 158 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: NFL that is making moves of their head coaches want 159 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: to get to that spot. And I feel that they 160 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: almost think it's an easy fix that just take out 161 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: the head guy, let's put someone new in, and let's 162 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: make the run. And I just I don't think it's 163 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: that simple, and that's why I think like NFL owners 164 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: are misguided in that thinking. 165 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: By the way, a funner way to look at it is, 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: you know, and we don't have to do this on air, 167 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, how many coaches outside of the 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: nine jobs that are currently open, so that would leave 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: twenty three jobs? 170 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: Is that right? Twenty three? 171 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: Like? 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: How many guys could just have a train wreck of 173 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: a year lat next year and just be one hundred 174 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: percent safe. It's like Kyle Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Sean McVay, 175 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: that's basically it. Yeah, like McDonald yeaheah, there's a few, 176 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: but there are very not many. 177 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, not many outside of that five or six that 178 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: are completely one hundred percent safe. 179 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: And so to your point, I do think there is 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: something there to the notion. And the ironic part, by 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: the way, is it's you could actually argue that, especially 182 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: up until this year when Mahomes got hurt, it was 183 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: actually harder to make the conference championship game than it's 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: ever been, where basically the AFC has come down to 185 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: basically three teams the last couple of years that only 186 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: had a realistic shot of making it. 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: But no, I think it's a number of different variables. 188 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: Is I do think there is a notion, especially in 189 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: the NFL, of why do we have to be terrible 190 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: year over year? I mean, I think even the point 191 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: about Aaron Glenn of like the conversation of do you 192 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: bring him back? He's a defensive coach, he's a former 193 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: defensive back. We can't force an interception the entire year. 194 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: I just bring it up because it just feels like 195 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: one of those situations of like, even though he's back, 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: you can talk yourself into, you know what, maybe this 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: isn't the answer and maybe we need to move on. 198 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll being one and done, Girodmeo being done one 199 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: and done a year ago. I do think there is 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: something interesting here about the shelf life being able to 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: kind of build it the way you want to build it. 202 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: And does a two three year build really exist anymore 203 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: or do you have to have success right away? I 204 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: know it's something that's a little bit of a cliche 205 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: talking point right now, but we're seeing it in the 206 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: college space as well of because of Nio in the 207 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: portal boom, you can build the thing quick. You don't 208 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: get four or five years anymore. And it does feel 209 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: like increasingly in the NFL we are headed that direction 210 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: of Hey, Pete Carroll, you know you brought in your quarterback, 211 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: the team got worse time to go, and you can 212 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: again use a bunch of examples just like that. 213 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, do you see any correlation to the college 214 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: game or the pro game or why there's so many vacancies. 215 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: To me, guys, it's like the cliche when you're reading 216 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: your procedural novel or watching the show when they say 217 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: follow the money. I think it a holds back to this. 218 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: You hear about how much money Goodell has made for 219 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 5: the owners in recent years, and then you see this, 220 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: like to me, a watershed moment. A couple of years back, 221 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos paid Nathaniel Hackett to go away. They 222 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 5: traded assets and gave Sean Payton a ton of money 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: to come. Soon after that, they paid Russell Wilson a 224 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: ton of money to go away. I think the owners 225 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: have had such a flood of revenue and they are 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: dealing with so much capital now that I think these 227 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: decisions are just much more easy to make. Example, Mark Davis, 228 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: the Raiders are supposed to be the mom and pop 229 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: shop of the NFL. Mark Davis is a poor They're 230 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 5: paying I think four coaches right now on their payroll. 