1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: day from one until four o'clock. After four o'clock John 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show on demand, that's the podcast, and listen to 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: what you missed. And we've had quite a jam packed 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: show with big headlines since one o'clock. So if you 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: haven't been able to be with us, please go look 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: for it on the podcast. I'll tell you about some 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: of it coming up later in the hour. I want 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: to get right to David Goldbloom here. He is director 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: of a really a powerful emotional documentary called Big Rock Burning, 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's about people who live in Malibu's Big Rock 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Community as they try to come back after the fire 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: that wiped out many of the homes there. Let's get 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: to David Goldbloom on. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, John, I'm. 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Really glad to have you, and I'm a little fired 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: up because we just found out the new details about 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: the Palisades fire. What got you in? What motivated you 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: to do this documentary? 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I guess a little bit of craziness. My 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: home burned down and the fires and that night my 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: community very tight knit community in Big Rock and Malibu. 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: We formed a WhatsApp group and people That's how we 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: were getting information out together. That's how we were finding 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: out that no help came. There was a standdown order, 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: no firefighters, no water, and the reservoirs were kind of 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: became a news network overnight, and everybody just kept saying, 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: we have to get our story out there. How come 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: not one firefighter came to our mountain the entire night. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Of the fires. 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 2: And I kept hearing that for a couple of nights, 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: and the more people kept saying, we got to get 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: our story out there. Eventually, I was just like, Okay, 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: if we want to tell this story, I'll jump in 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the ring and I'll shepherd it. And I think over 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: forty residents who had lost their homes reached out to 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: me and said, you know, we're on board, we'll do 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: whatever we kind of help you. 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: And where is Big Rock in Malibu exactly so people 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: not familiar can place it. 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: So if if you think about the Palisades fire, it 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: went down the pH and really the first mountain enclave 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: leading towards Malibu was was Big Rock once you pass 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades. So it's kind of at the beginning of Malibu. 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: And what what fired. Jurisdiction covers that community. I think 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: La County, La County, So that's who you were waiting 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: on to come and nobody did. 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were apparently there was a stand down order and. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: The standown order events. 51 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the residents heard it on a dispatch. 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: It's really common in fires, right, a standout. Rather than 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: send more guys, send less guys. In fact, don't send anybody. 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: Stay home. 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: Well, I guess let it burn with the mantra. 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what what what it really was, wasn't it. 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: It really was the philosophy. After the first don't know, 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: a couple of hours, it's like, ah, nothing we can do, 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: let it go. 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it wasn't just fire to somebody in the film, 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: she called nine one one and they kind of just said, sorry, 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: we can't help you. And she was stranded on a mountain, 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: like on a boulder, Yeah, with fire all in coon 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: like all around her and just there was every man 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: for themselves. 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: How do you feel like like today? I don't know 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: if you heard. We've got another round of stories from 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the attorneys representing the Palisades owners and it looks like 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the state put a stop to the LA Fire Department 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: cleaning up the January first fire, which is where the 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: rekindling happened, because they wanted us to protect the Milkfitch plan. 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: So no bulldozers, no fire lines, no tamping down the hotspots. 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: When you hear these things, and there's been a lot 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: of these stories, how do you feel, like, what does 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: that do to your psyche? 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: It's really sad and it's really disappointing. And I was 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: on an La Times Studio podcast the other day and 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: I said, it makes you kind of not want to 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: be here anymore. You know the fact that nobody has 80 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: stepped up, nobody's taken accountability, nobody said we messed up. 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: And what I wanted to do with our film is 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: to show the human stories of loss and grief and 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: resilience too, and kind of show these were real people 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: who lost everything. 