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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. Well, the draft is over.

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Speaker 2: People are doing their grades. Some are lamenting the fact

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Speaker 2: that people do grades. You know what, like everything else,

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Speaker 2: go back to Kevin Durant, who's gonna be sitting on

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Speaker 2: his couch pretty soon like the rest of us. You

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Speaker 2: don't like it, don't watch, don't read, don't click whatever,

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Speaker 2: move on with your life. There's plenty of other content

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Speaker 2: to consume with that high I'm Mike Carmen. Welcome in

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Speaker 2: for another beautiful edition of Fox Yeah, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It's Dan Byer alongside me, my partner on the iWatch

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Speaker 2: of Flex podcast. You hear him with Doug Gottlieb, with

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Speaker 2: Cavino and Richard during the week twelve to four Pacific time.

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Speaker 2: What's going well, buddy?

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Speaker 3: These draft grades are crazy, just for the simple fact

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Speaker 3: Mike of if you only have like five picks, no

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Speaker 3: one's giving you an a like you have to if

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Speaker 3: you're going to grade great on a curve, great on

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Speaker 3: what you had available to you, because I always feel

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Speaker 3: the teams that either made them move up or ended

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Speaker 3: up having about like twelve picks in a draft always

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Speaker 3: end up getting great draft grades because they were the

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Speaker 3: team that we heard the most. Now you also have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to cancel out some bad picks because you

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Speaker 3: have more of them. But if you're going to grade

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Speaker 3: a draft, at least do it on a curve.

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Speaker 2: Well, do the activity of the GM How active were they?

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Speaker 2: Did they get did they look like they were sweating

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Speaker 2: in the draft room like Sonny Weaver back in the

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Speaker 2: day in draft day. I mean that that's kind of

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Speaker 2: where we get to at the final analysis to your

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Speaker 2: your point of you know, how active were they in

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Speaker 2: terms of making more from what they had or did

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Speaker 2: they at least not go and draft someone that made

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Speaker 2: to the common thinking no sense, because then you kill them.

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Speaker 2: So it's one of those processes like you take it

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Speaker 2: for what it's worth and laughing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other crowd is the well, we can't judge him

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Speaker 2: for four years, like, no, that's not the way it works.

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Speaker 2: The programming is now, and we're projecting forward, just like

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Speaker 2: these guys are and making their selections.

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Speaker 3: The programming is now, But the contradictions that happen are

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Speaker 3: it's it's profound, and it's the reason why I don't

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Speaker 5: And I just go to the fact.

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Speaker 3: Of when Randy Gregory was in the draft years back

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Speaker 3: at the NFL combine. So Randy Gregory was a first

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Speaker 3: round talent who ends up falling to the second round

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Speaker 3: and the Cowboys end up taking him at that time,

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Speaker 3: and then you're saying, look at this great value, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there was a reason that he was that. And I'll

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Speaker 3: even take a more recent one, Jalen Carter last year

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Speaker 3: reason why he fell to where he fell in the

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Speaker 3: back half of the top ten because of the drama

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Speaker 3: but then you hear man, Howie Roseman did it again. No,

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Speaker 3: Howe Roseman just was willing to take the risk to

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Speaker 3: bring in Jalen Carter or nobody else was. It's not

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Speaker 3: a wasn't a master class move, and so that when

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Speaker 3: people put that as part of grades, that's what annoys me. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the talent at that spot is great, but there's a

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Speaker 3: team shouldn't necessarily be rewarded just because maybe they had

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Speaker 5: That's the stuff that I know.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the latter part, right, is that they were

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Speaker 2: So if it didn't work out and there were more

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Speaker 2: well we missed on that one. We move forward, sure, right,

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Speaker 2: then go back to Laramie Tunzel and the Darth Vader mask.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Now he's potentially a Hall of Fame guy all these

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: I remember that draft night, but it's it's all of it.

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Speaker 2: It all comes out in the wash, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: get excited when it comes playoff time. Right, Sometimes sports

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Speaker 2: front page fodder until you get to win in time.

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Speaker 2: We do it every year with college basketball because it's

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Speaker 2: overshadowed by the NFL. And then we get towards Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like hockey fan is excitable that you

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Speaker 2: a different level. For the NC DOUBLEA, we wait for

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Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA tournament, everybody predicts their upsets and gets excited.

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Speaker 2: Now we're watching the NBA playoffs, Dan, and every night

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Speaker 2: it becomes the all right, I'm gonna flip it on.

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Speaker 2: there's effort, and that's the scary part that we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: this just a all right, we were up to nothing.

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Speaker 2: We'll clap our hands and move forward. Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's as much efforts as this sense

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Speaker 3: Pelicans at Thunder were really the only matchup to really

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Speaker 3: and it went down to the final possession, so you

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Speaker 3: then why are you fighting for a seventh seed or

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Speaker 3: an eight seed during the regular season? And is that

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Speaker 3: to me signals something of something's not right, You're not

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Speaker 5: Then why do you do it? Why? Why?

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they're settling mic for the seven

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Speaker 3: And I don't think any of these teams were urgent,

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Speaker 3: it to the heat after dropping Game two. But I mean, man,

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Speaker 3: it was just it was not a great slate of basketball,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, watching last night, there are a couple of

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Speaker 2: But they survive and it's advance it. But to your

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Speaker 2: where we're at. And this year for the Lakers was

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Speaker 2: cast is important to a degree. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: bad teams in the NBA on either side of the aisle, right,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna win some of those games by default.

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Speaker 2: So the safety net of that nine to ten addition

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs because yes, if they were the seventh

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Speaker 2: and eventually you're going to have to get through Denver,

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Speaker 2: Like I understand some of the logic of you know,

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Speaker 2: the matchup side of it, but also there's no urgency

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Speaker 3: And because home court advantage really doesn't kick in until

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Speaker 3: the actual game seven, in terms of if you really

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Speaker 5: Not been that important.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you saw it a couple of years ago

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Speaker 8: First off, I know we, like you know, I've been

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Speaker 8: planning to go. A lot of that fell through, So

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Speaker 8: I think it was kind of at least fun for

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Speaker 8: me to view it from afar my connections to the city.

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Speaker 8: At least I know, like the restaurants around there, the

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Speaker 8: people who are going in. I know people have made

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Speaker 8: plans for months. But I think the big factor that

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Speaker 8: really made it as successful as it is, that that

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Speaker 8: made it bigger than Nashville, that brought in these huge,

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Speaker 8: record setting crowds, was that it did come on the

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Speaker 8: heels of the Detroit Lions having one of their most

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Speaker 8: successful and most celebrated seasons, not just successful, but celebrated,

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Speaker 8: lauded for the team, for Dan Campbell, for everything else

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Speaker 8: in recent memory. It's only a few months removed from

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Speaker 8: the Lions playing in the NFC Championship Game, and I

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Speaker 8: think that just carries it carried a lot the same

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Speaker 8: momentum from that Lion season that this is still a

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Speaker 8: feel good moment for Detroit. And there's always the emotion

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Speaker 8: when I get to see people from the outside go

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Speaker 8: to Detroit and dispel all of their held conceptions of Detroit.

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Speaker 8: That kind of comes from, you know, the national media

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Speaker 8: or people outside of what they think Detroit is. They

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Speaker 8: go there and it's like wow, it's this is different

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Speaker 8: than what I expected. This is great downtown in this

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Speaker 8: sports area. So it has that element to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 3: And and the reason I bring I wanted Chris's thoughts

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Speaker 3: and I want Ian's thoughts, Mike, is because Chris has

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Speaker 3: got a local connection. Ian's twenty years younger than we are,

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Speaker 3: you know, like you know, like in terms of what

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Speaker 3: we remember and pull back the curtain.

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Speaker 5: Dan, Hey show up. I don't know, but but I

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Speaker 5: but I am. I am fairly I'm fairly certain. I

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Speaker 5: appreciate your joke. Soul Man.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you remember New York based drafts? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're I mean, you know, I know it's your Jets fan,

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Speaker 3: it's your.

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Speaker 9: I'm twenty four, so you know I was around for

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Speaker 9: that stuff. Yeah, but I've only the only draft I've

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Speaker 9: attended was the one in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: A few years ago.

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Speaker 9: Okay, but I gotta be honest, I I really like

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Speaker 9: what it's become.

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Speaker 5: See that's I am what I was curious about.

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Speaker 9: Maybe that is like a young person's way of looking

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Speaker 9: at it, but I like, I I kind of like

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Speaker 9: that Eminem's on still. You know, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 9: It's a little like, what are you doing here, dude?

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Speaker 9: You know, like because you're hip hop. But he's an

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Speaker 9: icon in the city that it's being held in, So I,

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Speaker 9: you know, I thought there was a place for him.

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Speaker 2: Again, a younger person.

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Speaker 8: I was going to say, I also attended in twenty

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Speaker 8: seventeen the Draft in Philadelphia, and like, with no connections

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Speaker 8: to Philadelphia, we'd gone out there with a couple of friends,

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Speaker 8: but like I was blown away by the Philadelphia crowd too.

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Speaker 8: So I think there is something to just, you know,

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Speaker 8: to what Ian's saying, that there is something Getting to

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Speaker 8: see each fan base's culture on display is something remarkable.

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Speaker 8: It's not always going to be a hit, and it's

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Speaker 8: not always going to be a hit. I don't think

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Speaker 8: we could hold this, and like say, Jacksonville and I

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Speaker 8: have questions about the capacity in Green Bay for two

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Speaker 8: hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 2: But you know, well, there's a lot of open space

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay right there is.

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Speaker 3: They're not having it on a farm in pastic They

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Speaker 3: could have.

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Speaker 2: Been around that state. There's land even right around this date.

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Speaker 9: Ye.

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Speaker 3: In fact, houses are being knocked down where my family

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Speaker 3: would part at Packer games. That house no longer exists

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Speaker 3: because the packers have taken it over for their own space.

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Speaker 3: But they're gonna be fine. They're going to figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to do it. And that's that's the point

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Speaker 3: of it is. There's so Chris and Ian if both

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Speaker 3: attended NFL drafts for whatever reason, you attending a New

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Speaker 3: York draft is like it's there's not a long like

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Speaker 3: there there are more people who have attended these drafts

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Speaker 3: than it ever attended in New York draft because of

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Speaker 3: just I mean, heck, if you have two hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty thousand and basically you know probably yeah exactly at

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Speaker 3: Radio City Music Hall, for surely.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate it, like, look, you know me, we've

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Speaker 2: known each other a long time. The guys as well.

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Speaker 2: Like I love live events more than anything, Like it's

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Speaker 2: the lifeblood of of If I can get to a concert,

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Speaker 2: I can get to theater. I'm there like schedule permitting,

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Speaker 2: my daughter's wanting to roll up. We go to anything

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Speaker 2: and everything that is available to us because that's where

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Speaker 2: you have all the energy going into the same same

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Speaker 2: direct Right outside of your church, synagogues, your house of worship,

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Speaker 2: that's the only place that happens is in that kind

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Speaker 2: of environment. Right live live concerts, you may not like

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Speaker 2: their set list, you may be mad they left your

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Speaker 2: favorite song off, but you're still celebrating the artists. Sporting events,

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Speaker 2: we may hate each other's teams, but we're still there

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Speaker 2: to celebrate the game we love and watch the game

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Speaker 2: we love, be it soccer, be it the NFL, be

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Speaker 2: it even the NBA where blowouts rein supreme. But it's

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Speaker 2: but it's that idea for me, so I appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one level, no question, I'd love to go experience one.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay would be a hell of a time to

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Speaker 2: go go back towards home, right being a Midwesterner and

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Speaker 2: and seeing that on display, I think would be great,

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Speaker 2: like great hospitality anytime I've traveled through there. It would

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Speaker 2: be fun to see, like like Chris said, with Detroit

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Speaker 2: people getting to experience that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and want to just find so interesting is again,

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Speaker 3: even in this draft that we just have, we had

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Speaker 3: known the number one overall pick, but still there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of hype around it the draft classroom. You

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Speaker 3: have the six quarterbacks and obviously the Penick story. There

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Speaker 3: a majority of these picks, the two hundred thousand people

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Speaker 3: don't really care that are there. And that's why I

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Speaker 3: was really curious about Ian's thoughts on it, because it

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Speaker 3: is a new age draft and as you and I

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Speaker 3: talked about, it always seemed to be about the drama

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Speaker 3: and what it is, and this is about the show

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Speaker 3: and to your point about the live events and concerts,

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Speaker 3: that's you're right, that's what this is. And when Roger

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Speaker 3: Goodell says that we are having more cities, there's better

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Speaker 3: competition to host the Draft than there are super Bowls

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Speaker 3: because not everybody can host super Bowls, I find it

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Speaker 3: pretty interesting. And so that seven hundred thousand number is

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Speaker 3: also a hey, all you other NFL cities, if you

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Speaker 3: want seven hundred thousand people, eight hundred thousand people in

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Speaker 3: your downtown area over a three day weekend, that could

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Speaker 3: help with restaurants, hotels, and everything else you may want

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Speaker 3: to bid on this, so it's good. It goes back

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Speaker 3: to the business, It goes back to the dollars, goes

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Speaker 3: back to you know, the NFL just being completely mainstream.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with NFL, you know, putting EM

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Speaker 3: and M on stage. I think it's awesome. I just

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Speaker 3: think they do it to soften the blow that Roger

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Speaker 3: Goodell's getting, you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know he's also got a new album coming out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect album.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But it just it's so much about the marketing

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Speaker 3: of it, marketing of it, than it is of the

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Speaker 3: actual draft.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to like Roger Goodell, and many people

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Speaker 2: don't correct, but you want to talk about business acumen

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Speaker 2: and directing this thing forward. Remember a couple of years

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Speaker 2: ago when everybody was saying it was dying. I can

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Speaker 2: only laugh at Dan Byer on Fox. Where you find Dan,

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollendome, find Chris at Chris Purfett.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to turn our attention to our man,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Loewenkron with an update of our sporting universe. What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 10: I love The latest update is you guys have sent

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Speaker 10: me down the NFL draft rabbit hole with all this

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Speaker 10: talk about the history of the NFL draft and the locations,

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Speaker 10: and within the last few minutes and listening to your discussion,

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Speaker 10: I found out that for about four years in the

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Speaker 10: nineteen fifties, they held the first three rounds of the

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Speaker 10: draft in November, and then they held the final twenty

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Speaker 10: seven rounds of the draft.

