Speaker 1: Carola, She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
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Speaker 1: Carala this time Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music, I
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Speaker 1: adults having adult conversations, so there could be adult content.
Speaker 1: You guys am so excited. Jenny Gills in the House
Speaker 1: what would? And speaking of House, her new EP, The
Speaker 1: House As is so good. It's so real, so honest.
Speaker 1: My favorite song on it is called Your Shadow, where
Speaker 1: she addresses what it's like to live in the shadow
Speaker 1: of her father, Vince gil She's so real and she's
Speaker 1: just such a cool girl. I cannot wait for you
Speaker 1: all to hear this interview, So y'all get excited. Here's
Speaker 1: Jenny Gilm. So happy to have you. We've been trying
Speaker 1: to do this interview for a little while and I'm
Speaker 1: glad we've finally got it worked out and we get
Speaker 1: to do this. This is beautiful. Isn't this space gorgeous?
Speaker 1: This is beautiful. I kind of want to live here.
Speaker 1: You can move in, can I They've got a bathroom,
Speaker 1: no shower. Okay, maybe not details. Maybe I'll just visit often,
Speaker 1: visit often. You play some music anytime you want, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I want to start off with a little bit
Speaker 1: of rapid fire. I'm gonna ask you a question and
Speaker 1: you say the first thing that comes to mind, Oh,
Speaker 1: this scares me already. You're gonna do okay, music, singing,
Speaker 1: same my dad, happiness, my son, little Wyatt, he's three,
Speaker 1: he's three. He makes me so happy and crazy all
Speaker 1: at the same time. Right, But that's what toddlers are
Speaker 1: supposed to do. That is what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about your dad and why
Speaker 1: at these two things you just mentioned, and two of
Speaker 1: the songs that you just wrote, which would be on
Speaker 1: your new album, E The House Sessions. Okay, So one
Speaker 1: last word, what I success to you? Oh that's going.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a hard one. That's a that's a word
Speaker 1: I have to go to therapy over. I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: What have you learned in therapy about success. Well, what
Speaker 1: I'd like to learn in therapy about success is so much.
Speaker 1: Really success for me, I think is um It's hard
Speaker 1: to describe. I think it's this unattainable goal because a
Speaker 1: lot of people in my life currently are ridiculously six scessful.
Speaker 1: Like we're talking twenty one Grammys sitting on a shelf.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's my dad. That's what I have to
Speaker 1: compare to. Is it Is it like that? I've always wondered,
Speaker 1: is it like that? Do you feel that you wrote
Speaker 1: a song called the Shadow, which I love on your
Speaker 1: new EP from the House Sessions. Yes, I tried to
Speaker 1: um kind of one Grammy because people are lucky to
Speaker 1: get one, well even to like being the plane where'll
Speaker 1: be nominated exactly. It's like, how does this even happen?
Speaker 1: How does that happen? It's ridiculous. You have to be
Speaker 1: brilliantly gifted, I guess, which is what he is. And
Speaker 1: it's fantastic and also very frustrating at the same time
Speaker 1: when you're interested in having a music career, how do
Speaker 1: you deal with that struggle? Sometimes I deal with it great,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm just like a mess on the floor
Speaker 1: in tears and I can't function. But because on one
Speaker 1: hand I was telling you earlier I was in a
Speaker 1: band with Taylor Inn and Jennifer Wayne who also come
Speaker 1: from legacy John Wayne and Loretta Lynne. On one handed,
Speaker 1: like a great door opener because you automatically get into
Speaker 1: the room, I guess, or I'm not into the room,
Speaker 1: but like people will pay attention. On one hand, people
Speaker 1: are automatically curious Larette Lene. I think told Taylor I
Speaker 1: can get you in the door, but you have to
Speaker 1: keep yourself there or something. And that's the truth. That
Speaker 1: that's the truth. I mean, people are curious enough to say, hey,
Speaker 1: what's this all about? And if you're good enough, then
Speaker 1: then the rest doesn't matter. So that's pressure too, because
Speaker 1: you're like, what do you even standard? Because twenty one Grammys, like,
Speaker 1: how could anyone be that good? It's a pretty it's
Speaker 1: a pretty big standard. And I guess when I have
Speaker 1: to continue to tell myself I keep reminding myself, is
Speaker 1: that I am me, I sound like me. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those um kids who sounds exactly like
Speaker 1: their parents UM, which I'm grateful for. I think I
Speaker 1: have my own style and my own thing, and and
Speaker 1: my husband, who's also very successful in the music industry. UM,
Speaker 1: on the publishing side of things. He he tells me, Babe,
Speaker 1: what you got to remember is that you're already successful.