231 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is money everywhere, and if you take the 232 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: flip side of that, you're talking about the poorest one. 233 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: It means the more the ones who are the wealthiest, 234 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: excuse me, think even less. Like you know, they're billionaires, 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: they're different. They're not like the Rooneys, They're not like 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: the Davis family. They are it's it doesn't even doesn't 237 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: even register, leading to the Broncos and the the Walmart connection, 238 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: and just of of all of the enormous assets that 239 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: you have that it doesn't even You don't even blink 240 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: an eye to pay to move on from what you have. 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: Let me ask a follow up on that point though, 242 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: is part of why people are doing it, not just 243 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: the money, but because the Broncos had success doing it 244 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: number one seed in the AFC. But then the counter 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: to that is there was also a Super Bowl winning 246 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: head coach that was available that clearly wanted to get 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: back in. So I'd be curious for your guys perspectives, liked, 248 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: does do the Broncos having immediate success? This guy comes 249 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: in completely changes the culture, gets rid of the old 250 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: quarterback that isn't good anymore, and now has the number 251 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: one seed in the AFC. Do you think other people 252 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: are looking at that saying why can't that be us? 253 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: And maybe that's to your original point. I think they 254 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: looked more at New England. Sure, I think they look 255 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: at New England and being like, oh you get Vrabel 256 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: and you get a young quarterback. Look at how that 257 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: turns around, like immediately, and if we could just you know, 258 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: land that or if it's even a Sean McVay sort 259 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: of deal, even after all these years, a decade later, 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: he's he's not one of the longest tenured head coaches 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: in the National Football League with arbon Tomlin gone. But 262 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: I think that you're still trying to find your next 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: Sean McVay in somebody that could be there and turn 264 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 3: it around. And you're taking risks on guys that also 265 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: may not even be qualified for the position in the 266 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 3: first place, so then you have to move on from 267 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: them after a shorter period of time. I think this 268 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: cycle has had longer guys. A guy stay longer. 269 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: But if you're the Browns, if you're the Ravens, and 270 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: you're the Steelers, and again I think Tomlin stepped out. 271 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers were gonna fire Tomlin. But 272 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: you see to a point that Iowa Sam has been 273 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: making throughout this season, Why are the New England Patriots 274 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: great again? Like I think that's what some of these 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: teams are thinking. How does New England all of a 276 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: sudden just turn it around almost at a drop of 277 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: a hat, and I think that they want to experience 278 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: that same thing and feel if they get the right combination. Honestly, 279 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: Jacksonville struck gold with Liam Cohen, right, I mean, so 280 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: if you're Jacksonville, like, yeah, okay, look it works. We 281 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: moved on. 282 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: But the key points there, the quarterback at least that 283 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: we think is already in place, right, And so I 284 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: think it's an interesting conversation of you know, even driving in, 285 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: You're hearing different people say, you know, Marcus Freeman, he's 286 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: got to consider Pittsburgh, And I'm like, why why does 287 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: he have to consider Pittsburgh? Like, I it's cool what 288 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: they did in nineteen seventy eight with Chuck Nole and 289 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw, But like, the only selling point of the 290 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: Steelers right now is two is history and one they 291 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: won't fire you if you're good right away. And I'm 292 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: just sitting there saying, like, if you're Marcus Freeman and 293 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: you want to go to the NFL again, to your point, 294 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: Andy Reid's not to be around forever, Sean McDermott, what 295 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: happens to that there are better opportunities? And I think 296 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: that's An interesting parallel in this as well is that 297 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: I think the actual legitimate coaching candidates that people actually 298 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: want can be rather selective in making sure like Mike 299 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: Rabil a perfect example last year, Ben Johnson a perfect 300 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: example last year of is the situation right for me? 301 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: Is it the right ownership specifically the right quarterback? And frankly, 302 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't know how many of these jobs that are 303 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: currently open outside of Baltimore really have that setup. 304 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: And then they guys will get hired, they don't win. 305 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: Guess what they're doing this two three years down the 306 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: line again, right. 