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Speaker 2: Two months later.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 10: So the seven the first three rounds were in November

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Speaker 10: in Philadelphia and the final twenty seven rounds were two

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Speaker 10: months later in Los Angeles. So I remember the NFL

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Speaker 10: Draft in the Radio City musical. I had no idea

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Speaker 10: until you guys brought it up that the NFL Draft

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Speaker 10: used to take place over a couple of months.

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Speaker 2: So that's your NFL draft history.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, if they were really, really smart

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Speaker 3: back then, they would have been trading a twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth round pick.

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Speaker 5: You know, like that. That really would have been smart business.

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Speaker 10: But you know, that's a great idea that would have

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Speaker 10: really livened things though.

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Speaker 2: So ten years down in the future, I will give

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Speaker 2: you our first round pick twenty thirty four. Let's go.

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Speaker 10: I'd hate to be holding the Portsmouth Spartan's nineteen thirty

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Speaker 10: six second round.

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Speaker 2: What do you do with that?

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Speaker 10: We waited eighty eight years and they don't even exist anymore.

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Speaker 10: Speaking of not existing anymore, the Los Angeles Lakers almost

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Speaker 10: did not exist, but they kept their season alive on

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Speaker 10: Saturday night with a one nineteen to one toh eight

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Speaker 10: win over Denver, breaking an eleven game head to head

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Speaker 10: losing streak with Denver one nineteen to one. Await the

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Speaker 10: final score, but Denver still leads a series three games

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Speaker 10: to won. Lebron James score thirty, Anthony Davis twenty five

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Speaker 10: points and twenty three rebounds, Nikola Jokic thirty three three points,

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Speaker 10: fourteen rebounds and fourteen assists, a triple double in a

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Speaker 10: losing cause. Earlier Saturday night, the Boston Celtics won in Miami,

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Speaker 10: what four to eighty four for a two games to

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Speaker 10: one lead. In Game three of the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

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Speaker 10: On Saturday night, the Dallas Stars and Vegas Golden Knights

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Speaker 10: were in overtime, tied at two. Here is Josh bogorad

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Speaker 10: on KTCK Johnston delay.

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Speaker 2: Shoots his scars, Go Wight upstairs.

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Speaker 9: One shot.

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Speaker 6: Won's the hero The Stars win Game three.

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Speaker 2: And we've got ourselves this series.

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Speaker 10: Vegas still leads the series two games to one. That

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Speaker 10: was Johnston's second goal of the game. Baseball Saturday night,

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Speaker 10: the Philadelphia Phillies won at San Diego five to one.

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Speaker 10: Phillies pitcher Rangers Suarez eight innings allowed one to one

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Speaker 10: on three hits, eight strikeouts, no walks. Rangers Suarez is

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Speaker 10: now five to zero with a one point three to

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Speaker 10: two ERA. And here's your Ranger Suarez trivia. I'm not

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Speaker 10: making this up. Ranger Suarez has a sister named Ranger Lynn.

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Speaker 10: Really Ranger Lynn, Big Chuck Norris fans what apparently, so

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Speaker 10: you got Ranger and Ranger Lynn.

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Speaker 5: I think you also buried the lead.

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Speaker 3: Isaac lon Kron Harmon's White Sox are on a winning streak.

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Speaker 5: It's right, yes, of two right now.

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Speaker 2: My mom's losing it because they're down north towards Tampa.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that they're beating the Rays. But it's

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Speaker 2: funny you bring it up. The defunct NFL teams makes

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Speaker 2: me think of when you'd win. You know, they have

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Speaker 2: these different awards you get in grade school, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of local businesses would be part of the action.

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Speaker 2: If you go around and try to get donations whatever.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes they wouldn't quite recognize that that local business

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Speaker 2: dollars to the you know, yogurt shop or the frozen

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Speaker 2: can I trade this? Like that's all we got.

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Speaker 3: You could come over for ice cream in my house.

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Speaker 3: That's that's about it. That's all you can do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you get.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's here's a here's a coupon for blue Bunny.

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Speaker 3: What are your grocery store?

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Speaker 2: And there you had it. He's an hit fire at

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Speaker 2: had the call on Angel City on Friday night. H

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Speaker 2: a tough one in extra time, three to one, and

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Speaker 2: we've got Arsenal putting it all over Tottenham uh at

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Speaker 2: forty first minute because we got we got our international

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Speaker 2: listeners on the iHeartRadio app. Of course, Hey, coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Impact of the Draft, which rookies are you gonna

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Speaker 2: be targeting early in your twenty twenty four selections? We'll

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Speaker 2: do that next here on Fox.

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Speaker 2: and inform you here from our Bully pulpits as we

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Speaker 2: celebrate all things draft, the NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs.

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00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: My team not participating, and that's fine, and the Bulls

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00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: were a nice early exit. But you know, there is hope,

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Speaker 2: and as we know from Shawshank redemption Dan Bayer, hope

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Speaker 2: is either the best of things or it's the most

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Speaker 2: dangerous of things. And well that's what we get coming

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Speaker 2: out of the NFL Draft weekend. So from the positive perspective.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk fantasy impact of some of these rookies and

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Speaker 2: what we're looking at for our draft day experience. We

694
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Speaker 2: did a five round mock draft proceeding the draft. I

695
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Speaker 2: think we had a couple of rookies crack that list.

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Speaker 2: You can find that wherever great audio is found, wherever

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Speaker 2: you get your podcast, go and find the iewatch flex podcast.

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Speaker 2: But you know one of your guys right off the board,

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Speaker 2: and I know you were salty that he stayed in

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Speaker 2: the NFC West, but I mean, Marvin Harrison, I think

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Speaker 2: the over under on is receiving yards is of thousand.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: That does not surprise me though, because even if you

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Speaker 3: were to take the other wide receivers that wentz in

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Speaker 3: that top ten and Dunza going to the Bears and

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Speaker 3: Elik Neighbors obviously going to the Giants, the opportunity in

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Speaker 3: Arizona of wide open, like it's He's w R one

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Speaker 3: right away and Malik Neighbors maybe that with the Giants,

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Speaker 3: but I would rather have Kyler Murray throwing the football

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Speaker 3: than Daniel Jones. And Arizona still a team that's making

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Speaker 3: its way up and building its way up, So I

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Speaker 3: think he is the far away.

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Speaker 5: Really the the.

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Speaker 3: The guy if you were talking rookie wise, to make

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Speaker 3: an impact, especially from you know, the first rounders. Heck,

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Speaker 3: even brock Bowers is now in a bit of a

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Speaker 3: committee you know with the Raiders, you know, just like

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Speaker 3: duns would would be with the Bears. You expect maybe

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get more favorable coverage considering you have DJ

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Speaker 3: Moore and Keenan Allen there as well. But yeah, Harrison

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Speaker 3: to me, just far and away, and even Mike even

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Speaker 3: if just in Arizona, like they drafted Trey Bentzon, the

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Speaker 3: running back from Florida State in the third round. When

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Speaker 3: you look at how the running backs and the running

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Speaker 3: back you were none in the first round that were

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Speaker 3: drafted or you know, on on Thursday, that could be

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Speaker 3: a spot. So maybe Arizona is now this place where

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, okay, maybe you can find some

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Speaker 3: fantasy value. But Harrison, uh my, no brainer for sure.

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Speaker 3: Benson my sleeper that you could get something from in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned in Dona and he's one of those interesting spots.

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Speaker 2: It seems like it's a feast or famine kind of

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Speaker 2: situation with the number of weapons because you added DeAndre Swift,

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Speaker 2: you have Everett and Comet at tight end, and obviously

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Speaker 2: DJ Moore and Keenan Allen a lot of mouths to feed.

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna be games where it's gonna work. And

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Speaker 2: let's face it, nobody's banking on Keenan Allen to play

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Speaker 2: seventeen games on that soldier field surface, because that's something

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's been talked about as much as Oh,

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Speaker 2: he goes to Chicago and there's Caleb Williams and look

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Speaker 2: as much as we and we'll talk about Caleb a

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00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: bit more like you talk about coming into a sweet situation,

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Speaker 2: like they built a very nice soft landing for him,

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Speaker 2: because just the quick comparison to the wide receivers that

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields came into the Bears organization with really as

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Speaker 2: Ben was one of the starting wide receivers when Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields Okay, like again, NFL player gotta career, But that's

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Speaker 2: not Keenan Allen, that's not Dj Moore to bring it in.

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Speaker 2: I think it's curious what they did in Carolina. You

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Speaker 2: got a couple of guys that should be able to

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Speaker 2: make an impact if you believe that they can turn

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Speaker 2: things up, and that Canalis can fix some things, right,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. One of the great stories of the draft

756
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Speaker 2: because after Night one, Jerry Jones doing his State of

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Speaker 2: the Union talking about how much he loved him and

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Speaker 2: was all excited, and then Carolina went and drafted him

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Speaker 2: ahead of doubt having the opportunity to do so. And look,

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders and Chewba Hubbard, they're guys at this point, right,

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Speaker 2: And especially with Sanders, I think the recognition of you know,

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Speaker 2: how much that offensive line in Philly really made him

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Speaker 2: look better than he was. Xavier Worthy to me is

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Speaker 2: interesting there in Kansas City because we don't know what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen with Rashid Rice, Travis Kelce older regular season.

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Speaker 2: He's almost like the NBA conversation. We're having a bit

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Speaker 2: of load management where we don't have to kill him

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Speaker 2: because we know we need him for the playoffs to

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Speaker 2: step up big and worthy being the speeds that he is.

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Speaker 2: And obviously Keon Coleman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, almost by default, right, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's it, like he becomes de facto potential monster there

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Speaker 2: for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: And considering that Buffalo had made those trades and we're

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Speaker 3: still willing. And then to Coleman where they did makes

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Speaker 3: me think that there's even more belief in him in

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Speaker 3: being able to contribute to that offense the way they need.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Byer. So much more to talk about from

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft as we continue at Dan Byer on

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Speaker 2: Fox find me over at Swollen Dohm. You have some

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Speaker 2: fantasy questions that you want to gain of of course,

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Speaker 2: kick him over our way as well. Coming up next

783
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Speaker 2: more from the NFL Draft, and we'll go back to

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Speaker 2: the number one spot and the juxtaposition with number eight.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that next.

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Speaker 2: sports coming up, I mean, really replete with so many things.

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Speaker 2: The NHL playoffs. We've got the NBA playoffs. We'll see

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Speaker 2: who gets blown out today. I mean that's really kind

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Speaker 2: of where we're at. It's Dan Byer next to me

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Speaker 2: here along with you.

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Speaker 5: And that one also may hit a little closer to home.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't I mean, it wasn't staring at you with

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00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: a Bucks logo in my hand at that point. Are

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Speaker 2: you suiting up.

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Speaker 5: For this one? I may have to, right they.

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Speaker 3: I'd give them the about what they would expect or

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Speaker 3: what they got in Game two, which wouldn't be But

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Speaker 3: if you don't, it's tough enough without Yiannis. And again,

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Speaker 3: it's not like this team didn't have issues heading into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs if everybody was healthy. Right now, you take

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Speaker 3: Giannis and Damian Lillard out and like, is there is

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Speaker 3: there even a reason to rush Giannis back? The answer

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Speaker 3: is no, like absolutely not. Probably actually gives you more

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Speaker 3: of a reason to just be like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: it's not it's not our it's not our deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lillard with the Achilles diagnosed. So, although it was

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: really interesting watching Middleton take over that game, the bank

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00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: shot and then the fade away, it's like, is he

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00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: gonna hit it? Are we getting another overtime and then

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00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: it falls harmlessly off the rim. But hell of an

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Speaker 2: effort from him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, heck of an effort for sure, especially considering that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think a lot of people are wondering,

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Speaker 3: like how much is actually left in his tank for

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Speaker 3: considering the injuries that he's battled over these last couple

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Speaker 3: of years, that, by the way, will not be better

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Speaker 3: in the future. It will only be getting likely beginning worse.

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Speaker 3: So it was nice to see him have that moment.