Speaker 1: You put out this music and people bought it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many bought it. The fact is that
Speaker 1: there were people out there who cared enough to spend
Speaker 1: their money. And that's I agree with that that success
Speaker 1: And UM, I have to redefine the word um because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win twenty one Grammys, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that I'm not going to be successful in music.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. And actually I was watching a video
Speaker 1: of you and your dad and he said something. What
Speaker 1: is his quote? He said, UM, most people have their
Speaker 1: results in something, had the results in something to be
Speaker 1: the definition of something. And I think that's backwards. If
Speaker 1: it's great when you finished it, it's still great whether
Speaker 1: anyone bought it or not. And I really think that
Speaker 1: is so true. And that's what you just said. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: He told me this the other day. I was driving
Speaker 1: to a show and I was kind of nervous about
Speaker 1: it because I've just started accompanying myself on guitar and
Speaker 1: it makes me so nervous to do. Go for it,
Speaker 1: and I'm just going for it. On put yourself out
Speaker 1: there and go for it. And and I was. I
Speaker 1: was talking to him on the phone driving down the
Speaker 1: interstate and it's like, just wish me luck, and he said, Bud,
Speaker 1: I just want you to know I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: And do it because you love it. Don't do it
Speaker 1: based on some kind of outcome. Because he's right, the
Speaker 1: outcome doesn't matters. You got to do it because you
Speaker 1: love doing it. And we all have our own destiny.
Speaker 1: I really do believe that, and we all are meant
Speaker 1: to affect in the way that we are. And it's
Speaker 1: all relative of how big or small it is, you
Speaker 1: know exactly it really is if you can reach that
Speaker 1: one person that's really struggling right now, and that's that's
Speaker 1: all that matters. I got a Facebook message recently from
Speaker 1: somebody who was recovering from a massive surgery and they
Speaker 1: were just saying, I put on your music and it
Speaker 1: makes me feel better. And I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I've done it. I've made it. That's the
Speaker 1: real that's what really matters. The awards and all that
Speaker 1: stuff that we get dolled up for it's fun, but
Speaker 1: it's reaching people's hearts. That's the that's the good stuff
Speaker 1: right there. I love that. So you also toured background
Speaker 1: singing with immigrant your sister stepmom, which is cool stepmom
Speaker 1: to have. She's the most awesome stepmom. I will be honest.
Speaker 1: I tried to hate her. I was I was gonna
Speaker 1: wonder because you also have an amazing mom. Your mom
Speaker 1: is You're like, she's a sweetheart, cowboys sweetheart, rodeo sweetheart,
Speaker 1: sweethearts of the rodeo. Yeah, her and her sister are
Speaker 1: the sweethearts of the rodeo? Is that? So you have
Speaker 1: this awesome mom and then you get this super famous
Speaker 1: stepmom who's awesome too. How do you hate someone like that? Well,
Speaker 1: you don't. I mean I tried to so bad when
Speaker 1: when dad and Amy got together, I was in high school,
Speaker 1: so already an awkward, horrible time, and um, thing was
Speaker 1: happening so quickly, and and the normal teenager instinct is
Speaker 1: to be defensive and no, I hete and but I couldn't.
Speaker 1: She's she handled it really well. She would just always
Speaker 1: create an environment for everybody to get together. And she
Speaker 1: was never pushy about it. Really, she wouldn't make you
Speaker 1: feel guilty if you didn't show up. She's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hang if you want to stop by. And
Speaker 1: eventually everybody started stopping by, So if you will start
Speaker 1: trickling in like a dinner or something. Dinner, Really, Christmas
Speaker 1: was I think the main thing our blended family really
Speaker 1: started to attach to become our thing that we did.
Speaker 1: I love She's the Queen of Christmas. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you like Christmas forgot about it, Amy's the queen
Speaker 1: and so she always did Christmas huge and us kids
Speaker 1: were what is Christmas like you guys, because we're going
Speaker 1: to get some amazing presents. A little bride is always good.
Speaker 1: Is that what the Christmas was like? Big presents, big
Speaker 1: dinner man, Yeah, breakfast, it's uh, Christmas at dad Amy's
Speaker 1: is all about the breakfast. Christmas Eve will kind of
Speaker 1: all do other things with our other family members, but
Speaker 1: Christmas morning is where it's at and Dad um makes
Speaker 1: a lot of breakfast. Just what do you eat, Well,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of It's a lot of breakfast meats.
Speaker 1: He's a carnivore. It's like sausage and bacon. And are
Speaker 1: you a carnivore. I do like, I love bacon. Bacon
Speaker 1: is it's a big deal. It's very important. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be its own food group. I kind of agree.
Speaker 1: Out of all the meats, bacon to me is the
Speaker 1: best meat that everyone. It's so it just goes with everything.
Speaker 1: I love pigs, So I hate thank you about where
Speaker 1: it comes from. But we don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: We do that today. Yeah, Christmas, h Christmas involves a
Speaker 1: lot of bacon. It's the way it should be. And
Speaker 1: so through all those years of getting to know each
Speaker 1: other under the Christmas tree, I mean, we have a
Speaker 1: we have a eight. We have a great thing now.
Speaker 1: And of course it's changing because now um all his
Speaker 1: kids were we're grown and I'm starting a next generation.