307 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: McDaniel, I thought, last time I spoke with you, I 308 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: think it was last time I spoke with you, he 309 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: had just gone fired. It was like a done deal. 310 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: Oh he's going to be the Lions offensive coordinator. Now, 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: this guy's interviewing for every job under the sun. 312 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: So let me just wrap up with this because I'm 313 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: curious on Jason your thought I'm curious on samon Isaac's thoughts. Quickly, 314 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: you mentioned the Steelers job. So the last time it 315 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: was opened was nineteen seasons ago. I feel like the 316 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: world has changed. I feel like that generation, if you 317 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: were to tell go back to when they hired Mike 318 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: Tomlin that said, hey man, you gotta have this job 319 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: for twenty years. My generation says, sign me up. Do 320 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: you think taking the Steelers job to Aaron's point of 321 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: right now, the cupboard's kind of bear But knowing that 322 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: this family likely won't fire you for the next fifteen years, 323 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: is that even appealing? Is that appealing to this generation 324 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: of coaches where we're seeing thirty year olds and taking 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: over as taking over as coordinators and a defensive coordinators 326 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: offensive coordinators? Is that appealing to someone to be like, 327 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: you know what, I always stink now, but they're gonna 328 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: give me as much time in the world. And do 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: I really want to stay at one job for fifteen years? 330 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: So let me just jump in real quick because I 331 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: want to hear the other guy's perspective as well. I 332 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: was thinking about this as well. Is all of these 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: guys are hyper competitive people. I don't know that, Hey, 334 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: you can stink for six years and you won't get 335 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: fired is a selling point to a hyper competitive person. Again, 336 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: I'll just use Marcus Freeman as the example. He will 337 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: have a team good enough to win at the highest level, 338 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: at the level that he is at So if Marcus 339 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: Freeman wants to leave Notre Dame, he doesn't want to 340 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: go somewhere. In my opinion, maybe he's hired as the 341 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: Steelers coach by the end of this show. 342 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. 343 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: My assumption would be if he's going to leave for 344 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 3: the NFL and he's leaving a place where he can 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: already win at the highest level, he wants to go 346 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: somewhere where he can win immediately. Why does Marcus Freeman 347 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: want to go rebuild for five years? 348 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: You know? 349 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: And so again, if the Ravens called, maybe he would 350 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: have to consider it. But if you're a hyper competitive 351 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: person that already has a good job, I actually don't 352 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: think it's appealing to be like, oh, you'll get eight. 353 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: You could lose for eight straight years, Mike Tomlins. You 354 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: know he's been eight You know, he hasn't won a 355 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: playoff game in ten years. They would have fired him. 356 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a fun existence to me. So 357 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: that's my personal opinion, But I like others as well. 358 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Jason sam Isaac Ewitt, Sam, I blame Kurt Signetti for all. 359 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 6: Of this. 360 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: Guy, all right, because he never loses. 361 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I mean he just comes in he 362 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: turns Indiana from zero to hero. I mean, you see Michigan, 363 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 7: Ohio State and then Indiana as maybe the next national champion. 364 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 7: I mean Kurt Signetti has just changed the timeline completely 365 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 7: for college ampros. 366 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: To answer your question, Dan, I think I think this 367 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: generation so gen Z is coaching or Millennials are coaching. 368 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 5: I think they they're not. They're not drawn to stability. 369 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: We've seen that in the actual average workplace. People are 370 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 5: moving jobs all the time in that generation. But I 371 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: cringe to think that the Steelers are going to still 372 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: operate under that business plan. Sure, I hope that they 373 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 5: switch with the times and just go through like three 374 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 5: or four coaches in the next fifteen years. 375 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: They haven't shown us, you know, anything different. We will. 376 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 8: We will never see anything in sports again the likes 377 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 8: of what the Steelers have had with the stability over 378 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 8: their last three head coach, which is including with the Steelers. 