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Speaker 3: But there's you know, scenario in that Game three on

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Speaker 3: Friday where Indiana is just keeping the ball basically for

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Speaker 3: a minute because the Bucks couldn't get an offensive rebound,

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Speaker 3: and there were just so many reasons why I twooted

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Speaker 3: about the officiating that may have been in the moment

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Speaker 3: a little little eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm not say disagreed with you, though there were number

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Speaker 2: of really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're doing balls.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was a bit frustrating, but yeah, I mean, heck,

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Speaker 3: you look at even look at the lines today in

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Speaker 3: what we've what we've got, the Bucks are almost a

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Speaker 3: ten point dog.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and by the way, probably rightly so.

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Speaker 3: Without Giannis and Damian Lillar nine and a half on

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Speaker 3: the road, total to sixteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: For those paying attention, we've got Clippers, Mavericks. The early game,

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Speaker 2: the Nicks and seventy six ers. We talked a lot

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Speaker 2: about tackling skills the last couple of days in the

847
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Joel Embiid tried to do his best the

848
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Speaker 2: other night in what can only be described as a

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Speaker 2: desperate and a dirty play under the rim as he

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00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: went for the to grab and wrap the legs of

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Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson underneath the basket. And he's gone through all

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00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: sorts of crap. I mean where he's at right now physically,

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00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about Bell's palsy, his knee injury.

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00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean you watch him labor up and down. He's

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00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: basically dragging one of his legs. Still doesn't excuse that

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00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: play by in any way, shape or form. But for

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00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: the Knicks, I mean they're relentless. I mean they've taken

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00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: on the Tom Thibodeau persona and as of yet, they

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00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: haven't been run into the ground like so many Thibodeaux

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Speaker 2: teams of the past.

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Speaker 3: I find for as much as we complained about what

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Speaker 3: has gone on with some of these blowouts here in

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Speaker 3: the first round. When we do get to the Conference semis,

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Speaker 3: if it plays out how I feel that it's going

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Speaker 3: to play out Celtics and Orlando or Cleveland whoever's that's fine.

866
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: It's probably the least intriguing of the four. But you

867
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: could have a Knicks Pacers revival if the Knicks survivor.

868
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Many times do we see Reggie Millers right over?

869
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, like that's that one necessarily be bad.

870
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: And then you go to the West and you see,

871
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: all right, if Dallas continues to pull this out, now

872
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: you've got them in Oklahoma City, and what a great series.

873
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: And then on the other side, the one team that

874
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: no one talks about is Minnesota and for matching up

875
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: against Denver no matter whatever Denver's series, however long it

876
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: lasts with the Lakers, but that's some really good stuff.

877
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: And with some new teams and some new blood. Yeah,

878
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Minnesota enters tonight a favorite on the road

879
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: against Phoenix, which just does it they're a better basketball team,

880
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: but also maybe tells you that maybe Vegas doesn't think

881
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: that there's going to be a spirited effort of the

882
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: Suns to keep their season alive, but I think it's

883
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: more of the you know, the former than the latter.

884
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think we could be setting up for

885
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: a really good conference semi finals. And I hope so,

886
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: because so far it hasn't been that great in the

887
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: NBA playoffs as as we've talked about it.

888
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Well, what's funny, though, Dan, is you know the other

889
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: side conversation. All of this goes to, you know what

890
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: you said in your analysis there of these young teams

891
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: and new faces right Denver, we've seen them, we know them,

892
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: we love them. Luca's gotten a lot of run, but

893
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: for some of these other squads, it's the introduction. So

894
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: we won't have Kevin Durant, we won't have Lebron James,

895
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's already on the golf course, and go on

896
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: down the line. That changing in the guard and people

897
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: do the lamentation because for whatever reason, it seems like

898
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: the more fractured programming has become of I've got to

899
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: go find this and if you have noticed, they're doing

900
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: bet casts for games on True TV as part of this, right,

901
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: so you've got your t When I go on my

902
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: YouTube TV subscription and I go to log in and

903
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: view an NBA game, it says would you like to

904
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 2: watch it here? Or would you like to watch it here?

905
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a third option if it's available in Spanish,

906
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: but it becomes the you know, here's TNT and here's

907
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: the true TV betcam. So you got coachs doing the

908
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: live betting analysis and discussions. As will continue to see

909
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: that grow. But folks get so caught up in TV

910
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: ratings for everything and comparing and contrasting. And again I

911
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: said it in an hour, Wan, I say it here.

912
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, you're not gonna watch just

913
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: But if you're into the NBA, guess what, You're gonna

914
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: embrace the new teams, the new guys. And if you

915
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: don't like watching Edwards play basketball, then you really don't

916
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: like basketball. Yes, so you should go do something else anyway.

917
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: But it's that kind of thing. You stop looking at

918
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: the logos we talk about for fantasy for all the

919
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: years we've been doing the podcast, you're gonna find stats,

920
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: no matter how horrid the team may be. Somebody on

921
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: that squad is gonna help you to a fantasy title.

922
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, And this is and this is the

923
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 3: thing about Minnesota is that it isn't just Anthony Edwards,

924
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: and it isn't just Anthony Edwards. And you know Carl

925
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: Anthony Towns. You know, Jane McDaniels had a you know,

926
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: big game in Game three. Like they have got pieces

927
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: around them. Heck, it's why they honestly, it's why they

928
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: were in contention for the number one overall seed up

929
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: until you know the end of the Ratlar season.

930
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple of guys that came from other squads.

931
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 5: Right, naz Reid's great Alexander.

932
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Walker was a guy who was an afterthought, comes to Minnesota.

933
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Now he's he's a guy averaging fifteen a night in

934
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: the regular season.

935
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: Right.

936
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: You find these these these gems along the way. So

937
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: we'll we'll see how that plays. But yeah, these sons

938
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: trying to avoid elimination. Your final game tonight. But as

939
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: we're talking about the NFL Draft, much more on it

940
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: as we go. We got a little bit of golf

941
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: to get to it. And what a couple of teams

942
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how they're navigating going forward. Dan,

943
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: you know the juxtaposition the celebration in Chicago the night

944
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: before or the day before the draft. They have this

945
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: big pump and circumstance and presentation about here's the stadium

946
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: we want to build on the lake front. We're only

947
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: going to need two point three billion dollars of your

948
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: public money to do it. We'll start with the prayer session.

949
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: And I get it. We're on a Sunday. I'm not

950
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: going against the man and his mission and what he

951
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: does in the pulpit, but for this event to be

952
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: praying for wins and for money to more or less

953
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: fall from the sky, when you've got representatives of different

954
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: unions there that are also in the middle of negotiations

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: and battles for public funds, you know, teacher salaries and

956
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: things of that nature, just seemed a little bit odd.

957
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 5: Away.

958
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: The next day, Caleb Williams gets drafted. All is right

959
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: with the world and the Bears quote didn't screw it

960
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: up the number of times I saw that in my

961
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: social media, wondering if at the last minute suddenly they'd

962
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: decide to zag when everything seems so right, And certainly

963
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: the betting odds told you that of Caleb Williams. But

964
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: you have that and then at eight got a straightforward draft, right.

965
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you were doing a rock draft,

966
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: which I did. I got my SAT points for putting

967
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams first, and then I had the five and

968
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: seven flopped. I had Latham going to the Chargers thinking,

969
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: all right, they signed re signed their right tackle, but

970
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: maybe Latham was the fit, and all well, they flipped

971
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: that fine, Tennessee takes him, Neighbors goes six. But then

972
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: the Michael Pennock selection. Immediately you just it's the record

973
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: scratch moment. Yes, of all right, you spent all this money,

974
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is coming in, and you could try to

975
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: sell me on insurance policies and all of that stuff.

976
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Trying to compare one to one what the Packers did

977
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: a few years ago to what the Falcons did to

978
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: me is just a false equivalence on so many levels.

979
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: But what's also been I think a disappointing part of

980
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: it is it became a further dissection of Michael Pennis

981
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: the player, when that shouldn't. It's all about the organizational

982
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: pick rather than the player coming in at eight, right,

983
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: Michael Penix was probably gonna go no later than thirteenth,

984
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: or so we thought. And when the pick first first

985
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: got announced, I'm like, who did they draft for sure,

986
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: or you had the other thing of all right, who

987
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: do they draft for because they're getting hit with tampering

988
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: sanctions for the Kirk Cousins negotiations. Is this how it

989
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: manifests me?

990
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

991
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: And instead we start dissecting it. But what was disheartening

992
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: was all right, now we're gonna go back and pick

993
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: apart all the things on Michael Pennocks. No, we did

994
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: that in the analysis. This is now about the Falcons

995
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: and the organization.

996
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: Well, there's and that unfortunately for Michael Pennix, and I

997
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: guess unfortunately for the Falcons who put themselves in that situation.

998
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 3: It comes with the territory. The you know, the fact

999
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: of the matter is likely after one season of Sam Darnold,

1000
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: Minnesota's gonna hand the keys over to JJ McCarthy and

1001
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: will things will move on from there. Kayler Williams is

1002
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: going to get the keys of the vehicle on on

1003
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: day one, you know, I mean, Jayden Daniels, you know,

1004
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: same thing if you want, like this is this is

1005
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: your show, let's do this. Drake May and New England,

1006
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, like those those situations are set up for

1007
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: those guys too, sooner rather than later take over that organization,

1008
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: and now Pennix, who might it's crazy to think that

1009
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: age can be used against you, but because it's happens

1010
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: in the NBA, he's a senior who would want you

1011
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: know that gold of God? Yes, yes, you like there

1012
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: was even a little of that with Michael Pennix and

1013
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: it It may not, it may not be fair. But

1014
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: when you're trying to make sense of of what the

1015
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: Falcons did, because the pick just really it made no

1016
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: sense at all. In any point that you can make,

1017
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: you could come up with a counterpoint or rebuttal to it.

1018
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: There's there has not been one scenario that has been

1019
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: thought through that hasn't been flagged by someone saying, well, yeah,

1020
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: but then what about this? Then why did you do

1021
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: this or why were your actions that? And I and

1022
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: I get Atlanta wanting to sit there and say to themselves,

1023
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, we want to shore up our quarterback room

1024
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: for the next you know, however long even if if

1025
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: that was the case, like why it just it it

1026
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense because Pennix was never thought to be

1027
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: a top ten guy, and throughout this whole process, so

1028
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: in March, when you're the first to take kirk Cousins

1029
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: because that deal. Again you mentioned the tampering charges. Not

1030
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: only did they sign kirk Cousins, they wanted him so

1031
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: bad that they were willing to maybe break the rules

1032
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: to do so. And then you do this. It just

1033
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't add up at all, whether it's health, whether

1034
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 3: it's Pennix's health. The two years you talk about the

1035
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: Packers situation, Yeah, nothing like Packers weren't signing Aaron Rodgers

1036
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: to free agency the year that they you know, in

1037
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: free agency, the year that they drafted Jordan Love. None

1038
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: of it makes sense and I and I just don't

1039
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: know how, especially when you're picking in the top eight

1040
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: and you really could have a team that could win

1041
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: the division or even challenge for the NFC, as crazy

1042
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: as that sounds. That's why you brought in kirk Cousins

1043
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: to be an NFC contender. You could have added a

1044
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: player of that caliber to your roster, and you failed

1045
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: to do so, completely missed by the Atlanta Falcons.

1046
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: Just if things break right to your point, they can

1047
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: win the division and suddenly be challenging for much bigger

1048
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: stakes because that offense is replete with weapons. I don't

1049
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: know if you know and this was the best joke

1050
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: I think on Draft night. It's like, for the second

1051
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: straight year, the Falcons drafted a guy they won't use

1052
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: in the first round owing to the fact for fantasy owners,

1053
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, well, yeah, if you went after b John Robinson,

1054
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: he was in a box for much of the year.

1055
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 5: Well at number eight overall as well, well there you.

1056
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 2: Go, all right, and then number eight you know Kyle

1057
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Pitts's who's that guy? But you've got weapons across the board, right,

1058
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: you had a couple of wide receivers you've been I

1059
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: love them as ones, but they're being brought in to

1060
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: be two, three, four. Right. You look at Mooney and

1061
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: was it Rondell Moore? Right? Is there that you know

1062
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: you've built this offense and you still had every defensive

1063
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: player you could possibly want sitting in that spot.

1064
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1065
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: Right, any edge rusher that you wanted to bring in

1066
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: to help you know what? What's kind of cycled there

1067
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: because you have a good offensive line, one of the

1068
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: best in the game the last couple of years, you've

1069
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: been able to effectively run the ball. And in theory,

1070
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: you went in for Kirk Cousins and paid him what

1071
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 2: you did one hundred million guarantee and I know it's

1072
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: two years, is ninety million of it, And that's been

1073
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: one of the justifications. Again, it's ninety million dollars that

1074
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: you spent to bring this guy in to win, and

1075
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: then immediately it's instead of making it better about winning

1076
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: right now, it's you know, my mom always had to

1077
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: say it phrase, I'm gonna save this for good. Hi Mom,

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Speaker 2: if you're listening, I know you guys were a little

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: bit earlier out there in Florida. It's the save it

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: for good to where you have something, right we would

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00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: buy or a nice top or or something for the

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00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: kitchen or whatever. It was as like, I'm gonna save

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00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 2: it for good. Well, the good doesn't always necessarily come

1084
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: in short order, right, So it goes to the back

1085
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: of the closet, or it goes in, you know, into

1086
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: a cabinet, and it's forgotten about. And for Michael Pennix,

1087
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: by time he may see the field, it's either year

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00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: three or year four. If the kirk Cousins purchase works.

