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Speaker 1: The volume, What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: and our podcast How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is

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Speaker 1: having a great day, morning, night, whenever you may be

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Speaker 1: listening to this. I just watched Monday Night football. The

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Speaker 1: Harball Brothers duked it out and John came victorious. And

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Speaker 1: we will dive into Lamar Jackson, who I thought was

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Speaker 1: excellent tonight, Derrick Henry who was also excellent, and just

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Speaker 1: the Ravens got a very very impressive big win.

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Speaker 2: That was.

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Speaker 1: A big time win and now they got another big

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Speaker 1: the Steelers losing that Thursday night game. Are right in

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Speaker 1: the mix at eight and four, So we will discuss

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Speaker 1: the game as well as the Charger side some things

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Speaker 1: that some good and some bad. Big picture, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Gym's gonna win ten games.

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Speaker 2: That's the hell of a season.

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Speaker 1: With the Chargers out matched tonight as you should be.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens were favored on the road for

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Speaker 1: a reason. Do want to dive into some other NFL stories,

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Speaker 1: A couple other things just around the league. Will fly

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Speaker 1: around little penthouse in the outhouse and mail bag as well,

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Speaker 1: So fire in those dms at John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: We try to do a mail bag. We'll have one

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Speaker 1: more podcast before Thanksgiving, and then I think I'll do

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Speaker 1: something probably Thanksgiving night, reacting to some of the games,

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Speaker 1: at least for the weekend as well. So other than that,

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Speaker 1: have Cough on campus for Wednesday, talking a little college football.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, before we dive into some football.

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Speaker 2: If you want.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy that SOFI. It didn't hit me right away.

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait, they just played a game there last night,

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Speaker 1: So Kronkey kind of battled whether he would like change

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know the crazy part about the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: we just dive into the game because for three quarters

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Speaker 1: that thing was intense. It was seventeen sixteen going into

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Speaker 1: find some balance because this team is gonna be in

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Speaker 2: A couple other quick.

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Speaker 1: Topics around the National Football League. The Jets hired the

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Speaker 1: thirty third team, which is owned by Mike Tannenbaum, who

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Speaker 1: I personally know because when I got out of football,

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Speaker 1: he got out of football, he started to become an

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Speaker 1: agent and representing coaches and media people, and someone put

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Speaker 1: me in touch with him, and he represented me for

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Speaker 1: some radio contracts, not that I really needed it. It

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Speaker 1: was honestly kind of stupid on my part, but I

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Speaker 1: just got the Dome.

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Speaker 2: And you know.

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Speaker 1: He always he loves the business of football, obviously stayed

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Speaker 1: very close to it working at ESPN, and he clearly

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Speaker 1: likes Woody Johnson a lot, and Woody Johnson thinks highly

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Speaker 1: of him, him and Rick Spielman. Here's my one question, though,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Woody Johnson and my job.

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Speaker 2: Is basically just to own the team.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't I constantly especially this year when I came into

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Speaker 1: the year with like, I have a general manager on

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Speaker 1: a expiring contract. I think Douglas's contract. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the exact date, but whether it went through the draft,

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Speaker 1: like they weren't going to extend him, and a coach

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Speaker 1: that clearly would he didn't like. Wouldn't I be making

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Speaker 1: some phone calls, like just in the summer, or having

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Speaker 1: someone do that and just put together a list of

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Speaker 1: like here are the top five or six guys I

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Speaker 1: should interview for general manager and the top five or

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Speaker 1: six guys I should interview for head coaching jobs. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it should be that difficult. It really doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I often think this about athletic directors. If I'm the

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Speaker 1: athletic director at school X, that's power for right, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Texas or whether it's you know, pick a smaller

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Speaker 1: version at Texas.

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Speaker 2: Tech.

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Speaker 1: Isn't part of my job to be dialed in on

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Speaker 1: people I would want to interview if I have to

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Speaker 1: fire my coach or my coach leaves, so like, I

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Speaker 1: don't quite understand not feeling good about like who I'm

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Speaker 1: going after or at least have a list of people

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ledger coach and executive that I.

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Speaker 2: Want to talk to.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm so out of the loop because I'm

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Speaker 1: just a super rich guy that's not paying that much

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Speaker 1: attention beside to my team, Okay, somewhat understandable. Well, we

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Speaker 1: read that article from Diana Russini that when he had

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Speaker 1: the meeting trying to bench Aaron Rodgers, there are seventeen

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Speaker 1: people in the meeting room, and four or five of

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Speaker 1: them were like his cronies. Wouldn't what are they on

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Speaker 1: the payroll for? They can't just be selling season take

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Speaker 1: us twenty four to seven, three sixty five. Wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: have a right hand guy that I would give that

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Speaker 1: responsibility to. So I mean props to Tannebaum and Spielman for,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting hundreds of thousands of dollars I'm sure

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Speaker 1: to be part of this consulting operation. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's more reflection on the Jets. Shouldn't they be able

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Speaker 1: to figure out the right guys to be all this

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Speaker 1: isn't It's not like a cloak and dagger situation where

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Speaker 1: you're just in the dark, like what do I do?

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Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking clear, especially from a coaching standpoint, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: even the general manager standpoints, like who are some of

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Speaker 1: the best teams, the Ravens, the Eagles, Like when they

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Speaker 1: hired Joe Douglas, pretty self explanatory. He was the number

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Speaker 1: one guy or the right hand guy to Howie on

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Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. Usually what happens,

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Speaker 1: it's not often where you're like, well, uh, let's go

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Speaker 1: to the bottom three teams and let's interview their assistant gms,

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Speaker 1: Like the same guys get interviewed coming from successful operations,

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Speaker 1: so that one's a little bit of a head scratcher

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't pretend to be in the know enough,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen the Bears have done this before. People

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Speaker 1: love hiring consultants to help them out with their search. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're really just gonna funnel them guys that they like, Like,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Your job to hire the guy that you like?

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Speaker 1: Like, listen Josh Harris last year, what does he do

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00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: as Bob Myers, But like, Bob still hangs out them.

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Speaker 1: Bob didn't have a job. Bob's not like a consultant.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Bob, you just know people. Can you

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Speaker 1: help me run a search? Like you just come work

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Speaker 1: for us, not like consult Like I want you to

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Speaker 1: be part of this operation. I want to lean on you,

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00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and clearly does because I think was the Eagle game

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Bob was sitting right there with Josh Harris,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. And speaking of coaches, you know,

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00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: it's it's really funny that it's never easier easy firing

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00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: people if you like them, right, you read about headlines

556
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Major Fortune, five hundred companies. If you work in certain industries,

557
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Speaker 1: you get texts about so and so has been laid off.

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Speaker 2: Then you know them.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a shitty feeling when you see someone

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Speaker 1: lose their job. And anyone listening to this, whether you

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Speaker 1: own a company or whether you're a management or HR position,

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Speaker 1: it's not a fun position to be in when you

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Speaker 1: have to tell someone they're being let go.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's bad.

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Speaker 1: And clearly the Bears have a lot now. Some industries

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Speaker 1: are a little different than others, Like if you work

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00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: in coaching, you're kind of hired to essentially be fired.

