1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 3: It's a Wicked month. We have lots and lots of wicked, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 3: Wicked recaps, Wicked guests. We are just wickeded out over here. 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: But there's never enough wicked. So that said, we have 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: a wonderful guest today, Marissa Body, who plays Nasa Rose 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: in both the Wicked movies. So exciting. I cannot wait 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: for you to hear this conversation. I was so excited 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: to talk to her. This is amazing. We've got Nasa 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: Rose here. Hi, Marissa, how are you? 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you? 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: for taking the time to come chat. Of course, congratulations. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Are you exhausted. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: I'm not completely dead yet. I've had okay, I've had 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: a little bit of time in between, like to just decompress. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 4: Not a time, but I'll h the time. I have 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: to decompress in between. I definitely milk as much as 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: I can. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to, you have to. 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Well. Congratulations on Wicked on. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: Part two, premiering tomorrow, and. 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: We are so excited to have you here just to 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: talk about everything. 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: So I want to go back a little. 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Bit because I know you were doing musical theater from 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: a wee age, and I want to know how you 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: found musical theater or how musical theater found you. 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the first actual musical that 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: I did. It's hard to say, because I started doing plays. 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: I don't think they had musicals until high school at 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: within my school district anyways, but because I did really 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: love musicals, I remember me and my parents, it's like 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: seeking for musicals outside of just our districts because again, 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: like I didn't have opportunity to do that into a 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 4: high school, and I didn't want to wait until then. 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: We'll say it was either. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 5: Maybe Annie or of course a Wizard of Oz, maybe Wow, 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: it was the one of like the classic kid go 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: to musicals. 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: Of course, of course, we we just watched Annie. So 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: it's so much fun. It's just so a formative for 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: young women to be watching these young girls singing. You're like, 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: I could do that and beelt my face off. 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I I think I was first introduced to 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: musicals via musical movies and then and then later I 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: was like, I kind of want to do that, and 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: I did. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: And what, like, what were your favorites growing up? And 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: like which ones did you always like dream to do? 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: Definitely the Wizard was definitely Annie. It's funny because like 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: I did have a DVD of Annie, and obviously streaming 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: at that time any ways was not a thing, And 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: so I watched Annie via bootleg at least like fifteen 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: pieces on YouTube on some random channel as like an 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: eight year old. Wow, And I, I mean I was 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: committed clearly. 59 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I totally get that. Oh my gosh. And 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: then you kind of you made your way too to Amda. 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: What was what was the journey of like your you know, 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: your musical theater career because you were also working as an. 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Art teacher before Wicked. 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: So just like fill in the blanks for me a 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: little bit. I'm just so curious to hear about the 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: journey to get to uh to where you are. 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I I've loved musicals, but I feel like 68 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: those that love musicals and musical theater nerds are like 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: die hard. And at that point junior senior year of college, 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: when I was applying or not college of high school, 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: when I was applying to colleges. I was like, I 72 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: like singing, but I don't know if I'm dedicated enough, 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: and I don't know if I feel confident enough in 74 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: my vocal abilities to apply as an MT major. So 75 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: I actually applied to AMDA as an acting major, and 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: I got my bachelor's in acting. And then that first 77 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: year after graduating in twenty twenty one, I believe I 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: was auditioning, also applying to jobs to survive and eat, 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: which job market currently is awful, but it was also 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: not great then, and so I was applying to so many, 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: especially as a disabled person, applying to many jobs not 82 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: hearing back, and finally secured a job at Boys and 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: Girls Club Love Boys and and I was. I ended 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: up being an after school art teacher, which is kind 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: of ironic because I was so close to going to 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: college for our education rather than acting, because that was 87 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: more realistic, right, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I really did 88 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: love working the job, but I don't know if it 89 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: was necessarily something I saw myself doing for forever. And 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: I feel that way if I were to seriously have 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: gone into our education, like I love art, but I 92 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: don't know if that's truly where my absolute passion is 93 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: or was. And then Wicked happened or came into my 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: inbox like a year after graduating college and sent in 95 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: a self tape, got a phone call that that same 96 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 4: day while at Boys and Girls club. Wow, and yeah, 97 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 4: it is many many callback sessions after that. It was 98 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: not just the one and done thing, but alas it was, 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: it's been a journey since then. 100 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: Clearly, what were you what was going through your head when. 101 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: You got the the email in your inbox? Like were 102 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: you like I could totally do this or You're like 103 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna get this. I'm just carrying. 