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I felt and I didn't know anybody in your film. 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I felt so sad for everybody. I thought sad. I 87 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: felt angry, and it's like this shouldn't happen to these people. 88 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: These are regular people just living their lives. 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Yeah. 90 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: It's what kind of reaction. Have you gotten to the 91 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: film and where's it playing and how can people find it? 92 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: It's been incredible because I think this whole issue has 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: become somewhat of a political hotbed, and I tried to 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: I tried to focus on the human stories. Yes, we 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: call out a lot of people for what they did 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: or didn't do, but it seems to have been well 97 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: received all over the map, maybe except for Carabath, but 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: everybody's really appreciative. And we premiered at Malibu City Hall 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: to a sold out crowd in August, and I think 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: almost everybody there had lost their homes and some fire. 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: And then we've been around the country. We were at SCAD, Savannah, 102 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Mill Valley, Newport, Santa Fe. And now we're coming to 103 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: PBS on the anniversary of the fire, so to be 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: broadcast into twenty million homes across California. 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: All right, So you've done a lot of film festivals 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: and now PBS and it's going to be on January seventh. 107 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Yep, the anniversary of the fires. 108 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. So it's going to be seen all 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: over the country. I mean, it's impossible not to get 110 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: emotionally affected while you're watching it. I actually had to 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: stop it a couple of times because you know, I'm 112 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: covering this stuff every day, and you know, nothing bad 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: happened to me. That's why I cannot imagine what it 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: must feel like to suffer the trauma. And then you 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: get reminded of it every day or every week. You know, 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: as more and more of these stories come out, it's 117 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: got to be just just unbelievable. But you know, there 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: was a sense of optimism in some of the people 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 1: also with the sadness. Yeah, it was fascinating to see 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: like all those human, human emotions playing out at once 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: in the aftermath. 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one character in the film. He stayed behind 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: and he fought with a garden hose, and that was 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: the kind of seme of that night. The people who 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: stayed behind were fighting with garden hoses and pool water 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: and bathtub water. But his home survived the night of 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: the fires. And then the next morning, Yeah, he went 128 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: around and he went from home to home. That's how 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I found out my home had burned down. He took 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: everybody's address and the WhatsApp group and he was driving 131 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: around telling people whether their housemade it or not. Because 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: we were all kind of wanting the sense of closure. 133 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: And then he got back to his home and his 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: home was burning, and. 135 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the toughest parts of the film. Yeah, 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: because he's just standing there looking out over where the 137 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: house used to be and he had saved it, and 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: then he tried to help everybody else out and that's 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: when the fire came back and got him. It's just, yeah, 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: that is some story you mentioned in passing that Karen 141 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Bass didn't necessarily have a good reaction. Has she seen 142 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: or she heard about the movie? I mean, what. 143 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: You know, I when I we started three days after 144 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: the fire, and I had reached out to everybody. I 145 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: was trying to get everybody to just kind of have 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: a voice. And I reached out to Karen's office and 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: really was persistent, really trying to get her to, you know, 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: be on camera have an interview, and they kept just 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: saying she's done a lot for the community in Malibu already, 150 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: and she has a busy schedule. And I was kind 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: of like, I'll come anywhere, you know, I don't know 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: where she's been in Malibu. I haven't seen her, but 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: she was not I don't think she wanted to be 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: part of this. 155 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: No, no, Well, the movie is fantastic. I'm glad that 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be on PBS and the whole nation 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: can see it. And you've had great reaction at the 158 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: film festivals. And it's thirty minutes, but it's some of 159 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: the most powerful thirty minutes you're ever going to experience. 160 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: Thank you, John. 161 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So good luck with it, and as time goes on, 162 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: anything you need from us to publicize it further or 163 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: in any way try to make life better for the 164 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: people there in Malibu, just let us know. 165 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you a quick send your show. 