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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Chili.

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Speaker 3: Yeah chili, chilly today, even colder tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Woke up this morning, got up, walked out for breakfast

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Speaker 2: and asked Alexa, Alexa, what's the weather. What's the temperature

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Speaker 2: ever set up in the British accent? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's I think minus four something. Oh yeah, wow, frigid, frigid,

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Speaker 2: but not quite as cold now, but cold enough walk

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Speaker 3: At least the sun's out. It's warming much up.

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Speaker 2: It suns out and if you get your guns out,

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Speaker 2: you were insane. Insane, uh, Matt. Lots of talk about

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Speaker 2: today on the show. I saw the college football champions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State beating Notre Dame. Notre Dame made a game.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I thought that was over over, you know,

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Speaker 2: A lot of good players on the field, Yeah, on

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Speaker 2: both sides of that game. And we'll be talking more

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Speaker 2: about them as the in the coming weeks here as

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Speaker 2: we get closer and closer to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: But might have been a future Steeler playing last night,

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, First things first, I wanted to talk about this

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Speaker 2: particular story and our friend of the show, Jeremy Fowler

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Speaker 2: on ESPN when he's hearing or something like that, he

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Speaker 2: pulled this was his after the season, even though the

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Speaker 3: Learned quarterback stuff in there, as you can imagine, and

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Speaker 3: Steelers or quarterbacks were mentioned, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterbacks were mentioned. And he pulls some anonymous GMS executives,

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Speaker 2: scouts and that kind of stuff to come up with

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Speaker 2: this stuff. And his number one on this list is

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Speaker 2: at Sam Darnold will be a Raider.

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Speaker 3: I guess that adds up, you know. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: think that's understandable. I'd like to know who their head

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Speaker 2: Well, they're hot rumor now is that Pete Carroll really

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Speaker 2: That's what they've targeted. Okay, is he how old is he?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I thought he was older than that. He gets

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Speaker 3: around a lot better than you would think. But interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a culture changer. Yeah, there's some head coaching news

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Speaker 3: makes sense. Okay, Yeah, they can use their draft picks elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: I think Darnald makes sense for them. I would be

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Speaker 2: The second thing on here is that Aaron Rodgers will retire.

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Speaker 3: I tend to think that's the right move. I mean,

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Speaker 2: The next one on here is indirect. So Dan Graziano,

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Speaker 3: Diddy, I didn't click on his ooka.

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Speaker 2: He was also the guy, I might add, that was

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Speaker 2: So here's what Fowler wrote about this. People around the

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Speaker 2: You know, the Russell Wilson experiment was not a failure.

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Speaker 2: They need someone who can be the answer long term.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers select number twenty one overall in April, hardly

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people he pulled here to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that part because as the executive said, they don't

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Speaker 3: Right The one thing I don't love about that scenario

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Speaker 2: You might need a backup plan, you know. I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, without a doubt, is how do we not

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Speaker 3: you know, who's going to be your quarterback of the future?

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean I'm not sure they're going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what the answer is, to be

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Speaker 3: You know it's again we'll talk about it more digging

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Speaker 3: I also would imagine they've probably talked to Fields and

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Speaker 3: Wilson's agents about what kind of dollars are you thinking?

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Speaker 2: You know, well, that's that's the biggest part of that equation, right,

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Speaker 3: What you're comping them against, you know, similar players, but

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Speaker 2: So until you have those conversations, you really don't know.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's assuming, well it's Russell Russell Wilson has to have

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Speaker 3: What if he doesn't, What if he doesn't or Field

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Speaker 3: now at least wants to test his waters in free agency,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad business move. Yeah, you don't know.

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Speaker 3: You might And I don't think that's the case here,

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Speaker 3: but I definitely know that there. That's the case with

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Speaker 3: some free agentsies. I don't really love where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: The grass could be greener in a lot of these situations.

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Speaker 3: They don't love the city, I don't love the organization,

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Speaker 2: There's something to be said too for you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I want to be wined and dined and shown that

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Speaker 2: you know the keys to the city and you know

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Speaker 2: you're going to be our starter. Here's what we think

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Speaker 2: you want to you want to test the waters.