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: It also fly in the face of what today's NFL is.

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that the Falcons have to go

1091
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: along with group think and do what everybody does. But

1092
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: why if you're Atlanta, would you say to yourself, all right,

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00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: we want to tie up our next not only in

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: their scenario of it working, Mike, in their scenario of

1095
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: it working, we want to tie up eight of our

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: next ten years with an extreme quarterback salary of forty

1097
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: million dollars plus, because that's what you.

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: Would be doing.

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Speaker 3: If their plan works, meaning Cousins is their god for

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Speaker 3: two years, then Penix takes over, well, Penix takes over

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: in what year three, and then after year three he's

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00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: eligible for an extension and to that point where maybe

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00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: you don't have to give it to him, but that

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: would be the point. So then if it works out

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00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: to how you planned it, now you're having to pay

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00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix after just one year and give him that

1107
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: sort of contract. That doesn't make sense. It doesn't make

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00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: sense at all. Green Bay situation was so completely different

1109
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: and with no guarantee, and again Jordan Love was taking

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: twenty sixth overall in the NFL draft, talking about a

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: top ten pick. Then now you're gonna maybe have to

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: end up paying without the information that you would gather

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: than all these other teams and teams are moving off

1114
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: of their top ten picks in two years in the NFL,

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: if you're the a lot of falcons, you're gonna have

1116
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: zero information about your draft pick in your presumed and

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00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: am using air quotes's best case scenario.

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: What's funny is that camera's on, so we got the

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: air quotes on us. He's Dan Bayer at Dan Byer

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Speaker 2: on Fox. Find me over at Swollen Dome. It's Fox

1121
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we'll

1122
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: turn our attention to the golf world, one of Dan's passions.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm a casual, but when some of the headlines break

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: through and you see some of the crowds, it's worth

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Speaker 2: noting on a Sunday morning, let's get after it. Next

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Speaker 2: here on Fox. Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday Here,

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00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Karmen, Dan Bayer with you here, Thanks

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: for being with us. We've got I and we've got

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00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Chris and Isaac. We'll get the family together a little bit.

1130
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: We got to have a meeting and it means we

1131
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: play some games, of course, Dan as we do. So

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Speaker 2: you know, Thoroughbred racing has a new independent regulator HAISA,

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00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: and that's there implementing comprehensive reforms, and the sport is

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: combining hands on care with cutting edge technology to help

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: keep its athletes safe. To learn more, visit Safety Runs

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Speaker 2: First dot Com. Safety Runs First dot Com. Even though

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: I won't be able to actually go to the derby,

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: my brothers will be there, as I mentioned last hour,

1139
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: I'll still dress up for the part like I was

1140
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: on the infield, you know, like you see the pompits,

1141
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: are you.

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00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: Will on Saturday?

1143
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: On Saturday?

1144
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 5: Okay?

1145
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: Then you have to and where will you be going

1146
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: next Saturday? Or I'm not going anywhere? So it's just

1147
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: my house okay, But I'm gonna dress the part like

1148
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm barted the pagetrin. I mean paramutual wagering online, you know,

1149
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: good times. California can't bet yet, but you can bet

1150
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: the horse races. I would say that I appreciate the

1151
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: commitment because there are other events I I appreciate your

1152
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: commitments of the Kentucky Derby.

1153
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: It's one of those things we grew up. What my

1154
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: dad's hobby is the one thing kind of did other

1155
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: than occasional concerts and home games, but was horse racing. Sure,

1156
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: and so you learn the systems you go to play it.

1157
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: We had the tracks around Chicago. Uh many a late

1158
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: night burrito after a night at the track. Uh We

1159
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: had one place I called Burrito's as big as your

1160
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: head was there tagging, Yes, really stretched it when my

1161
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: brothers and I came to town. Let me tell you,

1162
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: a dome moniker has its origins, no question about it.

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm trying to think of what was what was

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: the place called? Well, we had l Farole, That's what

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: it was, all right, Okay? Yeah, and then then other

1166
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: places have used that as well. Yeah, but yeah, plenty

1167
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: plenty of joints.

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Speaker 2: And Matt Money Smith, he's got his history in the

1169
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: Chicago Indiana's Eyes and such. You'll mention it here locally

1170
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: on five seventy five seventy LA Sports here he and

1171
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,479
Speaker 2: Petros he's voice of the Chargers as well. But he'll

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01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: mention it in passing. Once in a while, I will

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: communicate about our favorite haunts, kind of like I was

1174
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: doing with Chris Purfett talking about different recommendations he had

1175
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: for people if they were going to Detroit for the

1176
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: draft of places to check out. Now, if you were

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: going to say a live golf tournament, Dan, and I

1178
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: know you're not the biggest of the live golf supporters

1179
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: in this world. Adelaide would be a pretty good place

1180
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: to go hang out.

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, apparently so. And Mike is right.

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: I loathe live golf. I can't stand it. I've just

1183
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't even understand fully. I mean, I do, but

1184
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't. It's one of those things like I get it.

1185
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: I hear the rhetoric, I know the dollar signs that

1186
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: get with it, but I just I don't like what

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: it's done with the PGA Tour. And it's not that

1188
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour was innocent in their dealings and maybe

1189
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: how they distributed money, and but it's just the fact

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: of is I think that it's really hurt the tour.

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: What it's done is it's hurt the communities that supported

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour for so long, and there's going to

1193
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: be a lasting effect because you're catering to these top players.

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: And I just felt I know that golf is driven

1195
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: by the top players, but it wasn't always like that,

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: and now it feels like it's that way. And so

1197
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: you take a bunch of these great players, you move

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Speaker 3: them to live golf, and now I feel that you

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Speaker 3: have two golf products that really aren't drawing the interest.

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: But I will say that the success for the second

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01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: straight year that Live Golf has had in Australia at

1202
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: this event at Adelaide is tells us a lot about something.

1203
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: And what it tells us is that while the PGA

1204
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: Tour may have had issues and maybe some of the

1205
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: events weren't as marquee as other ones, I always felt

1206
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: that that was okay because I always use the Quad

1207
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: Cities and the John Deere Classic as an example of

1208
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't one of those tournaments that Tiger Woods is

1209
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: teeing up every single week and got moved around on

1210
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: the schedule. But I think it meant a lot to

1211
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: the Quad Cities, you know, to have that, to have

1212
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: that road show come to your town. And now with

1213
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: the amount of money that was needed with certain purses,

1214
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: sponsorships are harder to come by, you're trying to find

1215
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: that cash. How much do the little guys end up

1216
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: getting run out of town was always an issue. What

1217
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 3: I think why I think this is important here is

1218
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: to see the success that Live Golf had in Australia

1219
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: is that maybe everyone was narrow minded because there is

1220
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: a thirst of golf. Australia loves golf, an absolute thirst

1221
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: of it. They would draw so well when when the

1222
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: pros would come over in November and December for the

1223
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: tournaments that they had. It truly, truly is a golf

1224
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: rich country and you saw that. Plus with the backing

1225
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: of Greg Norman, you know, country's hero. I think that

1226
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 3: helps a little bit, but I still think that they

1227
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: would be crazy about golf and it just tells you

1228
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: of maybe on how that's where golf needed to be.

1229
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 3: Because the PGA Championship about I don't know, ten years

1230
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: ago or so, I was looking at different ways to

1231
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: spice their championship up because they were lost between amongst

1232
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: the Masters and the Open Championship. In the US Open,

1233
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: they were just the fourth major of the end of

1234
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: the year. There wasn't a lot of build up to it. Well,

1235
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: now they get a new date, which really helps them.

1236
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: But at the times they were looking to change, there

1237
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: was even talk about why not maybe take that a

1238
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: broad take it to Australia to see what it would

1239
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: you know, And then I don't know how far those

1240
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: discussions actually got, but it was actually brought up. The

1241
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: point in all of this is I don't think live

1242
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: golf works in the United States. I just I don't.

1243
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as great of a draw as

1244
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour is. But you found it in Australia.

1245
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: You found it in the spots, and maybe that's the

1246
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: place for it. I don't agree with how you know,

1247
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: how they do business, but one of the things that

1248
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: they've really been lacking is attention and gist of it

1249
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: being an electric event. And for the second straight year

1250
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: they've put on a great event in Australia. Maybe that's

1251
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: the lesson of trying to find these spots around the

1252
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 3: globe that you can really make a benefit and tap into.

1253
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, also a proof of concept. If the PGA did

1254
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: decide it's like, well, clearly this works, sure right. We

1255
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: may not have Greg Norman to put out at the

1256
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: Rubber Chicken dinners, but we've got a product. And obviously

1257
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: there is, as you say, the thirst sport. So you say, okay,

1258
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: that's a spot we can go back in, you know,

1259
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: with live golf here in the States, and I would

1260
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: compare it, I think to some of the upstart football

1261
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: things that we do here. You're not going to top

1262
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: the NFL, No, but there's an audience, right because there's

1263
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: still you have your favorite golfers that maybe you followed

1264
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: for years. May not like the business of live golf,

1265
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: but you might want to see that guy go and

1266
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: follow him for the eighteen holes or fifty.

1267
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 3: Days.

1268
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: So we get to go for three days. But you

1269
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: get what I what I'm saying there. They also you

1270
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: know our rowdy there in Adelaide because we one of

1271
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: the headlines that broke through literally was the guy getting

1272
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: hit in the head with a water bottle as if

1273
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 2: they were at the Phoenix Open.

1274
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's exactly what they They're a watering hole.

1275
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: One of their part threes is they set up and

1276
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: it actually looks it looked like a really neat, intimate

1277
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: venue where you have fans all around. You Canadian opens

1278
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: done it as well, a little bit with a tea

1279
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: box on one of their holes, but on the on

1280
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: the PGA tour, but this is Yeah, it was unique

1281
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: and there's there's a thirst for it and and so

1282
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: you tap into that. Do I think that they were

1283
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: all about it because it was Greg Norman and camp

1284
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: Smith was home, Like I just I feel that's a

1285
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: very small part of it. I feel that they just

1286
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: they love golf in that country, So go to the

1287
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: places that love golfer where it's not maybe oversaturated or

1288
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: and and maybe that's what the PGA Tour should have

1289
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: should have done. The Zeri Classic is this weekend. One

1290
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: of the things the tour has done is they made

1291
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: that a team competition where you have PGA Tour players

1292
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 3: teaming up, and it was a way to try to

1293
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: spice things up, a way to get other players to

1294
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: commit to that event that maybe normally wouldn't have. You

1295
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: had to think outside the box.

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 5: And I think.

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Speaker 3: That that's what this weekend ended up proving. Where you

1298
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: just can't, you know, dropping a tournament in Miami and

1299
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: playing it at Trump durrell As.

1300
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 5: You know, it is what it is.

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's not gonna it's not gonna move

1302
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: that that needle in golf. And it's almost kind of

1303
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 3: looked like a bit that maybe even of a lost

1304
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: opportunity that maybe these other entities didn't look and figure out,

1305
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: how can we do this, How can we how can

1306
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: we go overseas, how can we do it within our

1307
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: calendar instead of doing it, you know, for us in

1308
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: the middle of football season in November and December. What's

1309
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 3: a way that it would have worked and they never

1310
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: figured that out.

1311
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, but that's thing that that's one of the I mean,

1312
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: I guess one of the criticisms and one of the

1313
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: how a live golf can start toes date now the

1314
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: money and everything else, again we owe to the business

1315
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: of it. Is that for the PGA, if it ain't broke,

1316
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: don't fix it. Seems to have been the motto, yeah

1317
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: for the organization and still does to a large degree.

1318
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: As much as you celebrate certain events, like there's not

1319
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 2: that forward thinking of growth expansion, it's.

1320
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 3: Because there was no competition, right, there was never and

1321
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: there was nobody else to challenge it. And I even

1322
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: think back then you would say, like, well, why would

1323
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: you why would you try to do something outside of

1324
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: the country in the middle of your tour season, in

1325
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 3: the middle of the major season, And like do I

1326
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 3: do I think that Brooks Koepka loves going to Australia,

1327
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, in between the Masters in PGA Championship. Probably

1328
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: not probably wouldn't have done that, But if you were

1329
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 3: to figure out a way to make it a unique

1330
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: tournament or a special tournament or make it. You know

1331
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: you're like then that then that maybe could have worked

1332
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 3: at that time and allowed you. It wouldn't It wouldn't

1333
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: have prevented live golf by by any means. But it

1334
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: just it just shows on how untapped of a resource. Uh,

1335
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: you know Australia has been in professional golf and how

1336
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: they've turned out for it.

1337
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 5: And it's not a.

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: Secret by any means. Everybody knew it. Everybody knew that

1339
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 3: golf would work down there. It's just that live is

1340
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: just finally taking advantage of it.

1341
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: Well, putting money up to try to do something seems

1342
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: to be the mantra of the league is it stands

1343
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: all right, we'll figure out the actual concept and proof

1344
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: thereof later, but let's throw some money, get some participants,

1345
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: get the sites. The if you build it, they will

1346
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: come kind of model seems to be.