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Speaker 1: I mean Andy Reid and Bill Belichick have been fired,

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Speaker 1: so Matt Eberfluss shouldn't lose that much sleep knowing that

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Speaker 1: he's going to get fired sooner or later. But clearly

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Speaker 1: the Bears like the guy, which understand. I bet he's

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Speaker 1: a really nice guy from Matt eber flush just still

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Speaker 1: have a job. And obviously you can't fire him this

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Speaker 1: week because it's a Thursday night game. Probably should have

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Speaker 1: fired him when you fired Shane Waldron. Wasn't that the move? Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the point of delaying this, because here's the thing

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Speaker 1: I will respect about the Jets who the story game

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Speaker 1: that Woody Johnson helicopter to practice and fired Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: like last Tuesday. Once you fire everybody, you don't have

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00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: to hide anything, right. The Bears are riding these lists

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00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles and Kevin Warren in their office when no

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Speaker 1: one's looking, they kind of look around, they're kind of

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00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: dim the lights and they're writing, like Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: they got a little list or something in their notepad.

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Speaker 1: When you just tell him, hey man, we appreciate everything

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00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: you did. You tried hard. It just wasn't good enough.

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: It just wasn't even remotely close to good enough. I

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Speaker 1: saw a clip I didn't have a game audio on,

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Speaker 1: but he threw a challenge flag yesterday on a Jordan

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Speaker 1: Addison explosive play that obviously wasn't a play that should

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Speaker 1: have been challenged, and they asked him after the game, like,

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Speaker 1: why did you do that? He's like, we just like

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00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: challenging explosive plays, and I honestly I had to look twice.

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00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this Ai? Did he really just say this?

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00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy so over his head. And this

596
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Speaker 1: is where you get in these positions where someone's completely

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00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: over their head in a situation or in a job

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Speaker 1: like this, where it's like we all start getting embarrassed,

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Like this starts getting really really bad, I mean really

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Speaker 1: really ugly. The coaching going on right now for the Bears. Like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Chicago fans, I could have told you. Richard high Tower

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Speaker 1: was the special teams coach for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 1: We used to have a thing where we just scream

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Speaker 1: out high Tower every time there is a fuck up,

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Speaker 1: and usually it's multiple.

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Speaker 2: Times a game.

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously, in the game against the Vikings, you had

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Speaker 1: a muff punt where a guy basically called get away

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Speaker 1: Peter get Away and he just got a there and

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Speaker 2: You don't see that very often.

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Speaker 1: And they have the same thing happened to them on

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Speaker 1: a block kick that literally just happened to them. They

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Speaker 1: cost him a game in the week before. So you

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Speaker 1: can't even I just don't get what's going on, And

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Bears fans because I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna if it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is like to be a football coach,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, you gotta be a tough, crazy guy, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: Let's use Antonio Pierce for an example. Like, no one

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Speaker 1: can argue like Antonio Pierce is legitimately tough. We have

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Speaker 1: seen him play middle linebacker in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: He's a tough guy. Like if you just compared, like

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Speaker 1: who is physically tougher, Antonio Piers or William Belichick, you'd go, well,

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Speaker 1: Bill would get his ass kicked by Antonio Pierce. Complete

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Speaker 1: agreement by everybody. Yet Antonio Piers coaches like he is

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Speaker 1: terrified of doing anything wrong. He's constantly kicking field goals,

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Speaker 1: he's running out claw he's an embarrassment when it comes

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Speaker 1: to making decisions. And Belichick historically has some of the

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Speaker 1: biggest kahonas the biggest set of balls in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: So having balls when you're a coach has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with like how tough of an actual guy you are? Right,

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00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell has pretty big balls. Sometimes it's a little reckless,

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Speaker 1: but no one ever argues like Dan Campbell does not

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Speaker 1: coach scared. John Harbaff forever was always like.

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Speaker 2: This guy's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Say that's about Sirianni. Now is Sirianni actually making decisions?

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Speaker 1: I think he's being told to make these decisions. But

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Speaker 1: either way, and Dan Quinn, who when you just watch

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Speaker 1: his teams the last several years on defense, you go,

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Speaker 1: this guy, this guy can still toughness, like he's crazy,

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Speaker 1: little ball guy backwards hat and his team's flying around

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Speaker 1: with their hair on fire. And I don't think it

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Speaker 1: quite hit me because one I screwed up. I turned

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Speaker 1: the television off the game because I assume it was

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Speaker 1: over before Jayden Daniels hit Terry McLaurin for I would

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: say probably if you were watching it live, one of

649
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Speaker 1: the coolest plays. And then I also missed live the

650
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: field goal that was missed, which watching it not live,

651
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: honestly is such a letdown because you know, you miss

652
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: that high that everyone got to experience, and it still

653
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: pisses me off more than twenty four hours later. God,

654
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm an idiot. I clicked off the four

655
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: box to go to the individual box to the freaking

656
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Bears game because it was headed to overtime. But regardless,

657
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: when they scored the touchdown with Terry McLaurin to go

658
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: down twenty seven to twenty six, they had twenty one

659
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: seconds left and it didn't quite hit me. I guess

660
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: we might have talked about it last night before we

661
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: recorded my podcast at night.

662
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Why didn't he go for two?

663
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: And he talked about it after the game or today

664
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: when he was addressed in the media. That never crossed

665
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: his mind to go for two. His field goal kicker

666
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: has been a disaster. His quarterback, like Lamar to I like,

667
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: if you get him on the run on these two

668
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: point plays is very, very dangerous. Help they had scored

669
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: on one earlier. You also have nothing to lose, like

670
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: this year, you have no expectations. Winning ten games might

671
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: get you like a contract extension. So this guy that

672
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago on Thursday night against

673
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: the Eagles, we was to score twelve to ten, and

674
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: he was driving went for it. You know why, because

675
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: there wasn't that much pressure late in the you know,

676
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: ten minutes laughter or whatever in the fourth quarter. I

677
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: forget the exact time on the clock. But if you

678
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: lost the Eagles, no one holds it against you. It's

679
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: easy to be free and easy. It actually doesn't take balls.

680
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: You could argue it was just stupid to make that

681
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: decision against the Eagles because you actually have a chance

682
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: to win where the Cowboys, where there is pressure, because

683
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: if you do lose to the Cowboys, everyone's gonna say

684
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: you choke because you should have beat them. You're favorite,

685
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: They're terrible. They got their backup quarterback.

686
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: He puckered up.

687
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I find funny about some of these coaches.

688
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 1: It's like they get loose when it's.

689
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Easy to be loose. It was easy to be loose

690
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: against the Eagles.

691
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: They were a massive underdog. Yet against the Cowboys in

692
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: a game that everyone thought they were gonna win, he

693
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: wasn't loose, and he wasn't this kind of gunslinging.

694
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Guy with big.

695
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: Balls, and he coached. I would say, I don't want

696
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to say scared, but he took the easy way out

697
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: and it cost him because it actually wasn't because the

698
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: kicker is so terrible and the ball never given a chance.

699
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: So I think dan Quinn would have to want that

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: one back. Okay, let's do to me the Penthouse. When

701
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: it comes to the NFL and the top teams, I

702
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: think the NFC right now, if the Eagles or the Lineans.

703
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: If the Super Bowl was tomorrow and I said you

704
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: could pick between four or five teams in the AFC,

705
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens, the Steelers, the Chargers,

706
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Texans, basically the group of teams that

707
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: are going to make the playoffs. The Lions and the

708
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Eagles would be favored against all those teams. Depending on

709
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: the matchup, the Lions would be heavy favorite. And I

710
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: think the way the Eagles are playing right now, I

711
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: think the same thing were last year. Going into even

712
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: the final four, You're like, the Ravens are going to

713
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: be favored against whoever they play, and the Chiefs are

714
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: going to be an underdog to either the Lions, or

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00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. So to me, Philly, I haven't

716
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: been hesitant to put them on the Lions level, but

717
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: there is no denying right now that they look fucking awesome.