104 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: Honestly kind of kind of both because again I wasn't 105 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: it said strong like singing lead or whatever, or like 106 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: strong vocal abilities, and again I just was not confident 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: enough at that time. Anyways, I will say the musical 108 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: team at Wicked definitely helped my confidence in that way. 109 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: But yeah, I I was like, I'm gonna do my best, 110 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: Like I know I can carry a tune, but I 111 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: don't know how strong in terms right vocal abilities that 112 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: if they liked me enough for that, but I was 113 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: fairly confident enough in my acting. And then also I 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: had obviously seen Wicked. I had seen Wicked when I 115 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: was eleven or twelve, and my mom had surprised me 116 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: with tickets when it had been on the tour, and 117 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: so I was obviously familiar with what it was and 118 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: obviously making it to a movie and something that was 119 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: so beloved, I knew how big it was and just 120 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: important it was, and also the fact that they were 121 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: casting authentically how important that was to me, and also 122 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: just the community as a whole. So I really really 123 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: didn't want to put my all into it, Like, of 124 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: course I put my all in, do my best, to 125 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: put my all into anything in terms of auditioning, but 126 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: this was one that I really really wanted to, yeah, 127 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: really push myself and just do my best. And sad 128 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: they liked it enough to self tape enough to have. 129 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you the first film, you were incredible, And 130 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for part two for for Good, because 131 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Nasa has such an incredible arc in both films, you know, 132 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: but especially just over the span of both, So I'm 133 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: so excited to see it. I'm curious to hear, like 134 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: what that initial filming was like for you stepping into 135 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: this role of Nasa. Rose which is so beloved and 136 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: so iconic, you know, and and was there like did 137 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: you feel pressure going into this or you know, how 138 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: did John like set this up for you guys? 139 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't necessarily feel outside pressure like from John 140 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 4: or anything, but I, as a lot of artists, I 141 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: put a lot of pressure on myself, especially being I 142 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: don't know, I just wanted to give good representation to 143 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: my community, and just because I knew I just have 144 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: so many other talented peers within this community that I 145 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: know also auditioned, and I'm like they were also so 146 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: deserving of this, So I just want to just show 147 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: that I can do it and show that it's just 148 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: this responsibility within the community. I feel that I want 149 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: to show that we belong. And it's the thing of 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: like always having to feel like I have to prove 151 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: myself even though I know that we are capable as actors. 152 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: It's just as a disabled person, I feel like it's 153 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: always gonna be there, unfortunately. But yeah, I definitely felt 154 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: pressure and intimidated just because also obviously my other cast 155 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 4: members are so incredibly talented and also just so established 156 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: and have so much behind them already and within their careers, 157 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: so intimidated just because of their talent, not them necessarily 158 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: as people, because they've they've been nothing behind to me 159 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: from from day one, really, but yeah, a lot of pressure. 160 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: Definitely intimidated. But to what I go back to what 161 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: I just said of just John and the rest of 162 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: the cast immediately just being welcoming and kind. It definitely, 163 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: of course helped helped my anxious self a little bit. 164 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. 165 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it it's I feel like it's just 166 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: there's so many there's such high stakes in general, and 167 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: then the pressure that you put on yourself as an 168 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: artist is just but I but it really it came 169 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: through in such a beautiful way. What however you channeled 170 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: your you know, all the emotions going into something like this. 171 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: It was really beautiful the way that you portrayed her, 172 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: and she's so likable and warm, and it's really wonderful 173 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: to see you shine on screen. And I hope that 174 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: you are you're finding that confidence or have found more 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: of that confidence. 