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Speaker 3: Or three days go buy know on calls like cool,

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Speaker 3: this isn't so great. Yeah, it's a little scary too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Mason Rudolph went through that, yeah twice

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Speaker 2: exactly the first time, you know, he the Steelers had

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Speaker 3: So no, it's a little bit of a game of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The next one here is that the Colts will

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Speaker 3: Not even the first round picking that back. It's a

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Speaker 2: The Vikings and Dolphins will take slight step backs twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It's some bad luck. But they got a year older.

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Speaker 2: Tyreek could be gone, probably will be gone. You know,

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill will be traded from the Dolphins to the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that happen.

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Speaker 3: I don't see that either. I think that'd be a

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Speaker 3: Within the division, I mean he kind of I don't

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Speaker 2: And he say where he goes. I can't imagine him

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Speaker 3: No, And if I'm New England, I'm not going for

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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean frankly, Tyreek to the Chargers

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Speaker 2: That's what the executives were telling Jeremy Fowler again, not

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Speaker 2: a lot of the reasoning that we've talked about. I

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Speaker 3: There's strong arguments pro and con both players.

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Speaker 3: None of them are glaring. I mean, like they're strong.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's any chance that they both return?

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Like if you didn't listen to yesterday, we had a

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Speaker 3: It's nothing like Kirk Cousins a year ago. Now, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's all things that have to be sorted

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt on the thirty third team. Today, Tyler Brooke,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I must came out later today.

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Speaker 2: I missed that for next year, and one of these

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Speaker 2: look through these here real quick. We'll save the Steeler

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Speaker 3: Who says no, I'm the Packers. I say yes. I

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Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a receiver or a tight end. Oh,

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Raiders and I can get that kind

437
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 3: of haul for Crosby, I'm probably in.

438
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: You played pretty well down the stretch without him, you did, right,

439
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean different coaching staff, different coaching.

440
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 3: Staff, right, But you also get Wilkins back too, and

441
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 3: they kind of overachieved on that side of the ball.

442
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: I kind of want a one though, I mean, is

443
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 2: it two and a three enough? I mean if I

444
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: if I say I about a one and a five,

445
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: were that that three has to be conditional, Like if

446
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 2: he makes if he's he makes the Pro Bowl or whatever,

447
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: he's all pro, then that bumps up to a two.

448
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: Two two's might.

449
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 3: Do it for you. Were they saying twenty six, Yeah,

450
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 3: I went something in this draft?

451
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Well, got it? The one drip the second is in

452
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 2: this Shue.

453
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, so okay, oh that's not bad. Then yeah, yeah,

454
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 3: I mean that may at two twos and we'll talk.

455
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, then they all the picks they can get.

456
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: Kenyan Green to the Chicago Bears. The Bears receive Kenyan Green.

457
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 2: The Texans receive twenty twenty five seventh round draft pick

458
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't move the needle.

459
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: I say, you're not gonna get much for him, a

460
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: seventh round pick. I'd give you a seventh round pick

461
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: for him. I mean, he's been bad. He's a former

462
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: first round pick, so his contract isn't nothing, even though

463
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 3: it's a rookie deal. I think it's up after this year.

464
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: No chance anyone's gonna pick up a fifty year option.

465
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 3: But a seventh round pick for a former first round pick. Sure, yeah,

466
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: but again, if we rewind to segments, I think Golden

467
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: signed Tray Smith makes more sense for the one of

468
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: the most cap spaces in the league. Is proposed to

469
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: grab both. You could do both, right?

470
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: Uh? DK Metcalf to the Los Angeles Chargers. Lincoln those

471
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Metcalf and a twenty twenty five sixth round pick. The

472
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,239
Speaker 2: Seahawks receive a twenty twenty five third round pick. If

473
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: that were the cost, I might be right.