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, David Goldblum, and again PBS on 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: January seventh, the anniversary of the fire, and you get 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: to see his documentary. That's two documentaries out. Now we're 169 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: going to talk. I got to talk about I'm still 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: like nuts over this milk vetch plant and what we 171 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: found out from Roger Bailey, the Palisades Attorney. I'm going 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: to talk a lot more about that coming up. 173 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM. 174 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Six forty run every day from one until four o'clock. 175 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio on social 176 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: media and moistline is eight seven seven moist eighty six, 177 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six and tomorrow's Friday, and 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: we're going to play back two rounds of it, one 179 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: at this time a little bit after three twenty and 180 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: then again a little after three point fifty tomorrow. I 181 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: just got it. You know, We've had a lot of 182 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: people on the show. There's been a lot going on today, 183 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: and I just want to talk about what we did 184 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: at two o'clock, which you if you weren't around it, 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: to please please please listen. Roger Bailey, the attorney for 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the Housays residents who were wiped out in the fire, 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: He shared with us texts and maps. It is true. 188 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: It is true. State Park reps the night of the 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: January first fly a fire known as the Lachlan Fire, 190 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: and the day after they interfered with the LA Fire 191 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Department in putting out the fire completely. There was a 192 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: there were hotspots, there was smoldering land, smoldering rocks, hot rocks, 193 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: hot tree stumps, the whole thing and they needed a 194 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: lot of treatment by the fire department. Whatever the procedures are. 195 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: They needed to bulldoze to create a fire line so 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: if it flared up again, there would be some kind 197 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: of protection to halt the flames again. This is in 198 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the middle of extreme fire warnings and extreme wind warnings 199 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: from the National Weather Service. And the first thing that 200 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: the state parks employees did, and we are going to 201 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: get the names of these people two three am on 202 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: January first. God, that's got to just be less than 203 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: two hours after it started. There is a text that 204 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: went out to one of these Parks department employees. Hi, Christy, 205 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: are at the fire and Christie replies, I will be. 206 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready now. And then Christy is told there 207 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: is federally endangered astragallus along to Mesical fire Road. That's 208 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: the Latin name commonly known as the milkvetch plant. Supposedly endangered, 209 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: but as Roger Bailey pointed out, it actually tends to 210 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: recover very well after a fire. Would here's the memo. 211 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: Would it would be nice to avoid cutting it if possible? 212 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Do you have avoidance maps? I have a couple of 213 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: resource advisories on standby. I'll wait to deploy them until 214 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: you get on SENE and assess the situation. Definitely will 215 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: want to send them down. Meeting these avoidance maps if 216 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: heavy equipment arrives, and Christy writes back, Okay, I'll let 217 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: you know. So while people are sleeping New Year's Eve 218 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: into New Year's Day two o'clock in the morning, the 219 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: demise of the Palisades was already starting to happen, already 220 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: destined to happen, because in this text exchange, it's clear 221 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: that they're not going to bull those paths to prevent 222 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the fire from rekindling and spreading because there are milk 223 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: vetch plants there. You can't make this up. And so 224 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: that's why there are photos of a State park employee 225 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: interfering with the LA Fire Department. That's why the fire 226 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: department rolled up the hoses and left. They were getting 227 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: pressured from the Parks department. The fire started on State 228 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: park land, and as Roger Bailey said, if you look 229 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: in the manual, it is mandatory that you close the park, 230 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: send inspectors to the park, and then when you see 231 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: the hotspots, take action with cal Fire or whoever's needed 232 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: to mitigate the situation. They did none of that. And 233 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: if you remember started by in Our Citizen and Gavin 234 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Newsom had first said that, well, the state wasn't aware 235 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: of the fire, and that was a lie. They were 236 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: aware of it within an hour. Secondly, that the fire 237 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: started on federal land, that's a lie as well. It 238 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: started on state land. State employees were aware of it, 239 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: and they sent employees down there to interfere with LA 240 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: fire department because they didn't want the milkvech plants to 241 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: be bulldozed. I know it sound like I'm a crazy person, 242 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you that's what happened. Roger Bailey, the 243 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: attorney for the Palisades homeowners, has confirmed that this is 244 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: really true. Newsimus says said it was climate change, not 245 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: climate change. Yes, they were aware of the fire, and 246 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: yes it started on state land, not federal land. The 247 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: state land that where the brush wasn't cleared. And so 248 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: what happened. We had twelve people died for the milkvetch plant. 