176 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: You know that you said that you. 177 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: Were kind of lacking earlier on because you have such 178 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: a big career ahead of you and you're such a 179 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: bright star. So we're so excited to see You Shine 180 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: in Part two. I I would love to know about 181 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: part two about for Good because NASA has such an 182 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: incredible piece and important piece of this second film. 183 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: And like, what was it like did. 184 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: You guys feel these I know there was the strike 185 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: and you know COVID and all of that. 186 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: But did you guys do these back to back? 187 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: And then what was it like like shifting the tone 188 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: for knowing that it was going to be a different film. 189 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did film back to back. I know some 190 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: of the cast members they there, they did some stuff 191 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: from film one and then they would jump to film too. 192 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: But for me, just the way the schedule played out. 193 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: The schedule was also like ever changing as a lot 194 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: of the time past, But for me it worked out 195 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: in the way of all my film one stuff just 196 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 4: happened to be filmed before we even touched my two stuff, 197 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: which for me was helpful in the way of having 198 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: all of that in mind and having all of that 199 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: memory done and into action and then jumping into something 200 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: in terms of context, which is so different from from 201 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: the first the first film. Neessa, Yeah, yeah, that it 202 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: was helpful. And also there was a lot of work 203 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: that I had to put into in terms of filling 204 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: in the blinks in terms of either blinks that weren't 205 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: necessarily written into the scripts, like extra back story for Nessa, 206 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: how she grew up fully fully of course you see 207 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 4: a little bit of that in the first film at 208 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: the beginning, but more so the time jump in between 209 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: the first film and the second film. I definitely had 210 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: to fill in blinks for myself in terms of how 211 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 4: she goes from who she is at the end of 212 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 4: film one to who she is at the beginning of 213 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: film two. And I did that by journaling a lot 214 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: as Nasa, which really was very helpful. It was very 215 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: helpful in terms of context and keeping it in mind, 216 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: although like once I'm actually on set and we're in 217 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: go mode, obviously keeping that in my head, but sometimes 218 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: when you're in a scene and you're there, you're not 219 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: necessarily thinking about all of that per se once you're dialogue. 220 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: But it was definitely helpful just to keep in mind 221 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: and to really dive into that headspace as Yeah, she changes, 222 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: for sure, and she has an arc, but I really do, 223 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I honestly do. I know a lot of people say 224 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 4: Nanessa's villain arc, but for me, yes, she she plays 225 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: a villain per se. But and I know it's truly 226 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: my job as an actor to have that empathy for 227 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: my character. But I really really do understand her. Like 228 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: when people say villain origin story, like this is my 229 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: that would have been my villain origin story. Yeah, Like 230 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: for Vanessa, it makes sense why she does what she does, 231 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: not justifying it. I can't defend my girl on everything, 232 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: but I really really do understand it. She it comes 233 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: from a place of in my opinion anyways, and how 234 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: I went about it, it all comes from a place 235 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: of hurt that has manifested into anger. But at the 236 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: core of all of it, it really is just her 237 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: in heartbreak and real human things that a lot of 238 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: people go through. Don't always handle it in that way, 239 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: and I would actually recommend to not handle it in 240 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: the way that nessa happens, But I really really do 241 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: understand it. 242 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, that I'm sure will. 243 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Come through in a way that I haven't seen the 244 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: film obviously yet, the second one, but it'll just make 245 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: her just more complex and more relatable. And you know, 246 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: if you see her that way and you understand her 247 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: at the deepest level, you know most importantly. 248 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I think the story is full 249 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: of complex characters. I think all the characters really in 250 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: Wicked are so complex in so many different ways, and 251 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: there's so many layers to them, and there I don't 252 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: think the characters are any of them really. I think 253 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: multiple characters do play at least the little bit of 254 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: a villain in some ways at some point or another, 255 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: But I don't think that makes a person inherently evil 256 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: or all completely bad. And I think the film does 257 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: a good job of showing that, of showing the pockets 258 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: of humanity within all of them and the goodness in 259 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: all of them, whether that was in the first film 260 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: or if you still see those pockets of humanity with 261 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: second film, or in characters like Glinda, really see her 262 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: humanity and her desires and what makes her human jump 263 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: out a lot more in my opinion, And honestly, I 264 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: think for me, in the movie version, I see I 265 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: understand Glinda's character a little bit more than I do 266 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: the stage version, and understand where she's coming from a 267 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: little bit more than I do in the stage. 