Speaker 1: My son is going to be three in a couple
Speaker 1: of months. And so the magic of Santa's like being
Speaker 1: reborn again. It's pretty cool. It's amazing. How did that
Speaker 1: feel to have the transition of obviously you're in high
Speaker 1: school already an awkward time. Here comes a new step mom,
Speaker 1: don't like her. Then you start liking here, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you're on tour with her,
Speaker 1: and then you put out your EP and she said,
Speaker 1: she said something. I got this quote too. That was um,
Speaker 1: she said. Jenny and I were camping at Bonnary for
Speaker 1: the first time, she played me a work tape of
Speaker 1: your shadow. This song stopped me my tracks. She had
Speaker 1: waited months to play it for anyone, and it was
Speaker 1: a mystery to me. And that moment I knew she
Speaker 1: was a creative force to be reckoned with. Her lyrics
Speaker 1: are thought provoking, her melodies effortless and haunting. I'm so
Speaker 1: I am a true fan. How does that feel in this?
Speaker 1: I feel all warm and fuzzy on me? But how
Speaker 1: does that feel to have, all of a sudden written
Speaker 1: this art and to be touring with Amy? Now? What
Speaker 1: a whirlwind life? Yeah, it kind of happened suddenly. Her
Speaker 1: backup singer, who had been working with her for years
Speaker 1: and years, was expecting and about to give birth to
Speaker 1: her first child, and Amy had all these dates on
Speaker 1: the books, and there was no way this girl was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to work, And so they asked me
Speaker 1: to come in as a substitute. And I thought I
Speaker 1: would be working with her for maybe three or four months,
Speaker 1: and Kim's baby came, and then Kim was ready to
Speaker 1: come back on the road, but they kept calling me
Speaker 1: as well, and so they just added me into the band.
Speaker 1: And that was about seven years ago. And I have
Speaker 1: to give Amy so much credit for really new confidence
Speaker 1: that I have in myself as a performer. Really that
Speaker 1: before Amy, I didn't really have a lot of stage time.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got to practice with my dad here
Speaker 1: and there on the road in the summer. Um, But
Speaker 1: I wasn't in a situation where I'm on stage night
Speaker 1: after night singing the same songs with the same people
Speaker 1: and getting that musical group. And I got to do
Speaker 1: that with her. And the singer that I was before
Speaker 1: I started working with her and the singer that I
Speaker 1: am now I think are two different singers. And um,
Speaker 1: it means so much to hear that quote, um, those
Speaker 1: kind words from her about my writing as well. I
Speaker 1: really respect her and her creative brain. Um, because it's
Speaker 1: it's not a typical. She doesn't write a typical song
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, her music stands out to me.
Speaker 1: And it's true. I wrote that song Your Shadow, and
Speaker 1: it was so where did that moment come from? It
Speaker 1: was so just raw and it makes me feel naked
Speaker 1: to share those words. To be honest, I wrote that
Speaker 1: song with some friends of mine that while we lived
Speaker 1: in the same neighborhood at the time, and I would
Speaker 1: walk down to their house all the time and just
Speaker 1: boo hoo and sob like all my worries to them.
Speaker 1: And one day I'm just we're on the subject of
Speaker 1: being Vince Gill's daughter, and I'm just pouring out my
Speaker 1: heart and I just heard, you know, scribbles on a
Speaker 1: on a journal. And the next morning she Dianna Um
Speaker 1: Diana Walker is her name, she called me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: come over here, I want to play you something. And
Speaker 1: she had these chords and these lyrics to this verse,
Speaker 1: and it just made me cry. And so we finished
Speaker 1: writing the song with her husband, Rick Beresford, and I
Speaker 1: was terrified to play it for anybody. So it was
Speaker 1: so it was just so did you think someone would
Speaker 1: be mad at you? I was so exposed. What did
Speaker 1: you think was going to happen? Because that, to me
Speaker 1: is the best songwriting every when you write something so real,
Speaker 1: but usually it does involve other people, you know, because
Speaker 1: we have life experiences that are affective other people. So
Speaker 1: how do you present this song? I almost wasn't going to,
Speaker 1: and so because I trust Amy, because she's family, I
Speaker 1: played it for her while we're at Bonnaroo. That's just
Speaker 1: like on my phone and she's like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: I love this. This is so great, and I'm like, oh, well, thanks. Well.
Speaker 1: Then she and I were performing. It was a right
Speaker 1: around in Peoria, Illinois, and she begged me to play
Speaker 1: the song. So I worked it up with a keyboard
Speaker 1: player and I got a Really I was kind of
Speaker 1: surprised by the reaction that I got from the crowd.
Speaker 1: It was that they loved and they just loved it.
Speaker 1: It was and I felt accepted. And there's a line
Speaker 1: in that song, you know I'm talking about my one
Speaker 1: of my biggest fears is I'll pour my heart out
Speaker 1: and no one will care. And that's really the ultimate.
Speaker 1: You just give it all and no one's going to
Speaker 1: give a ship. That's what I mean. Everyone, here's my eyes.