1347
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: The Yeah, data fact the team competition is still really stupid,

1348
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: but I that's that's beside the point.

1349
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: Movies damp Fire at dam Bire on Fox, Find Me

1350
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome coming out next Yeah, Well we'll

1351
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: have a little bit of family time, but first we

1352
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: got to talk to Isaac Lowancron get an update of

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: what is going on in our sporting universe. Not a

1354
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: beautiful Sunday morning. What's up?

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Speaker 10: I love well that includes some fresh NFL news This morning,

1356
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 10: The Buffalo Bills have signed former Detroit Lions receiver quintessiphis

1357
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 10: best known for being suspended for all of last season

1358
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 10: for violating the NFL's gambling policy. Hey, Buffalo need a translator,

1359
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 10: asked Hepe Mizuhara anyway. In the NBA playoffs on Saturday night,

1360
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 10: in Game four in LA, the Lakers defeated Denver one

1361
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 10: nineteen to one O eight, so the Lakers stay alive.

1362
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 10: Denver still leads the series three games to one. Lebron

1363
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 10: James scored thirty Anthony Davis twenty five points and twenty

1364
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 10: three rebounds, Nikola Jokic a thirty three point, fourteen rebound,

1365
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 10: fourteen assists triple double in a losing cause for Denver.

1366
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 10: Earlier Saturday night, the Boston Celtics won at Miami What

1367
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 10: four to eighty four for a two games to one

1368
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 10: lead in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. On Saturday night, the

1369
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 10: Dallas Stars in overtime what at Vegas three to two

1370
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 10: Vegas still leads the series two games to one. The

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01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 10: game winning goal was scored by twenty year old Wyatt

1372
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 10: Johnston sixteen minutes and twenty three seconds into overtime. It

1373
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 10: was his second goal of the game. Unfortunately, because he's twenty,

1374
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 10: he could not celebrate afterwards in all the Vegas casinos.

1375
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 10: In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, the Philadelphia Phillies

1376
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 10: won at San Diego five to one. The Phillies have

1377
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 10: won ten of twelve. The Minnesota Twins beat the Angels

1378
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 10: in Anaheim sixteen to five. The Twins on a sixteen

1379
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 10: winning streak for the first time since May.

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: Of twenty twenty two. And with that it is all yours, fellows.

1381
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: Apreciate you, Isaac and Isaac. Loewen kron is where you

1382
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: find Isaac. The Bears are on the clock five point

1383
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: fifty five left for the first pick of the NFL Draft,

1384
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: because you know, I had to watch it again to

1385
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: celebrate the pomp and circumstance of the pick, because you

1386
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: know they did tell Ryan Poles we got to have

1387
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: some highdrama and wouldn't let him submit the pick.

1388
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 5: You also have to fill that TV window, that's right, right, yes.

1389
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: There's all the b roll that we have on Caleb Williams,

1390
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: all the futility of the Bears quarterbacks that we need

1391
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: to talk about a little bit more before the commissioner

1392
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 2: gets to come out and get his obligatory booze.

1393
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 5: What a joke.

1394
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: We talked about it how a week ago on why

1395
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: they hadn't done it, And there's why the Bears just

1396
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 3: didn't take Caleb Williams because Ryan Pole's even said on

1397
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 3: the phone call, We've known for the last month, Caleb

1398
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: Williams said, you've known for the last five months.

1399
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know forever, right, And as soon as Justin

1400
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: Fields shuffled off to Pittsburgh, there was no longer any

1401
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: question of any of that, although I did like all

1402
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: the rumors of Justin Herbert potentially getting done to different spots.

1403
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: But we could do that with the Chargers at the

1404
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: top of the hour. But coming up next, Hey what

1405
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: NFL coaches, no more than some of their peers, ponder

1406
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: that for a moment. We'll discuss it next here on

1407
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday,

1408
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. I'm Mike Carmen, He's Dan Bayer and

1409
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: right now, I'm just gonna hand the giant stick microphone

1410
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: over to Dan. He's wearing a nice shiny suit coat,

1411
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: so I will be the rod Roddy for him here. Dan,

1412
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 2: time to shy. All right.

1413
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 3: The Fox family is together and it's time to play

1414
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: the feud. Mike Carmen is here. Chris purfet Ian Roddy

1415
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: and Isaac Lohin Crown make up the Fox family. Top

1416
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 3: eight answers on the board. Three strikes and the family

1417
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: is out. Good news. Pass is in a today, So

1418
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: if you want to use the pass, it can only

1419
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: be used once by the team and I'll reveal an

1420
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 3: answer and we'll move along in the game. But once

1421
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: it's used, it is done. It also brings up the

1422
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: point that I can withdraw the pass at any point

1423
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: that I feel necessary. I don't think i'll do so

1424
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 3: today until there's maybe one answer left on the board.

1425
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: Ah, you're right, you're ready.

1426
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 3: Top eight answers on the board Current NFL head coaches

1427
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: that have played at least one snap in an NFL

1428
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 3: regular season game. Top eight answers on the board NFL

1429
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: at coaches that have played at least one snap in

1430
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: an NFL regular season game, Mike Carmen, we start with you.

1431
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just gonna steal the obvious one that we

1432
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: talk about all the time, and Profet's gonna hate me.

1433
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: I'll take Dan Campbell.

1434
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Dan Campbell, show me Dan Campbell, you know, a

1435
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 3: great career as a tight end in Detroit with the

1436
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 3: Giants Cowboys as well. Dan Campbell is off the board.

1437
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: Over to the aforementioned Chris Perfet.

1438
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm man. If Frank Reich was still coaching, I'd

1439
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 8: still be able to i'd have an answer ready to go,

1440
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 8: but he's not. I'm trying to think. So we've got

1441
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 8: seven on the board. Still, Yes, I hate to do

1442
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 8: this this early. I'm blanking. Uh dude, I'm trying to think. Yeah,

1443
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 8: I'm trying. I'm just gonna I'm gonna have to pass

1444
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 8: right now. He's gonna take the past. But, like my

1445
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 8: brain is, fit has already been used.

1446
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 3: Jim, Sorry, Chris, Jim Harball obviously took snaps in the NFL.

1447
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: So what's that I take back the pass.

1448
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 3: I just had one finally pop into my no because

1449
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 3: I just said Jim Harball played, So that.

1450
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 5: Is that is the past. The pass is gone. All right.

1451
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 5: Over to Ian Roddy.

1452
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 9: Jim Harma is going to be my answer, but no,

1453
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 9: that's all right, I have others.

1454
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Tomiko Ryans.

1455
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: Demiko Rans great career with the Houston Texans, the team

1456
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 3: that he now coaches. Show me Demiko Ryans, all right,

1457
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 3: there he is on the board. Over to Isaac Lohincron.

1458
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with Brett Farve's one time backup. Doug Peterson.

1459
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 10: A right in Jacksonville. You're right, Doug Peterson playing for

1460
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 10: Green Bay. Also spend some time with Philadelphia. Show me

1461
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 10: Doug Peterson.

1462
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 5: There he is.

1463
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson off the board. Back around to Mike Harmon.

1464
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 3: No strikes so far. Current NFL head coaches that played

1465
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,839
Speaker 3: a snap at least one snap in an NFL regular

1466
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 3: season game. We've had Dan Campbell, Demiko Ryans, Doug Peterson,

1467
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 3: and Jim Harbaugh are off the board. Looking for four more.

1468
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: Reminder that shortly after the show, the podcast goes up.

1469
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: You missed Eddie of today's show. Be sure to check

1470
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 2: it out. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast,

1471
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: be sure to follow, rate and review it. Just look

1472
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: for Fox Sports Sunday Buyer and Harmon again, Fox Sports Radio.

1473
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcast, you'll see this show posted

1474
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: right after we get off the air. Now back to

1475
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: our round two.

1476
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce, Ah, that may be an easy one. Show

1477
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 3: me Antonio Pierce. He's the head coach of the Las

1478
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders, longtime linebacker for the New York Giants. Antonio

1479
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 3: Pearce's off the board. Back over to Chris Purfett.

1480
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 8: All right, I'm back in the game. Now, I've got

1481
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 8: my head back on straight. I'm gonna go with Kevin

1482
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 8: O'Connell Minnesota Vikings.

1483
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell Minnesota Vikings. You know he was a quarterback.

1484
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: Show me Kevin O'Connell.

1485
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 5: There it is.

1486
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 3: However, I think he's taking like four snaps like that's

1487
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: about it. Like that's that's all that we've got. Colect check,

1488
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 3: but it works all right. Over to Ion Roddy uh

1489
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: g Mayo as hands show me girod Mayo.

1490
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 5: All right, there it is seven for seven.

1491
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: It's not a perfect game because of the pass that's

1492
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: like a walk, but still kind of a no hitter going.

1493
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: Isaac Longkron, can you find out the eighth and final

1494
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 3: head coach that played a regular season snap at least

1495
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: one regular season snap in the NFL, and.

1496
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 10: If only you had held the mail anyway, let I

1497
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 10: would have expected at least a mercy chuckle. After that,

1498
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with a guy who I think actually

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Speaker 10: played in a Super Bowl, Todd Bowles.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's find out is the no hitter intact?

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01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: Show me Todd Bowles?

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01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 6: There?

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01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 5: Wow?

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01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 11: Eight for eight.

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have not gotten that one.

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01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 5: I mean, we.

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Joked super bowls when he was a coach of the

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: Jets because of my partner Jason Smith during the week,

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: but yeah, I wouldn't never remember.

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: I gosh, this is actually I wonder when you guys,

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: if you guys cheated, this is the this is the time.

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: This was I thought you'd get one strike. I thought

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 3: you would get one strike today.

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 9: My next guest would have been Raheem Morris, which I

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 9: guess now we know is wrong.

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01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: Was Mike McDaniel. I was out there for like Andy,

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 2: I I thought I had passing punt.

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 8: That that was I just my brain just fried out,

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 8: and like two seconds after I said pass, I'm like,

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 8: oh right, yeah, Demigo Ryans, there.

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 3: Are there are guys who spent training camps with teams.

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor a guy but never never ended up officially

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01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: taking playing a snap or taking a snap in an

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Speaker 3: NFL game.

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Speaker 5: And when when I looked back and was double checking.

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01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to I wanted to make sure, and

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, Sala never played.

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 5: But you mentioned Frank Reich.

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01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 8: You know, He's always in my brain as like four

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01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 8: quarterback ys.

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01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 3: Lost Rabel, you know, Rabel would have been an obvious answer.

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: So there were other guys. Uh, Cliff Kingsbury spending time

1533
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: in the NFL was a name that that popped up

1534
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: as well. I'm not sure what Cliff's sexual stats were

1535
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But so you had you had a

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: transition of players in and out, but those were the

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01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: eight that actually took a snap. You had teams again,

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01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 3: guys that played on you know, preseason games and stuff

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01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 3: like that, but they weren't included in this.

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but O'Connell and Kingsbury, guys who once got to

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01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: watch Tom Brady work.

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right about that.

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the next few. Yeah, who are former coaches

1544
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: that are affiliated some way because they were drafted as

1545
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: quote the next Tom Brady, He's Dad, I'm Mike coming up.

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Speaker 2: What the hell are the Vikings and Chargers doing?

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Speaker 2: with me here Sunday mornings right now, Dan, good to

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01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: have you in. We had an edition of the Feud

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01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: where some confusion rained a little bit, and you start

1566
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: thinking about the histories of coaches, and now we're thinking

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01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: about well coaches and how they felt about what their

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 2: gms did coming out of NFL Draft weekend.

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, we just did the with the

1570
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: feud and we had some drama. I am curious Chris

1571
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 3: Purfett who popped.

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: Into your mind?

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: And when you utilize the pass and then wanted to

1574
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 3: take it back, that's what that That's who it was.

1575
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 3: So we would have we would have stayed on track.

1576
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:16,520
Speaker 3: I find the coaching aspect of the draft very interesting

1577
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: because if Raheem Morris wasn't the head coach of the

1578
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, are they willing to do what they did

1579
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: with this Michael Pennix, meaning first year head coach, you

1580
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 3: got some leeway. I look at what's happening in Minnesota

1581
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: is one that will dive into. Is very interesting, an

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01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: interesting scenario considering where the Vikings are in the division,

1583
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 3: where they are in the NFC, what they did in

1584
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: the draft, what the future could hold, and then you've

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01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: got a whole different scenario in other places where coaches

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01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: are firmly entrenched. We think so much of the GM

1587
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 3: when it comes to these these moves, Mike. But yeah,

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: these coaches have a lot of say, and especially if

1589
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: your jobs on the line. Like I thought about Matt

1590
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 3: Eberflus when he hopped on the call with Caleb Williams

1591
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 3: being like, all right, now this works, Eberflue's going to

1592
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 3: be around for a while. But if it doesn't, if

1593
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: it goes off track, then there's going to be somebody

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01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 3: else talking to draft picks in twenty twenty five.

1595
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: And that's a curiosity, right. We know what the Bears,

1596
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: and we talked about it a lot going into the

1597
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season and what it became with Iberflus.

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: I never believed he was going to be fired because well,

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01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: the Bears don't pay out money to guys that are gone.