268 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's the beauty of like what 269 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: John did with these films was like something so beloved 270 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: and so successful at what it did on stage elevated 271 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: into this piece of art that didn't. It just expanded 272 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: the universe and the world and the characters and their 273 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: development versus just translating it. And so I think that's 274 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: why it's so successful and why and to the to 275 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: your point about the characters, like these very strong female 276 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: characters at the Helm that are complex and flawed and 277 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: layered and still lovable and human is what makes this 278 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: so dynamic and so and I think resonates with a 279 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: lot of people because you know, there's so much out 280 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 3: there that you don't get to see female characters like 281 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: this that have such complexity to them, where you get 282 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: to play with all these layers and all these pieces. 283 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: That's just like an you know, a dream for actors. 284 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: So what a what a joy to watch you guys 285 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: and Cynthia and Ariana just. 286 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Dive like straight in. It's really really exciting to see. 287 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, on just the work that my my co stars 288 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: have have put into this and the passion that they have. 289 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: I know, I feel like the first film, like in interviews, 290 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 4: everyone's like meming them of their like tears and whatever else. 291 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: But I was like I get it, Like, yeah, I 292 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: think women should be allowed to express emotion without it 293 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: being I don't know, like something that's like I don't know, 294 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: and I don't know. I just think women should be 295 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: allowed to exist and express any emotion really without it 296 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 4: being a whole thing. 297 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, we normalize it, right, Yeah, normalize that. 298 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: I would love to hear we saw some spoilers or 299 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: in the trail or at least of some things that 300 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: are a little bit different from the stage production to 301 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: the movie with Nessa, and I would just love to know, 302 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: like what the conversation was and how collaborative it was, 303 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: how much of a part of it, Like were you 304 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: a part of that decision and in bringing NASA to 305 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: fly versus to walk, and how important that was to 306 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: you personally, and you know, I'd love to hear that story. 307 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I was honestly one of the last people 308 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: cast in the film altogether. I think Michelle came a 309 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: little bit later also, but I know I was one 310 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: of the last cast members cast, and so by that 311 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: point the script was really already written. So I wasn't 312 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: necessarily a part of the changes in the script. And 313 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: I didn't find out actually until I hadn't met Winnie Holsman, 314 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: who's one of the main writers of Wicked. I hadn't 315 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: met her actually until the first film had come out, 316 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: and we have this celebratory dinner party, and I was 317 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: just talking with her, and she had said that she 318 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 4: had heard some of the feedback from the disabled community 319 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: about the portrayal of Nessa on stage and how it 320 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: feeds into harm of full stereotypes and makes her a 321 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: little bit more one dimensional of and a little bit 322 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: more predictable of Oh, I'm a disabled character. The only 323 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: thing about me, not only thing, but the main thing 324 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 4: about me is I don't like being disabled. She wanted 325 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: to do right by the community and really flesh her 326 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: out a lot more, and so she talked to one 327 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: of her disabled friends to get insight that way, which 328 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: already just like a great, a great step in the 329 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: right direction of talking to someone who's actually disabled. And she, 330 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: of course without changing the story too much and then 331 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: keeping the magic within it all changing it in a 332 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 4: way that makes the portrayal a little bit more healthy 333 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: and also makes Nissa a little bit more fleshed out 334 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: and a little bit less one dimensional and less. I 335 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: hate my disability, and that's the main thing about me. Yeah, 336 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: and so yeah, as you see in the trailer, Nessa 337 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: does rather than stand, she does floats in the air. 338 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: And again the magic is still there, but Nessa's desires 339 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 4: are are different, and I was really happy with the changes. 