Speaker 1: Because it is so vulnerable to be an artist is
Speaker 1: so vulnerable, and when you're truly putting your words out there,
Speaker 1: in your heart out there, you basically are standing naked
Speaker 1: saying do you like me exactly? And that's crazy that
Speaker 1: everything the art is crazy. It's it's so hard and
Speaker 1: I almost didn't want to record this song or share it.
Speaker 1: And I was kind of asking, Amy, does this song
Speaker 1: kind of only belong on my first project? She's like,
Speaker 1: I think so. So I shared it with my dad.
Speaker 1: I just emailed it to him. I just emailed it.
Speaker 1: Was like, were you nervous? Just listen to whatever, Just
Speaker 1: listen to it whenever you wanted. Were you so nervous?
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't know how he's going to react,
Speaker 1: if he was going to be upset with himself. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if he's going to take it negatively. And
Speaker 1: when he called me to discuss the song, all we
Speaker 1: talked about was how well crafted he thought that it was.
Speaker 1: We didn't go into all those other layers. Um, it
Speaker 1: was just about the song. How he thought it was
Speaker 1: really well done and we should record it, and we did,
Speaker 1: and he produced your Your EP right, he produced the
Speaker 1: house sessions. He put so much love into this project.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud. How full circle though, to grow up,
Speaker 1: you know, living with vincec Goo's your dad, finding your
Speaker 1: own way musically, and now you're making your own music
Speaker 1: from your heart. You wrote four five out of these
Speaker 1: six songs and now he's producing them and like doing
Speaker 1: it from your perspective, your musical inclination. How amazing is
Speaker 1: that full circle moment. It's really great. We'd never worked
Speaker 1: that closely together before, and it was really neat to
Speaker 1: see his process in the studio. How well respected he
Speaker 1: is in this town and with everybody that he works with.
Speaker 1: Oh man, And it was hard to it was hard
Speaker 1: to speak up and say, hey, what do we what
Speaker 1: do we try this? Because whatever Vince Gill says, everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. And it has
Speaker 1: a great idea because his instincts are so fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: so weird to refer to him by his name. By
Speaker 1: the way I just said that was like, mm, that
Speaker 1: didn't feel right. He's Dad, um, But man, I still
Speaker 1: get the same feeling I think a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of artists get when they work with him, those nerves
Speaker 1: that a singer gets when they're walking into the studio
Speaker 1: and Dad's about to produce them, and you just kind
Speaker 1: of tense of Okay, you want to be perfect for him,
Speaker 1: you want to impress him. We all share it, Dad
Speaker 1: or not. You know, he's he's the type of person
Speaker 1: that you you want his respect, you know, but at
Speaker 1: the time he doesn't. He doesn't act like this big
Speaker 1: like no, it all a whole you know. He's he's kind,
Speaker 1: he is patient, you know, and he was really great
Speaker 1: to work with and I learned a lot. We when
Speaker 1: we started this interview with the guy who makes us up.
Speaker 1: His name is Mike, and you were like, Mike with
Speaker 1: Mike's and I was like, that's how I introduced you,
Speaker 1: Mike with Mikes. And you're like, I actually sorry I
Speaker 1: said that because you probably get so. I saw it
Speaker 1: all over his face because you're like, oh, you're identified
Speaker 1: Mike with Mike, and you're like, I actually feel that
Speaker 1: same way as being identified with one thing. It's like
Speaker 1: that's your thing, like this everybody in your life approaches
Speaker 1: you and says the same thing. So Mike with Mike. Dude,
Speaker 1: I get it. We're living the same life. But it's
Speaker 1: unavoidable almost to talk about it. On some level. I feel,
Speaker 1: do you feel like it, because it's not like you
Speaker 1: want to avoid it. No, I don't want to avoid it.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of where I come from. But there does
Speaker 1: come a point where it's just you can only take
Speaker 1: so much, and and Dad is so um he's so
Speaker 1: talented and gifted and kind, and he's affected a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And it's no surprise that people who are
Speaker 1: touched by that want to talk about it and they
Speaker 1: want to share it. And of course that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that we have in common, so of course they
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I get it, but there
Speaker 1: are I apologize if you're like that one percent person
Speaker 1: who gets me on that day where I just have
Speaker 1: to roll my eyes because we're talking about my dad again.
Speaker 1: You know, it makes so much sense. Oh, it's so
Speaker 1: funny sometimes. Okay, I wasn't. I was at a gig
Speaker 1: in Sacramento recently and I was in a shuttle with
Speaker 1: a bunch of people. We had all performed at this
Speaker 1: golf tournament, and there was a gentleman riding along and
Speaker 1: I think he'd had a couple of drinks and he
Speaker 1: kind of leaned up and he's like, all right, can
Speaker 1: I ask you a personal question? And I was like, yeah, man, shoot.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, pure Prairie League your dad, Okay
Speaker 1: that song Amy, And I'm like, dude, what does this
Speaker 1: have to do with me? I only ask because you
Speaker 1: said this was a personal question. Really, you just want
Speaker 1: to ask me a dad question. And I felt so bad.