718
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: The Lions have been good going back to last year,

719
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: they have been consistently awesome. They have won every single weight.

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say about them. I think they

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: if you were doing a power ranking of one through five,

722
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: they would have to be.

723
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Speaker 2: The number one team in the NFL right now.

724
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Speaker 1: I think, if we're just being real, I think you'd

725
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: probably have to put the Eagles number two because, like

726
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: I said, I think they would be favored against all.

727
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: Those teams in New Orleans if the game was next week.

728
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: And then I think the AFC, like I don't feel

729
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: great about the Conference one. I think it's wide open.

730
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: All four teams could win this thing, maybe five, right obviously,

731
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens, you know, if the Steelers,

732
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: I thought maybe, and then you watch the other night

733
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Speaker 1: against the Browns, like, I don't know, I thought the Chargers.

734
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: It's like, is it crazy that the Chargers could be

735
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: in the AFC championship game? And then you watch them

736
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: play like, oh, they don't have enough offense. You'd be

737
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: hard pressed to see a rookie quarterback and bow Knicks

738
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: get that far, but their defense is really good. It

739
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: might just be the Bills, the Chiefs and the Ravens.

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00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: And I know the Steelers beat the Ravens. We'll see

741
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: if they play again. In hell, they might end up

742
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: playing three times. I just have a hard time picking

743
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson over over Lamar though. The one thing Steeler

744
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: fans would say, if you're gonna play him like you

745
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: do every time he's gonna look like that, then yeah,

746
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: then I would kick the Ravens out of this category.

747
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: But every time, like I want to drop him, I

748
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: watch a game like tonight and you're like, holy shit,

749
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: like this this is awesome. But I think we have

750
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: to do a clear separation of the Lions and the

751
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Eagles right now are just kind of in their own

752
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: little category and to me, they feel better than all.

753
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: These teams right now in the AFC.

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00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: And luckily we get a massive, awesome game this week

755
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: in Baltimore with the with the Eagles coming through, I

756
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: think the outhouse just has one team, and like I said,

757
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: the Porta Potti Panthers, who It was really ugly there

758
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: for a while. Might have done one of the great

759
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: moves of all time of benching their player, and then

760
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: basically nothing they did to create this. Andy Dalton gets

761
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: in a car accident and they have to throw Bryce

762
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Young back in and he looks good and the team,

763
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've rallied around him. I don't

764
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: know if they've just gotten better. They have been really

765
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: good for a month. And they went toe to toe

766
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: to drive down the field and score that extra two

767
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: point to tie the game against the Chiefs. That was

768
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: a really cool moment for a Carolina Panthers franchise that

769
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: has had a lot of ugly moments, and it was

770
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago they were the laughing

771
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: sock of the league. And to me right now, that's

772
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the Giants who are in their own little world. Like

773
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders are equally as shitty on the field, but

774
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: they're just losing quarterback. They just had no quarterbacks coming

775
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: into the season. Now, Gardner Minshew breaks his collarbone, Dan

776
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: O'Connell had shattered a finger. They had to sign what's

777
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: his name from the Falcons last year. Ritter like their

778
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is so bad that they were always gonna suck,

779
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: but they really didn't have any options. Like, I don't

780
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: quite know what to say. The Giants chose to name

781
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: Tommy Cutlet's their starting quarterback. Like I just I texted

782
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: with someone who's around the Giants today, not a coach

783
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: or anything, but covers on the media side, and I

784
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: was like, are these guys really gonna get fired? He's like,

785
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I just don't see how you overcome if they just

786
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: don't win another game. And then sometimes when it rains

787
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: at pours, it's like you can't really hide, right, You're like, God,

788
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: that Tommy Cutlet's the thing that was really bad.

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Speaker 2: Who do we got this week?

790
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Well, you play in four days on Thanksgiving Day on

791
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: basically the slot they give the Cowboys too. Why because

792
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: that's the slot most people are watching football. It is

793
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: typically the highest rated game of the day, the middle game,

794
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: because a lot of people in the East Coast sitting

795
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: down to eat, a lot of us on the West

796
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: Coast or Mountain time are cooking in or around the kitchen,

797
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: and that game is on television. A couple of years ago,

798
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: I forget who played, but it was a really good game.

799
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: It was like one of the highest rated games of

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00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: the might have been two years ago it was Cowboy somebody,

801
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and I think like almost thirty million people watched it. Now,

802
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that's going to be the case

803
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: this year because it's not a great game, but just

804
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: on the sure volume, a sure volume of people that

805
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: sit around during that time, everyone's gonna be watching. And

806
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: if you get killed, like listen, getting your ass kicked

807
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: by Tampa sucked if you are a Giants fan, if

808
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: you work for that team. But it was a Sunday

809
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: morning game, and unless you lived in New York, it's

810
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: not like nationally everyone saw it. There is no hiding

811
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: in this game. And because you're playing Dallas, everyone knows.

812
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: We've all been making fun of Dallas all year, and

813
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: they're rolling out Cooper Rush. And I like Dallas a

814
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: lot this weekend or a week you know, on Thursday. So

815
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: I think the Giants, like even look at the Titans,

816
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: like keep playing their ass off. The Raiders, like I said,

817
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: they just suck and they're awful, and they're also in

818
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: this category. But once you do the Tommy cutlets move

819
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: for Drew Locke.

820
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: And your own team.

821
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Basically goes, what is going how can this be happening?

822
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: I think you go into your own category. You basically

823
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: have become the porta potty Panthers. That's the New York Giants,

824
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: the porta potty New York Giants, that's currently who they are,

825
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: with a Tommy cutlet at the bottom, you know, on

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00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: one of a bunch of toilet paper, and just just

827
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: a Tommy cutlet right there on top. That's that's the

828
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: New York Giants headed into Thanksgiving week. Okay, let's do

829
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: a little Midlcoff mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff,

830
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: it's the Instagram fire in those direct messages and get

831
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Speaker 1: your answered question here on the show. Recording this part

832
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: of the show before Monday Night Football. So just to

833
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: give you context depending on what's asked here, Tristan question

834
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: for the mailbag. I understand the rules are the rules,

835
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: but what happened last night in the Eagles Rams is

836
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: total bs. Sirianni declines the Rams offensive holding penalty due

837
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: to put them in a fourth down. That should be

838
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: the end of his ability to impact or affect the penalty.

839
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: When the Rams choose to keep their offense on the field,

840
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: and then the penalty is enforced. It makes a mockery

841
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: of the decision to decline it in the first place.

842
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: He should know the outcome of declining that flag, and

843
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: that the Rams staying on the field for a fourth

844
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: and three should have been something he thought of sooner.

845
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: Curious your thoughts. I forget the exact situation. Now. It's

846
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: been four or five days, and I've watched so much

847
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: football on Saturday and Sunday. But there was a similar

848
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: situation and chaotic moment in the game on Thursday night

849
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: in the Steelers and the Jameis Winston led to Cleveland Browns.

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00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: I am completely in agreement. When you make a decision,

851
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: do you want, hey, it's gonna be fourth and three,

852
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: or it's gonna be third and eight. Do you want

853
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: to accept or decline the penalty? What they're gonna do?

854
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Once you accept or decline the penalty, you have no

855
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: control over. Now, you make the decision based on what

856
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: you think they will do. But once you find out

857
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: what they will do, you don't get the equivalent of

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: a timeout.