379 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 8: And I'll put this into perspective, and Sam, you make 380 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 8: a great point about Kurt Signetti, but I think this 381 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 8: philosophy predated Signetti. John Wooden didn't win his first national 382 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 8: championship until his sixteenth season at UCLA. If you have 383 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 8: the same John Wooden today, he'd be gone after year five. 384 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 8: The coaching world, in the sports world has completely changed. 385 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, Peter Vine, four years later, it has touched for 386 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 9: four hundred people yet, and I think it's changed over 387 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 9: the last twenty years. And to your point, I don't 388 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 9: think that. I don't think that staying in one spot 389 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 9: for an extended period of time is maybe a top 390 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 9: of the priority list, Sam, And. 391 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 7: I think in college football, maybe there's something about wearing 392 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 7: black and yellow Steelers jerseys that looks similar. In college 393 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 7: you're just not going to see a lot of Kirk 394 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 7: Ference's anymore. I mean, the guy's probably going to spend 395 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 7: thirty years at Iowa. You're just not going to see that. 396 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 7: It's just not going to happen. And he could have 397 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 7: left the program or been dismissed a number of times 398 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 7: over the years when he's still there. 399 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you wouldn't be twenty twenty five Orlioquest 400 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: Bowl championsh right hey, formerly known as the Outback Bowl. 401 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: All right, that diego Pavia. 402 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 403 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 404 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 405 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: Truer words were never spoken. He's eron Torres, I'm Dan 406 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: Byer Iowa, Sam, Jason Stewart, Isaac Lowingcron hanging out. Isaac's 407 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: gonna be with us in about ten minutes or so 408 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: to give us an update of what's happening on this Wednesday. 409 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: A big happening when it comes to the NFL Draft 410 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: in college football, But we switch our attention to the 411 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: NBA joining us now, good buddy, our Fox Sports Radio 412 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: NBA insider Mark Medina joins us here on Fox Sports 413 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: Radio for the first time in twenty twenty six. Mark, 414 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Happy New Year. 415 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: How are you Happy New Year? 416 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 8: Dan? 417 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: We'll break the Larry David rule. All good? Uh and 418 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 4: happy for you. You're killing all the shows. 419 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: Oh well, I appreciate that. Aaron and I are having 420 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: a good time. And yeah we're two weeks in. But 421 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: it's the first time I've spoke with Mark. Question everyone 422 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: wants to know, are you in on crypto or was 423 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: your ex hacked? That's what people want to know. 424 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: What's the it has been the ladder. I did not 425 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: cash out of some crazy investment or bought some amazing car. 426 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, for anyone else who can help me out. 427 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get the sword out so I 428 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: can tweet about basketball and not fake posts. 429 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: I thought that was quite the quite the flex, you know, 430 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: first and escalade and then a look at your financial portfolio. 431 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: But it was very unmandina like considering all the NBA 432 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: posts that were made. 433 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: Mark Mann. That's why a strong instinct. 434 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: No, well, let's let's talk about what happened last night 435 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: in the Association, because Oklahoma City finally got the monkey 436 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: off their back, if you will, in beating the San 437 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs. Wasn't just another game? Was it more for 438 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City last night? What were your thoughts on the 439 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: thunder win? 440 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: No, not just another game. I think that this is 441 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: It's not going to be like her Seldon, but I 442 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 4: think that this is the next rivalry in the NBA. 443 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: You can tell that both teams don't like each other, 444 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: especially the Victor Wembanyama chet Hongering dynamic. But what does 445 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: it mean for the NBA playoffs? That is where I'm 446 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: on shore, because even though the Spurs, with the exception 447 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: last night, have had their number in head to head matchups, 448 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: I still favored a Thunder in a playoff series. Barring 449 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: major injuries. Just because of the old adage of they've 450 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: been there before, the continuity, there's not much of any 451 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: hangover from the championship last season. But the Spurs have 452 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: shown they're the real deal. Not only are they making 453 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: the playoffs. It's not just oh, they're a young team 454 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 4: on the rise. They are here. It's Victor Wembanyama. They 455 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: got the Spurs culture. They got this great dynamic backcourt, 456 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: and the Aaron Fox and Stefan Castle and so and 457 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: then they know how to coexist pretty well. So they 458 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: are well a machine. But if if I had to 459 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: predict seven games series, it would go to the thunder Butt. 460 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: That's why it's going to be compelling to semi they 461 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: match up. 462 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: So, Mark, I don't know if you were you know, 463 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: been around the Lakers. I know you are always around 464 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: the Lakers, I should say. So this story about Lebron 465 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: having to address something that Rich Paul said, I'll just 466 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: be honest. So I'm sure you have a relationship with 467 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Rich Paul. I'm not trying to back you into a corner. 