249 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: We had sixty in sixty eight hundred and twenty two 250 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: structures burned because of the milkvetch plant, because the decisions 251 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: made by these unknown employees in the Parks Department. Now 252 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: this is before Karen Bass went off to Ghana. Did 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: she not talk to Kristin Crowley, the fire chief and 254 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: other fire officials, since there were warnings of the winds, 255 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: warnings of the fire danger. Now Karen Bass claimed that 256 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: she never heard that there were all these warnings, And 257 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: I think she's a liar. I've flat out don't believe 258 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: that she can assume me if she wants she's lying. 259 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: She had to know this. Why didn't she have a 260 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: meeting because of the extreme wind warnings, the fire warnings like, hey, 261 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: are we putting this thing out? If you're mayor and 262 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: you have you have fire danger in your wild lands 263 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: within the city limits, you should know about rekindling of fires. 264 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Basic knowledge you must have. So did you have the meeting? 265 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Was there was there a discussion? No? What about Kristin Crowley? 266 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: That's when you start looking around, Well, if this rekindles, 267 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: do we have water? Genisiniz, how's that reservoir? Oh? That's empty? Two? 268 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: And maybe you could have warned everybody in the Palisades that, look, 269 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: we don't have any water, and we don't have firefighters, 270 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: and we don't have fire trucks and the state won't 271 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: let us tend to the smoldering fire because of the 272 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: milk vetch plant. I mean, maybe somebody could have gotten 273 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: on the phone. Maybe this is where Karen Bass, if 274 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: she was doing her job, calls up Gavin News and says, hey, Gavin, 275 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: they won't let us put out the hot spot from 276 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: the Lockman fire because of a milk vetch plant. Could 277 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: you just say something about it? Of course, he might 278 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: have been into his second bottle of tequila, so he 279 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: might not have been able to respond. I I just 280 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. This is actually 281 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: what happened. This is really the world we're living in, 282 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up. 283 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am 284 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: six forty. 285 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: We're out every day from one until four o'clock. After 286 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: four o'clock John Cobet Show on demand on the iHeart app, 287 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: and you do want to listen to the two o'clock 288 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: hour where we talk with Roger Bailey about the new 289 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: bombshell stories of how it's text messages have been released, 290 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: depositions are being administered to state parks employees. And yeah, 291 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: they got in the way of the LA Fire Department 292 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: to save the milk fetch plant and that's why the 293 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: fire was able to rekindle on January first, Well, it's 294 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: January first fire rekindled on January seventh and became the 295 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Palace ex fire that did so much destruction. It's really true. Listen, 296 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: please to that two o'clock hour podcast. You know, I 297 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: saw this is the first thing I saw this morning 298 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: when I woke up. I get up about five thirty 299 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: in the morning, and I look at the Los Angeles Times, 300 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes they have something good this. Everybody loves the 301 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: county fairs, right, that's they go on all summer and 302 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of food, 303 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: it's rides, it's animals, it's games, it's it's supposed to 304 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: be great. It turns out that many county fairs in 305 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: California are hotbeds of corruption. In fact, the LA Times 306 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: did an investigation and found fraud, theft, and other issues 307 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: at twenty five of the seventy seven local fairs in 308 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: California racked with fraud and mismanagement. It looks like who 309 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: is ever managing many of these county fairs, they're stealing money. 