WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Verbal Assassin 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.920 The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:19.439 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out of the backfield. Next, 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.800 flowing down the sidelines, he's hanging with the boys, presented 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.800 by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:37.199 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. We 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.760 got the black JG in the building. Something's wrong on 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.360 my headphones. We can hear you, Yeah, we can hear you. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.280 I can't hear myself hanging with the buck. I got 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.040 it to worry about. This is bad, all right? What's up? Fellas? 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.640 You got that big old head and I know what 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:57.520 echoes in there, so you probably canna hear yourself. Tysha, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:07.119 take a shot, Okaya, go out. He takes shots at 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.919 me from the start, Just come in speaking positively, kicks 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:17.399 me in the head. Hey be quiet. Hurt his head? 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.640 My inssurance. They gonna cover that injury on my foot. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:28.280 Chicken that dome I ain't even been kicked us with. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.000 It's been a busy morning. This is me getting my 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.160 frustration off. Let us let us go out of us, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.920 keep it off. The kids and the parents have been 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.640 coming down on me at the school. Now you inside 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.600 when the kids out getting the flute, playing flame football, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:51.880 and you go inside and like get your hair wet. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.080 My dudes already he standing watching the window. You have 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.120 like a window that overlooks the the fields and you 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.520 just stand up there like this, Hey man, you need 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.040 to watch this. The only time I run out there 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.240 is if something bad happens, the kid is down or 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.400 something like that. I gotta make sure everything is all right. Yeah, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.000 we're gonna make sure everything's all right with this football team. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.600 We can do that. Yeah, yeah, man, playing the Bears, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.040 we're gonna get it back on track. I think you're right. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:24.480 It's gonna be forty degrees between forty five is the 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.919 high thirties, the low, no rain, no snow on the forecast. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.959 Will he play with gloves or will he not? Is 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.360 the question I had a question for y'all before we 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.239 get into this Cowboys Bears offenses and defenses. We gotta 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.920 come basically combine two shows into one today, but open 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:54.120 locker room. Yesterday. Amari had a quote um talking about 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.720 his contract. I take everything he says seriously. I do too. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.480 Anybody who doesn't talk much and they decided to talk 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.400 a lot listen and says yeah, and says, I haven't 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.800 thought about it much. I think that's BS. I think 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.560 he thought about it a lot. But he said like 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.240 I said, like I said, I love it here. I 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.320 want to be here. I just love this situation, my teammates. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.760 I just feel it's a place for me. Anyone want 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.160 to say, I've approached the situation like, if it ain't broke, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.000 don't fix it. Obviously, I'm more productive here than I 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.200 was in Oakland, so why would I want to change things? 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.160 So he has thought about it, and he said, I'm 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.680 not gonna I'm not gonna put the cart before the horse. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.960 We're still in the season. I haven't given much thought 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.840 to it. So I think he has thought about it. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.120 So he goes, I wasn't thinking about it, but at 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.560 least thought that I'm having. Yeah, but I ain't really 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.960 think it ain't broke, don't fix it. I like it here, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.000 my teammates here. I've been more productive here. But you know, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.800 I ain't really thinking about right. So do y'all think 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.520 obviously you gotta take care of Dak right, Yeah? You 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.280 is Amari a must sign guy? Do you have to 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.080 resign him because at some point you're gonna run out 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.280 of money, right Byron Jones is up. You just paid Zeke, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.720 you just paid Tank, you just played Lyle, you just 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.280 paid Jalen is a Maria guy. You have to have 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.160 on this team next year. I would think so, especially 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.920 after you gave up a number one pick for him. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.479 Definitely to um, He's one of the best whiteouts in 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.600 the game. You're gonna you know, your offense is gonna 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.840 result revolve around the passing game and hopefully Dak going forward. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.160 You need a big horse out there too. He can 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:36.479 throw too. So yeah, I think it's and and Jerry 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.440 has said that they've got the money to pay everybody. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.640 I think he said that before, at least these guys. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.520 I don't know Byron Jones is gonna be in the mix, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.160 but you don't hear much about Byron. Yeah, he may 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.960 be playing his way out of here. I don't sure, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.640 but yeah, I hope they sign him. Okay, what do 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.280 you guys think, Nick? It's hot in here too. It's 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.560 been freezing in here for two weeks and now it's 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:08.559 burning up. Jesus, what you're looking for, Nate? You got nothing? 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.479 Jesse I mean, give me your Jerry, give me a 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.360 Jason Garrett answer to what so what the question? Welcome 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.240 to the show. This is hanging with the bulls, Shannon Groves. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.360 He asked. He asked the question of you, and you 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.560 haven't answer yet. He asked the question of us, the group, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:33.960 the group we're waiting, Jess. I'll give you some ordium. Absolutely, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.400 you have to sign Amari Cooper. You saw what this 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.640 team was without him, and Kurt hit it right on 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.640 the head. This is a passing league. As much as 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.159 you you know you want to have the run, and 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.640 you will have the run. This is a passing league, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.440 period and if you don't have a number one stud 0:05:55.000 --> 0:06:00.880 in that league, then you're gonna find yourself like we 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.160 were the eight games before he got here. Also, you're 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.760 getting ready to give this other guy thirty five to 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.200 forty million dollars somewhere in between there. You want to 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.919 take a number one target away, right, You want to 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:20.560 do that, you know, And he's not Aaron Rodgers where 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.000 he can make anybody better. He needs a number one 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.520 guy to go out there and do what he does. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.719 And then at the end of the day, Jerry's all 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.279 about selling tickets. Baby, you need to name the selling tickets. Yeah, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.039 you'll go buy a Ferrari and then put a governor 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:38.840 on it where you can only drive sixty five miles 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.920 an hour. Right. No, So what you think Nate and 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:49.160 I think Jesse is correct? Isna be that one shot 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:50.880 at you and you get emotions or now you're going 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:56.559 to the show. Come on, I am enjoying the show. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.880 But I'm not Kurt saying it. He said you think 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.280 the same thing. Yeah, is a big part of who 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.520 Dak is. That's acceptable as long as as long as 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.960 you Yeah, No, you're not just I'm just waiting for 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.800 you to get on the topic that I'm gonna go 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.240 over the top on. What do you want to go 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:18.280 over the top on. No, I'm just I'm to bring 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.120 us the offensive defensive report Verton the Bows versus the 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.840 Dallas Cowboys. I think you gotta sign him if you 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.520 have the money. Like if it comes down to, hey, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.880 we can sign this guy, but we can't sign this guy. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.559 But if mister Jones is saying they've got the money 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.640 to take care of more guys, I'm with you and Jesse. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.680 You you don't sign Dak Prescott and the way that 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.440 this offense is turning into a passing offense. I mean, hell, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.440 Zeke barely touched the ball last week, like you can't. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.120 I don't think you can sign Dak and take that 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.160 away from Dak and then go. You know what, we 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.480 tried this receiver by committee before. Let's just give it 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.000 another shot. I think. And you gave up a number 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:01.560 one to get the guy in here. I don't think 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.720 you do that if you didn't have intentions of resigning, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.600 and if you're planning on doing any coaching change in 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.040 the future, you don't want a new coach coming in 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.520 here no tools, with no tools. Yeah right, let them 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.320 come in here with the toolbox full, so that way 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:22.040 you can get the best bang for your buck the game. Yeah, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.880 and I have to rebuild this thing and you don't 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.440 want you don't want how to do that. I'm with you. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.280 I'm with you, all right, Bears, we want to go 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.480 offense or defense first. Nate, No, I'm waiting on you 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.520 because no reason I'm saying no. I'm not trying to 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:41.600 be funny. That is, I asked you by twelve weeks ago. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.560 I said, who is Mitchell Mitchell Trubisky. I'm asking you 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.920 thirteen weeks you know what it's gonna be the same 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.960 as you asked what the Cowboys were twelve weeks ago 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:57.120 and whatever. Now we don't know. Yeah. So the Bears defense, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.520 you know, they they badge or the bone. I mean, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.400 they're not as good as they was last year, but 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.720 that's that was acting a lot for them to repeat 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:09.440 last year. But they played hard. They played hard. Man. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.600 They may be looking at their offense like their their 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.080 offense like Jacksonville, looking in their offense like we go 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.160 ahead and do it all every game and you got 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.719 this at quarterback. It could be at that point. So 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.839 but Mitch turned the corner lot and I'm not I'm 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.199 not here being a Mitch Trubisky apologist. Yes he went 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.160 to Carolina, Yes that is my friend, but I am 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.480 not a miss Trubisky apologist. He has not played up 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.320 to his status of being was number two overall pick. Yeah, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.120 number two overall pick. Not even close. And it doesn't 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.400 help that the guys that they passed they jumped over 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.320 to move down to get Mitch was Deshaun Watson and 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.360 Patrick Mahomes. That doesn't help your case at all. Yeah, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:57.840 that doesn't help in case at all. But here's the thing, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.600 and we've seen this, and we'll go We'll go Bears offense, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:08.080 Cowboys defense. We've seen what has happened to us when 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:14.080 we've allowed mediocre average, below average quarterbacks time in the pocket. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.000 If we don't find a way, somehow, some way, that's 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.640 what every team that Mitchrubisky has played against, They've pressured him. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.800 They forced him to play faster than he wants to play. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.480 They forced him into bad throws, they forced him into 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.840 missing reads, they forced him into all the mistakes that 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.079 he's had all year long. You've seen Mitch Rubisky being rushed, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.320 being being blitzed, and everything about his mechanics have been off. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.280 Now you just saw it on the screen. He's gonna 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.080 find Alan Robinson. He's gonna look for him first, he's 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.400 gonna look for him. Second, he's gonna look for him third, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.480 and those two have a really good connection. But if 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.000 you give it there now, he's not played up to it. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.720 But there was a reason mechanically that they thought that 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.400 he was worth the number two overall pick. If you 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.679 let him stay back there like a statue, like a 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.240 statue of liberty and throw the ball without having any 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.480 pressure on a consistent basis. He has the tools to 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:16.360 beat you. Period. They don't. They don't have much of 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.840 a passing game, but they have some spots where again, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.439 if you let Mitchell Trubisky stand back there, that's what 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.640 will happen to you. You gotta pressure this guy. You 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.439 gotta make the looks murky. You gotta make it. You 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.480 gotta confuse him a little bit. You gotta take him 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.920 off his spot. You have to get him in a 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.040 place where he's not able to throw the ball to 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.800 Alan Robinson or Taylor Gabriel or Anthony Miller. I mean, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.200 all of these guys that he's going to try to 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.120 get the ball to, and then David Montgomery into and 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.800 Teri Cohen and the flats getting the ball, getting in space. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.559 This is you gotta put them in definite passing situations, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.240 get them behind the sticks early in the downs. Make 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.360 Mitch have to beat you from the pocket. His stock 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.679 at the end of last year was going way up, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.880 and then this year, you know, they're kind of in 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.520 the same boat the Cowboys are. They were projected to 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.240 be a lot better, supposed they had a lot better 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.640 talent than what they're performing. What's been the what's been 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.640 the hole the hold up with Trubisky. Why hasn't his 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.840 stock continued to rise? Why did he maybe either dip 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.720 a little bit this year just kind of playing out. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.280 The offensive line isn't very good. That's we'll start there. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.800 The offensive line isn't very good. So the protection that 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:33.880 he's getting is not there. Um, you gotta understand the 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.480 division that he plays in like that. That's that's a 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.679 that's a tough division they're gonna play. You're gonna have 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.640 to be able to throw the football, but they're gonna 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.520 come after you as well. I think the biggest thing 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.760 for him. And you know what people thought, Matt Naggie 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:52.560 coming over is one of the disciples from Andy read 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.080 in Kansas City. They thought, you know, innovative offense, innovative 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.600 thinking guy that he's gonna be able to take much 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.360 Rubisky with that arm, that arm talent and do what 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.920 you saw it done in Kansas City, or see what 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.320 you've Andy Reid's done in Philadelphia with good quarterbacks. I 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:12.480 think the problem is is one Philadelphia and in Kansas City. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.520 You have some dogs. You got guys, You got guys 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.480 like Sammy Watkins, you had guys like the Cheetah you 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.839 got Travis Kelsey. I mean, you have weapons that get open, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.400 and so when you when the guy standing there, button 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.520 naked open, it ain't too hard to throw the ball 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.440 at him, you know what I'm saying. But when you 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.600 don't have guys that are creating separation, that are getting 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.880 open and you don't have time, all that armed talent 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.240 and mechanics and all that kind of stuff goes out 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.040 the window. Good Tom Brady this year, right, and Mitch 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.120 has come a little bit mentally fragile when you when 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.640 you had the press conference couple weeks ago, they say, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:50.920 you know, I want to turn the TV's off around 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.840 this building because everybody says stuff about us. WHOA, you 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.840 can't take people talking about you number two overall, Pit 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.920 You're the quarterback of the National Football League. Everybody's going 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.600 to talk about you, and so little things like that 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.920 that just kind of eats away at him and kind 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.240 of bothered them a little bit. And they don't they 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.120 don't have the talent that they had in other places 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.199 with you know, Matt Naggie and Andy Read, but they 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.160 still have a good enough team that if you don't 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.240 do what you're supposed to do so beat you what 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:23.840 are you looking at on their offense? Nate? Just where 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.360 he twenty twenty ninth and net yards for game two 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.600 hundred and eighty one, you know yards for played a 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.680 thirty if at four point four point five nine and 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.960 points for game they twenty seven and you know, seventeen points. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.640 I mean everything he's saying, he's right on, he's spot on. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.120 But I just hate for this kid. Now, one thing 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.240 he can't do is run. If he break contain to 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.080 get out of that plot, he can do some damage. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.680 He can run, man. And and like you said, uh now, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.000 this kid got better arm talent than the other backups 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.000 whatever that we played again, because that's municip what we 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.960 played against backup quarterbacks. He's not what he's a starter. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.960 Uh he can he can hurt us, man, They can 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.200 keep drives of eyes like that. So so what what 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.920 do the Cowboys? Like Football Outsiders has their offensive line 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.280 like rank twenty seventh. I mean, like you said, they're 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.680 not a good offensive line. Why won't this team Why 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.760 wouldn't they pressure? And why wouldn't they blitz? Or they 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.320 is a personnel thing they're worried about to us? Yeah, yes, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.480 sir is that that's not what we do. Okay, what 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.480 the last four or five secs you got been by dbs, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.440 so you gotta do something. Well, yeah, it's not what 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.080 we do. But do you think that's just that's not 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.040 the way Richard and Marinelli like it, or they think 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.840 they don't have the people on the back side back 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:52.840 into cover. I think a little bit of both. Um. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.920 When you go back and you look at what Seattle 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.200 was right, they were able to get pressure with the front, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.480 play a lot of Cover three or play man free 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.960 with Earl Thomas back there. Roman camp Chancellor was always 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.640 the guy when you look at camp Chancellor stats when 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.880 when they were when they were good, you know, Cam 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.720 would always be up in the eighty ninety tackle seasons 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.880 because he was a guy coming in filling in the box. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.760 They had that hard hitting safety and then the guys 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.000 up front they got pressure without having to add more guys. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.280 The thing with the Cowboys is they're trying to replicate 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.760 that in the sense of the scheme. They don't have 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:39.440 the talent, right. So I always say that the defensive line, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:44.040 more specifically the defensive ends and the DBS, they're they're 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.840 one and the same. They're tied. Okay, if I'm able 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:55.200 to defend a second longer, Quinn gets there, Tank gets there. Right, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.920 if I'm able to get there Quinn or Tank. Now 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.280 these guys now the granted again, Seattle had guys like 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.760 Richard Sherman and guys like Earl Thomas who are ball 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.440 hawking guys. So when the ball came out quick, they 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.360 were jumping in the problem is when the ball comes 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.040 out quick. Now that because Quinn and Tank are guys 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.560 like that are getting there. And I'm comparing the two 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.240 teams right, the two teams that Richardott has coached. Our 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.760 guys in the back end. Hell, they ain't even looking 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.440 at the ball. They ain't got the head turn. They're 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:33.000 not opportunistic defensive players where when you had, because that's 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.480 what they want to do. I want to I want 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.240 to hurry this quarterback so that he is throwing off time, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.040 he is throwing off kilter. And then on the backside, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:49.439 I want to have opportunistic defensive players dbs, linebackers, safeties 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.280 that when that ball is in the air, I'm not 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.160 just trying to bat it down. I'm trying to get 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.760 to the house. As they say. Now I'm trying to 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.240 get to the department. I'm trying to get to the part. Okay, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.560 we don't have that. We have guys that are just like, hey, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.520 if he didn't catch it, cool, if we can knock 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.720 it down, cool. And so what happens is when you 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.200 don't get those turnovers and you don't get that stuff happening, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.280 eventually those guys make a play, extend to drive and 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.040 now to get momentum. So it's it's more of this 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.560 is what Chris Rashard does as a defense, and we 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.160 don't have the personnel to replicate what he did, what 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.199 this type of defense, and he did it in the 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.480 Seattle Nate, you brought up Trubisky being a mobile quarterback. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.280 It's no secret the Cowboys have had issues. I think 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.439 we're playing every mobile quarterback except Russell Wilson that's in 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.960 the NFC this year. Yet right right, we may see 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.280 him in the world happen. Yeah, we were talking about today. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:55.760 There's a scenario where the Cowboys theoretically could host the 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:00.399 championship game. They could host the NFC Championship. It's a big, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.320 big if, but it's greater than zero percent. Greater than 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.800 zero percent, So you're saying there's a chance. How is 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.040 how And I haven't watched Forbisky a lot of I've 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.000 seen him a little bit, But how mobile is he 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.040 compared to say, uh drift goal? The quarterback that that 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.679 was in much better to me, much better because he 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.520 gave us issues too, getting out of the pocket and 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.080 getting much better. I think he's in of the same caliber. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.439 If this kid, If this kid is not rushed and 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.000 he gets a chance to stand back there and look 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.440 at it and then decide he wants to run, he's 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.680 just as good as that last kid we played. What's 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.240 your thoughts? I think he's just as good as kid 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.480 from Buffalo if he decided to run the ball. I 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.919 think he's just as good as that kid. Man. He 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.840 got some quick twitch about him. Yeah, yeah, he's you know, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.480 we always get this. You know he's no Lamar Jackson. 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:55.240 All right, well there's nobody. Let's not make him out 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.040 to that. But he does have athleticism to him, yes 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.160 he does. And what they want to do, he he's 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.800 actually when they get him moving, rolling him to his side, uh, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:09.520 you know, the waggles, the boots, he's actually better in 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.719 that sense. When he becomes a two way guy when 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.679 he can roll out kind of cut half of the 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.760 field off so he's not having to worry about breaking 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:17.919 down the whole field. Get routes that are right in 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.480 front of him. He can throw really accurately on the move, 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.119 and if you're not, if you don't contain or you 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.800 drop back, he'll tuck it. He'll tuck it and gonna 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.920 get the first down Like that that that he will 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.880 go do um so and again when tanking and when 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.840 guys like Covington or Tristan Hill, we hope uh or 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.760 or or Robert Quinn, when you get to him, you 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.080 have to take him down. You gotta take him down 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.000 because he's a big he's he's not a little little 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.480 nun like. He has some size to him, and he'll 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.480 he'll step out of a sack like he's just not gonna. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.560 He's not gonna tim Brady. You. He's not going if you, 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.080 if you tim fault right, if you if you get 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.960 around his legs, he's gonna, I give up. No, he's gonna. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.600 He's gonna. You're gonna earn the sack that you get 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.680 on him. 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