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: They ride it out for another year. And you saw

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: once Montees Sweat showed up in Chicago, and you know,

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: we're still looking for Alan Williams. Which is funny when

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: when folks were putting up their pictures of a number

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: thirteen jersey and putting the nameplate of is it Alan

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01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 2: or is it Williams, which when you know kind of

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01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: thing and I'm like, ha, hop, that's funny Alan Williams

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01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: still haven't found him. Former Bears defensive coordinator who resigned

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: citing lots of things, but there were a lot of allegations.

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: You go read about it in the interwebs. It's an

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01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: unsolved mister spring back.

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01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 5: Robert stack harmon so much it's hilarious.

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Not often do you have a guy fired or dismissed

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: or resign that you never find out is whereabouts again, Dan?

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01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 11: Right?

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01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: We always have Hey, he pops up here? Or this

1616
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: is why the team will issue a statement to kind

1617
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: of say, hey, done deal, other than he's no longer

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01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: with the team.

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01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: This is the equivalent of the HR scenario. Like, we

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: had a couple of people way back in the day

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: fired for cause when I worked at Yahoo. Well, when

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01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: they went down the road to another internet company. The

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: only thing that HR could legally do is confirm that

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01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: they actually work there. Sure you can't say, hey, here's

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01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: why they got bounced out of here, Like, I'm not

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: looking for a lot of details about Alan Williams, but

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: could you at least give us a little bit of

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: something as to why he disappeared in the the middle

1630
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: of the year. Either way, iberflues took over the defense

1631
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: and it was one of the top rated units. Down

1632
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 2: the stretch, you saw the offense play better, which opened

1633
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: the conversations about justin fields, will they won't they? Whatever?

1634
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Caleb Williams shows up there, but a

1635
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: guy who clearly you've got a front office that has

1636
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: asserted themselves quite well and with great power, like Iberflus.

1637
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: Is there your point about Raheem Morris If that's Bill Belichick,

1638
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: it's a fight, right. If they'd hired Bill Belichick, as

1639
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: had been rumored a lot, how much control he really

1640
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: would have had in this iteration, We don't know, but

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01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: I gear and dan Teya Michael Panix ain't the pick

1642
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 2: if they just spent one hundred and eighty million dollars

1643
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: on Kirk Cousins. Yeah.

1644
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: I also think like Raheem Morris signs off on it

1645
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: because he hasn't coached a game yet, right, So they're

1646
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: not gonna in all likelihood. We've seen NFL head coaches

1647
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 3: move on after one year, some even less well sure

1648
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 3: and certain circumstances. I don't think that that's the case

1649
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. I think that there's there's time to grow,

1650
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: and so there isn't the urgency for Raheem Morris to

1651
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: balk at the pick, like seeing Kevin O'Connell perk up

1652
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 3: when the team's trading up to get Dallas Turner and

1653
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 3: that meme. Yeah, it gets you excited, but it also

1654
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: tells you, all right, you got it. You know something's

1655
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: gonna have to happen now this year, you don't want

1656
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 3: to miss the playoffs and back to back years. Your

1657
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 3: division's getting a lot better, like you need to step

1658
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 3: it up in it.

1659
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 5: It was also the look of a coach.

1660
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 3: That you know may maybe teetering on hot seat or

1661
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: not hot seat.

1662
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Well, sure you'd move on in the quarterback slot, whether

1663
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: it be Donald or now JJ McCarthy comes in and

1664
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: we'll see how that plays.

1665
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 9: Right.

1666
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: A lot of discussion of well, it doesn't need to

1667
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: play right away, so yeah, generally they do like I'd

1668
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: love the long long ball approach if you can do it,

1669
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 2: and that's the only like really way down the list

1670
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 2: idea for Atlanta, like if you can grow a guy,

1671
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: but not at the eighth pick overall, right, you're drafting

1672
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: in the top ten, top fifteen, the expectation is you're

1673
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: getting that guy ready to play and right quickly from Minnesota.

1674
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: To your point about the NFC North, Yeah, there's no

1675
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: shrinking Violet anymore, like there's no all right, they're obviously

1676
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: going to be last. Detroit's not going away. Can they

1677
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: repeat what they did and have the same level of success?

1678
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Schedule changes, personnel changes, and look, we why we celebrate

1679
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: the Patriots so much was the continuity. We don't see

1680
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: that with great regularity Packers. We think we've had Jordan

1681
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 2: Love find his way after some rough footing early, a

1682
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: run game that was non existent for the first half

1683
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: of the season. Suddenly Aaron Jones went away for two

1684
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 2: weeks and he's just like shot out of a cannon

1685
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: down the stretch rightletely different offense as he returned. The

1686
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Bears talk about it like all the weapons they added.

1687
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: You look at the defensive side that got better last year.

1688
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden in division from Minnesota, you

1689
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,440
Speaker 2: had Kirk Cousins and the wide receiving room between Hawkinson,

1690
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: Addison and Jefferson one of the best trios that we've got,

1691
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: no question about it. You bring in Aaron Jones to

1692
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: the backfield, now keep them in division. You've got a

1693
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: roster that you should be able to win with and

1694
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: for Kevin O'Connell, you know, adding that other defensive piece. Yeah, absolutely,

1695
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: it would seem that you're you've got a GM who's

1696
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: got a firm grasp of what he's trying to do. Here.

1697
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, I got you the guys, you

1698
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: got to go win. But there's there's no easy wins

1699
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: in division.

1700
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: I have so many questions about Minnesota, and I would

1701
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: be willing to make an argument that I think that

1702
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: the NFC North is on the verge of being the

1703
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: best division in football. I think the AFC North has

1704
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 3: held that flag, you know, with just you know, just

1705
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 3: you know, especially with the emergence of Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.

1706
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 3: You think Cleveland's a playoff team and now you wonder,

1707
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 3: if you know, are things going to change if Deshaun

1708
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 3: Watson's healthy. The whole season was this just a Joe

1709
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Flacco magic run? But I think you can incorporate all

1710
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: of that. I don't know all good Pittsburgh's going to be,

1711
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 3: but heckedon made it to the postseason last year, so

1712
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 3: they held that mantle. But going forward, everything that you

1713
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: named with Minnesota should make them a.

1714
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 5: Better football team.

1715
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Yet I look back at their draft, and which is

1716
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 3: why I like the NFC North being that division, because

1717
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 3: I think there the Bears are going to be there,

1718
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: whether Caleb Williams is a wonder kid or not. That

1719
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 3: defense is going to carry a lot of the of

1720
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: the water as well. So I think the Bears are better.

1721
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 3: And green Bay and Detroit's Super Bowl contender, and green

1722
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Bay went tote toe with San Francisco and the division

1723
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 3: playoff there right there, I think there's a legitimate argument

1724
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 3: that can be made that the NFC North is the

1725
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 3: best division in football, which makes me scratch my head

1726
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 3: even more on maybe why Minnesota did what they did

1727
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 3: in their.

1728
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 5: In the draft.

1729
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 3: They have four draft picks next season, I believe, Yeah, I.

1730
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 5: Got it in front of me.

1731
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: You have your first round pick, you've doubt, your second

1732
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 3: is gone, your third is gone, your fourth is gone,

1733
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: You've got a fifth, and you have another fifth, and

1734
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: then you've got a seventh rounder. So you have four

1735
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: picks in the NFL draft next year. Because you've put

1736
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 3: all of your apples and everything in this draft. I

1737
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 3: don't think that you needed to address the quarterback position,

1738
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: but I would have almost rather have swaited to see

1739
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: what Sam Dnold was doing instead of maybe doing what

1740
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 3: they did, and then you trade it up to get

1741
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 3: Dallas Turner because all the defensive players fell. I just

1742
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: I didn't think Minnesota was a player away mic and

1743
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: the player that they were probably away, you know, away

1744
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 3: from last year was Kirk Cousins, but then he wasn't

1745
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:05,879
Speaker 3: there for the second half of the season.

1746
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 5: And I'm not even sure how good.

1747
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 3: That they are, you know, they are without him, and

1748
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 3: how good they would even be with him in terms

1749
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: of the rest of the division and the rest of

1750
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 3: the NFC. I just if you're a Vikings fan like

1751
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy has to work out, and not only does

1752
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: he have to work out, he's got to be really

1753
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: really good considering where your team is. And it's just

1754
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 3: it seemed like a front office that I know, it

1755
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: looks like it's planning for the future by drafting JJ McCarthy,

1756
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: And maybe that does that with the front office. But

1757
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: if you're Kevin O'Connell and it doesn't work out, you know,

1758
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, man, there's not a lot to

1759
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 3: hang your hat on in twenty twenty five with your

1760
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: draft class, either, so how much can actually be better?

1761
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 3: I just I wonder how it works for the Vikings.

1762
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 3: They were the ones who had just kind of had

1763
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 3: me scratching my head considering all of the moves that

1764
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: they made to move up in the draft and take

1765
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: the players that they wanted.

1766
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Well to your point about you know, coaches, and you

1767
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 2: don't get the long leash anymore, even if you're winning.

1768
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get it. No, it's just like the

1769
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: any of the quarterbacks. No, that's right, I mean first

1770
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: round picks. We've seen how many teams move off of

1771
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 3: guys after a year, two years, you could say it's

1772
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 3: grossly incomplete. Again in Chicago, a lot of the discussion

1773
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 3: is just, boy, if Justin Fields had had half of

1774
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 3: these assets for more than you know, at one season

1775
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 3: with with Dj Moore and Cole Kament obviously got a

1776
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 3: lot better last year of much more secure.

1777
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 2: Hand hands than he'd had before. But just go on

1778
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: down the line, and for coaches, even guys that have

1779
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 2: great success, I mean Marty Schottenheimer used to be the

1780
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: guy it's like, well, yeah, that great year and they

1781
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: fired him. So he was always the example. No other

1782
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: They're littered with him because GMS want their own guy.

1783
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 2: It's not just they want their own quarterback. They want

1784
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 2: to be as lockstep with their their coaches as they can.

1785
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 2: Which is why it's curious when you do have the

1786
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 2: veteran coaches that do exhibit more clout, like some guys

1787
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: just stay out of the way, right, Like that's Andy

1788
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: Reid gives his input, but Veitch and company they do

1789
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 2: their job right, and then he goes to work. I'm

1790
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 2: sure he has his input, but it's never been put

1791
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: out that, you know, Andy really put his foot down

1792
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,879
Speaker 2: to get this guy or whatever right separation of duties.

1793
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Whereas we have in Denver, as as we've talked about

1794
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: a little bit off air. You know Sean Payton, who's

1795
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,799
Speaker 2: been hailed by many as you know wild E Coyote,

1796
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 2: super genius, this you know, messiah of coaching. All Right,

1797
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: you won a couple of games here and there in

1798
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 2: the non Drew Brees parts of New Orleans. But the

1799
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: two years in Denver been a disaster.

1800
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah at this point, Yeah, it's well so far, because

1801
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 3: it's been the one it's just.

1802
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: One setting up for a year two so one year.

1803
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 3: But it's funny because I don't think you're the only

1804
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 3: one that like the head scratcher was Denver for you

1805
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 3: for again. For me, it was just it was Minnesota

1806
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 3: in going all in. The thing about the Denver thing

1807
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 3: was I felt everybody was mocking, not making fun of,

1808
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 3: but predicting Bonnicks to Denver, and then it's where yeah,

1809
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 3: and then that's that's like then it happens that everybody's like,

1810
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: awful pick when that like that's all. I don't know

1811
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 3: if people were predicting Denver to make that pick or

1812
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 3: they were just predicting Sean Payton's arrogance that he was

1813
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 3: going to get a quarterback that that he feels that

1814
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 3: he can work with. But like, man, that was one

1815
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 3: of the one of the picks that I felt people

1816
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 3: had kind of you know, targeted and nailed when it

1817
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 3: came through the.

1818
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 2: You know, I got that one right in my uh,

1819
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 2: you know, dart throwing exercise. But I don't do trades,

1820
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: like I fully anticipated that they'd be able to slide back,

1821
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 2: get some other assets and still be able to get him,

1822
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 2: because everybody that really wanted a quarterback had already done it. Seattle.

1823
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: I'd heard whispers people were trying to talk them into

1824
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback run to some way, shape or form. While

1825
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 2: they brought in Sam Howell mm hm, and you have

1826
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: Gino still there.

1827
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 3: There was a report that they had looked to move

1828
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 3: up maybe to try to get Pennix. Obviously, with Ryan

1829
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: Grubbed their offensive coordinator coming over from Washington, there'd be

1830
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 3: familiarity there, so there was an opportunity. How serious those

1831
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 3: talks got or what was being asked, we don't know,

1832
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 3: but there was a report that they did at least

1833
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 3: look to move up to try to.

1834
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: Look at quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, but for Bo Nicks in

1835
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: good college career, and certainly our teammate Jeff Schwartz going

1836
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 2: through a little deep you know, he's the Oregon guy,

1837
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: so kind of getting a little deeper. They brought in

1838
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 2: Franklin in the fourth round, so he gets a guy

1839
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: that he's familiar with. Still, you know, as much as

1840
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: they've ruled out trading Courtland Sutton or whatever, that's not

1841
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: done and we still have a long off season to go,

1842
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,839
Speaker 2: because that was I think my biggest surprise of everything

1843
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 2: in the draft is that we didn't see more activity

1844
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: than AJ Brown getting his contract When it came to

1845
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: veteran wide receiver.