310 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Let me give you an example. They started with and 311 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: then I'll talk about the ones in southern California here, 312 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: but they start with excuse me, Humboldt County. The former 313 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: bookkeeper of Humboldt County is doing federal court. She's pled 314 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: guilty to stealing four hundred and thirty thousand dollars from 315 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: the fair. Do you know where the police arrested her? 316 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: At a local casino, So she stole the money just 317 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: to blow it at a casino. There's a photo of her, 318 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: and she's got studs or staples, four of them in 319 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: her lips. She's got a she's got some kind of 320 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: stutter staple on her bottom lip at the corners of 321 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: her mouth, and one on the edge of her top lip. 322 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: The hell's that? And she stole four hundred and thirty 323 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: grand to blow it at a casino. Wow. Workers from 324 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: four Fares, according to the La Times, have been prosecuted 325 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: in the past few years for theft, bribery or embezzlement. 326 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: More than a million dollars stolen. A carnival company, tally Amusements, 327 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: was paid a half a million dollars by the San 328 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: Diego County Fair to settle a lawsuit that fair officials 329 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: had engaged in bid rigging when they were handing out 330 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: contracts to run rides and games on the Midway San 331 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: Diego County judge wrote that the evidence supports favoritism, fraud, 332 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: and corruption. That let's see what else here. Kern County 333 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. That ought found that the state and officials 334 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: at the current county fair had allowed gross mismanagement to 335 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: continue unchecked for years. In fact, there's a main story 336 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: which is very long, prints out to about fifteen pages. 337 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: But then they have a companion story in the La 338 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Times which breaks down county by county the basics of 339 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: each fraud. Let me go through some of these. There's 340 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: twenty five of them. I don't have time for that, 341 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: but I'll give you some of the better ones. Contra 342 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: Costa County Fair, ninety thousand dollars in cash stolen from 343 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: an employee as they were trying to deposit it at 344 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: an ATM account at two am. The president of the 345 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: fair's board then publicly questioned, why would anybody deposit money 346 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: in a remote place at two in the morning. Do 347 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you know what the Governor's office did. Newsom's office. They 348 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: removed the president because he spoke public about an active investigation. 349 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: He just said out loud what every normal person would say. 350 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: It's like, why are you going to an ATM way 351 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere with ninety thousand dollars 352 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: so because he said that he got bounced. Del Norte 353 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: County Fair twenty nineteen audit that fair officials spent more 354 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: than twelve hundred dollars improperly on alcohol, overspent on hotels, 355 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: and a manager employed a close family member. Humboldt County Fair. Oh, 356 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: that's the four hundred thousand dollars that the bookkeeper ran 357 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: to the casino Okay. Kerrent County Fair. OH. The former 358 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: maintenance supervisor at the current county fair facing criminal charges 359 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: for stealing scrap metal. Another state audit found that the 360 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Kerrent County the fair, chief executive, and board members enjoyed 361 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: lavish lobster dinners using state credit cards. Los Angeles County 362 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Fair twenty sixteen state audit found the fair had paid 363 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: its president more than a million dollars in salary a 364 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. Orange County Fair twenty nineteen state audit found 365 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: that fair officials did not report when an employee embezzled 366 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars, and Fair officials spent more than two 367 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on food and beverage. Without keeping track 368 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: of who ate the meals or what purpose they served. 369 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: That's a hungry group. In Orange County, Santa Clara County, 370 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: the fair's former director of marketing pleaded no contest to 371 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: taking forty thousand dollars in kickbacks after awarding a security contract. 372 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Statis Laus County twenty twenty three audit found that fair 373 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: officials improperly used state credit cards on lavish dinners for 374 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: the fair's board of directors, including Prime rib and Ribbi Stakes. 375 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: Ventura County Fair twenty twenty three, Four men pleaded guilty 376 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: to stealing more than five hundred dollars in cash from 377 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: a safe at the fair office. That included a man 378 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: who worked for a payment company At the fair twenty 379 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: twenty five. Yolo County, an audit found that fair officials 380 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: spent two hundred and twenty thousand dollars on their credit 381 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: cards without receipts, five thousand dollars in gifts gifts, twenty 382 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars in party supplies, and nearly one thousand 383 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: dollars in personal items, and I'm only giving you half 384 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: of them. Is everybody corrupt, right down to the people 385 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: who run county fairs. I mean really everybody, and there's 386 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: so much like Penny Anti stuff. Can't you buy a 387 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: steak and cook it at home? Can't you invite everybody 388 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: over for a barbecue in the backyard. What a bunch 389 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: of greed bags. It's not their money, it's tax money, 390 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: it's our money. Yeah, this is unbelievable. What's going on 391 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: in the state and has gone on for quite a while. 