468 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: I don't really understand what the upside to Rich Paul 469 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: having a podcast is all he's gonna do is make 470 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: people mad or not say anything. It doesn't help his clients, 471 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 3: It doesn't help him. I don't know if you have 472 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: anything to really add to that situation, but it feels 473 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: weird that Lebron now has to address things that his 474 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: agent is saying publicly on a podcast. 475 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a fair question and there and I'm 476 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: not backed into a corner. I have relationships in the NBA, 477 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: but I have a job to do. And I don't 478 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: think that, even with the caveat, that every adult has 479 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: the right to pursue whatever business venture through the NBA Lane. 480 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that this is a good look for 481 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: rich because perceived or real or a mix of both, 482 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: what he says is always going to be looked at. 483 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: This is a reflection of what Lebron James wants, even 484 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 4: though Lebron was very clear in the interview with ESPN 485 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: that that's not what he thinks. I think the other 486 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: thing is just it reeks of being Monday morning quarterback 487 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 4: and trying to be very influential on what teams should do. 488 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: And this isn't you know, someone like you and me 489 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: talking about what teams should do. We don't have any 490 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: roll or direct stake. This is an agent that can 491 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: have some sort of leverage. So yeah, it doesn't sit 492 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: well with people in the Lakers organization, and certainly shouldn't 493 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: sit well with you know, Austin Reeves's agent or anyone 494 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: else because you're just thinking the quiet parts out loud. 495 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost the equivalent of when you know 496 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: in laws in insert themselves into private conversations or things 497 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: with your partner that shouldn't involve them. They have every 498 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: right to do it, but it's something they shouldn't do. 499 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: So that's my analysis on it. 500 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Another 501 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: story that caught a lot of people's eye was kind 502 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: of the I guess back and forth maybe the way 503 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: to put about it on what was happening with Anthony 504 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Davis in his hand situation. You know the report that 505 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: came out that said he was likely done for the season, 506 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: Davis refutes it. Then there's a second opinion. There's also 507 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: trade deadline coming up in less than a month. So 508 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: where are we on Anthony Davis in what is happening 509 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: with the Mavericks? Big Man? 510 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think what Ad was saying is technically true. 511 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: By the letter of the law that he's not ruled 512 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: out necessarily for the rest of the season technically, but guys, 513 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: let's just be real. You read it the right in 514 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: the law Anthony Davis's injury history. Where the Mavericks are, 515 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: you know, in this current standings uncertainty if or when 516 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving is even back. I don't think that they 517 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: formally decided that, nor have you know, they've made a 518 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: medical diagnosis with doctors, but you connect the dots, it 519 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: seems like that's going to be the fore gone conclusion. 520 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: But you know, until we get to that point, it's 521 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: not official. But I want to be surprised. I would 522 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: be surprised if we see a d play in another 523 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: basketball game this season because of the injury history as 524 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: well as just the fact that it seems like this 525 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: is a lost season for Dallas outside of just seeing 526 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 4: Cooper fly contained a blossom of the great rookie. 