474
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting. So I was sitting there thinking, what's the

475
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: link between the Seahawks and the Chargers, except for the

476
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: Chargers need to receiver obviously turn the team out there

477
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: that need it. He's certainly different than a coonkey downfield

478
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: guy for Herbert's big arm. But their defensive coordinator worked

479
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: for the Harbas. Yeah, that's the link, Okay, And it

480
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: took me a second. I mean they're they're they're head

481
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: coach worked for the Harbors. I mean, so he's in

482
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: the circle. Trust. I'm cool with that. I mean, I

483
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: think you get more for DK. He's got a decent contract,

484
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: he's volatile. They have really bad cap issues too, really bad,

485
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: and they need things. I mean there's been talk that

486
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: Geno Smith could be on the move just for cap reasons.

487
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Would that interest use the Steelers If it's a deal

488
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: like this, like a third round pick for Gino, I

489
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: think it's an upgrade. Seattle's a weird spot.

490
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see him trading away their quarterback when

491
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: they don't have one in the building cape the half.

492
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: One or right, Yeah, and they're not gonna go to

493
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: Howe No, and take a big step backwards, and I

494
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: can see Metcalf being on the move. Would you make

495
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: that move for you fore the Steelers?

496
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

497
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

498
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: Now you don't have a six round pick, that's the Yeah.

499
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: I'm called a five or you know whatever. Yeah, I

500
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: mean we're just don't or not have the six round pick.

501
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: Would you have a second for Metcalf? I have to

502
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: look into his contract. Is he up?

503
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Does he have to? It's a pretty good amount of money.

504
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: I think it's a good buck and he's gonna want

505
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: an extension to the issue. Now, I think I would

506
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: lean more so if it's Wilson because of the downfield

507
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: deep ball stuff.

508
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Well, and they have a they know each other.

509
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lockett's gonna get cut. You get him for nothing

510
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: with speaking of Seattle receivers.

511
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: But that caps eighteen million dollars this year?

512
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 3: Is it up?

513
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: Though?

514
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: After this year? After this year, I think you're gonna

515
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: have to extend him, that's the thing. And he's gonna want.

516
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: Many four twenty eight this year. That's not Yeah.

517
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think that's a bad target for

518
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: the Steelers. Now, I think it has to be said

519
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: Metcalf and Pickens on the field together.

520
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 2: It could be the tongue here thing. We're gonna get

521
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: to that volatility. Tyram Mathow to the Indianapolis Colts. Colts

522
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: received Mathol. The Saints get a six round pick in

523
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I think the Saints will move some

524
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: of their old dudes. Yeah, you know the Mario Davis.

525
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: He is way over them when he brings to the

526
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: table at this point, right right.

527
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: They're more names, they're older, they're good in the room.

528
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: I bet he doesn't want to leave. He's from probably

529
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: not on the LSU and all that, but and Marumo

530
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: could use a versatile leader safety.

531
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: He's also thirty two years old.

532
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean moves first six round pick though,

533
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's just a salary camp though.

534
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the final one on here is George Pickens

535
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: to the Washington Commanders, okay for a second round pick.

536
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: I thought about this, and it's a tough decision of

537
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: do you give him money now or not? Because it

538
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't be small amount. Love his talent, don't love his consistency,

539
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: and there's things about the personality today that are worrisome.

540
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Now I would consider it if I had Metcalf, if

541
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: I had Adams, if I had somebody else.

542
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. If you, if you're if you're

543
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: the Steelers, making this move you and here's his reasoning

544
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: for this, it might be time for the Pittsburgh Steelers

545
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: to move on from George Pickens. In addition to the

546
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: on the field, on field annex, and off field comments,

547
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers simply don't have the offensive firepower to keep

548
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: trying to be a contender right now. See that's throw

549
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: that out the window. That's that's horse crap.

550
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: So you should just roll with Austin and Wilson.

551
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're just gonna trade away all of our pieces.

552
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 3: And Scronx gonna be your number one receiver.

553
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: That that's ridiculous.

554
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: That's they're going to try to state at that pos that's.

555
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: Not based in reality.

556
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: No, they're not going to dump him for picks in

557
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven and hope that they find receivers.