859
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: And then to change your opinion.

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00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Right, we see it all the time, and it's fourth

861
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: and two late in the game, the defense calls a

862
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: time out because they don't like to look right, Well,

863
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that's fair.

864
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: You get three of those. That's your prerogative. You do

865
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: not or should not. I don't know.

866
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: You'd have to get Belichick on the horn here, like,

867
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: are they not supposed to allow that? Because I thought

868
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: you don't get Hey, just double checking, you want to decline? Right,

869
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: They're coming out to go forward on fourth and three, which, again,

870
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: if I'm remembering this correctly, it was a five yard penalty.

871
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: And if I would rather have fourth and three and

872
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: get them off the field third and eight because basically

873
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: they have two downs to get.

874
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: Eight yards or one down to get three yards.

875
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not a great mathematician here, but especially the

876
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: way their defense was planned, I would take fourth and three.

877
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you. I think total bs.

878
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: You should not be able to any coach be allowed

879
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: to change your opinion unless, like hey, I said, decline

880
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: you you accepted it right, you misheard me, or there

881
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: was a miscommunication. If it's clear concise, I give you

882
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: the accept that penalty is accepted and we're moving on

883
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: and you can't say anything about it anymore.

884
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

885
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: What criteria do you use to determine who is a

886
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: great quarterback or who you would have a question about.

887
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: I have seen you and Colin wax poetic about Matt Stafford,

888
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: who has a ninety four passer rating, nine turnovers and

889
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns and the same record as San Francisco where

890
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Purty has. There's more tds, better passer rating, etc. But

891
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: it's not just about them. Jordan Love is eight good games,

892
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: but it's considered a great quarterback. I don't know who

893
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: considers him a great quarterback. I think he's considered a

894
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: high end talent, but I don't know if people would

895
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: say he's a great quarterback. But I hear you with

896
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: a passer rating of ninety two. Full disclosure, I have

897
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: no clue what passer rating means. It means absolutely nothing

898
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: to me. If you put a gun to my head

899
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: and said, describe how you get to these numbers, I

900
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know where to begin. Maybe other people listening

901
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: to this, obviously the analytical nerds. I'm sure no. I

902
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: do not know and don't give a shit. The only

903
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: way I determine if a guy's good or not is

904
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: I watched them play. And Kyle Shanahan would take Matt

905
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: Stafford over the last five years over Brook thirty Like,

906
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: that's not an opinion. I know that for a fact

907
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: because literally they desperately tried to get him once upon

908
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: a time. Efford's really good and been really good for

909
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: a decade and a half. Now, if you factor in

910
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: one guy's thirty six like over the next ten years.

911
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: Who would I rather have?

912
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: I would just take brock Purty based on age, but

913
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: also brock Purty gets judged, Like last year, I saw

914
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford go on the road against the Baltimore Ravens defense,

915
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, and go toe

916
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: to toe with their ass and a driving rainstorm. And

917
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: I've seen brock Purty playing some cold games against good defense.

918
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: Does not look great. He's had a remarkable career as

919
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: a mister irrelevant. It's been awesome, seems like a great guy.

920
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: Everyone loves him, But like, can I can I win

921
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: big once I start paying them fifty million dollars a year?

922
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: That's so there's context in all this, Like I've seen

923
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes get paid five hundred million dollars a contract for life,

924
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs kick everyone's ass consistently Since I don't

925
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: even know what his stats are this year. I know

926
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: they're not great. Right, You just watch Lamar you go, yeah,

927
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that. Josh Allen, like, I've

928
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: never seen a guy that. Yeah, I didn't see John

929
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: l Way in his prime. I would imagine this is

930
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: what it looked like. And then there are guys we

931
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: can argue about, like Kyler Murray. If you've watched football

932
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: long enough, you know, God, this guy's a freak. But

933
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: you watch him sometimes in some of these big moments,

934
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: you're like, God, he didn't play that well, but we

935
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: know he's really talented. Same thing with Jordan love Well.

936
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: Yesterday at that game against the Niners. There were some throws,

937
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: couple that he missed. You're like, h a couple that

938
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: weren't his fault. Watson dropped a big, you know, pass

939
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: that should have been touchdown. But you watch him and go,

940
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: this guy's really really physically gifted. So I guess my

941
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: criteria's is watch and then I give my opinion. That's

942
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: the business that we're in, and that's really the basis

943
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: of sports talk in general. Whether you're listening to it

944
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: or talking with your friends, it's all pretty subjective, right,

945
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: I Mean there are objective things like who's won the

946
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: most Super Bowls, who's won the most NBA titles, who

947
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: has the most mvpiece, But it's like who's the better player.

948
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: We could argue that, hell, who's the better coach? Andy

949
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have as many Super Bowls as Belichick, but I

950
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: could make the argument for Andy Reid. So I just

951
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: think it's the fun part about sports. I guess question

952
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: for the bag. Chicago Bears lifer Hey John been a

953
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: follower for several years. Born in nineteen ninety six.

954
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: God, we fucking love that demo around.

955
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: Here, Baby, advertisers love to hear it. It's what the

956
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: dying business of terrestrial radio no longer has.

957
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 2: So we welcome you to the show.

958
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: Jack, thanks for being a listener. With Eberflus on his

959
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: way out and Thomas Brown looking more than competent these

960
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, it puts the Bears in another

961
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: precarious situation. I think the best move is to fire

962
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Eberflus now so that Thomas Brown can be the interim

963
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I've always scoffed at the

964
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: ORCS promoting the interim to full time head coach, as

965
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: it seems to never work. But if the offensive Caleb

966
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: continued to progress, it could make sense to give Thomas

967
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Brown a shot.

968
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Would love to hear your thoughts.

969
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I talked about on the podcast on the Open that

970
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: what eber flu should have been fired a couple weeks

971
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: ago to put your team in a position where you

972
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: can start talking to other people, you can start doing

973
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: what inevitably is going to happen. Right, what's the point

974
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: of rolling him out? And they didn't fire him after

975
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: the embarrassing loss to the Patriots, and they just keep losing, right,

976
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: It's like, well we got closed against the Packer, Oh

977
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: we got closed. It's like you've just lost. There are

978
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: no the only I guess moral victory here, Like you said,

979
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: is Caleb. I don't never cross my mind to make

980
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown the interim coach.

981
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I don't.

982
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: Think it's I've heard way crazier ideas. Why not I

983
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: would get Eberflus out of there immediately. This isn't personal, right,

984
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: It's not because he's a bad guy, and clearly they

985
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: like the guy. But like, this is a business, and

986
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: a pretty big one, billions of dollars on the line

987
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: in our franchise quarterback, like we got to figure out

988
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: where we're at. And like you said, now that we

989
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: did keep him. A couple of weeks after he fired Waldron,

990
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: we found out like, oh, this might have something here,

991
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: so why not give him.

992
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: A trial run?

993
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure do the Bears play. I think

994
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: they play. I know it's Cowboys Giants, it is Packers

995
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: versus the Dolphins, and yeah it's Bears Lions. So maybe

996
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night if they lose the Lions, I guess it's

997
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: technically Thursday morning for us on the West Coast, I

998
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: would fire you with loose Friday morning and just elevate

999
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown.

1000
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: So I like your idea.

1001
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: Mail back question regarding the Chiefs versus the Niners running

1002
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: out of gas. For the Niners, I think it's more mental.

