1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,919 Speaker 1: This is Gavin Newsom. 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Do you introduce yourself for the first time on this 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: new platform, tell them why you're on and kind of 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: what you're doing on here. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: I'm on because you're on, and others are on, and 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: people are having two way conversations, and you know, I 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: think this notion of this one way conversations broadcasts, it 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: doesn't work anymore. 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: So it's a great opportunity to be. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: Able to meet people where they are and to have 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: more substantive and long form conversations. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: So I'm really grateful. It's a great opportunity first time. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, super excited to have you. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks have seen you over 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks, especially on Midas touch on 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: Fred Wellman. You're doing new media more than really other 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: leaders in a Democratic party. Do you feel like this 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: is the future for Democrats? You know, other Democrats shoud 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: follow your lead here. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even think it's a future. 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: I think it's where we are now, you know, And 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: I think if we don't recognize that, we're not going 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: to reconcile where where our standing is as it relates 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 3: to the asymmetry of our communication challenges as a party. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: And look, you know, I don't know how you know. 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: I think it was Tucker Carlson even today, who basically 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: you know, was attacking Fox Or yesterday with Steve Bannon. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: And you know it's when when Tucker Carlson is saying 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: it's in essence of propaganda network, I think that's just 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: everything you need to know. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: But it's effective, just like Pravdo was effective. 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: And it is a communication arm of the Trump administration 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 3: and their surrounds sound and their ability to shape shift 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: conversations to put us on the defense is next level. 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 3: And so I think it's foundational. It's fundamental to quote 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: unquote our path back that we start to get more 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: aggressive in mediums like this, uh and build our own capacity, 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: our own opacity not just to push back against that, 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: but to truly expand that network of communication and engagement. 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, I got to ask you this morning. You kind 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: of went into the lines done writing a Fox News 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: op ed titled Trump is trying to destroy a democracy, 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: Do not let him? What was that OpEd about for 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: those who didn't read And why did you choose Fox News? 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: Well, because you've got to meet people where they are, 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: and it's you've got to hit people that are you 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: know that we haven't quote unquote already persuaded. And I 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: think one of the things that I think people have 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 3: criticized me, and I totally, I deeply appreciate. I'm very 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm probably more self critical than anybody listening or watching. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm not even making that up, like actually, And so 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: I use the word humility and grace all the time. 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: And I'm constantly trying to iterate and try new things. 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: And it's in that process of discovery. And so for 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: years I've been screaming and yelling saying we got to 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: get out of our own bubble. And I was screaming 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: and yelling about it, but I wasn't doing it. So 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: it's one thing to preach, it's another to practice. So 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: I started, you know, I said, called Sean Hannity. I said, hey, 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: you've been attacking me every single damn night. Invited him 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: to Ronald Reagan's old mansion, the Governor's mansion in California, 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: and we sat down for an unscripted hour and twenty minutes. 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: I said, the only rule is no editing. Let's have 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: this conversation and and put it up. And he did 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: to his credit and ended up not only being on 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: Fox and a few of those kind of interviews, did 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: a debate with Ron DeSantis, and you know, just started 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 3: to reach sort of breach that bubble, like just surt 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: pierce it a little bit and get in. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm trying to there's there's there's a huge. 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: Percent, a lot a lot of folks, a lot of Democrats, 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: a lot of independence, a lot of persuadables watching Fox 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: every night and in reading Fox. And so that's why 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: I did that up ed there. And look, I think 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: it's self evident. We all know what's happening to our democracy. 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: We all know what's happening to the you know, the 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: endairy values of our founding fathers. I said all the time, 78 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: the best of the Roman Republican, Greek democracy, co equal, 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: co equal branches of government, popular sovereignty, this notion of 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: system of checks and balances. And you know, we've seen 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: just the total corruption of Speaker Johnson, who's completely capitulated 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: and rolled over. There's no checks of ballots is left 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: in Congress. They're a lapdog of the Trump administration. That 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: means there's one left, and that's the courts. And we're 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: about to go into court quite literally in a few 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: minutes the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Two out of 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: three other judges on our panelic Trumpet judges on a lawsuit. 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: But the point is we're counting on the courts, and 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: we're counting on people that showed up in record numbers 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: over the weekend, unprecedented protests, which is amazing to hold 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: up this democracy. 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you both about the protest 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: but also about this court hearing. Can can you tell 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: folks what this court hearing is about. It's about I'm 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: assuming the ICE agents being able to work with marines 96 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: to kind of go into homes, into communities and conduct 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: these raids. But can you give some more laboration as 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: to what folks need to know about this hearing and 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: kind of what your expectation is given the fact that 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: there are two Trump judges on this circuit panel today. 