558
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: But if if somebody were, if you could get a

559
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: second round pick for George Pickens from the Chargers, from

560
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: the Commanders, from one of these teams that are obviously

561
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: need an upgrade, to your point, you better have something

562
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: in place. You better be getting T Higgins in free agency,

563
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: you better be get you.

564
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: Know, Godwin Adams, a DK metcalf trade. I mean, somebody

565
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: is making money that I can throw the ball to

566
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: a lot.

567
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: Every week that I feel better about giving yes money too.

568
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: And maybe my first round pick played last night in

569
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: Ohio state, you know, and like, Okay.

570
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still want my I'm still going to have

571
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: to draft one.

572
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: Right and probably higher, but then I'm staggering their ages

573
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: a little bit better and eliminating a potential headache of

574
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, what the contract status is going to be.

575
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you can also franchise him. Maybe he loses

576
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: his mind if he franchised him. I don't know, but

577
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: he's gonna play. I mean, I don't know. I have

578
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: to be in the building. I don't get the impression

579
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: he's this terrible human being though.

580
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: I just he just may have reached his expiration. I

581
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: don't know this for a fact. I don't know.

582
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: We've seen other receivers here research expiration. Boy. Yeah, you know,

583
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's not the first time this has happened.

584
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, if you're the Steelers, you

585
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: look at this and go, do we want to. Is

586
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: this the guy that we want to pay give us

587
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: second contract to and if we don't.

588
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be twenty million, I mean, it's going

589
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: to be bigger than that man.

590
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: We don't want to give him the second contract to

591
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: him now because at best you're going to get back

592
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: a third round draft pick for him, a compensatory.

593
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: Pick, and that's a year from now and down the

594
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: road and all that kind of stuff.

595
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: And I don't know how George Pickens responds to not

596
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: getting a contract before the season.

597
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: And Liam Duck or you know whatever. Now next season

598
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: could go and you trade him the trade deadline. I mean,

599
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: you know that that could be your point of no

600
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: return where you still get something good for him if

601
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: things are going poorly to start the year.

602
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 2: But what if you're in it? You know?

603
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: So another wrinkle that I was thinking about with this

604
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: whole They're.

605
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Never They're never going to be a team.

606
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: They would be one and five.

607
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: They were two and six in the twenty what twelve,

608
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, whatever year it was two and six at

609
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. It didn't and everybody we got a

610
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: cup bait, got a cup bait. They didn't cut bait

611
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: they finished eight and eight. They're never going to be

612
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: that team that just starts selling different.

613
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's soll like Watt and Hayward. I'm

614
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: just saying that he's up at the end of the year,

615
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: that would be your last chance.

616
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: But you build your team. You build your team to

617
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: build your team, like You're not just gonna say we're

618
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: going to trade this guy away and.

619
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: Go through something small by you too, because I don't

620
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: know if there's room for him if you're building a

621
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: roster today. But this whole picking situation makes me want

622
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: to re sign Mike Williams more small money. I mean,

623
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: just to have him around. If you move Pickens, it

624
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: makes it a little easier, you know, it's just a

625
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: little easier. It's a small thing.

626
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: You know, we're signed somebody of that ILK.

627
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think you do that too.

628
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I'm saying you could. You could get

629
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: guys like Mike.

630
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: H It doesn't have to be him in particular, but right,

631
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm a big ball winner.

632
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't, right, I mean, they're going to be

633
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: guys out there that do those kind of things that you.

634
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Know, not as well as George. I mean, it's ridiculous

635
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: at it, but right or I mean, you have to

636
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: know where he's at. You know, I don't think it's

637
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: insane to think he could get traded if you I'd

638
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: also like to add some kind of more draft picks, yeah,

639
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't know who else you could

640
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: turn that into pick more draft capital in this draft.

641
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Well, let's stay instead instead of DK, Metcalf to the Chargers, right,

642
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: and you get a third, get DK for a third,

643
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: and you can get a second for pickens.

644
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: I think I would do that.

645
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: You've swapped out that and you've.