1003
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: They've been playing in as many postseasons as the Chiefs

1004
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: and haven't gotten the payoff.

1005
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: Or even won Super Bowl.

1006
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: But actually they haven't because they didn't go to the

1007
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: championship Game or the playoffs in twenty eighteen, and they

1008
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: did not in twenty twenty as well, so they actually

1009
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: have not. And like the Chiefs, they have some young

1010
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: guys that weren't around twenty, you know, twenty nineteen or

1011
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: even twenty twenty one. I get it they've run out

1012
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: of gas, but why haven't the Chiefs run out of gas?

1013
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: They've been doing this longer. While I do think the

1014
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Niners have done a lot and have been really good

1015
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: over the packt several years, they haven't been able to

1016
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: make it like the Chiefs because of a lot of

1017
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: what you talk about.

1018
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: Coaching and quarterback.

1019
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Kyle has been there the whole time, but the coordinators

1020
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: have been poached, while Spags has been there with Andy,

1021
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: the Lance draft picks are catching up. Chiefs have been

1022
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: better at drafting to make up for older players moving on.

1023
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: I really like Purdy and I'm so grateful for saving

1024
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: the Niners the past two and a half years. But

1025
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't think comparing the two teams situations as Apple's

1026
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: apples well. One huge part is Mahomes is dramatically better

1027
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: in brock Perty and that's not a shot at rock Perty.

1028
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: That's just there's a huge gap there. And Rock Perry

1029
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: is a good player, and the gap between him and

1030
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes is, you know the size of California and Andy

1031
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: Reid in his mid sixties is dramatically better than Kyle

1032
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: Shanahan as a head coach, and Kyle's good. And the

1033
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: crazy thing is I would say the gap between Kyle

1034
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: and Andy separate from this year is closer than it

1035
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: is Purty to Mahomes. And like you said, Purty saved

1036
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: the franchise because they would have been in major trouble.

1037
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: They would have had to try to.

1038
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Get an old Rogers signed cousins. It would have been

1039
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: a disaster, and I would take this version of Rock Party.

1040
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: I think where it gets complicated is the Niners tried

1041
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: to have their cake and he needed to and part

1042
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: of the NFL. I would say this is where a

1043
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: parallels Wall Street a lot.

1044
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: Like you got to be pretty cold blooded.

1045
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: You got to make decisions that like guys you've been

1046
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: in battle with, like see you later. We're not gonna

1047
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: extend you, or we're gonna trade you, We're gonna get

1048
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: rid of you. And Andy Reid did that, like Tyreek

1049
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: Hill is better player than some of the guys the

1050
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: forty nine ers have doubled down on and like they

1051
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: should have pivoted off Deebo a couple of years ago.

1052
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: They should have pivoted this off season on Brandon Ayuk.

1053
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: They could have pivoted off you know, Christian McCaffrey held out,

1054
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: and I understand why he did, and they gave him

1055
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: extension because he was like, look like Marshall Faulk last

1056
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: year and then his achilles both stopped working and he

1057
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: missed the majority of the season and he comes back

1058
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: and he looks slow, and as we sit here today

1059
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: on November twenty fifth, he's not even the best running

1060
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: back on the team based on the way he's playing.

1061
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's it's not really even close.

1062
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Mason is, but Kyle is obligated because that's his guy,

1063
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: and he's paid him to keep giving him the ball,

1064
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: even though in a weird way it's kind of hurting

1065
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: the team.

1066
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: So I think the.

1067
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers fell trap of what happens to bad

1068
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: organizations and a lot of NBA teams, they keep doubling

1069
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: down and sometimes, like Devo, looks terrible. And I admire

1070
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: what Debo did in twenty twenty one. It was an

1071
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: all time carry a franchise with Jimmy Garoppolo led him

1072
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But ever since he's got his contract,

1073
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: it's been very hit or miss some hits, some moments,

1074
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: but a lot of like are we really getting our

1075
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: money's worth?

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: The answer is no.

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I would say there's only a handful of guys that

1078
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: they've paid big money that you feel really good about.

1079
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Kittle's been a badassin since brock Purty started, you know,

1080
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: became a starter. Trent Williams, for the most part, has

1081
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: been awesome. Fred's fallen off a little bit, having a

1082
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: weird second half of the season, but he's been the

1083
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: heart beat of your team for a long time in Bosa.

1084
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: But some of these offensive skill guys, and this is

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: what Colin and I talked about, like they're open about

1086
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: like they don't believe as much in the offensive line

1087
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: because their own scheme. It's like, oh, just give me

1088
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: an average guy. Well, what does that average guy do

1089
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: when he's looking at fucking Aaron Donald or Chris Jones

1090
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: or I don't know. Every team that has multiple good

1091
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: defensive linemen, they're licking their lips to throttle that guy.

1092
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have one offensive lineman over the

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: last three or four years that you're like, he intimidates

1094
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: the defensive line. The other four guys are marks now

1095
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Pooney the rookie good player. But this notion of like

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00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: taking a wide receiver in the first round, it's like,

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00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: just take an offensive.

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00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: Lineman, but they won't.

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Speaker 1: Kyle doesn't believe in it because his own scheme, just

1100
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: get me a guy that can run positional block. It's like,

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: how about you just give me a good player for

1102
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: the bag. Hurtsmiss an open Godder in the end zone

1103
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: during the second quarter on a semi tough throw. Quarterbacks

1104
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: like Mahomes, Alan Burrow Herbert hit it.

1105
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: How far away? Has hurts from them? My name is

1106
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Matt from West Virginia. I don't remember that pass.

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00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't put him in that category, but his team,

1108
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: like Herbert. I'm doing this before the Monday night game.

1109
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: But obviously Herbert does not have the offensive weapons Mahomes

1110
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: clearly does not. You got Saquon Barkley. I saw Jared

1111
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Verse today said that Saquon is He's like, you have

1112
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. I've been playing football for

1113
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: a while here, first year in the NFL, A couple

1114
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: years of Florida State. We've played a lot of big

1115
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: time teams. Never seen anything like I don't know what

1116
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: that was. It's like, welcome to the show, kid, because well,

1117
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: and he's like, you don't see that many running backs

1118
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: that have that level of top end speed because it's

1119
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: really the last thing that like, you know, Adrian Peterson,

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01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, most running backs, a player can catch them.

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: But it's pretty rare when you get a guy in

1122
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: the open field, like it's a rap. He's out the

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: gate and it's, as the announcers say, headed toward pay dirt.

1124
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: And that's what him, Derrick Henry you know, can do.

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01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: That's a problem for the Niners right now. Christian McCaffrey

1126
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: gets a little green grass, it's like he's not running

1127
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: very fast. Love the pod Dolphins fan, but asking about

1128
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: the Giants, I heard you with Colin talking about them

1129
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: starting to veto in how you said it was an embarrassment,

1130
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: which is true. Do you think they're possibly starting him

1131
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: because they are actively tanking. Clearly Drew Locke is miles

1132
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: better than de Vito and gives them a fight chance.

1133
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: But maybe that's not what they want. Maybe they're actually

1134
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: considering firing day Ball, drafting Shador and trying to lure

1135
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: Dion away from Colorado.

1136
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: I guess it's possible if you told me that was

1138
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: their grand plan, I'd be like, that's more impressive than

1139
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: anything they've done in the last six seven years. So

1140
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: I really think it was more of a business move.

1141
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: And if they were considering firing Dayball, why would't just

1142
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: fire him now?

1143
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: Like what would be?

