WEBVTT - Jenny Gill 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.920 Carola, She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.600 She's on the inside. She got the scoop on the walls. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.200 On the one side. No one can do within quiet, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:31.640 my Caral, Caroline, no one can do with quiet. Back 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.960 Carala this time Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.239 I am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music, I 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.519 know people, and I know the questions do you want 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.360 to ask? So let's get hyper heads up. These are 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.479 adults having adult conversations, so there could be adult content. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.160 You guys am so excited. Jenny Gills in the House 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:59.400 what would? And speaking of House, her new EP, The 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.000 House As is so good. It's so real, so honest. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.520 My favorite song on it is called Your Shadow, where 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.600 she addresses what it's like to live in the shadow 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.520 of her father, Vince gil She's so real and she's 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.720 just such a cool girl. I cannot wait for you 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.600 all to hear this interview, So y'all get excited. Here's 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.679 Jenny Gilm. So happy to have you. We've been trying 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.000 to do this interview for a little while and I'm 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.759 glad we've finally got it worked out and we get 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.360 to do this. This is beautiful. Isn't this space gorgeous? 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.000 This is beautiful. I kind of want to live here. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.800 You can move in, can I They've got a bathroom, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.640 no shower. Okay, maybe not details. Maybe I'll just visit often, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.600 visit often. You play some music anytime you want, Okay, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.240 So I want to start off with a little bit 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.720 of rapid fire. I'm gonna ask you a question and 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.440 you say the first thing that comes to mind, Oh, 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:54.120 this scares me already. You're gonna do okay, music, singing, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:02:06.880 same my dad, happiness, my son, little Wyatt, he's three, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:12.040 he's three. He makes me so happy and crazy all 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.760 at the same time. Right, But that's what toddlers are 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.600 supposed to do. That is what they're supposed to do. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.560 And I want to talk about your dad and why 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.120 at these two things you just mentioned, and two of 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.560 the songs that you just wrote, which would be on 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.400 your new album, E The House Sessions. Okay, So one 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.760 last word, what I success to you? Oh that's going. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.880 Oh that's a hard one. That's a that's a word 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.880 I have to go to therapy over. I'm being honest. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.200 What have you learned in therapy about success. Well, what 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:47.480 I'd like to learn in therapy about success is so much. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:52.799 Really success for me, I think is um It's hard 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.960 to describe. I think it's this unattainable goal because a 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.520 lot of people in my life currently are ridiculously six scessful. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.239 Like we're talking twenty one Grammys sitting on a shelf. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.520 That's right, that's my dad. That's what I have to 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.800 compare to. Is it Is it like that? I've always wondered, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.880 is it like that? Do you feel that you wrote 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.680 a song called the Shadow, which I love on your 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.240 new EP from the House Sessions. Yes, I tried to 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.280 um kind of one Grammy because people are lucky to 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.880 get one, well even to like being the plane where'll 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.360 be nominated exactly. It's like, how does this even happen? 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.799 How does that happen? It's ridiculous. You have to be 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.280 brilliantly gifted, I guess, which is what he is. And 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.280 it's fantastic and also very frustrating at the same time 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.240 when you're interested in having a music career, how do 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.440 you deal with that struggle? Sometimes I deal with it great, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.480 and sometimes I'm just like a mess on the floor 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.720 in tears and I can't function. But because on one 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.440 hand I was telling you earlier I was in a 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.800 band with Taylor Inn and Jennifer Wayne who also come 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.960 from legacy John Wayne and Loretta Lynne. On one handed, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.400 like a great door opener because you automatically get into 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.280 the room, I guess, or I'm not into the room, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.840 but like people will pay attention. On one hand, people 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.760 are automatically curious Larette Lene. I think told Taylor I 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.400 can get you in the door, but you have to 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.400 keep yourself there or something. And that's the truth. That 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.960 that's the truth. I mean, people are curious enough to say, hey, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.200 what's this all about? And if you're good enough, then 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.840 then the rest doesn't matter. So that's pressure too, because 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:33.719 you're like, what do you even standard? Because twenty one Grammys, like, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.800 how could anyone be that good? It's a pretty it's 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.560 a pretty big standard. And I guess when I have 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.919 to continue to tell myself I keep reminding myself, is 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.760 that I am me, I sound like me. I'm I'm 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:52.720 not one of those um kids who sounds exactly like 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.960 their parents UM, which I'm grateful for. I think I 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.560 have my own style and my own thing, and and 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:05.440 my husband, who's also very successful in the music industry. UM, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.679 on the publishing side of things. He he tells me, Babe, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.919 what you got to remember is that you're already successful. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.560 You put out this music and people bought it. It 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.440 doesn't matter how many bought it. The fact is that 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.560 there were people out there who cared enough to spend 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.320 their money. And that's I agree with that that success 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:29.960 And UM, I have to redefine the word um because 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.839 I'm not gonna win twenty one Grammys, but that doesn't 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.000 mean that I'm not going to be successful in music. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.640 I totally agree. And actually I was watching a video 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.680 of you and your dad and he said something. What 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.840 is his quote? He said, UM, most people have their 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.400 results in something, had the results in something to be 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.880 the definition of something. And I think that's backwards. If 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.480 it's great when you finished it, it's still great whether 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.520 anyone bought it or not. And I really think that 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.440 is so true. And that's what you just said. Absolutely. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.360 He told me this the other day. I was driving 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.159 to a show and I was kind of nervous about 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.840 it because I've just started accompanying myself on guitar and 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.919 it makes me so nervous to do. Go for it, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.880 and I'm just going for it. On put yourself out 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.200 there and go for it. And and I was. I 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.839 was talking to him on the phone driving down the 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.400 interstate and it's like, just wish me luck, and he said, Bud, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.200 I just want you to know I'm proud of you. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.320 And do it because you love it. Don't do it 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.960 based on some kind of outcome. Because he's right, the 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.719 outcome doesn't matters. You got to do it because you 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.040 love doing it. And we all have our own destiny. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.479 I really do believe that, and we all are meant 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.200 to affect in the way that we are. And it's 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.839 all relative of how big or small it is, you 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.440 know exactly it really is if you can reach that 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.400 one person that's really struggling right now, and that's that's 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.279 all that matters. I got a Facebook message recently from 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.480 somebody who was recovering from a massive surgery and they 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.279 were just saying, I put on your music and it 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.159 makes me feel better. And I was just like, Okay, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.000 I'm done. I've done it. I've made it. That's the 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.560 real that's what really matters. The awards and all that 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.200 stuff that we get dolled up for it's fun, but 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.640 it's reaching people's hearts. That's the that's the good stuff 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:21.600 right there. I love that. So you also toured background 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.920 singing with immigrant your sister stepmom, which is cool stepmom 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.640 to have. She's the most awesome stepmom. I will be honest. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.800 I tried to hate her. I was I was gonna 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.320 wonder because you also have an amazing mom. Your mom 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.520 is You're like, she's a sweetheart, cowboys sweetheart, rodeo sweetheart, 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.960 sweethearts of the rodeo. Yeah, her and her sister are 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.880 the sweethearts of the rodeo? Is that? So you have 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.840 this awesome mom and then you get this super famous 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.240 stepmom who's awesome too. How do you hate someone like that? Well, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.520 you don't. I mean I tried to so bad when 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.560 when dad and Amy got together, I was in high school, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:00.320 so already an awkward, horrible time, and um, thing was 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.560 happening so quickly, and and the normal teenager instinct is 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:10.320 to be defensive and no, I hete and but I couldn't. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.080 She's she handled it really well. She would just always 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.200 create an environment for everybody to get together. And she 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.400 was never pushy about it. Really, she wouldn't make you 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.480 feel guilty if you didn't show up. She's just like, hey, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.560 we're gonna hang if you want to stop by. And 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.360 eventually everybody started stopping by, So if you will start 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.040 trickling in like a dinner or something. Dinner, Really, Christmas 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.000 was I think the main thing our blended family really 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.200 started to attach to become our thing that we did. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.840 I love She's the Queen of Christmas. By the way, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.079 if you like Christmas forgot about it, Amy's the queen 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:48.080 and so she always did Christmas huge and us kids 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.720 were what is Christmas like you guys, because we're going 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.880 to get some amazing presents. A little bride is always good. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.120 Is that what the Christmas was like? Big presents, big 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:04.160 dinner man, Yeah, breakfast, it's uh, Christmas at dad Amy's 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.960 is all about the breakfast. Christmas Eve will kind of 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.240 all do other things with our other family members, but 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:16.440 Christmas morning is where it's at and Dad um makes 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.440 a lot of breakfast. Just what do you eat, Well, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.560 it's a lot of It's a lot of breakfast meats. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.760 He's a carnivore. It's like sausage and bacon. And are 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:30.040 you a carnivore. I do like, I love bacon. Bacon 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.199 is it's a big deal. It's very important. Oh yeah, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.680 it should be its own food group. I kind of agree. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.440 Out of all the meats, bacon to me is the 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.560 best meat that everyone. It's so it just goes with everything. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.199 I love pigs, So I hate thank you about where 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.840 it comes from. But we don't have to do that. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.199 We do that today. Yeah, Christmas, h Christmas involves a 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.040 lot of bacon. It's the way it should be. And 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.840 so through all those years of getting to know each 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.360 other under the Christmas tree, I mean, we have a 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.520 we have a eight. We have a great thing now. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.319 And of course it's changing because now um all his 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:10.400 kids were we're grown and I'm starting a next generation. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.920 My son is going to be three in a couple 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.600 of months. And so the magic of Santa's like being 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.640 reborn again. It's pretty cool. It's amazing. How did that 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.199 feel to have the transition of obviously you're in high 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.120 school already an awkward time. Here comes a new step mom, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.480 don't like her. Then you start liking here, and then 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.439 all of a sudden, now you're on tour with her, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.720 and then you put out your EP and she said, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:40.640 she said something. I got this quote too. That was um, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.880 she said. Jenny and I were camping at Bonnary for 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.520 the first time, she played me a work tape of 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.559 your shadow. This song stopped me my tracks. She had 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.280 waited months to play it for anyone, and it was 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.400 a mystery to me. And that moment I knew she 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.680 was a creative force to be reckoned with. Her lyrics 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.959 are thought provoking, her melodies effortless and haunting. I'm so 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.199 I am a true fan. How does that feel in this? 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.200 I feel all warm and fuzzy on me? But how 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.280 does that feel to have, all of a sudden written 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.320 this art and to be touring with Amy? Now? What 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:16.440 a whirlwind life? Yeah, it kind of happened suddenly. Her 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.439 backup singer, who had been working with her for years 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.920 and years, was expecting and about to give birth to 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.679 her first child, and Amy had all these dates on 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.120 the books, and there was no way this girl was 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.040 gonna be able to work, And so they asked me 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.920 to come in as a substitute. And I thought I 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.960 would be working with her for maybe three or four months, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:43.920 and Kim's baby came, and then Kim was ready to 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.360 come back on the road, but they kept calling me 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.720 as well, and so they just added me into the band. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.840 And that was about seven years ago. And I have 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:02.280 to give Amy so much credit for really new confidence 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.400 that I have in myself as a performer. Really that 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:10.600 before Amy, I didn't really have a lot of stage time. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.880 You know, I've got to practice with my dad here 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.680 and there on the road in the summer. Um, But 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.440 I wasn't in a situation where I'm on stage night 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.560 after night singing the same songs with the same people 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.319 and getting that musical group. And I got to do 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.040 that with her. And the singer that I was before 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.440 I started working with her and the singer that I 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:41.240 am now I think are two different singers. And um, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.600 it means so much to hear that quote, um, those 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.120 kind words from her about my writing as well. I 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.760 really respect her and her creative brain. Um, because it's 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.240 it's not a typical. She doesn't write a typical song 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.720 all the time. I mean, her music stands out to me. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.400 And it's true. I wrote that song Your Shadow, and 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.400 it was so where did that moment come from? It 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.840 was so just raw and it makes me feel naked 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.720 to share those words. To be honest, I wrote that 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.679 song with some friends of mine that while we lived 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.400 in the same neighborhood at the time, and I would 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.000 walk down to their house all the time and just 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.640 boo hoo and sob like all my worries to them. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.040 And one day I'm just we're on the subject of 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:34.720 being Vince Gill's daughter, and I'm just pouring out my 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.520 heart and I just heard, you know, scribbles on a 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:45.760 on a journal. And the next morning she Dianna Um 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.120 Diana Walker is her name, she called me and said, hey, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.880 come over here, I want to play you something. And 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.040 she had these chords and these lyrics to this verse, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.800 and it just made me cry. And so we finished 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.640 writing the song with her husband, Rick Beresford, and I 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.360 was terrified to play it for anybody. So it was 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.640 so it was just so did you think someone would 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.000 be mad at you? I was so exposed. What did 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.080 you think was going to happen? Because that, to me 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.800 is the best songwriting every when you write something so real, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.240 but usually it does involve other people, you know, because 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.280 we have life experiences that are affective other people. So 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.520 how do you present this song? I almost wasn't going to, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.000 and so because I trust Amy, because she's family, I 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.080 played it for her while we're at Bonnaroo. That's just 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.160 like on my phone and she's like, oh my goodness, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:41.040 I love this. This is so great, and I'm like, oh, well, thanks. Well. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.560 Then she and I were performing. It was a right 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.480 around in Peoria, Illinois, and she begged me to play 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.800 the song. So I worked it up with a keyboard 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:57.320 player and I got a Really I was kind of 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.760 surprised by the reaction that I got from the crowd. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.880 It was that they loved and they just loved it. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.680 It was and I felt accepted. And there's a line 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.920 in that song, you know I'm talking about my one 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.080 of my biggest fears is I'll pour my heart out 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.800 and no one will care. And that's really the ultimate. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.880 You just give it all and no one's going to 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.960 give a ship. That's what I mean. Everyone, here's my eyes. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.680 Because it is so vulnerable to be an artist is 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.560 so vulnerable, and when you're truly putting your words out there, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.760 in your heart out there, you basically are standing naked 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.880 saying do you like me exactly? And that's crazy that 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.280 everything the art is crazy. It's it's so hard and 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.920 I almost didn't want to record this song or share it. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.120 And I was kind of asking, Amy, does this song 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.920 kind of only belong on my first project? She's like, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.880 I think so. So I shared it with my dad. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.880 I just emailed it to him. I just emailed it. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.520 Was like, were you nervous? Just listen to whatever, Just 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.640 listen to it whenever you wanted. Were you so nervous? 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.920 I was. I didn't know how he's going to react, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.200 if he was going to be upset with himself. I 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.120 didn't know if he's going to take it negatively. And 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.320 when he called me to discuss the song, all we 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.440 talked about was how well crafted he thought that it was. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:19.360 We didn't go into all those other layers. Um, it 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.440 was just about the song. How he thought it was 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.760 really well done and we should record it, and we did, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.640 and he produced your Your EP right, he produced the 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.040 house sessions. He put so much love into this project. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.640 I'm so proud. How full circle though, to grow up, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.440 you know, living with vincec Goo's your dad, finding your 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.520 own way musically, and now you're making your own music 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.720 from your heart. You wrote four five out of these 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.480 six songs and now he's producing them and like doing 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:50.960 it from your perspective, your musical inclination. How amazing is 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.560 that full circle moment. It's really great. We'd never worked 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.480 that closely together before, and it was really neat to 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.760 see his process in the studio. How well respected he 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.960 is in this town and with everybody that he works with. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.840 Oh man, And it was hard to it was hard 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.399 to speak up and say, hey, what do we what 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.080 do we try this? Because whatever Vince Gill says, everyone's 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.959 gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. And it has 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.120 a great idea because his instincts are so fantastic. It's 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.880 so weird to refer to him by his name. By 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.800 the way I just said that was like, mm, that 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.720 didn't feel right. He's Dad, um, But man, I still 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.480 get the same feeling I think a lot a lot 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.480 of artists get when they work with him, those nerves 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.040 that a singer gets when they're walking into the studio 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.280 and Dad's about to produce them, and you just kind 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.240 of tense of Okay, you want to be perfect for him, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.359 you want to impress him. We all share it, Dad 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.240 or not. You know, he's he's the type of person 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.760 that you you want his respect, you know, but at 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.520 the time he doesn't. He doesn't act like this big 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.960 like no, it all a whole you know. He's he's kind, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.720 he is patient, you know, and he was really great 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.520 to work with and I learned a lot. We when 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.760 we started this interview with the guy who makes us up. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.639 His name is Mike, and you were like, Mike with 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.560 Mike's and I was like, that's how I introduced you, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.040 Mike with Mikes. And you're like, I actually sorry I 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.359 said that because you probably get so. I saw it 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.800 all over his face because you're like, oh, you're identified 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.520 Mike with Mike, and you're like, I actually feel that 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.000 same way as being identified with one thing. It's like 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.040 that's your thing, like this everybody in your life approaches 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:47.080 you and says the same thing. So Mike with Mike. Dude, 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.520 I get it. We're living the same life. But it's 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.320 unavoidable almost to talk about it. On some level. I feel, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.000 do you feel like it, because it's not like you 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.080 want to avoid it. No, I don't want to avoid it. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.640 I'm proud of where I come from. But there does 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.920 come a point where it's just you can only take 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.520 so much, and and Dad is so um he's so 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:15.360 talented and gifted and kind, and he's affected a lot 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.480 of people. And it's no surprise that people who are 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.640 touched by that want to talk about it and they 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.560 want to share it. And of course that's the one 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.720 thing that we have in common, so of course they 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.080 want to talk about it. I get it, but there 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.400 are I apologize if you're like that one percent person 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.320 who gets me on that day where I just have 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.040 to roll my eyes because we're talking about my dad again. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.720 You know, it makes so much sense. Oh, it's so 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.920 funny sometimes. Okay, I wasn't. I was at a gig 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.720 in Sacramento recently and I was in a shuttle with 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.320 a bunch of people. We had all performed at this 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.960 golf tournament, and there was a gentleman riding along and 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.280 I think he'd had a couple of drinks and he 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.199 kind of leaned up and he's like, all right, can 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.320 I ask you a personal question? And I was like, yeah, man, shoot. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:10.119 He's like, all right, pure Prairie League your dad, Okay 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.120 that song Amy, And I'm like, dude, what does this 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.359 have to do with me? I only ask because you 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.400 said this was a personal question. Really, you just want 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.240 to ask me a dad question. And I felt so bad. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:26.760 I think he kind of you're humans, was like, oh, like, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.000 by the way, he did not sing the song Amy, 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.160 I'm sorry to crush your dreams and everything, and everybody 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.439 laughed and and everybody got it. But man, there's so 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.680 sometimes you're just like you have it's you're human, I know, yeah, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.400 but you know it's obvious. I'm crazy about my dad. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.040 It's obviously so proud of all of his accomplishments. And 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.240 but you're also at a place where and I think 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.440 this House Sessions is such an amazing place for you 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.439 because you're at a place where you've had all of 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.119 this almost like school. You know, you grew up at 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.720 a front row ticket to the country music industry. You 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.960 have seen it all more than anyone really has, and 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.840 you've seen ends and out. You know what the life 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.400 looks like, you know what road looks like. You know, 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.520 you know you have been to school, and now you 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.920 are emerging as your own artists, and you have these 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:21.000 amazing songs that reflect you and they're so personal. Like 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.199 another one I want to talk about is Lonely Lost Me, 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.640 which I think is one of the sweetest songs ever. 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.439 Talked to me about this song. Okay, this song I 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:35.119 wrote with my gal pal Brianna Tyson and Jonathan Hanby, 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:39.280 who actually plays with Amy a lot, and the three 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.400 of us got together and we wrote this a long 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.120 time ago, and it was one of those writing sessions 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.120 where the three of us didn't really know each other 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.159 very well, so we're kind of just it felt like 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.960 one of those first dates, you know, when you get 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.560 in a writing room with somebody and you're like and 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.560 you're about to have to expose your whole soul and yeah, 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.040 you're like just stripped out. It's been like a one 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:06.600 night stand. Here, what's meat? And like what I got? 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.119 What a rocket? Totally writing sessions are crazy like that. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.120 It's odd. It felt like one of those days. And 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.560 so I hope you dig it. Yeah, I don't know, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.679 call me, we'll do it again. It's so weird. I know, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.360 I know it was one of it. I like, speaking 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.080 of one night stands. I like three ways better than 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:35.919 two ways. Okay, um, And so the three of us, Oh, 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:41.200 we had a great day. Jonathan is a great piano player, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.320 and he was laying down this groove, and Brianne and 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.679 I were trading ideas back and forth. And it wasn't 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:52.919 until after the song was born and my son was 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.000 born after that, and I was like, oh, this song 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.199