646
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Gained a lit a draft pick, right, I think I'm

647
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: in on that if that's more or less what the

648
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: deal is. Yeah, you're paying one of the two now

649
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: or real soon.

650
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Even if I had to do that and trade away

651
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: my fifth round draft.

652
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: Pick, yeah, that's fine, or a future fifth or yeah, right,

653
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: right to make that swap, yes, because I can easily

654
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: afford Metcalf. I don't know that I can get Higgins.

655
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that I can get Godwin.

656
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: You don't know you're going to get any of those

657
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: guys free agency sign wherever the hell they want.

658
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: And some teams have massive needs and massive pockets too. Yeah,

659
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: something like that really interests me. Yeah.

660
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: So, and I'm still.

661
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: Drafting one probably in the top three rounds at a minimum.

662
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, with size if I were again, I'm with you, though,

663
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: if I'm going to make that deal and go get

664
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, I'm keeping.

665
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson preferably. I mean, it doesn't mean it's more

666
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: attractive with Wilson if I already because I think you

667
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: already made your deal with Feet. I mean, you know

668
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: you already made your mind up FIRSTDS as a guy,

669
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: no matter what, if I did pick fields first, it

670
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't prohibit me from making the Metcalf trade.

671
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with any of the Seahawks are up

672
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: against the salary cap, right right, they're going to have

673
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: to make moves like this before the new league year begins.

674
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess these are going to happen before free agency. Further, right, they.

675
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Got to get under the cap, and if they're going

676
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: to get on, it's either that or they got to

677
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: start cutting people. And they're not going to want to

678
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: have to cut people until they have to cut people.

679
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: If they can make a move like this, which.

680
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: Probably means you get them at a slighter discount too,

681
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: the earlier you do it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

682
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: can go into the new league year with Metcalf and

683
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: Pickings on my team. I can go into Week one

684
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: with them and throw them a lot of balls, you

685
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

686
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: But to your point, they are both volatile on the field, Goteah,

687
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: And they're very similar style of players in terms of

688
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: what they do for you.

689
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: They are they are. I mean, like it's a little redundant.

690
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: Now. The the flying the ointment here is what if

691
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll does become the head coach of the Las

692
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, does Pete Carroll, who drafted DK Metcalf in Seattle, say, Hey,

693
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: if he's available, I want him.

694
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: I want him? Right? Maybe? Absolutely, Yeah, I mean I could.

695
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: You're not the only team that want them.

696
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing.

697
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: Sure, the Chargers we've talked to. I mean, there's I

698
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 3: think there's plenty people that could get one Dk Metcalf.

699
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: So what if you had to give up your two

700
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: to go get DK Metcalf, then you'd have to get

701
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: a two back for Pickens.

702
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: Pickens is more valuable than Metcalf.

703
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right. Now, he's younger, and he's younger for

704
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: a year.

705
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's actually more talented too, you know.

706
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things.

707
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. You know, if I was Washington, I

708
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: could pick one of the two. I would take Pickens.

709
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: Maybe you can get a little more of that.

710
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Washington would make him going to be late, though. Washington

711
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: would make some sense in this this point. They have

712
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin there, who can be the adult in the

713
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: room with George Pickens.

714
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, big time. And their ages are greatly standard.

715
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Right, whereas George Pickens, to say, the Chargers wouldn't make

716
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: as much sense. No, because your top guy right now

717
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: is Lab McConkie. Now they did play together at Georgia,

718
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: but you know, how does that mix together.

719
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: I'd still want a veteran if I was Harball. Yeah,

720
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: and somebody that's been around the block that I can trust, you,

721
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Robert Woods even, I mean somebody this is that's been

722
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: around you know.

723
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could count on Keenan. Allen's rumored to want

724
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: to go back there too.

725
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: He's another free agent.

726
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also plays a slot like Lab McConkie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

727
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of musical chairs there. But I do

728
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: think Metcalf has a really good chance to get moved.

729
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah so, I but I do think that it has

730
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: to happen before the new league, yar, unless they're willing

731
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: to start cutting other guys.