1144
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: I would just fire him now, and started to veto

1145
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: and just I mean, he listened. He's obviously their team's

1146
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: not playing well. But just I would just remove him

1147
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: now if that was the case. So I I think

1148
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: you'd be giving them a little too much credit. I

1149
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: also have a hard time John Mara Dion Sanders like,

1150
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: to me, Dion's got more, you know, which I appreciate.

1151
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: It's got a little renegade to him, you know, Dion

1152
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: feels Jerry Jones, Mark Davis. I would be stunned, stunned

1153
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: if Deon Sanders was the coach of the New York Giants.

1154
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: I see him the Jets a little more of a

1155
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: renegade franchise, the Jags, Like I have a hard time

1156
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: seeing the Giants, Dean you know, colors outside the Lions, Baby,

1157
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: John Marrow, I just have a I can't see it

1158
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: uh season over yet, But I feel like Saquan has

1159
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: already cemented himself as an Eagle, the same way Dion

1160
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: has always thought of as a cowboy and not as

1161
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: a Falcon. I actually think of Dion as a forty

1162
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: nine er. He was won and done, but he won him.

1163
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: He won him a title. I would say it's been

1164
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: one of the more impressive starts to a season you'll

1165
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: ever see. It's it's pretty crazy like it. I don't

1166
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: think it's humanly possible to go any better. And I

1167
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: think the hard part about football with free agency is

1168
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: you just never know. It's not a plug and play

1169
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: sport like baseball or even like basketball, which is somewhere

1170
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: in the middle. There are so many like good players

1171
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: that sign free agent deals and it just you know,

1172
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: the scheme, the situation, whatever, it doesn't work. But yeah, man,

1173
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: it's an ald timer right now. It's if they were

1174
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: to make it to the super Bowl and Saque has

1175
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: an MVP level season, it'll go down as one of

1176
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: the great signings of all time. Because for twenty seven

1177
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: million dollars, even if this is his best season of

1178
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: his career with the Eagles, if he rushes for like

1179
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred yards, I mean, it'd be an all timer

1180
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: and then he plays one in the playoffs. Safe to

1181
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: say that Antonio Pierce has been a mistake. Think maybe

1182
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: Mark Davis could be blind, but Brady definitely is not.

1183
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: Do you think he ultimately gets fired and who would

1184
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: your guest be to replace him? My question is this.

1185
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: You know Mark gave him a sweetheart deal to buy

1186
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: some of this ownership, And from what I was told

1187
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: and maybe it's been reported, is like he was actively

1188
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: reaching out to Tom. I wonder how much pull Tom

1189
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: has and how active he even wants to be with

1190
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: Like now maybe Mark's asking him about, you know, Antonio

1191
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: Pierce in the current situation, but it would be a

1192
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: complete guess to go. You know, Tom's really active. I've

1193
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: said before Mark should bring him in, right, should try

1194
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: to get him active in the operation. But Tom's kind

1195
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: of busy, Like Tom on Saturday and Sunday is with

1196
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: calling an NFC game, So it's not like he's at

1197
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: the Raider games. So he's not there. I don't think

1198
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: he's there that much during practice. It's kind of unique

1199
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: because of his job. If he didn't have the broadcasting job,

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01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: I would say I would be shocked if he's not

1201
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: more involved, but because of the broadcasting job. I don't know, Man,

1202
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: can you make a pod about the Texans and how

1203
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Slowick dropped off a cliff with.

1204
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: His play calling? Yeah?

1205
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: I the Titans are pretty good on defense. You know

1206
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: that that was gonna be a tough game.

1207
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1208
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: I didn't expect Will Levis to make some of the

1209
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: best throws of a season, but the Titans are good

1210
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: on d and one thing we know, especially inside on

1211
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: the defensive line, Well, where did the Texans suck interior

1212
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: offensive line? So I think it's easy to blame Bobby Slowick.

1213
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: It could be, you know, the quarterback. Maybe he's lost

1214
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: some of his confidence. Maybe they're a tag team, like they're.

1215
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: Both kind of struggling.

1216
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: I love the show I drive for Amazon gets me

1217
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: through the day. Trust me, my home Hope keeps that company.

1218
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: Like many people, rolling people keep wondering what the problem

1219
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: is with the Niners. But I feel like this is

1220
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: just a textbook definition of the year from hell injuries,

1221
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: older players, and most importantly, Kyle having an off year.

1222
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: I think Kyle is a great coach, but I think

1223
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: he is a huge schematic rut. Does he have to

1224
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: revamp his whole scheme in the offseason or is it

1225
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: more factoring cleaning up the edges.

1226
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: Man, well he's holding on to this defense like it's

1228
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. It's like, guys, no one's running the Seattle defense.

1229
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: You're running anymore? Can you adapt? Like you know what defense?

1230
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: Everyone's trying to pillage the Ravens. How about you go

1231
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: hire a Ravens guy. No, we need Pete Carroll from

1232
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. It's like, you know, Kyle Pets got fired

1233
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: last year for the young hot shot Mike McDonald from

1234
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens who just kicked your ass at Levi Stadium.

1235
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think Kyle is a combination of two things.

1236
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: He's obviously really smart, he knows football and the offensive

1237
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 1: side of the ball really really well. But he's also

1238
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: very stubborn, really stubborn, and you know, he's he's just

1239
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: a very very hardheaded. You know, this is not some

1240
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: sixty eight year old like this is. This is a

1241
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: young hot shot who kind of thinks he's, you know,

1242
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: God's gift to football sometimes and it's like, bro, you

1243
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: got to adapt, And I think it's hard when you know,

1244
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: like Kyle, this is not like one Kyle grew up rich.

1245
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: Kyle grew up in a successful world, and since he

1246
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: got to the NFL, mainly is you know, been a

1247
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: coordinator really fast and based on like, you know, the

1248
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: Shanahan name. If he sucked, he would have fucking been

1249
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: a position coach for the rest of his life. Like he

1250
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: obviously is a dying namack coach who's had a lot

1251
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: of success and won a lot of games. But like,

1252
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: you gotta have some other pitches, and it's like his

1253
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: offense every fucking week, Like Kyle, Like, why can't you

1254
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: and I get it? Because your offensive line sucks. You

1255
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: can't just spread it out and drop back the passing game.

1256
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: So you just drafted a fucking wide receiver in the

1257
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: first round. You got Kittle, who you just put in

1258
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: the slot. You got a ton of wide receivers. You're

1259
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: paying d Ball a bunch of money. Juwan Jennings under contract,

1260
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey can just flank out as a wide receiver.

1261
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: Why not go like four or five wide? Why not

1262
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: mix it up? What were they doing yesterday? Early in

1263
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: the game, the Packers are like, well they got this guy.

1264
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: Most people couldn't point out of a lineup playing quarterback.

1265
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: So what do you think Kyle's gonna do.

1266
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna try to run the ball.

1267
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: What's gonna be difficult in this game? When I don't

1268
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: know they know the runs coming the run, But Kyle

1269
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: can't just go, well, we'll just go four or five

1270
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: wide because it's not what we do. It's not what

1271
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: we do. Why do you think Amazon was so successful

1272
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: because his whole thing from day one was like, we'll

1273
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes for the consumer. It's not about

1274
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: what I think. It's the right idea, what do they want?