527 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: So, Mark, I was on air on my Saturday show 528 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: the night that the Knicks were eliminated last year by 529 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers, and you know, we were one of 530 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: the first just shows to have and we might have 531 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: had you on that night, I can't remember, but the 532 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: conversation about at the time Tom Thibodeau and I just 533 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: bring it up because Nick's obviously sitting in second place 534 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: in the East. Do you believe that Mike Brown can 535 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: elevate them to that level that Tom Thibodeau couldn't, or 536 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: is this it's just kind of a veteran team that's 537 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: having success very similarly to the way that they have 538 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: in previous regular seasons in the last couple of years. 539 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, really good question, Aaron. I think that both things 540 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: can be true, but I think proportionally it's more of 541 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: the fact that the Knicks have a really good roster 542 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: and they've retained that and obviously starts with Jalen Brunson, 543 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: but it also extends to Karl Anthony Towns being a 544 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: more complete player, eliminating a little bit some of his fouls. 545 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 4: But they also have just really great role players o 546 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: Giananobia Michel Bridges is more consistent. Josh Hart. I do 547 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 4: think that Mike Brown's coaching has made a difference, specifically 548 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: with the amount of pace that they play at. That's 549 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: a lot more than Tom Thibodeau did with the same 550 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: personnel last season. But I think both are great head 551 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 4: coaches are very well prepared. They know how to motivate players, 552 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: They had their respect. You know, they're both defensive gurus. 553 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: But where I think Mike Brown has the edge over 554 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: Thibodeau is on the offense. Ironically, at the beginning of 555 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: Mike Brown's career, he wasn't known as an offensive guru. 556 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: But he's innovated. He's been with the Golden State Warriors 557 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: as a key assistant under Steve Kerr. When he was 558 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: with the Kings, he got them moving at a very 559 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: fast paced and I think that's carried over to the 560 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: NIXT But it always starts with talent. I think with 561 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: the Knicks specifically, the fact that they have the same 562 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: core has made a big difference that has allowed them 563 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 4: to be a real true contender in these all. 564 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: Right, last one for me, Mark Medina joining us here 565 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, and I just want to ask 566 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart. Jason, you have called I believe the Washington 567 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Wizards the most irrelevant franchise in sports. He's nodding his head, yes. 568 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: All right, So, for the first time in about four 569 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: years of sports talk radio, I have a Washington Wizards question. 570 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: How high could Trey Young take the Washington Wizards. 571 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: You know what, don't roar your eyes, but I can't 572 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: think they can take them to the playoffs next season. 573 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm with Jason one hundred percent. Like they're 574 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: known as irrelevant. There's always been a running joke that 575 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: me and some other media members have that the Washington 576 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: Wizards historically have only existed solely so that every NBA 577 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: team can have an eighty two game schedule. But here 578 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: show me out, guys. Trey Young's on low risk. Here 579 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: they got him, you know, for a pretty good deal, 580 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: only uh not only giving up CJ. McCollum in a 581 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: first round pick and a role player because the market 582 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: was depressed. They are aren't good right now, but they're 583 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: going to protect their number eight pick. Trey Young might 584 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: come back, but it's not going to be enough to 585 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: affect the winning record. And when you look at this 586 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: young core, Alex Sar, Trey Johnson, Blalcole Bally, Keyshawn George, 587 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: they're all pretty good individual pieces that if you combine 588 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: them with someone like Trey Young, they could be a 589 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: playoff team. And I think that they will also keep 590 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: in mind, this isn't a functional front office anymore. Travis Schlank, 591 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: he used to be with the Hawks. He's the one 592 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: that tore them down and built around Trey Young. He 593 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: has a pedigree. He used to be at the Warriors 594 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: front office. Michael Winger, he used to be with the 595 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: Clippers with assembly in their roster. Now, you know, that's 596 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: a whole other comvo about Kawhi and Paul George. But 597 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: from a talent acquisition standpoint, did a good job. He 598 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: has background in OKC. So what I'm getting at, guys, 599 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: both things can be true current present time. The Wizards 600 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: are relevant. They're a bad team, but I think that 601 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: they truly are hey in the right direction because of 602 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 4: all the things I outline. 