732
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: There's a three or four really cash straft teams. And

733
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: I know he's coming off concussions, but what about it

734
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: like a lavee. I mean, if you can get a

735
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: first round player for third okay, you know, man, if

736
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: your doctors check them out. There's three or four teams

737
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: that are really in bad cash situation right now.

738
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: So right now I'm looking on spots Track. The Saints

739
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: are fifty million dollars over the cap.

740
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're worst.

741
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: The Browns are twenty six point eight million dollars over

742
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: the cap. Seattle is twenty three point four million dollars

743
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: over the cap, Miami's Miami is close to fourteen million

744
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: dollars over the cap. Atlanta's six million, six point three

745
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: million Dallas is basically rate at the cap at minus

746
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: nine seventy three, So that leaves Metcalf. Buffalo is minus

747
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: one point five.

748
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: Metcalf hill and the lave is the only potential targets

749
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: from those teams.

750
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: But as we just we showed you yesterday? Was it

751
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: yesterday when we went through the Steelers salary cap situation?

752
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Those teams all have the same They know they're over

753
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: things in place that they can trigger.

754
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 3: Some things, you know. But they probably know Hill won't

755
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: be back, that Calf won't be back though, Yeah, and

756
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: so does everybody. But who gives you the best deal.

757
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: Right, that's the that's the thing here. So right now,

758
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: Gino Smith for them is forty four point five million dollars,

759
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: and now that's why he's been rumored. But they just

760
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: gave him a new deal, so I'm sure they can

761
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: create some cap space with him.

762
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: Two are their other big hits.

763
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure Leonard would met counts thirty one point eight

764
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: million against their cap. Tyler Lockett is thirty point that

765
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: he's nine million dollars. He's getting cut.

766
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: I mean you could pick him up cheap too.

767
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

768
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: I don't think he's your answer, but no, he could

769
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: be your adult in the room.

770
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams is twenty nine point one, great year, Draymont

771
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Jones is twenty five point six. It Chenna Nuosu is

772
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: twenty one point three. Ouch.

773
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, they rebuild, no line.

774
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: No offense, is thirteen to five. And then Devin Witherspoon's

775
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: still a rookie, but he counts eight point seven early pick. Yeah,

776
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: so he's not going They got some some big numbers there,

777
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: be shocked.

778
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: The Metcalf comes back the more I think through this.

779
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: Thirty one point nine million basically right right, it's a

780
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: big and his base is only eight.

781
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: Order. They're in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah so and everybody

782
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: knows it. So you're not gonna give them a first

783
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: for him, no third and five. Swap pickings for two

784
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: and a five, trade them pickings. That's here.

785
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: You deal with that, right, Yeah. So just something to

786
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: throw out again, not advocating one way or the other,

787
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: but these things have to be all considered everybody's Yeah,

788
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: it's something that you know, if you're not going to resign.

789
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: Him, now's the time to move. Now's the time to move. Yeah, yeah,

790
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: that's the way it has to work. Yep, absolutely, resign him,

791
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: then resign them.

792
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Now let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

793
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

794
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

795
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

797
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson

800
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Speaker 2: and Matt. The Senior Bowl practices will kick off a

801
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: week from today. Nice and I was asked on the

802
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: message board over the weekend, why we talk about the

803
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: Senior bowe we don't talk about the East West Shrine Bowl. Uh, yeah,

804
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: Well it's not a bad question. It's not a bad question.

805
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: But here's why. Yeah, the Steelers last year. First of all,

806
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: by the end of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,

807
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: there had been one hundred and ten players who participated

808
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four Senior Bowl who were drafted

809
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: from what was the number from one hundred and ten

810
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: from one point who played in the Senior Bowl last year.

811
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh okay, they were.

812
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: At the Senior Bowl this year, one hundred and ten

813
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: of them. That's basically every basically the whole roster, right, Yeah,

814
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: of that, maybe one of the long snappers wasn't or

815
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: whatever something like that. Of that group, the Steelers' top

816
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: four picks all played in the Senior Bowl last year.