392 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: Got more coming up. 393 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 3: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am 394 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: six forty. 395 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: Ron every day one until four. 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The 404 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: psycho that killed Charlie Kirk was in court today for 405 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: the first time, and it's because his attorneys don't want 406 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: cameras to be used broadcasting the trial and he shows up. 407 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson's his name, and he shows up and apparently 408 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: throughout this court hearing, he's sitting there smirking and chuckling 409 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: and joking around. This is the guy who put the 410 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: bullet in Charlie Kirk provo Utah is wearing a blue 411 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: button down shirt and a tie, and his attorneys were 412 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: arguing that the media shouldn't be allowed to film his 413 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: hearings because it's gonna taint the jury. This would be, 414 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I guess the pre trial hearings. But the judge allowed 415 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: cameras in for a while, but more than two hours 416 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: were behind closed doors, and he looked calm Accord a 417 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: New York Post and even smiled as he appeared to 418 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: whisper joking comments to one of his lawyers before the 419 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: hearing began. Lawyer here, Stacy Visser, She's got to be 420 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: a nice woman, huh, mentioned representing this guy and wants 421 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: to keep the public from finding out how the trial goes. Yeah, 422 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: that's a good idea. She complained to the judge that 423 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: the media had violated his broadcasting order because I'll get this. 424 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Robinson was shown in shackles Apparently that's part of this 425 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: gag order where the media is not allowed to show 426 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson in shackles because that's gonna taint the jury. 427 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: Wells in shackles because he murdered a guy and there's 428 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: plenty of evidence, Like, there's no question he murdered a guy. 429 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I can take much of the jury. Well, 430 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've got a lot of people listening 431 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: on the podcast. But uh so he sat there, and 432 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: you can you can. Can you imagine if you were 433 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: falsely accused of murdering Charlie Kirk of all people, and 434 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: the death penalty is possible here. Plus you know it's 435 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: caused a lot of grief across across the whole country, 436 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: and you're being you're being wrongfully accused. What would you 437 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: be doing, huh, screaming, yelling, jumping up and down, waving 438 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: your arms. Instead, he's sitting there, calmly, chuckling and laughing. 439 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: To me, that's always the telltale sign of guy's guilty 440 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: when he's got no angry, upset reaction to being accused 441 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: of murder. Where the death penalty is on the case 442 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: is on the line, on top of it all and 443 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: he's just saying, eh, this is cool. See, he killed 444 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: Kirk for a cause. He was angry over Kirk's transgender comments. 445 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: He was the guy who had the furry as a 446 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend or whatever the hell it is, the furry friend, right, 447 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: So he's got a furry friend. He's upset that Kirk 448 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: was making negative comments about accepting transgenders, and so he 449 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: kills Kirk. And so he thinks he's done a good thing. 450 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: He's like that other nutcase Luigi Mangioni in New York 451 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: City who killed the healthcare executive. They're proud of what 452 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: they did. They're happy that they did it. They felt 453 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: it needed to be done to settle injustice in the world. 454 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: So he's not angry and out right, but he's got 455 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: the dopey attorney there, right Stacy Visser, and her big 456 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: issue was like, well, we don't want the public to 457 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: see this. We don't want him shackled. I don't know, 458 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: you murdered somebody, You're gonna get shackled. This is Stacy 459 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: Visser says, it's our understanding that the shackles are visible. 460 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: And some audio from the council table was heard. There's 461 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: been filming of computers and materials on the council's desk. 462 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: That's entirely inappropriate. I think the bullet in the neck 463 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: was inappropriate. I don't know about filming some computer screens. 464 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: Just don't you feel like you're insane. It's hard not 465 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: to feel that way. Conway is coming up next, and 466 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow at one o'clock. 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