Speaker 1: I think he kind of you're humans, was like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: by the way, he did not sing the song Amy,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to crush your dreams and everything, and everybody
Speaker 1: laughed and and everybody got it. But man, there's so
Speaker 1: sometimes you're just like you have it's you're human, I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it's obvious. I'm crazy about my dad.
Speaker 1: It's obviously so proud of all of his accomplishments. And
Speaker 1: but you're also at a place where and I think
Speaker 1: this House Sessions is such an amazing place for you
Speaker 1: because you're at a place where you've had all of
Speaker 1: this almost like school. You know, you grew up at
Speaker 1: a front row ticket to the country music industry. You
Speaker 1: have seen it all more than anyone really has, and
Speaker 1: you've seen ends and out. You know what the life
Speaker 1: looks like, you know what road looks like. You know,
Speaker 1: you know you have been to school, and now you
Speaker 1: are emerging as your own artists, and you have these
Speaker 1: amazing songs that reflect you and they're so personal. Like
Speaker 1: another one I want to talk about is Lonely Lost Me,
Speaker 1: which I think is one of the sweetest songs ever.
Speaker 1: Talked to me about this song. Okay, this song I
Speaker 1: wrote with my gal pal Brianna Tyson and Jonathan Hanby,
Speaker 1: who actually plays with Amy a lot, and the three
Speaker 1: of us got together and we wrote this a long
Speaker 1: time ago, and it was one of those writing sessions
Speaker 1: where the three of us didn't really know each other
Speaker 1: very well, so we're kind of just it felt like
Speaker 1: one of those first dates, you know, when you get
Speaker 1: in a writing room with somebody and you're like and
Speaker 1: you're about to have to expose your whole soul and yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like just stripped out. It's been like a one
Speaker 1: night stand. Here, what's meat? And like what I got?
Speaker 1: What a rocket? Totally writing sessions are crazy like that.
Speaker 1: It's odd. It felt like one of those days. And
Speaker 1: so I hope you dig it. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: call me, we'll do it again. It's so weird. I know,
Speaker 1: I know it was one of it. I like, speaking
Speaker 1: of one night stands. I like three ways better than
Speaker 1: two ways. Okay, um, And so the three of us, Oh,
Speaker 1: we had a great day. Jonathan is a great piano player,
Speaker 1: and he was laying down this groove, and Brianne and
Speaker 1: I were trading ideas back and forth. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: until after the song was born and my son was
Speaker 1: born after that, and I was like, oh, this song
Speaker 1: feels like it's for him. It totally feels like you
Speaker 1: wrote it for him. And and he wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 1: in the world when coming. But yeah, and and we
Speaker 1: were listening to this EP and different mixes, and that's
Speaker 1: the first song on the EP, Lonely Lost Me. And
Speaker 1: every time it would end, Wyatt in the back of
Speaker 1: the car mole you wanted to hear that song over
Speaker 1: and over again. I'm like, it was for him. That's it.
Speaker 1: You're going to be my leading man in my little
Speaker 1: music video. Talk to me about motherhood? How is that girl?
Speaker 1: How much time do we have? Holy? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's mm hmm. Now, I grew up kind of a
Speaker 1: spoiled brat, well and only child. Only child. Well, I
Speaker 1: was raised an only child. Obviously. Now I'm part of
Speaker 1: a blended family and I have a brother and sisters now,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't inherit them until I was
Speaker 1: about eight nineteen years old, and so raised an only child,
Speaker 1: I never had to do a chore in my life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was a spoiled little rat, okay, and
Speaker 1: um like, it's great until you become an adult and
Speaker 1: then you're forced to have all these responsibilities and you're like,
Speaker 1: what is this? Okay, well, somebody show me how to
Speaker 1: work this washing machine because I really have no idea
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I actually asked my college roommate to
Speaker 1: show me how to do laundry. That's how that's how
Speaker 1: embarrassing it is. And the record, I still wash all
Speaker 1: my colors and white the other in one load every time.
Speaker 1: That's okay, right, just don't leave them in the washer
Speaker 1: for like three days because then they might start to that.
Speaker 1: But why it coming into my life? It cured that
Speaker 1: spoiled brat out of me real quick, like there that
Speaker 1: first year of motherhood. It's it's the hardest thing I
Speaker 1: will ever do in my life. What is that? What
Speaker 1: does it look like? I keep trying to ask people.
Speaker 1: It's gruesome. It's like no sleep, It's gruesome. No, like
Speaker 1: a horror movie. It really, I mean, without the blood
Speaker 1: and the guts. Well there's I mean, and you love
Speaker 1: it at the same it's not blood and guts it's
Speaker 1: just throw up in diarrhea and no sleep, and they
Speaker 1: don't really love you so much in the beginning, right,
Speaker 1: Like it takes a while for that little first smile,
Speaker 1: so you're kind of doing it. They say, like that
Speaker 1: first smile is actually just some kind of like reflex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: reflex exactly uncontrolled. It's just like I have to smile
Speaker 1: because my brain is making me. But you think, oh
Speaker 1: you reck nine finally it's a reflex, he was he,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is true with a lot
Speaker 1: of moms. I mean, the babies are used to the moms.