817
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: Not a coincidence. Mike Tomlin goes to the Senior Bowl,

818
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: boots on the ground, Mike tom and Omar Kahn are

819
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah, So yes, we're

820
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: going to talk more about the Senior Bowl than we

821
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: do the Shrine Bowl.

822
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: It's the I mean people might not know this. That's

823
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: why I think that's a good question. I mean there

824
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: used to be a handful, Like I went to the

825
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: Hula Bowl when I was with the Brown and there

826
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: were a high percentage of those guys were drafted. But

827
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: it's nothing like this, not like the Senior Bowl.

828
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Is the king now. The Shrine Bowl is trying to

829
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: push in to that. They're trying to their number two.

830
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: They're number two and they're getting they got some good players.

831
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: George Sanders is going this. Yeah, I mean like they're

832
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: going to have a top five type pick. I think

833
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: he's doing that so he makes it easier on himself.

834
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's a kind of a marketing ploy, to

835
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: be honest.

836
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: And he's going to Jerry World. That might have something

837
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: to do with it too. They play in Dallas and

838
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: a high percentage of those guys will be in camps

839
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: for sure, and a lot will get drafted too, But

840
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl is the is the higher profile game.

841
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: It just absolutely is. Yeah, you said, almost all those

842
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: guys will be in the camp, all of them will

843
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: be picked. Their average draft position will be way higher

844
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: than East West. But I don't know exactly what the

845
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: Steelers do. There's be a ton of scouts at these

846
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: West n scout the Shrine bowls of course, right, but

847
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a huge event, but the Senior

848
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Bowl is the event.

849
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: Looking here. Actually, while we're talking about the Shrine Bowl, this,

850
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: according to James Foster, some players who could see their

851
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: stock improve while at the Shrine Bowl practices. Uh. One

852
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: is Braden Swinson. He's an edge rusher out of LSU.

853
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not going to know any these names. I mean, yeah, yeah.

854
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: Another is linebacker Chris Paul from Old Miss. Okay.

855
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: It's definitely a good forum. I mean, they structure it

856
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: the same way. You're still doing one on ones. You're

857
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: doing big guys versus big guys in one end zone

858
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: while receivers and corners are going one on one man coverage.

859
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: So there's a ton to gain from it. But they're

860
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: just not the same They're not the same level. It's

861
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: not the same level I can give you there where

862
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: they have these guys ranked in their prospects for they're

863
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: probably like fifth rounders, you know, right.

864
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: So Swinson his overall ranking is thirty seventy.

865
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: Two amongst all players. Yeah, okay, and he's probably one

866
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: of the higher profile dudes there.

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Speaker 2: Paul is one oh three.

868
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these are mid round picks.

869
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Defensive lineman Jordan Phillips from Maryland. He is a

870
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: defensive tackle kind of guy. His consensus ranking is twenty.

871
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Like, for example, Maryland has a receiver I kind

872
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: of like he's going to see he's going to the

873
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl two twenty tackle goes to the West Shrine.

874
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Defensive lineman C. J. West from Indiana. He's another

875
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: big body note defensive tackle type, kind of a nose tackle.

876
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: And his consensus ranking is one yeah yeah right, I

877
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: mean but he's somebody you keep an eye on. Oh yeah,

878
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: he's going to be on every draft board. Yeah right,

879
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: uh you may. I'm in for a visit.

880
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys, this isn't a junk game. No

881
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: go to this game.

882
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, uh, cornerback Kobe Bryant from Kansas.

883
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryan's popping up, by the way.

884
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but he's a guy that I've looked at it,

885
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, different spots. He's just he's got the length,

886
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: but he's a little light.

887
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: And says he leaner.

888
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: Ye yeah yeah, but he had thirteen career interceptions, so

889
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: get He's on everyone's radar.

890
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean, every one of these games is on everyone's right.

891
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive tank tackle. We drafted him the other day.

892
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Crenshaw Dixon from Florida.

893
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: M hmm, okay, they're.

894
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: Comping his guys on here to comp them, he constant.