340 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: Of course, ambulatory wheelchair users exist, and we see that 341 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: with Jenna on Broadway right now. Incredible. I think she 342 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: does an incredible job. But that wasn't necessarily the storyline itself, 343 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: like Nasa wasn't ambulatory, and now that she can stand, 344 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 4: it was more so. Oh, I want to be fixed 345 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: because I loathe my disability. And of course that can 346 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: be true to some disabled people, but for a lot 347 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: of us that's not true. And if anything, I think 348 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: it plays into the cycle of disability and the representation 349 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 4: of disability in the way of disabled person hates their 350 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: disability because society deems it's bad. Therefore it's portrayed as bad, 351 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: and then we're back in that cycle of disabled person 352 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: hates their disability because it's portrayed that way. And yeah, 353 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: and of course I don't speak for the whole disabled community, 354 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: and all disabilities are different, and sometimes having a disability, 355 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: especially if it's something like chronic pain, it can be 356 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: frustrating to have, but I think a lot of the 357 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: things are societal based, and so it's not necessarily all 358 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: of our story or all of who we are as 359 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: human beings. So I am really happy with that change. 360 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: I will say I'm extremely happy and honestly believed a 361 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: little bit with the feedback that I've seen so far, 362 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 4: just based off the trailer of the change is because 363 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: it's so beloved already on stage. It's one of those 364 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: things where if you change like the littlest bit of things, 365 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: like the die hard fans. 366 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Will be like no, like why. 367 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: So I was so anxious and so nervous, even though 368 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: I knew in my heart that it was right in 369 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: terms overall the view of disability and how it's portrayed. 370 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 4: But I was very very anxious. And I know there's 371 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: going to be still people out there that don't necessarily agree, 372 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: and that's okay, and I think that's art in general. 373 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: Is not everyone's going to agree with how a story's told. 374 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: But I ultimately I'm really happy, little bit relieved that 375 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: other people didn't hate it. Yeah, but I'm I'm happy. 376 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: Speaking of like feedback from the community, Uh, what has 377 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: been the feedback from your you know, the disabled community 378 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: in terms of your portrayal of Nasa Rose and like 379 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: having representation on screen, Like, I'm sure that's so important, 380 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: So I'm just curious if like you felt that, and 381 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, meeting fans and meeting people out in the world. 382 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's been really great to be a part 383 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: of that, because I I really do want to give 384 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: credit to where credit to do and all those that 385 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: have come before me that have already set the groundwork 386 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: for being in in roles like I am now, like 387 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: Gillian Riccado, Lolo Spencer, Ali Stroker, George Robinson, just just 388 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: a handful of other disabled people who have done it 389 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 4: before me. I'm definitely not the first, but to be 390 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 4: a part of something so big as as we kid 391 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: and for them to do right by it and cast authentically, 392 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 4: I think is so important. And to be a part 393 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: of that representation now for other disabled people has been 394 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: really really great, And just other disabled people looking up 395 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 4: to me in that way has been really honoring and 396 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: I feel so incredibly honored for that. And then also 397 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: to take it a bit further in the way of 398 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: using my platform to speak up for disability issues that 399 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 4: extend so far beyond representation. Because of course it's incredible 400 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 4: for other disabled performers to see another disabled actor on 401 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 4: a stage in a movie or in a movie this big, 402 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 4: but also recognizing that there's so many other issues that 403 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: we need to really survive, So using my platform to 404 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: amplify spaces for that affordable and accessible housing, like like 405 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: things like currently especially like things like snap benefits when 406 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: it's already so hard for disabled people to find work 407 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: and for a lot of disabled people, especially those with 408 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: that are immune compromised or or that live with chronic pain, 409 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: that's extremely debilitating, like they can't work and or pushing 410 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: themselves to work is makes it even more debilitating to 411 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: just exist. So things like that, I do my best 412 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: to use my voice and encourage others also to use 413 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: their voice as well. 414 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely good and good for you. 415 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: Good for you for not shying away from that. I 416 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: think it's empowering to see and important. 417 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: So, you know, kudos. 418 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: We Get is such a huge, a monster debut of 419 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: like your career in so many ways, and from the 420 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: premieres to you know, the production, I'm curious like to 421 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: hear some of the highlights of. 422 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: The Wicked experience that you've had thus far. 423 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, definitely, it's been a very long journey, 424 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 4: so there's a lot in there for sure. Of course, 425 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: number one highlight is being cast in it to begin 426 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 4: with that, and it just being so special. Basically they 427 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: told me that all of it was over zoom, by 428 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: the way, because everyone else was already in London. But 429 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: they had lied, but like in the best way. They 430 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: had told me that it was a callback, my last callback. 