1275
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: Shouldn't that be what an offensive coach does, like what

1276
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: do I need to do to win this game? Instead

1277
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: of like, we're just gonna run our stuff and then

1278
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: if the run game's working, all the play action stuff

1279
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: off off that and it'll be easy pickings. I think

1280
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it gets very hard headed with that and that

1281
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: Ghetto is a backup quarterback. But his offense looks the

1282
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: same every week, and it's like, when it's working, great,

1283
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: but what about when it's not. Do you think it's

1284
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: possible for the Raiders to hire Spags if they fire

1285
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Pearce. I know he had an opportunity to be

1286
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: the head coach for the Rams a while back and

1287
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: it didn't go well, but he has done an excellent

1288
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: job turning the defense around from the Bob Sutton era.

1289
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Chiefs fan and surprising that a team in

1290
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: the division wouldn't try to lure him away. You know,

1291
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: I text a buddy about this after I read The

1292
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: Athletic did like an in depth piece that was really,

1293
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: really powerful. It's one of the best things I've read

1294
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: this year, And I said, do you think Spags could

1295
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: be the next head coach of the Bears. You know,

1296
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles used to work with the Chiefs, knows him,

1297
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: and he's like, no chance. He's like that they would

1298
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: want to fire Poles and Kevin Warren immediately. Like Spags

1299
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: is sixty four years old and he's clearly one of,

1300
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: if not the best defensive mind in the NFL. And

1301
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: his resume, I mean, he's got four championships as a

1302
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and look at some of the list of

1303
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: people he's beat along the way, from Tom Brady to

1304
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan to you know, you name it. I mean,

1305
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: they beat Joe Burrow a couple of years ago, Josh

1306
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: Allens several times Lamar Jackson like he's beaten Hall of famers,

1307
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: all time greats, the best offensive minds. And I think

1308
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: you get to a certain age, it's very very hard

1309
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: to break through, you.

1310
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 2: Know, when you look back.

1311
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: Bruce arians who I think was a little younger when

1312
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 1: he got the the Arizona job. Bruce is seventy two now,

1313
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: so in two thousand. He became the Cardinal head coach

1314
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, so he was like sixty one years old,

1315
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: and it was a big deal when they hired him

1316
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: because he was an older guy, and it was clear

1317
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: like he was a stud, right, But at sixty four,

1318
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: you get to the point like I think it's gonna

1319
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: My buddy told me he would be hard pressed to

1320
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: see it happening. Not that he doesn't deserve it, not

1321
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: that he's not a stud, but it's just hard once

1322
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: you get to a certain age. And in that article

1323
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: that I read on the Athletic about Spags is, Spags

1324
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: was kind of you know, understands that it might never

1325
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: come again, and he's cool with it.

1326
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1327
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's a good example. He's been outspoken that he

1328
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was going to happen because last year,

1329
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: if Ben Johnson takes Washington job, he doesn't get a

1330
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: head coaching job, and he's ten years younger in spags.

1331
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: But you could already see that manifest itself into well,

1332
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: what if dan Quinn had come back with the Cowboys

1333
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: this year. It's not like he'd probably get a job.

1334
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: This all like all of a sudden, you just never

1335
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: get a job to become a head coach. And listen,

1336
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: most gms never get a second shot.

1337
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 2: You get one shot.

1338
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of coaching you can get a second shot.

1339
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: But a lot of times second shots helps to be

1340
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: a little younger. Right when Andy got hired ten years ago,

1341
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: he's in his mid fifties, right, And obviously it had

1342
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: a ton of success with Philadelphia. Belichick when he got

1343
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: rehired with the Jets or excuse me, technically at the Jets,

1344
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: but then he went to the Patriots. Like when he

1345
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: first got the Brown's job, he was young, and then

1346
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: when he got rehired with the Patriots.

1347
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,879
Speaker 2: He was I think late forties, early fifties.

1348
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: It's really really difficult when you get in your sixties

1349
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: and you know, in Bruce's case, had never been ahead

1350
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. I think he was a head

1351
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: coach of Temple in the eighties. But in Spag's case,

1352
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: he was a head coach so long ago and it

1353
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: went so bad. It's just a hard sell.

1354
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: And let's face it, like.

1355
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: These owners and these gms are going to be more inclined.

1356
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: To hire offensive mines, fair or not.

1357
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: Congratulations on getting engaged.

1358
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: What is a playoff team question?

1359
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 1: You'd consider phony and we'll get bounced in the first

1360
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: round like Dallas last year for example. What's a playoff

1361
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: team you think could make noise as a wild card?

1362
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: I would say I would say the Texans and the

1363
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: Falcons are in major trouble.

1364
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: I would say both those.

1365
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: Teams, you know, if it's Packers Falcons and Chargers Ravens Texans.

1366
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: I think the teams playing at home could be one

1367
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: and done really fast. I think once you get a

1368
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: little higher. You know the Bills, you know the Steelers.

1369
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: If they're playing in a tight game, right, they're comfortable

1370
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: winning twenty one to eighteen. But you play in that

1371
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: type game where it's fifteen to fourteen midway through the

1372
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: third quarter, you're one stripsack away. You know, a fumble six.

1373
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're down twenty one to fifteen,

1374
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 1: headed into the fourth quarter and you got to go,

1375
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, eighty yards, score a touchdown, maybe seven minutes left.

1376
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: So I would say Pittsburgh.

1377
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: Would be a team just the way they play. You

1378
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: could say, I guess say the same thing about the Chiefs.

1379
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: It's just the Chiefs at.

1380
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Home are gonna just have such an advantage if they

1381
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: have the number one overall seed. I would say, whoever wins,

1382
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, if it's like Minnesota against Arizona or Seattle,

1383
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: you would say, that's easily lose that game. Chiefs have

1384
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: made at least the AFC Championship game for the last

1385
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: six years. How much of those extra games wear on

1386
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: a team if they're playing one or two more games

1387
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: a season then their closest rivals. Does that have an effect?

1388
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't see how it wouldn't, you know, I really don't.

1389
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a positive to it. You're very comfortable

1390
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: in that environment. You're very comfortable in these high stress

1391
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: millions upon millions of people are watching.

1392
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: It's win or go home.

1393
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Like you were just used to. Your core group of

1394
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: players just know how to excel in that spot. I

1395
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: also think, like I don't know, man, eventually, it's going

1396
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: to catch up to you. And I think in the

1397
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, like when you take a step

1398
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: back and look at it from twenty thousand feet, if

1399
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were to lose in the first round, let's say,

1400
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: let's just say the you know, I guess technically if

1401
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: they're the one seed to be the second round, so

1402
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: it's like the one and they're hosting the Ravens or

1403
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: they're hosting the Chargers and they were to get upset

1404
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: because they would be favored at home. It's not really

1405
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: that crazy when you say it out loud. Well, they've

1406
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: won three of the last five Super Bowls. They also

1407
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: went to another Super Bowl in that stretch, and the

1408
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: one year that they didn't make the Super Bowl, they

1409
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: lost in this crazy game to the Bengals where Mahomes

1410
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: might have had a concussion. It's like it happened to

1411
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: Brady and Belchick. They lost a ton of games, They

1412
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: lost multiple Super Bowls. They lost to Peyton Manning in

1413
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: the championship game when he was with the Colts. They

1414
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: lost to him in the championship game when he was

1415
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: with the Danver Broncos. They lost to the Jets in

1416
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: the divisional round.

1417
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 2: Shit happens.

1418
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: So I think regardless of what happens to the Chiefs

1419
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year, obviously, if they were to

1420
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, it would be one of the

1421
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: greatest achievements in the history of sports.

1422
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: It'd be like a.