895
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: Tom Morgan moses, okay, right in that that's great. His

896
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: consensus ranking is two seventy three.

897
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: The other thing that happens, folks, is people will back

898
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: out of the Senior Bowl or pull a hamstring on

899
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: Tuesday or not well. Pretty comfortable.

900
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: For example, if you're like, both quarterbacks who played in

901
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: the National Championship Game last night are scheduled to go

902
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl. Yeah, are they both going to

903
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: go having just football for the last four weeks?

904
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: Probably not? Probably not. So they're going to back out

905
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: and somebody else will go. Usually someone from the Shrine

906
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: game that does well this week gets called up to.

907
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: The seabl right.

908
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Some of those quarterbacks and a lot of the scouts

909
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: never even go home. They just go from this game.

910
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: To the straight. Cornerback Zah Frasier from UTSA and his

911
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: consensus ranking is two thirty one.

912
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these are again, I bet ninety five

913
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: percent of these guys end up in a camp. Yeah,

914
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: and maybe fifty to sixty percent are drafted, but there

915
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: won't be many top fifty picks, probably none.

916
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: Quarterback Max Brosmer from Minnesota is consensus ranking is three

917
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: to Zho nine. Although they have them, these are the

918
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: their rankings. They have them at number eight on their board.

919
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: Compare me to quarterback, Yeah, compare them the Cooper Rush.

920
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean, those are the type of comps you're gonna

921
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: get at these games, you know, like long term backups,

922
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: thirty steady blah blah blah.

923
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Those are the biggest r and late rond draft picked

924
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: right right again, and these are guys who could shoot

925
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: up draft boards.

926
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: Five of these guys will go to the combine and

927
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: test way better than you thought.

928
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: And like boy and he was really impressive.

929
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Of the Shrine Game, and I'm gonna go back and

930
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: watch his Week five tape against Georgia that I didn't

931
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: watch yet. You know, he's better than I thought.

932
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: But even like you sent me last week a thing

933
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: with the top prospects at each position for the Shrine

934
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: Game and the Senior Bowl, it's not close. It's not close.

935
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 3: It's not close.

936
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: There are some players who go to the Shrine Game,

937
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: and okay, I get it, ye that are good, you know,

938
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: high high end prospects, including Shador Sanders, But which is

939
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: just a marketing Yeah, you're right, but the Senior Bowl

940
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: gets more, gets more because I guarantee you the folks

941
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: that are going to the Senior Bowl also got invited

942
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: to the Shying Game, and they're not going.

943
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: To do both. You're not going to beat yourself up

944
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: for two weeks. So you always pick the Senior Bowl,

945
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: unless you're Sanders for whatever reason he's doing. Yeah, but no,

946
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: they're not the same game. But I'm glad somebody asked

947
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: us though, because they if you don't do this for

948
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: a living, you might think, oh, what's the difference, you know, like,

949
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure if I think they televise the

950
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: shining game, but the game they do. I can't remember if.

951
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: Practice practices, and I don't believe not as not as

952
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: much as are Everything is every practice and I watch

953
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: every second of it if I'm not there, and I

954
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: will when I get back from there, you know.

955
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's kind of like watching the combine.

956
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: It's well, you know, received, Yeah, it'll then there's a

957
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: lot of first round picks on the field.

958
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely ten last year. Okay, yeah, I think it was

959
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: thirty five guys who were drafted in the second and

960
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: third rounds.

961
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: Adds up. That's a good group on a round.

962
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: We had forty five guys who were drafted in the

963
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: first three rounds out of the Senior Bowl. That's why

964
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: you talk more about the Senior Bowl.

965
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because it's the better honor. Yeah, it just is.

966
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, I just wanted to Yeah, uh, anyway,

967
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: let's get to a break here. He is the Matt Williamson.

968
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lally. That's going to do it for

969
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: our number one of the drive when we come back.

970
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: We mentioned this yesterday. We're going to do a mock

971
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: draft based on Justin Fields being our quarterback moving forwards

972
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: see if that changes anything that we do here, do

973
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: that like it, right after this