431 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: They told me it was a callback, but it was 432 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 4: really them telling me that I got the part, which 433 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: was very very special, and they they surprised me by 434 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 4: including Ari and Cynthia in it as well, which was 435 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 4: just like, oh my god, fully so mind owing and 436 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: more than I ever would have thought would have been. 437 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: Like they could have just like called my manager and 438 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: my manager have told me or just have I don't know, 439 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 4: they could have just set in an email like congratulations, 440 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: but which also, by the way, would have been I 441 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: would have taken that. But yeah, I could have step 442 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: further and made it show. So first of all, set 443 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: the precedent for it just being welcoming in this journey 444 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: being welcoming in the first place. But second of all, 445 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: doing it in a way that was just so thoughtful 446 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: and so above and beyond was that that was definitely 447 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: a highlight and just set a precedent for what was 448 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: to come. And then also traveling. I had never had 449 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: the funds to travel ever. This was my first time 450 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: out of the country ever in my life. So that's 451 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: also been a huge highlight for sure. And I've I've 452 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: had a lot of fun. I've loved getting to know 453 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: London a little bit more. That's where we filmed, really 454 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: and love Hyde Park. I just there's a lot that 455 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: I love about London. It's such a beautiful, beautiful city. 456 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: So much culture too, so much culture culture. 457 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people do do on I 458 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: don't know if I'm allowed to curse, I'm gonna say 459 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: do doo. Okay, then people on British food, But there's 460 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: a lot of really good British food. You guys just 461 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: aren't looking in the right spots. I don't. 462 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 463 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: Like hurry, Like there's a lot of really good de 464 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: furree out there. There's a little really good Thai food, 465 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: Malaysian food out there, like. 466 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, on spots, That's what I'm saying. 467 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: And so I've enjoyed that. I'm a little bit of 468 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: a foodie, so I've really enjoyed that. Of course, the 469 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: cast has been great meat and I always this but 470 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: it's so true, but meeting younger Anessa for the first 471 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: time was definitely a highlight. I'm still so close with 472 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: her family today. I see them often. She's grown so 473 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: much and she grows so fast, her and her younger 474 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 4: sister so crazy, right, Yeah, Like her sister was a 475 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: baby baby when when they were filming, and now she sprouted, 476 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: she's huge. 477 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: They were all really fast. 478 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: So fast, And I know it's so cliche to say, 479 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: and I know people say that all the time about kids, 480 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: but what it's expected. Yeah, but they've grown so fast. 481 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: But I also, on that note, I'm so like I one, 482 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: she feels like my sister, like that, that's my sister's frail. 483 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: But I'm just I'm so proud of her and just 484 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 4: how far she's calme and just the confidence that she's found, 485 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: and like it almost makes me emotional just because like, uh, 486 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: like I I I really do love her so much 487 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: and I love her family so incredibly much. Like that 488 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: that really is my family for real. Yeah, I can't 489 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: say enough good about them. They are I love them 490 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 4: so dearly, I really really do. 491 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: It seems like you guys all are very tight and 492 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: like there's like you have really formed like a family 493 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: that you're walking away with like that, maybe only you 494 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: guys can understand what that experience was like and what 495 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: it's been like for you all to do this together. 496 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you spend I was over there 497 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 4: for about seven months, so it was oh my six 498 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: seven months, and they, oh my god, no, they're gonna 499 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 4: mean that the whole six seven meme that was my bad. 500 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: No, Okay, we're gonna redacted, redacted. 501 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: That was not intentional. That was not intentional. I'm gonna say. 502 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say six months, six months. 