1423
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: Crowning achievement for the organization, like you could argue going

1424
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: to so they would win three straight they've went in

1425
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: six years. They've been to five Super Bowls, and they've

1426
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: won four of them, with three in a row. That's

1427
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: more impressive than anything Belichick and Brady did in the

1428
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: short term.

1429
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 2: But I got no issue. If you know, it doesn't happen.

1430
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Whether the Steelers lose to a team that they're better than,

1431
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: fans call for Tomlin's head. They'll say he always lose

1432
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: the bad teams and Thalmlan should be fire. However, to me,

1433
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: the phrase any given Sunday applies. The guys on the

1434
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: other team are professional football players too. Other good teams

1435
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: lose to worse teams as well, like Baltimore losing to Vegas.

1436
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: I didn't see anyone calling for Harbaugh to be fired.

1437
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: I think the difference with Harbaugh is like John Harbaugh

1438
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: was just hosting the AFC Championship game nine months ago,

1439
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: like that happened, was hosting in favored to win that game,

1440
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: so he was the number one seed. He won a

1441
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: playoff game to host the Chiefs. Mike Tomlin, who has

1442
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 1: done a remarkable job this year, was in his finest

1443
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: moment Thursday Night, but on the whole it's been impressive.

1444
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: Has not won a playoff game since two thousand and sixteen.

1445
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: Two thousand and sixteen, we are a month and as

1446
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: of recording this about six days so give or take

1447
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: thirty seven days away from twenty twenty five. So you

1448
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: haven't won a game since twenty sixteen, a playoff game,

1449
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: and we are thirty seven days away from twenty twenty five.

1450
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: So there's a long period of like we haven't done, Dick.

1451
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: And it's not like we've been not winning, Like we're

1452
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: in the playoffs all the time, and we just never

1453
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: win playoff games, and we've hosted a couple and lost.

1454
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little past. Twenty twenty is.

1455
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,919
Speaker 2: A weird year, but they got worked by the Brownies.

1456
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: So I just think it's you become polarizing when you

1457
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: don't have playoffs success. Okay, last question, Fella, Syhawk fan

1458
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: lives in the Bay Area. I have my opinions about

1459
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: the run game in the offense, but that's not the

1460
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: subject of the mail bag question. I wanted to give

1461
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: you a break from talking about football, so here's my question.

1462
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: What are your top five favorite sporting events to help

1463
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 1: you out all this mind? The World Cup, March Madness,

1464
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: Little League World Series like that little.

1465
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: Curveball, NFL Playoffs, World Series.

1466
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: I would say, like, do we do we take the

1467
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: playoffs as a whole because I would say I would

1468
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: say Super Bowl. I would say the NFL playoffs. I

1469
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: would I would separate the NFL playoffs in the super

1470
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: Bowl playoffs are pretty awesome.

1471
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is the best.

1472
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: I would say the Master's Golf is really really high

1473
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: on my list. I would say, you know, the World

1474
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: Series when you get the good matchup like the Dodgers

1475
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: first the Yankees, and the baseball playoffs in general. I

1476
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: think there's a flow to a baseball game because the

1477
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: home crowds are incredible, the build up of each pitch

1478
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: is pretty riveting. Like I don't have a horse in

1479
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: the race, but like watching the Yankees Cleveland series was

1480
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: fucking badass. So I would obviously football, and I would

1481
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 1: include college football. Now, the college football Playoffs is gonna

1482
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: be awesome, Augustin National, the World Series slash Baseball Playoffs.

1483
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: In general, I think it's just fantastic theater. You know,

1484
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,799
Speaker 1: March Madness doesn't quite mean as much to me anymore.

1485
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: Don't know any of the playoffs or players. You know,

1486
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the legendary coaches have since retired, so

1487
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,879
Speaker 1: the group of coaches are not the group that I've.

1488
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: Grown up on. I don't know if i'd have that.

1489
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I watch it, and I

1490
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: obviously gamble on it, but I just watch it because

1491
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: it kind of everyone else feels like they're watching it,

1492
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: not because like if you told me I had to

1493
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: miss it, I wouldn't lose any sleep. So I would

1494
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: say football playoffs, super Bowl. I'm going to add now

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01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs the twelve teams, which I think

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Speaker 1: is going to be really good. I would say Augusta National,

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Speaker 1: but I think for me, you could include all the majors,

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01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: the US Open, the British Open, The PGA is by

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Speaker 1: far the worst of the four, but I still really

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, but there's a huge gap between the other three.

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Speaker 1: I think the British Open for me is pretty high

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01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: up there. Augusta's number one, but I would probably put

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01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: the British Open number two and then the US Open,

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01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: so I would cluster those together.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. When I used to work in radio,

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01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, especially local radio, you watch so much baseball

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01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: and you watch so much basketball because you're kind of

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: talking about whatever's going on in your market.

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Speaker 2: And when I worked there.

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Speaker 1: You know, these the Giants winning World Series, and the

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01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: A's were in the playoffs, and the Warriors had Steph Curry,

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01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: so it's fun to watch these things. And then you

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Speaker 1: start doing podcasts, You're like, I don't really want.

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Speaker 2: To watch this.

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Speaker 1: I still enjoy watching the Warriors because of Steph Curry,

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: but I went for like six or seven years who

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01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: I never missed a game, and part of it was

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: I was doing it for radio. But then even when

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Speaker 1: I got out from podcasting, I just enjoyed watching them.

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01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: And the longer you do, like what I'm doing now,

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: you just watch what you want to watch, and you're

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Speaker 1: like I'll figure out a way to monetize it. And

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01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: for me, it's basically just football and golf during non football,

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01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, basically after the Super Bowl through you know,

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 1: up to training camp, and then I just pick and

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: choose what I watch. Like I've never watched less NBA.

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't watch the regular season. If the

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Speaker 1: Warriors game is on, I will check it out if

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Speaker 1: they're playing a good opponent. But baseball. I grew up

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Speaker 1: loving baseball, I swear to you, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: I love the World Series and really the baseball playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I watched so many of the Yankee games. I watched

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Speaker 1: probably more Yankee games than I did even the Dodger games,

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Speaker 1: though the Dodger Padre series was good. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I watched nine any things of baseball in the regular

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01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: season total. Now, granted, like I'm a Giants fan, I

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Speaker 1: don't have like major League package, so I'm like, I'm

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 1: not gonna watch the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: I don't care tennis.

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw Rafa Nadal retired. I will say

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Speaker 1: this back in the day, you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: in college and even up through like ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: If Rafa Nadal and Roger Federer or Roger Federer and

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Speaker 1: Djokovic or whatever the matchup we're playing in the semis

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01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: or the finals. I'm not a huge tennis guy. I

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01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: wasn't missing it, and if you did turn it on

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01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: and they were playing each other, it was riveting television.

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Speaker 1: I would recommend. Rafa has not Rafa, but Roger has

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01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: a documentary on Amazon Prime. I think it might just

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01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: be called Federer. It's basically the last like ten days

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01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: he retires and then he plays this final it's called

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: like I think the Davis Cup, and he's with Rafa

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: Nadal as his teammate and they play their his last match,

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01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: and I think Rafa just officially retired, and it's just

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01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: a powerful like their careers, how they were intertwined. It's

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: a lot of like Rafa Nadal crying about Roger and

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01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: Roger crying about them.

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Speaker 2: Just it's it was a good watch.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even a big tennis guy, but it's

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Speaker 1: I would recommend it. So I appreciate it. Good question,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk soon as in tomorrow, So audios.

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Speaker 1: The volume