1846
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1847
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of names that you thought, especially in

1848
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 3: San Francisco with Deebo and Brandon Nyuk being I don't

1849
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 3: think San Francisco forty nine er fans really felt that

1850
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 3: either was going to go because they just can't imagine

1851
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 3: a world without both of them.

1852
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 5: But they were brought up.

1853
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 3: You know, New England and Buffalo were the two names

1854
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I think most prominently attached to those two and it

1855
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: never happened. But yeah, you're right, there wasn't There wasn't

1856
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: much much movement with that at all.

1857
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 2: Really thought we'd get far more activity in that top

1858
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 2: half of the draft.

1859
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 5: It was boring trade.

1860
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 3: Yes, the panixpicker actually made it exciting, but because we

1861
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 3: had heard, we knew Washington was going to stay, but

1862
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: we had thought that the Patriots were maybe open for business,

1863
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 3: and that the Cardinals could be moved off of number

1864
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 3: four if they wanted to, and even honestly, the Chargers

1865
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 3: because we felt that they were likely to go offensive

1866
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: line it was either Harrison Junior or offensive line that

1867
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 3: they would maybe be willing to move back because you

1868
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 3: felt some tackles and some linemen could go anywhere between

1869
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 3: five and fifteen, but then that didn't happen. You know,

1870
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 3: Giants obviously didn't move up, so they stayed at six.

1871
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a little a little boring in

1872
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: that way, but there were there were no trades to

1873
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 3: really get excited about in the first half of the draft.

1874
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,879
Speaker 2: Still plenty to rip as we do here in sports

1875
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 2: talk radio. So we'll go back to the Chargers and

1876
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: talk about them here as we continue here, it's Fox

1877
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday at Dan Byro on Fox where you find

1878
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: Dan find me over at Swollendom. And you mentioned Marvin

1879
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. Just another great example of how old I've become.

1880
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: Did you really make me feel old? Every time one

1881
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 2: of these guys gets drafted or a guy gets called

1882
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 2: up in Major League Baseball? It's just it's a dagger,

1883
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 2: you know.

1884
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 3: You mentioned, you know, Caleb Williams, and obviously his jerseys

1885
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 3: are very popular, wearing number eighteen in Chicago. But Marvin

1886
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior, at the Adam Schefter pointed out hadn't signed

1887
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 3: as NFL p a right, So they ended up having

1888
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 3: to put a note online explaining why there there weren't

1889
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 3: any Marvin Harrison chatters tweet yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so

1890
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 3: crazy crazy stuff.

1891
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Everybody, you know, you want to angle for as much

1892
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: as many dollars as you can, because that's famously been

1893
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 2: done by a few guys here. LeVar Arrington didn't do

1894
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: that back in two.

1895
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 3: Thousand and uh a little about QB Bills, Untech Mobile

1896
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 3: Eagle Eagles, QB QB Eagles, Randall Cunningham because.

1897
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: The NFL Quarterback Quarterback Club Yep, YEP, which had all

1898
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 2: of those guys and then what like Jerry Rice and

1899
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 2: like one or two other guys.

1900
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:46,879
Speaker 3: The the funny story about that Damian Miller, former MLB catcher,

1901
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 3: was one of the guys who actually crossed the picket

1902
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 3: lines during a labor negotiation. So when obviously when he

1903
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 3: continued in the league, but wasn't a part of the

1904
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 3: of the license deal because he crossed the picket line.

1905
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 3: When you would play like MLB the show in like

1906
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 3: two thousand and six, they would have to make up

1907
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 3: a fake name for Damian Miller, like like it wasn't

1908
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 3: like the Barry Bonds that was the fake name or

1909
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 3: the top guys. You're just like, wait, where's Damian Miller

1910
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 3: in this game? And it's like, yeah, they couldn't They

1911
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 3: couldn't use him? Yeah, crazy, He's Dan, I'm Mike. We

1912
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 3: continue with the Chargers next. Here it's Fox Sports Radio.

1913
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in. It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports

1914
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 2: Sunday Mike Harmt alongside Dan Byer live here from the

1915
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 2: tyrac dot Com studios as we talk all things NFL Draft,

1916
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: the react, roster building, and fun and excitement. As a

1917
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Chicago kid, I'm still waiting for something else to go

1918
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 2: awry because right now the roster looks strong. Then the

1919
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: only thing I have to laugh about is the stadium proposal.

1920
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: And it helps me though. Dan here, here's what this does,

1921
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: the draft and where the roster is, and talking about

1922
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 2: you know, opponents, and eventually we'll get our big schedule

1923
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 2: released the next national holiday for the NFL. When we

1924
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 2: do that, and then we could chart in all our

1925
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 2: wins and losses and everything. Is that it's helping me

1926
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 2: get through the early trials and tribulations of the Chicago

1927
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: White Sox. Winners are too straight.

1928
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 5: Yes, but the streaking White Sox it's just.

1929
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 2: Been a horrid, terrible start to the year.

1930
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: I know you and I have talked about this before,

1931
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: but I don't think it's a conversation that I've heard

1932
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 3: in a lot of other places because the bar set

1933
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 3: for the minimum of what Caleb Williams has to do

1934
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 3: is pretty high in Chicago, and I would even argue

1935
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 3: Mike did it probably has to be even higher than

1936
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 3: what it is for him to be a success, because

1937
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 3: I do feel that last year's draft plays into it,

1938
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 3: because you did have the number one overall pick last year,

1939
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 3: and the point is is getting that quarterback that is

1940
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback, no matter no matter what haul you got,

1941
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 3: and even if that hall included the number one of

1942
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 3: the year before, if Caleb Williams isn't better than c J. Stroud,

1943
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 3: I consider that almost a bear's miss. Now if they're

1944
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 3: their neck and neck, and you know, if it's a

1945
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 3: if it's a Manning and Brady is a bad example

1946
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 3: because they're two of the greats. But if they both

1947
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 3: have successful careers with Pro Bowls, it's gonna be tough

1948
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 3: to decipher on who is whatever. But if, if, if

1949
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 3: there's a gap between what Stroud has done or does

1950
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 3: and then what Caleb Williams would do or where Stroud

1951
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 3: is better, I do think that that is a bit

1952
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 3: of a fail on the shoulders of the Chicago Bears.

1953
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 2: Well, I would say the thing that we have to

1954
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: to back it out though, is would he necessarily have

1955
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 2: been the guy right or would it have been Bryce Young?

1956
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Because we got it, we got to pull back and

1957
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 2: I have that to go because I still have wounds

1958
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 2: from twenty seventeen and the way people do their revisionist

1959
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 2: history now because the Bears pick if we go back

1960
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 2: to twenty seventeen, wouldn't have been Patrick Mahomes, as everybody

1961
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: tries to conveniently tell you now that he's going upon

1962
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 2: the list of all time greats. It would have been

1963
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. Sure, and guess what you might have run

1964
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 2: into all the same issues in the off field proclivities

1965
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson has had in his career that it

1966
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been him. And for what it's worth, even

1967
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 2: with suspect surroundings, ammunition coaching, et cetera, Traubisky still won

1968
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: games in Chicago. He was still unware right to the

1969
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 2: playoffs twice and look, was he perfect? No, but he

1970
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: still completed two thirds of his passes. There's a lot

1971
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 2: of positives. He just wasn't Patrick Mahomes who is, but

1972
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: the pick would have been Deshaun Watson. So my point

1973
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 2: is that last year, if they'd stayed at one, would

1974
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: they have necessarily taken Stroud? I guess is the discussion, And.

1975
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 3: Then I would have just criticized their evaluation, you know,

1976
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 3: like like of that, like where it's where it's even

1977
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 3: if Yeah, in hindsight, looking back, if they would have

1978
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 3: had the pick and held onto it, there is the

1979
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 3: chance that they took Bryce Young. But there's also just

1980
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 3: the simple fact of that you had the opportunity, so

1981
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 3: you take CJ. Stroud and you failed to do so.

1982
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: And now you see the bar right, you saw what

1983
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Houston did a year ago, and you compare the Bear's

1984
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: roster and we talk about the division is going to

1985
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: be no picnic. Well could not have anticipated Jacksonville and

1986
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 2: what they were last year, right, Indianapolis a lot of

1987
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 2: wishing and hoping with Richardson coming in, Well he gets

1988
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 2: hurt and then they still cobbled together in okay season right,

1989
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: all things being considered, and then Tennessee, well it went

1990
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: off the rails and you have what you have Jacksonville's

1991
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: second half of the year, between them and Philadelphia. If

1992
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 2: you want to decide, scratch who had the worst, you know,

1993
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: back half of a season, saying, all right, you see

1994
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 2: him to have held things together well enough in the

1995
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: first half. What went wrong over here? And it was

1996
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: a collection of things. But to the point, Houston, you

1997
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 2: get your big big man up front, right, and Anderson

1998
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 2: who's gonna be there for a decade. And obviously CJ.

1999
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 2: Stroud set the world on fire. And that's with tang

2000
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: Dell missing as much time as he did. Nico Collins,

2001
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 2: who nobody thought a ton of like we liked him

2002
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 2: a bit as a kind of a ninja sleeper guy.

2003
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 2: In other words, someone had to catch the ball. Couldn't

2004
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 2: have anticipated he'd step up to the level that he did.

2005
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the Bears, given all the names that

2006
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 2: are on the roster, and Caleb Williams, to his credit,

2007
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 2: he's owned up to it, right, He's flat out saying, like,

2008
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 2: all right, the joke that he had with Taylor, I

2009
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 2: know some folks got mad about it. What he can't

2010
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 2: take a dig at the Iowa futility and have a

2011
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 2: little bit of fun with it. It's like the guys

2012
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 2: play around a little bit I'm sorry that levity isn't

2013
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 2: for all of you in sports media. Ooh, he's really

2014
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: setting it, putting a target on himself, like he already

2015
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 2: did that in another interview where he said, look at

2016
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 2: all these guys that I'm playing. Well, if we're bad, yeah,

2017
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 2: then then things have gone terribly wrong and it's probably

2018
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 2: by fault.

2019
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 3: And I also think that you can point to them

2020
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 3: getting DJ Morris part of the deal, you know, but.

2021
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 2: That's just had all those other picks yea and.

2022
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 5: Yeah add on.

2023
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 3: I just think in the world when we live in

2024
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 3: the in that vacuum of getting your franchise quarterback, it

2025
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: isn't just about this year.

2026
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 5: I do think that last year needs to play a role.

2027
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 3: And I and I readily admit one hundred percent, I

2028
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 3: am a guy you talk about the Patrick Mahomes not

2029
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: being drafted by Chicago. You know, even if if if

2030
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 3: that was the case, there's no guarantee without Andy Reid

2031
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 3: being there, that that's that player ends up developing into

2032
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 3: that player.

2033
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 2: Right, because we talk about that all the time. Right,

2034
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 2: you go the right system, the right organize, where's their stability?

2035
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 2: Where is they're not?

2036
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 5: Right?

2037
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: For years, the Patriots were a model of stability. Guess

2038
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: what twelve was there?

2039
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 5: Right?

2040
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: I love Bill Belichick and the fact that people try

2041
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: to disparage and take away what they accomplished there is

2042
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: wrong because he built around that guy in when exerting power. Well,

2043
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 2: once he wasn't there and now now you can question

2044
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 2: an awful lot of movements. But was Mac Jones ever

2045
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: really given a chance to succeed? I would argue no.

2046
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,759
Speaker 2: So all the assailing of him as a player and whatever,

2047
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he was going to be a top

2048
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 2: five or tap ten player, right, but you didn't exactly

2049
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: arm him with any any kind of hope with the

2050
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:47,440
Speaker 2: Jets for years. I mean they're the running running laughings

2051
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: lit right, laughing stock of the of the NFL, where

2052
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, you go there. For the Bears,

2053
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 2: it was always receivers go to die well, and I

2054
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 2: like that Ryan Poles is just saying, look, we're not

2055
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: going to the past. That's the past, that's our history,

2056
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 2: that's where we're going. So for Caleb Williams, yeah, the

2057
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 2: assumption is that he becomes the first Bears quarterback to

2058
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 2: hit four thousand yards and thirty touchdown passes.

2059
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 3: That expectation or those expectations though so so lofty, is it?

2060
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the hall that we were thinking that

2061
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 3: Chicago could get for this pick was going to top

2062
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 3: what they got from last year's pick if they would

2063
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 3: have made the deal.

2064
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 2: Well, and that was going to be the curiosity, right

2065
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: wouit he double down on trading out of that pick,

2066
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 2: but as soon as Justin Fields wasn't there, And you

2067
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 2: can argue and discuss amongst yourselves, we'll do it here

2068
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 2: for a brief moment about why you make that pick,

2069
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 2: Like some folks put it to the sensitivity of the players,

2070
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 2: not just from a will the quarterbacks be able to

2071
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: handle it, but will the locker room because a lot

2072
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: of those guys in the room, you know, and look

2073
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 2: so long as the guys your quarterback, you're going to

2074
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 2: talk them up because you want the ball well, But

2075
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 2: the reality is you had one hell of a second

2076
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 2: half of the season. Yeah, Justin Fields and what that

2077
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 2: offense was starting to become now where there's still a

2078
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 2: lot of warts and problems. And did he hold the

2079
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,600
Speaker 2: ball on too long? Did he hold it out like

2080
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 2: a loaf of bread at times and cause chaos? Yes,

2081
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 2: he did but there were also times where he saw

2082
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:23,560
Speaker 2: the electricity and what could be if it really harnessed

2083
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: into a full on effort and a full season with

2084
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: a full compliment of players, which never came to fruition.