503 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: About that we were over there, So that's half a year, 504 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: half year, so that you obviously like get to know 505 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: people a lot more. 506 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: I will say, like currently, like I I am so bad. 507 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: I am so bad at following up, and I'm so 508 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: bad at answering anybody's text and most of them are 509 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: not most of them, but like Ari, I know a 510 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: lot of the time, and I know Ethan and and 511 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: Bowen are all in New York really and I'm on 512 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: the West coast, so it can be tricky to like stay, 513 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: but I know when we do see each other in person, 514 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: of course they're it's like right back to them being 515 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: like just so kind and and very open. So I 516 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: appreciate that always. 517 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well, it's been a quite the journey, 518 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: So congratulations. 519 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: On the legacy you guys are leaving. 520 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: It's so the hype is real and we're all so excited. 521 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask before I let you go, like 522 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: did you watch Glee back in the day or did 523 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: you know what Glee was? 524 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: Well, of course I know what Glee is. 525 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: It's okay. 526 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: If not, it's really okay. 527 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: I of course know what Glee is. And then it's 528 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: so funny because I don't remember anything about it, to 529 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: be honest, but I do. I either remember watching it 530 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: as unfortunately and I don't know why, and also my 531 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: mother should have taken the remote away from me, but 532 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: I watched it as like an eight year old, and 533 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 4: I was like, I probably should shouldn't have been doing that. 534 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we had a lot of really young folk 535 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: watching it, and they would come up to us and 536 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: we would. 537 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: Say like, are you should you be watching the show. 538 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Are you old enough to watch the show? They're like, well, 539 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: sometimes I watched the music and then I pass forward. 540 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: I definitely did not fast forward, and I definitely watched 541 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: all of it, but I don't remember. Like, but then, 542 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: like every now and then, there will be a clip 543 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: online that comes out of this, and I was like, 544 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: this is the absurd show I've ever seen. I should 545 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: go back and watch all of it. 546 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: It really is. 547 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: It is absurd and it's completely unhinged. And if you 548 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: go back, and if you decide to go back and 549 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 3: watch any of it, just remember it's it's actually a satire. 550 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Like there, it's a satire. 551 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: And you're like, if you lean into that, you're like, oh, okay, 552 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: I see what they're doing. Because I think a lot 553 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: of people miss took that when they were watching it 554 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 3: for this like drama that we were not at all and. 555 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: Did not take ourselves seriously. So that's that's really funny. 556 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: But yes, I had to I had to ask. 557 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: We ask everybody who. 558 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: Came on the show when we were recapping Glee, what 559 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: is the feeling that. 560 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: Lee leaves you with? 561 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: So I just have to ask you, what is the 562 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: feeling that wicked leaves you with. 563 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, gratefulness. Really, I really am grateful for 564 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: all that it's giving me in terms of obviously and 565 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: of course horse career, and then what I get to 566 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 4: share with the world and emote to the world, and 567 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: the platform that it's helped me build in terms of 568 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: using my voice. I know, as I mentioned earlier, So 569 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm just yeah, grateful more than anything. 570 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for We're grateful for you 571 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: for taking the time to come on the show and 572 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: talk to us and share your journey. We're so excited 573 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: to see you shine In for Good and it's out tomorrow, 574 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: you guys, so go see it. 575 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you all have your tickets already. 576 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: But congratulations, and we can't wait to see what you 577 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: do next. 578 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: And we are we're rooting for you. 579 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: And thank you so much, Thank you so much. I 580 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: really appreciate it. 581 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: This is bad no, so so wonderful chatting with you, 582 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 3: and truly I'm like such a fan. I think you're 583 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: so wonderful and I really can't wait to see what's 584 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: what's next for you. So thank you, thank you. 585 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Thanks congratulations. 586 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: It's nice to meet you. 587 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 4: It's lovely to meet you toobe bye bye. 588 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what a sweet, sweet muffin. Marisa is amazing. 589 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 3: Thank you to Marissa for coming on and the all 590 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: the time that you're spending doing all of this press 591 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: and all of the premieres. We're so grateful you took 592 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: the time to come chat with us, and I hope 593 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: you guys enjoyed it. Obviously, go see Wicked for Good. 594 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: It's officially in theaters tomorrow. Tell us what you think 595 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: right in and we'll see you next time. 596 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: That's where you really missed. 597 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 598 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 599 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. 600 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 4: See you next time.