Speaker 1: I mean they just there's that bond there. And so
Speaker 1: there was a time where why it was not really
Speaker 1: interested in dad for a while. So I was the
Speaker 1: only one that could make him happy. And there's so
Speaker 1: much joy in that, that feeling of being like desired
Speaker 1: like that, there's nothing like it on planet Earth. But
Speaker 1: the fatigue, oh, there's there's nothing like it. You become
Speaker 1: you're not a human being anymore. You're like a zombie.
Speaker 1: It's like the walking dead. When does when does it lift?
Speaker 1: When do you start to see the little light peeking
Speaker 1: out from behind the cloud. Well, for me, it was
Speaker 1: about a year old, and I got to a point
Speaker 1: where I was I thought I was going to do
Speaker 1: something like drastic because I was um so lonely in
Speaker 1: my house to stay at home, mom, thing like you are.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's like a prison. You're like, it's like
Speaker 1: a prison on an island. It feels like all my
Speaker 1: young mom friends say that too. And to escape the prison,
Speaker 1: It's like, you might as well just stay there because
Speaker 1: all the crap you have to bring with you a
Speaker 1: mile down the road to the grocery store and carry
Speaker 1: it all around. No, Mom, help you bring me strawberries.
Speaker 1: It was about why. It was about a year old,
Speaker 1: and I said, I've got to do something. I gotta
Speaker 1: get out of the house, but something to keep getting
Speaker 1: me out of the house. You know what I did.
Speaker 1: I joined the y m c A. Yes, I joined
Speaker 1: the y m c A. I found this little class
Speaker 1: They're called Dance Blast. And tell me how that has
Speaker 1: changed your life, because I believe that an outlet like
Speaker 1: that is so necessary, especially when you're in jail on
Speaker 1: an island. Okay, so um, dance Blast literally saved my
Speaker 1: life in so many ways. You have no idea. The
Speaker 1: y m c A. By the way, They just have
Speaker 1: this place called y Play and you can drop your
Speaker 1: children off there. They'll just take your child as long
Speaker 1: as you it's like max two hours a day, but
Speaker 1: it's play. I just need an hour. Yeah. But then
Speaker 1: you can have the other article and just like sit
Speaker 1: on a bench if you want. You could just give
Speaker 1: them your baby, yeah and go into the little area
Speaker 1: with the coffee and the snacks and sit there and
Speaker 1: watch TV. That's what you need do that. You've got
Speaker 1: to have some time for yourself. You do. And that's
Speaker 1: what I learned is once you start taking care of
Speaker 1: yourself and everybody says the same thing, and you're like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's cliche for a reason it is, and then
Speaker 1: you do it and you're like, I'm a much better
Speaker 1: me because of get it. So I started shaking my
Speaker 1: little booty. What are you doing? Dance class? Because this
Speaker 1: is not just a regular dance class, you know, it's
Speaker 1: um you could say it's based on it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Zoomba. This particular dance blast. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to change from instructor to instructor. But the instructor that
Speaker 1: teaches my dance blast class, her name is a Lana.
Speaker 1: She's a rock star and she just takes it to
Speaker 1: the next level. It's like she'll go really ghetto on you,
Speaker 1: just like hip pop, and she will. She makes everybody
Speaker 1: to work. I mean, I'll just you're working on your twerk.
Speaker 1: You lift each but cheek individually. Oh now that's some
Speaker 1: advance working you might have. You might have to show
Speaker 1: me that I can't do because we're not doing that.
Speaker 1: That's that's advanced dance blass. It's working where you just
Speaker 1: shake it right down to working is where you're kind
Speaker 1: of get in that squat position and just like it
Speaker 1: all goes up and down. Does your husband's benefit from
Speaker 1: your dance class working, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: we should discuss any of that. To just keep that
Speaker 1: at home behind the bedroom door. I'll just say he
Speaker 1: hasn't asked me to quit taking the class. And I
Speaker 1: love how you're saying, because I have a love for
Speaker 1: hot yoga like you have for dance class. Originally you
Speaker 1: kind of started in back Oh yeah, I started in
Speaker 1: the back row of the class. I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 1: I felt all weird, and that's normal to go to
Speaker 1: an exercise class and feel sort of like out of place, Like,
Speaker 1: am I gonna suck? Because every think I'm yes, because
Speaker 1: everyone thinks that everyone's looking because you're looking at you,
Speaker 1: but nobody else is looking at you. No one cares,
Speaker 1: which is awesome. We're all ages, were all sizes, all colors,
Speaker 1: and we're all doing the same dance steps and we're
Speaker 1: all twerking and front. It is beautiful. I have a
Speaker 1: moment like that every now and then. We're all look
Speaker 1: around in my hot yoga class and every same thing,
Speaker 1: all walks of life, all everything you can imagine, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all in here, sweating it out and
Speaker 1: doing this together and it's awesome. And it's just started.