2085
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 2: So all of that to say, you made your choice,

2086
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 2: so it was now a done deal for the month,

2087
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: three weeks, whatever timeline you want to put on. In

2088
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,600
Speaker 2: all those bogus reports of he may not want to

2089
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 2: go to Chicago, Okay, sure, who did you talk to?

2090
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 2: You know, I got sources for a million things too.

2091
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 2: The guy at the end of the bar might be

2092
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: a source that heard he doesn't like Yeah, he doesn't

2093
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: like their history.

2094
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 3: How could you say? I'll say, and I'll say this

2095
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 3: about the Bears. I don't think people realize they won

2096
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 3: seven games last year. I think that people look at

2097
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 3: them as a four and thirteen team and they don't

2098
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 3: realize what did happen over the second half of the year.

2099
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 3: And maybe those that do realize are also setting that

2100
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: bar higher, because that's what you are going to need

2101
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 3: if you're Caleb Williams, to reach because there are there

2102
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 3: are legitimate expectations now with everything that you've added, making

2103
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 3: the or missing the playoffs in twenty twenty four would

2104
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:31,560
Speaker 3: be a disappointment.

2105
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: I think, no question about it. Not that you get

2106
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 2: the extra nine to ten seeds like you do in

2107
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: the engine area, but to your point, the extra wildcard

2108
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: spot is there. But like go back through the Bears

2109
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 2: the Bears year, gave away a game to Detroit, gave

2110
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: away a game to Denver, like there were other points

2111
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 2: in the seasons like all right, this is really starting

2112
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,839
Speaker 2: to trend. And you know, again, hope being a dangerous

2113
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 2: thing if you've lived a lifetime as a Bears fan, See, hey,

2114
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 2: this is starting to come together. And then wait, you've

2115
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 2: still got the number one pick. Yeah, and now you

2116
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 2: can go get this guy who has shown you that

2117
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: he can carry squads. And I thought it was interesting,

2118
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, you get into the points of, you know,

2119
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 2: guys getting drafted and how many guys from their offense

2120
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 2: got drafted along with them. Well, for Caleb Williams, you

2121
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: had a nice round number sure along the way, right,

2122
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,240
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2123
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2129
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2130
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 2: coming up. All the pageantry there, race season, the Triple

2131
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Speaker 2: Crown and everything coming up in short order. So all

2132
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: excitement there. He's Dad Mike coming up next. One of

2133
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 2: my favorite clips coming out of the draft weekend. Because

2134
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: you have a new man in Buffalo and they expect

2135
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 2: him to be a star. If nothing else, his press

2136
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Speaker 2: conferences will never be boring. But first, it's Isaac lowen

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Speaker 2: Kron with an update of what's going on in our

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Speaker 2: sporting universe.

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Speaker 10: Well, speaking of the NFL and Buffalo, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 10: have signed former Detroit Lions receiver Quintes Cephis, best known

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Speaker 10: for being suspended for all of last season because he

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Speaker 10: violated the NFL's gambling policy. Cefas was officially reinstated ten

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Speaker 10: days ago in Game four the NBA Playoffs on Saturday night.

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Speaker 10: It was the case of the missing shoes. The Los

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Speaker 10: Angeles Lakers stayed alive with a one nineteen one toweight

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Speaker 10: victory over Denver, which still leads the series three games

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Speaker 10: to one. But before the contest, Denver's shoes were mistakenly

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Speaker 10: loaded onto the wrong bus to the arena. It caused

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Speaker 10: multiple players to have to go through their pregame shooting

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Speaker 10: warm ups in flip flops. Yeah, here's how it sounded

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Speaker 10: when Denver head coach Mike Malone was asked about the

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Speaker 10: impact of the missing shoes in his postgame news conference.

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Speaker 2: Money's got to be the shoe.

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Speaker 11: Shoo, shoo, shoe. It's not the shoes.

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Speaker 5: Shoe, man, what about the shoes?

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Speaker 2: No fun, Money's got to be the shoes.

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Speaker 10: So Michael Malone, Sorry, guys, press the wrong button.

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Speaker 2: Wrong Mike here is Mike Malone?

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Speaker 11: Is that ideal?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: But I'm not an excuse guy, And I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to point to the reason we got our buts kicked

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Speaker 4: in the paint because shoes weren't here.

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Speaker 5: Is it ideal?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: And hopefully we can figure out and make sure that

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Speaker 4: never happens again.

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Speaker 5: But that's no excuses, no explanations. We didn't get the

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Speaker 5: job done.

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Speaker 10: Earlier Saturday night, the Boston Celtics did get the job done.

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Speaker 2: They led wire to wire in a one.

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Speaker 10: O four to eighty four victory at Miami for a

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Speaker 10: two games to one lead. Today's action tips off at

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Speaker 10: one pm Eastern Time from Philadelphia as the Sixers ho

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Speaker 10: It's the New York Nixon Game four, with the Knicks

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Speaker 10: leading the series two games to one. Finally, in the

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Speaker 10: Stanley Cup playoffs on Saturday night, the Dallas Stars in

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Speaker 10: overtime what at Vegas three to two. Vegas de leads

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Speaker 10: the series two games to one.

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Speaker 2: Fellas back to you, appreciate you, Isaac at Isaac Low

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Speaker 2: and crowd where you find him there part of the

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Speaker 2: Chargers team. Also Angels City FC for play by play,

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Speaker 2: go to his Twitter account. You get some of those

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Speaker 2: those calls.

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Speaker 3: I never once thought when I would watch the players

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Speaker 3: in their pregame and they walk in and the cameras filming,

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Speaker 3: you know, forty minutes to tip off. Here is Jason

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Speaker 3: Tatum walking into TD Garden. Never once thought like, why

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Speaker 3: don't they have their duffel bag with them with their

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Speaker 3: shoes like anybody else, anybody who ever you know, played

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Speaker 3: basketball or anything. So it never dawned on me that

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Speaker 3: there would be a case where their shoes wouldn't didn't

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Speaker 3: show up. But now like two and two makes like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're not walking in with their stuff. They're usually walking

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Speaker 3: in with their phone and whatever. Design shit, it's.

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Speaker 2: A full, full presentation, like they're walking a red carpet. Anyway. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but I kept seeing in my timeline the Michael Porter

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Speaker 2: Junior wearing slides picture or little gifts, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's going on, and I didn't explore it anything than that.

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Speaker 2: Then it's game time and all right. He was just

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Speaker 2: getting a bit cheeky, and certainly for Laker fans, look

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Speaker 2: how disrespectful they are. They're not even putting on their

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Speaker 2: seekers for warm ups. Yeah, they want to clinch at home, right,

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Speaker 2: you know they're thrown away a game. We'll give Lebron

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Speaker 2: one amazing. I want to send him home too early.

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Speaker 2: He's Dad on Mike coming out. Next the audio you

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Speaker 2: need to hear, and some good shopping advice, no question

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Speaker 2: about it. Next on Fox. I feel like I'm right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a crime drama and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do something chaotic right now. Who's ready? My Garbin Dan

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Speaker 2: byer with you here at Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday having a blast with you this morning. So much

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Speaker 2: that we've covered and if you missed any of it.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, the podcast is going to go up.

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Speaker 2: review the podcast, tell us how brilliant we were Again.

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Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

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Speaker 2: see the show posted right after we get off the air.

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Speaker 2: Three hours goes by.

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Speaker 5: Really fast, it does.

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Speaker 3: It flies by, and you know, it's great to look

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Speaker 3: back at the draft and the NBA playoffs and they'll

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Speaker 3: blow out city that it has been. But I just

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Speaker 3: to not to dive into this. Do you consider like

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Speaker 3: the start of the new NFL year in March? Do

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Speaker 3: you consider it at the start of the draft, or

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Speaker 3: do you consider it when training camps open?

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Speaker 2: I'd say, now, do you Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm a training camp guy, like I'm still like this

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Speaker 3: is a part of the previous season, even though it's

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Speaker 3: not like like it's once camp's open in July, That's

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Speaker 3: when I'm like, all right, now is the start of

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Speaker 3: the new year.

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Speaker 5: Let's do this like a.

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Speaker 2: Prologue kind of thing. This is all you know, make

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Speaker 2: believe and we're getting our kids.

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Speaker 3: It's connected because the NFL will actually go away for a.

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Speaker 5: Few weeks in June, like it actually will happen.

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Speaker 2: But does it really? It does then, because then we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Michael Penix a lot at that

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Speaker 2: point and maybe maybe some.

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Speaker 3: More hours and we're gonna talk about Michael Pennix a lot.

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Speaker 3: When Kirk Cousins gets picked off three times in a game.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's the other part of the chaos theory

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Speaker 2: that has now been introduced in the wonderful world of Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: It's so good they did it to themselves.

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Speaker 2: Hey, is is Phoenix going home tonight? Yes, they will

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Speaker 2: go out with a whimper in Minnesota advances. I just

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Speaker 2: think Minnesota is better.

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Speaker 3: And then the problems that Phoenix seemingly has, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think it's I think gets over tonight.

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Speaker 5: I do like that.

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Speaker 2: We've already had the conversation this week of whether Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant joins the Lakers this offseason. Yeah, Nick Philly coming

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Speaker 2: up in about an hour's time. Then you have Clippers

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Speaker 2: Dallas Kawhi Leonard and his knee. A huge question Paul

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Speaker 2: George of whether he's going to show up at all.

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Speaker 2: And I say that with sarcasm dripping from my mouth.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Milwaukee, Indy Man, I'm holding a lighting a

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Speaker 2: candle for your squad.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, buddy, something's meant to be.

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Speaker 2: No, that's right, you still have that title, and it's recent.

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Speaker 5: That is true. You cannot that's true.

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Speaker 2: They can't do that, all right. A guy who's gonna

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Speaker 2: take the metal stand this week is the best SoundBite

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman. Guy that we we thought we'd see day one. Well,

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Speaker 2: he comes off the board very early. Buffalo the odd

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Speaker 2: trade with Kansas, that's one of the other hedge scratchers,

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Speaker 2: just really quick, like, what are you doing? Even if

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Speaker 2: you don't want that guy, why do you trade to

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs to give them any advantages, any

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Speaker 2: perceived advantages. It's just stupid when that's the team you're chasing.

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Speaker 2: Oh and they've stuck the dagger in you several years

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Speaker 2: in a row. Anyway, Kean Coleman being asked about his

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Speaker 2: attire and getting ready for Buffalo Man.

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Speaker 11: You forgotten what the score in Michigan for two years?

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Speaker 4: Guess why I got this wrong though. That what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You got a guess You're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be wrong though, But guess.

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Speaker 4: Nah, Macy's what do you mean?

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Speaker 11: They be on sail on the rack.

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Speaker 4: All the colors look seventy nine eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Nice little deal.

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Speaker 4: You can get the trench coad for like one hundred dollars. Nicely.

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Speaker 4: I take it up personally. I might go get some

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Speaker 4: more colors. I need a blue one a and another

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Speaker 4: red one. See, I ain't I ain't know nothing about Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: I get you See, I'm shopped by my mom. I

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Speaker 4: get my coat in the summer time. You got to

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Speaker 4: shop to seas a season or two before, just in

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Speaker 4: case you know, any be cheaper because you go with

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving everybody and thingsgiving. You know what I'm saying, Oh

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Speaker 4: we go my bad hood. It is an.

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Speaker 2: How great is that gives you some shopping advice, I

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Speaker 2: mean wise words from mom. Get out of the crowd,

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Speaker 2: you get go on Thanksgiving in Black Friday sales because

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Speaker 2: everybody's looking for winter stuff because they know winter is nigh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and buy your Christmas wrapping paper on January third, rights.

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Speaker 2: Holloween decorations on November first, I mean all of those.

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Speaker 3: Things, and he's He's like me, when you fall in

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Speaker 3: love with like a shirt, I just want like five

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Speaker 3: different iterations of that shirt, whether it like be golf

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Speaker 3: shirts for me. Like, if I find like a brand,

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01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 3: I like, I'm like, all right, I'll just get four

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Speaker 3: different colors.

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Speaker 5: He's the same thing with his jacket.

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Speaker 2: Lay No, I had a nice little I mean it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a full Costanza Gore text, but it had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of No.

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Speaker 5: But he understands the cold weather for the time at

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Speaker 5: Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: I dig that the cold weather. And then the guy

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Speaker 2: responded with Tom is like, no, what do you mean? Well, no,

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Speaker 2: Masi's man, I mean, how quickly is he going to

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Speaker 2: have an endorsement deal with them?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Byer. I'll buy carbon. Thanks for hanging out

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. Coming up next year on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, got Aaron Torres, Kerry Rhodes again. Take us

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Speaker 2: with you all day long the iHeartRadio app, look for

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Speaker 2: the Eye Watcher Flex podcast. Thanks for hanging out. Have

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Speaker 2: a beautiful Sunday.