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 102 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: So, I mean, so this is about federalism, This is 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: about tenth Amendment, this is about the rule of law, 104 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: this is about our constitution. It's about you know this 105 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: idea that you know the Founding fathers, you know, their 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: response to a monarchy and king was was this this 107 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: you know thing we frankly times take for granted. And 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: and so that's what ultimately is being tested here. And 109 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: that's the theory that Donald Trump can unilaterally decide to 110 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: militarize the streets of America. Happens to be in La now, 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: will be in your city next. He did a national order, which, 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: by the way, is the point about this being your 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: sitting next. It's not unique to California. That allows him 114 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: to if there's a protest, to unilaterally under this section 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: twelve four oh six under the you know, I don't 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: want to get into more details, but under rubric that's 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: well established as it relates to Title ten, under his 118 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: authority the federalized of the federalization of the National Guard 119 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: to decide to militarize by commandeering the National Guard, which 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: he's done in California, four thousand National guardsmen and women 121 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: have been taken out of my command and, by the way, 122 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: taken off the beat of doing forest management, vegetation management. 123 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: Three quarters of what we referred to as our rattlesnake 124 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: teams that we're preparing for wildfire season now been pulled off. 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: Counter drug task forces to deal with fentanyl. They've been 126 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: pulled off the counter drug task forces, including on border 127 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: issues where they've been deployed for almost six years. They've 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: been pulled off, including now the streets where a lot 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: of these are police officers, members of law enforcement and 130 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: their day jobs and now have been commandeered by the 131 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: President of the United States for ice enforcement. And so 132 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: that's fundamentally a question at hand. We won case thirty 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: six page injunctive belief that we got from Justice Bryer 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: last week, and they immediately ran it to the appellate court, 135 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: and today at noon will determine our fate. And if 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: you know, we're successful, and I believe we should be 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: and will be, that will be a big day in 138 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: the rule of law. 139 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: I guess we'll see what happens next. I will say 140 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: I think that this is an issue that has broken 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: through really like none other, immigration enforcement, specifically because it's 142 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: impacting every community. Republican, Democrat, independent, doesn't really matter. And 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: I think we saw that over the weekend with No 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: King's Day protests about five million folks conservatively nationwide, hundreds 145 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: of thousands in Los Angeles, San Diego. What's your reaction 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: to the protests on the ground. 147 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: People stepped up, They stepped in, and they're the antidote. 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I've said it. I said it in a speech the 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: other night. 150 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you're the antidote to that fear of anxiety, 151 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: the cynicism you may be feeling. All that's stacking of stress. 152 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: And you know that's stacking of stress. It's real, not 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: just the stress the last five months and all things Trump. 154 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: But look, I mean everything you guys have everybody's been through, right, 155 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: the pandemic and social unrest, you know, George Floyd, you know, 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, the macroeconomic challenges, supply chain disruptions, and obviously 157 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: now just this this, you know, this next level disruption 158 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: and authoritarian tendencies that we're all trying to push back 159 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: against against Trump administration. But people, what was so amazing 160 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: about this weekend is it showed people I haven't given up. 161 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: And that's extraordinary, and I think, you know, it's you know, 162 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: there's an old adage, you know in business, we talk 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: about success leaves clues, the power of emulation, And I 164 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: think the more people show up, the more people feel 165 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: like they're not alone, and the more likely others will 166 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: start to show up, and there's a contagion and a 167 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: positive sense here. 168 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: And that was on display over the weekend. 169 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: And that's honestly, like, that's that's if I have any 170 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: hope left, that's it, because I'm not you know, you know, 171 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: look at looking at what's happened to Congress, look at 172 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: what's happening in our institutions, look at what's happening to 173 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: law firms that are capitulating and selling out. Look what's 174 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: happening to ethics and these attacks and assaults on our courts. 175 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: Was left is we the people and the power of 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: people organizing and expressing themselves. I mean, that's why I 177 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: quoted Justice brandeis in a democracy the most important office, 178 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: sorry Donald Trump? And ain't the presidency the most important 179 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: office's office of citizen active non inert citizenship. And that's 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: what we're seeing. 181 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: And I think it's important to note that the overhalling 182 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: majority of those protests were peaceful. Across the country, they 183 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: were peaceful. People were I mean, the San Diego PD 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: tweeted out saying thank you for being peaceful, thank you 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: for exercising your ferston on the right. 186 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: And my nieces and my nephew's out there, my sister 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: was out there, and they had, you know, crayon and 188 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: they were doing their own signs. 189 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it was next level peaceful. 