Speaker 1: The first few classes I took, I thought, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. This is way too hard, and I
Speaker 1: kept going back. It was the only reason I had
Speaker 1: to leave my house and have time just for me.
Speaker 1: And it's been almost two years later, and you're looking amazing,
Speaker 1: and I got all the baby weight off. I've just had.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people recently. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say, oh my god, I's look at man, says Kitty,
Speaker 1: because I'm not. But I've compared to where I was
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of I've done a lot of
Speaker 1: good work and I'm really proud of myself, how of you.
Speaker 1: And that's inspiring to new moms too, Just to put
Speaker 1: that out there, because I am all about I have
Speaker 1: a lot of young mom friends, and I think it
Speaker 1: is so crucial to take that time for yourself. It
Speaker 1: really is. It makes you a better you. Yeah, mentally,
Speaker 1: it really helped me. I mean exercise, I'm not a
Speaker 1: scientist or anything, but all that stuff they say it's
Speaker 1: true endorphins and they make you into happy people. I
Speaker 1: think it's a thing because I just I feel more
Speaker 1: positive when I go and I work out. I I'm
Speaker 1: more patient with Wyatt. I don't like flip my anger
Speaker 1: switch as quickly, and I just can handle things better.
Speaker 1: And now I have this little group of friends now
Speaker 1: and the community to go to. Yeah, we have adult conversation.
Speaker 1: It's so great. I'm just I feel really lucky that
Speaker 1: it's proud of you. I'm proud of you. We've gotta
Speaker 1: wrap up. I'm probably for a couple of things. One,
Speaker 1: finding your voice, making this EP that is so fantastic,
Speaker 1: having baby, finding time for yourself, and on top of that,
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone named you one of ten country artists to watch.
Speaker 1: What did you not know that I did? How amazing?
Speaker 1: Is that? It's pretty cool? How good did that feel
Speaker 1: to have that validation from one of the biggest like
Speaker 1: critique or what do they call them critique people? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this the whole um. The validation thing is something I'm
Speaker 1: constantly trying to attain, like, oh, you're You're only going
Speaker 1: to be a good enough singer until you get a
Speaker 1: record deal, and all these silly things that I put
Speaker 1: ahead of myself. And it's stuff like that you read
Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
Speaker 1: I'm in this group. And they chose me, like because
Speaker 1: they did not have to choose you didn't. That was
Speaker 1: because your music spote for itself, which to me, if
Speaker 1: I was you would be one of the most validating things.
Speaker 1: Was very validating, and um, I just I also feel
Speaker 1: validated and super cool. I I didn't feel cool before,
Speaker 1: but now that I've been on your show, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: pretty cool and I feel kind of like a rock
Speaker 1: star today. This is the stand. Once you make it
Speaker 1: to hypercane on me, it's it's only it's it's been
Speaker 1: a blast. I want to wrap up, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: place a couple of songs to a new ev right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I will attempt to stumble through which you know what,
Speaker 1: And everyone watching this podcast and listening is so proud
Speaker 1: of you for playing your guitar. Thank you. This is
Speaker 1: another chance just to start getting just to put it up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be so great. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: But I like to wrap up with leave your light
Speaker 1: so out of all of your amazing life, Like you
Speaker 1: have had such a big life to be so young,
Speaker 1: You've seen so much, live so much. What are some
Speaker 1: inspiration that you would like to share with people? Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, gracious, I guess. Um, now that I'm a
Speaker 1: mom and we just discussed this, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to uh nurture what you love and what your passions are. Um,
Speaker 1: it's okay to be yourself. Um, because everyone's different, everyone's unique,
Speaker 1: and it's okay to want to blend in. It's okay
Speaker 1: to want to stand out. But whatever your passions are,
Speaker 1: nurture those and the outcome can only be positive, kind
Speaker 1: of like a domino effect. If you're not even trying
Speaker 1: to make a positive difference. You will if you take
Speaker 1: care of yourself and do what you love and UM.
Speaker 1: That's what I've learned in my short what feels like
Speaker 1: a short thirty five years. You've packed a lot in there.
Speaker 1: Grow who And also, like I've come across um uh,
Speaker 1: several other artists who have these histories, these legacy artists,
Speaker 1: and they might feel a little paralyzed or like they're
Speaker 1: living in the shadow of parents or grandparents or um,
Speaker 1: some awful like reality show history that they're trying to escape. UM.
Speaker 1: As long as you are being authentic and and um
Speaker 1: and sharing your gift, nobody is really going to care
Speaker 1: about that history because they just want to connect with you.