603 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: They have not been above five hundred since the twenty 604 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty eighteen season. They have not been above 605 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: four hundred since the twenty twenty two twenty three season. 606 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: So that's why we can hang a banner the first 607 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: time we've asked the Wizards question in four years on 608 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, good luck with the escalade, Mark, 609 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: you know and the crypto. No, we're kidding again. Mark 610 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: Medina's ex account has been hacked. You can help him 611 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: out by any way please do so. Mark. We appreciate 612 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: the time. 613 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate you and all seriousness. Report it on X. I'm 614 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: sure the more the merrier will get this all resolves, though, 615 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. 616 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: It right now. G underscore Medina. Everybody was wondering, Wow, 617 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: Mark Medina pretty pretty brashed with the crypto obviously hacked. 618 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, We'll talk to you against you man. 619 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, your best. 620 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's get the Isaac long Crown at the 621 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: news desk for the least of what's happening on this Wednesday? 622 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: What's going on? Isaac? 623 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 8: There's a guy out there named David Kavucci who puts 624 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 8: out a newsletter reporting on interesting information from college sports 625 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 8: that he gets from making Freedom of Information Act requests. 626 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 8: While today he reported on various travel expenses that Big 627 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 8: Ten universities spent for Big Ten Football Media Day in 628 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 8: Las Vegas this past summer, including this, The Nebraska contingent 629 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 8: had six hundred dollars worth of smash burgers door dashed 630 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 8: directly to their private jet on their way out of 631 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 8: town for the flight home back to you guys. 632 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: Ahh, that's one rule I'd like to follow. There you 633 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: go about that little Matt rule allowing the smash Burgers 634 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: within the budget on the private jet. Weren't there some 635 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: schools like was it with basketball that didn't even bring 636 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 2: players or no, it was it was media members. Some 637 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: schools didn't even have media members go to media day 638 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: because of the travel. I think Penn State was one 639 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: of the schools, and you're like, at the time, we 640 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: think of Penn State national championship contender, but I don't 641 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: think they sent some guys to Las Vegas because of 642 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: the cost. 643 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: There was complaint about the how far away it is 644 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: except Vegas. You could probably get the cheapest hotel room 645 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: anywhere in the country of a major city. 646 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: Neither here nor there. Go ahead, all right, was sam? 647 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 7: I was just gonna bring up recently Isaac talked about 648 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 7: Texas Longhorns balloon budget and you know some places can't 649 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 7: even send an assistant coach to media days in the 650 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 7: loon budget. What was it again, Isaac, I'm looking right now, 651 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 7: but it was unbelievably high. It was like budget it 652 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 7: was like over one hundred thousand dollars for the athletic 653 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: department for the whole year just. 654 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: For balloons and helium. Yeah, yeah, but those numbers can 655 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: be inflated. 656 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Hearing Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup 657 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox 658 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 659 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox Sports Radio. 660 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: Isaac lohing Kron here giving us the news. Jason Stewart, 661 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: our executive producer, founder of the Midway. That's coming up 662 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. 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Final three seconds, 671 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 6: dribble off the clock and you can rock chuck it up. 672 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 6: The Jayhawks win undefeated, no more an absolute domination. Eighty 673 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 6: four to sixty three. 674 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: Kansas down goes number two last night. Brian Hanney from 675 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: lear Field on the call. Kansas at the big win. 676 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, their star freshman, maybe the number one overall pick, 677 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: finally seemingly healthy. He's been in ant a lineup all year. 678 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 3: Big twelve is really good this year. Motherway, you mentioned 679 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: I was state number two, Arizona's number one. They don't 680 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: appear to be slowing down although they played to night. 681 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: Were you surprised you didn't have a Yukon win over 682 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: sat In Hall as our player of the day. 683 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 9: Well light from Jason Stewart watch eracuse if you watch 684 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 9: the game, there were no great place. 