190 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: And what a point of contrast to the weaponization of 191 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: the extreme exceptions that you see on some of these 192 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: propaganda networks that said otherwise. So no, and that's by 193 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: the way, it's critical one of them. 194 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: Forgive me. It's an aside. 195 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: One of the most extraordinary things that I that I've 196 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: been able to do as governor was getting to know 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: this guy James Lawson, and some folks may know, as 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: some people may not passed away recently, and James Lawson 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: was the one that introduced doctor King to Gandhi and 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: non violent protests, and he was living in Los Angeles 201 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: during the George Floyd that I had a chance someone 202 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: introduced me. He said, boy, you really need to meet 203 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: rev and Lawson. You talk about moral authority. Man like 204 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: he just in this presence and I never met him, 205 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you just just your thunderstruck. And I 206 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: remember being in a around table meeting with leaders of 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: the of BLM and others that were out there protesting, 208 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: and he started read them the Riot Act. 209 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: He said, this is not the way we did it, and. 210 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm sort of sitting back on and he starts lecturing them, said, 211 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: you've got to have a plan, you got to have 212 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: a strategy, and you cannot be violent, and you cannot 213 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: condone violence. And he talked about the power again, moral 214 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: authority and movements and how movements, you know, becomes sustainable, 215 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: and I'm just reminded of that. It's so important that 216 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: we are reminded of our better angels. And we cannot 217 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: condone the violence. We cannot allow for that. It hurts 218 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: the movement, it sets us back. And it's exactly what 219 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: Trump wants. You're just handing it to him. That's what 220 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 3: he's looking for, so we can further command and control, 221 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: so we can further militarize the streets of the United States. 222 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: It's exactly what he wants. Let's not give it to. 223 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Him now, Governor, final question, and before you go, I 224 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: want everyone to go and subscribe to the top left 225 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: cornerhand subscribes to the governor substack. What's your message to 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: folks who are worried or afraid or scared want answers, 227 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: but they feel like they don't really have them right now? 228 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: What's your message to them? 229 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: You just keep doing what you're doing. The fact that 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: you're even listening to this means back to you know, 231 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: you haven't given up the fact that you're still in 232 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: the game. You still care, you still care about your kids. 233 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: Don't care about your family, your community, this nation, the 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: world we're trying to build your you know, look, this 235 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: is this is the moment. I mean, we're in it. 236 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: We are in it, and it goes in two directions. 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: We can roll over, you know, we could let him succeed. 238 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: We can watch you know, this two hundred and fifty 239 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: year experiment that completely collapse on itself. But we also 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: have incredible power in resilience to push back. And so 241 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: I just I pray. I mean, this is not a 242 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: politician saying this. Man, I got four kids and you know, 243 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: and I know we're out of time, but I'm not 244 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: making this up. I was with a twelve year old. 245 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: I got a twelve year old daughter. I was with 246 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: a twelve year old the other day down in Oxnard, California. 247 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: And I can't unsee this, I can't unexperience this. Both 248 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: of his parents were snatched from him twenty plus years 249 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: going in the same fields in Oxnard. He was born 250 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: here it's a sixth grader tears rolling down, I mean 251 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: streaming down. He couldn't even look at me in the 252 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: face because every time he tried to talk, he just 253 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: started a break down. That's Donald Trump's America. He took 254 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: his mom and dad. We just found his mom. They 255 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: just found his mom in a detention facility. He was 256 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: left with nobody, has no brothers and sisters. There was 257 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: no one to take care of him that night. That's 258 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: and Donald Trump is trying to tear this country apart. 259 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: He's going after blue cities, he's going after blue states. 260 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: He's not the president of the United States. He's asserting 261 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: himself exclusively as a president of red states. And we 262 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: cannot allow that to happen. But we can't turn into him. 263 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 3: As my long winning point, don't turn in to him. 264 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: We're better than that. Everyone wants to be loved, Everyone 265 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: needs to be loved. We all want to be protected, 266 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: we all want to be connected, and we all want 267 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: to be respected. And so I just I pray that 268 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: people recognize that we're all better off. We're all better off. 269 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: We're all in this together. Divorce is not a damn option. 270 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: I'll keep going on. I'm just saying, man, don't give 271 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: don't give up, and yes, divorce is not an option. 272 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: And so I'm just counting on people. And you know again, 273 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: I say that just selfishly as a dad, and so 274 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: thank I just appreciate anybody that tuned in and thank 275 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: you for tuning up in terms of being accountable to 276 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 3: this moment, society becomes how we behave, We are our behaviors, 277 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: bottom line. Not things are not happening to us. They 278 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: are happening with us, and so we have the ability 279 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: to manifest the better future. It's decisions, not conditions. So 280 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: I think everybody, let's make the wise choices and let's 281 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: not give into this cynicism and let's keep at it. 282 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: You heard it here for his governor. Thank you so 283 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: much for coming on. Go subscribe to the Governor's stack. 284 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: This was amazing. Hope to hope to have you again soon. 285 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, all right,