Speaker 1: And I think if we're all just in the moment
Speaker 1: and taking care of ourselves, how can it go wrong? Okay,
Speaker 1: you are so wise? That was incredible? Was it? Because
Speaker 1: I was like feeling I was starting to feel like
Speaker 1: a little like, how much BS is this coming out
Speaker 1: of my mouth? No? No, that was so inspiring. I
Speaker 1: love that. Oh man, thank you for sharing that, thank
Speaker 1: you for having me, and thank you for getting able
Speaker 1: play some songs. So we're going to go listen to
Speaker 1: Jenny Gill play a couple of songs. Teal Audio's newest
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Speaker 1: and Jenny gill is about to place two songs. Tell
Speaker 1: us about this first one. This first one I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play is called Whiskey Words. It's one of the first
Speaker 1: songs that I completed as a songwriter, and it really
Speaker 1: made me want to keep writing songs. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: h happenen haven't seen full Holy so buddy, that's just
Speaker 1: not musta just a little more time, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I don't need to drink. Just on my way home
Speaker 1: spast for me. I think you don't stand this close.
Speaker 1: I almost the me non't whisper sounds so sweet, They're
Speaker 1: just whiskey y. I've already high. That's just whiskey toad.
Speaker 1: It stands like your you don't care father, how badly
Speaker 1: drink your scuse no montratning me and hell love the night.
Speaker 1: You still feel the same in Monney Height, Then give
Speaker 1: me comee. You both know you won't. They're just whiskey
Speaker 1: at I've all had. He ha, that's just whiskey tone.
Speaker 1: Stars like you'll long. You don't care about how badly
Speaker 1: to drink your whisky words. Don't even try flatter me.
Speaker 1: It's what you say. It's just whiskey ws that I've
Speaker 1: bart and he had. That's just whiskey tone. Stars like
Speaker 1: you're walking you'll talk and covering them how badly to
Speaker 1: drink your whisky words. I won't drink you all escape what.
Speaker 1: I won't drink your what? That was amazing? Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I love your high range. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I was a first soprano in the high school choir,
Speaker 1: so I'm using it to my vantage. Yeah, okay, see,
Speaker 1: I have one more song for us. I do want
Speaker 1: to play a song I wrote for my husband. Um,
Speaker 1: this idea really came out of his mouth. We were
Speaker 1: laying on the beach and Jamaica on our honeymoon and
Speaker 1: I was asking him how he was feeling, and he
Speaker 1: was like, are you kidding me? Baby? Look the loving
Speaker 1: you landed me, and I just was instead of going oh,
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, oh my god, what a fantastic song. Title.
Speaker 1: That is so I came home and I wrote it
Speaker 1: with with our good buddy Andy Dak can't can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear the quiller you man, be they in the
Speaker 1: sad you mundy the soul treaty guys, some blue sky
Speaker 1: sipping on by time. Let's take a long stroll down
Speaker 1: the beach. Come all the baby and dig your toes
Speaker 1: and then be ice accus mounting me can't stop back
Speaker 1: and the willow you man, and being I was a fool.
Speaker 1: The bird fly around in sircle's been by in fives,
Speaker 1: Then a feeling die I could wait and get my
Speaker 1: feet over the grounds now plate I foundy see side
Speaker 1: her band of holding you to me, hoping the twilight
Speaker 1: chicken in a sweet time, good will loving you let me.
Speaker 1: I was a clue blueper line around it sircles with
Speaker 1: my head in the bogs. Then a feeling die you
Speaker 1: wait to get my feet on the ground. Me yea,
Speaker 1: I wasn't blue blue bline, hurt around in circles with
Speaker 1: my head in the clouds, and a feeling you were
Speaker 1: waiting in my feet on the ground. The quiller you
Speaker 1: landed me feeling I love It's few far in between
Speaker 1: I'm safe from all on. It feels good to be home.
Speaker 1: But we're loving you and I'm safe from it feels
Speaker 1: good to be home when you man didn't mean yea.
Speaker 1: That is the sweetest song ever in your voice. It's
Speaker 1: amazing on that song. Thank you so much. Beautiful love story. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't need to this. It's high school. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: My husband and I we grew up together, and the
Speaker 1: fact that we ended up together is actually really hilarious
Speaker 1: to my seventeen year old self. I show you, um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's He's a big inspiration to a lot
Speaker 1: of what I do, so I was happy to write
Speaker 1: that one for him. I love that. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: House Sessions, everyone go get it from Jenny Gill. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great idea. I think so too, Carola.
Speaker 1: I know you love that interview from Jenny. She's such
Speaker 1: an interesting, amazing girl. I'll get her ep The Sessions.
Speaker 1: It's so good. Next week I had Brandy Cyrus joining me.
Speaker 1: Brandy Cyrus is a model, a DJ. She loves horses.
Speaker 1: She also has a new show on Bravo with her
Speaker 1: mother called Cyrus Versus Cyrus, which takes me to the
Speaker 1: fact that she's in one of America's most famous families,
Speaker 1: the Cyrus family. We talk all about that with That's
Speaker 1: like growing up in that family with Billy Rays your dad.
Speaker 1: Miley's your sister. She has done so much of her
Speaker 1: life and she is just one of the most engaging,
Speaker 1: interesting people. You meet her and you feel like you've
Speaker 1: been best friends forever. So you, guys, get excited. Brandy
Speaker 1: Cyrus is joining me next week. Y'all. Don't forget to subscribe.