685 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: Yukon blew like a twenty point lead in the final 686 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: like eight minutes and held on for dear life. So 687 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: there was a lot of and ones from Seaton Hall, 688 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: but they lost and then they would miss the follow 689 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: up free throw. So hey, I don't know that it 690 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: was I don't know that that game was built for 691 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: play of the day. It wasn't play of the day 692 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 3: type material. 693 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, Kansas gets the huge win over the previously unbeaten Cyclones. 694 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 2: Rich Paul's doing some talking and Lebron James is doing 695 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: some answering. First of all, let's hear from Lebron's agent 696 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: on the podcast that Rich Paul does with Max Kellerman. 697 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 10: If I was the Lakers, I would probably be targeting 698 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 10: the Memphis Grizzlies as a trade partner for some way, somehow, 699 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 10: I would be trying to get Jaron Jackson. If you're 700 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 10: building around Luca going forward, which they are, you need 701 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 10: a guy like you need that anchor. And Jaren doesn't 702 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 10: want to be a part of a rebuild. They just 703 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 10: put John Morant on the market. Now the package just 704 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 10: goes out, is what you have to decide. 705 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 2: But this comes with a reef. 706 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 10: This comes with a very unemotional attachment because Austin is 707 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 10: beloved she should be, but he's about again, he's underdog. 708 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. 709 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 10: There's a world where you can do what's best for 710 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 10: your team and do what's best Frost because Austin deserves 711 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 10: to get paid. 712 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: So that was Rich Paul on the Game Over with 713 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: Max Kellerman and Rich Paul podcast throwing out trade proposals 714 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: for the Lakers where Lebron James had to ask was 715 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: asked about it last night saying, quote, I think you 716 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: all know by now, Rich is his own man. And 717 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: what Rich says is not a direct reflection of me 718 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: and how I feel. I hope people know that end quote. 719 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all i'd say is, when you actually hear the audio, 720 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like Rich Paul advocating for a trade. 721 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 3: But to Mark Metidia's point a minute ago, every time 722 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: Rich Paul speaks, it feels like it is on behalf 723 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: of Lebron James, whether it is or not, And it 724 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: just to me leads to the question of, like, I understand, 725 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: we live in a world where everybody wants their voices 726 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: to be heard, and there's, you know, easy ways to 727 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: get your voice out on social media and podcast and 728 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: YouTube and whatever. 729 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: I just don't think Rich Paul's the. 730 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Person to have a podcast because any time that he 731 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 3: is going to talk about the NBA, the insinuation is 732 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 3: going to be that he's secretly saying it to do 733 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: something behind the scenes. I don't think it benefits him 734 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 3: or his clients, in this case, the client being Lebron James. 735 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit I actually liked it. I liked hearing 736 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: someone in the know of an agent saying that, and 737 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent with what you said. As 738 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: a consumer say, of the product of listening to it 739 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 2: someone of that stature throwing out names like naming names, 740 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: and you name names, it's a pretty big deal. And 741 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: for him to do that, I'm not saying he's right 742 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: in doing that. I'm just saying as a listener, I 743 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, and you could by the way you 744 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 2: could tell it it was talked about beforehand because Max 745 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: was jumping in at certain points. If Max didn't know 746 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: where Rich Paul was going, you wouldn't have been jumping 747 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 2: in at those points. And so that's why I think 748 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: it was also contrived. But I still liked hearing it. 749 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would just add too, you can play 750 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: You can hear in that audio he's clearly playing more 751 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: fantasy GM than like putting on his agent hat. But 752 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: I still think when you see it printed out, it 753 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: doesn't make him look. 754 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it's it's the words. And Lebron had 755 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: more to say about it in saying that Austin reeves 756 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: knows how he feels about him, and so there was 757 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: some damage control on the Bron's part. Lebron's probably the 758 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 2: least happy about it all, or maybe not. You never 759 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: know what Lebron Wizard. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. 760 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: Indiana's a favorite in the National Championship Game and apparently 761 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: a favorite of America.